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July 22, 2023

The U.S. Wars Against Russia And China Have No Economic Logic Attached To Them

The U.S. politician Zbigniew Brzezinski was a hardliner with a (neo-)liberal core. He had a wide influence on U.S. policies:

Brzezinski is the author of The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives, a 1997 book on geopolitics that was based on Mackinder’s Heartland Theory. Brzezinski argued that the US could retain global supremacy only if it prevented the emergence of a single power on the World-Island.

The Brzezinski Doctrine remains influential in the US foreign-policy establishment. His protégés, among them Ukrainian émigré Victoria Nuland, undersecretary of state for political affairs, are a powerful voice in the US State Department.

Brzezinski had argued that without Ukraine, Russia would be unable to rule the Asian heartland and could not challenge U.S. power.

But I just learned via a Pepe Esobar essay about Henry Kissinger's visit and a potential great power war with China, that Brezezinski had in later years changed his mind:

“The Grand Chessboard”, published in 1997, before the 9/11 era, argued that the US should rule over any peer competitor rising in Eurasia. Brzezinski did not live to see the living incarnation of his ultimate nightmare: a Russia-China strategic partnership. But already seven years ago – two years after Maidan in Kiev - at least he understood it was imperative to "realign the global power architecture".

In a longer piece published in 2016 in American Interest, Brzezinski indeed argued for great power cooperation:

A constructive U.S. policy must be patiently guided by a long-range vision. It must seek outcomes that promote the gradual realization in Russia (probably post-Putin) that its only place as an influential world power is ultimately within Europe. China’s increasing role in the Middle East should reflect the reciprocal American and Chinese realization that a growing U.S.-PRC partnership in coping with the Middle Eastern crisis is an historically significant test of their ability to shape and enhance together wider global stability.

The alternative to a constructive vision, and especially the quest for a one-sided militarily and ideologically imposed outcome, can only result in prolonged and self-destructive futility. For America, that could entail enduring conflict, fatigue, and conceivably even a demoralizing withdrawal to its pre-20th century isolationism.

The U.S. did not follow Brzezinski's advice. It alienated China by launching an economic war against it and pushed the Ukraine into a proxy-war against Russia that was supposed to destroy Russia's capabilities. In consequence Russia and China united their capabilities against their common new enemy, the United States of America. We will see during the next years if the consequences Brzezinski foretold for the U.S. under these circumstances will come into light.

It is interesting that the old rivals and political opponents Kissinger and Brzezinski have late in their lives come to the same conclusions.

As Stephen Roach in his take on Kissinger's visit to China states:

For several years, Kissinger has expressed great concern over the worrisome state of the US-China relationship. As far back as late 2019, he warned that that the United States and China were already in the “foothills of a new cold war.” Given the trajectory of conflict escalation in the ensuing four years, there is a new urgency to his concerns. In the Chinese readout of this week’s meeting with [Defense Minister] Li Shangfu, Kissinger is reported to have said. “Neither the United States nor China can afford to treat the other as an adversary.  If the two countries go to war, it will not lead to any meaningful results for the two peoples.”

Opposition to the U.S. bi-partisan policy of economic warfare against China is now also coming from the bigwigs of the U.S. economy:

Leaders of the largest US chipmakers told Biden officials this week that the administration should study the impact of restrictions on exports to China and pause before implementing new ones, according to people familiar with their discussions.

During meetings in Washington on Monday, Intel Corp.’s Pat Gelsinger, Nvidia Corp.’s Jensen Huang and Qualcomm Inc.’s Cristiano Amon warned that export controls risk harming US leadership of the industry. The Biden officials listened to the presentations but didn’t make any commitments, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the talks were private.

Economic logic provides that the U.S. (and European) economy would be better off by avoiding a conflict with Russia and China. But, as Micheal Hudson explains, this now gets overwritten by national security preferences which have remarkable conseqences:

Instead of isolating Russia and China and making them dependent on U.S. economic control, U.S. unipolar diplomacy has isolated itself and its NATO satellites from the rest of the world – the Global Majority that is growing while NATO economies are rushing ahead along their Road to Deindustrialization. The remarkable thing is that while NATO warns of the “risk” of trade with Russia and China, it does not see its loss of industrial viability and economic sovereignty to the United States as a risk.

This is not what the “economic interpretation of history” would have forecast. Governments are expected to support their economy’s leading business interests. So we are brought back to the question of whether economic factors will determine the shape of world trade, investment and diplomacy. Is it really possible to create a set of post-economic NATO economies whose members will come to look much like the rapidly depopulating and de-industrializing Baltic states and post-Soviet Ukraine?

This would be a strange kind of “national security” indeed. In economic terms it seems that the U.S. and European strategy of self-isolation from the rest of the world is so massive and far-reaching an error that its effects are the equivalent of a world war.

The question is really why the U.S. is doing this harm to itself instead of following Brzezinski's and Kissinger's advice. As Yves Smith says in her preface to Hudson's piece, it is a quite bizarre spectacle:

One of the subthemes of the latest offering from Michael Hudson on the bizarre spectacle of the US escalating against China is puzzlement that the West is not operating in its best interest. Lambert has been chewing over this conundrum too.

Perhaps it’s that they really do believe their propaganda, and still don’t recognize that the military and economic clout of the US/EU bloc on a relative basis isn’t anywhere near substantial enough for them to push the rest of the world around. But you think their self-delusion would have started to crack with the failure in their efforts to pressure many countries, such as India and South Africa, to side with the US and condemn Russia’s actions in Ukraine, and now with the supposedly superior US/NATO war machine not performing too well.

Another possibility is the so-called Iron Law of Institutions, that individuals and interests are operating to maximize their own position, with little/no concern to the impact on the system.

I have come to the conclusion that the main actors in this game, the Bindens, Blinkens, Sullivans and their bipartisan supporters, are driven by a blind ideology that has dismissed or replaced global realities with wishful thinking.

The failure of their sanctions against Russia should have demonstrated to them that the real word is by far not the one in which they believe to be living. They however are now repeating their errors by waging a similar war against China.

It will not end well for the people they are supposed to lead.

Posted by b on July 22, 2023 at 17:12 UTC | Permalink

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If the RoW Block had not been violently kept from developing for the last 100+ years they would be highly developed and consuming most if not all of their resources. The West would not be half of what it is now. The US but particularly EU as they have very little resources of their own. What is happening now is the RoW, BRICKS+ empowered mainly by Russia and China are developing at break neck speed. They are increasing their consumption by leaps and bounds and have the potential to quickly require all the resources they can get their hands on leaving the West to scramble for scraps and pay much more for whatever they can get. This, in a nutshell is what all the fracus is about and why the EU countries are going along with all the belligerents. It truly is existential for everyone concerned. This explains what US foreign policy and military exploits plus CIA shenanigans have been about, and quite successfully I might add.

Posted by: jef | Jul 22 2023 17:19 utc | 1

It will not end well for the people they are supposed to lead.

It was never supposed to end well. The policy of the US has been, for the better part of 4 decades, to destroy its own economic might by building up China. I always chuckle when I see commenters talk of how America wants to "destroy China", I guess this narrative suits certain people with the anti-Western mindset nicely, the underdog China rising out of nowhere to take on the decadent West...

Posted by: Soothsayer | Jul 22 2023 17:20 utc | 2

How do people still admire Xi after praising a war criminal like Kissinger?

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 22 2023 17:24 utc | 3

"I have come to the conclusion that the main actors in this game, the Bindens, Blinkens, Sullivans and their bipartisan supporters, are driven by a blind ideology that has dismissed or replaced global realities with wishful thinking."

They aren't the ones really calling the shots. They are flunkies dancing to the tune of their oligarchical leaders whose corruption is legendary and who sometimes work at cross purposes. Are Blackrock, Raytheon, Exxon, Cargill making them even more money? That's all that matters.

The good of the people means nothing to them. It never has.

Posted by: mtw | Jul 22 2023 17:25 utc | 4

Belarus in Great Power Rivalry -with Ambassador Dmitry Mironchik, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen

An incredibly interesting interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1HbCE1NDf0

See, reflect and share

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Jul 22 2023 17:34 utc | 5

«I have come to the conclusion that the main actors in this game, the «Bindens, Blinkens, Sullivans and their bipartisan supporters»

I am surprised that "b" is so naive to think that those are the "main actors" rather than the public relations team. Frank Zappa was far more realistic when he argued that "Washington DC" was the entertainment division of the Military-Industrial Complex.

«are driven by a blind ideology that has dismissed or replaced global realities with wishful thinking.»

My impressions from the past several decades and what they write in "trade" journals is that the USA strategists are very realistic and quite successful. After all their "wishful thinking" and "blind ideology" have resulted in an expansions of their empire by dozens of new vassals, quite a number of regime changes in their favours, and quite a few "deviant" states invaded and wrecked to teach a lesson to many others.

«The failure of their sanctions against Russia»

It is difficult to quickly crush an economy self-sufficient in fuels and cereals, but it is way too early to know whether they have been successful, I think that USA geopolitical strategists are playing a flexible 10-20 plan. After all the USA took from 1993 to 2014 to take over Ukraine itself, and it had "sanctioned" the USSR from 1946 until 1991 before the latter collapsed.

Another point that "b" seems to make implicitly is that the goal of the USA geopolitical strategists see the Russian Federation as an enemy to defeat, rather than a buffer state on the PRC borders to patiently being to regime change as Ukraine (as Poland, baltics, Finland, Georgia, Romania, etc. were regime changed too).

The fundamental weakness of the USA geopolitical strategy is that the PRC is far more more formidable opponent than the USSR ever was (while the PRC's fundamental weakness is that the party cadres are by and large big property speculators).

Posted by: Blissex | Jul 22 2023 17:35 utc | 6

Murdering Russian reporters with US cluster ammunition probably won't stir Putin to battle his opposite number and his Neo-Nazi administration. I mean, what would?

Memory lapse or my willful repression: Who were the other "stay the course" politicians?

Oh,United States presidents George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan. Must be the right thing, right?

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jul 22 2023 17:35 utc | 7

reply to Inkan1969 #2, No political leader deserves respect or admiration. They deserve nothing but constructive criticism. When Xi mentions Kissinger he's speaking to American true believers, US corporate media and the delusional frat boys in War-shintgton. Xi knows his audience and self promotion, to get the medias attention it is a re-try of old ideas to move the conversation away from the militarist ideological all American pro war cultists. Politely, politicians should live in fear of public wrath.

Posted by: Bill Miner | Jul 22 2023 17:40 utc | 8

thanks b...

people change, but it is harder for countries to change direction.. the usa and friends have adopted a particular ideology of the greatest and the best, etc. etc. - but it no longer lines up with the reality.. and, they ignore the wisdom of other cultures and different ways of expressing on the world stage, politically and in other ways too.. thus, the west limits itself and remains largely stuck in the past.. the fact these 2 ideologists - kissinger and brzizinski are capable of changing their ideas speaks well of them.. too bad the hubris-tic neo cons who continue to call the shots in the west are still largely in charge.. i am sure it is not the wishes of the people of these countries to adopt these worn out ideologies... alas, i hope for a change, but it might be a costly one.. if a country and its people are incapable of seeing how they are no longer the cutting edge and that they have no right to demand others to follow a particular line of action, then they are ultimately doomed as well..

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2023 17:40 utc | 9

Well, Russia and China have been working on their own “Grand Chessboard” for a couple of decades as well. Since the West advertised its intent out of the egos & narcissistic natures, there wasn’t any particular “West” action that “pushed” them together, not any now, that can “pull” them apart. It’s simply became time to activate the Russo-China plan.

All “NATIONAL” Western States, were globalized, militarized & sold to international banks & corporations decades ago. There are ZERO defenders of the West fall now. It’s why Gates, Musk, Micron CEO, ect have audiences with Xi and Biden doesn’t. The “governances” of the West mean nothing anymore.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jul 22 2023 17:45 utc | 10

Leaders? Whatever happened to Representatives? The United States finally died at Appomatox, replaced by the Federal Usurper. Look at the results....it was meant to be this way.

Posted by: Stefan v. | Jul 22 2023 17:47 utc | 11

You can't really blame the politicians and bureaucrats for thinking the way that they do. After all, they rule over a society of complete idiots. They don't just "think" that. That literally IS the case. Joe Biden isn't the most powerful man on Earth because society is primarily composed of smart and rational people. Alternate theories of democracy don't add up because they can't account for the evidence AS it exists. They just ignore it. Belief in democracy is more like a religion in that it's essentially immune to falsification or contradictory evidence.

Have true believers ever considered the possibility that people are just dumb? Isn't that apparent to you after talking to people about politics all these years? Do these morons appear smart and rational to you?

No matter how stupid a politician or bureaucrat might SOUND to you, just remember that they almost invariably have higher IQ's and are more successful than the average of their constituents. That's a fact. These people rule over complete idiots. It's natural for them to feel a sense of superiority and to think that their opinions are better than the public.

Posted by: Clown World Veteran | Jul 22 2023 17:49 utc | 12

I like Michael Hudson's view on this. They just cannot stand any alternative to the debt peonage model

Posted by: Cresty | Jul 22 2023 17:50 utc | 13

The "logic" is the master-slave logic. US does anything it wants. Look at the newsthis evening: "Three cluster shells from MLRS were fired at the village of Zhuravlevka (Belgorod). As well as 21 artillery shells - Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov" or "Donetsk, Petrovsky district of the capital of the DPR shelled with cluster shells"
Logic? Just because. The paralyzed Russia can't move a finger. No response to the second bridge attack. At first bomb on bridge they simulated something for about 2-3 days. Now only complaining on telegram. Getting people used to the new normal so that no one becomes angry when Minsk 3 happens.

Posted by: rk | Jul 22 2023 17:56 utc | 14

Russia seems so desperate to have good relationship with her perennial enemy Anglo-Saxon race headed by evil england. That explains her inferiority complex and all reaction to western provocation. Always ready to negotiate rather than finish the job at hand. RUSSIA'SURVIVAL DEPENDS ON KILLING ENGLAND AS A NATION STATE OF PARASITES. BUT Russia is Expert in turning almost won war into a quagmire as in Syria in 2016, Donbass in 2015, Ukraine in 2022.

Posted by: Sam | Jul 22 2023 17:56 utc | 15

"..This is not what the “economic interpretation of history” would have forecast. Governments are expected to support their economy’s leading business interests...."

What the "west" is doing is designed to preserve the Capitalist system per se. Both the wars and the cost of the wars are designed to prevent challenges from below to a system which is increasingly seen to be irrational, dangerous to life and in need of replacement.

It is not China but the chance that China might continue on its path of systematically rescuing the poor from the impotence, ignorance and insecurities of life as a wage slave or worse that motivates the Capitalist class in the 'west' in its attacks on China, its potential allies and those populations guilty of straying off the Reservation.

Unhappily, and unusually, 'b's analysis is wrong- among the many reasons for pouring resources into Ukraine is the diversion of social wealth from projects of benefit to the people. They would sooner burn food than give it to the hungry, they would sooner give billions to Zelensky than maintain pension programmes, they would sooner force China to police the South China Sea, navally, than 'rescue' another 100 million from poverty, they would sooner that Russia (and Poland too) doubled the size of its army than that it breach the iron rule that the poor must die young and the old must use all their wealth to pay for medicine. And that housing should be a means of exploiting people rather than a provision of vital shelter.

Yes, capitalist states do seek to advance the interests of the corporations that constitute the economic oligarchy. But Rule #1 is to deter all challenges to the class system itself and the sovereignty of the class which owns the means of production.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 22 2023 18:01 utc | 16

"Generals always fight the last war". That's exactly what the US is doing now: breaking up any cooperation between Germany and Russia, just like McKinder said 120 years ago.

Posted by: Passerby | Jul 22 2023 18:07 utc | 17

Domination is the goal of Western capital. Prosperity for all, China's and socialists goal, is not. Sadly, American subjects have been indoctrinated to believe their affluence depends on colonizing the rest of the world.

Posted by: Wilikins | Jul 22 2023 18:13 utc | 18

Isn't Michels' brilliant idea, referred to in Yves Smith's article as the Iron Law of Institutions, more commonly known as the Iron Law of Oligarchy?

Posted by: Antiwar7 | Jul 22 2023 18:14 utc | 19

Posted by: Clown World Veteran | Jul 22 2023 17:49 utc | 12

The fact that Joe Biden is President of the United States has little to nothing to do with voters. Obama's Night of the Long Knives prior to Super Tuesday secured Biden's nomination after Sanders had won 3 of 4 primary contests. And who knows what happened in November of 2020? That we heard nothing on the liberal MSM but "most secure election EVAH" strikes me as functionally similar to "unprovoked invasion" repeated over and over again.

Bevin, we don't burn the 50% of the food we waste in 'Murca. We put it in landfills.

A system whose primary goal is profit will be both cruel and insane.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jul 22 2023 18:14 utc | 20

"The question is really why the U.S. is doing this harm to itself instead of following Brzezinski's and Kissinger's advice. As Yves Smith says in her preface to Hudson's piece, it is a quite bizarre spectacle:"

Simple; ARROGANCE

... and arrogance, always, always breeds IGNORANCE!

Posted by: Rd | Jul 22 2023 18:21 utc | 21

Re: Posted by: Passerby | Jul 22 2023 18:07 utc | 17

Germany 16 months later is in recession, heading for bankruptcy. I doubt Russia misses “cooperation” consisting of low gas prices & Navanly poison accusations. Doubt Russia is torn up that Germany is official lap dog of US, as it always was occupied.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jul 22 2023 18:22 utc | 22

The problem is the MIC is the only public works project this country can tolerate, so it's the only tool in the tool box.
Government, as executive and regulatory function, is the nervous system, while money and banking are blood and the circulation system. With public government and private banking, the banks rule. So the only job the flunkies allowed in office have, is running up the debt the banks need to back up the system.
What they do with the money isn't as consequential, so the stage actors have devolved into adolescent sociopaths, playing cowboys and Indians wherever they feel their egos questioned .

Posted by: John Merryman | Jul 22 2023 18:24 utc | 23

Actually, Kissinger counselled Nixon to make rapprochement with Russia not China as Kissinger felt that China was the long term obstacle to hegemony -Nixon.

Nixon refused and now it is too late to stop China; instead we have the Thucydides Trap whereby as Athens went to war with Syracuse trying to defeat Sparta as the US is warring with Russia to defeat China.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 22 2023 18:28 utc | 24

The fact that Joe Biden is President of the United States has little to nothing to do with voters.

This is precisely what I'm talking about with the immunity to any and all evidence which contradicts the belief. There is always some ad hoc rationalization or explanation for why it just happens to be the case that the evidence looks like what it looks like. Why would anything that you just said matter if voters were intelligent and rational? Anyone could do any trick or play any game and it wouldn't matter to folks like me because I'm not stupid. So...what's your explanation for why stupid BS propaganda works on some people and not others? Because those people who get duped and bamboozled easily by obviously BS claims are secretly intelligent and rational? Come on, stop being silly. You know what Occam's Razor says, you just don't want to admit it.

In the end, the Joe Biden's and Donald Trumps of the world are the best that these idiots can come up with. Donald Trump won because of name recognition. It's the reason why most people win. Ultimately, policy is too complicated and confusing for stupid people, so they have to rely on their default programmed settings of their brain, which is very simplistic in nature. Good/bad, threat/safe, etc. They've done studies where the order in which a candidates name appears on the ballot has a SUBSTANTIAL impact on the outcome of the vote. That could not be explained if people were intelligent and rational.

Posted by: Clown World Veteran | Jul 22 2023 18:31 utc | 25

I am reminded by Gore Vidal that the Western elites were grossly disappointed that their game of speculation and looting was spoiled by the USSR no longer upholding their side of the game.

But how can you stop the runaway gravy train? So a speculation bubble has been looming behind the West, again, since nothing was really fixed from the last Financial Capitalist crisis of 2008. You'd need a reset of some kind to blame it on another. Yet if Iraq & Afghanistan can no longer justify the next bubble, you'd need another victim-cum-player to war against. Hence the desperation FOR a crisis to maintain justification.

So we get threats of war and sabre rattling against anyone and everyone, especially Russia, China, & Iran of late. However we similarly get perpetual crises for health, climate, drugs, social dissent... anything to keep the tension. Without players to blame & push against, and crises to 'diffuse' (money launder) the bubble tension in further speculation, the system strokes out with an embolism.

Nothing worse than a Casino in hock up to its eyeballs ignored by marks, er, I mean customers... Bills come due.

Posted by: titmouse | Jul 22 2023 18:33 utc | 26

Keep your allies close by slitting their throats (ex: US destruction of Nord Stream)? Yeah, that's working great. What are you going to do, hang their dead and dying bodies from your jerkin as some kind of armor?

Meanwhile, China is making allies by nurturing weak countries' economies. Maybe some of those African countries are jokes to Americans now, but what about after a few years with a partner who isn't pulling the rugs out from under their feet every time they try to stand up? A partner who won't assassinate their best and brightest whenever they try to develop "Socialism with African Characteristics"?

I know many of the non-troll readers here can see those "Arcs of history", where they are headed, and where they crossed. It seems the leadership of the Empire of Delusions is blind to where their decisions are taking them.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 22 2023 18:36 utc | 27

B : **** I have come to the conclusion that the main actors in this game, the Bindens, Blinkens, Sullivans and their bipartisan supporters, are driven by a blind ideology that has dismissed or replaced global realities with wishful thinking.****

Exactly. The new religion -- now amalgamated with LGBT+/Wokism -- of neoliberal (fake) "free market" has been pimped and inflicted throughout the US-empire for decades now.
Absolutely everything and everybody (oligarchs and top fatcats excepted) with a "for sale" price tag and thoroughly disposable.
Speculation and usury the highest forms of 'economy'.
No loyalty to anything but the new religion, and of course its US cult headquarters.

IMHO, well worth destroying the entire world if that's what is needed to finally eradicate that rotten cult and its followers ... because given time, they'll effectively destroy it for everyone else anyway -- and maybe they rely on "non extremists" such as Putin to alway back down and mistakenly compromise.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 22 2023 18:40 utc | 28

Current US global problems started in 2003 when Putin locked Khodorkovski in jail and put remaining oligarchs on short leash. Pro-Western Khodorkovski built #1 oil company in Russia (and secretly sold 50% of it to Exxon and BP), tried to change Russian laws and tried to become president. US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 was nothing else than anticipation of Khodorkovski's victory. With spring 2003 Iraq invasion USA was set to control most world's of oil drilling and oil trading. Supermacy of dollar (always depending on control of key commodities) looked guaranteed for ages and US global political, military, financial and cultural hegemony too. But Putin destroyed it in 2003. No wonder that he is so much hated in Washington.

Posted by: J_Schneider | Jul 22 2023 18:43 utc | 29

(From previous thread)

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jul 22 2023 17:58 utc | 380

>>>Posted by: Guy L’Estrange | Jul 22 2023 12:01 utc | 303
>>> ... it’s not in Russias interest to win too big. NATO is fundamentally stronger than Russia but only if they got their act together.

>>Revelo | Jul 22 2023 15:51 utc | 357
>>One of the few intelligent commentators here. USA continues to be a manufacturing colossus, and joined with its Allies it could easily overwhelm Russia.

>One might think that was all the more reason for Russia to smash the Borderland power and forcibly neutralize it as fast as possible (if Russian capabilities really were/are what the hype says), depriving the slow-to-get-moving colossus its chance in the first place, like how everyone in the West at first thought was a foregone conclusion in the first days of the invasion, before the Russian leadership suddenly begged to negotiate a Minsk III. (And thank you again Boris Johnson for saving the Russian cause from their feckless leadership.)

>Yet the Yes-fanboys have been assuring us for a year and a half now of the opposite, that "Russia has the luxury of infinite time". That's a contradiction.

No contradiction. USA knows Russia has "escalation dominance", which is why USA also doesn't want to waken the sleeping giant of combined Russia/China/Iran waging all-out war on land, sea and space. Sink the USA navy and knock out its satellites and USA empire is crippled. But Russia can't escalate unless provoked, because China doesn't want all out war if not absolutely necessary. USA is forced to pull its punches as long as Russia pulls punches, and vice-versa.

If you think about, China is the real sleeping dragon. Whoever of USA or Russia goes overboard and pisses off China will lose relative to not pissing off China. That is, Russia needs China as an ally, USA needs to avoid giving China reason to openly support Russian war effort.

In case you haven't noticed, USA has never really helped Ukraine like it could. That's because USA wants to lose, but lose slowly, and Russia needs to play along with the USA plan to avoid possible disaster from all sorts of directions: aroused USA (do not underestimate ability of aroused USA and allies to innovate at lightening speed regarding drones), pissed off China, frightened Russian oligarchs, angry Russian military.

To reiterate, USA has always known it must lose in Ukraine. But USA (foolishly, IMO) thought and maybe still thinks a slow war will bleed Russia enough to cause regime change in Russia. If and when USA starts to think slow war is bad for USA, then money and weapons supply to Ukraine will be cut and Ukraine will disappear down the memory hole in the USA mainstream media.

If I were Ukrainian, I would be disgusted by USA. Yes, USA fulfilled its agreement to "help Ukraine fight Russia". But it was half-hearted support, not 100% support like Ukraine expected. Next time (if there is one), read the fine print before making a deal with Uncle Sam.

Posted by: Revelo | Jul 22 2023 18:55 utc | 30

Stefan v. | Jul 22 2023 17:47 utc | 11
*** Leaders? Whatever happened to Representatives? The United States finally died at Appomatox, replaced by the Federal Usurper. Look at the results....it was meant to be this way.***

Note how nowadays the mass media always calls MPs and similar "Law Makers".

Really? More like the political establishment's self aggrandising scum inadvertently betraying the fact that thanks to an utterly corrupt system they have promoted themselves far above their righful station .... which is supposedly of public servants / representatives, not masters or Oligarchs' shit-filled puppets.
Laws that were not asked for by, nor are in the interests of, the vast majority of those *allegedly* served.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 22 2023 18:58 utc | 31

It's globalists vs nationalists.

It's easy to explain, the nationalists can control power centers that can defy the globalists attempt at World Domination. Therefore they subvert national institutions to destroy them.

My angle though is while these centralized statists fight for control of power centers the feudalists strive for decentralized power structures thus undercutting both their houses, and a pox on them both.

Join me brothers and sisters under a new feudalist future, like before but with modern and future technology.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 22 2023 18:59 utc | 32

Protecting the world's currency status of the United States Dollar (USD) is a matter of national security. When the rest of the world no longer stores USDs for the trade of oil products and other, the USA will no longer be able to use its USDs to buy what it wants and needs from the rest of the world by printing up or transferring electronic digits of its USD to the rest of the world.

With greatly reduced manufacturing capacity and tremendous debt and existing trade imbalance, one would not recognize the USA after most of the rest of the world no longer uses the USD for its trade settlements. The USA would quickly become one of the poorest countries in the world.

The use of the USD in international trade has been continually slipping up to the launch of Russia's SMO in February 2022. That use has continued to slip in the last 514 days. Now, many more nations are preparing and wanting to ditch the USD.

The only hope the USA has to correct the loss and to restore the status of the USD is to take Russia down. Its hope is to take Russia down. When this happens, other nations such as China will quickly get in line with the USA hegemony.

The USA's plan was to take Russia down via a series of sanctions against Russia and using Ukraine as a military battering ram against the bear.

However, now the USA is aware that neither their sanctions nor their Ukrainian proxy will be able to cause regime change within Russia that they control. With this awareness, USA and NATO will reduce the role it gave Ukraine while it focuses upon its new strategy to take Russia down. The amount of support going to Ukraine will go way down while new resources are funnelled into the West's new game plan.

This is why the Western media is starting to take attention off Ukraine and why the Western media is starting to even tell some truths of what is going on at the zero lines in Ukraine.

The USA can not back off Russia nor will it back off Russia. It has no choice except to continue to escalate. It will continue to escalate against Russia without little or no pause until it takes down the bear.

This is the trap or snare that the USA is in. It can't get out of the snare.

The USA will continue to escalate until it takes down the Russian bear. Yet, in this escalation the USA and its NATO vassals are playing a very high stakes game which could very well take them down instead.

Posted by: young | Jul 22 2023 18:59 utc | 33

The implacable logic of USA's self-immolation in Ukraine was foreseen long ago:

The capitalists will sell us the rope with which to hang them.

-- V.I. Lenin

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 22 2023 19:00 utc | 34

The USA, like the snake in the game "Snake", is trying to "take" everything that is not yet USA. Until then, it must avoid hitting itself, as in the game.
There seem to be problems with this.
If they could really incorporate everything, the end of the "unlimited growth concept" would be reached.
Then a solution would have to be found within the spatial movement possibilities of the people.
So you could also start right away with it...
They would have to build a full-fledged national economy, create a domestic market and generate wealth nationally. Reinvest this in infrastructure and education and participate in win-win situations of international technological exchange.
But exceptionalism knows no logic. How could it?

The U.S. is predictable, like someone with a jacket that says "Bandidos" on it.

Posted by: 600w | Jul 22 2023 19:02 utc | 35

Clown World Veteran | Jul 22 2023 17:49 utc
*** No matter how stupid a politician or bureaucrat might SOUND to you, just remember that they almost invariably have higher IQ's and are more successful than the average of their constituents. That's a fact. These people rule over complete idiots. It's natural for them to feel a sense of superiority and to think that their opinions are better than the public.***

Perhaps it is different wherever you are....
But you've obviously never met many of the UK ones.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 22 2023 19:04 utc | 36

"The question is really why the U.S. is doing this harm to itself..."

Posted by: Rd | Jul 22 2023 18:21 utc | 21

Vainglorious is the old fashioned way of saying it. Military commanders who wanted military victory for its own sake.

Posted by: Jmaas | Jul 22 2023 19:06 utc | 37

It´s puzzling to see & read the same old beating about the bush: The core reason for all the wars since the 1990ies is about preserving the exchange value of the counterfeit Jewish US Dollar. We miss hitting the target as long as we do not touch it in the crudest language.

Posted by: -- nietzsche1510 -- | Jul 22 2023 19:13 utc | 38

Western wealth is based on the self-belief in their superiority. This belief gave them the "reason" to exterminate nations, enslave millions, and exploit the natural resources of the whole world. The problem for the West is that this belief is going to lead to their own downfall, now that the rest of the world is catching up economically and militarily. For a good example, African nations do not accept to be exploited as it happened in the past. Asia never really accepted Western ideology (consider India being independent even after centuries of colonialism). The tide is changing and European and their dependents have never been able to accept that they're not a superior civilization.

Posted by: Charles | Jul 22 2023 19:18 utc | 39

the crudest language
@ -- nietzsche1510 -- | Jul 22 2023 19:13 utc | 38

Ah c'mon. "Jewish US Dollar"?! I've seen much cruder. If the point of your racist crudity is to maximally crank it up, you need to watch and learn from other (exceedingly loquacious) fascist wingnuts around here.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 22 2023 19:25 utc | 40

I suggest that -- in addition to the usual suspects: envy, fear, lust, anger -- the blind ideology by which the US/NATO official actors are driven is this simple: that one must leave this world in better shape than it was when one found it.

Bearers of this ideology are far more numerous than US/NATO officials merely. One ventures to surmise, upon long-observed evidence, that most Europeans and North Americans are infected with it, this mental disease, to varying degrees of toxicity, morbidity, and infect-ability.

This ideology / mental disease -- of an order of magnitude more destructive than simple do-gooding -- numbers among ideologies which evince immediate and strong surface attractiveness. When its assumptions are scrutinized, however, the ideology quickly takes on the form of a most appalling monster, a demonic concoction in fact. It is profoundly un-Christian, being by turns Docetic, legalistic, and Pelagian.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Jul 22 2023 19:31 utc | 41

It is important not to dismiss monopoly capital as stupid or ignorant. Janna Kadri presented a very compelling argument about why this is not "illogical": https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/making-sense-of-a-self-induced-recession-in-europe

"The point remains that Europe restructures power balances by forcing countries into submission and drawing future resources for cheap costs. The principle governing the EU’s decision-making is that the temporary erosion of European welfare – the current security of Europe’s working classes -- is meant to strengthen the bloc’s autonomy and boost European working class and capital security in the long run. The European working class continues to partner with capital since its colonial wars and it benefits from the power generated imperialist dividends. That rationale is the very same one being applied in the context of the Ukrainian conflict -- that the temporary contraction of the Eurozone is meant to enhance Europe's security and economy in the long run."

Posted by: MillionTinyFleas | Jul 22 2023 19:36 utc | 42

I just watched the Telegraph video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts4JS2NVtqs) that A. Crooke mentioned in b's "Ukraine Sitrep - Reality Defeats The War Narrative" post.

It's delivered with the same supercilious smugness that marks the Telegraph's Hamish De Bretton-Gordon's absurd pieces, such as this one:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/british-made-tanks-about-to-sweep-putins-conscripts-aside/

... nonetheless the video is broadly right; wars are won by stories, not weapons. Unless a soldier has the right story in his head, he's not going to pick up a gun every morning and risk his life defending "his" country (ie, the existing power structure that sent him off to die on their behalf). This is why regimes expend such vast resources on propaganda; if a citizen believes everyone else will pay their tax and obey the law (and is eager to kill Russians) then s/he will be much more inclined to do so, also... regardless of how true it is or not.

Needless to say the Telegraph vid is a remarkable exposition of pro-Ukraine propaganda; how clever and brave and astute Zelenskyy is, and eager his warriors are, how demoralised Putin's "conscripts" are, etc. It's shameless propaganda, but as long as it helps keep Westerners onside in the belief that if only they keep funnelling resources to Ukraine, "Democracy" and goodness will prevail over that nasty Mr. Putin.

It appears this narrative tactic has been around a long time:

https://mises.org/wire/media-and-ukraine-war-coverage-where-truth-takes-holiday

It seems to me that Ukraine can probably keep finding young men to go die on behalf of the Anglo-American empire for some time yet (unfortunately).

I see the Americans are promising the Ukrainians will have F-16s before the year is out; never a dull moment in the mighty meatgrinder.

Posted by: Observer | Jul 22 2023 19:37 utc | 43

I'm glad Michael Hudson is mentioned. He's the best truth speaker on the economy we have in this era. His geopolitical economy report podcast is essential for understanding the economic factors in the current age, along with the economic reasons underlying wars.

His comment on the US military was that much of it is window dressing. Military spending is meant to support the military industrial complex, not to be successful on the battlefield. But now it's clear to the world that Russian military technology is much more economical. US arms sales will likely drop dramatically outside NATO where it isn't legally required to buy US.

Posted by: Matthew | Jul 22 2023 19:53 utc | 44

A excellent article thank you b for the hard analysis.

b finishes with :
“ I have come to the conclusion that the main actors in this game, the Bindens, Blinkens, Sullivans and their bipartisan supporters, are driven by a blind ideology that has dismissed or replaced global realities with wishful thinking.”

I agree they may be the main ‘actors’, but as we know actors only speak the lines and do their jobs they don’t have to agree with, let alone understand what they say. They are just professionals doing a job.

I had been constructing a post to reply to some of our very concerned posters here- on reading this piece though I’ll post the substantive part here instead, I hope it adds to the conversation.

I think it was inevitable that China would rise and develop along with its populace faster and faster, after raising itself from poverty, under education and lack of security.
Especially having seen off the Imperial Forces out of South East Asia with support for the various revolutionary movements through these nations.
Kissinger and Nixon were obviously sent to save something from that defeat 50 years ago.

Here they are again!

Of course China was obviously going rise - to the sky, the Moon and the Planets as it has done with its amazing LongMarch rockets and human potential.
It seems that it’s been left to the mythical Ayn Randian ‘self made’ zillionaires to do the same in the West. The Gates, Branson’s and Musk types. Just new iterations of the Rich man’s Foundations last century. The Santa Claus’s of our western myth of self made individuals. Hypocritically there is no acknowledgement that Obviously, without a state funded NASA, there would have been no American Space Programme.

India should have been on par with China by now if not before - unfortunately it seems to have hung onto its ex-imperial Masters coat tails. After all if your elites are educated in the western propaganda and universities, have homes in the richest parts of town and the military is trained via Sandhurst - there wouldn’t be much change to the exploitation of colonialism. Many end up appointed as Executive Officers of Western enterprises, many also as politicians and they are used to keep the exploitation going in their ‘homelands’. Many even end up with the full honours of the Empire builders, the new ‘burden’ carriers, the diasporic Lords of England. The in-accusable ‘black faces’ of our Aryan supremacy if you will.

Of course there are also many parts of the African Continent which, having nominally got ‘independence’, have remained in the Commonwealth with the major Estates of Sugar, Tea, Coffee still remaining in the same aristo hands and corporations. Mugabe was always a colonial place man. Africa unlike China is a much more diverse peoples than say China or India.

Well, Africa now daily goes more the way of China, and not of India, as do other ex colonies of the AngloEuropean Imperialists. Collectively African Peoples will represent the majority of humanity at its peak in about a century, they will be the majority representing humans which may go to the Planets and Beyond!!

With that prognosis, it seems clear to me why the West is being burned like Atlanta because the actual Masters are now scrambling to save their ancient Power and Wealth, the Collective Waste is what they are offering to be allowed to keep on keeping on.

I think they are on a hiding to nothing and hope the majority of humanity once and for all removes that great burden from our lives and our grandkids will finally become one with the whole of humanity. That is the only future for us if we want to still be here in a thousand and ten thousand years.

And I didn’t even mention the Russians!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 22 2023 19:56 utc | 45

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jul 22 2023 18:22 utc | 22

That's right. The Anglo-Saxon *angst* of Germany and Russia working together is typically 1900-ish. Today Germany is effectively neutered. The challenge to US power is China together with Russia.

Yet the US refuses to acknowledge the possibility of China and Russia working together; instead hoping for a Soviet-Sino split.

Posted by: Passerby | Jul 22 2023 20:01 utc | 46

Passerby @46: "Today Germany is effectively neutered."

That's transphobic! It is properly called "gender-affirming care".
Germany's transition is stunning and brave!

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 22 2023 20:10 utc | 47

,,Yahoo just posted a Article by Gen. Milley . He says Ukraine offensive is slow, not a failure , they are working through mine fields , and are preserving their combat power .

Posted by: leocz | Jul 22 2023 20:22 utc | 48

In response to
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Bevin, we don't burn the 50% of the food we waste in 'Murca. We put it in landfills.

A system whose primary goal is profit will be both cruel and insane.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jul 22 2023 18:14 utc | 20
"

You are correct in the waste claim but bevin is correct in the class structure claim and the cruel and insane part of your next sentence is accurate but the primary goal of the system is the

Iron Law of Institutions, that individuals and interests are operating to maximize their own position, with little/no concern to the impact on the system.

That is why I also make mention of an out-of-context Michael Hudson bit

Governments are expected to support their economy’s leading business interests.

What is the leading business interest in America? Global private finance.....that which none dare call out directly it seems
It is the same business interest that is driving the UK to execute its ongoing reported perfidy in Ukraine.

I am just as surprised that China does not call out global private finance and its effect on culture directly but maybe it is more important to learn this the hard way.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 22 2023 20:24 utc | 49

China recently launched world's first methane rocket into space beating Elon Musk while he was busy arguing with people on Twitter.

That's only a few months after China launched it's first domestic airliner.

And that's months after China tested the fastest maglev train.

And few months earlier China unveiled the world's first 5 Tesla MRI that scans the whole body.

And few months earlier, last year, China launched aircraft carrier with electro magnetic catapult.

I could go on.

China has not only caught up but is also surpassing the west in terms of technology as well as economy & global influence.

The US economy is actually much smaller than China's. The colossal trade deficit speaks volumes. It's only propped up to be as big as it is by the dollar's reserve status.

And politically, nobody outside Europe, Canada and Australia aligns with the US over China.

The Asian Century has already begun.

These Washington politicians who believe America is number one in ANYTHING need the hottest coffee there is to wake them up.

Posted by: FieryButMostPeaceful | Jul 22 2023 20:25 utc | 50

@FieryButMostPeaceful

China recently launched world's first methane rocket into space beating Elon Musk while he was busy arguing with people on Twitter.

yeahbut America produces far more trans-persons. And as "diversity is our strength" that means USA is winning.

Posted by: Observer | Jul 22 2023 20:29 utc | 51

Inkan @3
I agree totally - especially since the US has never expressed admiration for war criminals.

Posted by: Digital Dinosaur | Jul 22 2023 21:00 utc | 52

>> The U.S. Wars Against Russia And China Have No Economic Logic Attached To Them

They do, well, did, if they had worked out they way the guys and girls with the funny uniforms and the tin ornaments on their chests and their puppet masters had dreamed them up.

You know, with Selensky kicking Putin's butt, Russian and Chinese economies breaking down, the rest of world united against Putin.

What friends of NATO are forgetting: one of the reasons for NATO jumping head first into a new adventure was NATO having had their butt spanked by a bunch of goatherders in Afghanistan. Macron correctly diagnosed NATO as brain dead - and main stream media starting to reason that maybe political leadership was to blame for the Afghanistan disaster.

So they chose the cure drunks use for their hangovers: more booze, pardon, another war.

With the same result: The next hangover is worse.

The question is: have NATO or at least their string pullers learned their lessons? Or will they kick off another war (against China) to get beaten up so badly they won't get up again for long time?

Posted by: Marvin | Jul 22 2023 21:03 utc | 53

Marvin | Jul 22 2023 21:03 utc | 53
***have NATO or at least their string pullers learned their lessons? Or will they kick off another war (against China) to get beaten up so badly they won't get up again for long time?***

And after that, Lichtenstein?

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 22 2023 21:08 utc | 54

Jef @ 1

I agree with your "nutshell" statement, but I don't follow your next statement, regarding the EU.

Why in the world is the EU going along with the belligerents?

Posted by: Jane | Jul 22 2023 21:10 utc | 55

bevin | Jul 22 2023 18:01 utc | 16--

Yes, The Class War is the crucial point. I've yet to write about it completely in a New Path essay, although I've mentioned bits here and there. It's not Communism; the Socialism with varying national aspects--none will be the same as the other as we see with China and Russia's characteristics. Capital control will be in the hands of the people via the state and most vital institutions for supporting people will be public utilities, and the core focus of political-economy will be people centered development as a move away from material accumulation needs to begin. I didn't write a further reply to jef @1 along those lines because it's part of the content of a larger project.

Hudson's been 100% correct that "those in charge" are of the same type as the Roman oligarchs of yore as they've constructed a predatory, parasitic Creditocray aiming to render people into debt machines. A few others have noted that nothing the West does is Pro-Human. In Europe, the target is the dismantling of the welfare state that supports people via austerity created by a war that should never have been waged--except that it is being done so for precisely that purpose as you look at what the major European governments aim to do.

This comment is just a sketch. Hudson's writing whole books about this, how humanity has reached this point. The destiny of civilization is a new path.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2023 21:12 utc | 56

Blind ideology plus MIC, thinks Thomas Fazi.
See: The capitalists are revolting over China

Posted by: Ulrike | Jul 22 2023 21:32 utc | 57

Dear B,

Your conclusion about the Biden govt comes over as astonishingly naive. The reality is at once simple in some ways and complicated in others.

On one level, Biden, Blinken, Sullivan and all their followers, and Washington DC generally including the media and lobby organisations, are united in a common belief that the US is exceptional and is the leader of the so-called Free World, liberal democracy and all the values and beliefs encapsulated in that belief. On other levels, these individuals are driven by their own greed and agendas where these dovetail with others murky agendas and fall within the vague definitions of "liberal democracy". After all, in a liberal democracy, people should be "free" to do whatever they want or desire, and the role of government and society is not to get in their way.

That a number of senior people in the US State Department, including Blinken and Victoria Nuland, have Eastern European Jewish backgrounds or other Eastern European diaspora backgrounds may also be a major factor driving their decision-making and policies. Many of these people loathe Russia because of what the Russian Empire or the USSR did or supposedly did to their families in the past, and want revenge for past injustices, real and imagined. These people include those whose ancestors participated in pogroms against Jewish, gypsy and other marginalised groups in the past, and who fled to North America ahead of the Soviet Army's advance into Germany in 1945. At present their interests coincide but as Russia's SMO slowly crushes whatever remains of Ukraine, accusations as to who in the US govt should have done more or done things differently to assist Ukraine may start to fly. Then an apparent united front may start to fracture.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jul 22 2023 21:32 utc | 58

Singapore's Kishore said the same thing as Hudson. That US attempts to contain China will end up isolating itself.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202307/1294859.shtml

Posted by: Surferket | Jul 22 2023 21:40 utc | 59

A system whose primary goal is profit will be both cruel and insane.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jul 22 2023 18:14 utc | 20

Well said, Henry. It is not the politicians who rule in the US (and certainly not the people, it goes without saying; it is the oligarchs. They have succeeded in totally gaming the system. They are not only cruel and insane; they are idiots.

The patience of the rest of the world is extraordinary. But I think patience will win out in the end. Thank you, b.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 22 2023 21:46 utc | 60

Zbigniew Brzezinski rejected the entire approach to foreign policy since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks -- the notion that either a country is with the United States, or against it.

"It's a traditional Leninist slogan," he said, used by Lenin to justify the destruction of the Social Democrats in pre-Soviet Russia. "That's not exactly the way to mobilize friends ... We are pursuing a policy which in effect unites our enemies and divides our friends."

Brzezinski also urged caution in the new deal to give India civilian nuclear plant technology despite the fact it has developed nuclear weapons in violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Carter-Clinton-Obama-Biden all were students of the school Brzezinski-Albright and doctrine on foreign policy. Both had no concern for China as globalization had not set in policy. Both were focused on Communism and the Former Soviet Union. Both got it wrong from A to Z. Root cause of Biden’s 50 years of foreign policy failures.

The Republican Congress and Bush/Cheney did the most damage as they implemented Neocon policy of military intervention and regime change. Trump/Kushner pushed Israel over the edge of arrogance into fascism.

Globalization brought tech to America’s adversaries in return for massive profits and an economic boom. The reunification of East and West-Germany gave Europe a chance for economic growth due to gas delivery on favorable terms. Europe became an economic power that needed to be neutralized. Not Trump, but Biden/Blinken went on a rampage in 2021 as the loss and retreat from Afghanistan was already set in stone. Not Trump, but Biden was handed an empty bag and the label of loser.

Once Angela Merkel announced her political career would end, Biden agreed to lifting sanctions on Nord Stream 2 with one condition. Biden knew there would be no diplomacy to end the Ukraine conflict and the US would be free to act on the destruction of gas transport to Europe. From Rumsfeld policy, Europe and the EU were divided into New and Old. As years passed, the division would quite pungent. The second half of 2021 was a period I called the Blitzkrieg of Biden across Europe. He was quite successful as all states lined up behind White House policy, the Pentagon and NATO. Peace never had a chance.


The year 2008 while fighting the illegal war in Iraq and creating turmoil, the Atlantic Council set the stage for further NATO expansion by declaring g Russia an adversary and a pariah state. The Bucharest Summit in April 2008 sealed the fate of Europe for the remaining of the 21st Century - Pax Americana.

Excellent read:

Posted by: Oui | Jul 22 2023 21:52 utc | 61

This is a global conflict of economic & social systems ....


The Russian Federation is not an immediate threat to this system ... but the hegemon has underestimated its present leadership - and the Yeltsin years are well gone if not their consequences on the structure of the RF economy - now changing due to SMO.

The real threat is unquestionably the PRC - educated human capital - resource rich - state control of economy and simply too big to dominate with the usual financial engineering or MIC profiteering as in Ukraine ... and it is now in a resource-arrangement with Russian Federation. The US has only managed to vassalise EUROPE, Japan, S Korea and Australia and the RoW is not joining in the Russophobic game but watching the Dollar and noting the winds of change.

The Global Island will not be a US backyard and if it tries to control this Global Island....

... 'it will stare into its empty hand' - to borrow from the Tao Te Ching ...

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 22 2023 22:06 utc | 62

An old article but a good one. About capitalism being gradually replaced by technocracy-totalitarianism (the essence of the 'reset' idea) and a debate about whether or not change of worldview or violent class conflict will solve the problem.

The quasi-mystical solutions proposed in the final part of The Psychology of Totalitarianism, titled “Beyond the Mechanistic Worldview,” reflect the book’s detachment from actually existing (i.e. empirical, as opposed to media-induced) sociopolitical realities. In three chapters titled “The Dead versus the Living Universe,” “Matter and Spirit,” and “Science and Truth,” Desmet offers some philosophical reflections on how to overcome scientism. But, as Marx (1969) famously writes, “Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it.”

Solutions to totalitarianism do not lie in the philosophy of science. They lie in the outcome of class conflict. Desmet himself recognizes that, should leaders not be able to sustain the levels of manufactured “anxiety and aggression” necessary for Mass Formation, “the masses will wake up and become aware of the damage they have suffered, whereupon they will turn against the leaders in lethal fashion” (p. 116). Predictably, however, he leaps to the defense of the system:

The problem cannot be solved by the violent elimination of an evil elite. The essence of the problem of totalitarianism lies in enormous mass dynamics. This means the elimination of totalitarian leaders will be to no avail; they are utterly replaceable (p. 139).

This is true if the predatory practices of the present capitalist system remain intact. But given the world-historical events that have unfolded since 2020, this is far from certain. The ruling class appears intent on replacing present forms of capitalism with technocracy — a system of direct bio-digital enslavement that does not rely on secondary forms of control such as debt slavery (Broudy & Arakaki, 2020; Fitts, 2022). In the opposite corner, a rapidly awakening global population will surely have other ideas.

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/11/investigative-reports/covid-19-mass-formation-or-mass-atrocity/

(Whitney Webb is often published on this site)

My personal feeling is that, barring some superlative sage-king leader galvanizing a powerful political and semi-religious movement (highly unlikely), that the sooner the West breaks up into smaller polities having first eliminated the credit cartel system the better. The Unions - be they the United States or European Union - do more harm than good and are not reformable so they have to go. Also, that approach is probably far more workable than 'overthrow.'

In one thing Desmet is correct: if all you do is change the operators of the machine without changing the view which sees the world as mechanical, anything that transpires will be fruitless. No easy answers.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 22:07 utc | 63

There are a couple of factors to consider, some of which can be drawn from the Australian example. Here we are no strangers to the contradictions that result from a foreign policy directed by a foreign power (US State Dept) against our largest and most important economic partner (PRC). Why do we do it? Although the west is devoted to the god of instrumental reason and economic rationalism, one can never discount the way this can be transformed or even subverted by inherited prejudices and other types of (ir)rationalities. In Australia an explanation of our response to the 'China Question' must reckon with the deep racism of the Australian Anglo-Irish core that sees our trade with China in latent colonial/imperial terms and dreams of much more exploitative fantasies. There's no intellectual or cultural exchange here, just a cautious transfer of goods and services at arm's length. This is embedded in the trade relations itself: we sell them stuff from the ground and dubious education. We don't care if they choke on the coal we sell them and we laugh at the way they pay us tens of thousands for upstairs English lessons and million-dollar university degrees. The relationship is loaded with legacy 19th century contempt. Overarching this and managing it is a government ruled by a rusted-on Anglophile US-sponsored bureaucratic establishment and a political system that devotes all its energies to maintaining a housing finance economy (mortgage merry-go-round) and mining. Thus contradictions abound: 350K migrants are needed for economic growth but we will never integrate them because we're a hide-bound racist settler oligarchy. We just need coolies to run petrol stations and to pay the exorbitant rents on our investment apartments.

But even more decisive still is the local version of b's last point: everything in Australia is directed by a bureaucratic-managerial rationality that runs parallel to, and integrates itself into, the economism and instrumental reason that dominates all policy thinking. A good analysis is Horkheimer's Eclipse of Reason where the classic example was Nazi Germany. The leadership of the Third Reich was bereft of skill or expertise in the fields it tried to control. Where they had older cadres of professionals (e.g., the Prussian officer class) the senior Nazis scorned them precisely because they were professionals who showed them up for what they were (i.e., Bohemian corporals and chicken farmers). But when it came to the implementation of irrational policy (race, etc) they relied heavily on a grey nameless bureaucratic apparatus full of empty functionaries and vacuous non-experts like Eichmann (cf. Arendt's 'banality of evil' which works the other way too: the 'evil of banality'). Armed with an industrial economy and its networks they proved all too effective at horror and hopeless at what was necessary (e.g., economic and militarily sustainable policy). This is because the whole thing, then as now, runs on fear and zero-depth expertise. Managers are hired not because they're 'good managers' (which would imply a background in the area being managed) but because it has become a tenet of modernity that experts and practitioners cannot be trusted to manage according to bureaucratic-managerial-economistic rationality. Take a hospital: should doctors and nurses run it in the interests of patients? No! Rather it has to be run in the interests of efficiency and according to the edicts of public health authorities (also not medical professionals)—interests which, of course, oppose those of a medical cadre and patient well-being. This example can be extrapolated to every institution: militaries, universities, airlines, schools, welfare (see the Robodebt scandal in Australia—a classic example whose story illustrates in detail everything I'm saying here!), etc.

This is why the whole sorry shitshow is falling apart: "the main actors in this game, the Bidens, Blinkens, Sullivans and their bipartisan supporters" are enamoured of the spectacle of power without understanding any of the areas over which they have stewardship. It is as though one hired a ship's captain on the basis that he had formerly been successful at restructuring a company's HR department, on the logic that if he can run one he can run the other. And the system is designed to see 'managing' as always 'a good thing' and incapable of failure since failure can be blamed on the practitioners (the ship sank but because the sailors were substandard, etc). This is why a CEO of an airline can become the CEO of a public health institution without any sense of irony or question. Kissinger and Brzezinski represent, to some extent, the last of a particular kind of apparatchik, those who could to some degree claim to have some expertise in the area in which they contributed policy decision-making.

Those days are now gone. My university is no longer run by academics, or even academically trained professionals, but by grey managers. The 'Head of Education' in my Faculty was appointed because he had successfully reorganised the timetabling system in another university. He made the trains run on time. Now he will keenly facilitate another holocaust on academics for whom he has secret contempt because he knows that they know he's an empty cipher, a vain little grey sociopath with his hands on the levers of destiny...

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 22 2023 22:18 utc | 64

Yeah, well it's hard to be a Hegemonic Power when your country (and allies) are determined to transform into a Post- Industrial, Neo-feudal Windmill economy. Especially when your Chinese- Russian- BRICS+ rivals aspire for the very opposite.

BTW. Yves is a green fanatic and Hudson has (recently) drinking the Green Kool-Aid. Their insights are pretty blinkered for that reason. EX: Posted next to the Hudson article on Yves NAKED CAPITALISM is "The Big Problem With Small Nuclear Reactors" ... Yves bans comments that call out her green, dystopian propaganda. Very brittle ideologue.

Posted by: posa | Jul 22 2023 22:25 utc | 65

It is a puzzle that America wants to isolate China and therefore cause itself and its allies great economic harm.

Does it overestimate its influence? During the Cold War, the Eastern Bloc was a much smaller part of the World economy then China and Russia are now.
Maybe it believes its own propaganda about human rights and Western moral superiority?

My guess is it comes down to ideology. The West has slipped into Capitalism worship, neo-liberalism. That the State is bad, markets are always good. Shovelling money to the powerful and rich, will make things better. While spending money on the average person, environment, workers rights, etc only diminishes wealth in their eyes. Total rubbish, of course. The whole point of an economy and State is to provide a better life for the citizens as a whole.

The problem with China is that not only does it threatens American supremacy, but also offers an alternative. No longer is it a communist country, more like a State directed capitalist country. It is willing to force enterprise to do things it wants, whether it is to build too many cities, a high speed train network, or create more renewable and nuclear power than the rest of the World. It is showing that their model works. Which is rather unfortunate as China is rather dictatorial, though not as bad as its critics make it.

What the West needs is not war and sanctions. But someone willing to break the deferment to established power and to reform itself to something better. To address poverty, health, infrastructure, climate change ... Rather than pretending their is no money, while the rich get ever richer and everyone else feels things are falling apart.

Posted by: Mighty Drunken | Jul 22 2023 22:33 utc | 66

karlof1@56

Hudson's article was superb. He is absolutely right. One point that I would add is that the craven and slavish behaviour of Europe's politicians is more easily explained by their dependence on and fear of Washington, which, they understand controls, through NATO etc, their militaries and police as well as their media and Academy, than by any more comnplex explanation.

There will be a revolt against the US empire but it will come from below and leave the current political caste in complete irrelevance- it will be a working class revolt, of the kind that sociologists have been telling us for decades is no longer possible.

While everything appears to have changed in the past century, in real terms nothing much has done so: most people still depend on wages for a living, more than ever in relative terms. And collective action remains the only form of power open to those working for others.

As Hudson reminds us almost all the gains made in the past have dissolved- living standards in the 'west' are higher, on the whole, than they were a century ago. But there is no longer a political safety net, in the form of a Labour movement and real Trade Unions, to protect the remnants of the concessions wrung in the past from being obliterated. The working class no longer has institutions of its own- it has no education system, its Unions are corrupted, the Socialist parties are either empty shells or, as the Corbyn matter showed, easily brushed aside and taken over by unashamed enemies of the people.

We're at Ground Zero.And that is always a good place from which to build anew.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 22 2023 23:00 utc | 67

I have come to the conclusion that the main actors in this game, the Bindens, Blinkens, Sullivans and their bipartisan supporters, are driven by a blind ideology that has dismissed or replaced global realities with wishful thinking.

Also consider that the great American hydra is optimized to do only a few things--start and continue pointless hot and cold wars, and extract value from its poorer citizens. It can't do anything else. Its military will continue to demand endless resources for terrible performance, because this act is mostly a wealth transfer charade. Biden is too senile to have any idea or direct what's going on--that's why he was chosen. Blinken and Sullivan and Nuland are all "swamp creatures" and "mediocrities" (ht Chris Hedges) who are just playing their aristocratic roles.

None of these people have any practical knowledge. They couldn't change a tire if their lives depended on it. Their job is to open the public doors wide for the banks and other financial predators to feast. If nuclear war turns a profit, they're all for it.

There is no rational reason for why the US supports Ukraine. It is its own parody.

Posted by: D | Jul 22 2023 23:01 utc | 68

Actually, Kissinger counselled Nixon to make rapprochement with Russia not China as Kissinger felt that China was the long term obstacle to hegemony -Nixon.

Nixon refused and now it is too late to stop China; instead we have the Thucydides Trap whereby as Athens went to war with Syracuse trying to defeat Sparta as the US is warring with Russia to defeat China.

Posted by: canuck | Jul 22 2023 18:28 utc | 24

In those days, rapprochement with Russia would have been difficult, but it certainly would have been the best strategic decision.
In her usual, and usually unavoidable myopic view of herself and the World, the USA fumbled the ball.
Now they have forced Russia and China together, if for no other reason than self-interest, self-preservation, and complete distrust of any commitments the USA has made in the past and may offer in the future.
As far as the proposed "death-match" where the USA is committed to killing the bear, the USA fell into the trap of fighting way, way too close to the bear, the bear has eaten the Ukaine, and the USA cannot run away fast enough.
As with every other failed U.S. military adventure, running away, yet keeping a winning narrative, is all that they know.
"Coulda kicked that bear's ass, and he knows it, but I'm not going to muss up my new boots."

Posted by: kupkee | Jul 22 2023 23:09 utc | 69

The U.S. Wars Against Russia And China Have No Economic Logic Attached To Them

Sure they do, IF you (colonial "Great Powers") start a game of Total World Domination and have been writing Prisoner's Dilemma rules for the past 300 years. Now, Herbert Simon's term for this condition of competition is "bounded rationality." He suggested in Sciences of the Artificial, for example, that the only escape is not to play the game at all. (But that's an option that game theorists ignore...because bounded rationality.) Then, decades later a pair of mathematicians formally calculated the probability of one "Evolutionary Player" (alias Prisoner) defeating the "Extortionate Strategy" of one other player was 0, basically. So. Here we are, watching a multi-player strategy to quit the "Great Game", but some spectators just don't get the objective—that win-win thingie minus The NEW! Hegemon®.

Iterated Prisoner’s Dilemma contains strategies that dominate any evolutionary opponent. Look into it.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jul 22 2023 23:16 utc | 70

Surferket | Jul 22 2023 21:40 utc | 59--

Now that I again have access to all international websites, I can contribute an observation made by Mahbubani in his interview with Global Times:

Containment policy is real. The only question is whether it can work. I will make a prediction confidently that the containment policy will fail, because China has already integrated itself with the world, more than the US has. More countries do trade with China than they do with the US. The Cold War is the opposite, more countries traded with the US than they did with Soviet Union.

Because of that, if the US tries to contain China, instead of the US isolating China, US will find itself isolated from the rest of the world. And as a friend of the US, I tell them that's not wise, don't do it, take a wiser approach.

A mistake Mahbubani makes is thinking he's "a friend of the US"--the US doesn't have friends, which happens to be a very key point. Even within the Donor factions, they're no friends--everything is "business." Even in the Mafia with the family code, there're no guarantees. And IMO, that's a huge distinction between the Outlaw US Empire and the sorts of people who came before it and the RoW. One of the reasons why the West doesn't understand the "East" is due to this gulf in social psychologies.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2023 23:35 utc | 71

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 22 2023 20:24 utc | 49

Your thesis is very plausible, and one that is best considered at times. Mine is drawn from Donna Meadows and her book on systems analysis. It is also quite useful in some circumstances. Either way, it's the God of Mammon.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 22 2023 21:46 utc | 60

The other day, I "met" another barfly from NM, Jemez I believe. I loved your story about shepherding at NC. That was quite a thread, fun for me because that's something I've actually been trained in. Interpreting the Hebrew and Greek bibles is a lot more involved than most people think if you take it seriously. It's not easy task to figure out what people meant when you're dealing with Iron Age people from the Levant.

I hope you won't give up on NC. The proprietors can be prickly--I've been on moderation there for nearly 10 years for some crack I made about Calvinism. And my comments wait approval for hours sometimes, but I keep going back because I know of not collection of daily links that so meets my interests. And I am grateful to them for their coverage of Covid, which is without peer as far as I know. And the commenters include a lot a bright people from all over the world, just like this one.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 22 2023 23:00 utc | 67

Those red-diaper babies like Hudson have made some nice contributions. Murray Bookchin is another. And David Graeber was the son of man who fought in the Lincoln Brigade, so he qualifies in my mind.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jul 22 2023 23:36 utc | 72

Either the leaders of the west are stupid, they are blackmailed or they follow a hidden agenda.
In any case they are due to be repaced. Democraty is a structure designed that the people replace a dysfunctional governement. It does not seem on the table yet. The all over spread false narrative about the situation, orwell like efforts to control the publich opionion indicates that behind the scene they know very well, what they are doing, and that they are playing false.

Posted by: Johnny | Jul 22 2023 23:46 utc | 73

bevin | Jul 22 2023 23:00 utc | 67--

Thanks for your reply. A local demographic/housing issue was discussed by the wife and I at the hospital, and although we live in a thoughtful, progressive community, the planners still don't get the desperate need for affordable housing--housing that only costs 20% of your net income, not the 40-60% we see now. And our problem is national.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2023 23:48 utc | 74

Clown world Veteran 12

The population are not idiots. The have noticed that democratic institutions ignore their honest opinions , so they turn their back on politics.

Consultation with the people is the one and only way to counteract the selfish interests of business people. Consultation never occurs.

Or if it occurs it is overuled or ignored. The interests of a minority must never be alloused to overrule
the interests of the majority, because the business people are idiots.

Posted by: Giyane | Jul 23 2023 0:16 utc | 75

jane @ 55

Europe has more to lose that the US in terms of access to resources as they have little and are heavily dependent on continued colonialist inputs and extortion particularly France but all EU countries benefit.

Karl - You are totally correct in your analysis except you never ask or explain the why or the what for, nobody does. Everyone goes into great detail on the machinations of empire but never talk about why. Just look at what they have accomplished over the last 100+ years. They have successfully dominated the production, distribution, and consumption of the worlds natural resources. They have successfully implemented demand destruction on a global scale restricting development for billions of people and enjoying what Michael Hudson has termed the greatest free lunch in the history of the world.

Why is it that all analysis misses this utmost important fact and instead calls all of US foreign activities blunders, arrogance, losses, etc?

Posted by: jef | Jul 23 2023 0:27 utc | 76

I believe is not about Biden, Sullivan and anybody else in the system, the real politics and policies during Trump and Obama weren’t much different , US wasn’t interested in Minsk in Trump or Obama’s regimes, nor they were interested in China or Iran’s JCPOA. IMO this emporium/ a world empire goal /trajectory was set after USSR and the first Iraq/US war. As is evident in history empires are clumsy and can’t change trajectory on a dime and discontinue
Empire building regardless of controlling regime or emperors. IMO American empire will be the shortest in history. From what I have read, Americans have established the most incompetent empire ever since the Acadians.

Posted by: Kooshy | Jul 23 2023 0:38 utc | 77

"no more pearl harbors".

the excuse for the us empire and 800 bases around the world surrounding russia and china.

'the no more pearl harbors' may have had some geopolitical sense up to 1989!

from there the us military industrial complex became a business with no career in expansion, until 9/11/2002!!

what happened after 9/11 drew more emotion and less sense than "no more pearl harbors".

but the usa' population was psychologically damaged by it press!

by 2004 the usa was spending more in real dollars on it military industry complex than during the vaunted reagan build up of the mid 1980's.

today the usa government is $30 trillion in debt, a large part because it spends nearly half the war rpfioteering money of the entire earth!

as sun tzu said no prince (country) peospers from long war.

frederic bastiat in the late 19th century developed an economics argument to support sun tzum stating that any government spending in time of peace likely has better economic return more than building up for a war.

USA libertarians agree with bastiat.

the amount of money flowing through the usa military industry complex is immense, weapons sold are shoddy and not suited for stressful war as we see in ukraine.

but the money flows back to congress though lobbies and the make work war jobs whose workers could do almost anything else and be better for the us economy.

tilting with russia and china is about as uneconomical as the usa military industry complex.....

Posted by: paddy | Jul 23 2023 0:41 utc | 78

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2023 23:35 utc | 71

Some of us Singaporeans are appreciative of Kishore's benign position on China, and are also aware of the genetics baggage of him being an Indian. They are programmed to love their White oppressors.

Posted by: Surferket | Jul 23 2023 0:43 utc | 79

"Protecting the world's currency status of the United States Dollar (USD) is a matter of national security. When the rest of the world no longer stores USDs for the trade of oil products and other, the USA will no longer be able to use its USDs to buy what it wants and needs from the rest of the world by printing up or transferring electronic digits of its USD to the rest of the world.

With greatly reduced manufacturing capacity and tremendous debt and existing trade imbalance, one would not recognize the USA after most of the rest of the world no longer uses the USD for its trade settlements. The USA would quickly become one of the poorest countries in the world."

Posted by: young | Jul 22 2023 18:59 utc | 33


Nope, complete fantasy I'm afraid..It's unfortunate you simply have no idea how money works. I'm utterly speechless you are still so invested in this myth. My guess is the word " deficit " lives rent free in your head. Money and trade is quite simply beyond your grasp. You desperately need to go back to the drawing board.

Strong currency good, trade surplus good, balanced budget good is about all you have regardless of the context. Propaganda owns you and it is a crying shame that you simply can't see it. A travesty infact.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 23 2023 0:43 utc | 80

Posted by: canuck | Jul 22 2023 18:28 utc | 24

"instead we have the Thucydides Trap whereby as Athens went to war with Syracuse trying to defeat Sparta as the US is warring with Russia to defeat China."

Wow, a little ancient history is a dangerous thing. Especially when it's utterly wrong.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 23 2023 1:14 utc | 81

This is the economic logic:

"DE-INDUSTRIALIZATION" IS NOT A TERM IN THE GLOBALIST LEXICON

If I have a machine shop in "my" backyard and move it to "my" front yard, would you say I have de-industrialized? No !!!

That is how globalists see the world.

However, if I have a machine shop in my backyard and move it to "the yard in front of my house", which is "owned by my neighbor", what do you say then?

The West moved the machine shop assuming that property lines and titles no longer exist.

HOW DID IT HAPPEN?

From reading and believing in stuff like Francis Fukuyama's, "The End of History" and Mark Leonard's "Why Europe Will Run the 21st Century":

"If you go back 500 years it was Europeans who invented the most effective form of political organisation in history. The nation state was so effective that it very quickly wiped out all other ways of organising politics at that time. And countries which were not nation states at that time were faced with a very stark choice, either to become a nation state themselves or to get taken over by one. Fifty years ago the Europeans went back to the drawing board and reinvented this model, creating the European Union..."

And this is the result:

Why America’s Largest Tool Company Couldn’t Make a Wrench in America - WSJ

https://archive.fo/RQev4

So, the United States is going to send an Army to Russia without being able to supply wrenches to service the vehicles? If you read the above article, the heavy machinery was not even made in the United States, but Belarus... (lol)

The West is hanging on by a very slender reed. IMHO

Posted by: Rokossovsky | Jul 23 2023 1:23 utc | 82

jef | Jul 23 2023 0:27 utc | 75--

Thanks for your reply. The Why is to have power, control, wealth, and the ability to do whatever one wants without any restrictions--the combination of Megalomania and Pleonexia as I've written before. I do have an anthropological POV explanation that I've also written about before, but not for five or so years now. It will resurface despite its subjectivity.

Surferket | Jul 23 2023 0:43 utc | 78--

Thanks for your additional comment and its added context.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 23 2023 1:30 utc | 83

Yesterday while cutoff from Russian and Chinese websites, Russia held a meeting pf its Security Council that bits and pieces have been reported about. At most other times, I'd have translated it and made it available soon after it occurred. Well, in this case given its importance, a day late ought to be okay. It can be read here.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 23 2023 1:34 utc | 84

posa @ 65
Yeah, well it's hard to be a Hegemonic Power when your country (and allies) are determined to transform into a Post- Industrial, Neo-feudal Windmill economy. Especially when your Chinese- Russian- BRICS+ rivals aspire for the very opposite.

Good point. How do the completely insane compete agains the rational?

I always felt that the Kissinger Nixon raproachment with China had more to do with smashing what were at that time very powerfull trade unions in the US and creating massive business opportunities. Geopolitical objectives were close to non existant in real terms.

This eventually opened up a bunch of US companies with fat pension funds and good book value to raiding in the '80's. Broken up they were worth more and believe me I fought that battle at my company at the time. We came close to stopping their debasement of our pension fund after they broke up the company. The heavy hitters came out of the woodwork like cockaroaches.

China's military power was fairly inconsquential until Clinton came along and basically sold off the MICs family jewels to China. There appears to me to be some wierd cabal in the Democrat party that wants this that is still around wanting some sort of weird deal with China to rid them of their enemies in the US.

How both parties worked together to help China along its path to modernization with the Republicans on the business side and the Democrats and the war side is a little explored subject. Nothwithstanding the Chinese are very capable and smart in their own right and now have the power to kick the US out of the Western Pacific if they so desire. My point is the "parties" helped to speed their success by many decades.

Posted by: circumspect | Jul 23 2023 1:39 utc | 85

Fascinating. I guess Biden et al weren’t allowed to read that old Brezezinski (spelling!) paper. Seems like Putin did and has been waiting for the offer which never came. Too bad now it’s Russia and China v the west. Here’s hoping someone has the guts to stop this madness.

Posted by: Inki | Jul 23 2023 1:40 utc | 86

Posted by: mtw | Jul 22 2023 17:25 utc | 4

They are flunkies dancing to the tune of their oligarchical leaders whose corruption is legendary and who sometimes work at cross purposes. Are Blackrock, Raytheon, Exxon, Cargill making them even more money? That's all that matters.

An excellent comment.

That is the true nature of structural problem, and destined to catastrophe.

Posted by: Arata | Jul 23 2023 1:42 utc | 87

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 23 2023 1:14 utc | 80

LOL funny because it's true. shade. inna cave.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jul 23 2023 1:45 utc | 88

Leaders? Whatever happened to Representatives? The United States finally died at Appomattox, replaced by the Federal Usurper. Look at the results....it was meant to be this way.

Posted by: Stefan v. | Jul 22 2023 17:47 utc | 11
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Can you explain that comment just a bit? I am not sure I understand exactly what you are trying to say.
"
The Battle of Appomattox Court House, fought in Appomattox County, Virginia, on the morning of April 9, 1865, was one of the last battles of the American Civil War (1861–1865). It was the final engagement of Confederate General in Chief, Robert E. Lee, and his Army of Northern Virginia before they surrendered...."

Never mind, I think I know what you are trying to say but don't have the guts to say it out loud.
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Posted by: Ed | Jul 23 2023 1:52 utc | 89

Since the fall of the Soviet Union it is a rare government that gives a dam about the working class. The MIC can survive whatever that the conditions in the country it is situated.

Posted by: Inki | Jul 23 2023 2:03 utc | 90

No matter how stupid a politician or bureaucrat might SOUND to you, just remember that they almost invariably have higher IQ's and are more successful than the average of their constituents. That's a fact. These people rule over complete idiots. It's natural for them to feel a sense of superiority and to think that their opinions are better than the public.

Posted by: Clown World Veteran | Jul 22 2023 17:49 utc | 12
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Biden is not the most powerful person in the world, in a few years he will be out of the picture. The executive branch of the government is nothing but an administrator for a sector of the ruling class. Do you know their names and where they acquired their wealth and power? Maybe you aren't so smart either. People like you look down your nose at other people less successful than yourself: Are you rich and powerful?

Capitalism and the phony bourgeois "democracy" is not an act of nature, it was created to control the masses for the interest of the few. You got another plan Clown?

Posted by: Ed | Jul 23 2023 2:05 utc | 91

circumspect @ 85

"There appears to me to be some wierd cabal in the Democrat party that wants this that is still around wanting some sort of weird deal with China to rid them of their enemies in the US."

I think you are on to something with that. See (@t=12:12):

A Portal Into the Progressive Mind ft. Eric Weinstein | Ep. 39

https://youtu.be/1CCde6TAKdw?t=713

That sounds to me very similar to what you are getting at / percieved. IMHO

Posted by: Rokossovsky | Jul 23 2023 2:10 utc | 92

The cure for what ails the Democratic party is Bobby in the Whitehouse.

Sorry if this is off topic.

Posted by: Morongobill | Jul 23 2023 2:24 utc | 93

@ 71--Cont'd--

One other comment made by Mahbubani:

"That's the reason why you will see this contest carry on. But at the same time, the US will keep on trying until it comes to a point and realizes they cannot stop China. When it realizes they cannot stop China, then it hopefully will listen to my advice and adopt a wiser policy of trying to integrate China in the global order that China and the US can build together."

There's no way this will occur. Xi's Global Security Initiative says a big NO! to hegemony and thus "the global order" will be rebuilt by Russia, China, RoW on the basis of the UN Charter which the Outlaw US Empire breaks daily. Also, China has already surpassed the Outlaw US Empire as the world's #1 economic power. And then there's this howler:

"I think the US has one of the most dynamic, open political systems in the world. It is always changing."

Although in the same paragraph he does go on to say:

"But now I think more and more intelligent, thoughtful, rational people in the US are beginning to understand what I tried to say in my book, Has China Won, that this isn't going to work, as they say, in America, that no one's going to join the US in isolating China."

Like India, the man is all over the place.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 23 2023 2:46 utc | 94

Re: Appomattox

There is a school of thought that Lincoln (the tyrant) started our Republic on the path of imperial dictatorship. This view is held by mostly Northern small gov’t types.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 23 2023 4:36 utc | 95

Re: affordable housing shortage

Karl - in your town, how much land is given over fo parking lots ? Betcha it’s 30-40%


Posted by: Exile | Jul 23 2023 4:38 utc | 96

@ Rokossovsky | Jul 23 2023 1:23 utc | 81

good post.. thanks for the achived wsj link on craftsman... very relevant.. goes well with b's title to this thread..

Posted by: james | Jul 23 2023 4:50 utc | 97

Yves is a male name.

Posted by: Sam F | Jul 23 2023 5:28 utc | 98

The criminal Nuland is in South Africa. Was nice knowing them.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 23 2023 5:32 utc | 99

The z*onist Biden administration does what is in the interest of the state of I*rael regardless of the consequences for the rest of the world. I*rael needs a world war in order to "replace the US as the ruling state of the world". Their sole purpose is to provoke a third world war just as they planned and executed the first and the second world wars.

May God bless you all!

Posted by: Linus Lejeborg | Jul 23 2023 5:43 utc | 100

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