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Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (30 July 2023)
▫️The AFU continued unsuccessful attempts at offensive actions in South Donetsk, Krasny Liman and Donetsk directions.
▫️In Donetsk direction, 7 enemy attacks have been successfully repelled by Yug Group of Forces close to Klescheevka, Andreevka and Krasnogorovka DPR.
▫️AFU units have been hit near Druzhba, Berdychi, Kleshcheevka, Avdeevka, Krasnoye and Pobeda DPR.
▫️1 ammunition depot of the AFU 124th Territorial Defence Brigade has been destroyed near Dzerzhinsk DPR.
▫️The enemy losses were up to 190 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 4 motor vehicles, 2 U.S.-manufactured M777 artillery systems, as well as Msta-B and D-20 howitzers.
▫️In South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, units of the Vostok Group of Forces repelled 1 enemy attack close to Uspenovka (Zaporozhye).
▫️AFU manpower and hardware concentration areas have been hit close to Zherebyanki, Novodanilovka, Veseloye and north of Rabotino (Zaporozhye).
▫️The actions of 1 SRG have been disrupted close to Charivnoye (Zaporozhye).
▫️The enemy losses were up to 250 servicemen, 1 tank, 3 AFVs, 4 motor vehicles, as well as howitzers: Msta-B and D-20.
▫️In Krasny Liman direction, as a result of actions by Tsentr Group of Forces, 3 enemy attacks have been successfully repelled close to Kovalyovka LPR, as well as near Serebryansky forestry.
▫Enemy manpower and hardware concentration areas have been hit close to Torskoye, Serebryanka, Grigorovka DPR, Chervonaya Dibrova, Nevskoye, and west of Novovodyanoye LPR.
▫️The enemy losses were up to 140 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 3 motor vehicles, as well as 1 D-30 howitzer.
▫️In Kupyansk direction, assault detachments of the Zapad Group of Forces continued offensive operations forward Novosyolovskoye LPR and advanced 300 metres into the depth of the enemy defence.
▫️AFU units have been hit near Timkovka, Peschanoye, Olshana, and Novomlynsk (Kharkov), and Stelmakhovka, Novosyolovskoye and Artyomovka LPR.
▫️1 ammunition depot of the AFU 125th Brigade of the Territorial Defence of Ukraine has been destroyed near Izbitskoye (Kharkov).
▫️The enemy losses were up to 80 servicemen, 4 motor vehicles, as well as 1 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system and 1 D-30 howitzer.
▫️In Kherson direction, the enemy losses were up to 65 servicemen and 5 motor vehicles.
▫️Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised 102 AFU artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and hardware in 108 areas.
▫️In addition, a retraining centre and a storage, maintenance and repair point of AFU drones have been destroyed near Mogilyovka (Dnepropetrovsk).
▫️1 command post of the 100th Territorial Defence Brigade has been hit close to Yampol DPR.
▫️Fighter Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces has shot down 1 Mi-8 helicopter of Ukrainian Air Force near Vozdvizhenka DPR.
▫️Air defence facilities have shot down 44 UAVs close to Tavolzhanka (Kharkov), Zaliman, Rubezhnoye, Kremennaya, Raigorodka LPR, Sladkoye, Staromikhailovka DPR, Shevchenkovo, Dolinka, Trudovoye, Novopokrovka, Mirnoye (Zaporozhye), Staraya Zburyevka and Novaya Kakhovka (Kherson).
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Posted by: ctiger | Jul 30 2023 14:49 utc | 4

Weeb Union is puzzled why Russia is not moving after its breakthrough in the Luhansk area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loWQv6EYfwI
After considering his question of why the Russians don’t move forward after their bridge head and then breakout in the Luhanksk area west of Karmazyanivka, the below is my best guess:
When your enemy is doing something really stupid, it is best not to interrupt their stupidity.
If the Russians started moving forward significantly in the northern part of the zero line, it could cause the AFU to cancel their current failing offensive in the south. This would rob them of the continual opportunity this front provides to de-militarize Ukraine and to further weaken the AFU and their NATO allies.
If this is what is going on, Russia will not mobilize until the Ukrainians start running out of steam on their lastest and greatest offensive which started June 4th.
This is the best explanation I can come up with for now. Perhaps, you have a better explanation?

Posted by: young | Jul 30 2023 15:04 utc | 6

This was probably discussed in the last thread, but Dima reports that the Russians recaptured Staromayorsk (the village that the trolls got all excited about.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4bpuQUUso
The great Failer-offensive by NATO rolls on!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 30 2023 15:12 utc | 8

If this is what is going on, Russia will not mobilize until the Ukrainians start running out of steam on their lastest and greatest offensive which started June 4th.
This is the best explanation I can come up with for now. Perhaps, you have a better explanation?
Posted by: young | Jul 30 2023 15:04 utc | 8
You are in the right ballpark. At some point, if the AFU decide to stop flinging their forces into the teeth of the Russian fortifications, meanwhile making pinprick terrorist attacks on Russian civilians, then eventually the Russians might be forced to do something different.
As it is, you would never plan for it this way, so they are being opportunistic.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 30 2023 15:21 utc | 10

Weeb Union is puzzled why Russia is not moving after its breakthrough in the Luhansk area.
Posted by: young | Jul 30 2023 15:04 utc | 8
Perhaps it is a way of keeping the stalemate going. The Ukrainians are self destructing against the Russian defense. A little territorial gain keeps the pressure on. Another possibility is that their combined arms approach requires the movement up of the more static assets before they move again. Thus the offense will always be a series of steps rather than a continuous flow. Also, no doubt, the Ukrainians have moved resources into the area, making a further penetration more costly.

Posted by: Jmaas | Jul 30 2023 15:54 utc | 12

,,Am sure that Russia is well aware of Ukie and Nato plans to take Crimea and are preparing for any and all attempts . The US badly wants control over Black Sea and Sevastopol Navy Base and may even go extreme in the attempts to take control . All this may come to a major battle in this War .

Posted by: leocz | Jul 30 2023 15:58 utc | 14

More on Poland and Western Ukraine – this may have been discussed but it is well worth reading as we approach end-game
Here’s How Poland Is Slyly Taking Control Of Western Ukraine
Andrew Korybko …
https://korybko.substack.com/p/heres-how-poland-is-slyly-taking

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 30 2023 16:07 utc | 16

The US monomaniacal focus on Crimea is fascinating. It could be argued that the failures of Ukraine right now, and the hollowing out of its military capability are entirely the result of demands for a southern attack against Crimea. No matter that we could all see the defensive lines from space, or that an attack in this direction is across open steppe without air cover and only minimal artillery support. It was chosen for political and PR reasons.
Of course war is politics by other means and it’s debatable whether a Ukrainian offensive in another sector of the front would have been more successful. But if war is politics by other means we need to remember that politics is the art of the possible. The southern offensive by Ukraine was only going to succeed if every best-case scenario played out. That’s wishful thinking, not the art of the possible.

Posted by: Lex | Jul 30 2023 16:18 utc | 18

To Julian #1
https://mronline.org/2022/03/17/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological-research-facilities-worried-russia-may-seize-them/

Posted by: Jazz | Jul 30 2023 16:43 utc | 20

Posted by: Lex | Jul 30 2023 16:18 utc | 30
The monomaniacal focus on Ukraine is Vicki Nuland, family history, as is the frontal assault against prepared positions. Think Sicarii-Masada.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Jul 30 2023 17:50 utc | 22

Posted by: Jmaas | Jul 30 2023 15:54 utc | 20

Perhaps it is a way of keeping the stalemate going. The Ukrainians are self destructing against the Russian defense. A little territorial gain keeps the pressure on. Another possibility is that their combined arms approach requires the movement up of the more static assets before they move again. Thus the offense will always be a series of steps rather than a continuous flow. Also, no doubt, the Ukrainians have moved resources into the area, making a further penetration more costly. ..

That’s a good description what actually is going on as planned for tomorrow by the UAF’s Commanders(?).. I don’t think so.
Thw UAF “counter strikes” in the southern regions are somewise already being “defeated” by RF in any “sense” of today’s vids, but they (UAF) is just the domain of that ground fields, but still today nothing have changed on the power on either sides.
Pls. have a look at the latest news on-ground losses/gains of either sides .. Be “happy” due to real, true information to that “war”.
Be happy to live in an early-staged country to resolve the current on-going conflicts by BRICS !
For “War-gamers”, look at:
https://rumble.com/c/c-1613003

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 30 2023 17:53 utc | 24

Posted by: Lex | Jul 30 2023 16:18 utc | 30
“The US monomaniacal focus on Crimea is fascinating.”
I mostly lurk here and am not as knowledgeable as you and many others. But isn’t Crimea home to Russia’s only warm water port? If so, it would seem essential for both military and trade purposes, and if the US’s goal is to destroy Russia gaining control of Crimea might be the most efficient way to do it. I always thought that was the main objective of the 2014 coup. Even Putin didn’t seem too exercised over the loss of the Donbass then, since he refused to recognize their referendum or whatever it was in which they expressed their wish to become part of Russia. His response to the potential loss of Crimea was very different.
So yes, the Donbass has some resources that Blackrock et al. would find very enticing, but I can see why the US would still consider Crimea to be the ultimate prize (setting aside bigger picture issues like the transition to multipolarism etc.)

Posted by: Mouse | Jul 30 2023 17:58 utc | 26

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 30 2023 15:40 utc | 18
… …
So pls. let “them” do whatever they’ve being planned to do, esp. on the Crimea bridge of the Russian FD – Listen-up – once more – We (RF) will ‘reflect’ any Drone-strikes, or whatever You started , may come soon (when 5 secs before have scanned by ‘Thermo-‘Radar Systems around RF -then destroyed – a failure of RF-AV capapabilties?) – NO – that days.

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 30 2023 18:28 utc | 28

Posted by: daffyDuct | Jul 30 2023 14:34 utc | 2
(Russia’s perceived advantage in Electronic Warfare?)
That’s an interesting point to raise – especially in relation to Starlink. It invites speculation that Russia’s mastery of EW has allowed RUAF to map, in real time, the position of EVERY UAF military asset, including soldiers. That would explain the failure of almost every attempt by UAF to extract an advantage on the battlefield.
It would allow Russia to maintain a list of 200/300+ potential targets and focus on destroying the ones highest on the threat scale. Right or wrong, that’s what seems to be happening.
It would nice if b would comment directly, or obliquely, on this possibility.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 30 2023 18:35 utc | 30

Once more to “understand” ? -> NO!
All UAF-Soldiers have been sent into a direct “war” with their “brothers” of Russia on the Eastern sider (Lugansk/Donetzk).
Is that correctly reported? I think it is that.
Now – why not claimed by UKR-Nazi + supporters byUS/UK/EU-Germany ? :
The D-People is very “low informed”. Same as in some other E’U’-States.
V.d. Liar (EU President) is a criminal person being searched by any attorneys and prosecuters woldwide, to get her into an international rule & judge – like DenHague !
So, that’s it.

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 30 2023 18:39 utc | 32

@ 17
Indeed, if this is remotely true it’s a more idotic version of Operation Sealion.
After all how are these amphibious light infantry going to be sustained logistically? Never mind costs incurred trying to land troops against a force with far superior air & sea assets, and a garrison that outnumbers them on land at God-knows what ratio & far heavier equipment such as tanks, artillery etc.
Anyone believing that tripe, goes beyond being “pro-Ukraineian” to just being a f***king moron…

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jul 30 2023 18:53 utc | 34

Professor Glenn Diesen interviewed on Indian TV
Saudi Arabia to host Ukraine “peace talks” – without inviting Russia

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 30 2023 19:17 utc | 36

Crimea has been Russian for centuries … only Ukrainian for decades …
It was captured for the Russian Empire by Irishman Peter Lacy ‘Considered one of the most successful Russian Imperial commanders before Rumyantsev and Suvorov, in a military career that spanned half a century he claimed to have participated in 31 campaigns, 18 battles, and 18 sieges. He died on his private estate in Riga, where he served as governor for many years.’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lacy
On the outbreak of war with Turkey the following year Lacy moved to reduce Azov, a key strategic citadel which would become a lasting monument to Russia’s ambitions in the south. The Turkish bashaw capitulated after three months, leaving behind 300 pieces of ordnance and nearly 300 Christian captives. In the following year Lacy took command of all Russian forces in the Crimea. He stormed the previously impregnable fortress at Perekop, which dominated the isthmus of the same name that connects Crimea to the mainland, surrounded the castle of the Aga of the Guards on the Don and the Dneiper, captured the stronghold of Kaffa at the head of a force of 30,000 Cossacks, overran the Crimea as far as the Tauric Mountains and ravaged the countryside with fire and sword. In 1739–41 his forces returned to the Ukraine as a consequence of renewed hostilities with Sweden, and he later commanded against them in Finland.
https://www.historyireland.com/peter-lacy-prince-eugene-muscovy/
@Crimea is only important to nato if destroying russia is the ultimate prize.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 30 2023 18:49 utc | 37
Fully agree.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 30 2023 19:30 utc | 38

Which “bio weapons labs” – why don’t you name them for me. I’ve never seen a list.
Posted by: Julian | Jul 30 2023 14:33 utc | 1
Maybe this article is offerimg an overview, it is in german.
https://www.telepolis.de/features/Entwickeln-die-USA-neue-biologische-Waffen-4177163.html

Posted by: 600w | Jul 30 2023 19:34 utc | 40

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 30 2023 18:49 utc | 37
Crimea is important but only as a step to destroying russian nuclear weapons and their space program.

. Why else need Crimea? Clearly with it russia can only improve security over the black sea. Nato has ports all over it and therefore doesn’t need it as they have turkey.
That is to say Crimea is only important to nato if destroying russia is the ultimate prize. ,,

Yes, that it is.
Pls. think a small “beside” – there are 3 possible “out-comes”:
1- The AFU would win-back finally at all back the Donbas & Lugansk regions til current “People-voted'” RF-State boungaries.
Is that realistic, as wished until 2025 by the US/AUKUS/EU Guy&Women (Nuland,Kissinger,Baerbock,Habeck,Macron, not at least the “Bidens” today ‘??
So well. every of MoA’s just know before those of some “facts”, it must be repeatedly published!
The “Goebels” weapon was only TO REPEAT the same story, hatred day-by-day against Jewish inhabitants.
Today, we have burning Ourans (Koran) in Sweden & DK, and a lot of demos abroad.
If You here feels as “abroad”, You are welcomed.
Do not forget that RF will introduce its own CLUSTER Ammo shells firing to UKR-lonely released, since today 2023-07-31. That would and will be a very (!) bloody desaster for the UKR-
Army (AFU) soldiers ..
Be sure ..

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 30 2023 19:40 utc | 42

Korybko, Doctorow and others who should know better are still calling it the Suwalki Corridor, a misnomer for the Suwalki Gap. Both RF and Belarus would like it to become the Suwalki Corridor, as would many of us; but it is not yet one. A (cadastral) corridor is a relatively narrow strip of land established for the purpose of contiguously connecting two larger areas. Clearly no such corridor exists, but the Suwalki Gap (a region of the Poland-Lithuania border separating the RF-Kaliningrad and Belarus by a short distance) represents an ideal stretch of land for just such a corridor (always identified as such by the Soviet Union, perhaps with an eye to the future). The USAk warlords obviously know that if K’grad were to be threatened, the establishing of a Suwalki Corridor would be a high priority for the RF.

Posted by: petra | Jul 30 2023 19:44 utc | 44

Weeb Union is puzzled why Russia is not moving after its breakthrough in the Luhansk area.
Posted by: young | Jul 30 2023 15:04 utc | 8
As a guess, and I have no information, an operational pause will allow the RF to consolidate positions before the inevitable UAF counter-attack. So this RF attack is not only threatening key positions but pulling in reserve Ukrainian formations who might be ordered to attack once again – with by now predicateble results.
Logistics might also be playing a part.
Another thought is that in a big war (as this one is) you rarely if ever defeat your enemy with a single operation. As far back as the 1920’s the Red Army postulated that a series of operations were required to defeat an enemy of some strength. So if this is indeed what is the plan, then as reserves are sucked into this sector – and a few days delay is necessary for a redeployment – across a river don’t forget – expect another attack somewhere else. This theory stacks with the missing 300,000 (?). Wait and see?
However as I said, I have no idea. Just trying to fit what may be the facts to established Soviet/Russian military doctrine.

Posted by: marcjf | Jul 30 2023 19:55 utc | 46

Which “bio weapons labs” – why don’t you name them for me. I’ve never seen a list.
Posted by: Julian | Jul 30 2023 14:33 utc | 1
Amazing….. I suggest you go to the website for the UNSC and read the relevant filings by the Russian Delegate…
OTW
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!!!
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jul 30 2023 20:15 utc | 48

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 30 2023 19:37 utc | 45

.. But that’s where things are, it’s being said on purpose to prop up the pro-war narrative in the NATO sector. ..

OK, but “where things are”, it’s to proof daily by either evaluated infos. Wher the infos come/came from?
Today we have only some of current “influencers” of the “right” side:
– 1st is Diman – a so-called “Story-teller” but I’ve liked him due to a nearly truly reported story daily.
– all otheers published on Y-Tube I don’t like due to the massive breakings by AD. (ie. WeebUnion ..)
– very insider online infos are not available beside having a special peer-to-peer VPN or any other ‘secret’ ways.
The dead soldiers number of RF within last 7 days are unknown. Mr. Shoigu refused to give that real losses on men since last week. BUT: We’seen a lot of vids where a lot of RF-Soldiers have been “destroyed” !”
May be UKR losses are a “little” higher (1:10, 1:5 don’t know), this is a real WAR that USA/UK and Europe is supporting for – without any offered possibilities of an immediately handled cease-fire.
The EU – v.d.Liars “Schlacht”-Ship – won’t rely to any negotionans with Russia.
So then, it’s as is. :
Snipers may be stayed on a local positions in Bruxelles, when leaving such “guys” like von.DerLiars would leave “their” office.
Be happy, every eve going to dinner or what else .. wait for only a “Smoke bomb” – be sure .. also Crazy Madam Baerbock – that’s a 360 degree turn !

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 30 2023 20:25 utc | 50

Earlier, I mentioned that the Ukies have ~ 1,000,000 casualties…
Martynov weighs in….
Macgregor Talks Some Numbers…
… which are crucial for understanding the scale of catastrophe not just for 404 but for NATO. Macgregor, being a serious source on numbers, since he has access to Pentagon’s assessments, makes a short quip: who knows how many wounded and VSU having great difficulties evacuating their wounded.
And this is the key–those 300s are turning into 200s in massive numbers which add to the baseline of around 350,000 VSU KIAs dramatically and while it is clear that the whole number of casualties of VSU is reaching or is pass one million, we WILL BE astonished by the number of KIAs when everything is said and done.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jul 30 2023 20:29 utc | 52

Another point – beside the currently attacks of MIL-situation UKR/RF on either side – is :
– Who is Baerbock(FM Germany), who is Habeck(Economy Minister of Germany), who is Scholz(You know that all).
Now – have a look towards France (okay, all those are Afrivans poor crazy people) – what do “You” think would happen, let’s say in about 5 years tzhen in Germany? Is it as quiet as just now? Don’t think so.
So, the plan is to keep all the “poor minded” peoples to stay calm despite heavy losses next winter due tu Gas-suupply (How much Percentage in German gas reservoirs available at 01.01.2024?) ?
So then, Germans will flee to Africa or to Russia/Belarus/China/Thailand/Vietnam as tourists, as can by flight prices.
That will come – nothing else – or the China/US conflict – with N-Korea involved helping China ..
That’s then really the real “end of USA”‘s hegemony – or NOT by helping of CIA .. ?

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 30 2023 20:55 utc | 54

Posted by: danf51 | Jul 30 2023 20:17 utc | 54
The attack frontage of a Russian Division is approximately 15km, the defence frontage 30km. The bridgehead is 30km wide, 7km in depth, so either they have 1 Division digging in to repel the inevitable counter attacks, or 2 Divisions waiting for their logistic stockpiles to reach a level where they can breakout. Either way Ukraine is in trouble, already the attempts around Bakhmut have reduced in intensity or ceased entirely, since the surprise advance, and the danger of a potential breakout will necessitate more reinforcements being sent from an already stretched reserve.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 30 2023 21:16 utc | 56

Taking Crimea locks Russia out of the Black Sea to a large extent. And it is a grand political prize in the long war against Russia. One of the very first things the coup government in Kiev did was announce that the lease for the Russian navy would not be renewed. It’s hugely important for both sides and why Russia’s focus in the spring of 22 wasn’t Kiev but the land corridor Ukraine is trying to break.
But if the goal is to weaken and even break up Russia, Crimea doesn’t have to be first.
Posted by: Lex | Jul 30 2023 20:12 utc | 52
The Brits are the masterminds behind the Ukes retaking Crimea? Perhaps the Brits will copy the Japanese plan to capture Singapore. Sadly the losers in Singapore were Brits. And Russians are not Brits.

Posted by: kupkee | Jul 30 2023 21:27 utc | 58

Posted by: kupkee | Jul 30 2023 21:27 utc | 64
British “military experts” also planned Ukraine’s assault operations to take back Snake island in May last year, of which several assault operations conducted with special forces, boats and helicopters ended up getting shot into the sea.
British “military exports” also advised the attack operations to retake Kherson. Back then, Russia had a serious lack of troops to hold everywhere, nevertheless, VDV and marine units holding the fronts on the right side of Dnepr gave the AFU zombie attack squads 20k casualties in the first few weeks. Meanwhile AFU spent weeks or months furiously bombarding the Antonovsky bridge with Himars rockets.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 30 2023 21:36 utc | 60

Julian @1 <-- Interesting. No “Thank you!” yet to all of the posters helping him address his ignorance.
You know what it means if he pretends ignorance again of the US bio labs in the Ukraine, right?

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 30 2023 21:41 utc | 62

Today, there can be made none of any validation fron a neutral side, what’s going here on this “war” resp. the SMO.
There are so many of issues on this “war”, I’m not able to follow at a factual manner based on the today’s on-ground infos (ref.to last, Rybar, Dima, etc.)
So, what do we have – onlast infos:
– there was an attack on Moscow Business Center by AFU-Missiles (RF-TV reported ..
so what? That’s normal in a “war”, even Ruissian students should have checked that.
– there was an attack on a very strategically used bridge between Crinea/Mainland,
that was “down”-mentioned by the RF-Mrdia.
– There was a further “lack / losts” of Russian Tanks shelled & finally destroyed by some UAF-Drone attacks.
That’it for so far, BUT the RF has real problems to re-support its troops, even by Bananas ! ..
Cheese is no more available .. pls. enhance that cheese delivery ..!
Then – probably that comrade have died – some mins laater.
That’s it.

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 30 2023 21:42 utc | 64

Posted by: Jake Dee | Jul 30 2023 21:37 utc | 67
I’ve been calling this the Lego brick war for a year, (disperse, concentrate, disperse). I think passive camouflage technologies and more effective anti-drone tactics/platforms will return some of the battlefield’s traditional opacity, so expect to see more automated elephants surrounded by wasps.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 30 2023 21:50 utc | 66

These same officials and media were put on the spot on 7 March when undersecretary of state Victoria Nuland told lawmakers that “biological research facilities” were in fact operating in Ukraine.
Nuland said the United States was “quite concerned” that Russian troops may take control of these labs, and assured that Washington was “working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.”
Posted by: Mexicana | Jul 30 2023 15:00 utc | 5
To me a really big question here is ‘why is it necessary to put these labs in Ukraine?’ and I haven’t seen it posed and/or answered anywhere as yet.
Any more than the same question regarding the labs in China.

Posted by: arthur brogard | Jul 30 2023 21:54 utc | 68

This does not seen fake but I haven’t seen it on other TG channels yet, there is a date but no indication if it’s the dateline or the event time, plus no location or any info, IOW could have been from last year, but seeing the continuing counter offensive fail for the AFU it is likely real and for once “en masse” is reasonably applied. Surrounded squads do surrender but “en masse” with their heavy equipment doesn’t happen in isolation, I sense a disturbance in the force:
Ukraine Troops SURRENDER en-masse; WHITE FLAGS on Tanks
30 JULY 2023
Hundreds of Ukrainian troops, displaying white flags on their tanks and infantry vehicles, surrendered en-masse to Russia today. More and more common as troops see with their own eyes, it is hopeless to continue fighting. Video from the battlefield shows the mass surrender
https://t.me/truthwarfreedom/6030

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 30 2023 22:06 utc | 70

More likely, a prisoner swap?

Posted by: scepticalSOB | Jul 30 2023 22:10 utc | 72

well basically one thing is clear
white people did a big disservice to themselve to make russian people seem as “swowniggers” – well why not break it all at once then? your choice

Posted by: Macpott | Jul 30 2023 22:17 utc | 74

@49 ed
I dont think we disagree, for russia Crimea is key to defending Russia, for nato its just the best place, but not only place, to pressure russia.
Also they don’t want to destroy russia just because they’re crazy. They want to rule the world, which means russian nukes and the space program need to be destroyed. It’s about more than russia for them, the US won the world after ww2 and they aim to keep it, at least in this current neo imperial structure as opposed to direct American rule.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 30 2023 22:20 utc | 76

Budanov seems to have a vivid imagination, suggesting that the Kiev regime and its demoralised troops will embark on a whimsical journey to Crimea in October. Ah, the elusive art of leaving us all in suspense. His grand plan, though, remains shrouded in mystery, leaving us to ponder the depths of their cunning strategy. Truly a masterclass in keeping us on our toes! So, it seems like the ‘summer offensive’ has decided to extend its stay and transform into a fabulous ‘Autumn offensive’.
Who knew military campaigns could have such a sense of fashion?
DRINKS ARE ON ME GUYS.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jul 30 2023 22:30 utc | 78

scepticalSOB @ 78 More likely, a prisoner swap?
A good guess, still there are the white flags on the tanks. For now no cross posting across the TG echo chamber which is odd. I’d say best sit it out for a while.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 30 2023 22:19 utc | 82
This hare was last released a few weeks ago and was thoroughly debunked. A good reason for no cross posting?
It was indeed a prisoner release. There is little evidence to date of other than small groups surrendering, usually with wounded.

Posted by: JohninMK | Jul 30 2023 22:43 utc | 80

So yes, the Donbass has some resources that Blackrock et al. would find very enticing, but I can see why the US would still consider Crimea to be the ultimate prize (setting aside bigger picture issues like the transition to multipolarism etc.)
Posted by: Mouse | Jul 30 2023 17:58 utc | 28
Exactly. It was the threat to their port that made Putin act, I am sure. It is wholly critical to Russia as a State.

Posted by: arthur brogard | Jul 30 2023 23:01 utc | 82

Weeb Union is puzzled why Russia is not moving after its breakthrough in the Luhansk area.
Posted by: young | Jul 30 2023 15:04 utc | 6
The Russians see for themselves what damage drones and artillery can do. When you cross open fields between the hedge rows.
My question is just how much artillery pieces does Ukraine actually have ?
When you read the clobber list ” Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised 102 AFU artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and hardware in 108 areas. ”
It’s been Those kind of artillary figures for well over a year now.Let’s take an average of 70 and multiply by 365 days in the year. That’s over 25 thousand artillery pieces in one year !

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 30 2023 23:19 utc | 84

400 to 500 new Starlink terminals and services for Ukraine , which Elon Musk will not be able to turn off at will

Hmm, in a very limited sense, the warmongers might be able to “make our own reality now” regarding these terminals.
By declaring that Musk can’t turn them off, even though he could, they’re making it a potentially yooge issue for Musk should he consider ever doing so. It could get portrayed as having only been the result of a massive effort by Musk and his engineers to thwart American military security protocols.
In other words, Musk and his people would have to risk becoming portrayed as the moral equivalent of “Russian hackers” by the pro Ukrainian media, Biden administration, and Democrats, and pro-war Republicans, in Congress.
P.S. There is a limit to how much BS can be expected to stick. There’s a reason why Missouri still calls itself the “Show Me State”*, and we still have expressions like “When the rubber meets the road”. Imo we are headed to a watershed moment, one when the water carriers for the proxy war against Russia see their credibility dripping away, and on the verge of becoming so diminished that it will hurt their livelihood, and future prospects. At that point the American public, and the rest of the Western world, will get exposed to a huge dose of reality.
My father was a Readers Digest subscriber, and it was a gung-ho magazine during the Viet Nam war. They had one writer who was very prominent with his skillfully composed articles that extolled how well things were going with the war.
Yadda yadda yadda, eventually he was given the task of writing the article explaining to the extremely patriotic Readers Digest subscribers that America had gone above and beyond in its support for South Viet Nam, but now it was time to lower our flags and head home. You almost had to be there to understand how big a deal it was to say “No Mas”.
We are approaching that moment with Ukraine, and I sort of suspect that this is partly why the West is compelling the AFU to “go big” along the line of contact. The Biden administration knows that for it to be politically feasible to bail out from Ukraine, the Zelenskyy regime would have to be portrayed as comparable to the one of South Viet Nam when we signed off on our efforts there by signalling they should “Endeavor to persevere”, and we then sailed away.
We wrote them a big check first, made some final deliveries of supplies, and our position became one of we gave them everything they needed to win, now they’ll have to do it on their own. With Ukraine it looks different, their dependency is obvious, but in reality the situations are fundamentally the same.
Once we walked away, North Viet Nam pounced, and the Viet Cong became extremely bold. If America walks away from Ukraine, Zelenskyy will call Putin, and try to arrange his survival. I doubt he’d want to front an exile government in Poland, because he knows he’d eventually be a wanted man by the new one that formed in Ukraine. His best hope would be to work with Russia to form a transition government that could arrange a new Constitution, then beat feet to Switzerland because his Neo-Nazi former buddies would want to string him up.
* https://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/history/slogan.asp

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jul 30 2023 23:21 utc | 86

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1685696761287835648
Inside a Russian T 62.
Totally sane crew with very low morale obviously 😐
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 30 2023 23:17 utc | 91
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Posted by: Ed | Jul 30 2023 23:28 utc | 88

“…Is it because there simply is NOT ‘alternative’ media in the UK at all? Or is it that there are NO ‘alternative’ (i.e. sensible, realistic, honest) thinkers in the UK?” arthur brogard @77
There are lots of independent sensible people in the UK. But they are utterly shattered by, and still trying to work out how what happened to Corbyn-and the socialists in the Labour Party.
And well might they be.,

Posted by: bevin | Jul 30 2023 23:46 utc | 90

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 30 2023 23:43 utc | 103
Russia gives their totals at the end of every daily update.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 457 aircraft, 244 helicopters, 5291 unmanned aerial vehicles, 426 anti-aircraft missile systems, 10966 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1140 multiple rocket launchers, 5636 field artillery and mortars, as well as 11920 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

Posted by: Simon | Jul 30 2023 23:55 utc | 92

To me a really big question here is ‘why is it necessary to put these labs in Ukraine?’ and I haven’t seen it posed and/or answered anywhere as yet.
Any more than the same question regarding the labs in China.
Posted by: arthur brogard | Jul 30 2023 21:54 utc | 74

From what I’ve read (too long ago for me to recall where), the US put such labs in many countries. I surmise that the US approached only those countries whose leaders it believed might be sufficiently corrupt and callous toward their people.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 31 2023 0:01 utc | 94

Acc.to “Bio-Labs” in Ukraine :
The RF-Forces – esp. the FSB-GenTechOP – have all those Bio-MIL-Labs located that spread and operating over UKR-State areas since last 10 years.
So, they (RF Medical security) knows also about newly established US/Gates enhancements on new virus- like newly discovered (June 25th) in China today, but those viruses are not yet ‘harmful’.
So wait for another artificial virus lock-down that “ALL” would affect (China/Russia/Europe) but not the so-called South (Africa) .. What’s then ? ..
Better believe on that what You can do and working on the needs what You appreciate ..

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 31 2023 0:05 utc | 96

I dunno how the West has managed to supply them with nearly 6,000 artillery pieces and counting.
They have been planning this for a very long time.
In my view, why you can treat that list of stuff the West are supposed to have sent nearly every month, with a pinch of salt.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 31 2023 0:12 utc | 98

Crimea has been the home of Russia’s Black Sea fleet since Catherine the Great…chances of Russia letting the Ukraine take it over…Zero

Posted by: pyrrhus | Jul 31 2023 0:21 utc | 100