“American and Russian officials are holding talks on possible prisoner trades, US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan told journalists on Friday.”
The veil is completely lifted. But I hope he’s lying. I wouldn’t talk to him.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jul 9 2023 4:00 utc | 204

Re: Take no Prisoners
Works both ways – Barflies be careful what you wish for. The fighting is brutal enough already.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2023 4:12 utc | 206

@ Paul Damascene | Jul 9 2023 4:10 utc | 213
last line in your post – exactly.. thanks paul..

Posted by: james | Jul 9 2023 4:17 utc | 208

Posted by: The Dolphin | Jul 9 2023 4:24 utc | 219
Posted by: Wisco #196 and #201
Yes, yes, you’re literally right. But at this stage of the culture war — that is represented by the SMO — most pro-Russians have opted (yes, quite lazily) for a variety of shorthand terms to describe ALL THAT IS against Russia.
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Yes, but interestingly the two favorite terms – Anglo-Saxon and Nazi both let the Jewish element off the hook even though they are clearly a MAJOR influence in what is happening in Ukraine, both in terms of general ‘US’ and ‘Western’ animus towards Russians (which of course is a long-standing grievance held by central European Jews though now characterized as coming from ‘Anglo Saxons’) and also in terms of who specifically funded and trained all the ‘Nazis’ running around in Ukraine right now.
So yours and Paul Damascene’s explanations make logical sense in a roundabout sort of reasonable way, but also fail to acknowledge how all these terms, for whatever reason, give the Jewish quotient – clearly in the mix – a pass.
That is not an accident. This is not ‘laziness.’ It’s by design. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that, as usual:
We are being played!!
(It’s the case nearly all the time in public affairs, what basis do we have for believing this huge mess in Ukraine is different?)

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 9 2023 4:37 utc | 210

POW Azov Commanders, itching to get back into the fight, released back to Ukraine.. I suspect with the full and complicit knowledge of Russia. (A little public grumbling from Peskov to ‘sell’ the story).
Keep tabs on their whereabouts, and next time they get together for a decent sized meeting with other commanders, knock on the door with a Kaliber. A little more DeNazification complete, some more command/control/decision making capability reduced, and commanders/generals that were previously off the radar are also eliminated.
(Don’t ask the minutiae/how/mechanics of they keep tabs on them, but if Apple can find my phone in a remote valley 600km from the nearest crossroads, then I have no doubt there are various technical tracking methods out there we are unaware of…and about 1000 non technical methods.)

Posted by: DDK | Jul 9 2023 4:42 utc | 212

I see we have a problem with historical knowledge, that is in not knowing nearly enough or how the past connects with the present. Some of the questions currently being posed were provided with answers several times over the last 10 years or so since I’ve been a barfly; I know because I answered some of them. And thus one of the great drawbacks of Moon of Alabama is revealed–the lack of a good reference library of commentary going back to the bar’s opening under Bilmon so such questions can easily be answered by the curious prior to their asking in threads, which would greatly facilitate discourse. This point is known as Prior Knowledge. In academia it’s also known as a prerequisite–you must have attained certain knowledge to advance to the next level.
Another problem is much is missed as all too often something important is wedged within a bunch of nonsense, troll gibberish, or other distractions and is thus bypassed. Such is often the case with long comments, and even more so with documents that aren’t completely read–something I see all the time at my VK because I get stats on how far viewers read until they exit, and rarely over 40% get to the end.
IMO, the easiest way to sow FUD is to constantly ask questions, particularly in a contrarian manner; and we see that daily. Frankly, after years of seeing it daily, one gets tired of dealing with it and shines it on most of the time. One of the reasons many of us valued Outraged is because he would challenge much of that swill. But swatting fleas gets old quick and so you apply the mental version of deet.
To study and know history is critical, but too few do so. Such knowledge is the quickest and surest way to overturn an Establishment Narrative. Then there’s the inculcated need for instant gratification–we want to know what we need to know now and without too much bother, thank you. And there’s no way to get a deep understanding of history and why and how in connects to now in that manner. So, people don’t bother because it’s too much work when swilling beer and watching sports or wo/men seems more important. For example, the genuine, original German/Hiterian/Nazi Plan Ost was recently published in Russian for the benefit of the Russian people who never before had the opportunity to read it in their own language. Of course, billions of other people have never read the whole thing either, and it’s not something you can find on the shelf of your local library. I’ve read many thousands of pages about WW2 but had never read that entire document in any language, although I had read portions. I was astounded and thought of what had been said about the WEF’s Great Reset and also thought about its historical motivators, like the genocide of Amerindians exclusively within the USA despite the efforts by Canada to duplicate it. And prior to that there’s the Era of Enclosure within Europe, and in the mid to late 1400s the trio of Papal Bulls that made most of humanity untermeschen and select Christians Nazis.
I see this is now the 5th paragraph and most have already ceased reading or passed by completely, so I’ll end with this last bit of witticism whose author is unknown to me: Those who fail to study history are bound to repeat it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2023 4:49 utc | 214

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2023 4:49 utc | 228
I tend to read every word of your posts. I don’t always (or often, even) reply, but trust me, for one; you’re not being ignored or glossed over by the barflies who actually possess intellectual curiosity or respect for your long history of excellent commentary here.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 4:53 utc | 216

Allow me to add more excerpts from the Medium post that I cited and linked above so as to disabuse anyone who lacks in historical knowledge of certain assumptions.

Dr. Hiram W. Evans, in “Negro Suffrage — Its False Theory” sounds eerily familiar to Nazi rhetoric. Evans writes, “The first essential to the success of any nation and particularly of any democracy is a national unity of mind” that does not have mixing what soever. According to Evans, “They must have common instincts and racial and national purpose,” and the introduction of inferior “alien races” such as “Chinese, Japanese, and Hindus” would undermine that unity. No matter what education occurs, according to Evans, the “races can never exist together in complete peace and friendship” or equality.
Evans’ language sounds similar to Hitler’s in Mein Kampf where he writes that wherever “the people who grant [Jews] hospitality are bound to be bled to death sooner or later” because the Jewish presence “poisons the blood of others but preserves his own blood unadulterated,” thus leading to a decline in the “pure” race. This “poisoning” occurs due to the lecherous attitude of the Jewish youth [who] lies in wait for hours on end, satanically glaring at and spying on the unsuspicious girl whom he plans to seduce, adulterating her blood and removing her from the bosom of her own people.” Hitler echoes the South’s fears of race mixing and the predatory stereotype of Black men and Evans echoes Hitler’s thoughts on the poisoning of the “pure” race.
We do not learn this information when we study World War II. Rather, we learn about the heroic, and yes they were heroic, acts of valor, sacrifice, and survival in the name of democratic ideals. However, the hyper patriotic, all noble image of the United States’ and the Allies’ role in World War II overshadows the ways that what happened in Nazi Germany and elsewhere did not spring out of nothingness. We talk about anti-Semitism in Europe, yes, and its long legacy, especially in central and eastern Europe, but we ignore anything that would remotely implicate the United States and other Western nations in the atrocities of the Holocaust and the war. This includes the parasitic ideas of white supremacy that have permeated the United States for centuries, leading to the codification of laws that directly discriminated against individuals based on race, laws that, even if appealed today, continue to wreak havoc on the lives of generations.

So again, Hitler and the Nazis hatred of Jews wasn’t by any means confined to the so-called power of “Global Jewry” (h/t Martin Heidegger) but was borne of and built upon the abject racism/anti-Semitism of the typical ignorant and horny young teen or man in his 20s – “young, dumb and full of cum” to put it crudely. IOW, this wasn’t about the bankers or the entertainers or the media – per se – but instead about pure unadulterated racism directed at Jews….AND Slavs, Gypsies/Roma, negroes, Asiatics and otherwise “non-Aryan” peoples of the world. Stop intellectualizing the fucking Hitler and the Nazis. They were racist scum, and you can’t even say that about Stalin. Think about that for a minute.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 5:00 utc | 218

I, too, lost a few family members in the fight against Nazis in WWII. I also lost a few to lung cancer, heart disease, and alcoholism after the war. It doesn’t change the fact that there were 20,000 Americans in attendance in NYC at the Nazi rally in the 1930s, nor that Americans aided, abetted and rooted for Hitler and the Nazis, nor that Anglo Saxons in Latin America and the USA and Canada gave immediate comfort, shelter and a new life to a ton of Nazis who fled Germany after WWII to avoid being prosecuted for their crimes. Many took part in the deadly actions of far-right Central- and South-American regimes for multiple decades thereafter – with full support of the American (and British) governments and wealthy elites. Obviously very few of whom identified as Jews, much less practiced Judaism.
So if anyone can point me to the same level of support for leftist regimes or ideas – rather than simmering hatred or outright sabotage/violence – I’d really appreciate it. And Christian “evangelicals” and Puritans? Like it or not, but we’re all judged in some circles on the actions of those who we elevate to “elite” status, and Anglo-Saxon elites have always been pretty much white supremacists. Or Nazis of some stripe or another. I guess it’s more than a little ironic that the Zionist Jew right-wingers in control of Israel are doing an excellent job of mimicking the rhetoric, actions and policies of those that allegedly led them to settle in and colonize Palestine.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 5:07 utc | 220

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2023 5:06 utc | 235
Indeed. And the Medium article I posted cites the death toll at 11,000,000 – of which “only” about 5-6 million were Jews. They were equal opportunity racists. Plain and simple. Had there been a large “negro” population in Europe at the time, they doubtless too would have added to that big number.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 5:09 utc | 222

Posted by: Wisco | Jul 9 2023 5:08 utc | 237–
You are dead wrong. You can reach my VK by clicking my hyperlinked name below. However, you must be a VK member to comment, which is no different from any other social media platform.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2023 5:24 utc | 224

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 9 2023 5:34 utc | 247
Then why do you never comment on the NON-Jewish contingent pushing the FUKUSNATOUkraine war on Russia, the Slavs, Asians, Latin Americans, etc.? You know – Joe Biden? The entire German leadership? NATO?
Why are you so focused on JOOOOOOOOOOOZ, man? Was George W. Bush a Jew? Dick Cheney? Bill Clinton? Madeleine Albright converted to Catholicism at an early age. Barack Obama? Killary? Fukuyama? DeSantis? Tony Blair? Newt Gingrich? Karl Rove? Clapper? Dulles? ETC. ETC. ETC.
I’m a little annoyed to have to admit this, but Dolphin is right. You’ve got a goddamned Jew bee in your bonnet and it’s starting to look more and more like pure unadulterated bullshit “informed” by some kernels of truth.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 5:42 utc | 226

Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 5:35 utc | 248–
Thanks Tom. Do take note of those books and download them. Both are very important for both their content and where the evidence for their narrative was found. One of the reasons I insist of primary source material.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2023 5:52 utc | 228

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2023 5:52 utc | 254
Not sure which books you reference in that particular reply or my comment that you cited, but I have read Stinnnett’s “Day of Deceit” and find it incredibly compelling. One wonders about 9/11 too, in that context. The warnings were there.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 5:56 utc | 230

@ watcher | Jul 9 2023 5:30 utc | 244
as i thought…. reported..

Posted by: james | Jul 9 2023 5:58 utc | 232

This Azov prisoner swap gives Putin just the excuse he needs not to visit Turkey.
The West is desperate to get rid of Putin. I think they’d make a serious attempt to assassinate him in Turkey, and neither Erdoğan nor Putin (obviously!) want this.
The swap also reminds people that the leaders of Azov were hardcore ethnonationalists (I hesitate to call them “Nazis”, because one of the fundamental tenets of Nazism was extreme anti-Semitism, whereas the Ukrainian nationalists’ primary hatred is towards Russians, not Jews – and their sponsor Kolomoiskyy and Zelenskyy are “Jews” as well).

Posted by: Observer | Jul 9 2023 6:13 utc | 234

@ Observer | Jul 9 2023 6:13 utc | 268
there ought to be a new label for those who hate russians or slavs, like the label nazi was used for those who hated the jews… the russia/slav hate is a new form of it.. until it comes along, i guess many will just use russiophobes, but it is much worse then this as we see… i recommend the book ‘creating russiophobia’ by guy mettan fwiw..
creating russiophobia it’s been going on for a good 1000 years, but has picked up a lot of momentum the past few years..

Posted by: james | Jul 9 2023 6:20 utc | 236

Posted by: Ed | Jul 8 2023 19:02 utc | 58
Well it’s a good question, and the answer is we don’t know. My guess is that they are transferred to Bachmut, because that’s the only place the offensive is making some headway.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Jul 9 2023 6:30 utc | 238

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 6:13 utc | 267
The Anglo-Saxons have tried to rule the Earth since the fall of the Roman empire. The Jews, Catholics or any other religion certainly haven’t.
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HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Now who has a bee in their bonnet??!!!
Unless you mean the Spanish, Japanese, Mongols, Mogols and more are all ‘Anglo-Saxons!’
You should have quit when you were ahead. Like I said before, best to drop it. Points have been made. Agreement is not the necessary outcome of every interchange. The board here is more like different points of light, like in a night sky. Some stars shine brighter than others perhaps, but all create an overall pattern that is informative and valuable. I don’t think it’s ever all that helpful to try to bend someone else to conform to your own point of view.
Speaking about different points of view: I read this fascinating article in Beshara Magazine a couple of days ago about the Kogi tribe in Columbia. Their elders are trained from childhood by spending 18 years in caves without sunlight learning to ‘hear’ the Mother in darkness. Then they emerge and understand many things. Recently they have come to the belief that they have things which they understand which they must communicate to their ‘younger brothers’ which is what they call all of us modern people, Jew, Gentile and whatever. But after thirty or more years they have made little progress. Some. But it’s very heavy going. They have a different view of the world and reality so even though, after four hundred years of deliberate separation, they have finally allowed some of their young people to learn Spanish to facilitate communication, which is helping, the fact is that communicating different perspective is extremely difficult, both sending and receiving. There are a couple of youtubes about the interface between this tribe – some say the last ancient pre-modern fully intact civilization, i.e. more than just a lost tribe – and how difficult it is for them to communicate with us and vice versa.
They have very special ways of drawing maps (which resemble Chinese meridian diagrams). They have decided, after decades of debate, not to share them fully, but partially. Why not fully? ‘What happens,’ asked the elder to the film maker, ‘if a bad person reads a good book?’ The answer was not satisfactory so the information is not being shared. (Because they know all too well that what Karlof often writes about in terms of plunder imperative we have demonstrated is true.) They say they know how to repair the planet before it is too late and are ready and willing to do so. But we are a very touch nut to crack and so far they haven’t even managed to be able to be fully in charge of the area they have lived in for centuries and which is now being ruined by power plants and factories placed in ecologically key areas destroying habitats not only in the immediate area but further up in the mountains. They are training new elders in Costa Rica and Peru but they too make little headway dealing with modern governments all indoctrinated with this age’s most widespread superstition, scientific (aka physical) materialism.
And so it goes. Communication is an important thing. And it don’t always come easy!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 9 2023 6:38 utc | 240

Yeah, I mean how stupid I was. All those Jap/Mongol/Chinese/Russky colonies in Africa, Oceania, North and South America and Europe. Those imperialist bastards. And yes, let’s allow for the Japanese, but still. FFS, it’s FINANCE CAPITAL that is your enemy. The Anglo-Saxons are slave to FINANCE CAPITAL and they are also its co-MASTERS.
When will the Chinese be invading Mexico, Scorpion? Or Africa? Or India even?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 6:42 utc | 242

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jul 8 2023 18:45 utc | 54
Your list of possible conditions make sense. I wonder if now wouldn’t be a good time for the Russians to make their demands public. I would create a manifest alternative to forever war, no matter how despised it would be in western media.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Jul 9 2023 6:46 utc | 244

I don’t know if this post is going to get lost amidst all of the anglo-american stuff, but regarding the repatriation of Azovstal commanders to Ukraine: credit where credit is due. The US clearly used a bit of diplomacy to try to drive a wedge between Turkey and Russia, and it is clearly working judging by the reactions so far. I have no idea what they gave up to do it, but I suspect it is somethin substantial given that Turkey didn’t even bother informing Russia of the fact ahead of time.
In the big picture, this is probably meaningless, but I guess any step that furthers US/NATO goals, no matter how tin, should be viewed as a victory in the short run. If nothing else, it replaces headlines regarding cluster bombs and failed offensives.

Posted by: Camacho In Chief | Jul 9 2023 7:19 utc | 246

@karlof1 228
“ugly” in what way?

Posted by: AG | Jul 9 2023 7:31 utc | 248

The war ends when all the funding in the world cannot buy more factory output.

Arch – a good insight and worthy question to ponder.
However, I think NATO does have the ability to ramp up munitions factory output by-orders-of-magnitude given a 3-5 year horizon. Lots of limitations of course, but throw enough resources and with a few years – output could go sky high.
My guess is de-dollarization will happen sooner than a munitions ramp up. So we are kinda in agreement 🙂
TBD

Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2023 7:52 utc | 250

Posted by: Camacho In Chief | Jul 9 2023 7:19 utc | 252
More kow towing by Putin to Turkey. A mountainous country that would be impossible to conquer, considering that is the homeland of two empires, one Catholic/Orthodox, and one Muslim. The control of the bosporus is one of those world fractal anamolies. It is quite unique.
The control of it gives Turkey, therefore Erdogan, but I won’t say NATO exactly,great power. It’s a slap in the face to Putin, a “How dare you”
Turkey, NATO, Israel are still really mad about Russia ending their chaos and ambitions in Syria. I doubt Putin will repay in kind when Erdogan comes hat in hand. He understands this game. It’s brutal, Erdogan shot down one of his jets, but Putin still gave him grain deal, and may have to again, because.Rusdia controls Sevastopol, but Turkey controls Istanbul.
So Russia and Turkey need each other, but they dont have to like it.
Russia has the big balancer, though, so Turkey has to be careful, therefore, closing the Bosporus really isn’t an option, because although Turkey is almost unconquerable, Russia wouldn’t need to conquer Istanbul, to reopen the straits.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 9 2023 7:57 utc | 252

Posted by: Waymad | Jul 9 2023 7:52 utc | 251
Or, maybe more long term, humint tracking. Perhaps Erdogan is underhandedly giving Putin an intelligence gift, in preparation for the meeting, while NATO perceiving it as an insult. They gonna need to build new contacts, bevause many old are dead.
And Russian humint in Ukraine is vastly underestimated.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 9 2023 8:05 utc | 254

@LightYearsFromHome
Gold reserves:
US 8133
Germany 3355
Italy 2452
France 2457
Russia 2427
China 2068
All others well below 1000 ton

Posted by: RB | Jul 9 2023 8:08 utc | 256

Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 9 2023 4:30 utc
Nothing is ever that simple.
Predictably, I cannot find the exact quote, but Hermann Müller (Chancellor Germany 1928-1930) said that the two largest German banks were funding the Nazis and that both had Jewish bosses…
I can’t speak for the American perspective, but things don’t add up when you consider how fast the Brits were pushed out of Palestine after the war. The Sergeants affair was the finisher, but the King David hotel is another from memory.
As usual, something smells.

Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Jul 9 2023 8:15 utc | 258

Selensky imported five Azov characters who can explain to him all the intrinsics of surrendering and living in Exile.
Maybe that’s a good sign ..

Posted by: Marvin | Jul 9 2023 8:17 utc | 260

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 9 2023 8:18 utc | 261
us managed to lose a lot of wars before Woke, and in any case I’m not sorry to see the US war machine hampered.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 9 2023 8:25 utc | 262

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 9 2023 8:16 utc | 259
Bottom line NATO countries have more gold than BRICS. The idea of basing a new BRICS currency on gold is not sound.

Posted by: RB | Jul 9 2023 8:28 utc | 264

Journalists:
Will u return to the front?
Prokopenko:
Certainly!
This is why we return to Ukraine
We want to kill as much Russians as possible
This is our main goal!
Vladimir u Kamikaze 5d chessmaster
Every dead russian killed by these Nazi scum
will be on ur head.
Even if u planed to throw Russia under the bus
ur NatoNaziFriendly headless SMO kills more Russians

Posted by: Hartz4ukr | Jul 9 2023 8:37 utc | 266

And that is just the start of the deleterious woke mind virus.
Posted by: UWDude | Jul 9 2023 8:18 utc | 261
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Advancements in green technologies particularly energy storage systems such as lithium batteries is not some deleterious woke mind virus, look around.

Posted by: John2007 | Jul 9 2023 8:45 utc | 268

Posted by: Hartz4ukr | Jul 9 2023 8:37 utc | 266
So the 5 Azov dudes have opinions or statements..? Everyone has opinions.
Let’s suppose what they stated is true, they get thrown to the Melitopol campaign. An AFU Marder vehicle drops them off 3km from the trench, they start moving toward the trench, get spotted and hit with the shell. Boom, game over, no one will remember them after a day.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 9 2023 8:55 utc | 270

Some Random Passerby | Jul 9 2023 8:15 utc
Well I’m a dozy boy (lack of caffeine is my excuse). Even got the chancellor wrong…
The quote;
“I did not and do not even today, for understandable reasons, wish to reveal that from October 1928 the two largest regular contributors to the Nazi Party were the general managers of two of the largest Berlin banks, both of Jewish faith, and one of them the leader of Zionism in Germany.”
Heinrich Bruning, former chancellor of Germany from 1930- 1932

Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Jul 9 2023 9:00 utc | 272

The swap also reminds people that the leaders of Azov were hardcore ethnonationalists (I hesitate to call them “Nazis”, because one of the fundamental tenets of Nazism was extreme anti-Semitism, whereas the Ukrainian nationalists’ primary hatred is towards Russians, not Jews – and their sponsor Kolomoiskyy and Zelenskyy are “Jews” as well).
Posted by: Observer | Jul 9 2023 6:13 utc | 234
Yawn. Stop repeating those stale mantras already. A hundred thousand partial jews, and thousands of full jews, served in the nazi forces. Jews played both sides the whole time. Just call the current generation of nazis “kosher nazis” and all is clear.

Posted by: Mike | Jul 9 2023 9:06 utc | 274

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 9 2023 9:23 utc | 275
that doesn’t surprise me, Biden has been pretty pro Israel, I can’t remember anything he has opposed them on offhand.

Posted by: pretzeattack | Jul 9 2023 9:27 utc | 276

Advancements in green technologies particularly energy storage systems such as lithium batteries is not some deleterious woke mind virus, look around.
Posted by: John2007 | Jul 9 2023 8:45 utc | 268
The woke mind virus is not the technology. It is destroying what has already been built, before building what is to replace it. The reason plants are shut down, and pipelines stopped, passes by the eco-bureaucracy’s mond without noticing how much dirty energy they use.
For example, electric cars ate only green if the power feeding them is “green”. And what “green” is, has changed like everything else, where men can be women, and dams are no longer green. Dams are a great source of industrial scale energy, and the salmon are fine, due to sensible environmental action by a sensible government for 70 years.
So, in 20 years, the green infrastructure might be there to run a war machine.
But if you want to go to war now, good luck trying to power up real industry through the small eco-bureaucracies. They are ideologues. The price would be very high.
Nordstream was blown up, Keystone shut down.
That’s a draw, and America rejoices in both.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 9 2023 9:36 utc | 278

Hmm…Correct me if I am wrong because I am not at all an expert in this area of the world, but I thought that both Erdogan and Netanyahu both got along well with Putin and absolutely detest Biden (?)
Either way, I wonder what the lifespan of these returned commanders is going to be…
Posted by: Comacho in Chief | Jul 9 2023 8:07 utc | 255
Erdogan shot down a Russian jet when Russia first intervened in Syria. Many say Russia warned Erdogan of the Gulenest Coup, but how soon before? Erdogan was quite rushed and surprised, so perhaps Russias warning was ignored, but either way, its fanciful to think Erdogan hayed Russia enough to shoot down a plane sent to set his Turkish proxies in Syria to Idlib, but after couo, think they are friends. Turkey later worked with Russia near Idlib in joint peacekeeping patrols, and Turkey also said hed rather buy s400s than f-35s. So Turkey is somewhat friendly to Russia, compared to rest of NATO, but it is tenuous.
Israel, of course, bombs Syrian Arab Army, which surely is a Russian ally, as well as pulled that stunt that killed 15 Russians in Syria, by tricking Syria into shooting down a Russian cargo plane.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 9 2023 9:52 utc | 280

@270
But meanwhile they will kill & torture lots of russians
they will record their cruel crimes and show on tiktok
the victims families wont be so delighted by ur Marders
they will ve lots of questions

Posted by: miska | Jul 9 2023 9:55 utc | 282

@Sunny Runny Burger 273
thx very much!
do we happen to have similiar academic papers for the time post 2002 ?

Posted by: AG | Jul 9 2023 10:17 utc | 284

@LightYearsFromHome | Jul 9 2023 8:39 utc | 267
Location of the Italian gold reserves:
UK 141.2 t
Switzerland 149.3 t
USA 1061.5
Italy 1100.0
On top of that, in 1999 141 t were transferred to the ECB, those would be transferred back if Italy were to leave the ECB.

Posted by: SG | Jul 9 2023 10:47 utc | 286

256 Gold Reserves
US 8133
Germany 3355
Italy 2452
France 2457
Russia 2427
China 2068
It is well known fact in the ‘gold’ community that China has much, much more gold reserves than they disclose.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 9 2023 11:28 utc | 288

Posted by: bobzibub | Jul 9 2023 3:17
“How does the government provide the funds to the primary dealers to buy the debt ?”
I will post it on the non Ukraine thread as it is off topic.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 9 2023 11:48 utc | 290

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 9 2023 4:49 utc | 214
Karlofi’s post is, for me, one of the most relevant ones on the blog. I agree with it entirely.
Knowledge of history, of the past, is crucial for understanding the present, for understanding as such.
The past is never past, it is always part of the present in many and subtle ways. The past, history, is the wider context in which humans, as individuals, and as groups weave their existence and their interactions.
Without history we can not understand why things are the way they are, and how we arrived there. If that is so, what guides us in imagining and creating the future? Illusions, myths, misconceptions, lies, suspect agendas…
But, as you all probably know, history is an unpopular subject in education, constantly being cut and set aside. The modern age of finance capitalism and technology favors a blank slate, speed and and no looking back, because you may fall behind. Comical, and tragic. Indepth study, reflection, critical thought, the desire and need to understand, to expand one’s horizons is not the ideal of our time. But it can always be a chosen way to live. I would say – the best way.

Posted by: JB | Jul 9 2023 11:56 utc | 292

SG @ 288
If you believe the accounting it’s all fine and dandy. After 2008 you’d have to be pretty gullible to believe any accounting from highfalutin sources. Central banks since their creation have allowed no auditing not that it matters much as the auditing would be as fraudulent as the rating agencies were that enabled the 2008 “crash” crash being the distraction jargon for looting which is the precise and correct term. One thing I’m certain of, the citizens of the USA and Italy will never see “their” gold or get to benefit from it as collateral for life improvements.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 9 2023 12:03 utc | 294

Posted by: It Shits | Jul 9 2023 11:55 utc | 296
Russian didn’t invade in 2022. Russia was invited in as peacekeepers by the internationally recognized DPR and LPR. Russia intervened in 2022.
Same as NATO intervening in 2014

Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2023 12:04 utc | 296

So I heard that Ukrainians got through the first Russian line of defense somewhere three days ago.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jul 9 2023 12:24 utc | 298

“3) every time a country ( Germany for example) asks for the portion of its Gold reserves held in the US to be returned; it’s delay, delay, delay, and then after a couple of years only a portion of the request gets returned.
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Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2023 9:31 utc | 277”
—IIRC the gold returned to Germany was not the gold that Germany had had on deposit: the bars were stamped differently. This ought to give you some idea of how fast and loose the USA plays with the gold it holds in “trust.”

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 9 2023 12:55 utc | 300