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July 31, 2023
Ukrainian Soldiers Tell Of High Losses For Little Gains

Yesterday I linked to a fresh NY Times piece about the horrors of the war in Ukraine.

It has a somewhat uplifting headline and the first few paragraphs describe an Ukrainian 'success'.

Amid the Counterattack’s Deadly Slog, a Glimmer of Success for Ukraine
Recapturing the village of Staromaiorske was such welcome news for the country that President Volodymyr Zelensky announced it himself. But formidable Russian defenses have stymied progress elsewhere.

The piece is accompanied by this staged photo which shows some trashed uniform on a dirt road with two boots put next to it.


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The line below the picture, which I strongly believe is false, says:

The body of a Russian soldier outside a village in the Zaporizhzhia region of southern Ukraine this month.
Credit… Tyler Hicks/The New York Times

I wonder what the editors thought when they came up with it.

Now onto the first paragraphs of the report:

For 10 days, Ukrainian marines fought street by street and house by house to recapture the southeastern village of Staromaiorske, navigating artillery fire, airstrikes and hundreds of Russian troops.

The Russians put up a ferocious defense but that ended on Thursday when they folded and the Ukrainians claimed victory. “Some ran away, some were left behind,” said an assault commander from Ukraine’s 35th Marine Brigade, who uses the call sign Dikyi, which means Wild. “We were taking captives,” he added.

The recapture of Staromaiorske, a small village that is nonetheless critical to Ukraine’s southern strategy, was such a welcome development for Ukraine that President Volodymyr Zelensky announced it himself.

I have bad news for the NY Times readers. The village Staromaiorske (Staromayorskoye in Russian writing) is no longer in Ukrainian hands but in the gray-zone:

Tony @Cyberspec1 – 22:00 UTC · Jul 30, 2023

❗️Despite the fact that [Donetsk leader] Pushilin announced the recapture of Staromayorsk, our troops are absent from the village itself. The enemy is knocked out, but there is nowhere to gain a safe foothold.

Russian troops periodically enter the village to organize ambushes. Yesterday, several AFU soldiers were taken prisoner in this way.

There is also video of Russian artillery bombarding the village.

Staromajorske (at the bottom of the map) on June 04 2023

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Staromajorske on July 31 2023

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Satellite picture of Staromajorske

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After two months of 'counter offensive' the frontline south of Velyka Novosilka has moved only some six kilometers south of the original frontline. Starmajorske consist of about 200 houses. Like the other four small villages along the way it has largely been destroyed.

This was not a 'counter offensive' but a bloody slog with mediocre results.

The NY Times piece is by Charlotta Gall who at times writes realistic reports from the ground in Ukraine.

After the uplifting start of her piece the reporting becomes grim:

As officials celebrated Ukraine’s progress in Staromaiorske, troops elsewhere on the ground said that Russian defenses and firepower remained formidable and in places impassable.

A soldier at a medical post, awaiting evacuation for a concussion, recently described how his battalion had been decimated when it came under Russian artillery and tank fire. His brigade, the 23rd, was one of nine newly formed, Western-trained units prepared and equipped for the counteroffensive. But the brigade, he said, had been thrown into the fight without sufficient artillery support and had been unable to defend themselves against Russian firepower.

In one battle in which his unit took part, Ukrainian soldiers attacked in 10 American-made MaxxPro armored vehicles, but only one came back, he said. He showed photographs of the damaged vehicles, ripped open and burned out, which he said had been hauled back to a repair base. The soldier declined to give his name for fear of getting into trouble with his superiors.

The soldier lost a 22-year-old friend, Stas, in the shelling the day before, he said, adding that in just over a month, his battalion had suffered so many dead and wounded that only 10 men remained at the front line.

Previously that battalion has had some 400 to 500 men.

Next Gall speaks to a soldier from a different unit:

Another soldier, who joined up last year and asked to be identified only by his first name, Oleksiy, said that his unit had taken heavy losses as Russian troops directed artillery fire and aerial bombs onto their positions.

“We were shot like on a shooting range,” he said. “A drone was flying above us and correcting the artillery fire.” Their positions were in former Russian positions, hemmed in by minefields, he said, and the Russian forces were able to keep them pinned down and under constant drone surveillance.

Soldiers were running out of ammunition and water but could only sneak in and out of their positions in ones or twos, on foot, when the light was poor just before dawn and at dusk, he said.

And a third case:

Interviews with Ukrainian soldiers and a review of military surveillance footage from a recent attack indicate that many Ukrainian units are sustaining heavy losses.

A group with special operations training, deployed last month to storm Russian positions in a village on the western part of the front, took such heavy casualties in four days of assaults that they had to pull out without success.

After their armored vehicles were largely destroyed by artillery strikes on the first day, they revised their plan to approach the village on foot through a tree line that had been mined. The Ukrainians cleared a narrow path with demining explosives and the first soldiers reached the Russian positions and dropped down into a trench.

Drone footage of the event showed what happened next. Explosions suddenly detonated inside the trenches and other strikes hit soldiers on the edge of the tree line. The video footage has been verified by The New York Times.

“The trenches were mined,” said the assault commander, who uses the call sign Voskres, short for Resurrection. “Our guys started jumping in the trenches and blowing up,” he added. The Russian forces were watching, and they remotely detonated the mines, he said.

Those who managed to avoid the mines came under attack from multiple Russian kamikaze drones. “It seemed like they had a drone for each person,” he said. “The amount of equipment the Russians have, had we known, it was like mission impossible.

Several weeks later, the village remains in Russian hands.

Since the Ukrainian 'counter-offensive' was launched the Russian Defense Ministry has reported on average 710 Ukrainian casualties per day.

The U.S., and its Ukrainian proxy, have sent these soldiers into battle knowing well that the 'counter offensive' would have no chance to win anything.

As the Wall Street Journal wrote a week ago:

When Ukraine launched its big counteroffensive this spring, Western military officials knew Kyiv didn’t have all the training or weapons—from shells to warplanes—that it needed to dislodge Russian forces. But they hoped Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness would carry the day.

They haven’t. …

Largely untrained draftees with mediocre equipment and without sufficient artillery and air-support were willfully pushed into a fight they had no chance to win or even survive.

It was a cruel policy. Those who pushed them, and in fact anyone with military training and knowledge of military history, had known that all along.

Comments

The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) have suffered heavy losses since the beginning of their recent offensive on June 4th.
But they are still highly motivated to die.
Is that not strange?
Posted by: Simplex | Aug 1 2023 14:07 utc | 185

One word: captagon.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 1 2023 17:50 utc | 201

If today’s NYT had reported on the first day of the Battle of The Somme
Dateline: July 1, 1916
“Amidst unprecedented carnage, a glimmer of hope for England”

Posted by: Callmelennie | Aug 1 2023 17:58 utc | 202

I haven’t found any media reports confirming that Ukraine had been pushed out of Staromaiorske. Just this tweet. In contrast to consistent reports for days of steady Ukrainian progress, which this website tries to paint as “mediocre” and apparently was too reluctant to discuss for the past three days. Media reports on the harsh conditions of the frontlines have been noted here before, but I wonder if those articles are not reporting typical conditions seen in previous wars in a tone meant to scare a populace too divorced from the realities of warfare due to the lack of a draft. And the WSJ is owned by Rupert Murdoch, one of the loudest voices of the right wing in the West. Others have ardently denied this assertion, but in the US, opposition to aid for Ukraine grows increasingly associated with right wing extremism.
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 31 2023 15:30 utc | 4
I was able to find reports to that effect. Of course not in Bild etc…
Your post sounds like Ukrainian catcalling, as you regret that MOA is not a Ukrainian propaganda site. Most here are more concerned with facts, not Ukraine’s “successes”.
By the way, with what sources can you prove them?
I also don’t understand that someone visits a bar and finds it shitty.
But the topics you want are in the mainstream.
And whom should Bernd’s articles frighten? The clueless? This is a bar and not a church. Although, the church scares/warns about the devil, hell, condoms…
So stop scaring Bernd with your advantage-rope obedience to subjects with subtle references to the authorities!
@Bar
Sorry for replying to the amateur

Posted by: 600w | Aug 1 2023 18:46 utc | 203

Possibilities…
Scott Ritter has worked in the intelligence area, and according to him, anybody who has been held by the enemy and then released should not be regarded as reliable. It is an automictic red flag.

Posted by: Jmaas | Aug 1 2023 19:40 utc | 204

Jmaas@194…..wtf….sides, what side is he on, I suggest you find his first two or three vids from Kiev and listen, listen very closely……it’s glaringly obvious….he hates fucking war, me too, been there done that, pass. He’s on the side of life, the side of peace, the side of love…….empathy and compassion listen to his voice, intonation……you can’t fake that, you can’t act that…..that is real.
……sometimes, thing are what they are.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 1 2023 19:55 utc | 205

I see the reminder that flying airplanes into civilian buildings on 911 differs in no way from what Ukraine’s been trying to do in Moscow has finally gained a response from the UN as RT reports:

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres’ office has condemned a series of drone attacks on Moscow and called for an end to “any and all attacks on civilian facilities.” Russia has blamed the “terrorist strikes” on Ukraine, and Kiev has heavily suggested that it was responsible.
“We are against any and all attacks on civilian facilities and we want them to stop,” Guterres’ deputy spokesman, Farhan Haq, told reporters on Monday.
Haq spoke a day after multiple unmanned airborne vehicles (UAVs) were intercepted over Moscow’s financial district, with debris from the downed craft damaging two skyscrapers and injuring one person.

Not just Kiev being responsible as we have accusations that the Outlaw US Empire and its deputy the UK were deeply involved in the planning and execution of these terrorist attacks.
So, should Russia take a page from the Empire’s playbook at launch retaliation strikes at Washington and London? Or should it wipe out the Imperialist terrorists inside Syria stealing its resources? Or perhaps do all three?

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 1 2023 20:10 utc | 206

Ref Malenkov, #201
https://www.drugs.com/lifestyle/captagon-available-2961377/

Posted by: Taras 77 | Aug 1 2023 20:11 utc | 207

Re: Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 1 2023 15:27 utc | 196
I have an opinion…Spook asset…The End
Read his history instead of his book, people show you who they are. “I’m about to cross the Border”… VIDEO!! Sheesh… Seriously?

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 1 2023 22:49 utc | 208

Scorpion @ 196
Vicki hates his guts. And GL talks to people who have direct knowledge of this. The sphere in which he moves.

Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 1 2023 23:08 utc | 209

Some videos for today.
The Kiev regime’s military had losses of 20,800 KIA in the month of July:
https://odysee.com/@SputnikInternational:c/IMG_5595:8
Russian Lancets destroy NATO-supplied Iris-T air defense system and M777 howitzer:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-08-01_12-24-04:7
Russian forces destroy more US-supplied Bradley infantry fighting vehicles:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/4869538712192:8
Russian drone strikes enemy position:
https://rutube.ru/video/ae2489a1c0a5da49630ae89e2daa5003/
Russian thermobaric TOS-1A system in action:
https://rutube.ru/video/c3d43600a2fb482a73eb484ed18fa5a4/

Posted by: Nate | Aug 2 2023 0:22 utc | 210

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 1 2023 15:27 utc | 196
I can’t choose between door number one and door number two. I don’t choose door number three.
But I think your book deal idea is right.

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 2 2023 0:48 utc | 211

In the latest from Simplicius he mentions a source that uses a computer program to search for mentions in Ukraine of military-related burials, and up to a week ago it has counted 284,000 dead. Add in the irretrievably injured and you are probably up to about 600,000. Then add the missing (lying dead in fields and taken prisoner) and you probably get at least 700,000. On top of that you will have many, many other soldiers suffering from severe fatigue, PTSD and other mental issues, retrievable injuries, infections etc. Such figures are horrific, and the current Ukrainian offensive is only accelerating the losses of men and Western equipment.
The Ukrainian mobile operators are losing 5,500 SIM cards per week, with 1.2 SIM cards per person. Even assuming many have been just lost, this is a good proxy for the scale of Ukrainian losses in the current offensive. They were also losing 100 tanks a month, with those losses escalating during the offensive, and only have a few hundred left.
Simplicius mentions the Ukrainians need a Minsk 3 to rebuild their forces. Hopefully it will be 3rd time unlucky for them with Putin and the Russians will push their advantage than throw away their victory at the negotiating table.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-8123-the-hegemon-begins-to?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1351274&post_id=135535129&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

Posted by: Roger | Aug 2 2023 4:50 utc | 212

Gonzalo Lira — Again flees Ukraine after paying off SBU using PayPal..(or something like that and getting some ‘favors’) https://www.youtube.com/@gonzalolira0229/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW274f8s-ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuvY9l0ShhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jUa45UcOvE&t=66s
Covid hoax/genocide ..update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p0c_mW79A
Conclusion.. Ukraine is mindlessly corrupt.. cigarettes, Captagon(1) and alcohol makes life a real day to day existence..
[(1); https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenethylline ]
Bonus from the past;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFmIQorrk8o

Posted by: T S | Aug 2 2023 5:22 utc | 213

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 1 2023 17:50 utc | 201
I think that you do not need drugs. Read the story of WWI or of pilots in WWII. The death rate was enormous. They knew most of them would die. It is a bit the same as gang wars. The lads know that they may/will be killed, but the bravado/idiocy/courage/peer following of young men seems often to lead to mass slaughter. Like lemmings over a cliff.
It has been always the same. Maybe it is some sort of primitive herd based population control instinct.

Posted by: watcher | Aug 2 2023 5:43 utc | 214

… Russian Lancets destroy NATO-supplied Iris-T air defense system …
Posted by: Nate | Aug 2 2023 0:22 utc | 210

Another way to look at events like this is that they reveal how wilfully inept is this counteroffensive / self-massacre. How is it those systems are unprotected so close to the front as to be hit by Lancet?
These newer western AD systems are rare and extremely expensive, even in the best case it’ll take ages just to replace them with newly manufactured examples of the same systems, let alone the time and cost to develop anything better (an R&D effort that might never be successful).
The manufacturers’ll be happy enough so long as the procurement process is so corrupted their products will be purchased anyway. Or perhaps this is another example (like Leopard vs Abrams) of US MIC putting competitor products in a situation that will undermine the reputation of those products.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 2 2023 6:55 utc | 215

Seems like Gonzalo didn’t make it to Hungary:

Gonzalo Lira Was ‘Stopped On The Ukrainian Side of The Border From Crossing And Has Since Disappeared,’ Friend Says
“>https://en-volve.com/2023/08/02/gonzalo-lira-was-stopped-on-the-ukrainian-side-of-the-border-from-crossing-and-has-since-disappeared-friend-says/

Posted by: Apollyon | Aug 2 2023 8:01 utc | 216

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 1 2023 17:50 utc | 201

but they are still highly motivated to die. Is that not strange?
Posted by: Simplex | Aug 1 2023 14:07 utc | 185
One word: captagon.

Also: “we know who your children are and where they live …”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 2 2023 8:08 utc | 217

@Apollyon | Aug 2 2023 8:01 utc | 216
fixed your link (your link included a blockquote end tag)
https://en-volve.com/2023/08/02/gonzalo-lira-was-stopped-on-the-ukrainian-side-of-the-border-from-crossing-and-has-since-disappeared-friend-says/
If true, this appears to be the worst possible development for Gonzalo.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 2 2023 8:52 utc | 218

“fixed your link”
Oops, thank you. 🙂

Posted by: Apollyon | Aug 2 2023 9:18 utc | 219

Artyomovsk direction, southern flank.
Our Army conducted a series of counterattacks yesterday to the north and west of Klescheevka, successfully repulsing part of the enemy’s positions. The enemy retreated without much resistance.
Furthermore, in response to the enemy’s use of cluster munitions, our forces have also started employing cluster munitions, including cluster bombs. Consequently, the enemy is suffering significant losses and is unable to advance.
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1686665029653835776

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 2 2023 9:20 utc | 220

Sanctions have failed to take down Russia.
The battlefield in Ukraine is failing to take down Russia.
This leaves fewer options for the West to take down Russia.
The options that are left are much more dangerous for the West.
But the West has no choice but to continue to escalate in order to take Russia down. If it does not take Russia down, the USA will quickly lose the world reserve currency status of the USA.

Posted by: young | Aug 2 2023 11:11 utc | 221

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/talking-to-russia-five-things-you-wont-believe-are-being-said-behind-closed-doors/
US secretly agrees to everything on Ukraine except regime change. Putin has to go. So, a scam by the US. If they got rid of Putin, the US will bribe and extort everyone else into breaking down Russia into submision. After that, they can go for China

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 2 2023 13:21 utc | 222

Sounds like Gonzalo was detained on the Ukrainian side of the border, has not been heard from for 24hrs, hopefully his PayPal still works and he can buy his way out. How would one split the proceeds from a sting……hmmm….I’d take half at the departure point $70,000, all in a days work, then have the other half taken at the exit point…..sure hope he gets out.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 2 2023 13:25 utc | 223

http://avia.pro/news/totalnaya-mobilizaciya-v-verhovnoy-rade-ukrainy-zayavili-o-podgotovke-k-posledney-mobilizacii
Wollt Ihr Den Totalen Krieg?
How much value does this add?

Posted by: Catilina | Aug 2 2023 14:44 utc | 224

William Gibson — ‘The future is already here – it’s just not evenly distributed’
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/74148

🇷🇺💥🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ After a massive attack by drones, the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being worked out by Russian aviation✈️.
In the Kherson region, hangars with equipment and ammunition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Beryslav are under attack. The aircraft of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation have been destroying the same objects in the morning behind Orekhovo and Malaya Tokmachka. Attempts by Ukrainian troops to regroup for a new attack in the Staromayorsky area are also being implemented with difficulty – the greater the accumulation of equipment, the faster Russian missiles begin to arrive there.
As a result, practically throughout the south, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are forced to split up troops into small groups. Without coordination and centralized command, the offensive slows down even more.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 2 2023 15:11 utc | 225

Face with this rapidly deteriorating situation, perhaps the best thing the Ukrainian forces could do is forge their own deal with the Russians for safe passage and march on Kiev themselves to bring this insanity to an end. The Russian Army did it in 1917, and it can happen in the Ukraine in 2023. The Ukrainian military leaders- as well as the rank and file and the Ukrainian public- have to know they’ve been played for fools by the US/NATO and I daresay they should see that those dubious benefactors do not have the Ukraine’s best interests in mind. As usual those at the top have profited greatly from this- as usual- while those on the bottom continue to pay the price in blood.

Posted by: John S | Aug 2 2023 23:42 utc | 226

203 – It actually took a couple of weeks for the huge British casualties to be apparent. Censorship etc. A British newspaper published a cartoon on July 2, 1916 showing the Western Front and the German lines as the Kaiser’s face, with a fist punching it in the Somme area to symbolise the offensive. Initial British reports claimed significant advances. The German version via Reuters admitted to some territorial losses in the southern part of the Somme, Montauban etc. but that most of their line held and huge losses were inflicted on the British. This account proved to be far more accurate than the British reports.

Posted by: Waldorf | Aug 8 2023 9:15 utc | 227