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August 30, 2023
Big Serge On The Summer Campaign In Ukraine

Big Serge has a long read about the state of the war in Ukraine which I recommend to read. It is a nice recap of the whole war and the ballyhooed counter-offensive:

Escaping Attrition: Ukraine Rolls the Dice
The Zaporizhia Summer Blockbuster

After concluding that the Ukrainian counter-offensive has evidently failed, he dares a look into the future:

So, whence goes the war from here? Well, the obvious question to ask is whether we believe Ukraine will ever have a more potent assault package than the one they started the summer with. The answer clearly seems to be no. It was like pulling teeth to scrape together these understrength brigades – the idea that, following on a defeat in the Battle of Zaporizhia, NATO will somehow put together a more powerful package seems like a stretch. More to the point, we have American officials saying fairly explicitly that this was the best mechanized package Ukraine was going to get.

It does not seem controversial to say that this was Ukraine’s best shot at some sort of genuine operational victory, which at this point seems to be slowly trickling away into modest but materially costly tactical advances. The ultimate implication of this is that Ukraine is unable to escape a war of industrial attrition, which is precisely the sort of war that it cannot win, due to all the asymmetries that we mentioned earlier.

In particular, however, Ukraine cannot win a positional-attritional war because of its own maximalist definition of “winning.” Since Kiev has insisted that it will not give up until it returns its 1991 borders, an inability to dislodge Russian forces poses a particularly nasty problem – Kiev will either need to admit defeat and acknowledge Russian control over the annexed areas, or it will continue to fight obstinately until it is a failed state with nothing left in the tank.

Trapped in a bat fight, with attempts to unlock the front with maneuver coming to naught, what Ukraine needs most is a much bigger bat. The alternative is a totalizing strategic disaster.

Pushed by the U.S. the Ukrainian leadership seems to have decided to go for the alternative.

Also a good read is:

The Case for Negotiating with RussiaThe New Yorker

Not that Biden will go for it, but it is important that such pieces are now coming up.

Comments

Posted by: Satepestage | Aug 30 2023 19:49 utc | 101
I think a majority voted for Zelensky on a peace platform, and he has obviously betrayed them, and his bootlicking puts them in danger.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 30 2023 19:56 utc | 101

‼️Increasingly more resistance against the mobilization … like here around Dnipro.
The people know whats up at this point …
https://t.me/myLordBebo/5438
Posted by: Satepestage | Aug 30 2023 19:49 utc | 101
A major portion of the Ukrainians aren’t even in Ukraine. 14 million of them have left permanently since 2014 (of which over 5 million since last year), over 5 million are internally displaced, the current population may be around 20 million.
Of those who “support” the war live in the west, and they have little to no skin in the game. In the east and center, forced mobilization take place. Kiev regime may still be able to mobilize a lot of people, but probably not as many as they announced, by a long shot. Apparently, Kiev is mobilizing the areas that they acknowledge as they silently acknowledge as lost. They kill the population and then consume those areas with war.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 19:59 utc | 102

That was a dumb read.
— “a Ph.D. in political science at Oxford”
— “working at the Center for American Progress”
— “Russia was the aggressor, to be sure”
— “anger at Russia for its interference in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election”
— “Charap was as angry as anyone else about the interference”
— “They’re asking the world’s most powerful military alliance to strip naked and run laps,” he said.”
I had to stop listing the dumb things.

Posted by: seedeevee | Aug 30 2023 20:04 utc | 103

@Stephane | Aug 30 2023 15:37 utc | 44

The story offered by Aldo Sterone on his YouTube channel is that of an explosive device planted in the wing during maintenance operations, as a stay behind mechanism, triggered by messaging on its SIM card when visual confirmation of human target onboarding the aircraft was done.
According to him the small size of the blast, the duration of the fall and the type of device activation is supposed to send a chilling message to the enemies of Ukraine still flying domestically.

The last public view of Prigozhin was the video from Africa in which he was talking about Africa becoming free and how the Wagner PMC aims to support this. Given the deteriorating situation in Central Africa which is putting the large US drone base in Niger at risk, is it not more likely that the CIA arranged for the assassination of the Wagner leaders, Prigozhin, Utkin and the second in command?

Posted by: cirsium | Aug 30 2023 20:06 utc | 104

Good, useful analysis. We should frame the question of negotiations in the Ukraine war carefully. The evidence shows the US/NATO provoked the conflict. It’s one thing for Russia to call for negotiations, but for those outside the conflict zone, I submit, the only principled cry is “US/NATO Out Now! Not one, dollar, bomb or bullet for the US Proxy War!” See The US Has no Right to Negotiate Anything in Ukraine for more.

Posted by: BruceLesnick | Aug 30 2023 20:12 utc | 105

unimperator | Aug 30 2023 19:59 utc | 103
***Of those who “support” the war live in the west, and they have little to no skin in the game. In the east and center, forced mobilization take place. Kiev regime may still be able to mobilize a lot of people, but probably not as many as they announced, by a long shot. Apparently, Kiev is mobilizing the areas that they acknowledge as they silently acknowledge as lost. They kill the population and then consume those areas with war.***
So why has Lvov not been intensively firebombed or hit with barrages of fragmentation warheads — not the occasional ‘precision’ hit on military installations, but punitive strikes to especially target the clubs and other favoured hangouts of the offspring and relatives of NATO sucking-puppets, apparatchiks and Azovites?

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 30 2023 20:24 utc | 106

I think a majority voted for Zelensky on a peace platform, and he has obviously betrayed them, and his bootlicking puts them in danger.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 30 2023 19:56 utc | 102
That was then, things have probably radicalized since last year. Actual opinion on the ground in Ukraine is hard to assess for obvious reasons but the proof is in the pudding: how many surrender, desert, frag their officers etc?
A nation that does not want to fight for the West goes down like Afghanistan.
Some state terrorism and fanatics may steel things a bit but only so much.
You need a large amount of consent to wage a total war. How long it will last who knows, maybe another 200000 casualties, maybe two millions.

Posted by: Satepestage | Aug 30 2023 20:36 utc | 107

Military summary:
-AFU hasn’t succeeded in securing Robotyne, RU maintains their advanced observation positions in the vicinity and bombards it making everything difficult
-AFU changed focus toward Verbove (Dima’s “flower” theory i.e. expanding their control)
-AFU managed to enter NW part of Verbove, the next defense line runs west to south-west to west through Verbove
-RU has complete dominance of artillery and drones around Staramayorsk and Urozhaine
-AFU launch attack from Ugledar toward Blahodatne
-RU is maintaining pressure and hitting a lot of positions in Krasnogorovka (north of Maryinka)
-RU managed to destroy AFU drone operator squad around Pervomaiske which found themselves too close to the front (these forces are worth their weight in gold)
-RU is bombarding Tonenke, west of Avdeevka (Tonenke would be critical for encircling and finishing Avdeevka but very hard to advance, completely open terrain)
-RU has strong position from Artemovsk controlling Ivanovske with drones
-both sides bringing more forces near Klescheevka, AFU attempt to renew attacks
-AFU managed to make a deep penetration between Kurdumyivka and Andrevka

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 20:51 utc | 108

So why has Lvov not been intensively firebombed or hit with barrages of fragmentation warheads — not the occasional ‘precision’ hit on military installations, but punitive strikes to especially target the clubs and other favoured hangouts of the offspring and relatives of NATO sucking-puppets, apparatchiks and Azovites?
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 30 2023 20:24 utc | 107

Perhaps because Lvov is unreachable to other types of weapons except drones and precision weapons? Agreed though, maybe they should have hit the Azov parade when it was held. There’s really no downside any more.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 20:53 utc | 109

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 30 2023 19:20 utc | 90
I admit he always does his videos in his car. He is a real story teller, and I once compared him to our Alain Decaux who was a childhood memory of many french boys and dads for decades past.
One can watch his shows still today 🙂
https://youtu.be/2sfRkK1fSJk?si=2Ph2eQnnl8W3Fnyp
But really, Aldo is gluing you with his aviation stories. He is that good. He is not particularly interested in the Ukrainian conflict in fact.
Regarding this event of the downing of the aircraft I must say I haven’t seen anything else that detailed and convincing.
I admit being a simple man with a long career as a techie in the world of software development. And so my understanding of this event can only be that, an understanding.

Posted by: Stephane | Aug 30 2023 21:04 utc | 110

News from the Underground (in this case a sewer)
https://yvesengler.com/2023/08/30/shame-on-ndp-for-supporting-us-empire-over-humanity/

Posted by: bevin | Aug 30 2023 21:10 utc | 111

“…Latvia has UK troops, I think, and as they are so involved in Ukraine it may seem like just returns…” Stonebird@97
There are 800 Canadian troops stationed in Latvia too.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 30 2023 21:14 utc | 112

Dima says that the Russians are retreating. Ukraine is seems to be stronger around Robotyne.

Posted by: simplex | Aug 30 2023 21:14 utc | 113

Please people, our host did not link The New Yorker article because he thought you should agree with it. He linked it because it gives insight into how the warped minds of the imperial establishment work.
Yes, every paragraph is filled with Russophobic bile. The small, twisted minds of the Empire of Delusions need that nonsense to bolster their courage before they can even start to consider they have failed and need to think about changing course. What is important here is not the Russophobic self-delusion the imperialists are using to protect their ridiculous superhero self-image. What is important is they are starting to realize that what they are currently doing isn’t working. They are not going to get what they want out of their proxy war. While the empire’s failure might seem obvious to some of us, it comes as a huge shock to the imperialists, and they need lots of jingoistic bullshit to cope.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 30 2023 21:14 utc | 114

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 30 2023 18:09 utc | 71
I’m surprised you could not see the still frames he is referring to in his video.
Probably is it due to it being in French and the editing a quick job.
It’s too bad I’m no longer in Norway for I would be very happy to watch it again and talk about it around a beer by Aker Brygge 🙂 Men på andre siden ville det vaere kempe kul at treffes i Provence hvis du kommer hit. Hilsen!

Posted by: Stephane | Aug 30 2023 21:15 utc | 115

This is ALREADY a HIGHLY NEGOTIATED war, then NATO BREAKS THEIR PROMISES and blames in on Zelensky. DRONES FROM NATO STATES Lithuania or Estonia taking out a Russian Airport? So far Putin and the MOD think it is keeping up with the escalation, but a lot of people in Russia and around the globe do not think so. They think Russia should LOWER THE HAMMER ON UKRAINIAN BANKS AND STATE ADMINISTRATION THAT RUNS THE GOVERNMENT through which the funds pass, and the airports, and the…etc. But the slower RUS goes the more opportunities to do gimmicky tricks to convince us the Ukies are winning and we should spend more on weakening Russia, at least on the news. People believe what they see on their TVs, so if the generals tell us they are winning, they are. THERE ARE NO RULES IN WAR, so what good is PUTIN THE LAWYER when the court of MSM is fixed? Some think he should hit the people causing the problem and spare the poor Ukie 70 year olds dying for freedom in the most totalitarian and corrupt state in the world. They think he should KILL THE BEAST – hit the money.

Posted by: JimG | Aug 30 2023 21:22 utc | 116

@Stephane | Aug 30 2023 21:15 utc | 116
👏 Applaus! Jeg er imponert over din Norsk!
A talk over a beer in Provence would be nice… I did see the whole video, but I am hard to convince sometimes 😎

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 30 2023 21:23 utc | 117

Posted by: JimG | Aug 30 2023 21:22 utc | 117
Here is a link https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1696983703954530794 to a BBC tweet with a rough map of locations that Ukraine is alleged to have hit in Russia 190 times in the last 8 months.

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 30 2023 21:25 utc | 118

Ukrainian attack is going slowly, but steady.
I think we are underestimating them.
Their casualties do not matter in this fight, millions are ready as replacement for the dead soldiers. The Ukrainians consider dying for the western interests as a noble cause.

Posted by: simplex | Aug 30 2023 21:26 utc | 119

Crimean Bridge images from satalites reveal ongoing efforts by the Russian military to strengthen their defensive capabilities around the structure. Eight barges were intentionally submerged along the bridge in order to establish a defensive barrier against unmanned kamikaze boats operated by the kiev regime.
Cables and chains will be deployed, stretching between the flooded barges. Given that Ukrainian attacks predominantly occur during night time, the presence of the barrier will impede the navigational capabilities of kiev regime forces planning to attack the bridge.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 30 2023 21:30 utc | 120

YetAnotherAnon@93
“…it was never the masses. It was a “vanguard” as Lenin called it – an elite. The masses of 1917 wanted an end to war and some land to cultivate..”
By the end of the Civil war there were about a million men in the Red Army which had defeated numerous invasions and White uprisings.
The tiny Bolshevik party was incapable of carrying out a revolution and maintaining power without the support of the masses, who knew, very well, what the alternative to Soviet power was. And fought to defeat it.
“..the world bourgeoisie – or at least the most powerful American section – actually helped them”
This is flagrant misrepresentation: it took the USSR years, and tons of gold, to get even a few businesses to invest in their country, largely because of the boycotts, sanctions and other prohibitive disincentives imposed by ‘western’ governments. The exceptions were welsome and important but not, in the scheme of things, crucial. They were dwarved by the massive US investments in Germany and the German automotive industries.
“..Influential newspapers like the NYT denied the 1930s famines in the Soviet Union…”
Influential papers, including the NYTimes, also exaggerrated and invented famines in Russia and other problems. As evidence of the supposed collusion between the USSR and international capitalism this is very thin, all it proves is that you are desperate to make an anti-communist point.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 30 2023 21:32 utc | 121

Stephane | Aug 30 2023 15:37 utc | 44
Thanks for that. I haven’t studied any of the vid or followed the “who/how” it was done.
Immediately, and going with nothing but “gut feel”, IMVHO, it was done by western/israeli intelligence operatives.
Putin was coming for Prigozhin. That day, or the day before there was information about the extent of graft in Wagner re sloSMO catering and other contracts.
Piggie PRiggie and his fellow Wagner war profiteers couldn’t help themselves to help themselves to the fat contracts the sloSMO offered.
Putin wouldn’t kill Prigozhin, but he’d certainly have him prosecuted.
Western intel has been obsessed with Prigozhin.
When Putin let him carry on after the Weekend in Rostov, the west couldn’t understand. Even the Judge Napolitano line-up fully believed Putin would kill or incarcerate Prigozhin.
Putin is more evil than Stalin, and Stalin would have shot Prigozhin on the spot.
Western/Israeli intel killing Prigozhin makes Putin look bad and happily confirms for western audiences that “Putin is a killer”.
Putin didn’t want Prigozhin dead… but those on the other side of the stinky sloSMO contracts probably did. Prigozhin and top echelon Wagner were profiting, and someone was aiding this, and getting a cut. Ten percent for the “Big Guy” is for amateurs.
For a lot of people, but not Putin, Prigozhin is better dead.
And of course, whoever killed Prigozhin can be sure Putin will cop the rap.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 30 2023 21:35 utc | 122

Also a good read is: The Case for Negotiating with Russia – The New Yorker
Not that Biden will go for it, but it is important that such pieces are now coming up.
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I beg to differ. Facts are facts.
The two breakaway oblasts declared themselves ‘volksrepubliks’ and were recognized as such by the Russian Dima, which requested Putin to construct a defense agreement. These relationships are covered by Article 51 of the UN Charter.
The increased shelling of these two oblasts by Zelensky in mid-February 2022 caused them to ask Russia for immediate assistance, hence the SMO and not a Declaration of War.
Them is the legal facts, reflected in International Law and a good start for verbal combat.
For reference, I might remind the US audience of an opening sentence in some dusty old document: ‘When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary to sever the bonds . …’
The US Declaration of Independence for thirteen breakaway colonies. Read them and weep.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Aug 30 2023 21:38 utc | 123

The New Yorker piece is useless and I will not read it. MSM has to abandon the notion of the evil, aggressive Russian monster. I don’t see any steps anywhere leading in that direction. The current noise is that more money and more weapons will not do for now.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Aug 30 2023 19:29 utc | 92
The MSM has, for a number of years, at least, proven itself to be completely useless at delivering honest reporting or analysis. It’s bias is reminiscent of what we studied in school about the “yellow journalism” of the late 19th, early 20th, century. It’s basically propaganda for the powers that be, or I don’t know, someone, somewhere.. I think it might help some if ownership of the news deliverers, whether TV, Internet, whatever, were broken into many more, smaller parts. As it is now, they behave as though they’re controlled by a single entity. I’m not saying they are, actually, but they sure behave in that manner. We are given whatever that entity is pushing. That’s not how it’s supposed to be. It seems like it always was, some, but not like in recent years.

Posted by: jonboinAR | Aug 30 2023 21:47 utc | 124

“The New Yorker” has been steadily anti-Russia for years. I would call it a neocon propaganda rag, if it weren’t for the fact that it does have some good non-political articles.

Posted by: Rob | Aug 30 2023 21:48 utc | 125

Posted by: simplex | Aug 30 2023 21:26 utc | 120
There is too much propaganda on both sides to determine real losses in material and soldiers on both sides. Also the the state of weapons stocks and production. Assume everything of that sort is a lie, on both sides. Same for info about mobilization.
But facts on the ground, read: maps, indicate that Russia has been retreating for over a year now, with some exceptions. Their opponent had almost a year to prepare and strategize. Just like they had all that time to construct a defense which is starting to crack here and there.
Tables turn but it has been a long time since they turned in Russia’s favor.

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 30 2023 21:48 utc | 126

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 30 2023 21:48 utc | 127
but it isn’t cracking. see the Big Serge article. also the advanatage in artillery, the losses of supplies and men is obvious.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 30 2023 21:57 utc | 127

Ukrainian attack is going slowly, but steady.
I think we are underestimating them.
Their casualties do not matter in this fight, millions are ready as replacement for the dead soldiers. The Ukrainians consider dying for the western interests as a noble cause.
Posted by: simplex | Aug 30 2023 21:26 utc | 120

Well, okay, then they’ll die then.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 30 2023 21:59 utc | 128

Jew from RAND and Jew from New York. Might as well copying and pasting talking points from Nuland and Soros.

Posted by: AlphaTauri | Aug 30 2023 22:03 utc | 129

Mysterious Prighozin video.
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1697007679468626242

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 22:11 utc | 130

But facts on the ground, read: maps, indicate that Russia has been retreating for over a year now, with some exceptions. Their opponent had almost a year to prepare and strategize. Just like they had all that time to construct a defense which is starting to crack here and there.
Posted by: alek_a | Aug 30 2023 21:48 utc | 127
The kiev regime has FAILED in the counter offensive. Thats a FACT Mr Alek. It has FAILED for 18 months to expel the Russians. It has failed to reach Crimea. Failed to cut the land bridge. It FAILED in Mariupol. It FAILED in Bakhmut. Meanwhile, Russian tactical withdrawals in the Kharkov region are being retaken, albeit slowly.
Youre statement is absolutely ridiculous Mr Alek.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 30 2023 22:13 utc | 131

@ William Gruff | Aug 30 2023 21:14 utc | 115
thanks for saying that… i have ignored those who couldn’t figure it out..

Posted by: james | Aug 30 2023 22:16 utc | 132

Ukrainian attack is going slowly, but steady. I think we are underestimating them. Their casualties do not matter in this fight, millions are ready as replacement for the dead soldiers. The Ukrainians consider dying for the western interests as a noble cause.
Posted by: simplex | Aug 30 2023 21:26 utc | 120
Then you’ll recognise that the people of Donbas and Crimea would “die for a noble cause” then, wont you? And that they’ve stood up to 10 years of violence and intimidation from Kiev….but they stood strong against kiev. Im sure you’ll agree Mr Simple. After all thats youre logic.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 30 2023 22:19 utc | 133

What is important here is not the Russophobic self-delusion the imperialists are using to protect their ridiculous superhero self-image. What is important is they are starting to realize that what they are currently doing isn’t working. They are not going to get what they want out of their proxy war. While the empire’s failure might seem obvious to some of us, it comes as a huge shock to the imperialists, and they need lots of jingoistic bullshit to cope.

Great comment.
They also need to worry about their low IQ fanclub in NAFO and the hundred and one propaganda outfits. Moving too fast will reveal the wolf hiding in sheep’s clothing and they sure as fuck don’t want that.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 30 2023 22:31 utc | 134

MSM recently claimed that RU has 1.33 million troops in Ukraine, where as Ukraine has close to 500k. How do you know something is not true? Right, MSM.
Weeb Union in his latest video made a very cruel analysis of troop counts. He simply counted the unit icons on the map from a few different sources on the map and concluded RU might have 500k and Ukraine 400k troops. Ukraine would maintain numerical advantage in Artemovsk and Seversk sector (where they have relatively more success) and RU would maintain advantage in every other front, from Kherson to Kupyansk.
It is a very crude, and probably not reliable way to calculate but it is better than nothing and directional.
Obviously with a decent advantage in Robotyne, there should be no chance of AFU achieving any sort of breakthrough, and they haven’t.
Obviously Ukraine could achieve local success even due to the fact that they have some sort of wedge in the defense, which stretches the defending sides lines and forces to defend 3 fronts simultaneously. But reportedly a “concentrated” blob in the rear of Robotyne, and the bridgehead area is easier to hit with all types of weapons which more than mitigates that assumed advantage.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 22:32 utc | 135

expand attacks on Russia, where they would use the territory of Poland, the Baltic states, Finland and even Japan for such a thing. The organization of these attacks was entrusted to the British MI6, SBU and GUR. Naval combat forces and ports of the Northern, Pacific and Baltic fleets, as well as logistics hubs and industrial facilities deep in Russian territory, would be targeted.

What could possibly go wrong? Holy shit the breathtaking stupidity of this.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 30 2023 22:39 utc | 136

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 22:32 utc | 136
A wedge might stretch the defence, but it also means the attackers have a larger perimeter to defend. The German’s loss of the Sixth Army in Stalingrad meant that Germany never had the manpower on the Eastern Front to effect anything more than temporary operational success. This was evident during Operation Citadel, where this shortfall constantly forced the German spearheads to limit their axes of advance. The same situation is being played out on the Southern Front, the Ukrainian axis of advance has started to wander, after it was unable to consolidate its hold over Robotyne it now tries to attack Verbove. It may succeed in wedging itself in, but it’s then just replicating the problems it encountered in Robotyne, worse Verbove is bisected by the first defence line, a far harder proposition.
Ukraine are now stuck, unable to achieve any of their D+ objectives in over 80 days of combat they have used up all the allocated troops for all four phase lines of the operation (initial break in, Tokmak, Melitopol and Sea of Azov). They’ve achieved a 10km salient, that is a greater risk to the attacker than to the defender, by destroying or exhausting upwards of 20 brigades. If they continue pushing, they run the risk of losing these modest gains to one Russian counter-attack. The vultures are beginning to circle and some in the West are already linking the failure of the offensive to the steady drumbeat about a COVID re-emergence, emanating from an increasingly desperate Biden Junta.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 30 2023 23:12 utc | 137

Patrick Lancaster: What Russians really think of the U.S. and Ukraine war.
Posted by: Tiano | Aug 30 2023 17:32 utc | 67
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…what ***SOME*** Russians think of the U.S. and Ukraine war.
God I get sick of vox pops, street polls, statistical generalisations and extrapolations from small samplings of a citizenry.
Not that I’m slandering PR at all, or denying that those views might be common/typical. But ffs, 10 people’s opinions to a foreign journo’s camera in a war zone does NOT equal “Russians”.
Journalists of all stripes (a) choose the people they film. (b) They often ask leading questions. (c) The respondents often reply as they think expected. (d) Videos get edited as per the story to be told. (e) Anecdotes do not (always) prove facts.
If it’s not too big an ask, people, please use accurate qualifiers when summing up whole populations — eg, some, many, those Donbass residents we spoke to, etc. Russia is so vast. There is no way to say “what Russians think”. There may well be “many Russians” not thinking the same. In fact, I’d wager that most Russians think only what they’re fed by the 6 o’clock news … just as in most other countries. A street poll in Vladivostok, Omsk or St Petersberg would give a totally different picture.

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 30 2023 23:27 utc | 138

Stonebird@97….sounds easy but! There are eight hundred Canadian beavers frothing at the mouth, just waiting to chew on some Russian balls. So be careful what you ask for, not sure if the trans Canada doc covered that story.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 30 2023 23:41 utc | 139

Steven J Gerndt MD
You saw Richard J Timmons, MD
God I get sick of vox pops, street polls, statistical generalisations and extrapolations from small samplings of a citizenry.
Posted by: SCCC | Aug 30 2023 23:27 utc | 139
The problem with the opinions of a large number of people is that it is seldom more than information presented by who ever took the poll, and thus inherently second hand. Potentially better information, but only if the sample is sincerely unbiased and then honestly reported. I see these small group “extrapolations” as a kind of reality check. That is, they are a way of figuring out if I am I being fed a load of bull by the systems much larger sample.
Of course small samples can be deliberately biased also.
There is a limiting return in the degree of reliability of a sample as the sample size gets bigger. I suspect well funded sample takers stress very large samples because it limits competition. Not too many people want to fund a sample of several thousand.

Posted by: Jmaas | Aug 30 2023 23:47 utc | 140

Negotiating with RF. Seems more a western dream than a reality if Medevev’s statements are taken into account. i dont believe the west wants negotiations outside public media statements, the latest drone sneak attack from latvia or whatever shows theres no real desire for peace at a administer level.

Posted by: hankster | Aug 30 2023 23:53 utc | 141

The US claims that they don’t know where the weapons they supplied went to may be a way to “un-account” for the fact that they have been destroyed.

Posted by: daffyDuct | Aug 31 2023 0:06 utc | 142

The drone strike on the Russian base with the IL-76s is interesting as it’s an escalation not seen before by the west, the Prighozin assassination is another escalation in my opinion not seen before, he was a strategic Russian asset in Africa. We can see that the escalation ladder is moving towards Russian strategic assets both human and military assets.
I get the odd feeling that Putin and the Russian government are responding and escalating in an asymmetrical way but in a quiet way that doesn’t force a public response by the west but rather a response as the two incidents seen above.
I believe we are entering a dangerous part of the conflict as both sides may miscalculate especially the elements/factions in the west which appear to be operating independently by escalating towards the point were Putin will have to respond in a public manner. This air base attack is one example, it is also most surely independent actors within Ukraine and the NATO/USA neocon/military complex that want Putin to respond in order to rope in the rest of NATO/USA into a conflict.
No doubt there are behind the scenes talks between Russia and the US government, and it is being communicated to Russia that these are unsanctioned actions by independent factions but this can only work so long and there is the real risk that the western factions go too far and start to take out Russian strategic assets such as Tu-160s, TU-22s, IL 76s, etc and Putin is forced to respond publicly against NATO assets.
This is the real risk to the Putin strategy, of not responding, there are western factions that do want war with Russia and they may do something so big that it forces a limited Russian response against NATO by Putin and then the escalation ladder spins out of control.
This is why I believe some in the west are calling for negotiations, it’s not to save Ukraine but rather an attempt to get off the escalation cycle before it spins out of control.

Posted by: silverdogtalks148 | Aug 31 2023 0:16 utc | 143

re: karlof1 | Aug 30 2023 16:11 utc | 52
you wrote: Russia’s serious about arresting and prosecuting those who conduct what it considers terrorist attacks with the door wide open for arresting those in the West who abetted those crimes, beginning with Biden on down the ladder.
Russia, do the world (and the US) a favor and follow the Red Queen protocol: carry out the sentence first.

Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 31 2023 0:19 utc | 144

God I get sick of vox pops, street polls, statistical generalisations and extrapolations from small samplings of a citizenry.
If it’s not too big an ask, people, please use accurate qualifiers when summing up whole populations –There is no way to say “what Americans think”. There may well be “many Americans” not thinking the same. In fact, I’d wager that most Americans think only what they’re fed by the 6 o’clock news … just as in NATo countries. A street poll in Chicago, Albany or St Petersberg, Florida would give a totally different picture.
Posted by: SCCC | Aug 30 2023 23:27 utc | 139

I could not have said it better… Our anonymous CIA/NSA/MI6 TROLL finally admits that US citizens in particular only believe what they see on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, & CBS..
How he reconciles this with the main stream media’s total viewership < 25 million vs the 233 million who viewed Tucker Carlson's interview of Trump, remains un explained... Most likely, like Mrs. Hiliary Clinton.... he discounts those masses as "deplorables"... to stupid to notice her philandering... not to mention that of "The Man".... As one of the "Deplorables" who served his country in wartime, and went into harms way... While.... Mr. SCCC cowered under his pillow.... I'll take Patrick Lancaster, and TEXAS views on the attitude of the men and women of the Donbas over his CRAP ANY DAY!! INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 31 2023 0:22 utc | 145

News from the Underground (in this case a sewer)
https://yvesengler.com/2023/08/30/shame-on-ndp-for-supporting-us-empire-over-humanity/
Posted by: bevin | Aug 30 2023 21:10 utc | 112
Scratch a Canadian Leftie or “Liberal” and there is a seething Totalitarian vibrating with a “do as I say or I’m gonna hurt you” tyrant buried inside.
The newfound American Lover, Old Pliable Joe, doing favors for Trudeau the Lesser and Singh, the attaboy, would shame an ordinary person. But these guys aren’t ordinary. They have dog poopy on their shoes. A tried and true Union at the Brothel, Top Seniority Biden dispensing favors, and Trudeau and Singh splurging in delight.

Posted by: kupkee | Aug 31 2023 0:23 utc | 146

@Feral Finster 81
For the answer to that question we have only to ask which Russian oligarchs still have business interests in Ukranazistan. And why Russian refiner Lukoil is supplying fuel to Ukranazistan through Bulgaria and Putin does nothing to stop it.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 31 2023 0:27 utc | 147

The author works for the swamp, The Rand Corporation. I did not waste my time on it.

Posted by: Kaiama | Aug 31 2023 0:28 utc | 148

karlof1 | Aug 30 2023 16:11 utc | 52
“so far as I know Ukraine’s drones don’t work via satellite link.” does anyone have any proof otherwise?? thanks..
Posted by: james | Aug 30 2023 18:07 utc | 70
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I’d imagine that there are so many comms options available these days for everything from ICBMs to FPV droves, that what is used in one situation and region and made by different manufacturers and modified by each military side, does not equal another.
Remember, Musk’s Skylink was the popular AFU comms for all while, but then RF jammed it and he pulled it “for military use”. But possibly it is still being used away from the Donbass front … eg the Pskov attack near Latvia/Estonia.
Hovering planes and helis could well be a new delivery and control platform. No sattelite, no GPS needed. Planes launch 20 drones 100km from outside Russia then piss off home. “Hey, where tf did they come from?”
RF and AFU play daily cat and mouse with comms and EW. Certainly US/NATO aerial surveilance is guiding them at certain times in certain places. We’d have NO FKN IDEA. It’s operational secrets. No assumptions/presumptions allowed! Certainly the Black Sea has become a whole new strike zone for the AFU in the last few months. RF has yet to seal-up that area from constant attacks. And, the RF Baltic borders might be their next annoyance.
I suggest that RF inventing a sort of homogeneous EW dome or net over their battlefield and border areas could win the SMO for them overnight (maybe like Israel’s Iron Dome). As well, if they could invent some unhackable-crypto-stealth-comms for their own drones they’d certainly have the upper hand.
Did folks see the news about America’s plans/designs/prototype for a “thousand drone swarm” to “disable the Chinese navy”? Pfft. Imo China/Russia will sabotage them in a jiffy. I would say space-to-terrestrial weapons will be the next frontier (if not already).

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 31 2023 0:30 utc | 149

re: bevin | Aug 30 2023 18:31 utc | 74
you wrote: . . . all that keeps the regime together is terror under the beedy eyes of the NATO sponsors.
It is unsustainable- if NATO doesn’t pull the plug and sue for peace at any price, which will probably mean sacrificing Ukrainian land for property rights and other financial considerations, the people will take over.

I see no sign that the neocons have a reverse gear, do you? And do you think Russia is in the mood to negotiate? I get the impression that the Russian public would consider a Minsk 3 to be the equivalent of treason.
When you write “the people”, are you thinking the army will revolt and pull off a coup and sue for peace? I don’t see how the Ukrainian public is in a position to take down the government.
Meanwhile, here in the Red State heartland of the US, people are angrily watching the Biden regime turn the US into a full-fledged Banana Republic, hell-bent on throwing the leading political opposition in prison, getting ready to impose more lockdowns with the latest bioengineered virus complete with the custom mRNA mandatory “vaccine” to help improve your child’s immune system and boost human fertility. Let’s Go Brandon.

Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 31 2023 0:36 utc | 150

Posted by: marcjf | Aug 30 2023 18:58 utc | 84
…the substack platform is technically superior to this one and allows a thread of debate / conversation to develop….
I completely agree. I don’t like this linear style of commenting. To get to the good comments you have to read through all the bullshit ones.

Posted by: JK in Glendale | Aug 31 2023 0:39 utc | 151

I believe Washington will escalate.

Posted by: Bismarck | Aug 31 2023 0:54 utc | 152

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 31 2023 0:22 utc | 146
You truly are a deluded fuckwit “Professor Dr George”. You misconstrue nearly every post you read and then regurgitate your pompous paranoid bile against those who post in good faith but who differ with your own biases. The point I was making was, yes, equally transferable across to the American pysche. You’re ghost-punching.
Like the former RSH, I wish you would ignore my posts as they are not intended for fools like you but rather, thinking people without OCD and rampant egoistic tendencies.

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 31 2023 0:55 utc | 153

Some videos for today.
Russian forces issue appeal calling on Kiev regime troops to surrender:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-08-28_12-05-27:9
Russian Nona-S strikes enemy attacking troops near Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/2517d2104c48c37d82e95b8205c9e576/
Russian Grad launcher fires on enemy position:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/GRAD_3008:c
Russian thermobaric TOS-1A in action:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Solntsepyok_3008:7

Posted by: Nate | Aug 31 2023 0:57 utc | 154

@ silverdogtalks148 | Aug 31 2023 0:16 utc | 144
good post.. i share your concerns here…
@ SCCC | Aug 31 2023 0:30 utc | 150
thanks.. unimperator said something very similar earlier in the thread.. to quote them –
“The real determinant in this war are drone superiority, counter artillery superiority and artillery superiority. Infantry are more of a placeholder for holding fronts together, but without those three they can’t do much…
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2023 14:49 utc | 34”
my thinking is similar to the poster @ 144… russia is going to have to confront the west in some type of asymmetrical response with plausible deniability… i think this is coming.. how can it not?

Posted by: james | Aug 31 2023 1:14 utc | 155

I believe the all fronts drone attack was used because the west has nothing else. Remaining well trained UAF troops are nearly exhausted and a new mobilization cannot replace the losses of combat experienced soldiers.
Russia has been pounding the Ukrainian rear with missile strikes for weeks now, as well as eliminating artillery deployed to the front at a steady pace.
Ukraine is broke, lacking armor and munitions, and likely unable to sustain the current intensity of fighting for much longer. There is probably a fear that if the front begins to give way the situation could rapidly devolve into a rout.
Surviving the winter with degraded infrastructure and an army made up of ill equipped green conscripts is probably viewed as a long shot.
Some provocation that results in a wider conflict may be viewed as a hail mary.

Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 31 2023 1:33 utc | 156

Does anyone happen to know if there’s a transcript of the Tucker Carlson Viktor Orban interview?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 31 2023 1:36 utc | 157

I have just finished reading Big Serge’s account; thank you b. I see there are a lot of comments at his site; I’ve just read the first, by ebear, I think. I really recomment this comment as it takes account of earlier history as Russia and Ukraine developed after the breakup of the USSR, in very powerful ways.
I’ll read more of the comments if I can. Thanks again, b.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 31 2023 1:38 utc | 158

The substack comments system sucks. They also take a cut of subscription fees from the authors. Personally I prefer MoA’s comment layout. It forces me to at least notice if not read unpopular opinions and engage with people with whom I disagree. Clearly there are some inherently inconvenient aspects, but I hope b doesn’t switch to a system with “likes” or filtering. The throwback manual approach here without nested replies is unique.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 31 2023 1:42 utc | 159

I don’t know if this has been mentioned before but 4 or 5 days ago Pepe Escobar revealed in an a recorded interview that his sources in Russia have told him that Russia will initiate a “huge” (or some such word) offensive some time in September.
The course of the war will be much clearer once we see the Russians go in the move again. If Escobar is correct then that’ll be quite soon. If not, then the Russians will continue to grind down the Ukrainians until they eventually do take the offensive. The loss in manpower has so far been entirely lopsided, and Russia will not hit until it has achieved the aims articulated by Putin back in Feb 2022.
I would not be surprised if Russia continues to fight on even after those aims have been achieved. At this point the Russians recognize that they are in an existential fight with the US and NATO. Putting pressure on NATO by, for instance, swallowing up the Baltic states may be all that is needed to finally break that organization.

Posted by: Pacfica Advocate | Aug 31 2023 1:47 utc | 160

Konrad | Aug 30 2023 16:57 utc | 57
The basis for Gessen’s essay was the work of “Samuel Charap, who grew up in Manhattan, and does not go to Macy’s or Bath and Body Works near his office in Arlington, VA. ”
One imagines Charap writes to please his granny who came to NYC from the Old Country.
Better he should have gotten granny a perfume collection from Macy’s basement.

Posted by: ChasMark | Aug 31 2023 1:47 utc | 161

reply to 132
In normal military history, Ukraine has failed. Unfortunately, is that really the final judgement of the matter? They gained a little ground and killed some Russians- which comports with the Western purpose. They did this at little cost to themselves, merely 700 – 1000 KIA per day. And they can keep this up for about 10 years, maybe longer if they get 200K of 18 yr olds per year.
Is Russia being set up for a ‘War in Vietnam’ – which goes on with no end? If otherwise, we need to analyse how Ukraine can actually lose such that armed resistance stops.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 31 2023 1:49 utc | 162

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 31 2023 1:36 utc | 158
tom.. i think this is what you are looking for.. also, i agree with you on the comment section setup for substack.. it sucks..
Interview with Viktor Orbán by Tucker Carlson
@ Pacfica Advocate | Aug 31 2023 1:47 utc | 161
interesting.. thanks.. we don’t have long to wait to see if there is any legitimacy to that!

Posted by: james | Aug 31 2023 1:55 utc | 163

As always, excellent work by b and Big Serge.
I believe the time is right to discussed “Organizational Breakdown” specifically military discipline and morale.
Consider the following, before the WW1 German Armies could be annihilated, entire formations mutinied. Fragging and collapse of US military discipline finished off the Vietnam War. US trained and armed Iraqi Army broke when ISIS showed up, ditto Afghan Army and the Talibans.
When (not if) the Russians decide to pick a point and focus concentrated fire and force, the bough will break.
As a humorous side note, Big Serge included a link to Dreizin Report. The comments policy at this site is LOL. I suspect he must have wandered into a MoA bar at some stage and went WTF!!!!
Barflies will recognize all the usual suspects.
A preview :
“and while it may amuse you, most readers have no interest in your thoughts on the Punic wars, or on some guy named Serge”, and “spewing toxic diarrhea that no one else wants to smell“? Nazis, commies, worshipful groupies of Mercouris/Johnson/etc., Jew baiters/haters, FBI agents-provocateurs, guys who forgot to take their Ritalin, passive-aggressive needling of the sysop or of other commenters (to include, by dipshits….. ”
Told you, LOL!

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 31 2023 2:00 utc | 164

Lavrov’s dog 24
USUKIS are in the habit of using nuclear weapons like a hostage-taker uses a gun to protect themselves, pretending that the nukes qre entirely peaceful and non-threatening, passive-aggressive.
Such behaviour would be wasiky recognised on screen as 100% psychotic madness. There are many things in modern life which because of equal opportunities it’s impolite to point out, your adversaries’ psychotic violence being one of them.
But Hey-Ho, just part of life’s rich kaleidoscope. I don’t mind my identity being stolen and sold by my employers or having a nuclear gun held to my head by psychopaths. North Korea has the correct response.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 31 2023 2:15 utc | 165

Posted by: james | Aug 31 2023 1:55 utc | 164
Thanks man. For some reason it’s not loading the page. Is there a written transcript there.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 31 2023 2:15 utc | 166

One the many of us might agree on that militarily, Ukraine is done for. More dead bodies, wasted weapons, wasted money’s, but, militarily the end is in sight.
The propaganda war, as this discourse alone has shown us, has a long way to go. To some of us, some things are more obvious than others. MSM gets its money and so do the politicians.
The Tet offensive was not designed to be a military success. It sure succeeded in its propaganda objectives. NYT today seems to be taking a lesson, starting the fence sitting, being the voice of the CIA. WaPo, for DoS is looking for a fence to straddle.
This will take a while.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Aug 31 2023 2:18 utc | 167

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 31 2023 2:15 utc | 167
its a hungary website of the gov’t, but it is working and in english, if you can get it to load.. hopefully it eventually loads for you.

Posted by: james | Aug 31 2023 2:21 utc | 168

and yes – full transcript..

Posted by: james | Aug 31 2023 2:24 utc | 169

@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 30 2023 14:35 utc | 31
The central powers could not have held out for years more. Their population was starving and on the very edge of famine. A future that is in store for Ukraine as the citizens of their donor countries start to rebel. As to the starvation of the German people, I was told it first hand by my grandfather who was a member of the allied occupation forces in 1918/19.

Posted by: Raumati | Aug 31 2023 2:40 utc | 170

ChasMark and Steven, @ 6 & 7
I would not even waste time opening the New Yorker.
It used to be a decent rag. I subscribed to TNY for many, many years. Then David Remick took over.
Now it’s completely suffocated by Wokism, and the politics are “Manhattan neocon/neoliberal.” Basically in lockstep with the NYT.
Now even the cartoons are not funny anymore.
Remick also is a total Zionist.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 31 2023 2:55 utc | 171

James @156
“my thinking is similar to the poster @ 144… russia is going to have to confront the west in some type of asymmetrical response with plausible deniability… i think this is coming.. how can it not?”
James I believe the asymmetrical responses by the Russia and it’s assets have been ongoing throughout the conflict, but the key here is they give the west plausible deniability in places such as Africa/Syria/etc. It’s the reason why the west pulled out of Afghanistan as that would have quickly turned into a bloodbath if the Taliban had gained access to even a small sliver of what has been pumped into Ukraine.
The place we are quickly coming to is where Russia and not just Putin will have no option but to respond in a direct way if any more strategic assets are destroyed by Western factions. I suspect the response will be cleared with Washington and Russian partners shortly before it is carried out and it will be against non manned platforms/non manned equipment in order to give Washington/NATO an offramp to take if they wish to do so, much like Iran bombed that base in Iraq with accurate ballistic missile technology as a show of force but informed the US it was going to do so via back channels, notice how after that real live demonstration the zeal for attacking Iran dissipated rather quickly even to this day, a bluff was called and Washington folded.
The Russians will be forced to do the same in the near future most likely in the Black Sea against ISR platforms over neutral airspace/waters. I can almost guarantee that the unofficial back channels between US and Russia have been busy since that airbase attack with Washington assuring the Russians it was an unauthorized and unacceptable attack, however it’s not that simple to simply wipe away the loss of IL-76s even for Putin, these are strategic and he risks losing credibility with his own military if he doesn’t take action to stop these attacks. It is not possible for Russia to secure every airbase against drone swarms/asymmetrical attacks, it’s borders/land must be respected militarily or he risks losing strategic assets.
I do believe that this was most likely an unauthorized attack by a rouge western faction and not authorized by official Washington/Pentagon/Biden. This type of stuff is dangerous as hardline elements of the Russian military can also force his hand via a false flag due to the history of these Western attacks.
This is much different than drones causing superficial damage to buildings in Moscow, again a reckless and dangerous attack.

Posted by: silverdogtalks148 | Aug 31 2023 3:05 utc | 172

Good, useful analysis. We should frame the question of negotiations in the Ukraine war carefully. The evidence shows the US/NATO provoked the conflict. It’s one thing for Russia to call for negotiations, but for those outside the conflict zone, I submit, the only principled cry is “US/NATO Out Now! Not one, dollar, bomb or bullet for the US Proxy War!” See The US Has no Right to Negotiate Anything in Ukraine for more.
Posted by: BruceLesnick | Aug 30 2023 20:12 utc | 106
Bruce, totally agree. The US has no standing to negotiate an end to the conflict because it violated the sovereignty of Ukraine when it interfered in its internal affairs. Supporting US negotiation just gives credibility to the US and supports this false narrative that the US is just an innocent bystander that came to Ukraine’s rescue with aid packages. Saying ‘US/NATO out now’ identifies the real culprit in this war.

Posted by: Mike R | Aug 31 2023 3:34 utc | 173

Does anyone happen to know if there’s a transcript of the Tucker Carlson Viktor Orban interview?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 31 2023 1:36 utc | 158

Your wish is my command ….. HERE ‘TIS 🙂
https://abouthungary.hu/speeches-and-remarks/interview-with-viktor-orban-by-tucker-carlson

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Aug 31 2023 3:42 utc | 174

Re: Posted by: pyrrhus | Aug 30 2023 15:44 utc | 47

“Drooling morons” is about right..But this disaster was started by the same level of people who started WW1, a mega disaster which bankrupted Britain and France (and the US) and made the end of Britain’s empire inevitable…

World War I bankrupted the US you say?
No – it bankrupted the large European powers – UK, France & Germany and allowed Wall St to lend the money for reconstruction of Europe in the 1920s
Haven’t you ever heard of the Dawes Plan? August 1924?
World War I set up the American Century & US dominance – it certainly didn’t ‘bankrupt’ the US.

Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2023 3:46 utc | 175

@ silverdogtalks148 | Aug 31 2023 3:05 utc | 173
thanks for the additional insights.. i don’t know how it plays out, but all of it is increasingly concerning for a number of reasons..
here is simplicius’s latest for you or anyone else.. he immediately touches on the IL-76 hit..
SITREP 8/30/23: Ukraine Smokescreens Failures With Meaningless Deep-strikes

Posted by: james | Aug 31 2023 4:14 utc | 176

“Also a good read is:
The Case for Negotiating with Russia – The New Yorker”
That was not a good read. That was an excessively long propaganda article filled with western made-up lies and nazi whitewashing, along with portraying Russia as the new Nazi Germany and Putin the new Hitler.
If this is still the situation in western genocidal empire’s main stream media (aka propaganda machine), then Ukraine is doomed.
They are still repeating these lies:
– Ukraine is a democracy;
– there are no Nazis;
– Ukraine didn’t start the war;
– peace is not fair;
– NATO is pure and good;
– USA is only good intentions;
– a guy from RAND (Pentagon) has a “neutral” opinion;
– Bucha happened the way Zelensky said;
– Putin wants to invade Poland;
– Putin made bad things against Syria, and USA/NATO didn’t support Al-Qaeda;
– Russia was the one starting the war;
– NATO’s expansion against Russian borders is a divine right;
– the will of the people in Donbass and Crimea doesn’t matter at all;
– everyone in Ukraine supports this war, this regime, and its goals;
– only people in Russia live in a bad regime with propaganda;
– Ukraine is a saint, only Russia commits war crimes;
– the Minsk peace was a mistake;
– Moldova is next, we’re not the ones attacking the people of Transnistria and Gagauzia and imposing NATO in a country where the majority is against it;
– sanctions are good and legal;
They even talk about the “siege of Kherson” won by Ukraine. WHAT THE FU..!! What siege? Surovikhin made the decision to get out of the west bank, and in 24h Russia made an organized exit without a fight, because UkraNazis were shelling the only bridge (and later a pontoon) where civilians had to cross to reach Kherson, there was a change for UkraNazis to finish the job (as they did) at the Nova Kakhova dam, and these 2 problems made the Russian presence in the Western Bank of Kherson’s oblast a too high risk while the Donbass fight is taking place.
This is the summary of that New Yorker article: Ukrainian lies and USA propaganda. Any talk about “peace” was just a trap to justify the repetition of all those lies and reinforce the emotional manipulation of brainwashed westerners. It was not a “good read”. It was terrible!

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Aug 31 2023 4:14 utc | 177

pxx / 13

spends more time arguing against negotiation than for it.

“The Case for Negotiating with Russia”
By Keith A. Gessen. A Russian-born American novelist, journalist, and literary translator… A sibling of Masha Gessen…

Posted by: Nomad | Aug 31 2023 4:27 utc | 178

Posted by: cirsium | Aug 30 2023 20:06 utc | 105
is it not more likely that the CIA arranged for the assassination of the Wagner leaders, Prigozhin, Utkin and the second in command?
I have no idea. But I would exclude the Russian services doing it this way at that point in time. Even simply doing it this way, killing innocent pilot and hostess. Even doing it, destroying one of their most valuable assets.
Anyway, what Aldo was suggesting was that the enemies of the Russian state were behind the assassination. Not the state. Again he was saying that is only his unproven view.

Posted by: Stephane | Aug 31 2023 5:06 utc | 179

Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 31 2023 0:36 utc | 151
When was America not a full-fledged Banana Republic?

Posted by: Colin | Aug 31 2023 5:13 utc | 180

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 31 2023 0:30 utc | 150 “Musk’s Skylink was the popular AFU comms for all while, but then RF jammed it and he pulled it “for military use””
Musk did not “pull” Starlink for “military use” and the Russian’s have not jammed it except for in some locations near the front some of the time.
Musk appears to have geofenced it’s use by Ukraine registered units somewhat behind Russian lines and inside the 1991 borders of Russia. They have also taken out of service units that Ukraine has said have fallen into Russian hands.
THe US has also been buying Starlink terminals for Ukrainian use and those terminals have a different set of geofencing rules.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-01/musk-s-spacex-wins-pentagon-deal-for-its-starlink-in-ukraine#xj4y7vzkg

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 31 2023 5:33 utc | 181

Posted by: James j | Aug 30 2023 13:47 utc | 20
What the newyorker piece forgot was the rise of nazguls in ukraine, minsk 1 and 2, and the 8 years of cannon fire on the civilian population of donets.
Exactly.

Posted by: Alchemist | Aug 31 2023 5:43 utc | 182

b You post a lot of links to mainstream media that have paywalls. I don’t buy so I don’t have access…don’t want it. Is this part of your business model?

Posted by: Simon | Aug 31 2023 5:49 utc | 183

A friend is worried about the escalatory potential of the drone strikes in Russia, some story today apparently on NPR. I see no word of it in my usual places like here, old news perhaps?

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Aug 31 2023 6:37 utc | 184

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 30 2023 18:37 utc | 76

How does Russia defeat the US and its vassals so they know they lost? How can he hurt them so bad, without a nuclear holocaust?

Russia wins this one by taking the whole of Ukraine or nearly all of it.
There is ZERO risk of nukes flying.
The USA + groupies don’t have the stomach.

How does he create a security architecture that won’t be ignored at the first opportunity?

Self-contradictory question. Effective security architectures cannot be ignored.

How does he neutralize ukraine without dealing with people who hate Russia with a deadly passion, or going broke trying to make Ukrainians prosper without them trying to steal everything?

In the same way that Japan and Germany were turned into happy vassals after losing WWII in spite of being fanatical and suicidal before their defeat.
In the same way that Chechens turned into most loyal Russians despite being fanatical and suicidal before their defeat.
Thoroughly defeated peoples tend to be very cooperative fellows.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 31 2023 7:23 utc | 185

What if Ukraine stats attacking Russia from NATO countries (Estonia, Poland Finland…)?
Would Russia dare to respond to that?

Posted by: simplex | Aug 31 2023 7:23 utc | 186

Posted by: silverdogtalks148 | Aug 31 2023 3:05 utc | 173
What drone strikes both in Russia and Ukraine teach us re. air defense is that high altitude and long range missile defense is not enough. Drones can fly very low, sneak around defenses which can’t see at low altitude very far, even AWACS might not pick up low flying objects.
The message is if you really want to protect something even in far rear areas, you need point defenses, like Phalanx or Pantsir or OSA system, very rapid fire and quick aim. There are too many potential targets and too few point defense, a problem that will never go away.
It is bad for Russia, but luckily even worse for Ukraine and Nato.
The bad thing is, there are few if none targets inside Ukraine itself which is worthy reply for destroying strategic airlift capacity in Russia. I’d expect an equivalent response in UK airbase, since MI6 is up to its eye balls in these attacks.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 31 2023 7:23 utc | 187

Posted by: zeke2u | Aug 30 2023 17:15 utc | 59

Russia will never be forgiven for giving birth to the Soviets, where for the first time in history the masses had seized and held state power – the historic nightmare of the ruling class.

That certainly didn’t make many friends amongst USA elites and its Euro and Asian groupies, BUT, it’s totally irrelevant right now, when Russia also has an economic system that respects private property and encourage capital formation (i.e. Russia is capitalist), and it is not supporting Marxist groups in LatAm, Africa or Asia.
Today, the USA+groupies have Russia as enemy simply because Russia has the capacity to destroy them in a comprehensive manner. If Paraguay had thousand nuclear heads and the best means to deliver them across the Globe, then it would be Paraguay.
USA+groupies are completely rational in trying to weaken Russia when you understand that USA+groupies think of themselves as hegemonic. Hegemons do not tolerate equals.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 31 2023 7:42 utc | 188

U.K. Defence minister Ben ‘Full Tonto’ Wallace met his Waterloo and has exited.
Another one who failed to take down not only Russia but also Putin, Lavrov or his counterpart Shoigu.
Bunch of clowns admitting they ****** up by running away with tails between their legs.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 31 2023 7:45 utc | 189

What would be the effective defense against small cardboard drones?
Radars cannot see them.
They have to be noticed visually.

Posted by: simplex | Aug 31 2023 8:11 utc | 190

The prank call from last year tells you everything you need to know about Benny. As the news say that US will put nukes and troops in UK in a few months, there is simply no need for dumb Benny anymore.

Posted by: rk | Aug 31 2023 8:13 utc | 191

To Dr. George W Oprisko | Aug 31 2023 0:22 utc | 146
Hey, fuck you Oprisko. Do not alter and then requote in italics words people did not say. It is basal LYING and blatant deceit to bolster your own propoganda. Thank god the posts in this forum are not editable. You are the kind of sleaseball who would be changing your statements *after* the fact to save face and gaslight other readers.
My #139 and your false replication of it in your #146 is misrepresentation of the highest order.
To all: This man is a blatant liar, pure and simple. Not to mention a deluded sicko.

Posted by: SCCC | Aug 31 2023 8:29 utc | 192

https://news.sky.com/story/ben-wallace-resigns-as-defence-secretary-read-his-letter-in-full-12951252
Another sign that it’s heading for the end game.

Posted by: Scot1and | Aug 31 2023 8:37 utc | 193

What would be the effective defense against small cardboard drones?
Radars cannot see them. They have to be noticed visually.
Posted by: simplex | Aug 31 2023 8:11 utc | 191
False. Radars see everything, even tiny birds. Infrared and acoustic also works and Russia already has such detectors for drones or artillery, like Penicillin. Or cover the planes with something like any normal person would do after almost two years of Engels repeating.
All airports were hit by different drones, from Soviet types to nato types. The problem isn’t the drones, it’s in the low quality of the commanders and generals, it’s in the management. The people responsible with the budget should also be fired or in jail. in 2023 they only have small slingshot drones, good for the front line. No finished long range surveillance or attack drones, only some prototypes. But they put money on the moon thingy which has a very high risk of failure anyway and is completely useless.

Posted by: rk | Aug 31 2023 8:48 utc | 194

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Aug 31 2023 2:18 utc 168
“NYT today seems to be taking a lesson, starting the fence sitting, being the voice of the CIA. WaPo, for DoS is looking for a fence to straddle.”
From what I understand, from an American colleague whom is well connected, if you know what I mean, Wapo is controlled by the CTA and NYT is dominated by the US foreign office.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 31 2023 8:50 utc | 195

Posted by: Scot1and | Aug 31 2023 8:37 utc | 194
Funny, Ukraine defense minister Reznikov also resigned.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 31 2023 8:52 utc | 196

The BBC reports that Grant Shapps is appointed the UK Secretary of State for Defence
The BBC comments:
…”This is Grant Shapps’s fifth cabinet job in less than a year. Even by the wild standards of the last year in Westminster, that is quite something”…
Another ‘lightweight’ to embarrass us.

Posted by: Engineer-John | Aug 31 2023 8:53 utc | 197

More on ‘Full Tonto’ Wallace U.K. defence minister sudden departure?
Perhaps he didn’t like being put in the frame for a direct attack by nato on Pskov or he did it and is forced to go? Perhaps he is being readied to replace Sunak (who can’t be left in place – wrong colour on the outside!)
‘ ❗️According to Turkish reports:
the attack on Pskov from Estonia was planned by the British, with the involvement of seconded specialists from the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.
Intelligence support was organized by the Americans using satellite reconnaissance and reconnaissance aircraft, as well as Estonian based electronic warfare systems, as well as warships
**
🇮🇹The Italian frigate F597 Antonio Marceglia of the FREMM class has left Helsinki. The ship allegedly also provided support for the attack in Pskov’
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/40740
It seems some f***wits have decided to press the red button to force natzos to attack Russia directly. I’m with the theory Kallas has been equally forced, with the revelation of her husbands continuing business deals in Russia.
Seems like a replay of the NS pipeline provocation.
Along with CIA type coup in Gabon – the last day of August. The full blue moon weekend will be long ! Monday might not come as expected.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 31 2023 8:55 utc | 198

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 31 2023 8:55 utc | 199
You’re argument is logical, we can be sure the Kallas leaks didn’t pop up by accident. MI6 knows everything about any politician in power in any EU state, which can be used as leverage at any point in time, and they can pretty much do anything they want in the Baltic states territory. I assume that British government and/or intelligence is trying hard to expand war into the Baltic.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 31 2023 9:02 utc | 199

“More on ‘Full Tonto’ Wallace U.K. defence minister sudden departure?
Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 31 2023 8:55 utc | 199”
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Wallace’s departure as UK Secretary of Defence was flagged up some weeks ago

Posted by: Engineer-John | Aug 31 2023 9:04 utc | 200