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July 23, 2023
The MoA Week In Review – (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-175

Last week's post on Moon of Alabama:

> BRUSSELS—When Ukraine launched its big counteroffensive this spring, Western military officials knew Kyiv didn’t have all the training or weapons—from shells to warplanes—that it needed to dislodge Russian forces. But they hoped Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness would carry the day.

They haven’t. …<


Other issues:

Vassals:

War:

Green China:

Use as open (not Ukraine related) thread …

Comments

Interesting that Knapp’s Counterpunch article “No Disclaimers Required” ends with a series of disclaimers. Obviously they were required.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 23 2023 14:40 utc | 1

The Western Plan
WSJ/MSN:

But they hoped Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness would carry the day. …

NO! This is bullshit.
Western military officials did not expect “Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness” to dislodge Russian forces. They expected Ukrainians to fail, but that events would force NATO to intervene on the Ukrainian side and “carry the day.” Even if these Western military officials did not actually believe this, it is the lie they fed to their Ukrainian puppets.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 23 2023 14:42 utc | 2

thanks for the additional reading links b… judging by the first two comments – there is a lot of lying going on!

Posted by: james | Jul 23 2023 15:03 utc | 3

Interesting that Knapp’s Counterpunch article “No Disclaimers Required” ends with a series of disclaimers. Obviously they were required.
Posted by: bevin | Jul 23 2023 14:40 utc | 1
Yes, much too defensive, all through. Makes a crappy read too, with all the not-hedging hedging.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 23 2023 15:05 utc | 4

The author of Germany down the rabbit hole obviously found a rabbit hole of his own. An 0,3 percent GDP contraction QonQ is by definition a recession, but it hardly qualifies as “an economy in free fall “.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Jul 23 2023 15:15 utc | 5

Seymour Hersh: Ordinary People by the Millions
This interview with Thomas Frank gives mixed feelings. Truly gifted writer, very bright and unlike many such, he actually identifies with the people.
His book, The Conquest of Cool along with his journal The Baffler really helped me put the youth culture of the 90s into to perspective.
So, it’s sad when you get to his undying belief the Dems can be reformed. He knows that party in particular has been the graveyard of every progressive social movement for well on 100 years now and yet, he still isn’t ready to part with it.
It makes me wonder is this naivete, stupidity or bad faith.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 23 2023 15:26 utc | 6

@ Jörgen Hassler | Jul 23 2023 15:15 utc | 5
i just finished reading the politico article.. i recommend it.. it confirms much of what our regular poster roger has articulated on the german car market and a whole lot more… it is a sobering read, especially if you live in germany..

Posted by: james | Jul 23 2023 15:31 utc | 7

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 23 2023 14:42
Straight up, Petri!
WSJ has always been the capitalist paper, but it was once like the FT in the sense that you’d get some objective analysis of things impacting the economy if only to aid the rich in making their bets.
Once this war on Russia began last year it, like every other news source went mad and became unreadable propaganda.
There is no good reason to read this rag anymore except perhaps to employ a sort of kremlinology approach like those seeking information about Stalin’s regime would when trying to discern the hidden meaning behind the lies of Pravda.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 23 2023 15:33 utc | 8

THE MASK IS OFF (Why Ukraine Will NEVER Be a NATO Member)
This one is excellent.
Opposing War: No Disclaimers Required
This one really shows how feckless what passes for the left in the US is at the moment. He’s going to go out on a limb and say Russia was provoked. Wow! What soldier for truth.
But, despite the Nazi plan to annihilate every man woman and child in the Donbas, this brave soul can’t say the SMO was justified.
Then closes by asserting the moral equivalence of Putin and Zelinsky! Total crap.
That’s like saying the Nazis and Soviets we’re morally equivalent, which is actually the thesis RC hack Timothy Snyder was pushing in the run up to the Maidan coup, carried out by Ukronazis on behalf of US imperialism. See Bloodlands.
Follow such “anti war leftists” and you’ll end up supporting Nazis.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 23 2023 17:07 utc | 9

Posted by: james | Jul 23 2023 15:31 utc | 7
The problem with being an economist by education and an ex reporter by trade is the shame you feel reading what other so called journalists write.
This is a complete lie:
“Nearly 20 years ago, Germany overcame its reputation as the “sick man of Europe” with a package of ambitious labor market reforms that unshackled its industrial potential and ushered in a sustained period of prosperity“
Just look at world bank gdp statistics — there has been no sustained boom the last 20. The statement is so blatantly false it makes you shake your head in wonder.
The same goes for industry. It true that it’s bigger than in the US (is that necessarily a bad thing?) and it’s true that it’s not growing. As it hasn’t been for the last 30 years. Once again, check the world bank (they are evil, but they are good at counting).
As for unemployment it rose by 0,1 percentage points, hardly a free fall, is it? It’s at 5,7 percent, close to a 20 year low. The total employment rate is 77 percent, compared to US 60 percent.
The thing that is problematic at the moment are energy prices, they are probably the highest in the world. And something will have to be done about that in the coming years.
I think a lot of alternative (reality?) commentators spell doom over German (and Swedish) economy because they live with an unreflected US supremacist world view that makes it impossible to grasp the relative robustness of a mixed economy (aka the welfare state).

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Jul 23 2023 17:13 utc | 10

@ Jörgen Hassler | Jul 23 2023 15:15 utc | 5
i just finished reading the politico article.. i recommend it.. it confirms much of what our regular poster roger has articulated on the german car market and a whole lot more… it is a sobering read, especially if you live in germany..
Posted by: james | Jul 23 2023 15:31 utc | 7
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@ Jörgen Hassler
It is the long term that needs to be considered. Manufacturing, especialing car manufacturing has been the engine driving the German economy.
Die ‘Rust Belt am Rhein’ from Politico, July 13:
BA recent survey of 128 German auto suppliers by the VDA, an industry group, found that not a single one planned to increase their investment in their home market. More than a quarter were planning to shift operations abroad.
Volkswagen announced it would invest roughly €1 billion in an electric vehicle center near Shanghai. BASF is planning to be mostly gone with a 10B Euro investment in China.
If Germany sneezes, the EU will catch a cold. Great article.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 23 2023 17:19 utc | 11

Re: German Economy
Traveling through Germany, the most common advertisement one sees is ‘come work for us, we are the best employer and have the best career path’
What is in Germany considered handwringing decline would be considered in the US a booming vibrant society.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 23 2023 18:02 utc | 12

@ Jörgen Hassler | Jul 23 2023 17:13 utc | 10
thanks jorgen… i live in canada and i read things, but it is hard for me to know the reality on the ground which is why i appreciate you sharing your perspective here.. at the same time i think the energy costs are a huge factor and must feed into the developing challenges germany is going to be dealing with moving forward.. as @ Acco Hengst | Jul 23 2023 17:19 utc | 11 points out and which moa poster roger has discussed in an ongoing manner – the german car industry is in trouble with no end in sight… at any rate – thanks for sharing your perspective on this here..

Posted by: james | Jul 23 2023 18:24 utc | 13

I took a road trip from Lake Geneva to Frankfurt a couple of weeks ago, passed many Industrial Plants with large smokestacks on the way. It could have been holiday season, it could have been the price of LNG but I did not see smoke coming out of a single smokestack.

Posted by: qparker | Jul 23 2023 18:33 utc | 14

6, re Frank “It makes me wonder is this naivete, stupidity or bad faith.”
Frank lost it a few years back, either Trump syndrome or scamdemic. This has happened so many times with so many people that “naivete, stupidity or bad faith” seem to need a fourth option. For someone to participate in a witch hunt, which of those applies? I wish I could figure this out.

Posted by: oracle | Jul 23 2023 18:54 utc | 15

qparke @ 14
Smokestacks for the most part should not emit smoke, they emit gasses that are under continuous analysis for process optimization and for enviromental optimization. Look for steam plumes and heat sources coming off cooling devices and stacks. That would be a better sign of large plant operations.
Sometimes you can see the predator birds using smokestack emmissions to effortlessly gain elevation by using the heat coming off the stack.

Posted by: circumspect | Jul 23 2023 19:12 utc | 16

PRESENT-DAY EUROPE, by Lothrop Stoddard – The Unz Review
British reluctance in 1914 to negotiate peace with Germany led to much grief

Posted by: snake | Jul 23 2023 19:22 utc | 17

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 23 2023 17:19 utc | 11
It’s true that car manufacturing started to fall quite dramatically in 2018 or so, but the last two years it’s been on a rebound. How ever I don’t think it will regain the importance it had in the second half of the twentieth century.
My point is that that happens to industries. In Sweden we have lost shipbuilding. One of our two carmakers is now Chinese, the other went bust.
A mixed welfare economy you can absorb those kinds of chocks. The economy keeps going because of wealth transfers. New sectors can be created by using direct subsidies, or by using indirect subsidies like infrastructure and directed re-education of the work force.
Losing Russian energy, Russian raw materials and access to the Russian market was a big hit for the German economy no doubt. But just like in Russia it didn’t create the chaos predicted.
De-risking (stupid word!) with china would create significantly worse problems, but my guess is that neither German business nor organised labour will let that happen.
I could be wrong, but I think while the political leaders are religiously atlanticist, most people actually doing stuff are probably realists. And they tend not to make the same mistake twice.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Jul 23 2023 19:31 utc | 18

I suspected something like that, the Germans are impressive compared to the Texas gulf coast I am used to!

Posted by: qparker | Jul 23 2023 19:33 utc | 19

Guys, don’t forget the currently on-going war on the ground fiels !
RF have had a lot of losses, so UKR have had (factor 1:5 realistic? Don’t know by any official or by PM sources).
Crimea has been targeted by UK StormShadows severe targets “any” times last 48h.
Why is London calm? Be careful Sunak, Your home could be burned!

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 23 2023 19:57 utc | 20

CLUSTER ammunition fired over LONDON Tower Bridge would be s “fine” answer to Mr.President Sunak’s approach ..-or what else to discuss, beside the Koran burnings worlwide?
So, Mr. Blinken, get strip-off your legs, show Yor cock like Mr. Z.!, get naked nowadays!

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 23 2023 20:07 utc | 21

Memory-holing Nord Stream
It is interesting, that the Politico article on the deindustrialization of Germany fails to mention the American sanctions against Nord Stream and the bombing of the pipeline. This is all it says on the topic.

By halting deliveries of natural gas to Germany, the Kremlin effectively removed the linchpin of the country’s business model, which relied on easy access to cheap energy. Though wholesale gas prices have recently stabilized, they’re still roughly triple where they were before the crisis. That has left companies like BASF, whose main German operation alone consumed as much natural gas in 2021 as all of Switzerland, with no choice but to look for alternatives.

In other news, the German physicist H.B. Braun now claims that Nord Stream 1 was destroyed by a 1 kiloton nuclear blast. For more, see the sources at the end of my page on the bombing of Nord Stream pipelines.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 23 2023 20:49 utc | 22

Thanks to b again for providing so much information on this Week in Review agenda. I notice that the July 22 topic – “The US Wars Against Russia and China…are not included in the list, though the subject of a ‘green China’ is appended. Before I go to read those articles, here is a fragment of karlof1’s comment at 94 on that thread:

“…Xi’s Global Security Initiative says a big NO! to hegemony and thus the ‘global order’ will be rebuilt by Russia, China, RoW on the basis of the UN Charter …”

The question b had raised in that thread was: “Why [is] the US doing this harm to itself instead of following Brzezinski’s and Kissinger’s advice?”
The subject of Kissinger’s visit to China was addressed in comments, and also in the previous Open Thread (not Ukraine) of July 20. I raise b’s question here again as I want to repost an extract with link from the July 20 OT(not Ukraine) next as it poses the question from the Chinese perspective.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 23 2023 21:26 utc | 23

Sorry, “…is not included…”

Posted by: juliania | Jul 23 2023 21:27 utc | 24

Here is that extract I mentioned above:

@juliania, #72:
Thank you so much for your esteem response. I agree with you that the ancient Greek values I know of, handed down to us through the poetic history accounts, was different from those of what is embodied in the west of today. I sense the absence of ethnic oriented prejudices of in those days. Rivalries, some of which ethnicity based, yes. But hatred, or the penchant for dominance over others, wasn’t there then. Not in Greece. Written accounts are meager, but what there is paints a different picture of how the Romans treated Carthage.
Your analogy to Iliad, of what you perceive as Nixon and Kissinger’s objectives in their rapprochement with China, triggered some interesting philosophical thought in my mind. It is natural and inevitable that different cultures and/or ethnicities would compare themselves with each other, especially among those viewed as being equal in grandness and depth. The Chinese, Hindi/Aryan, Greek, Persian, Arabian, etc. cultures come to mind. They were all brilliant and deserving of emulations. But there is then a dichotomy: One may seek to expand/spread one’s own culture/ethnic norms through dominance over others, or one can resort to compete peacefully. Especially now that it is at a juncture that seems to highlight two dominant cultures in particular, one from the East and the other the West. From all public expressions and manifestations, it seems the East mantra is to plead for peace while to compete, the West is stating in clear terms that it will either be my way, or the highway. The Roman way!!! The West says: we’ll strangle you every which way, in technology, economy, trade, what have you, if you don’t bow and kiss our feet. And they are putting this sentiment into actions: forming cliques to wear you down in wars (using dupes who seem to be willing to serve as cannon fodders); destroying markets chains to deprive you of what seem to be your needs; stir chaos/destructions/internal strife (capitalizing on their nascent soft-power); or even outright war!!! when it is perceived that the Roman wannabes have the apparent military advantage. They did it to the American Natives, the Arabs, the Persians, the Blacks, the Viets, the Koreans, the…… They had many successes! Now they are onto Russians, and later to include the Chinese. Will they succeed again or always? Or will they fall off cliffs/run into stonewalls??? We shall see!
China is pleading for peace. China doesn’t want to fight and kill compatriots in Taiwan/Xizang/Xinjiang. But China is resolute in not wanting their nation to splinter and weaken either. China is pleading for cooperation on global fairness, weather management, multilateral economic growth, global harmony and well beings, the so-called multipolarity. I’m sure that’s the message Xi Jinping and Li Qiang urge Kissinger to take back to America. Would The Empire think this over and put aside their Roman mentality???
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 21 2023 22:16 utc | 77
This Global Time editorial is worth a read. It states China’s take on this Kissinger visit very plainly:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202307/1294854.shtml
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 21 2023 22:53 utc | 78

Posted by: juliania | Jul 23 2023 21:29 utc | 25

So, it’s sad when you get to his undying belief the Dems can be reformed.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 23 2023 15:26 utc | 6

It seems that in more cases now than in recent decades, the question is whether a Dem can be “deprogrammed.”

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 23 2023 21:39 utc | 26

Posted by: bevin | Jul 23 2023 14:40 utc | 1
I’m curious. Did Counterpunch ever allow comments? I seem to remember that being the case in the past. It’s no wonder that St. Clair has turned them off these days. They don’t respond to Twitter messages either when attempting to get them to issue corrections to their articles. I wonder if they have a Facebook presence where they would find it hard to avoid criticisms in comments, but I no longer use that shitty platform so I wouldn’t know.
On that topic: https://www.honest-broker.com/p/how-web-platforms-collapse-the-facebook

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 23 2023 21:48 utc | 27

“…Did Counterpunch ever allow comments?…”
Tom_Q_Collins@27
Not in my recollection. I do think however that they had a Facebook page or something of the sort where comments could be parked-offshore, as it were.
Never having been near Facebook in my life I really wouldn’t know, But someone here must remember.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 23 2023 22:00 utc | 28

I will simply add to the extracts above that as I reflected on Homer’s ‘Iliad’ and ‘Odyssey’ an important distinction and why China’s attitude to visitors reminds me of them is that the Greeks then believed it was fundamentally important to greet a stranger with generosity since one could never know if by so doing one was entertaining a god in disguise. From the link to the Global Times article provided, that is the Chinese attitude as well.
It’s not rocket science, but it is how best to behave towards one another.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 23 2023 22:26 utc | 29

This is critical analysis by real investigative journalism.
I think it needs reading impartially.
“During the pandemic, the challenge for each of us was to maintain critical distance: spurning both the tribalism of those insisting Covid was a hoax and the counter-tribalism of those who demanded complete acquiesence to a corporate-political agenda dictated by Big Pharma under the mantle of “Follow the science”. “
https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2023-07-18/people-dying-greater-numbers/

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 23 2023 22:31 utc | 30

This is it for me today:
Those three China links b has provided intermesh – thank you b!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 23 2023 23:02 utc | 31

Jörgen Hassler | Jul 23 2023 17:13 utc | 10–
Here in the Outlaw US Empire we have about 340 million people, 100 million of which aren’t even counted in the labor force. Shadowstats has had our real unemployment rate at 25% for the past two years after it dropped down from the spike to 35% at Covid’s 2000 release, and you’ll note from the linked graph that it’s been over 20% since the Great Financial Fraud of 2007-9. Lying about Genuine GDP is even worse, and this chart still overcounts “production” as genuine GDP hasn’t grown since the GHW Bush recession. And I very much suspect similar distortions of every Neoliberal nation’s numbers. What I would look at is the payroll figures as those are very hard to falsify. If industrial jobs are being lost and replaced by service jobs, the payroll figure ought to show declines since service jobs pay much less yet are still counted as a job. Also, Germany’s government has reported a massive shortfall of revenue from taxes, which is another key indicator of economic health.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 23 2023 23:55 utc | 32

@ DunGroanin | Jul 23 2023 22:31 utc | 30
An interesting article from Jonathan Cook, thank you. He walks a very tight wire, citing great familiarity with John Campbell’s videos, and yet professing not to know what’s causing the excess death phenomenon throughout the (westernized) world.
But I understand that wire, and it works fine for his thesis – namely, that the true mystery is why governments and institutions are immovably reluctant to investigate, or even acknowledge, this “pandemic” of deaths. And this wave of death is vastly greater than any we saw from Covid, even with the now-admittedly false labeling of cause of death as Covid when other causes were the true case.
So…why? Why does government fail to investigate something that is by now in-the-face obvious?
Because, observes Cook, they are frightened – scared to death of what they might find.
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They are scared in a visceral way of what will be revealed if they open Pandora’s Box by acknowledging the excess deaths. And what will be revealed is what has come out of the original Pandora’s Box which THEY themselves opened in 2020 and 2021 – the massive disaster of the vaccines.
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We – in the USA at least – learned during the pandemic that we were completely on our own. No government or institution or system would care about us, let alone care for us.
Thus it is that we have also learned the truth on our own. No accomplice media, accessory to this mass crime, nor any federal agency, nor any medical or commercial or technological institution will even today tell us the truth, or admit to facts that we are seeing every day now.
They are all scared that if they open the lid of this tsunami of disaster that is happening right now, today, and with no end in sight – if they open the lid even a fraction, all hell will break loose.
And we, the people in the USA and elsewhere, see that lid raising on its own anyway, from the sheer pressure of reality. What happens when that lid blows?

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 24 2023 0:37 utc | 33

“..the Greeks then believed it was fundamentally important to greet a stranger with generosity since one could never know if by so doing one was entertaining a god in disguise. From the link to the Global Times article provided, that is the Chinese attitude as well.
It’s not rocket science, but it is how best to behave towards one another.
Posted by: juliania | Jul 23 2023 22:26 utc | 29
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Henry Kissinger is NO stranger, and he deserves NO respect. He is the Ivy League’s favorite war criminal.
https://www.salon.com/2015/04/17/the_ivy_leagues_favorite_war_criminal_why_the_atrocities_of_henry_kissinger_should_be_mandatory_reading/
If killing hundreds of thousands of innocent peasants by dropping over a million of tons of bombs on undefended civilian targets is not a war crime as Kissinger advised Nixon to do in Vietnam, Loas, and Cambodia, then there are no such thinks as war crimes.
Kissinger aided the violent overthrow of Chile’s government by the war criminal Augusto Pinochet in 1973. “I don’t see why we need to stand by and watch a country go Communist due to the irresponsibility of its people,” Kissinger said. An elected government was overthrown and over 3000 people were murdered, and tens of thousands of Chileans had to flee their homes and country.
Kissinger encouraged Iraqi Kurds to rebel in 1975 only to abandon them when Saddam Hussein struck a deal with the Shah of Iran.
Kissinger gave the U.S.’s blessings to Indonesian strongman Suharto’s invasion of East Timor, which murdered tens of thousands of people without trial or due process, often just based on a rumors that someone was a “communist.”
Kissinger knew of plans to overthrow Archbishop Makarios in Cyprus and later of Turkey’s planned invasion of the island and yet did nothing. 180,000 Greek Cypriots had to flee their homes, 10,000 Turkish Cypriots were forced to relocate, and Turkey still has an undetermined number of settlers in Cyprus. The capital of Cyprus, Nicosia, remains divided.
There is so much more but I am doing this on the fly. I recommend that you read “The Trial of Henry Kissinger,” a 2001 book by Christopher Hitchens which examines the alleged war crimes of Henry Kissinger, the National Security Advisor and later, the U.S. Secretary of State for Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford or view the documentary if it is still available (which I doubt).
In another thread you suggested that we, here at MoA, should show the war criminal some courtesy? Are you serious? You might as well ask us to shake hands with Adolf Hitler and show some respect.

Posted by: Ed | Jul 24 2023 0:49 utc | 34

more…re Grieved | Jul 24 2023 0:37 utc | 33
Cook in his article asks why officialdom refuses to see the excess deaths that all of their official systems are recording, all at a magnitude of total disaster by anybody’s arithmetic.
He doesn’t answer the question, but it’s a fair point to make simply to ask it. It takes courage just for that.
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Ed Dowd has both asked and answered this question, and I drew my conclusion above from his, namely that governments are scared to address the excess deaths because the first hammer-blow of guilt will fall straight on their own heads.
Here’s a quote from his superb book, Cause Unknown, speaking of the Danish government:

“The Danish authorities are stopping the vaccine for people under 50 because they see this same alarming data that you’re seeing in these pages.Undeniably, something new is causing excess deaths among the young. Though admitting mass vaccination is the culprit would be very difficult for any government, it would be the truth.
“On Wall Street, we’d call Denmark’s recent decisions a tell, or a tone change.
“So, when we see a huge tone change by the Danish government, what they are actually communicating is that the vaccine doesn’t work, kills some people – and they know it.”

I have cited this book, but only now finally ordered it and I’m halfway through reading it. I recommend it unreservedly, earnestly in fact. It’s a brilliant book.
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The format is innovative, and the proofs and citations are done in a way I’ve never seen before, with QR codes imprinted next to each statement and screenshot of news stories about “sudden deaths,” and an invitation to scan and verify each story as true, and each claim.
It’s a superbly “easy” book to read, with charts that speak well for themselves, and stories to make your head reel and your heart to ache. It’s “easy” to read this book, but it’s appallingly hard to take in what it tells. What it shows above all is the sheer magnitude of this event. I’d never seen it all put together like this and made so real. The scope of this phenomenon of excess deaths is vast.
It looks like a coffee table book, with a photographic jacket, and filled with page upon page of screenshots and composites – and most of the faces are bright and strong, and young and vigorous – above all, happy – and all of those people are dead. Sudden, unexpected, dying in their sleep, or on stage, or on the field. Young teens, dying in their sleep.
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Never in history has this phenomenon been seen, without its cause being urgently sought out and its eradication attempted.
But no one in authority wants to know.
The lid is blowing, and probably slowly at first, then all at once.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 24 2023 1:01 utc | 35

…[snip]…
So…why? Why does government fail to investigate something that is by now in-the-face obvious?
…[snip]…
Posted by: Grieved | Jul 24 2023 0:37 utc | 33

My experience has been that government admits fault only after the anticipated embarrassment of doing so has become less than the actual embarrassment of not doing so.
An example from around 1990: the government of New Jersey (USA) had mandated that an additive whose abbreviation was I believe MTBE be added to all gasoline to be sold in the state. It wasn’t long before motorists started reporting symptoms that seemed attributable to it, but the State of NJ continued insisting that these symptoms either weren’t real or weren’t related to MTBE. Well, eventually, the evidence exceeded the threshold for greater embarrassment from not admitting fault, and the State of NJ did so. It turned out that for mandating the additive the state received a financial benefit from the US EPA.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 24 2023 2:10 utc | 36

Grieved | Jul 24 2023 1:01 utc | 35–
During my stay at OHSU, I was asked a handful of times if I wanted a Covid vaccine. I declined and answered the only Covid vaccine I’d want is not allowed by the US government, which elicited a surprised look, which prompted me to say Sputnik-V, the outstanding Russian vaccine. In two cases, the dialog continued with me saying I beat Covid with a medication used in Bangladesh and India, and that’s how everyone in my household that got it beat Covid–including one who was previously vaccinated. I thank you for continuing to follow the issue you commented about as it’s clearly important and we in the West aren’t going to get an answer until the Towers of Big Pharma are stormed and their secrets revealed. The Fugitive‘s plotline is at the foundation as it’s all about greed combined with Malthusianism, and that specific story’s been around for decades.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 24 2023 2:20 utc | 37

Either write something worth reading about, or do something worth writing about. Blinken, Sullivan, Kirby and the rest of the clown show are but a footnote in history. Things are hard to predict, especially the future.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jul 24 2023 2:23 utc | 38

“During the pandemic, the challenge for each of us was to maintain critical distance: spurning both the tribalism of those insisting Covid was a hoax and the counter-tribalism of those who demanded complete acquiesence to a corporate-political agenda dictated by Big Pharma under the mantle of “Follow the science”. “
https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2023-07-18/people-dying-greater-numbers/
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 23 2023 22:31 utc | 30

This comparison is broken. Instead of citing “tribalism … hoax,” Cook should have acknowledged the numerous physicians, scientists, and other highly qualified individuals who attempted to rationally voice evidence-based concerns but were denounced or censored by governments or their allies (such as in Big Tech).
Some posters above have noted that Cook might well be in a delicate position. I can appreciate that, but I don’t see it as a reason to withhold what seems a valid criticism of what he wrote.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 24 2023 2:25 utc | 39

Grieved | Jul 24 2023 0:37 utc | 33
*** And we, the people in the USA and elsewhere, see that lid raising on its own anyway, from the sheer pressure of reality. What happens when that lid blows?***
Well, in modern Britain …. probably nothing much.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 24 2023 2:48 utc | 40

@ karlof1 | Jul 24 2023 2:20 utc | 37
That’s a good story – thank you, brother. So glad you are alive and well in this world.
Agree on The Fugitive and suggest even more so on The Constant Gardener – I read the book long before the movie and I will always remember Le Carre’s afterword. It was the most lawyer-vetted page you can imagine and Le Carre used all of his writing skill to avoid charges of defamation while making it very clear that the ruthless depravity of Pharma that he illustrated in his novel didn’t even come close to the reality.
I often pondered the difference, and what’s clear to me now is the element of collusion. The most vicious hoodlum can be one level of scary – but when that hoodlum has the entire establishment on its side, taking a share of the profits and putting out smoke to cover it at every turn, that’s some kind of scary that’s an order of magnitude greater.
Like the difference between Scarface and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 24 2023 3:17 utc | 41

Trans…
Kim Iversen does an hour long interview with a psychiatrist/therapist who is sounding the alarm about the trans phenomenon. A friend of mine’s daughter just “transd” and they are torn up so I’m trying to learn. This conversation taught me a huge amount about what’s going on, didn’t really get into the biochemical issue (although Kim mentioned it).
I highly recommend this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAAOuc7dNF0

Posted by: migueljose | Jul 24 2023 3:20 utc | 42

Seymour Hersh and
It makes me wonder is this naivete, stupidity or bad faith.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 23 2023 15:26 utc | 6
You raise good points here. If I may be so bold, I think it helps to understand / accept that no matter how good or insightful an American may appear, they have all had their minds poisoned by the toxic culture and the prevailing social ideologies in some way or another. Either from growing up in America or from living there for a period of time.
Their heads are constantly being filled from birth with pernicious falsehoods from all directions within a prevailing cultural narcissism – no one could resist this assault entirely. This is how I have come to see the US. All the people, to some degree, are affected by similar kinds of distorted beliefs and delusions about their own country and the world in general irrespective of their own personal or political leanings.
imo at least. So Seymour Hersch and Noam Chomsky are not immune to this. RFK Jr is another topical example. While there are examples of gross stupidity, bad faith and bad intent by genuine bad actors, overall most really can’t help it. Most Americans actually believe the most outrageous BS they speak.
The exceptions prove the rule. No offense intended to anyone.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jul 24 2023 3:22 utc | 43

Some music for your enjoyment. If you like the 80s. The Fix, “Stand or Fall”, “”One Thing Leads to Another”, “Saved By Zero”, “Red Skies”. The lyrics are good.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jul 24 2023 3:32 utc | 44

Posted by: Ed | Jul 24 2023 0:49 utc | 34
At this moment, when the stakes are as high as they are, in matters of state, it matters that China has different judgments from yours, Ed. That is how it is with national leaders and those who rule. I did not say you must invite such people into your own home.
Probably better if you don’t, okay?

Posted by: juliania | Jul 24 2023 3:46 utc | 45

Putin has penned a letter to Africans as the Russia-Africa Summit begins in three days. Complete translation here.
Grieved | Jul 24 2023 3:17 utc | 41–
Thanks for your reply and memory jog–The Constant Gardner–which scared my mom bigtime. We saw the movie together and agreed it was very flat versus the book. Yes, the only logical conclusion is that we have a Mafia government.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 24 2023 4:40 utc | 46

On excess deaths – EuroStat
EU excess mortality continued to rise in April 2023
For context, the excess mortality rate was 12.0% in April 2022 (40 200 excess deaths), 20.9% in April 2021 (73 600 excess deaths), and 25.2% in April 2020 (105 000 excess deaths). Alongside the peaks recorded in April 2020 and 2021, there were peaks in November 2020 (+40.0%, 140 000 excess deaths) and November 2021 (+26.6%, 94 000 excess deaths).
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20230616-3

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 24 2023 4:50 utc | 47

@Grieved | Jul 24 2023 1:01 utc | 35

The lid is blowing, and probably slowly at first, then all at once.

Thank you very much for posting about this issue.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2023 5:13 utc | 48

Juliania I gave you my email address but someone called “persiflo” and “niko” keeps responding with weird pictures of himself and KYC (know your customer) type crypto/investment selfies containing personal info. Did you want to discuss my 90+ page “book” about the fraud of modern Christianity or not? If not I will block “persiflo” who clearly hasn’t even bothered to read beyond the TOC other than critiquing me on my “research paper” which is more than he’ll ever generate in his entire lifetime. Perhaps that’s Nemesis under a pseudonym?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2023 5:34 utc | 49

Correction to the above ^^ “if SO” I will block this fool and forget the entire endeavor.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2023 5:35 utc | 50

@ karlof1 with the Putin letter to African leaders link….thanks
My eye caught the following from it:

the formation of a monetary and financial system and mutual settlement mechanisms that are safe and free from adverse external influences.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 24 2023 6:18 utc | 51

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 23 2023 23:55 utc | 32
28 percent of the German workforce is employed in industry. There’s been a big drop in the last three decades, but since 2012 it has been hovering around that level.
Also important to note is that the jobs are in high value added production requiring skilled labour. There’s a shortage of trained workers, yet another indication that the German economy is far from in a free fall.
There’s been a lot of talking about moving industry to the US because of lower, but you can’t find skilled industry workers there any more, so I don’t think much will come of it in the end.
Mind you: fewer industry workers is not necessarily a sign of deindustrialisation. In Sweden the number of industry workers has been halved since the nineteen seventies. During the same time the value of industry production in fixed prices has doubled.
I agree that capitalist measures don’t show the state of the real economy, but if a capitalist economy is in free fall you will be able to tell by looking at them.
To me all the sound and fury about the German economy looks a lot like someone laying the ground work for a colour revolution and a shock therapy to save Germany from it self.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Jul 24 2023 8:01 utc | 52

…US because of lower ENERGY PRICES…

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Jul 24 2023 8:02 utc | 53

I have been looking for ANY indication of German Industry moving to the USA and have found no news whatsoever, plenty of moves to China though. So many I have to wonder what sort of hat trick along the lines of NordStream
the USA will come up with to ruin that for the Germans.

Posted by: qparker | Jul 24 2023 8:08 utc | 54

re: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2023 5:35 utc | 50
Sorry to stick my oar in but I would be very surprised if ‘persiflo’ a relatively recent poster here was in any way connected with Nemesis, a fan of one particular organised religion and therefore a source of occasional annoyance but one who has never given any indication of indulging in the sort of vituperative tosh that persiflo appears to be up to.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jul 24 2023 8:09 utc | 55

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jul 24 2023 3:22 utc | 43
There are many millions of people in the USA, just like a bunch of places on God’s green earth. Indeed, a poisonous mixture of toxic narcissism has been injected into USA society. I like your turn of the phrase! The culprits are pretty easy to figure out if you watch a few commercial breaks on any main stream media outlet in the USA where they thank the sponsors. I mean regular broadcast television. The internet is a bit more difficult to decipher.
You mentioned Chomsky. He was one of the first political writers I read when I realized how F#%$-d we were back in my formative years. His book on East Timor with Edward Herman, The Washington Connection and Third World Fascism, opened my eyes, and Mae Brussell’s radio show opened my ears. But recently Chomsky did a rather large about face regarding “That which shall not be named.” I generally find Chomsky to be a humorless bore and an unengaging writer, but I have a hard time writing a coherent response on MoA, so who am I to complain? Opinions are like certain orifices as it is said in Pindostan. Blah Blah.
To end on a personal note, my life is falling apart here in Los Angeles. I still have the ability to read MoA and come to the realization that I wish they would just go all MAD and end this rather depressing existence. Sergei Lavrov is a personal hero of mine. Along with Nestor Makhno and Roza Shanina. But, yeah, you’re on the whole right. And no offense taken! I always read your posts, and I wish I knew you in real life, like a large number of the commenters here. There are some who for sure I wouldn’t want to know. They could be bad for my health. Perhaps that wouldn’t be a bad thing. I have been re-reading Houellebecq lately…
Here is my favorite t-shirt my wife bought me. Lavrov Lifestyle The picture is not a t-shirt, but you’ll get to see the image. Gromyko 2.0. Slava Bogo way cooler heads prevail.
Much love to the MoA community. God willing I get back to work so I can send b some dough.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 24 2023 8:17 utc | 56

Love the Lavrov T-shirts, had to have one can hardly wait to get back to the States and Wow the crowd at Wal-Mart!

Posted by: qparker | Jul 24 2023 9:22 utc | 57

Lex Talionis @ 56,
Sad to see you have been having difficulties lately. Hope you are recovering well and have people around you to support you. Rest and take your time getting back to work.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jul 24 2023 9:23 utc | 58

karlof1 | Jul 24 2023 2:20 utc | 37
In two cases, the dialog continued with me saying I beat Covid with a medication used in Bangladesh and India, and that’s how everyone in my household that got it beat Covid–including one who was previously vaccinated
Yes, as that lid blows there might even be some nice surprises!

Posted by: john | Jul 24 2023 10:21 utc | 59

Re: health of a economy
Shadowstats is a Excellant source. For those unfamiliar with the shadow stats ; all he does is calculate (GDP, Unemployment, and Inflation) using government methodology from before 1990.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 24 2023 11:24 utc | 60

Sputnik-V was the only true old style vaccine. The rest were all gene therapies.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 24 2023 11:25 utc | 61

Sputnik-V was the only true old style vaccine. The rest were all gene therapies.
Posted by: Exile | Jul 24 2023 11:25 utc | 61

Entirely false. There are several “true old style” (i.e. inactivated virus) COVID vaccines, Sinopharm being the most widely distributed. Nor is Sputnik V “true old style”: it uses the fairly recent viral vector technology that achieved its first success in the Russian Ebola virus vaccine (and its first spectacular failure in the Janssen/J&J COVID vaccine). However, Sputnik V does NOT employ the mRNA technology of dubious efficacy and safety (e.g. Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna).

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 24 2023 11:49 utc | 62

Software as a continuation of war by other means. From The Register a few days ago: https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/20/moveit_victim_count/?td=rt-3a

MOVEit body count closes in on 400 orgs, 20M+ individuals
The number of victims and costs tied to the MOVEit file transfer hack continues to climb as the fallout from the massive supply chain attack enters week seven.
In late May, Russian ransomware gang Clop exploited a security hole in Progress Software’s MOVEit product suite to steal documents from vulnerable networks.
As of today, the number of affected organizations is closing is on 400 and include some really big names: the US Department of Energy and other federal agencies as well as huge corporations like energy company Shell, Deutsche Bank, consulting and business services firm PwC, and retail giant TJX Companies, which confirmed to The Register on Wednesday that “some files were downloaded by an unauthorized third party before Progress notified us of the vulnerability.”

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As of July 19, 383 organizations and over 20 million individuals have been compromised, according to cybersecurity outfit Emsisoft, which sourced its figures from breach notifications, SEC filings, other public data, and Clop’s leak site.
But, as the infosec team notes, some of the companies whose MOVEit installations were breached provide services to many other organizations.
Case in point: Clop exploited a deployment of MOVEit used by payroll services provider Zellis whose customers include British Airways, the BBC, and the Boots pharmacy chain in the UK, among others, and as a result these companies all saw their employees’ records stolen by the Russian gang via the software flaw.
And, as Emsisoft reports, another MOVEit user – the National Student Clearinghouse – partners with more than 3,500 schools in the US and processes information belonging to 17.1 million students.
So it’s likely that the total number of victims will keep growing.

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A very buggy timeline
The May 31 bug – a SQL injection vulnerability – was the first. Progress patched this one, tracked as CVE-2023-34362, the next day. A second bug, CVE-2023-35036, came to light on June 9, and was also patched the next day.
Progress disclosed a third hole, CVE-2023-35708, on June 15.
Finally (we hope), three additional vulnerabilities – CVE-2023-36934, CVE-2023-36932, and CVE-2023-36933 – were spotted and fixed on July 5.
Despite the growing victim count, vulnerable orgs are doing a decent job at remediating MOVEit bugs, according to cybersecurity ratings company Bitsight.
Since the May 31 disclosure, “the number of organizations vulnerable to CVE-2023-34362 has dropped such that at least 77 percent of the originally affected organizations are no longer vulnerable,” Bitsight researcher Noah Stone wrote in a Thursday blog. “At most 23 percent of the initially affected organizations are still vulnerable while higher rates of vulnerability exist among the later CVEs.”
Perhaps unsurprisingly, more organizations are still vulnerable to the three most recent bugs disclosed earlier this month.
“At most 56 percent of organizations originally affected by the newest collection of CVEs … remain vulnerable,” Stone said.
Threat hunters at Huntress discovered the second MOVEit bug, and the firm’s senior security researcher, John Hammond, says these types of supply chain attacks are increasingly attractive to criminals because they provide more bang for the buck.
“Whether or not it be attacks like this MOVEit Transfer example, or even past high-impact intrusions like the Kaseya VSA ransomware incident or SolarWinds exploitation, all of these attacks have a certain supply chain aspect that absolutely expands the potential number of victims, bleeding into downstream organizations and the provider/customer relationship,” Hammond told The Register.

The full piece is at the link above.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jul 24 2023 12:23 utc | 63

Spectacular failure let’s J&J off easy, they should have been sued into oblivion!
Posted by: qparker | Jul 24 2023 12:21 utc | 63

That would be fine by me, but since I was never inoculated with Janssen/J&J, I have no legal standing in the matter.
As it is, J&J is splitting into two corporations in order to shield its more lucrative half from judgments in a raft of asbestos-laden baby powder lawsuits.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 24 2023 12:31 utc | 64

impact intrusions like the Kaseya VSA ransomware incident or SolarWinds exploitation, all of these attacks have a certain supply chain aspect that absolutely expands the potential number of victims, bleeding into downstream organizations and the provider/customer relationship,” Hammond told The Register.
The full piece is at the link above.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jul 24 2023 12:23 utc | 64
A spectacular example of why putting all your sensitive and personal information on a computer, let alone a networked computer running a crap operating system, is a bad idea. (And also why I avoid on-line accounts, it’s like inviting into your life a plague of locusts.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 24 2023 12:39 utc | 65

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 24 2023 11:49 utc | 62
Thanks for the correction, very sloppy thinking on my part. Good that you quickly clarified

Posted by: Exile | Jul 24 2023 12:57 utc | 66

Grieved @ 33
Most of the vax injured will never know it. Their doctor cannot mention it. He has seen 100 times more of condition X than previously and suspects but absolutely may not breathe a word without facing repercussions. Even if the patient dies and there are family members who suspect nothing will be said.
So doctors treat symptoms and nothing more. Even for the rare doctor who would provide care it is all anecdote and word of mouth. Not possible to do studies, to fund studies, to publish.
Two in my immediate circle are vax injured and the prognosis is grim. Nothing I can do when they tell me they are going for jab number six because they sure would not want to catch covid while in this state. And the vax is of course a cure-all. If you don’t agree you must love Trump or Putin. Or both.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 24 2023 13:29 utc | 67

Alistair Crooke lays it all out:

To be blunt, both the U.S. and Europe have stalked brazenly into traps of their own making. Caught in the lies and deceit woven around a claimed inheritance of superior cultural DNA, (vouchsafing, it is said, almost certain victory), the West is awakening to a fast-approaching disaster to which there are no easy solutions. Cultural exceptionalism, together with the prospect of a clear ‘win’ over Russia, are draining rapidly away – but exiting delusion is both slow and humiliating.
The coming devastation is not just centred around the failed Ukraine offensive and NATO’s weak showing. It comprises multiple vectors that have been building over the years, but which are reaching culmination synchronously.
In the U.S., the run-up to momentous elections is underway. The Democrats are in a fix: The party has long since turned its back on its old blue-collar constituency, engaging instead with an urban ‘creative class’ in an exalted, world-shaping ‘social engineering’ project of moral redress, in alliance with Silicon Valley and the Permanent Nomenklatura. But that experiment has run off into the weeds, becoming ever more extreme and absurd. Push-back is building.

Counter-Revolution – ‘Do You Know What Time It Is?’

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 24 2023 14:00 utc | 68

From AlJazeera:

Israel judicial crisis live: Parliament ratifies divisive bill
Israel’s parliament voted into law a contested curb on some Supreme Court powers submitted by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government, the Knesset speaker has announced.
The bill passed by a 64-0 vote, the speaker added, after opposition lawmakers abandoned the Knesset plenum in protest.
Earlier, Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid revealed that talks to reach a solution to the contentious judicial overhaul reform bill, set to be voted on Monday, have failed.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reached parliament ahead of the final vote, after having a pacemaker fitted on Sunday.
United States President Joe Biden urges Israel not to rush increasingly “divisive” reforms given the other challenges facing the US ally.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/7/24/israel-judicial-crisis-talks-collapse-as-parliament-votes

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jul 24 2023 14:16 utc | 69

malenkov | Jul 24 2023 11:49 utc | 62
***There are several “true old style” (i.e. inactivated virus) COVID vaccines, Sinopharm being the most widely distributed. Nor is Sputnik V “true old style”: it uses the fairly recent viral vector technology that achieved its first success in the Russian Ebola virus vaccine (and its first spectacular failure in the Janssen/J&J COVID vaccine). However, Sputnik V does NOT employ the mRNA technology of dubious efficacy and safety (e.g. Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna).***
Valneva was developed in Scotland by the French company of that name. Though promising, quite early in the pandemic it got blocked by those who rule — leaving the UK field to Pfizer and (before it turned out to be quite bad itself) AZ.
Later on, though after the big lockdowns, the US vaccine Novavax was passing all the safety tests … and the authorities had to admit that. So it got official acceptance — on paper.
In reality, while in theory it should be available via the NHS in the UK — you just plain cannot get Novavax. The government and its agencies have deliberately ensured a Pfizer monopoly in the UK — despite Pfizer not having passed any safety tests, and having damaged or killed rather a lot of people.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 24 2023 14:30 utc | 70

@ lex talionis | Jul 24 2023 8:17 utc | 56
hey lex… all the best to you.. i hope your situation changes for the better..

Posted by: james | Jul 24 2023 14:33 utc | 71

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 24 2023 14:30 utc | 73
***There are several “true old style” (i.e. inactivated virus) COVID vaccines, Sinopharm being the most widely distributed.
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Since you seem to know a lot about these things, do you know how much Sinopharm was used inside China? I have read some reports saying that hardly anyone was vaxxed in China and others saying that everybody was.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 24 2023 14:35 utc | 72

Cynic | Jul 24 2023 14:30 utc | 73 …
Should have added that Moderna covid vaccine was also initially used as well as Pfizer, but was gradually phased out. Don’t think it is used now.
Point is, though, that the government and its agencies were, and are, determined that *only* the Pfizer type of vaccine be accessible to the public.
May be mere coincidence that much of the UK public now seems to be even dumber than it was before the pandemic.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 24 2023 14:43 utc | 73

@ lex talionis | Jul 24 2023 8:17 utc | 56
here’s a nice music track for you!
donald byrd – where are we going

Posted by: james | Jul 24 2023 14:47 utc | 74

Scorpion | Jul 24 2023 14:35 utc | 75
***Since you seem to know a lot about these things, do you know how much Sinopharm was used inside China? I have read some reports saying that hardly anyone was vaxxed in China and others saying that everybody was.***
Sorry, don’t know. My focus re covid vaccines during the pandemic and most intense jab-fad was on those which could have been made available in the UK, and the Chinese one was never a contender.
I didn’t take an “anti vaccination” line, but told medical staff etc. that no way would Pfizer type be safe, whereas (if, for instance, I’d needed to travel abroad) Sputnik and others of the non-Pfizer technology would be acceptable. But then the EU refused to recognise these others anyway.
AZ was already suspect for other reasons …. the developers of Sputnik actually offered to help AZ sort these problems, but presumably UK and US government blocked that.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 24 2023 14:58 utc | 75

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 24 2023 14:58 utc | 78
Thanks for your reply.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 24 2023 14:59 utc | 76

When thinking about the danger/safety of the various jabs; it important to distinguish between the MRNA genetic therapy “vaccines” and the others.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 24 2023 15:15 utc | 77

Exile | Jul 24 2023 15:15 utc | 80
*** When thinking about the danger/safety of the various jabs; it important to distinguish between the MRNA genetic therapy “vaccines” and the others.***
Indeed so; but the mass-media and most establishment politicians deliberately tried to limit disagreement to *only* a “pro vaccine” v “anti vaccine” argument — while ignoring the fact that a lot of people had deduced the specifically MRNA type worked in a way that is *very likely to in itself be dangerous* …. while, whatever their plus or minus points, the other type of vaccines did not.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 24 2023 15:31 utc | 78

While I’m not saying that the ‘vaccines’ did not do any damage (I know they did) but I propose that the excess deaths are from the disease wrought by SARS2-Covid itself…
Does no one recall what a Covid infection involves? Damages blood vessels all over the body eh? Immune system damage (airborne AIDES)…
organ damage (any and all), brain damage can all occur even after an ‘asymptomatic’ infection…(Long Covid is a thing too)
What no one seems to get – the damages from a Covid infection don’t always show up right away…I’m watching so many community members die (red county, lots of unvaxxed and unmasked deniers) weeks, months after their (sometimes repeated) encounters with Covid. Remember Covid also messes with your immune system…lots of new cancers, two aneurisms, new high blood pressure diagnosis…autoimmune issues~ALL SINCE THEIR COVID INFECTION(s)
And NOBODY puts the two together!!
I am pretty convinced that most of these ‘excess deaths’ are from the disease itself.
Seems pretty obvious to me…

Posted by: spamned | Jul 24 2023 16:00 utc | 79

Hi MoA community and thanks for the supportive responses. MoA is a sort of therapy for me. I get to realize that I am not insane, yet my beautiful house is not my beautiful house. I think I am quoting the Talking Heads. Or perhaps just paraphrasing them.
Cognitive dissonance is a powerful drug.
James, thanks for the Donald Byrd tune. I still have my radio show (music only, no politrix) but I’ll give you a shoutout. I do the same for Caveman. I remember a video of a gig the real James posted a while back when MoA was smaller and a bit more polite. Real james has his chops!
Much love to the MoA community.
Posted by: qparker | Jul 24 2023 9:22 utc | 57 – Lavrov is my hero. I have had a few interesting responses wearing it. There is a bit of an Eastern European community living here on the westside of the city of angels.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 24 2023 16:02 utc | 80

thanks lex! be well! happy to hear you are still doing the radio show which i’m sure brings joy to you and many others..

Posted by: james | Jul 24 2023 16:16 utc | 81

That there is excess mortality is indubitable. Attributing it to vaccination, however, is a mistake, greatly benefiting the ruling class.
The reasons for both the enormous mortality of the pandemic and the excess mortality currently noticed are all connected to the refusal of the ruling class to devote resources and money to public health and patient healthcare.
This refusal, which is of the essence of the capitalist system, includes a failure to take the obvious measure of nationalising all pharmaceutical manufacture and research. So long as medicine, and healthcare remains a major source of private profit there will be inefficiencies and tragic errors in the production and distribution of medicines and the availability and thoroughness of the entire spectrum of health services ranging from homecare and nursing to the availability of hospital beds.
The truth is that the Covid pandemic offered the world a graphic illustration of the relative effectiveness and the contrasting priorities of public systems, such as that in China and the various forms of price rationed healthcare found in the capitalist countries.
The lesson was obvious and clear: China’s system is a model to be followed. Its priorities, which have roots in the socialist egalitarianism which teaches that all life is of equal value and every death is to be avoided if possible, also conforms with the teaching of most religions including the precepts of Confucius. Capitalism is the current ideology of barbarism that puts private profit before the saving of life.
And that is the key to understanding the Covid crisis: there was never anything mysterious about the measures needed to deal with it. Society had to be mobilised as in wartime: matters of profit and patent should have become irrelevant. The search for cures should have been transformed from a sordid race to make money, without consideration of the outcomes, into a campaign to discover what worked and how to implement and distribute it.
Instead the nature of our society and the capitalist poison at its heart was made quite clear. Happily history, which treasures irony, arranged that our states should be headed by the likes of Trump, Johnson and Bolsonaro, in case there was any doubt about the vulgar greed that our system is all about. As the Covid Emergency struck in New York, Governor Cuomo announced a $400 million reduction in the hospital budget and sent elderly patients back to old age homes to die in their hundreds in order to relieve the budget burden on the public health system.
Sooner than cramp the style of airlines the British government kept its airports working and traffic uninspected for symptoms flowing through them, thus enabling the virus to spread quickly around the world. Trace and treat protocols were starved of resources, personnel and finance. Elderly people were allowed to die without the treatment that woyld have saved many of their lives, including the availability of respirators and a sufficient number of nurses.
In Canada there is a permanent shortage of practictioners because the professions control the availability of medical education, in order to preserve their monopolies. As a result there is a constant drainage from poor countries to rich of trained practitioners with the obvious result that in places like India access to medical care is a luxury, thus making the course of epidemics easy to predict: they spread like wildfire leaving in their wake millions of deaths.
This is no place to enter into details but the outline of the situation is clear: faced with a challenge to the system itself the capitalist state played for time. It had no intention of introducing the necessary reforms because they would have struck at one of the major centres of profitability in the system. On the other hand public clamour for action to mitigate the pandemic could not be ignored- there was a real fear in the ruling class that it might trigger a massive movement of revulsion as inreasingly deep layers of society found themselves forced to question the priorities and callous ideas of their rulers.
Hence the successive and half hearted campaigns to contain and treat the pandemic, most of which turned out to be new ways of transferring wealth from the many to the few. Hence too the alliance with private pharmaceutical corporations, which are clearly dependent on publicly funded research, to turn the crisis into another way of making profits from the survivors by patenting and mandating the use of vaccines as golden bullets that saved the ruling class from changing anything in the system.
There remained just one more strategically necessary aspect to capitalism’s campaign to protect itself from deeper scrutiny. That was the encouragement and sponsorship of the faux anarchism of the anti-vaccine movement and its sister the ‘plandemic’ or ‘scamdemic’ campaign to trivialise not only the pandemic but the ideas of pandemics ( features of globalised society) in future and the necessity for society, in self preservation, to move towards socialism. And, in particular, to reverse the long trend of neo-liberal dismantling of the Health Services which were the Crown Jewels of post war reform movements.
Thus it is that capitalism has emerged from a major challenge, which struck at the heart of its ‘profit over all’ mentality unscathed by popular demand for action which could only lead to socialist measures nationalising hospitals, medical provision and pharmaceuticals by the simple, albeit audacious, tactic of denying the existence of a phenomenon which was undeniably omnipresent.
This was only possible in a society so corrupted by generations of state sponsored misinformation and mendacious propaganda that William Casey’s boast “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” is close to being actualised.
The Capitalist state has reached the point where distrust in it is one of its greatest resources: we can no longer reason together because there is such a widespread and deeprooted suspicion of the evident and an increasing belief that humanity is the sport, not of a ruling class pursuing its own obvious interests, but of secret powers bent on unstated but malevolent objectives, shadowy conspiracies that might just as well be fostered by lizards in outer space as any other nightmarish inventions.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 24 2023 16:57 utc | 82

There’s a new book by Jem Bendell titled Breaking Together: a freedom-loving response to collapse by the originator of Deep Adaptation. The first half of the book consists of Bendell’s updating and elaboration of his arguments in the Deep Adaptation paper that collapse is already well underway in the bio-physical, economic, geopolitical and domestic political realms. The second half is his what must be done ideas that center on wresting power from the elites, primarily by withdrawing from the current neoliberal world and forming communities not built on profit and greed.
I’ve been wary of Bendell up until now because he is a WEF Young Leader product, but he describes in detail how his life as a go getter “corporate sustainability manager” brought him to the point of physical collapse from anxiety and stress. He has now, following his own advice, resigned a professorship in England, moved to a farm where he engages in permaculture with a school teaching others about it, and he’s now offering this book for free via EPub although the Schumacher Institute is also offering it for sale in all the usual formats.
You can download the free book at Bendell’s website. I installed Calibre on my Windows 10 machine in order to read it. Here’s a collection of four videos explaining Deep Adaptation.
I offer this not as an invitation to fight over the reality of Overshoot. You folks who are skeptical keep right on enjoying your lives. “As in the days of Noah…” But for those who look around and see red lights flashing, klaxons blaring and gyroscopes wobbling, Bendell is one thinker who seems to have been looking ahead with Deep Adaptation. Now he’s looking a little further into the future and has some interesting ideas.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jul 24 2023 17:04 utc | 83

Bevin once again sums it up perfectly; thank you.

Posted by: spamned | Jul 24 2023 17:16 utc | 84

Posted by: bevin | Jul 24 2023 16:57 utc | 82
Thanks for that comment. There is a conspiracy afoot, however, to claim excess deaths are zero. The NYT’s David Leonhardt, who has been preaching that Covid is over since Biden was inaugurated, announced that excess deaths in the U. S. were now zero. That is a lie based on the manipulation of the death baseline upward. I posted about it here in a non-Ukraine thread, but the easier way to point to the info is this link to a comment at Naked Capitalism.
The older conspiracy was right out in front. CNBC had an article in early April, 2020 about the five “hedge fund guys” speaking with Trump and Pence about the need for everyone to get back on their hamster wheels ASAP.
Your last paragraph is one everyone should read and take to heart. One manifestation of a breakdown in trust that has worsened into a breakdown in rationality is the reverse conspiracy. With Covid, the real conspiracy was to allow nothing to interfere with Business As Usual even it a killed a million+ because they were mostly old, undocumented or poor. But the conspiracy was reversed into Covid being a hoax that was robbing us of our freedoms. Now Covid is permanent sand in the gears, creating a labor shortage still, but it was all worth it so Applebee’s could stay open. It’s the same with Overshoot. The Club of Rome commissioned but would not publish Limits to Growth. The Meadowses had to go out and find financing. Then the oil companies figured it out, but kept the info from the public as they were planning their Arctic drilling.
Part of it, I believe, is that the “solutions” offered for these very real threats are BS. A vaccine that doesn’t sterilize but seems to have a lot a dangerous side effects and reactions. Or “Electrifying the Titanic” as William Ophuls writes by which we would pump at lot more carbon in the air in order to build all this infrastucture and mine all the materials necessary to build all those batteries. I can understand how people would see such money-making scams and infer that the problem wasn’t real in the first place.
In any case, all these things work together for the good of no one eventually. Collapse will be no fun for the bunker builders either. That’s why I’m recommending in this thread that people check out Jem Bendell’s free book.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jul 24 2023 17:40 utc | 85

A spectacular example of why putting all your sensitive and personal information on a computer, let alone a networked computer running a crap operating system, is a bad idea. (And also why I avoid on-line accounts, it’s like inviting into your life a plague of locusts.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 24 2023 12:39 utc | 65
Agree 100%! Also why I absolutely avoid those brain-killers euphemistically called “smartphones”. So-called “digital natives” would probably burst into tears at the very thought of a command-line prompt.
Unfortunately, pretty well all the organisations we have to interact with on a daily basis (whether it be local or national government, health services, corporations) all insist on saving the data we provide them with onto the so-called “Cloud”, i.e someone else’s computer.
“Creaky, leaky and sneaky” is one description I have seen being applied to the “Cloud” service providers

Sent from my Linux distro

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jul 24 2023 18:23 utc | 86

Henry Moon Pie: I appreciate your mentioning Bendell’s work. I tried doing that a year or so ago and was met with derision. Wishing you better luck!

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 24 2023 18:27 utc | 87

bevin | Jul 24 2023 16:57 utc | 82–
Bravo!! You created the core of a Manifesto that ought to be combined with the other cores you’ve written.
In Global Times report on the upcoming BRICS meeting that’s preliminary to August’s Summit, this little snippet can be read:
“They [developing countries and new emerging economies] noted that BRICS’ increasing attractiveness lies in its bigger role in building consensus, and more countries are seeking to join it to coordinate and work to solve problems that concern them, which worries the US and some Western countries, with many Western media claiming that BRICS countries are leading developing countries away from the West.”
I found that rather funny as the truth is the West’s repelling the RoW and doesn’t seem to see or understand why. Lets see, what did bevin write above that I applauded?!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 24 2023 19:14 utc | 88

I’m way behind and out of touch with the threads – but I think these two things might be connected, and there might be an important international angle to this very Canadian news.
So I post it:
Satire news site, The Beaverton on “5 subtle ways to let people know you’re not American when travelling abroad”
https://twitter.com/TheBeaverton/status/1683545840944594944
Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland says feds ability to spend ‘not infinite’ as Toronto requests more money
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/freeland-says-feds-ability-to-spend-not-infinite-as-toronto-requests-more-money-1.6492178
Et en français? Peut-être
https://www.lapresse.ca/cinema/critiques/2023-07-24/they-cloned-tyrone/rafraichissant-melange-des-genres.php

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 24 2023 21:07 utc | 89

Tom Collins has pulled me into a very strange and fairly ugly exchange amongst us two after I wrote him an email in reply to his offering the “research paper” to juliana. I made the mistake to try some humour, instad of the appropriate sincerity, but this still does not readily account for what followed. It has now reached the forum, for which I am sorry. Let’s hope it goes away all by itself quickly.

Posted by: persiflo | Jul 24 2023 22:59 utc | 90

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 24 2023 18:27 utc | 87
As I said in the comment, I didn’t come to argue hoax or real. Persuasion is fast becoming irrelevant. People like Bendell and Hagens and Rees are speaking to those who cannot only hear, but can understand, not only see, but perceive to paraphrase the old prophet. It’s sad the some hearts seem to be hardened by facts and some systems analysis, but that’s the way it is. In a way, they have won in the sense of a tragic hero always gets his way.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jul 24 2023 23:20 utc | 91

Ok, a little more from Canada which international spillover.
Historic flooding in Atlantic port city of Halifax. The only rail line connecting Halifax to the rest of Canada is washed out. BNN Bloomberg tells me, “The disruption threatens to constrict the flow of container goods from Halifax to Montreal, Toronto and Chicago only days after service resumed across the country at B.C. ports, and raises alarming questions about infrastructure stability amid growing climate volatility.”
About those BC ports… it’s still in flux, somewhat. From the ilwu500.org website,
LOCAL 500 CONTRACT MEETING
“STOP WORK” MEETING
Tuesday, July 25
10:00 AM
Croatian Cultural Centre
3250 Commercial Drive – Vancouver
There will be NO dayshift July 25 – Except for Coastwise & Wheat.
Members of the Negotiating Committee will be available for questions.
All members are encouraged to attend the meeting.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 25 2023 0:04 utc | 92

“Creaky, leaky and sneaky” is one description I have seen being applied to the “Cloud” service providers
Posted by: West of England Andy | Jul 24 2023 18:23 utc | 86

The Three Kludges?

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 25 2023 2:10 utc | 93

The Register has a posting up with the title
Just declassified: US senator caught up in Section 702 FBI surveillance dragnet
the link
https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/22/us_senator_caught_in_section_702/?td=rt-3a
the quote

Earlier this week, Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) said he plans to introduce surveillance reform legislation “in the coming weeks,” and the court documents released today will likely add momentum to the calls for reform.
A US senator, state senator, and judge walk into Section 702
In the case of the senator and state senator, an FBI worker ran a surveillance database search on them that was deemed a breach of policy by the Dept of Justice’s National Security Division (NSD).
“In June 2022, an analyst conducted four queries of Section 702 information using the last names of a US Senator and a state senator,” according to the heavily redacted FISC opinion issued in April [PDF]. “The analyst had information that a specific foreign intelligence service was targeting those legislators, but NSD determined that the querying standard was not satisfied.”
Additionally, in October 2022, an FBI specialist broke the rules by running “a query using the Social Security number of a state judge who ‘had complained to FBI about alleged civil rights violation perpetrated by a municipal chief of police.'”
The opinion also noted another Section 702 violation concerning a search of one of the January 6 rioters who stormed the Capitol building.

Remember, this is big government owned by global private finance and the stakes are at the limit

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 25 2023 5:47 utc | 94

bevin | Jul 24 2023 16:57 utc | 82
…there is such a widespread and deeprooted suspicion of the evident and an increasing belief that humanity is the sport, not of a ruling class pursuing its own obvious interests, but of secret powers bent on unstated but malevolent objectives…
And you find these two scenarios mutually exclusive, do you, bevin? Your contortions to slop all servings onto your socialist boilerplate are really tiresome. And your disrespect for the host of experts who’ve been raising our awareness regarding malevolent practices these last three years is also quite remarkable.
But then, reading your comments over the years has been like driving down a rutted dirt road. You know, get the wheels in a rut and the car kinda self-drives, albeit with a jerky motion.

Posted by: john | Jul 25 2023 10:13 utc | 95

6.2% GDP growth in Q2 2023 in the PRC? No way! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EIerUJVMYYY
Fiddling with stats is becoming an international sport but the CCP PR bureau forgot some “double Entry” like truths…

Posted by: Antonym | Jul 25 2023 10:31 utc | 96

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2023 5:34 utc | 49
Go ahead and block, Tom. You must have missed my earlier response – would have been close to when you posted. I was not intending to pursue, did advise reading the first chapter of Bulgakov’s “The Master and Margarita” where the subject is discussed, (specifically the Pevear translation, as he gives footnotes.) I am very, very Russian Orthodox, even though not Russian myself. Must be a connection between Russia and the Antipodes,(I’m a native) — no doubt through the Orthodox church at the South Pole.
😉

Posted by: juliania | Jul 25 2023 11:22 utc | 97

I can hardly wait for Miles W Mathis to deconstruct this news item
“The personal chef of former president Barack Obama was found dead in a “paddleboarding accident” near the family’s $12 million mansion on Martha’s Vineyard” Nothing unusual about a 45 year old chef found dead in a “paddleboarding accident”.

Posted by: qparker | Jul 25 2023 11:43 utc | 98

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 24 2023 4:40 utc | 46
Thank you for your link to your substack article -Putin’s letter to the African nations. It is quite staggering that as he mentions only less than 3% of the grain in the original deal went to low and middle income nations.
Also on your exchange with Grieved, I find we have been influenced by the same literary and film experiences — it is sobering today that, from my perspective the latter has rather degenerated for younger generations, but that is my older age speaking. I would encourage everyone, go back to the classics if something modern excites your mind – it’s there you will find the still-living sources, and as Bulgakov himself states in the novel that was only published years after his death “Manuscripts don’t burn”.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 25 2023 11:50 utc | 99

Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 24 2023 8:17 utc | 56
Best wishes on job hunt, lex — love your tshirt!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 25 2023 12:02 utc | 100