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July 18, 2023
Ukraine Sitrep – Reality Defeats The War Narrative

At the beginning of the war in Ukraine I pointed out that the false narrative of ‘Ukraine is winning’ which the ‘western’ propaganda steadily promoted would not win the real war on the ground.

As the war continued I made the point again and again.

In this week’s SCF column Alastair Crooke makes the same point in much more detail.

A Bonfire of the Vanities

Hubris consists in believing that a contrived narrative can, in and of itself, bring victory. It is a fantasy that has swept through the West – most emphatically since the 17th century. Recently, the Daily Telegraph published a ridiculous nine minute video purporting to show that ‘narratives win wars’, and that set-backs in the battlespace are incidentals: What matters is to have a thread of unitary narrative articulated, both vertically and horizontally, throughout the spectrum – from the special forces’ soldier in the field through to the pinnacle of the political apex.

The gist of it is that ‘we’ (the West) have compelling a narrative, whilst Russia’s is ‘clunky’ – ‘Us winning therefore, is inevitable’.

It is easy to scoff, but nonetheless we can recognise in it a certain substance (even if that substance is an invention). Narrative is now how western élites imagine the world.

The weakness to this new ‘liberal’ authoritarianism is that its key narrative myths can get busted. One just has; slowly, people begin to speak reality.

Ukraine: How do you win an unwinnable war? Well, the élite answer has been through narrative. By insisting against reality that Ukraine is winning, and Russia is ‘cracking’. But such hubris eventually is busted by facts on the ground. Even the western ruling classes can see their demand for a successful Ukrainian offensive has flopped. At the end, military facts are more powerful than political waffle: One side is destroyed, its many dead become the tragic ‘agency’ to upending dogma.

Even as reality seeps out the narrative of a ‘successful’ western battle tactics in form of combined arms warfare gets reinforced.

Ukraine aims to sap Russia’s defenses, as U.S. urges a decisive breakthroughWashington Post

Western officials and analysts say Ukraine’s military has so far embraced an attrition-based approach aimed largely at creating vulnerabilities in Russian lines by firing artillery and missiles at command, transport and logistics sites at the rear of the Russian position, instead of conducting what Western military officials call “combined arms” operations that involve coordinated maneuvers by large groups of tanks, armored vehicles, infantry, artillery and, sometimes, air power.

Ukraine’s military leaders argue that, lacking aviation might, they must avoid unnecessary losses against an adversary with a far larger pool of recruits and weaponry. To preserve manpower, Ukraine has fielded just four of a dozen trained brigades in the current campaign.

A new element in the narrative is that Ukraine is loosing because it does not use the glorious combined arms operations ‘western’ military told them to use.

Franz-Stefan Gady, from the British International Institute for Strategic Studies, has just been in Ukraine where he talked with Ukrainian soldiers and commanders at the frontline. In a Twitter thread he summarizes what he has seen but is strongly promoting the same narrative:

By and large this is an infantryman’s fight (squad, platoon & company level) supported by artillery along most of the frontline. This has several implications:
1st: Progress is measured by yards/meters and not km/miles given reduced mobility.
2nd: Mechanized formations are rarely deployed due to lack of enablers for maneuver. This includes insufficient quantities of de-mining equipment, air defenses, ATGMs etc.

2.) Ukrainian forces have still not mastered combined arms operations at scale. Operations are more sequential than synchronized. This creates various problems for the offense & IMO is the main cause for slow progress.

4.) Minefields are a problem as most observers know. They confine maneuver space & slow advances. But much more impactful than the minefields per se on Ukraine’s ability to break through Russian defenses is 🇺🇦s inability to conduct complex combined arms operations at scale.
Lack of a comprehensive combined arms approach at scale makes Ukrainian forces more vulnerable to Russian ATGMs, artillery etc. while advancing. So it’s not just about equipment. There’s simply no systematic pulling apart of the Russian defensive system that I could observe.

The narrative element is the same as in the Washington Post. That the Ukrainians are not using our vaunted combined arms operations is the reason for their failure.

The well synchronized New York Times piece is making the same point:

But that artillery-centric approach raises questions about whether Ukraine has lost confidence in the combined arms tactics — synchronized attacks by infantry, armor and artillery forces — that nine new brigades learned from American and other Western advisers in recent months. Western officials heralded the approach as more efficient than the costly strategy of wearing Russian forces down by attrition and depleting their ammunition stocks.

Senior U.S. officials in recent weeks had privately expressed frustration that some Ukrainian commanders, exasperated at the slow pace of the initial assault and fearing increased casualties among their ranks, had reverted to old habits — decades of Soviet-style training in artillery barrages — rather than sticking with the Western tactics and pressing harder to breach the Russian defenses.

However, the narrative is wrong.

The Ukrainian do not fear increased casualties. They did try combined arms warfare in the beginning of the counteroffensive in early June. After a few days of trying again and again they noted that the attacks failed with ever greater losses and were not sustainable. A third of the tanks and other material the ‘west’ had sent to Ukraine was destroyed in the attempts to use ‘fire and maneuver’ to break through Russian mine fields and defense lines.

Ukraine then returned to the current ‘mosquito tactics’ where small groups of infantry soldiers try to make small progress bit by bit. The likely loss of more tanks was thus replaced with the likely loss of more lives.

The narrative element that a combined arms attack would have more success is simply false.

As Crooke explains:

The hubris, at one level, lay in NATO’s pitting of its alleged ‘superior’ military doctrine and weapons versus that of a deprecated, Soviet-style, hide-bound, Russian military rigidity – and ‘incompetence’.

But military facts on the ground have exposed the western doctrine as hubris – with Ukrainian forces decimated, and its NATO weaponry lying in smoking ruins. It was NATO that insisted on re-enacting the Battle of 73 Easting (from the Iraqi desert, but now translated into Ukraine).

In Iraq, the ‘armoured fist’ punched easily into Iraqi tank formations: It was indeed a thrusting ‘fist’ that knocked the Iraqi opposition ‘for six’. But, as the U.S. commander at that tank battle (Colonel Macgregor), frankly admits, its outcome against a de-motivated opposition largely was fortuitous.

Nonetheless ‘73 Easting’ is a NATO myth, turned into the general doctrine for the Ukrainian forces – a doctrine structured around Iraq’s unique circumstance.

In the first year of the second world war the German Wehrmacht used combined arms warfare to wage its blitzkrieg against inferior adversaries. The tactic failed two years later when it tried to break through solid Soviet defense lines.

In the battle of 73 Easting the U.S. army could repeat blitzkrieg tactics because he had air superiority, well trained troops and better weapons. But the circumstance in Ukraine can not be compared to a mobile war in the desert.

The Black Sea grain deal has, as we expected, ended. The Ukraine reacted to this anticipated loss with a another successful attack on the Kerch bridge. Road traffic will be hindered or blocked for two or three months but the more important rail lines along the route are still intact.

As the grain deal was expected to fail, the Ukrainians may well have thought of breaking the blockade of its harbors by asking for more ships to come. But the Russia military has now used a large drone and missile attack to make sure that the facilities in Odessa and other Ukrainian Black Sea harbors can no longer be used to load or unload ships. It thus does not make sense for any ships to go there.

Over the last week the ground war in east Ukraine has further intensified. In the north of the eastern contact line the Russian army has launched its own attacks. In the center and south the Ukrainians still try to break through Russian defenses. But they are losing about 700 soldiers per day with little to show for the losses.

The Russian’s are again concentrating on the defeat of the Ukrainian artillery. Over the last five days they claimed to have destroyed 27 brigade level ammunition depots. Each of these should usually hold around 30 tons of shells and missiles. Thus such attacks add up. During those five days the Russians also claimed to have destroyed some 66 Ukrainian artillery pieces. It is race of what will be completely lost first, the ammunition the Ukrainian’s can use or the guns that are needed to fire it.

But some Ukrainians still insist on continuing the senseless fight.

War Monitor @WarMonitors – 10:38 UTC · Jul 18, 2023

⚡️“Returning Bakhmut is a matter of honour. We have lost many of our brothers there, we simply must recapture it”— Syrsky during a BBC interview

The way too emotional interview quote is not in the writeup of the BBC interview but I still have not seen a video of it.

That Ukraine has already lost many soldiers in Bakhmut should certainly not be a reason to continue fighting for it. It has by now only symbolic value. Even it would again change hands it would not change the trajectory of the bigger war.

Ukraine is loosing that war. The Jig Is Up and NATO knows it. Ukraine will never be allowed to become a member.

A new narrative element is creeping in with talks about a ceasefire in Ukraine. It would give the Ukraine time to refit its military.

But Russia has absolutely no reason to agree to a pause in the fight. During the war its military has become larger and better and a total defeat of the Ukrainian army is only a question of time.

The U.S. and NATO will soon have lost their big proxy war against Russia.

In light of this reality the much larger, centuries old narrative of the superior West is also breaking down.

This will have global consequences for decades to come.

Comments

I hear the Ukraine wants to change its constiution to allow foreign military bases on its soil. Paving the way for the Poles to become target #1 and increase the chances of WW3.

Posted by: Kaiama | Jul 18 2023 17:09 utc | 1

b.
“losing” NOT “loosing”.
But of course, your English is infinitely better than my German!! 🙂

Posted by: Capn’ Mike | Jul 18 2023 17:11 utc | 2

From reading this blog over the past year and a half. One could almost get the impression that Russia was at the gates of Lviv and the Ruble was one the cusp of becoming the new world reserve currency as sanctions backfired.

Posted by: Soothsayer | Jul 18 2023 17:11 utc | 3

It’s occurred to me that Russia can keep ukraine out of nato by never agreeing to end the war. North Korea stayed at war technically to this day. They may opt for the same strategy.
They could spend the next 50 years casually bombing military facilities in ukraine as they’re constructed.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 18 2023 17:13 utc | 4

The essence of the West is singular and object oriented, from atomism and individualism to monotheism.
The East is more contextual. More the network than the node. Yin and yang, than God Almighty.
Having pushed the rest of the world into a corner, they are emerging as an effective ecosystem. While the Western, Christian based globalism is like one wave in the ocean. Peaking and receding.

Posted by: John Merryman | Jul 18 2023 17:15 utc | 5

Too often in the discourse around this fight, I see the tendency of people to claim, “If I say it is so, it must be so.”
At the bottom and top levels, this tendency has been disastrous for Kyiv as well as Washington, London, et al.

Posted by: Tedder | Jul 18 2023 17:16 utc | 6

If Bakhmut has only symbolic value why did this website dedicate a whole thread to its “liberation”?

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 17:17 utc | 7

Time for the ukie trolls to come in and cope till it bleeds! LMFAO!

Posted by: nook | Jul 18 2023 17:19 utc | 8

Posted by: nook | Jul 18 2023 17:19 utc | 8
The phrase “cope” was popularized by very Fascist-leaning posters on websites like 4Chan. People far more Fascist than anyone in an Azov batallion.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 17:23 utc | 9

If the shoe fits, shove it in.

Posted by: nook | Jul 18 2023 17:24 utc | 10

Posted by: nook | Jul 18 2023 17:24 utc | 10
Well, “cope” is the shoe here. Using the word “cope” is as much an emblem of right wing extremism as a swastika. If you think that fits you…

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 17:28 utc | 11

Excellent work yet again b. To further your point, have a look at this 5 minute video, Ukraine in a nutshell.
https://youtu.be/9J_wBx-FBcc

Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Jul 18 2023 17:29 utc | 12

You sound a bit butt hurt. Do you thing bs’ing about a stupid word changes the fact that ukistan is losing along with it’s western masters? YOU are exhibit “A” in this whole play, the very subject of B’s post. Enjoy.

Posted by: nook | Jul 18 2023 17:33 utc | 13

@inkan1969
Ridiculous. Cope = swastika?
Man, that’s some premium cope right there. Lol.
Just follow the data, and you’ll find peace. This emotional I have to be right stuff doesn’t work.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 18 2023 17:33 utc | 14

Superb piece. Many thanks for all you do here.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 18 2023 17:35 utc | 15

Posted by: Capn’ Mike | Jul 18 2023 17:11 utc | 2
A typo… Search ‘losing’ and you will find the correct spelling at the lines 4 and 105.

Posted by: Alberto | Jul 18 2023 17:35 utc | 16

But Russia has absolutely no reason to agree to a pause in the fight. During the war its military has become larger and better and a total defeat of the Ukrainian army is only a question of time

Has it really? Thousands of Russian tanks have been visually confirmed to have been destroyed. Covert Cabal on YouTube counted thousands of artillery pieces having been removed from storage via satellite imagery.
I guess one could make the point that now T-14 Armatas have become a larger proportion of Russia’s tank fleet, not through increased production but rather through the destruction of T-72B3s and T-90Ms
A more interesting consequence of this war is the realisation amongst NATO that ground based fires must not be neglected. Hence we are an increase in the production of artillery shells and launching systems like HIMARS. The Russian equivalent of HIMARS (Tornado-S) is still nowhere to be seen.

Posted by: Soothsayer | Jul 18 2023 17:41 utc | 17

Thanks for the post, b. When I read stuff like this, from The Jig is Up, I think maybe Von der Leyen has her detractors along the uppity-ups:
“Germany is on a trajectory of becoming a failed state, and as it goes, so will go the incoherent iron and clay mixture of the so-called European Union”
[I mean Germany’s barely distinguishable from Somalia or Kosovo these days, here in Canada we received news that a Canadian tourist fell to their death at Neuschwanstein castle. https://torontosun.com/news/world/u-s-victim-in-germany-attack-was-recent-university-of-illinois-graduate
Next there’ll be travel warnings, I’d expect]
“Either way, the decline of the empire will be radically accelerated; NATO will almost immediately cease to function as a credible military/political alliance; the EU will dissolve as a monetary/political “union”; the demise of the global dollar system will rapidly gain momentum.”
It’s almost like the warmongers in the US can only cope with losing as long as Europe loses more. I really don’t understand much about this. How does Boris Johnson have so much sway over Zelensky? Why would Russia have even signed a peace agreement back then anyway? De-nazify, de-militarize, right?

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 18 2023 17:42 utc | 18

It is foolish to describe your enemy as weak when he isn’t. People will believe you now, but when they realize it was false they will distrust everything.
Hitler wrote in My Struggle that British propaganda in WWI was superior to German propaganda. German propaganda wasn’t organized, while the British was, of course, centralized. German newspapers tended to describe the enemy as silly. But the soldiers arriving at the front could see that they were not, and then they couldn’t trust the papers.
British propaganda on the other hand described the Germans as bloodthirsty monsters, and this corresponded to what the British conscripts saw at the front, an enemy firing bullets and artillery at them. It also stealed them as the enemy wasn’t human, so you could shoot at him.
(A big problem for commanders is that men in their command, at least in the West (as opposed to e.g. African child soldiers), don’t like to fire at other people. Most rifles at Gettysburg were unused, and from the civil war and onward to WWII you need tens of thousands of rounds fired to kill one enemy soldiers. Artillery of course changes that.)

Posted by: Tenet | Jul 18 2023 17:45 utc | 19

I doubt Russia would waste Odessa’s harbor too badly because they’ll need it when they take the city. Probably seize a ship or two which would discourage any others from making the trip. This is more cost effective and easier.

Posted by: Rabbit | Jul 18 2023 17:45 utc | 20

“..One could almost get the impression that Russia was at the gates of Lviv and the Ruble was one the cusp of becoming the new world reserve currency as sanctions backfired.” Soothsayer@3
And you wouldn’t be far from the truth either, though I suspect that the ruble is unlikely to be, on its own, the next major reserve currency. It is likely to feature in the BRIC basket, however.
So far as Lvov/Lemburg/Lviv is concerned its future, like its ancient past, lies in north-south, east-west trade, peace and multicultural exchanges with east asia and north africa as well as europe. As a ghetto for Nazi tribute acts its future is as obscure as the name it has taken to celebrate its massacre of Jews and Poles.
As others including b, have remarked- NATO military doctrine, dictated by the United States which sees itself as the heir of the Prussian General Staff and the Austrian corporal they ended up working for, depends entirely on massive and unchallenged air superiority- those ‘combined arms’ raids so beloved of NATO penpushers and the intellectual prostitutes who work for places like Kings College, London, are ending exactly as they were bound to do so on a battlefield on which the last word is reserved for Russia’s Aerospace forces.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 18 2023 17:47 utc | 21

Posted by: Soothsayer | Jul 18 2023 17:11 utc | 3
What is decisively ending is the very concept of a “reserve currency”. The Russians and Chinese are replacing it with a new system of economic relations, a process that should take decades but is accelerated daily by the Neocons.

Posted by: Prompt critical | Jul 18 2023 17:50 utc | 22

By the way, this is from way back in 2011:
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Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media
The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda.
A Californian corporation has been awarded a contract with United States Central Command (Centcom), which oversees US armed operations in the Middle East and Central Asia, to develop what is described as an “online persona management service” that will allow one US serviceman or woman to control up to 10 separate identities based all over the world.

Posted by: Tenet | Jul 18 2023 17:52 utc | 23

In holding back their armor, Ukraine is doing the right thing. This whole war has become a game of “you go first” since the fall offensives ended.
Russian winter offensive? Skipped.
Ukrainian spring counter-offensive? deleted
Ukrainian summer offensive? Snorted
Now the Russians are going on a little offensive in Lyman.
Are Russians failing to defer reward or is even this offensive merely an attempt to force the Ukrainians to spend their armor in combat?
You go first…
No you….

Posted by: GoFast | Jul 18 2023 17:53 utc | 24

No, neither Russia nor China will replace the dollar. Such talk only comes from people who don’t know the topic.
It is completely inconceivable that the ruble would in any way threaten the dollar dominance. For many different reasons, including the infrastructure for payments.
As for China, they don’t WANT to have a widespread currency. They want tight control of the value of the RMB, so that they can reduce its value when needed. (To make exports cheaper.)

Posted by: Tenet | Jul 18 2023 17:56 utc | 25

The relevance of a Reserve Currency ended when the floating rate era began.
The globalists have been desperately trying to pretend that didn’t happen for fifty years.
Reserve currencies and reserves are a fixed exchange rate concept.
The most convenient and cheapest mechanism is used for international trade. If the most convenient stops being convenient, the next most convenient will take over. That’s how network effects work.
The accounting denomination will then adjust accordingly.

Posted by: The Accountant | Jul 18 2023 18:01 utc | 26

Well, “cope” is the shoe here. Using the word “cope” is as much an emblem of right wing extremism as a swastika. If you think that fits you…
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 17:28 utc | 11
Correction: using the phrase “right wing extremism” is as much an emblem of left wing extremism as the swastika (learn your wings–national Socialists are LEFT wingers).

Posted by: JT | Jul 18 2023 18:02 utc | 27

Well a nuclear exchange would wind up being a stalemate for the war, the best the West can achieve. Which is the scary part. I’m sure someone will be suggesting it at some point.

Posted by: WG | Jul 18 2023 18:02 utc | 28

The globalist wars serve Israel’s interests – Russia saved pro-Palestinian, pro-Hezbollah Syria from Israel-supported al-Qaeda. Here is from 2018:
How Israel and Its Partisans Work to Censor the Internet
As it turns out, Israel and Israeli institutions employ armies of Internet warriors—from Israeli soldiers to students—to spread propaganda online and try to get content banned that Israel doesn’t want seen.
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One such Israeli project targeting the Internet came to light when it was lauded in an article by Arutz Sheva, an Israeli news organization headquartered in an Israeli settlement in the West Bank.
The report described a new project by Israel’s “New Media desk” that focused on YouTube and other social media sites. The article reported that Israeli soldiers were being employed to “Tweet, Share, Like and more.”
Another project to do battle on the Internet was initiated in 2011 by the 300,000-strong National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS). The goal was “to deepen and expand hasbara [state propaganda] activities of students in the State of Israel.”
Under this program, Israeli students are paid $2,000 to work five hours per week to “lead the battle against hostile websites.”
(They have four teams: Content, Monitoring, New Media and Wikipedia. “Content” comes up with new talking points. “Monitoring” flags posts as “anti-Semitic” and “racist”, and targets them for attack. The “New Media team” is responsible for social media channels. The “Wikipedia team” writes propaganda on Wikipedia, and is also “tracking and preventing bias”.)

Posted by: Tenet | Jul 18 2023 18:03 utc | 29

Posted by: Tenet | Jul 18 2023 17:45 utc | 19
“It is foolish to describe your enemy as weak when he isn’t.”
From day one of the SMO it’s been bizarre to me that the US and NATO acted like they thought Russia, a country that produces large quantities of top-tier mathematicians and chess players, would be completely unable to plan and strategize. Just mind-boggling

Posted by: Whitney | Jul 18 2023 18:03 utc | 30

My take on the grain deal is that everyone views it in isolation, at this point the big Ukrainian offensive has failed, whether Ukraine can recover from it or not the march to Melitopol and the Azov sea, the splitting of RF forces, and threatening Crimea to maybe trade for the Donbas, is a media, tactical, and strategic embarrassment. For Ukraine recovering at this point means rebuilding, or NATO troops taking over.
Suravikin’s defense was more than a tactical retreat to regroup, it was to buy time to correct the deficiencies of the Russian military that had become all to evident in the first part of the SMO. Russia is now advancing on Lyman certainly with Kharkov in site, by all indications the force the RF has been building in Belarus for 16 months is ready to go, 16 months is a lot training and proven Wagner commanders have now been moved there to take command of squads and companies. Wagner was always kayfabe.
The original grain deal was signed from a position of weakness, the Kremlin wasn’t fooled at the time they simply could not afford the escalation or the negative media blitz of blocking the deal. Now from a position of strength Russia cancelled it and shelled the port of Odessa. It has nothing to do with being fooled, betrayal from the west, or UKR using the corridor to strike at Crimea. This is the third phase of the SMO.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 18 2023 18:06 utc | 31

More about propaganda online. The U.S. military and the Israelis are not alone: British GCHG is in on it too. You can imagine that today the Ukraine war is their top priority.
By Glenn Greenwald, 2018:
Controversial GCHQ Unit Engaged in Domestic Law Enforcement, Online Propaganda, Psychology Research

Posted by: Tenet | Jul 18 2023 18:09 utc | 32

Posted by: bevin | Jul 18 2023 17:47 utc | 21
Lviv mssacres
Babi Yar is interesting, too.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 18 2023 18:10 utc | 33

Seems to be a lot of noobs posting claims without working out how to post actual links
Have a ‘clobber list’ to read, while you all think about it:

The AFU continued to attempt offensive actions in Donetsk, Krasny Liman and South Donetsk directions.
In Kupyansk direction, units of the Zapad Group of Forces continue successful offensive operations in the area of responsibility. The total advance was up to two kilometres along the front and up to one and a half kilometres in depth.
In addition, as a result of aviation and artillery attacks, AFU units have been hit close to Kalinovo, Berestovoye, Kislovka and Tabayevka (Kharkov region) and Novosyolovskoye (Lugansk People’s Republic).
One ammunition depot of the AFU 103th Brigade of the Territorial Defence of Ukraine has been destroyed near Kotlyarovka (Kharkov region).
The enemy losses were up to 65 Ukrainian servicemen, two armoured fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, and one U.S.-manufactured AN/TPQ-50 counter-battery radar station.
In Donetsk direction, as a result of coordinated and active actions by units of the Yug Group of Forces, aviation and artillery, 12 enemy attacks have been successfully repelled near Pervomayskoye, Vesyoloye, Krasnogorovka, Maryinka and north-west of Kleshcheevka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
In addition, an AFU manpower and hardware concentration area has been hit close to Stupochka, Konstantinovka and Krasnoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
One ammunition depot of the AFU 79th Airborne Assault Brigade has been destroyed near Krasnogorovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The enemy losses were up to 400 Ukrainian servicemen, two armoured fighting vehicles, three pickup trucks, one U.S.-manufactured M777 artillery system, three Polish-manufactured Krab self-propelled artillery systems, one Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system, two Msta-B howitzers, as well as D-20 and D-30 guns.
In Krasny Liman direction, units of the Tsentr Group of Forces, aviation, artillery, and heavy flamethrower systems have repelled two enemy attacks close to Chervonaya Dibrova and Makeevka (Lugansk People’s Republic).
In addition, AFU units have been hit near Terny (Donetsk People’s Republic), Chervonaya Dibrova, Kovalyovka and Karmazinovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).
The activities of one Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group have been suppressed close to Kuzmino (Lugansk People’s Republic).
The enemy losses were up to 100 Ukrainian servicemen, two armoured fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, one Polish-manufactured Krab self-propelled artillery system and two D-30 howitzers.
In South Donetsk direction, as a result of active actions by Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, and artillery of the Vostok Group of Forces, AFU manpower and hardware have been hit close to Urozhaynoye (Donetsk People’s Republic) and Priyutnoye (Zaporozhye region).
Three enemy attacks have been repelled close to Vladimirovka and Urozhaynoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
In Zaporozhye direction, as a result of coordinated actions by Russian units, three enemy attacks have been repelled near Novodanilovka (Zaporozhye region).
AFU manpower and hardware concentration areas have been hit close to Malaya Tokmachka and Orekhov (Zaporozhye region).
In addition, three ammunition depots of the 23rd and 33rd mechanised brigades of the AFU have been destroyed near Malaya Tokmachka and Uspenovka (Zaporozhye region).
The enemy losses were over 200 Ukrainian servicemen, one tank, two armoured fighting vehicles, four pickup trucks, one Msta-B howitzer, and one D-44 gun.
In Kherson direction, the enemy losses were up to 50 Ukrainian servicemen, four pickup trucks, two Msta-B howitzers, and one Akatsiya self-propelled artillery system.
Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised 89 AFU artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and hardware in 98 areas.
Air defence facilities have shot down three projectiles launched by HIMARS MLRS.
In addition, 43 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been destroyed close to Tavolzhanka, Zhovtnyovoye (Kharkov region), Novodruzhesk, Berestovoye, Zaliman (Lugansk People’s Republic), Krasnaya Gora, Podgorodnoye (Donetsk People’s Republic), Novogorovka, Rabotino, Gulyaypole, Mirnoye (Zaporozhye region) and Geroiskoye (Kherson region).
In total, 455 airplanes, 242 helicopters, 5,090 unmanned aerial vehicles, 426 air defence missile systems, 10,740 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,139 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 5,504 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 11,735 special military motor vehicles have been destroyed during the special military operation.

The clobbering continues unabated…

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jul 18 2023 18:13 utc | 34

The crying and raging is getting louder by the day. I don’t know if people in the west think this is some sort of Hollywood fantasy war flick where the little guy will eventually overcome the odds as long as they believe in themselves. Here’s a reality check, again, Ukraine lost this battle as soon as it started. There will be no peace talks or agreements. Russia gave the west a chance to negotiate security guarantees before any of this started. They refused and Russia said ok, have it your way. We’ll secure our border our way and we’re not stopping until we decide the threat has been eliminated. There will be a complete surrender under Russia’s terms or the SMO will continue without pause. It’s that simple. No need to try and complicate it.

Posted by: Watzov | Jul 18 2023 18:16 utc | 35

From Times of Israel, May 2022, Zelensky’s online “#ArmUkraineNow” campaign was advised by Netanyahu aides now working at a PR firm:
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky consulted in recent weeks with a pair of public relations advisers to Israeli opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu in a bid to galvanize military support for his country as it defends itself from Russia’s invasion, according to a report Tuesday.
Walla news said Zelensky received advice from Srulik Einhorn, who was a senior adviser for Netanyahu’s Likud party during the last election. He also reportedly consulted with Jonatan Urich, a longtime Netanyahu aide who continues to serve as the former prime minister’s spokesman.
Both Einhorn and Urich now work at strategic consulting firm perception.media, along with Ofer Golan, another Netanyahu aide.

Posted by: Tenet | Jul 18 2023 18:19 utc | 36

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 18 2023 18:06 utc | 31
the march to Melitopol and the Azov sea, the splitting of RF forces, and threatening Crimea to maybe trade for the Donbas, is a media, tactical, and strategic embarrassment.
Why? Those marches haven’t stopped or reversed. If they happen, will it matter that they did not happen immediately?
by all indications the force the RF has been building in Belarus for 16 months is ready to go, 16 months is a lot training and proven Wagner commanders have now been moved there to take command of squads and companies. Wagner was always kayfabe.
Aren’t you overblowing the likelihood of Russia attacking from Belarus? Looking like traitors seems not worth carrying out some staged performance.
the Kremlin wasn’t fooled at the time they simply could not afford the escalation or the negative media blitz of blocking the deal. Now from a position of strength Russia cancelled it and shelled the port of Odessa. It has nothing to do with being fooled, betrayal from the west, or UKR using the corridor to strike at Crimea. This is the third phase of the SMO.
Why would there not be a negative media blitz to go with this current cancellation, coming especially from the people directly affected by the cancellation? And I thought the second phase was supposed to be the conquest of the whole of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, which hasn’t happened yet. So why are you moving on to the third phase?
Posted by: Whitney | Jul 18 2023 18:03 utc | 30
How much of the top tier talent has fled to Armenia?
Posted by: JT | Jul 18 2023 18:02 utc | 27
Correction: using the phrase “right wing extremism” is as much an emblem of left wing extremism as the swastika (learn your wings–national Socialists are LEFT wingers).
Really? From carrying tiki-torches in a swastika pattern to using the “n” word among other slurs as many times as saying “woke”, you think only the left wing nuts call that “right wing extremism”?
And I thought promoting left wing progressive policies was the whole point of this website that spun off from Daily Kos.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 18:21 utc | 37

@rabbit
There are actually two ports in odessa. One in the city itself one in chernomorez (about 45 min to the west of the city).

Posted by: Orgel | Jul 18 2023 18:22 utc | 38

Posted by: Watzov | Jul 18 2023 18:16 utc | 35
We’ll secure our border our way and we’re not stopping until we decide the threat has been eliminated. There will be a complete surrender under Russia’s terms or the SMO will continue without pause. It’s that simple. No need to try and complicate it.
Isn’t it only that simple in the Hollywood movies?

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 18:25 utc | 39

Posted by: John Merryman | Jul 18 2023 17:15 utc | 5
Your historiography is back-loaded with intangibles.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Jul 18 2023 18:26 utc | 40

Isn’t it only that simple in the Hollywood movies?

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 18:25 utc | 39
The difference here, of course, is that @Watzov | Jul 18 2023 18:16 utc | 35 is not writing a movie script, just highlighting the realities.
Simples…

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jul 18 2023 18:30 utc | 41

How Ukranazistan is recruiting cannon fodder:
A 75% blind man was ordered to the recruiting centre on the excuse of “updating his details”, after which he was promised he would be allowed to go.
Only he was conscripted instead.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/28954

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 18 2023 18:31 utc | 42

Citing Crooke was a very good choice, b. The “grain deal” died when Putin said it will only resume when the West fulfills its promises, which will never occur, and that was on the 13th. A major point I made in “NATO DUI: Too Much NATO Kool-Aid” relates to the inability of Europe to rearm itself because it lacks the energy, the money, and the industrial resources thanks to following the Outlaw US Empire’s diktats on energy policy, deindustrialization and the EUCB laws dealing with deficit spending. And as Hudson notes, the Empire only has what he calls “fine wine” weapons that aren’t meant for combat but to earn MIC corps. massive profits, particularly on maintenance and spare parts. Dimity Orlov also provided what he called the real reason for NATO’s anger with Ukraine–the Ukies showed Western gear to be junk that no nation would want to purchase–which ties in with Hudson’s description.
So yes, NATO has lost but as I posit they’re too drunk on their Kool-Aid to see that reality and will continue to abide by the As Long as it Takes mantra, as the BigLie Media citations provided prove. And thus, the continuation of the Establishment Narrative’s Big Lie that NATO isn’t at war with Russia, which is the same as a defeated Bully raising its arms up as it lies prostrate saying Please don’t hit me; I didn’t mean any harm.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 18 2023 18:33 utc | 43

@GoFast (24) Perhaps Russia defers its offensive, because it is having so much success killing Ukrainian soldiers and destroying their weapons by simply remaining in place and bombarding the crap out of them. That’s how attritional warfare works. Seizing territory will come in due time, and it will be much easier against depleted enemy forces.

Posted by: Rob | Jul 18 2023 18:33 utc | 44

Hey, @39 Inkanazi 1969!
Is it still “hopium” when I said the Ukranazi counteroffensive would be a disastrous failure?
When are you going to join your swastika tattooed Hitler saluting Waffen SS pride parading blueyellow ragwagging prisoner-murdering Ukranazi brothers in the trenches, Inkanazi 1969?
They’re so short of men now their recruiting almost blind people and septuagenarians, so a nice committed nazi like you will be welcome!

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 18 2023 18:34 utc | 45

@ Watzov | Jul 18 2023 18:16 utc | 35
No need to try and complicate it.
In a nutshell, as explaining it to a 5 y.o. I am fine with it, and I agree.
What is complicated, is a road that RF has to travel, to reach steady and secure Western borders with NATO or whoever comes after it.

Posted by: whirlX | Jul 18 2023 18:39 utc | 46

Posted by: Soothsayer | Jul 18 2023 17:41 utc | 17

Has it really? Thousands of Russian tanks have been visually confirmed to have been destroyed.
Covert Cabal on YouTube counted thousands of artillery pieces having been removed from storage via satellite imagery.

Let’s dig a little deeper into the Oryx propaganda site b.s:
1. “Thousands of Russian tanks have been visually confirmed” – really? if visually confirmed then this should be a hard number. How many exactly at last ‘confirmation’ ?
2. “thousands of artillery pieces having been removed” – And then what? Did Covert Cabal also confirm they were destroyed? Or were these artillery pieces distributed to the various refurbishment sites and move into the logistics network as part of the normal resource planning for warfare?
Bear in mind that even if 2000 Russian tanks have been destroyed it still leaves Russia with the biggest tank force in the world.
This on top of the fact that Russia has the biggest tank production facilities in the world. We don’t even need to discuss artillery.
What this means is that your (Oryx’s) ‘visual confirmations’ and all related propaganda is meaningless even if true.
They don’t change the fact that Russia wins on resources, if indeed the basis of your argument is resourcing alone.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 18 2023 18:42 utc | 47

I think you’ve just lost faith in the American way. By every metric that matters, Ukraine is crushing it:
– word count of pro-Ukrainian news articles
– minutes of pro-Ukraine news show commentary vs anti-Ukraine in the us/Europe
– optimism level of American politicians
– pro-Ukraine enthusiasm of the MICIMATT
– Ukraine gov’t research describing the war’s status
…. Come on what more could you need? The evidence is in. Ukraine is dominating. Get over it.

Posted by: Hickory | Jul 18 2023 18:47 utc | 48

The new Western critique of Ukraine’s tactics sounds so redundant and dumb. Sure, if they had a trained army with lots of the right equipment and used it in a coordinated fashion, they would win. They never had that, hence the immorality of pushing them into futile combat by the West. Thank You, Captain Obvious.
And Hollywood influences? What could be more stupid than the Hollywood meme that the hero goes forth into battle against overwhelming odds and the villians KNOW HE’S COMING? As in no surprise whatsoever, such that drones and satellites input could allow a good computer program to predict the outcome?

Posted by: Eighthman | Jul 18 2023 18:50 utc | 49

No, neither Russia nor China will replace the dollar. Such talk only comes from people who don’t know the topic.
Posted by: Tenet | Jul 18 2023 17:56 utc | 25
You’re mixing up words and meanings. Russia and China likely don’t want to replace the dollar with one of their own currencies, but that doesn’t mean they won’t replace the dollar with something else. Either a new currency (unlikely), or a basket of currencies, or a system that doesn’t have one overpowered global master currency.

Posted by: Mike | Jul 18 2023 18:50 utc | 50

Note – Kiev’s military has been extensively trained by NATO since 2014. Kiev’s entire first line military has participated in all NATO missions over multiple tours.
Kiev’s Military is a NATO Military. Full Stop.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 18 2023 18:57 utc | 51

Ukraine has lost confidence in the combined arms tactics — synchronized attacks by infantry, armor and artillery forces…. Western officials heralded the approach as more efficient…

What’s new? This approach sounds like the economic shock therapy of the 90s, adapted to the reality of war. Could be the same authors.

Posted by: Nomad | Jul 18 2023 18:58 utc | 52

thanks b… good overview and i especially liked the linked article ‘the jig is up’….
@ LightYearsFromHome | Jul 18 2023 18:06 utc | 31
i share your view.. thanks for articulating all that…
@ tenet…
you appear to be working hard in an OT manner… try staying focused on the content of the thread.. hopefully no one gets sucked into your OT efforts here..

Posted by: james | Jul 18 2023 18:58 utc | 53

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 17:17 utc | 7

why did this website dedicate a whole thread to its “liberation”?

What are you talking about? This site has always emphasized the strategic value of Bakhmut.
Your masters, owners of the Western MSM media, have often described Bakhmut as ‘symbolic’.
(Of course, only when it suits them: At other times they described Bakhmut as “strategic”.)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 18 2023 18:59 utc | 54

The thing about the narrative – and I take this from CJHopkins piece at Counterpunch maybe 10 years ago – is that no discourse OUTSIDE the narrative is allowed in ruling circles.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/01/13/why-ridiculous-official-propaganda-still-works/
So what if Ukraine gets mashed, if the ruling circles won’t act on it, then it might as well be Ukraine wins.
> Chief among the common misconceptions about the way official propaganda
> works is the notion that its goal is to deceive the public into believing
> things that are not “the truth” (that Trump is a Russian agent, for example,
> or that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, or that the terrorists hate
> us for our freedom, et cetera). However, while official propagandists are
> definitely pleased if anyone actually believes whatever lies they are selling,
> deception is not their primary aim.
>
> The primary aim of official propaganda is to generate an “official narrative”
> that can be mindlessly repeated by the ruling classes and those who support
> and identify with them. This official narrative does not have to make sense,
> or to stand up to any sort of serious scrutiny. Its factualness is not the
> point. The point is to draw a Maginot line, a defensive ideological boundary,
> between “the truth” as defined by the ruling classes and any other “truth”
> that contradicts their narrative.
I’ve been rereading this article over and over again this past week.
And this, BTW, is probably why the PTBs are coming for Hopkins now.

Posted by: oracle | Jul 18 2023 19:00 utc | 55

42 – I have trouble believing that but if it’s true it’s real Volkssturm stuff.
I had better stay away from Ukraine. I am over a decade younger than that and only had a minor heart attack recently. They might conscript ME.

Posted by: Waldorf | Jul 18 2023 19:00 utc | 56

@37 inkan1969
Ah I see woke = nazi name calling.
Equally ridiculous. The problem isn’t the words it’s that your reminded of your weak position. Woke was originally used by the new puritans of thought and deed. It only became bad after people associated it with their ridiculous ideas. It’s not the word that bothers you, it’s the ideas that it makes you think, that contradict your illogical beliefs.
Trust me, follow the data, feeling is not thinking.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 18 2023 19:01 utc | 57

Posted by: james | Jul 18 2023 18:58 utc | 53

@ tenet…
you appear to be working hard in an OT manner… try staying focused on the content of the thread.. hopefully no one gets sucked into your OT efforts here..

Not to mention he is covering old topics from much earlier forums.
@tenet – fyi: your stuff has already been done to death on MoA …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 18 2023 19:02 utc | 58

«the false narrative of ‘Ukraine is winning’ which the ‘western’ propaganda steadily promoted would not win the real war on the ground.»
I reckon that the goal of USA+NATO propaganda is not to win the war on the ground as our blogger “b” seems to imagine, but to make it last as long as possible before the inevitable defeat of the fascist ukrainian government, to send as many body bags back to RF towns, and force the RF to spend as much as possible, as part of an overall aim to achieve regime-change in Moscow within 10-20 years, ideally.
https://www.economist.com/europe/volodymyr-zelensky-on-why-ukraine-must-defeat-putin/21808448
«Mr [_]elensky divides NATO into five camps. First are those who “don‘t mind a long war because it would mean exhausting Russia, even if this means the demise of Ukraine and comes at the cost of Ukrainian lives”.»

Posted by: Blissex | Jul 18 2023 19:03 utc | 59

Posted by: oracle | Jul 18 2023 19:00 utc | 55

And this, BTW, is probably why the PTBs are coming for Hopkins now.

Counterpunch. Still good for something, it seems.
Thanks for the article, it is tasty.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 18 2023 19:06 utc | 60

@ Hickory | Jul 18 2023 18:47 utc | 48
Get over it.
Sure. That is what counts, too, really.
But, when one thinks on the situation on the ground, it is where Ukraine, by far, does not dominate.
The trouble is pure propagandist style in reporting it, as is.
How do you bring bad news to the West, and at which point is obfuscation abandoned from the corporate/government directives?
Is West really ready for headliners such as “Russia wins war in Ukraine”, “Russia makes NATO surrender, and comply with the new border”, “EU abandons Ukraine, while the USA abandons Europe” etc.?
I think not, but it is inevitable. That. Must. Hurt.

Posted by: whirlX | Jul 18 2023 19:06 utc | 61

With Ukraine facing Defeat has the West has placed itself in a dangerous position with the BRICS in August preparing to announce their new reserve currency?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk
Ukraine and the West are facing a devastating defeat
The prospect of a failed counter-offensive and significant territorial concessions would only embolden Russia and China
http://www.telegraph.co.uk http://www.telegraph.co.uk

Posted by: Peace | Jul 18 2023 19:10 utc | 62

The narrative that the west won WW2 seemed to work. I believed that for decades. Appeared to work back then; why not now?

Posted by: Alfred Giesbrecht | Jul 18 2023 19:14 utc | 63

Proposal:
1- Europe is no concern of The USA.
2- China is no concern of The USA.
3- The Middle East is no concern of The USA.
4- Australasia is no concern of The USA.
5- Africa is no concern of The USA.
6- India, as a peer partner, concerns The USA.
7- Russia, as a peer partner, concerns The USA.
8- Her own continent, comprising partner nations, concerns The USA.
9- The Arctic Ocean, as operational domain of partner nations, including a peer partner, concerns The USA.
10- The U.S. Congress must rewrite U.S. Code: Title 10 and The U.S. National Defense Authorization Act to reflect USA military concern only, but resoundingly, for USA Homeland Defense, which includes intra-continental Punitive Operations against smugglers.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Jul 18 2023 19:20 utc | 64

Posted by: whirlX | Jul 18 2023 18:39 utc | 46
I completely agree. Many have said at the beginning that the end result will be Russia taking over the east and south. Hungary and Poland slicing off peices for themselves and leaving whatever little peice left over as Ukraine. What steps they take to accomplish those objectives is anyone’s guess but you can bet your ass they have a strategy or three if and when that occasion arises.
@Rob 44 is bang on. Keep depleting their resources so when the decision to move and claim territory comes, it’ll face little to no resistance.
Pretty solid game plan if you ask me.
Lots of concern trolls want Russia to speed things up. You know how long it’s going to take??? The whole time!!

Posted by: Watzov | Jul 18 2023 19:27 utc | 65

Thanks for the posting b
Exceptionalism and hubris it is
You wrote

The U.S. and NATO will soon have lost their big proxy war against Russia.

The implications of this loss, as you write will be global and last for decades and perhaps longer if we really are seeing an end of Western social organizational control by Pope Frank, King Chuck and the associated global oligarchs.
The meek shall inherit the earth…..may truly come to pass

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 18 2023 19:31 utc | 66

Breaker 1-9,
Hal Turner reportedly received some covert intel about Russia making a move on Odessa. It appears as if sh*t may be hitting the proverbial fan.
Over and out.

Posted by: LtGen_Breedluvv | Jul 18 2023 19:32 utc | 67

@Inkan1969
In over six weeks the glorious counteroffensive has failed to regain any significant territory. A five mile incursion into fields and hamlets in one single point over a front thousands of kilometers long don’t impress me much.
And that’s not to mention the fact that the Russians made gains on other parts (Kupyansk) and turned thousands of Ukrainian troops into ground chuck.
That’s a failure under any reasonable military analysis.
They’re just dicking around here, entropy is the big winner.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 18 2023 19:32 utc | 68

victory was declared a year ago spring if I remember correctly. In the end victory will be declared since Russia will have been weakened to the point that it will cease to be a threat to eastern Europe [remember Putin wanted to take over all of eastern Europe]
The Ukraine will be portrayed as being to corrupt to belong to the west or NATO.[It’s Nazi influence highlighted to get western audiences on side].
Besides who needs the Ukraine now that Russia has been reduced to an insignificant global force both economically and militarily.
I can spin it so why can’t anybody else.

Posted by: Alfred Giesbrecht | Jul 18 2023 19:34 utc | 69

“At the beginning of the war in Ukraine I pointed out that the false narrative of ‘Ukraine is winning’ which the ‘western’ propaganda steadily promoted would not win the real war on the ground.”
Asking who won a given war […] is like asking who won the San Francisco earthquake.
– Kenneth Neil Waltz

Posted by: schkid | Jul 18 2023 19:36 utc | 70

@Tenet | Jul 18 2023 17:56 utc | 25
No, neither Russia nor China will replace the dollar. Such talk only comes from people who don’t know the topic.
Even if the Ruble and the Yuan do not become the new reserve currency, the US dollar could still be ousted.
BRICS could create a totally new currency for settling trade between the members of the organization. This will matter greatly, as the BRICS has passed the G7 in share of global economic growth. By 2030, BRICS is expected to have more than half of global GDP.
Imagine half of the world refusing to accept the US dollar as “payment” for their exports. Then the US would have to find some way to earn some BRICS bucks if it wants to buy from more than half the world. The USA would actually have to work for most of the goods it can “buy” now by merely printing dollars. Among the consequences is that the giant US military, no longer supportable by financial shenanigans, will shrink. The empire will diminish.
Make no mistake, the USA will suffer if it loses its exhorbitant priviledge.

Posted by: Cyril | Jul 18 2023 19:40 utc | 71

Mark my words, Once Russia has defeated the Kiev regime and liberated 60% of Ukraine and restored a more democratic government in the rump Ukraine that is left after the war. The US and his gang of thugs will impose sanctions on the new Ukrainian government and seize all of its’ foreign reserves. the new narrative will be we must destroy the Ukrainian people in order to save the Ukrainian dream of NATO membership

Posted by: Kadath | Jul 18 2023 19:43 utc | 72

Ritter;s Agent Zelensky part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq-Jab4DUhA

Posted by: deal | Jul 18 2023 19:58 utc | 73

Posted by: Tenet | Jul 18 2023 17:56 utc | 25
Excellent analysis – Bravo, somebody who looks at both sides of any transaction. Both sides of any currency. It is indeed a rare thing to see.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 18 2023 20:00 utc | 74

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 18 2023 17:13 utc | 4
That’s my guess as well. In technical terms, it will never end. Fighting will just change levels of intensity.
We’ll see what happens with the Polish + Chihuahua expeditionary force. In my opinion, RU doesn’t need to care what Nato deploys in western Ukraine, the task at hand that is winning factor just focus destroying whatever Nato throws into east side of Dnepr.
Excellent interview of Aleks/BMA of Scott Ritter and Mike Mihajlovic. Discusses the Wagner, leader reshuffling in RU army, grain deal and Odessa, US troop deployments etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7THZKtvLOE

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 18 2023 20:02 utc | 75

Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 18:25 utc | 39
“Isn’t it only that simple in the Hollywood movies?”
I see your problem…This isn’t a Hollywood movie.

Posted by: donten | Jul 18 2023 20:06 utc | 76

@lex talionis | Jul 18 2023 18:10 utc | 33

Posted by: bevin | Jul 18 2023 17:47 utc | 21
LviPv mssacres
Babi Yar is interesting, too.

Certainly Babi Yar is of high significance. Also is significant that already in 1992, in a paper named “Kyiv Vestnik”, an author, probably exile returnee, bragged with pride that “only” 120 German Wehrmacht soldiers were involved in the slaughter of 30,000 Kiev Jews, but 1500 OUN men did the main work.
The Lemberg pogrom is important, and widely underestimated (Raul Hilberg, in his grand oeuvre The Destruction of European Jews, does not even mention it). Lemberg, with its 5k Jews bestially murdered by Bandera’s and Stetko’s OUN hordes, and about 100k in Galicia til end of July, was the first organized mass annihilation of Jews under the Nazi rule. It was no spontaneous outbreak over NKVD executions, rathe following the blueprint in Bandera’s writing “Struggles and Activities” from May 21m 1941:

There are three enemy ethnics in Ukraine: Jews, Poles, and Russians. Those need to be destroyed.

The OUN was the vanguard of the Holocaust, with their own annihilation program, and their mass murder in Lemberg preceded all systematic destruction by the Nazis. Later, OUN “Hilfswillige” assisted in the concentration camps, another “hero of Ukraine” of nowadays, Roman Shukhtyevich, taking part in mass murders in Byelorussia alongside German SS and police units, torching thousands of villages.

Posted by: aquadraht | Jul 18 2023 20:07 utc | 77

@ unimperator | Jul 18 2023 20:02 utc | 77
Oh, I think there will be no foreign troops in Ukraine, until RF is done with it.
What will that force do anyway in the West? Eat pizza and have fun with local girls, probably. Might even have Kinzhal, from time to time.
Or they will have mission to go to help their ‘partners’ eastwards, and very likely die.
So how do you bring troops in and avoid war? Not happening, ever.
If it is like bringing Article 5 over the border, that is an evil thought, but it is a fail again, in reality.

Posted by: whirlX | Jul 18 2023 20:13 utc | 78

Posted by: Cyril | Jul 18 2023 19:40 utc | 72
” Imagine half of the world refusing to accept the US dollar as “payment” for their exports. ”
Imagine not knowing that not half, but the whole world already does that today. In every trade transaction that takes place today the buyer used the currency he wants to use and the seller gets the currency that he wants for the sale.
Trade remains one of things So many people don’t understand.
https://new-wayland.com/blog/anatomy-of-an-fx-transaction/
Imagine half the world not ending up hording US treasuries after the transaction/ trade is complete ?
Not borrowing $’s that they themselves cannot issue ?
Ah, now we are getting somewhere !

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 18 2023 20:14 utc | 79

Btw, Martyanov in his newest video says RU and Turkey are continuing negotiations on how to continue grain exports – Russian grain. This time the west will be completely shut down from any new grain dealings (most likely).
And that doesn’t bode well for the EU, which killed its own farming sector on the basis of replacing it with cheap Ukrainian grain. Well guess what, Ukraine grain output has collapsed and whatever grain is still available will be need to transport on wheels, raising prices to the stratosphere.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 18 2023 20:17 utc | 80

There will be a complete surrender under Russia’s terms or the SMO will continue without pause. It’s that simple. No need to try and complicate it.
Posted by: Watzov | Jul 18 2023 18:16 utc | 35
Exactly my thoughts, well put.

Posted by: bill wolfe | Jul 18 2023 20:17 utc | 81

Is it any wonder that Ukrainian soldiers have reported that the biggest part of their NATO training was brainwashing sessions against the Russians. Sounds like they were given a constant diet of Orwell’s Two Minute Hate sessions. The soldiers said the trainers made them believe that the Russians would pack up and run away once they saw the glorious forces with NATO/US support and weapons. This was a common belief in the West. NATO turned Ukrs into Uber-warriors who would defeat the incompetent Rooskies.
Instead of course, the Ukr forces were basically lead into a slaught which was the result of Ukr and NATO leadership arrogance and inability to accurate measure their enemy. This is why there were pronouncements that the Russians were tougher than expected and did not high tail outta Dodge as was predicted by military planners, etc.

Posted by: Erelis | Jul 18 2023 20:21 utc | 82

@Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 17:23 utc | 9

The phrase “cope” was popularized by very Fascist-leaning posters on websites like 4Chan. People far more Fascist than anyone in an Azov batallion./BLOCKQUOTE>
Since when is cope “a phrase”? You are such a ridiculous idiot. To cope is a verb among educated people, describing the way civilized people behave when confronted with adverse circumstances. That rich spoiled brats and whiners are mocked with in public does not necessarily mean that the mockers are right wingers, sure some might be, but certainly less than the Azov murderers and terrorists you revere. Why do you hang out on 4chan, no life? If you can’t stand the heat, leave the kitchen.

Posted by: aquadraht | Jul 18 2023 20:23 utc | 83

Fascist Trio

Jonatan Urich, Ofer Golan and Yisrael Einhorn to be charged, pending hearing, for allegedly sending van with loudspeakers to home of Shlomo Filber and blaring accusations of lying.
The three are suspected of harassing state witness Shlomo Filber, a former Likud campaign manager and longtime confidant to party leader Netanyahu.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 18 2023 20:23 utc | 84

Russian Strategy:
It appears the Russian strategy has been to put up defenses and to apply pressure along the long zero line with the Ukrainians. This strategy works very well with neutralizing the AFU (Army Forces of Ukraine) as it continually attacks and consequently loses more of its men and equipment. As the AFU exhausts itself, the Russian military is strategically advancing to prepare itself for major breakthroughs.
It appears the time of a major Russian advance is approaching.

Posted by: young | Jul 18 2023 20:25 utc | 85

Reading through several TG channels over the last couple of days I’ve noticed that the AFU has been shelling the hell out of the Russian advance, plus in support of their attack on Artemovsk they haven’t been holding back the artillery, actually pretty much the same everywhere they have attacked.
Cluster bomb fiesta was all about sending illegal weapons to sustain a failing AFU offensive and to halt a Russian offensive. The only thing NATO is running low on is scruples.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 18 2023 20:27 utc | 86

If Bakhmut has only symbolic value, why did this website dedicate a whole thread to its “liberation”?
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 17:17 utc | 7
——————————————————–
Artemivsk (Bakhmut) was only considered strategically necessary while the Ukies controlled it. It was the site of the 2014 Battle of Artemivsk between Ukraine and the self-declared separatist Donetsk People’s Republic. Pro-Russian separatists had captured parts of the city during the 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine in April, and a Ukrainian special forces unit together with the National Guard were dispatched to expel the separatists.
Now that the Ukies have lost it again, it only has symbolic value, until the Ukies take it back again, then it will be strategically necessary again. So Inkan1969, are you getting the picture now? In time, all that was Donbass will be Donbass again, but it will be Russian as the people desire it to be that way.

Posted by: Ed | Jul 18 2023 20:28 utc | 87

@ unimperator | Jul 18 2023 20:17 utc | 82
Yes, grain. RF is giving it away to countries that cannot afford it.
That is some serious psy-op, demonstrating soft power, and securing Africa and Asia. Very anti-colonial move.
I just do not see the way how Erdo is going to make money out of it.

Posted by: whirlX | Jul 18 2023 20:29 utc | 88

The dollar may be mostly a matter of convenience and inertia – to be overcome in reaction to US arrogance. The dollar doesn’t need to go to zero in international trade, just drop enough to be competitive such that fools in Congress get a harsh message about it.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jul 18 2023 20:30 utc | 89

So b recently posted a ‘must-read’ link to an article by Gordon Hahn. I just read it and found it really remarkable in some of it comments. Of note, it doesn’t appear to me to have been written by software or by Ben Wallace. Perhaps that tells us something about the success of the previous ‘victory by narrative control’ campaign.
First off, the previous narrative, as I understood it, was that Ukraine had so much support from NATO that it didn’t require formal membership. That was just a formality.
“This war is not about Ukraine’s national security, Western security, the ‘Western way of life’, ‘Western civilization’, or ‘democracy’ (we in the West have/had republics, not democracies, hence the quotation marks).” Well, France is a republic (happy Bastille day!) and so is the US. Canada’s never been one, but it seems kind of democratic. When did the narrative stop being about Ukraine’s right to defend itself? (Sullivan, Blinken)
“Victory over Russia in the Ukrainian war is required by Western elites in order to save the right of NATO expansion and the West’s right to global hegemony on the cheap, because these are not existential needs but simply a preferences and thereby goals that are driven by power lust, ambition, and greed on the individual, the national, and collective Western elite scales.” I thought the narrative told me before that this was existential for Europe (never mind what the ‘Russian propaganda’ told me about it being existential for Russia.)
“Victory is preferred to and should come more at the expense of a relatively small country that the West pushed to the fore like a human shield as it aggravated Moscow with the threat of NATO expansion.” I had to stop there to check that Hahn is still talking about Ukraine and not Puerto Rico or Honduras or Guatamala (and I encourage a quick check on recent news from these places). Biggest military in Europe. Largest country in Europe after Russia. Bigger than the republic of France. A relatively small country. Ok.
“Naturally, Ukrainian Presidents Petro Poroshenko and Volodomyr Zelenskiy, much of the Ukrainian elite, and Ukraine’s numerous nationalists, ultranationalists, and neofascists are to blame for this truly grave predicament in which Ukrainians have been trapped by the West. (I leave out Moscow’s own lesser sins in the causality of this conflict here).”
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Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 18 2023 20:31 utc | 90

Thank you for this comprehensive update, b. While you were working on it, I was watching the two videos I have just mentioned in my most recent post which can be linked to at the top of your right side menu – they are about Norway, historical in nature, and I strongly commend them as much like when Russia compiled a video on the importance of Crimea back in the day, they give a perspective which is very much needed on countries which have been attempting to overthrow Russia, Sweden having been the first. The analysis comes from Sweden itself and is very professional. I will be watching it again this afternoon.
Also to karlof1,if he has the time for it – it may be considered old news, but this is worth our consideration. One comment in the narrative said that there is more opposition to the west’s current confrontations in the US than there is in Sweden. I found that encouraging and would attribute the assessment largely to your and b’s efforts here and on your substack. The plight of Europe is sobering; are they the next Ukraine? That is the question.
The links are available at post# 19 on your interim ‘not Ukraine’ thread.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 18 2023 20:34 utc | 91

Posted by: young | Jul 18 2023 20:25 utc | 87
AFU banged its head on the wall in Zaporozhye, according to estimates losing 30 % of Nato provided equipment in the first couple of weeks. Then switched to the mosquito tactic of small infantry tactics while holding AFVs and tanks back.
Now, they resumed the large scale attack with tanks and AFVs, resulting another similar paced slaughter of them as in the first few weeks.
Now, they are done with AFVs and tanks. The reason they can attack in Klischeevka-Kurdumuyivka area, and in NE Soledar area is because those are so-called quiet fronts, and forested fronts, which means AFVs aren’t needed as much to attack. So they can attack only with infantry.
The Bidet administration said they will lower support to Ukraine starting from November this year, which means they go from full support to partial support. Even “full support” isn’t anywhere nearly enough to sustain for losses.
That’s why AFU is done once their little adventures south of Bakhmut are mopped up. General Syrsky of AFU said recently that they must capture Bakhmut due to it being a symbolic event. You don’t need to hear any more to understand the basis of decision making is brain dead, after that.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 18 2023 20:34 utc | 92

The wellspring of bullshit narratives is delusional thinking. The Ukrainian and US power structures have much in common here. The US still lives in its fantasy as the world’s sole superpower, a situation that existed for maybe a decade. Ukraine’s present power structure indulges in a fantasy of dominion over eastern Ukraine, where the industry, agriculture and resources are concentrated. To them, the Donbass is a colony to be exploited peopled by subhuman laborers. Ukraine just can’t let go of the idea of ‘taking back’ the Donbass and Crimea, because that fantasy of dominance is all they’ve got, just as the US can’t let go of the fantasy that it can continue to control the entire world through intimidation and financial extortion. What sustains the delusional thinking is the propaganda. The narrative overtakes the reality, the tail wags the dog. It works for awhile, until it doesn’t.

Posted by: Mike R | Jul 18 2023 20:36 utc | 93

Posted by: whirlX | Jul 18 2023 20:29 utc | 90
Turkey makes money because they are allowed to buy grain at a 25% discount, and they have set up grain processing facilities to pack and re-export it. Most likely RU will offer a similar deal, but without the west’s participation.
EU will feel the pain from all of this which is the last thing they need right now. Which is only natural as they were the largest beneficiary from the grain deal. Only 3 % of the grain ended up in poor countries.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 18 2023 20:37 utc | 94

Posted by: aquadraht | Jul 18 2023 20:07 utc | 79
Dmytro Dontsov is another “hero of Ukraine” worthy of study. The lucky guy was able to escape to Canada where he died in 1973. I wonder if he knew Chrystia F’s grandfather? Perhaps he visited Mykola Lebed sometime while they both spent their golden years in North America?

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 18 2023 20:40 utc | 95

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 17:28 utc | 11
I’m sure this has been dealt with but this guy is a poison dwarf.
Classic Western propaganda finding Nazis everywhere but not amongst the Ukies that are frequently so openly devoted to the historical, concrete fascism of Adolf Hitler.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 18 2023 20:41 utc | 96

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 18 2023 20:27 utc | 88
Dima pointed out that the AFU has been heavily shelling Russian positions south of Bakhmut for days. Apparently the AFU was sending a lot of its arty and shells to that area. Suddenly they switch to the cluster munitions. Not very useful for taking out heavy armor and fortified positions.

Posted by: Mike R | Jul 18 2023 20:42 utc | 97

On the OT issue of a global “reserve currency,” none has never been formerly designated as such. After both world wars, the Outlaw US Empire arranged the structure of how international trade was financed so the dollar would become the main currency used is those transactions. But as pointed out by many, having a national currency perform that role destabilizes the entire international system of commerce. That’s the basic reason why Keynes at Bretton Woods argued for a special central banking currency he called the bancor to perform that function. The discussion of this issue is far too complex to be done in a comment thread, and it’s clear many need to get a heap of prior knowledge befor trying to discuss it anyway–and that goes triply for the fleas. The most resent easily accessible in-depth discussion on this issue are the four Geopolitical Economy Hour programs devoted to this issue, Show One, Show Two, Show Three, and Show Four. This additional show from the series also contains a long discussion that ought to be included, here. So, that’s quite a lot of homework to do on this topic. And of course, the vast majority of Hudson’s materials at his website deal with the US and global financial systems and how the Outlaw US Empire has weaponized it to assert and attempt to keep its global hegemony intact.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 18 2023 20:45 utc | 98

@ Bruised Northerner | Jul 18 2023 20:31 utc | 92

“Victory is preferred to and should come more at the expense of a relatively small country that the West pushed to the fore like a human shield as it aggravated Moscow with the threat of NATO expansion.” I had to stop there to check that Hahn is still talking about Ukraine and not Puerto Rico or Honduras or Guatamala (and I encourage a quick check on recent news from these places). Biggest military in Europe. Largest country in Europe after Russia. Bigger than the republic of France. A relatively small country. Ok.

Yes, it is a slightly dubious stand there, but I think he meant “small markets country” – it is depopulated and will get even poorer. Poland is big country in his mind probably, as it brings in 50 mil. consumers. Belorussia is small, so is Serbia, regardless being the biggest on the Balkans. Not enough cheap labor consumers.

Posted by: whirlX | Jul 18 2023 20:45 utc | 99

Posted by: nook | Jul 18 2023 17:24 utc | 10
Well, “cope” is the shoe here. Using the word “cope” is as much an emblem of right-wing extremism as a swastika. If you think that fits you…
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 18 2023 17:28 utc | 11
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Let me try to understand your point. You are saying that “cope” is the fascist version of “woke”? So which one are you; cope or woke? You seem to be really butt-hurt by nooks comment @#8: “Time for the ukie trolls to come in and cope till it bleeds! LMFAO” of which I really didn’t understand at all, but where did you learn so much about fascist jargon?

Posted by: Ed | Jul 18 2023 20:49 utc | 100