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August 03, 2023

Election 2024 - Two Legal Cases And One Winner

The opening of the 2024 election season was launched this week with the House Oversight Committee getting testimony from Hunter Biden's business partner Devon Archer over several documents related to Burisma. The following day confirmed this with the opening of another indictment against Donald Trump.

The timeline proves that these were not independent events.

Andrew Clark @AndrewHClark - 21:15 UTC · Aug 2, 2023

This timeline is actually incredible. I mean come on.

3/17 - Hunter admits laptop
3/18 - Trump indictment news

6/8 - FBI doc alleges Biden bribe
6/9 - Trump indicted

7/26 - Hunter plea deal collapses
7/27 - Trump indicted

7/31 - Devon Archer testifies
8/1 - Trump indicted

The election strategy of the Biden administration and the Democratic party seems to be to deprive Donald Trump of the time and means to go stumping across the country. That however is likely to fail.

As the Economist writes:

The multiplying felony counts against him—78 so far, with more probably coming—are consuming his campaign funds, and Democrats hope they will distract him from the campaign trail. This is wishful thinking. In 2024 the Trump trials will be the trail. They will focus attention on him and his message of fearless challenge in the face of persecution.

I have thumbed through the latest indictment, three counts of 'conspiracy and one of 'obstruction', and find it somewhat unconvincing.

While stating that Trump definitely lied a lot, the indictment admits that lying is generally free speech and a First Amendment right. But lying while working together with others for some 'nefarious' purpose is, independent of the outcome, a 'conspiracy'. I doubt that the current Supreme Court, or even a majority of the public, will largely agree with that.

One can be sure that Trump's defense will make the First Amendment point again and again. The NY Times, under a ludicrous headline, finds the same:

Trump Election Charges Set Up Clash of Lies Versus Free Speech

Already, Mr. Trump’s lawyers and allies are setting out the early stages of a legal strategy to counter the accusations, saying that Mr. Trump’s First Amendment rights are under attack. They say Mr. Trump had every right to express views about election fraud that they say he believed, and still believes, to be true, and that the actions he took or proposed after the election were based on legal advice.
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Legal experts were skeptical about the strength of those claims as a defense. They pointed out that the indictment said on its second page that all Americans had the right to say what they wanted about the election — even if it was false. But, the indictment asserts, it is illegal to use those false claims to engage in criminal conduct, the experts said.

Trump's lawyers will further argue that there was no nefarious intent behind what Trump, and the lawyers advising him, were doing. They just wanted to make sure that the outcome of the election process would install the person as president who they sincerely thought had won the election.

It is probably not the best argument to make but a jury might fall for it.

In my view the case against Joe Biden, which may end up with his impeachment, is a much stronger one.

Devon Archer, the business partner of Hunter Biden, has said in testimony and interviews that Joe Biden was deeply involved in getting foreign companies to hire the Biden/Archer influence peddling team. Biden senior called into conferences that the Biden/Archer team had with customers. He was put on speakerphone to impress the attendee. Joe Biden also attended diners with Biden/Archer and their business partners. Joe Biden was the brand that was used to land big money deals. What was his share in these deals?

That Biden's Justice Department has done its best to run cover for the Biden clan is only adding to the bad light this all shines on Biden.

As Patrick Lawrence remarks:

The Hunter Biden affair, growing like a grotesque weed as we speak, could now prove to be Biden’s greatest vulnerability—and so the Democratic Party’s. The House Oversight Committee is looking at documents directly implicating the president in bribery schemes that brought the Biden family $17 million during Joe’s time as Obama’s veep. A federal judge in Delaware has thrown back Hunter’s disgraceful plea bargain, rejecting the preposterous provision that the president’s son be immune from all future findings of corruption. “The blanket shield against any other charges based on past misconduct was so inappropriate,” Michael Goodwin wrote in the New York Post over the weekend, “that the only possible explanation is that the aim was to shut down the probe of the family permanently.”

No, they are not insentient. They are desperate.

There are, finally, the Biden Justice Department under Merrick Garland and the FBI under Christopher Wray. The latter, continuing the practice during the Russiagate years, has, open and shut, turned the agency into a politicized instrument at the Democratic Party’s disposal, most recently by withholding for several years documents exposing Joe Biden’s direct involvement in Hunter’s influence-peddling schemes. Anyone who does not recognize the political motives of Garland’s campaign to get Donald Trump jailed and, on the other side, his direction of the Hunter Biden plea deal, is reading too many Gail Collins columns.

Look at this mess. A senile president—the physicians call Biden’s condition “neurocognitive disorder,” but “senile” or “demented” is what they mean—is standing for reelection with a wasteful proxy war failing, nothing much to show for himself at home, mounting evidence of epic-scale personal corruption, institutional failure of the same magnitude: There is only one way to explain this shambles: Every one of these crises traces back to the Democratic Party’s obsession with taking and holding power more or less indefinitely to suit its hubristic, end-of-history “narrative” of righteous liberal triumph.

How will that look to the voters?

On the one side we have a case which shows the deep corruption of 'the big guy' and his family who are supported by the deep state they control.

On the other side we have the underdog who thought he was doing the right thing but is now indicted by the deep state for, at that time,  saying so.

The media will shine the light on both cases. Each time they will mention Trump it will, independent of what they write about him, be positive for him by making the case of the lone guy who gets unfairly prosecuted by the deep state.

Each time the Biden case will be mentioned it will remind the public of Biden's corrupt dealings.

Proceed through that for sixteen month and the outcome is assured.

As much as I dislike Donald Trump, I see no way, aside from criminal manipulation, Joe Biden can take to win this thing.

Posted by b on August 3, 2023 at 14:11 UTC | Permalink

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but, the indictment alleges that Trump DIDN'T believe the election was stolen. They say they have him saying as much

Posted by: scottindallas | Aug 3 2023 14:20 utc | 1

Thanks b. This was a fair and balanced argument.

My wish and hope is Bobby will win and become president.

Posted by: Morongobill | Aug 3 2023 14:22 utc | 2

Some suggest all this legal wrangling against Trump is really a plot. Because the Democrats believe the more indictments they can scrape up the more the GOP base will rally around him. They believe they can easily beat Trump in 2024. Look at DeSantis. His support seems to be sinking like a stone.

Posted by: ronmac | Aug 3 2023 14:22 utc | 3

Any idea how much of Ukraine the Biden crime family owns via Bursima and the like? It’s looking more and more to me like the family are using the US(and European) taxpayers to fund the defence of their private property. I guess it also happened when Kings had divine rights?

Posted by: Guy L’Estrange | Aug 3 2023 14:24 utc | 4

Bingo b.

Posted by: Antonym | Aug 3 2023 14:25 utc | 5

Didnt Hillary and democrats always say Trump never won in 2016 but it was all Russian interference? Didnt that all turn out to be a hoax?? Id day thats lying with nefarious motives.

When id Hillary getting indicted?

Posted by: Comandante | Aug 3 2023 14:27 utc | 6

Speaking as a Constitutional lawyer, this indictment is total nonsense and a blot on the country..Politicians have been contesting elections as long as there have been elections, and some have been overturned..Obama got into his first "elected" position by getting a court to disqualify his more popular opponent's (a popular civil rights hero)nominating petitions struck down because of allegedly fraudulent signatures....

Posted by: pyrrhus | Aug 3 2023 14:30 utc | 7

Great analysis as always, b! Fitting end to the empire that two senile criminals fight over who gets to drive the country to destruction. It's hard to decide who will run the US into a wall faster, but the GOP at least have the sense to see Russia as a potential ally. The Dems still have Cold War blinders and are pushing Russia closer to China. This is well and good (other than the tragic mass murder of regular Russians and Ukrainians), as the PRC will be in a better position to put the US in its place. I'm just enjoying the show of America's death throes and hoping it doesn't end in nuclear war.

Death to America

Posted by: LeninLives | Aug 3 2023 14:31 utc | 8

The aftermath of Biden's son's rental experience in Venice has been revealed, and it's not a pleasant sight. The rented house, occupied by Hunter Biden and his wife Melissa for six months, was left in complete disarray, according to the Daily Mail.

The damage report is quite disheartening. The couple allegedly trashed the house, with even the stereo system being irreparably destroyed. Craftsmen called in to fix the equipment were forced to refuse as it was beyond repair. Not to mention, the house was found to be in a dirty state by workers.

Surprisingly, the owner of the house refrained from suing Biden for the rent debt. Instead, shortly after their departure, the owner took the initiative to make repairs and subsequently sold the villa.

This incident raises questions about responsibility and accountability when it comes to rented properties and the importance of maintaining respect for the spaces we inhabit.

Source: Daily Mail

https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1687108859905941504

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2023 14:36 utc | 9

Posted by: Comandante | Aug 3 2023 14:27 utc | 6

Didnt Hillary and democrats always say Trump never won in 2016 but it was all Russian interference? Didnt that all turn out to be a hoax?? Id day thats lying with nefarious motives.

When id Hillary getting indicted?

This is exactly my thoughts on this. There was a campaign based on lies, which they knew were lies, to delegitimize Trump after the 2016 election. Russiagate has been totally discredited. This campaign was an order of magnitude greater that what they are now accusing Trump of doing. It's mindboggling that they are actually going ahead with this case. If you're charging Trump with this, then charge Hilary and all her accomplices, including those in the media.

Posted by: bachac | Aug 3 2023 14:46 utc | 10

Are we so simple minded that were asked to pick between these two options ?
One a'vegtable' and one a moraly bankrupt racist pig with lipstick on. Thats the choice ? A or b.
A bit like Ukraine, awhile ago i stated what we see in Ukraine now is the tenplate for what the same elites will do in the US. And here we go...
Pick one side and jump in the muddy trench, start killing each over.
That'l be the working class the trendys will look on and hold their noses feeling superior.
Well maybe not this time.
Multipolarity is an unstopable force now and its about to hit America like a hurricane.
Im glad.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 3 2023 14:48 utc | 11

Might this not be pure Blackmail? Might Zelensky not have some knowledge into the Epstein tape contents? Might he be Blackmailing the entire Democratic party!

Posted by: Cocoliso | Aug 3 2023 14:53 utc | 12

In the United States, you can't speak your mind, not even if you are billionaire and President at the same time.

The loser in the Trump indictment is the US Justice Dept.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 3 2023 14:53 utc | 13

Why should Trump be allowed to use campaign funds to pay his personal legal bills? Any funds so used should be counted as income and he should pay taxes on them. Campaign funds are not considered taxable income (though they should be), but if someone pays your legal bills, that's generally considered taxable income. The short fingered vulgarian strikes again.

Which makes me wonder what Billmon would think of what has become of this site. Methinks he'd have something witty and caustic to say about Trump apologia. Irony abounds.

Posted by: William Verick | Aug 3 2023 14:55 utc | 14

Alternatively, the two wings of the corporate party could select a couple of contenders that aren't geriatric grifters. It's too much to expect that the two political parties would actually be separate and offer the American public a real choice.

Posted by: Jeff Harrison | Aug 3 2023 14:56 utc | 15

Just throw the whole sordid mess, the election and the legal system, under the bus.

Posted by: too scents | Aug 3 2023 14:56 utc | 16

Read Kim Dot Com's summary on Twitter.

A private equity model of corruption, using mostly foreign capital and firms, which benefited from insider political knowledge from the Bidens. This allowed the Bidens to make much more money, because there is only so much Hunter could make as a consultant directly for firms like Burisma without attracting attention. The Bidens want to be rich like the Clintons and Obamas. Biden himself was present in the background to assure private investors that knowledge and prospects were safe. I'm not exactly sure how the Bidens made money off this but they must hold shares in these operations and profits and fees held in foreign bank accounts held by these firms in which foreign capital was directed.

Likely many Democrats are involved now in similar operations.

This is what Russiagate and impeachment over Ukraine were meant to cover up.

So, US imperial interests and personal corruption and get-rich schemes by one faction of the state are intertwined, with some state institutions (DOJ, FBI) being used to cover up the whole operation.

Trump could expose this because he was rich already and didn't need to use his office to get richer.

Anyhow reas Kim Dot Com's summary.


Posted by: Ringo | Aug 3 2023 14:57 utc | 17

How will that look to the voters?
It is not the votes that count, but who count the votes.

Besides, the system will not change through voting, so who cares. There has to be some kind of uprising to make real change.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 3 2023 15:01 utc | 18

the Jan 6 2021 protest was about election fraud, that the neocon plant vice president pence was going to abide!

now, the neocon blob is using the so called justice tool to assure the next election is run like in a banana republic….

AGAIN.

the usa is no more

Posted by: paddy | Aug 3 2023 15:07 utc | 19

Heads you win, Tails we lose. Shit canning primaries and debates and discussion, nothing but a he said/she said dust up between the two right wings feathering their offshore nest eggs while barely pretending anything else matters. To credit "the media" with the ability or intention to all of a sudden start reporting the big picture or significant details? You must not be from around here.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 3 2023 15:12 utc | 20

That crawling filth that owns the Democratic Party steals primaries. They have some difficulties doing that in the general, but it is a fait accompli that the National Security State will have it's choice puppet anointed when the show is over. And no recourse to the victims because its just a goddamn piece of paper.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 3 2023 15:17 utc | 21

Re: Posted by: paddy | Aug 3 2023 15:07 utc | 20

Agreed. The “paradigm” circus hardly matters when ALL of it is corrupt to the core.
The Judicial Branch was the last to be corrupted & fall, but fall it did, at least 2 or more, decades ago. Hardly matters what civilian bobble-head face sits at resolute desk, there’s only one way to purge and clean a deeply corroded instrument.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 3 2023 15:21 utc | 22

PBS Newshour ran a 22 minute top-to-bottom roundup of the Trump indictments on their August 2 edition. The host interviewed Trump's defense attorney, John Lauro who, despite numerous interruptions from the host, was VERY confident that he can have the cases laughed out of court and have Trump aquitted.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 3 2023 15:23 utc | 23

They are claiming that you have no right to free speech if it leads to freedom of assembly and peaceful protest. (Unless you are Roy Epps.)
This is more than an attack on Trump. This is an attack on the Bill of Rights.

For the last 6 years, they have used their false claims of a stolen election (2016) to turn Americans against the Bill of Rights. "You have the right of free speech, but not if someone is offended by it".
What kind of bs is that? The kind they feed to the feeble minded, especially the younger generation who have been convinced that their right to not be offended trumps others' rights to speak.

You can still shamelessly lie about the 2016 election, but they are censoring and banning people who point out the obvious rigging of the 2020 election.
They have been censoring the media, especially social media, since 2017, when Zuckerberg, Dorsey, et. al., were hauled in front of Congress to be openly threatened, using the 2016 election results as their rationale.
Their claim is that allowing Americans to see information that makes them vote against their favored candidates, is "interfering" with elections. They claim that the Clinton and Podesta emails turned Americans away from Clinton, so censorship is necessary.
That led to the censoring of Hunter's laptop in 2020. They lied about it, but no one is being prosecuted for those lies.

Then, in 2021, they criminalized political dissent, arresting people who went to Wash. DC to peacefully protest the election, as was their right, and throwing them into jail. Some are still held without a trial, over 2 years later, another attack on the Bill of Rights and the right to a speedy trial.

So Julian Assange sits in a London dungeon, and Jan. 6th protesters sit in the Wash. DC jail.

Rioters burned Washington, DC. in the summer of 2020, including a historic church across from the White House. When Trump went to the church the next day to hold up a Bible, he was trashed by the media, who claimed that the park was cleared so that he could walk across.
So the rioters had a right to riot, but protesters had no right to walk through the Capitol. There were some rioters at the Capitol on Jan. 6th also, but as far as I know, they were not arrested, just the political opponents of the Democrats were.

The double standards and hypocrisy should shock the conscience of every American, but too many are fine with using repression and lawfare against their political opponents. These are the same people that are happy that Julian Assange is being unjustly held and torture, because they blame him for the 2016 election.

And that is where we are today, living in a dystopian, totalitarian, crumbling empire, that murders abroad and represses at home, with the support of half the population.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 3 2023 15:25 utc | 24

A question.

Biden is completely and thoroughly corrupt and lacking cognitive abilities to the extent even CNN, BBC and other hegemon outlets can't hide it anymore. Which is unprecedentedly bad. Why is the DNC party clinging on to Biden being the next president candidate tooth and nail?

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2023 15:28 utc | 25

As much as I dislike Donald Trump, I see no way, aside from criminal manipulation, Joe Biden can take to win this thing."

Criminal manipulation it will be. Whether he is saying it in earnest or not, Trump has set himself against the war on Russia in Ukraine. They need a brain dead corpse to ensure the effort to destroy Russia keeps going. RFK Jr, same deal.

After 911 it was discovered the intelligence agencies had "back doors" to a number of private communications companies, then Snowden showed us more on that topic. All voting machines can be manipulated, unlike paper ballots. If the intelligence agencies don't have the ability to do that, I'd be shocked.

Look at the charges. Regardless of their talk of free speech, everyone knows the crime is questioning an election. Would anyone dare do that after seeing trump ruined for doing so?

Yes, it hasn't been proven intelligence can fix our elections yet, but with the media nearly completely under Dem control, nobody is even trying to find out and if someone did find evidence it would go unreported and ignored just like Joe's many instances of extreme corruption.

Every citizen could vote for trump or RFK in 2024 and they'd still lose. Again, there is no democracy under imperialism not even a bullshit choice between two types of vanilla anymore.

Its a bit shocking for citizens of the imperialist nations that this is the case and for good reason. Previously the intelligence agencies would only carry out this type of manipulation replete with psyops and efforts to foment tribal warfare in other poorer countries that had some resources or geostrategic positioning the RC wanted to control. But those days are over.

Since at least 2016 they are using those methods in the US itself.

We wage slaves are on our own. We have no government, yet. We build a parallel government to beat out the government of the perverted, decayed bourgeoisie or were getting more of the same: endless war, an economy that serves billionaires primarily and even further attacks on the few rights we have left.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 3 2023 15:31 utc | 26

@Mark2 | Aug 3 2023 14:48 utc | 11

Why should workers vote? Republicans are corporate. Democrats are corporate. Our government is one that Mussolini would have been proud of. For workers to vote in an election where every vote is a vote for capitalism is, in fact, to disenfranchise ourselves as workers. A vote is only meaningful if it can be cast for what the voter really wants and needs. What voters need is an end to unemployment, a restoration and increased investment in health, education, public services and the infrastructure. We need the wealth, which we create, to be invested in the nation's future, that future being the capacity of workers to use their skill and ingenuity to provide a wholesome life for themselves, their children and their children's children. Is it conceivable that any of the corporate stooges can give us that? If it is, then why haven't they done so?

The "choice" between different capitalist parties is not worth contemplating. None of them offer a viable future. What all the parties are committed to is a drive to war, inevitable under capitalism. The choice being offered is would you rather die horribly and pointlessly with a Biden, Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan or Trump cowering in a bunker below the Pentagon? Whichever way you vote, you are voting for war.

Let's do what others did - we say to hell with that phony and fatal choice. Let's choose instead to vote for peace by boycotting capitalism's voting booths (many do this already), which are simply the first recruiting centers for WWIII. At the same time, in voting for peace and not war by repudiating capitalist elections, we will be voting for full employment not mass unemployment, for an end to the destruction of industry and a beginning of self-reliant progress for the good of the nation. Let's start harnessing workers' natural and honorable detestation of war to our equally natural hatred of exploitation in a mighty socialist crusade that will engulf the enemies of peace who rule us.

Posted by: zeke2u | Aug 3 2023 15:33 utc | 27

Both candidates will continue to lead the US to self-destruction. Opponents of the hegemon who want the war complex destroyed and the empire ruined can take solace in knowing whomever wins in 2024 will preside over a failing state. Although the flailing to maintain national supremacy performed by either candidate will create misery for domestic and foreign working class peoples, the outcome from failure of US capitalism will eventually be a boon to humankind.

Posted by: Wilikins | Aug 3 2023 15:35 utc | 28

Death to America

Posted by: LeninLives | Aug 3 2023 14:31 utc | 8

Death to the ruling class of America, you idiot!

Lenin would never approach a nation as an undifferentiated mass. America like every country is divided between a tiny layer of billionaires and a mass of workers. Pick a side and read a book or two before using the name of Lenin.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 3 2023 15:36 utc | 29

Thanks for the perspective b. Fwiw I agree. I really do wish u didnt have to add the last paragraph and understand why. Thanks agaim.

@11mark2. "One a'vegtable' and one a moraly bankrupt racist pig with lipstick on"

Considering the FACT that they are both moraly bankrupt racist pig with lipstick on I see no choice in what u describe. What r u on about here? TDS is my guess. Possibly u prefer moraly bankrupt racist pig with lipstick on as long as they are blue moraly bankrupt racist pig with lipstick on?

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 3 2023 15:42 utc | 30

I like most of what I read here. But I have exception in this case. I'm not a fan of Biden. But for me political patronage for his jacked up son is nothing compared to what the psychotic degenerate that plotted and schemed with his equally degenerate lawyers to change by manipulation. Rises to a stratospheric level in comparison. It's worth the effort and the money to castrate him politically for good.

Posted by: Rewfew | Aug 3 2023 15:48 utc | 31

Ah, b… this is gold, upon gold, with a golden lining. With plenty more in the comments. Thanks, everyone. Either way, I don’t see how this gets resolved without resorting to fisticuffs.

FWIW, Canadian satire news site’s take on Trump: Being held accountable by federal government clear proof that Trump is not a real billionaire

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2022/08/being-held-accountable-by-federal-government-clear-proof-that-trump-is-not-a-real-billionaire/

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 3 2023 15:51 utc | 32

Of course, it is all unconvincing. The Empire of Lies produces nothing with integrity.

In 2016, fighting for the nomination early in the year, Republicans focused all of their fire on Trump, to the point they deprived their own establishment candidates of the oxygen necessary to compete. Trump reveled in all of the controversy. In the public sphere, it is better to be hated than to not be talked about at all.

Ironically, none of it will matter. I'm not for democracy; even if I was, what America calls democracy is farcical. Between now and election day, the deep state will find all manner of excuses to subvert another election. No one saw COVID coming in late 2018, and one could argue, it dramatically transformed the West. I wouldn't be surprised if the Biden regime starts a hot war with Russia to influence and give control over domestic dissent necessary to have a substantive electoral performance.

These psychopaths crave power and will do anything to hold onto it.

Conversely, we can count on Trump doing NOTHING to bad actors if he wins. He's more bark than bite. Which, one could argue, is the American way. Get loud and strut around impotently lecturing everyone.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2023 15:53 utc | 33

Andrew Clark never heard of post-hoc reasoning...

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Aug 3 2023 16:00 utc | 34

Nothing will change. No consequence since they stole the last elections - DOJ and media are fully complicit. And the mail-in ballots-fraud WILL continue. Establishment stays in power both ways. As the Republicans are the same bunch of crooks, frauds and liars. Welcome to 400 more years of Obama.

Posted by: BobBob | Aug 3 2023 16:02 utc | 35

It does not matter.

Trump will be no better second time around.

It was Trump who murdered Soleimani, who recognised Jerusalem as the "capital" of zionistan, who began arming Azov, and who had Assange arrested.

It does not matter if Trump is re selected.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 3 2023 16:04 utc | 36

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 3 2023 15:36 utc | 29
> America like every country is divided between a tiny layer of billionaires and a mass of workers.

And those workers they all want to become billionaires. Or at least millionaires. To join the club.
They have no issue with the system, it is only that they are not winning. Yet. But the success is just around the corner. The power of dreams...

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 3 2023 16:14 utc | 37

a short and to the point take on both cases:

As I wrote when the “Hunter Biden laptop” story broke the month before the 2020 presidential election:

“Everyone who might care one way or another knew years ago that Biden the younger got a sweetheart job with Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, because Biden the elder was vice-president …. Everyone who might care one way or another also knew years ago the Joe Biden used his position as vice-president to intervene in Ukraine’s internal affairs, pressuring Kiev to fire a prosecutor who had investigated Burisma, because Biden bragged about doing so on camera.”

Trump’s voters didn’t care about his hush money payments to Stormy Daniels when they voted in 2016, or about his first impeachment when they voted in 2020. Nor do they care about his growing stack of criminal indictments now.

Biden’s voters didn’t care about his influence-peddling when they voted in 2020. Nor is their discomfort level visibly increasing at the moment.

the western neoliberal system is ossified to the point of no return. all its elections are slap fights at the special olympics. they can't argue over actual sh_t that matters because - other than social dumbness like guys in dresses and forcing women to have rape babies - they agree on everything that matters (which equals anything that pleases the Invisible Hand of the Mammon Market.)

Posted by: the pair | Aug 3 2023 16:15 utc | 38

Corrupt government combined with corrupt major media make attaining anything just extremely difficult. The Rs in the House are seen as moving too slow on ousting a clearly corrupt, inept POTUS with more than enough evidence already in the public domain to impeach--and if the Senate were honest--convict and remove from office. But there are also a great many other fish to fry in the FBI and Justice/AG office. The Rs have so many potential targets we ought to be hearing of several every week. R inaction can be explained by Deep State complicity. Crooke offers us what appears to be the game, "The ‘Scandal Implosion’ Stratagem: Will It Work for Ukraine?" and will it work for the Bidens? Again, here's the gist of this plot:

Jonathan Turley, a recognized legal scholar and Professor at Georgetown, who has written extensively in areas ranging from constitutional law to legal theory, draws attention to: “the last ditch effort of the members of Congress and the media to get the public to just ‘move on’ from the Biden corruption scandal”. The message, he writes, “is clear … Everybody needs to back off! … [However] as evidence and public interest increase, it is a bit late for spin or shiny objects”.

“This week, the scandal is likely to be even more serious for the Bidens and the country. The media is increasingly taking on the appearance of Leslie Nielsen in Naked Gun yelling that there is “nothing to see here” in front of a virtual apocalyptic scene of fire and destruction.”

What is the link to Ukraine? Well, a year ago, Professor Turley wrote that the political and media establishment would likely use a ‘scandal implosion’ approach to the corruption allegations as the evidence mounted. There would be an attempt to ‘cap off’ the scandal with Turley suggesting that the Justice Department would secure a ‘light plea’ by Hunter Biden on a couple of tax counts, with little or no jail time.

Well, that’s exactly what has occurred one year later. Then came the predicted ‘scandal implosion’: Hunter pleaded guilty to having delayed due tax payments – to a chorus of House members and the media shrugging off all other corruption allegations, and firmly declaring the scandal ‘closed’, together with the demand to “move on”. Turley notes however, “the media’s desire to “move on” from the scandal is reaching an almost frantic level, as millions in foreign payments and dozens of corporate shell companies are revealed – and incriminating emails are released”.

It is not clear that the stratagem will work. It is already in trouble.

The key elements to the ‘implosion stratagem’ are revealed as outright, unflinching denial that there is any ‘problem’ at all, and an obstinate refusal to concede even a scintilla to the notion of there being any type of failure. No need to look in the mirror.

In his latest chat with Judge Napolitano, Crooke elaborated on the plot in response to clips played of Biden and Sullivan as it relates to Ukraine but emphasizing it's all about sticking to the Narrative about the Biden scandal and Ukraine. And that's what b displayed for us in his brief timeline as all potential narrative busting news gets rolled under the carpet ASAP.

As for the POTUS election process, it's 100% broken as either party can place whomever they choose to be their nominee, public input/desire/choice be damned--the only restraint being the Constitutional qualifications for age and citizenship.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 3 2023 16:23 utc | 39

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 3 2023 16:04 utc | 36
> It does not matter if Trump is re selected.
For foreign policy perhaps not, but for domestic policy it will matter, and that is what Americans mostly care about.

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 3 2023 16:24 utc | 40

I’m a senior citizen who despises both creatures.

Trump stiffed contractors while running his business - for that alone he should have been rejected by much of his base- and Trump U was a con. How many times did he declare bankruptcy? Geez, he couldn’t even run a successful casino. His daughter and SIL handily mined their unpaid WH “advisor” positions to prop up failing business deals. Saudi Arabia, home of most of the 9-11 players, bailed them out.

Biden ran the hearings that inflicted Clarence Thomas on the country. You know, the black man married to a white woman who wants to revisit settled law protecting interracial marriage. Biden refused to call witnesses confirming Anita Hill’s allegations. Biden’s the water boy for Citibank and the rapacious financial sector ( as were the Clintons, but I digress). Ukraine is his playground. Hunter is no more or no less corrupt than his father, Trump, or the Trump spawn.

These two yahoos are the best we can do?

Posted by: Sick and tired | Aug 3 2023 16:25 utc | 41

@18 There has to be some kind of uprising to make real change.

Well, some retired jarhead just suggested bringing back the draft. Doing that could spark the required uprising.

Posted by: Fred777 | Aug 3 2023 16:26 utc | 42

@Fred777 | Aug 3 2023 16:26 utc | 41

Well, some retired jarhead just suggested bringing back the draft. Doing that could spark the required uprising.

I don't think so.

A man in Ukraine hit a military commissar with a stone in the head to save a friend from mobilization.
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/74242

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 3 2023 16:33 utc | 43

To suggest that disputing an election outcome is a crime is—a crime. To suggest that the 2020 election wasn’t fraudulent is a bigger crime. America is now 1930s Germany. Expect the same results.

Posted by: Robert Italia | Aug 3 2023 16:34 utc | 44

@ 6 re Clinton indictment

Analysts claim that not only do Jake Sullivan, Victoria Nuland Kagan and Antony Blinken work for Hillary Clinton, but also VP Kamala Harris. “She’s her girl” one of them said. Hillary is probably more untouchable than the big guy.

Although I resolved to not participate in the election charades here again as they have been overtly corrupt since 2000, and more earlier too, despite my distaste for Drumpf, I applaud his audacity to call out the system. This is a something many mericans support. The harsher he is punished, the more popular he will become.

JFK jr also has the heart of the merican peeps but the system is too corrupt to let him in unless they can use him

Posted by: suzan | Aug 3 2023 16:36 utc | 45

@Fred777 | Aug 3 2023 16:26 utc | 41

❗️🇺🇸🏴‍☠️ Washington has passed a bill allowing children to legally be taken from their parents if their parents don't consent to their gender transition
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/74248

Where is your uprising?

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 3 2023 16:37 utc | 46

From the looks of the video he didn’t hit him hard enough. Still a bright spot in 404.

Posted by: Fred777 | Aug 3 2023 16:40 utc | 47

"..Why is the DNC party clinging on to Biden being the next president candidate tooth and nail?"
unimperator@25
Because there is more than a year until Labour Day 2024. So it is still early in electoral terms.

Biden is not going to run but his withdrawal is likely, if possible, to be postponed until the sting has been taken out of Primary contenders. At that point he will step aside and the oligarchs' choice will be installed. That will either be one of the Party leaders- someone who can claim that s/he only refrained from running out of loyalty to and respect for Biden. Or a token to represent all that's best about America, like Bud Light.

We should keep an eye on Kamala as she positions herself for the, to my mind, almost certain impeachment or resignation of the Big Guy.
Of course the very best outcome, for the cause of decency, would be for Biden to survive, run and win again.

Trump is sleazy and dangerous but he's not in the same league as the Bidens.
As has long been understood in America, Congress is the perfect place for criminal activity from insider trading and misappropriation of campaign funds to influence peddling and contract kickbacks. And Biden has been in and over Congress for almost half a century. Trump wouldn't have lasted a term there- apart from everything it would have bored him senseless.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 3 2023 16:44 utc | 48

Hillary Clinton

Posted by: suzan | Aug 3 2023 16:36 utc | 44

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Its absolutely bizarre that the Clinton Justice Dept. successfully prosecuted Microsoft for antitrust.

It boggles.

Posted by: too scents | Aug 3 2023 16:45 utc | 49

And those workers they all want to become billionaires. Or at least millionaires. To join the club.
They have no issue with the system, it is only that they are not winning. Yet. But the success is just around the corner. The power of dreams...

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 3 2023 16:14 utc | 37

You don't speak for workers, sadsack. Get out of your basement and chit chat a little with those workers. Again, unless you live in Aspen, everyone around you is a worker.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 3 2023 16:51 utc | 50

Putinverstehers of the world, let us rally around the cause of Donald Trump!

Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Aug 3 2023 16:59 utc | 51

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 3 2023 16:51 utc | 49

#########

He's not far wrong. Very few people have concerns beyond the material world or their immediate self-satisfaction.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2023 17:02 utc | 52

There is only one solution: Cornel West and any libertarian or green running in local races. The 2 party oligopoly must be destroyed.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Aug 3 2023 17:14 utc | 53

Unless there's evidence of influence peddling by Biden (did Burisma Holdings get any sweet deals from the US government because of Biden's intervention? What are the concrete allegations of impropriety here?), I don't think the Hunter Biden investigation will play much of a role except for people who are already in the conservative camp. Hunter Biden is not the one running for president.

Joe will probably lose if there's a recession before the next election and congress doesn't act quickly to inject stimulus spending into the economy (and since spending bills have to originate in the GOP controlled House, well, hey... big political stand off looming over the horizon). But this also depends on how the GOP plays it: if they continue to offer nothing but a culture war against sexual and racial minorities, and the Democrats gesture vaguely at New Deal style employment and infrastructure programs, I think the GOP could be caught off guard next November and find itself in control of no part of the federal government besides the conservative majority of justices on the Supreme Court.

Biden may well surprise us. It surprised me in 2020, as a Bernie acolyte, that Biden didn't blow it. But Trump was as unpopular of an incumbent as Biden is now. What a shit show of an election 2024 is going to be.

Posted by: fnord | Aug 3 2023 17:20 utc | 54

We should keep an eye on Kamala as she positions herself for the, to my mind, almost certain impeachment or resignation of the Big Guy.
Of course the very best outcome, for the cause of decency, would be for Biden to survive, run and win again.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 3 2023 16:44 utc | 47

They know Kamala cannot win, against about anybody. They need to figure out a way to get someone like Newsom in instead of her without looking like they are shoving the female POC aside. Not good for the brand.

Trump did the one thing you cannot do, which is challenge the existing order. You can be corrupt and commit war crimes, but if you go challenge the established norms, that cannot be tolerated. If Trump wasn't a piece of crap wanna-be fascist I might have some sympathy.

Posted by: JMW | Aug 3 2023 17:30 utc | 55

I feel bad for Trump.
But, hey, a lot of people dont get to be president.
And it's better than the treatment that Kennedy got.

But what does this say about the US, which I have impression is more democratic than Canada, Australia, UK, or EU countries (what a sorry bunch).
Funny, there was a little dust-up a few months back when a reporter noted that it appears that Biden aspires to be a dictator.
Then things got a little quite, but I am not sure that's a good sign.
1) There are no democracies in reality.
2) A country in trouble will do what it has to to survive - decalre default, go to war, jail people, confiscate property, assassinate leaders - whatever.
10 year treasuries are at 4.2% and ticking

Posted by: jared | Aug 3 2023 17:34 utc | 56

very good analysis b! thank you!

Posted by: migueljose | Aug 3 2023 17:37 utc | 57

In addition to his failings listed above, I would also like to add Biden's manifest sexual deviancy. It's pretty obvious the man is a pedophile.

Posted by: Monos | Aug 3 2023 17:37 utc | 58

Excellent analysis though I think we need to think more about the nature of the US political system as it has developed over time. The USA today is an oligarchy run by (mainly) financial elites and industries allied with them. Their interest is making money. Right now the oligarchs believe they have a perfect system--very corrupt politicians and media greasing the wheels day-in day-out. Trump and others associated with the anti-imperialist and nationalistic right threaten to destroy the multiple gravy-trains chugging out of Washington.

However, some oligarchs are wanting to hedge their bets. Sure, the Democratic Party is now blossoming into a permanent ruling party through its control of media and the intelligentsia (essentially imperial functionaries), but oligarchs do understand that with too much dissent in the society there might be too much disorder. The "left" has tried heroically to curb, through various classic repressive techniques, but has failed. Over time the lies (despite the fact most people want to believe them) have become more and more ridiculous such that opposition to the system will spread and ripen by election time.

Therefore the Democrats are in trouble. If there is no true "change" candidate like Trump we will see states breaking away and people breaking away from the System and new ones springing up. If Trump is convicted and Biden not impeached then Washington will begin to flounder into a death spiral. People have been losing their faith in the authorities for some time now any worse and society falls apart--this is not want most oligarchs want therefore we will see some change for the better.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 3 2023 17:39 utc | 59

"But, the indictment asserts, it is illegal to use those false claims to engage in criminal conduct, the experts said." -NYT

Tying the 1st-amendment-protected statements to the alleged criminal conduct actually either weakens, or demonstrates the weakness of the case against Trump.

They allege criminal acts, which ought to be provable irrespective of any statements.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Aug 3 2023 17:44 utc | 60

In addition to his failings listed above, I would also like to add Biden's manifest sexual deviancy. It's pretty obvious the man is a pedophile.

Posted by: Monos | Aug 3 2023 17:37 utc | 57

Yes, great way to divert attention from real horrorshow issues like war, slobbering over zionazis and destroying the planet - dive deep into psychotic right wing fantasies.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Aug 3 2023 17:44 utc | 61

Posted by b;

‘As much as I dislike Donald Trump, I see no way, aside from criminal manipulation, Joe Biden can take to win this thing.’

Criminal manipulation is nothing for them. They do it 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

Frankly this is not about disliking or liking Trump. Trump as a personality is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the western world is on the precipice of another era of complete fascism, corruption, and worse, genocide, the latter being already well underway. The fact that they can do this to a ‘free’ individual, who happens to be a former President of the USA, the brazen way in which they go about it with lies. The fact that the ‘they’ here include the intelligence branch, judicial branch, corporate world, financial world, their media / propaganda mouthpiece - every area of power across all western governments (except a few), can only mean the loss of individual freedoms for all non-club members, and a heinous agenda that will include war and mayhem for decades to come.

This notion of Russia being the world’s hope, seems to make more and more sense by the day. The Africans have realized this, God bless them. Slava Rússia.

Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 3 2023 17:45 utc | 62

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 3 2023 16:51 utc | 49
> Get out of your basement and chit chat a little with those workers.
My basement? That would be nice but unfortunately I can't afford a house.

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 3 2023 17:47 utc | 63

@ Mark2 | Aug 3 2023 14:48 utc | 11

I can't figure out who you're comparing. Trump is neither a vegetable nor racist, whereas Biden is both.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Aug 3 2023 17:55 utc | 64

They may ultimately block Trump but they also know they aren’t hurting him at the polls either. It’s not really the concern or goal. Trump is the gift. He’s a perfect distraction for those in power; a guarantee they can manipulate liberal hate for him for other ends while keeping people from discussing issues that might threaten power out of the news cycle. As for the Trumpers themselves, they get distracted by Trump from focusing on the real causes of their declining quality of life. If Trump wins, the rich or corporate America hardly lose. In the meantime, corporate news props him up 24/7.

Posted by: GS | Aug 3 2023 17:56 utc | 65

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2023 17:02 utc | 51
> He's not far wrong. Very few people have concerns beyond the material world or their immediate self-satisfaction.
Exactly. People talk mostly about money and leisure activities.
I was walking by a Jehovah's Witness stand once and I overheard their conversation. They were talking about credit cards. I found that funny but not really surprising.

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 3 2023 17:58 utc | 66

And I would add the Democratic Party leadership ultimately works for wealthy and corporate causes not for the base that dislikes Trump (a concern for sure but secondary ultimately).

Posted by: GS | Aug 3 2023 17:59 utc | 67

Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 3 2023 17:45 utc | 61--

Important points you raise. Most here agree that the Outlaw US Empire is an oligarchy with its Board of Directors located in Wall Street otherwise known as the Donors or the Money Power. The aim of the Oligarchy is to keep the facade of legitimacy intact via its Narrative. The last two POTUS election cycles eroded that facade and very few lies remain usable. As I noted yesterday, the crumbling facade also affects the Outlaw US Empire's international legitimacy as it continues to proclaim itself a democracy when it's so obvious that's a lie.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 3 2023 18:04 utc | 68

"Why is the DNC party clinging on to Biden being the next president candidate tooth and nail?" -unimperator | Aug 3 2023 15:28 utc | 25


TPTB are deeply unimaginative, change-averse, mired in confirmation bias, and just not very smart.

Every potential candidate from the 2020 primaries poisoned their brand by capitulating to Biden. Harris has spent 4 years as VP making herself even more despised. The deep state/Demonrats have no viable option that is palatable to themselves. If anyone but Kennedy (who they cannot stomach) is nominated, they will have to cheat again to win, but scrutiny will be much higher this time.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Aug 3 2023 18:05 utc | 69

America has become a combination of 1984, The Twilight Zone and The 3 Stooges all rolled up into a never ending episode, with a little Clockwork Orange mixed in for fun.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 3 2023 18:28 utc | 70

"Alternatively, the two wings of the corporate party could select a couple of contenders that aren't geriatric grifters. It's too much to expect that the two political parties would actually be separate and offer the American public a real choice."

Posted by: Jeff Harrison | Aug 3 2023 14:56 utc | 15


I agree Jeff. That's the key here the two wings of the same corporate party and so many voters are knee deep in left wing right wing bull shit they just can't help themselves. As they drown in ideological GROUPTHINK.

If the two wings of the same corporate party are scared of Trump running, although I don't possibly see how they could be as Trump was brought up by the very same corporate party. Why Trump junior always blames a fictitious non existent radical left instead of the real culprits his pals he grew up with.

Then all they have to do is charge both contenders with the same offence and throw Joe under a bus. He's not fit for 're election anyway. Use the documents to do it and find both guilty.

Job done.


The sad thing about all of this are American voters are so fucking dumb and realky think that either of these corporate whores actually represent them in and way whatsoever. So the shit show will continue.

Whoever is put in front of the American voters will never be faces that represents them period.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Aug 3 2023 18:34 utc | 71

My view is when it is all said and done it will be:

D - Pete Buttigieg (hip gay guy) and Jared Polis (Colorado Gov)
(Dems will realize Biden is a failed Pres, and Karmala is an idiot)

Vs

R Ron DeSantis (successful Gov) and Tim Scott (Black Senator)
(Reps will fix primaries against Trump

Trump will try 3rd party and fail. He won't get on enough state ballots.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Aug 3 2023 18:36 utc | 72

@ fnord | Aug 3 2023 17:20 utc | 53

Pay closer attention.

Hunter's business partner testified under oath that Joe Biden participated in meetings with Hunter Biden's clients in collaboration with Hunters' assertion to them that he had Joe on-side.

That's influence peddling.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Aug 3 2023 18:46 utc | 73

The free speech clause of the Bill of Rights doesn't cover organizing an crime, in this instance a coup against president elect Biden.

Posted by: Jay | Aug 3 2023 18:47 utc | 74

@BroncoBilly, 71:


Pete Buttigieg is an idiot, who has never held higher elected office than mayor of a tiny city. He's clearly CIA and/or military intelligence.

His work a McKinsey consulting is huge red flag.

Also, he's not considered hip by anyone.

His public speaking is as appealing as Harris's.

Posted by: Jay | Aug 3 2023 18:50 utc | 75

Sick and tired | 40

"Trump stiffed contractors while running his business"

Well, you know what, many contractors are crooked, don't perform and/or do shoddy work and deserve to be stiffed. Many general contractors are the same.

"Biden ran the hearings that inflicted Clarence Thomas on the country."

Mr. Thomas is a clear thinking jurist if the rest of the Supreme Court were as clear thinking as him, we would be better off.


Posted by: danf51 | Aug 3 2023 18:53 utc | 76

Pretending that US election results actually reflect the votes of the electorate is as flawed as thinking that TPTB don't pick the candidates that will be on the ballot.

The whole thing is rigged, top to bottom, start to finish. That's why I roll my eyes when analysts proclaim that any decision made by Biden has anything to do with the election. Why would it be? The election has probably already been decided, along with the entire smoke and mirrors propaganda campaign we will be subjected to during the actual election circus.

On the other hand, the inhabitants are getting restless. The lawlessness is getting too noticeable, so they'll probably switch parties next time, and put in a Republican grifting psychopath instead Biden.
Although I have a lousy record of predicting what fresh hell TPTB will unleash on us, I predict that they will bring out someone who is actually acceptable to a majority of Americans, much like Obama was rolled out saying all kinds of pretty words about transparency and restoration of freedoms and peace, in 2008.

Americans were sick of Bush/Cheney and their Patriot Act, wars, TSA, Homeland Security, Military Commissions Act, Guantanamo, etc.
Obama promised to end all that, with the added bonus of proving that America is not racist, because he is black.
So I think that he really did win, unlike Bush/Cheney in 2000 and 2004. The 2008 election was not stolen.
But he was a liar. Homeland repression ramped up, he started more wars, and the bankers were handed free money while Americans were thrown out of their homes.
Guantanamo is still open.

Anyway, I predict they will do it again, with someone else. If they start telling you that some young man made a speech which made Americans swoon, and therefore demand that he run for president....that would be their pick.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 3 2023 19:01 utc | 77

Oh well, here in the UK our last election was most certainly rigged just to keep Corbyn out. TPtB knew Covid was coming and knew JCB wouldn't buy into the lockdowns and the rest of the civil liberties restrictions. Resulting in many Tory MPs (i.e. Hancock for one) being handed millions upon millions of pounds. Also, the Chief Scientific Adviser, Patrick Valance, put £600,000 of his own money into Pfeizer Vaccines at least 7 weeks before the Covid scam kicked off.

Now, it seems Stalin Starmer will be elected Prime Minister. There are and have been questions about his own political funding (including from Israel) and other murkey details. So, we'll get another Biden; Stalin Starmer, who will be a nightmare, another Globalist who hasn't put up a single opposition to anything the Tory Govt has done and has stated that he couldn't go into a General Election by advocating an increase in spending so he would 'reform' the UK. How? He hasn't said that yet. It will mean though, give comments by the Shadow DWP Secretary of State, that they are going to be 'tougher on benefits claimants than the Tories'. That's how they going to reform by hitting the poorest, most vulnerable in society whilst protecting the rich from any further and fairer tax increases. God help us!

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Aug 3 2023 19:04 utc | 78

While the Democrat strategy of using state apparatus to tangle a political opponent is sickeningly cynical, Trump has made this easy for them with his I’ll advised statements. I haven’t read the indictments and don’t intend to, but from memory there was a phone call from Trump to a Republican in Georgia where Trump asked him to find another 11,500 votes. That attempt to interfere with an election alone is likely criminal and should dis-bar a person from holding public office.

As you rightly state the moves against Trump are deliberately timed to deflect from the criminal actions of the Biden family and Democrats.

These candidates are not fit for office and the American people and the world need a higher standard of President.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 3 2023 19:06 utc | 79

What passes for discourse in Noam's world appears to be puerile shouts of defiance against reality into the void, then patting themselves on the back for how brave they are, confronting imaginary resistance.

This is a great article, outlining the likely trend of perceptions leading up to the election. Trump himself is a hugely divisive figure who I have no confidence in, but certainly a better choice than Biden for those who would like Maerica to end its proxy war.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 3 2023 19:13 utc | 80

The order of events... is irrelevant.
The indictment clearly shows a legal strategy that Trump will suffer from.
What is sad is how many people are blinded and ignore the reality that Trump and his co-conspirators are enemies of the United States. They attempted to bypass the election to stay in power and deny citizens their votes.
Trump is a weak, small con man who will ruin the 2024 election for the Republicans.
He deserves to sit in jail for a long time. Chances are very high that he will...

Posted by: Patriot1 | Aug 3 2023 19:14 utc | 81

Lying (like slander) requires you prove conscious intent, which requires proof of state of mind (mens re).
Absent concrete proof, it is almost impossible to prove that someone was deliberately lying or slandering, no matter how false or incorrect, even if they were in fact consciously lying. It is virtually impossible to prove that the elections were on the up and up (and millions do not accept this), let alone that Trump knew it but deliberately lied about it, all with intent to thwart constitutional process.

In fact, the whole deal tells us more about Democrats' state of mind than Trump's (deliberately lying and thwarting justice).

Hillary did in fact commit (gross) negligence with classified material. This does not require intent, as Dems tried to introduce, but her actions to later scrub material and deliberately circumvene established process to keep government material private (as did Obama himself), does in fact show intent and awareness of guilt.

Although the case is weak in the extreme, my expectation is that more injustice will prevail.

Posted by: Webej | Aug 3 2023 19:15 utc | 82

Per atty Jeff Childers (coffee&covid substack), the indictment of Trump opens the door to discovery around election tampering & fraud. All the evidence, which was buried in numerous lawsuits dismissed over technical "process" & "procedure" will now come into play.

Trump can prove that fraud changed the outcome; mountains of documentary evidence was already collected.

The government will have to prove no fraud happened. Proving a negative is normally pretty impossible. In the face of the existing evidence, it will be totally impossible.

The trial will be the campaign.

Posted by: Mary | Aug 3 2023 19:16 utc | 83

He's not far wrong. Very few people have concerns beyond the material world or their immediate self-satisfaction.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2023 17:02 utc | 51

Is there something wrong with concerns about the material world? Or self satisfaction? Deeper thinking in that direction is just what the wage slaves need imo.

How is that you and the sad guy without a basement figured things out? Are you two special compared to those awful workers?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 3 2023 19:19 utc | 84

... can only mean the loss of individual freedoms for all non-club members, and a heinous agenda that will include war and mayhem for decades to come.

This notion of Russia being the world’s hope, seems to make more and more sense by the day. The Africans have realized this, God bless them. Slava Rússia.

Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 3 2023 17:45 utc | 61

...........

Good points + Karlovs reply.

Re: Posted by b:

‘As much as I dislike Donald Trump, I see no way, aside from criminal manipulation, Joe Biden can take to win this thing.’
..............

FWLIW my 2 cents on this, a possible scenario...

1 Trump found guilty of conspiracy to defraud the election by provoking Insurrection in Jan 6th 2021 & more. Over time, case goes to SCOTUS.

1b. Meanwhile, immediately following verdict, GOP removes DJT from ticket, their private Association prerogative. GOP is toast for election. Biden remains.

2a SCOTUS overturns guilty verdict following which nation is engulfed with Soros - Intel run riots like in 2020 but far worse plus new and worse pandemic obliges stiffer lockdowns for submissives mandated by Federal Govt via WHO directive. Biden remains.

2b. SCOTUS does not overturn. DJT is jailed for life following which nation is engulfed with Soros - Intel run riots like in 2020 but far worse this time plus new and worse pandemic obliges stiffer lockdowns for the submissives mandated by Federal Govt via WHO directive. Biden remains.

Biden is the figurehead for the most consequential Presidency since FDR, maybe Lincoln. He's perfect for the position. Elections are irrelevant. Global Reset into One World Multipolar Order will require change of Constitution before 2028. If it happens, 2024 is last election of this 250 year old republican experiment.

As Karlov rightly says, their show no longer fools enough of the people. They know this which is why their mask is slipping and more overt authoritarianism is showing. The Reset will be an offer that a dysfunctional nation in dangerous mayhem will be unable to refuse.

Unless and until the Money Power is displaced, which can only happen after a significant culturo-spiritual shift away from modernistic materialism throwing up mid-level jargon like left and right and capitalism and socialism etc, nothing can prevent a devolution into kleptocratic tyranny.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 3 2023 19:19 utc | 85

Gives new meaning to the term ‘Trumped up charges’!

Posted by: JohnG | Aug 3 2023 19:22 utc | 86

“The Hunter Biden affair, growing like a grotesque weed as we speak, could now prove to be Biden’s greatest vulnerability”

What about all his promises turning out to be lies, not being able to walk down stairs, not being able to debate other potential democrat candidates and being one of the least popular presidents in the history of the country?

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Aug 3 2023 19:24 utc | 87

I hereby, and officially, early-e-vote against every last one of those idiots and all of their little friends.

Posted by: Josh | Aug 3 2023 19:29 utc | 88

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/outrageous-devon-archer-was-given-full-immunity-doj/

"The reason Devon Archer looks so relaxed during his interview with Congress is because he was given total immunity by the DOJ involving his actions with the Biden gang.

This is simply outrageous."

B's 'criminal manipulation'....

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 3 2023 19:34 utc | 89

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Aug 3 2023 19:24 utc | 86

Jörgen - you try climbing up plane steps when your pockets are stuffed with gold bars.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 3 2023 19:38 utc | 90

It's the logical conclusion when you try and return to the times of the Wild West.

Where the big landowner owns the town and the sheriff's office and the railroad and livestock and extracts rents from every person in the town as a protection racket.

Who provided the money to build the church and owned the cloth that told every follower the landowner was always right. Your lucky to have what you have.

Every election is an election to pick the new sheriff and the landowner will instruct you who to pick. Through a varying degree of myths will always get the town to vote against its own best interests. In the town halls is where the myths and lies are comitted.

Blazing saddles described it best. Mr Johnson and every Mr Johnson is right


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3NaQxUEfxt0&pp=ygUhYmxhemluZyBzYWRkbGVzIGpvaG5zb24gaXMgcmlnaHQg

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Aug 3 2023 19:42 utc | 91

We are all born in a cage. The cage called civilization. At a young age the system teaches you what you'll become, and later on, the clock rules your life. The Human species living in a 3D world with a 2D way of thinking.
Yea one could say Trump is not being treated fairly, debatable, but the lack of morality has always put its influences on this world. (It's just not only a western thing.)

Trump will not fix what ails you, your neighbor or the world.

They say "the world has gone mad"... guess what.. It has always been mad, the difference is that you notice.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Aug 3 2023 19:59 utc | 92

That's influence peddling.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Aug 3 2023 18:46 utc | 72

Is influence peddling against the law? Asking for a friend...

Posted by: Phil R | Aug 3 2023 20:04 utc | 93

Decent analysis b. Defense of the right of free speech for Trump. But, he and his "legal" team do not have a right to use "unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results". Lies about results to justify fraudulent slates of electors, (that archaic undemocratic presidential system we use here). This is where the prosecution will try to prove guilt. Another Biden/Trump re-match would be awful for the United States. Like two Berlusconis running against each other. "There must be some kind of way outta here...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4efqwY_BI6c

Posted by: Mantooth | Aug 3 2023 20:08 utc | 94

Biden was never considered a viable candidate by Democrats and will never be run by them. The whole thing is Act 1001 of keeping the electorate stoked to perform the dividing the child into two parts act again.
However, as a nation with a history of important political assassinations, any way to keep the nation in thrall is always in the mix. The only thing unallowable is any actual change.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Aug 3 2023 20:13 utc | 95

If Biden's team conduct their re-election strategy as badly as they've conducted the proxy war in Ukraine and sanctions strategy against Russia, Trump is a cert for '24. I would have said RFK Jr was in with a shot too, but he's proved himself to be a jelly and charlatan in the face of Israel lobby attacks. Shame that.

Posted by: Sorry I forgot name | Aug 3 2023 20:18 utc | 96

Also, as regards Hilary Clinton in 2016: "We came, we saw, she lost."

Posted by: Sorry I forgot name | Aug 3 2023 20:20 utc | 97

One man's influence peddling is another man's extortion. Does Hunter offer to get favors done for clients through his dad, OR, does his dad know who is dirty -- not that hard to do, virtually all senior executives of large corporations, in addition to oligarchs of organized crime in drugs, smuggling, education, land-grab, body-parts, etc. -- and sends Hunter to discuss the price of their freedom from prison or the morgue?

Every President, Senator, Representative, and SES or Appointed Official who entered Congress or an Agency as an affluent American and leaves as a multi-millionaire owning expensive properties with connections all over the world is assumed to have been a more or less accomplished extortionist whilst "serving the American people."

The Bidens, coming from rough and badly-brought-up stock, appear to have missed some payoffs and forgotten, or at least neglected to signal, the minor-ness of their role in the grand scheme of fleecing then burning down the nations with their citizens in them. The Obamas, in contrast, continue to know their place and are well-compensated, in worldly means, for keeping it.

I think, bernard, that you attribute too much agency to the Democratic Party and too little to tax-exempt charitable foundations and their schools and agencies in New York, London, Washington, Langley, and San Francisco. The Party supplies the minions, but the foundations supply the intellectual opiates, the "narratives," the minions spread for them by hook and by crook.

Their game is that of their founders: monopoly control of whatever sustains their monopoly position in society. Unlike God, foundations love beggars. Having schools graduate ignorant, incompetent drones who can be elevated to corporate or national office, to extort, confuse, and harass the generality while protecting foundations' tax-emption, foundation founders, boards, and patrons have discovered, is the easiest way to sustain their monopoly positions in society. Few have tool kit to see what these perpetrators are doing behind the screens of charity and tax-exemption.

This malevolence includes so-called religious institutions, BTW, also tax-exempt.

Best to simply walk away from it all, let it fall into itself, abandon them to self-destruction. No gloating, no hoping for retribution. Just walk away. Detach. Return to the monastery. This is the new way leader families are decentralizing authority so the nations can enjoy it once again and competently in their own ways.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Aug 3 2023 20:22 utc | 98

The free speech clause of the Bill of Rights doesn't cover organizing an crime, in this instance a coup against president elect Biden.

Posted by: Jay | Aug 3 2023 18:47 utc | 73

I'm not a constitutional lawyer but are you really this stupid? if you're going to refer to the Bill of Rights to summarily judge and convict Trump of organizing a crime, maybe you also might want to consider Due Process.

Posted by: Phil R | Aug 3 2023 20:23 utc | 99


Trump a Mythic Figure in the Making

For the last 6 to 7 years Trump has been under attack by the intelligence, Department of Justice and Deep State assets of three American Presidencies (including his own); the establishment of both polical parties of the United States of America; and the international globalist community including global media and financial corportations.

Think about it. The entire internal government and political forces of the greatest nation ever, has been attacking this guy and the best they've done is fight him to a draw. Even with their corrupting the entire American electoral system, to srafe a soft coup d'état.

And it's still not over, there's a strong likelihood he will prevail, become President and change not only the corrupt deep but create a new global geopolitical landscape.

Win or lose he will be a mythical historical figure, if for no other reason than he survived the onslaught of the entire American and Global establishment, their dogs in the US Deep State, and worldwide Corporate Media.

Truly remarkable situation. Truly remarkable.

Posted by: Jerr | Aug 3 2023 20:31 utc | 100

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