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July 21, 2023
Something Amiss

There is a war happening in Europe that is, interestingly, no longer mentioned on the first two screens of the front pages of the Washington Post and the New York Times.


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The failure of the Ukrainian counter-offensive and its lack of any viable way to win the conflict seems to be sinking in.

Who wants to write or read about the huge strategic mistake the Biden administration committed when it blackmailed Ukraine as well as its other vassals, especially when the beltway gang is strongly in favor of another Biden presidency. The alternative, another round of artificially Trump-ed up chaos, seems unbearable to them.

This despite further evidence that Biden's policies and influence were always for sale, especially to foreign bidders.

That is, by the way, another scandal that is not allowed to be on the front pages the Washington 'elite' is filling for the commons' consumption.

Comments

Posted by: bevin | Jul 21 2023 23:02 utc | 185
“The Russian Central Bank’s increase in interest rate to 8.5% seems to me absolutely indicative of classic neo-liberal economics”
Of course, just read Elvira Nabiullina history it is all there for everybody to see. She serves the Russian banks and bondholders. But she’s hardly touched it this time compared to 2022. So nothing to get worried about just yet.
China and Japan – Take a look what they did with interest rates and then look at their inflation rates. Compare that with Argentina and Turkey who keep hiking and the inflation rate quickly tracks the hikes.
That is what the West was relying on from the start. That Russia would keep hiking to fight inflation and act like Argentina and Turkey. They did in 2022 they hiked from 10% to 20%. I told everyone who read the Saker blog that was a huge mistake as the inflation rate would quickly follow it. It did the inflation rate doubled.
Then she slashed the interest rate steadily from the 20% down to 8% and the inflation rate quickly followed lower.She should know all this by now, just from that experience alone. But in fiscal conservative countries the banks and bondholders ask and they receive.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 22 2023 1:22 utc | 201

Can’t believe i was so dumb to think the Dems & liberals were the “good” guys.
Only a little wiser now. Now such thing as good or bad guys, just folks who wanna stay in power & have figured out how to fool people in increasingly sophisticated ways.
Guess the Unabomber was right.

Posted by: Handsome Man | Jul 22 2023 1:27 utc | 202

Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 1:07 utc | 205–
Pepe’s very aware of the damage the Western Parasites are doing to their own people. Kissinger’s connected to one faction of the Donors. Pepe gave away the substance–China will continue to be the Empire’s enemy–it’s safer. Lots of sophisticated crap ongoing to tar Putin; the tune’s been the same since its arrival here almost two years ago, and other iterations before then.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2023 1:27 utc | 203

Russia has obviously been very, very cautious about wasting ammunition. Those borders are a long way off and to attack them effectively you would need ship based missiles. I assume that the Russians have done a calculation- more effective to take out a pile of armaments in the east close to short range artillery which is not in short supply.
Posted by: watcher | Jul 21 2023 23:23 utc | 191

????
Any of the missiles that hit Lvov, Zhytomyr, Khmelnistskiy, Rovno, Lutsk, etc., and there have been many, can easily hit the border too.
How many transformers were hit in Lvov with Kh-101s? Largely pointlessly as those were quickly repaired while the 750-kV ones were not touched.
The range of Kh-101 is 3000 km. From Astrakhan (where the Tu-95s launch these from) that takes you to Copenhagen/Frankfurt/Zurich/Milan/Rome.
Kalibr range is similar too.

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 22 2023 1:30 utc | 204

Putin isn’t really calling the shots, he is balancing between various interest groups. And if he has to balance and not take sides, that presumably means even he can be disposed of at any time. The way the Prigozhin mutiny was rapidly unfolding gives you an idea that this isn’t such a remote possibility as it might seem. It’s either that or he is a traitor himself. And we don’t know enough to tell which one it is. But we do know enough to be near certain that the Kremlin as a whole isn’t fighting this existential war in a correspondingly existential way.
Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 22 2023 1:21 utc | 208

— and yet, if I had a nickel for each time you demanded that Putin be publicly executed…

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 22 2023 1:36 utc | 205

Lol which would imply massive coordination between the various mainstream media companies.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2023 17:14 utc | 75

Based on my admittedly limited recent exposure to the corporate media in the US (being as I’m not a fan of indigestion), I get the impression that despite these media being ostensibly profit-driven, the content (read that as “spin”) that they emphasize the most, seems remarkably similar. I see little attempt to differentiate themselves from supposed competitors. Even attempting to conduct themselves according to basic journalistic principles would be a differentiator.
They seem to act is if they’re receiving common marching orders from the CIA or some other government/gov’t-controlled entity, even if their decisions are made independently.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 22 2023 1:39 utc | 206

@Don Firineach 203
thx
Roberts´ arguments are known but I am thankful Baldwin offered this occasion to put them out once more.
Its almost a bit like religion.
What do you believe is the right choice of political course?
On the one hand people argue rightly so, in fact Roberts did so himself once, that Putin prevented worse, possibly.
Or: Had there been breaking points in the West via diplomacy?
Putting pressure on via bringing in China and other majors?
But then on what level of intern. law? On what legal framework foundation?
Even German frm. diplomat Hans von Sponeck, who was at the UN since late 1960s said that UN is a failure. The power of the West makes any diplomacy not in Westen interest almost impossible.
But thats what Roberts is eventually calling for.
It is for sure that UN Security Council would have never agreed on anything for the veto of the US and the Brits.
So what Roberts doesn´t take into account, for a war you always need two parties.
If one of those is bound to escalate peace has most likely no chance.
I might add that Roberts admitted in the Mercouris/Diesen interview that in the 90s he was in favour of limited NATO expansion which WAS naive. He realized that later on.
And NOW again the SAME naivité?
After all he IS an old-fashioned historian, not political analyst of today´s era.
How do you navigate this crap without getting Hundreds of Thousands killed?
Because thats one of your jobs as a politician.
Of course the UKR regime could have agreed on peace regardless of the US/UK.
At least by the theory Roberts is sticking to.
Instead Ukies chose the weapon and not the glass of water, to stay in the picture of an absurd comedy with James Belushi in the 1990s.
So they accepted Hundreds of thousands of their own people getting killed.
Eventually its always two for a tango.
The interview would deserve a follow-up with in-depth look at the alternatives.
Because thats where Roberts is way too superficial.

Posted by: AG | Jul 22 2023 1:39 utc | 207

I thought you were just talking about the US, where the rate appears to be 81%. People here have already pointed out that US media greatly undercovers important international stories, like the covid situation in other countries.
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 21 2023 21:20 utc | 158
SARS-Covid(-19) was tested in Ukraine.. So was the mRNA->DNA ‘Spiked Protein’ ‘VacCiNe’.. Covid-19 was a flop from the git-go, but the “Spiked Protein” was derived from HIV-1 and identified in India early in in 2020 along with other rates used in genetic splicing..
All this is patented and in at least one patent, described as a Bio-Weapon..
Now I have the opportunity to watch the unimpeded development of the HIV-1 virus in a friend. It took 5 years to sneak up and kill him and was not evident until after the fourth year,like 4&1/2 years and struck with a surging a slow tsunami of rising tides in a period of 2 months and of that 3 weeks he was in a coma and it kept surging worse and worse about every 4 to 6 days.
Go figure.
This is a big part of Russia’s time table.
As for the Russian interest rates, they have been especially high since 2014 and I suspect they pay for the military expansion we now see.

Posted by: T S | Jul 22 2023 1:42 utc | 208

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 22 2023 1:21 utc | 208
Very interesting, thank you. Opacity is both the old and new normal it seems. And so it shall always be.
To me it seems like things are both real and unreal just like the US is both a real republic and not really one at all. With RF, when I watched that early meeting of VP with the oligarchs it seemed to me that he was both somewhat in charge – and as such representing the interests of the people and the State – and also reporting to quasi-peers if not masters. It is a little strange that it was televised and it makes me wonder if this wasn’t done to make him look like he is more in charge over them than he is. This provides them cover. I imagine that just as with covid and the SMO, the rich on all sides are getting richer. That said, that they wanted this to be seen means that they value staying on the right side of most of the people. Whether the State is totally real or not, there are always real people and their interests in the mix which need to be managed. That never changes. And even if Putin is more compromised than his fans believe, he probably does love his country and countrymen and is working to improve their lives and destiny. So most likely he is juggling, which is nearly always what leaders do – arbitrating between different core interests. If this is more or less correct, then things maybe aren’t all that bad as some fear. A typical mess, in other words.
Meanwhile, one theory on the Odessa raids is it’s a simple oligarch-friendly market nudge – with Ukraine wheat off the market (it wasn’t very high a percentage of late but anyway) and now the Odessa facilities messed up, Russian wheat can command higher prices. Whether true or not (probably not given wheat is half its early 2022 level and didn’t move much on the news), there are probably many more decisions made along those types of lines than the military tactical which most fixate on. As with all conflicts, I bet there are many interests making money on both sides. That Russia continues to supply Ukraine with gas and the West with oil through all this perhaps is all we need to know but of course one can justify anything – and maybe he really IS a Saint after all, eh?!.
Through all these geopolitical tectonics it doesn’t seem like the oligarch class in any of the main polities is suffering any setbacks. Certainly the most successful capitalist and market economy in the world, China, is doing extremely well through all this. One simple reason Putin may be holding back so much is that he really doesn’t want too many of his boys dying for what, ultimately, is more a performance than a truly substantive, existential struggle as of course it is widely portrayed.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 1:47 utc | 209

Within the last week they hit the train with Leopard and Bradley’s in Kharkov rail junction. So why didn’t they hit the same train in Lvov? The answer is obvious.
Posted by: unimperator | Jul 21 2023 17:50 utc | 84
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As far as Russia not yet hitting “decision centers”, completely shutting down Ukraine’s access to the Black Sea seems an adequate substitute…One axiom of chess, played by all Russian leaders, is “never rush.”
Posted by: pyrrhus | Jul 21 2023 18:26 utc | 96
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Now, this war will only end on Russia’s terms. Russia is in full control.
Posted by: Golddigger | Jul 21 2023 18:38 utc | 104
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Perhaps this ‘failure’ in interdiction is really an indicator of growing Russian confidence in the capabilities of their armed forces to deal with all eventualities, especially Western support, something that perhaps was lacking previously?
Posted by: Milites | Jul 21 2023 20:03 utc | 133
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So many threads, I’ll stick with this one.
Destroying the functioning of every single seaport of Ukraine is a big deal. They can no longer accept diesel being shipped by the US, the fuel docks are gone. Destroying the cranes and the docks removes container shipping of everything, weapons included. Same for bulk cargo docks.
Logistics are what sustains war. Look at the 4,500 ships involved in D-Day. Destroying all seaborn transport is hitting a ‘decision center’ big time, IMHO. You make propaganda out of hitting the bridge across the Kerch strait again, go ahead, make another smart ‘decision’ you UK bastards.
A Kharkiv railway junction is another perfect target. Since railways are quickly repairable it will be great for rinse and repeat.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 22 2023 1:49 utc | 210

@ David Levin | Jul 22 2023 1:39 utc | 214
exactly right david.. thanks for articulating that.. you can read about it in this short article – the propaganda multiplier.. the graph near the top of the article describes it all very well..
https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2023 1:49 utc | 211

The demonization of Eritrea by The West:
Eritrea’s problems are treated exceptionally to hide the root of why Western nations have weaved a web of sanctions around her: that Eritrea stands up to the imperial consensus. In 2009, the US orchestrated devastating UN sanctions on Eritrea for refusing to accede to the dismemberment of Somalia. At a 2023 UN Human Rights Council meeting, Eritrea stuck up for Nicaragua as the US and others sought to foist sanctions on the Central American nation.8
Further, recently, Eritrea voted to reaffirm “the inalienable, permanent & unqualified right of the Palestinian people to self-determination.”9 Most recently, Eritrea has also opposed every UN resolution designed to further the NATO war in Ukraine.10

https://breakthroughnews.org/eritrea-the-story-you-dont-hear/

Posted by: Menz | Jul 22 2023 1:51 utc | 212

Posted by: Nate | Jul 22 2023 0:34 utc | 200
updated for those that don’t like signing on to a message / video server and want east downloadable content using apps like Videodownloader
Another big group of Ukrainian soldiers surrendered:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iizz38KmcxOE/
Ukrainian deserters carrying White flags of surrender SHOT by their fellow Ukrainian soldiers!!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uOD6Gkw7wFZI/
and everything Russia without signing in.
https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=russia&kind=video&sort=new
have a gore-fest (I’d rather eat a steak)

Posted by: T S | Jul 22 2023 1:56 utc | 213

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 22 2023 1:21 utc | 208
PS Forgot to thank you for your reply. Very interesting what you said about learning from the fringe/satellites versus the core.
It has a ‘hidden hand’ feeling, which is exactly the same as the West. Makes me wonder if it isn’t actually the same hand…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 1:56 utc | 214

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2023 1:52 utc |
A big fuck you back to you, fake James!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 22 2023 2:03 utc | 215

To me it seems like things are both real and unreal just like the US is both a real republic and not really one at all. With RF, when I watched that early meeting of VP with the oligarchs it seemed to me that he was both somewhat in charge – and as such representing the interests of the people and the State – and also reporting to quasi-peers if not masters. It is a little strange that it was televised and it makes me wonder if this wasn’t done to make him look like he is more in charge over them than he is. This provides them cover. I imagine that just as with covid and the SMO, the rich on all sides are getting richer. That said, that they wanted this to be seen means that they value staying on the right side of most of the people. Whether the State is totally real or not, there are always real people and their interests in the mix which need to be managed. That never changes. And even if Putin is more compromised than his fans believe, he probably does love his country and countrymen and is working to improve their lives and destiny. So most likely he is juggling, which is nearly always what leaders do – arbitrating between different core interests. If this is more or less correct, then things maybe aren’t all that bad as some fear. A typical mess, in other words.

That was a classic Tsar-and-boyars scene. Back in the days the Tsar was nominally an absolute monarch, but in reality he had to consult the boyars for really serious decisions, because even though he supposedly had the power to dispose of them all, if he were to try doing that, he would have been the one taken out. Of course that is not unique to Russia at all — that is how it has been in most places and times. Even the Egyptian pharoahs, divine as they supposedly were, probably had to do the same balancing act.
It is why Stalin admired Ivan the Terrible so much but also criticized him for not having killed more boyars.
Another classic Russian trope is the good Tsar and the bad boyars (European-styled nobility later on). There is some truth in it — the Tsars would often try to balance against the nobility by allying with the commoners, and the Tsars would also often try to push policies that were good for the country but went against the interests of the nobility (because the Tsar had to think about the state as a whole while most of the nobility was just thinking about how to maximize their wealth and status in the internal competition with each other). The problem is that in the end the commoners were always very weak so they were never a strong power block and thus rarely got much out of the whole thing and it was mostly just for show.
A lot of what Putin does follows the same pattern. It is why it is such a taboo to directly criticize him — he has become this saintly figure that works very well as the cover behind which the modern nobility can do their shady business at the expense of everyone else. Whether he himself approves of that or not is largely irrelevant.

Meanwhile, one theory on the Odessa raids is it’s a simple oligarch-friendly market nudge – with Ukraine wheat off the market (it wasn’t very high a percentage of late but anyway) and now the Odessa facilities messed up, Russian wheat can command higher prices. Whether true or not (probably not given wheat is half its early 2022 level and didn’t move much on the news), there are probably many more decisions made along those types of lines than the military tactical which most fixate on. As with all conflicts, I bet there are many interests making money on both sides. That Russia continues to supply Ukraine with gas and the West with oil through all this perhaps is all we need to know but of course one can justify anything – and maybe he really IS a Saint after all, eh?!.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 1:47 utc | 217

Quite possible. Guess who the agricultural minister is (and thus the guy in charge of all the corruption that goes along in that subsystem of the economy)? Patrushev’s son. Is that a conflict of interest or not? Lots of people think that the grain deal lasting this long to begin with had something to do with that fact. And similarly, what is happening now might be related to it too again for nefarious reasons — they didn’t get what they wanted from the deal, but what they wanted really had very little to do with the war.

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 22 2023 2:05 utc | 216

@ AG | Jul 22 2023 1:39 utc | 215
Roberts is a historian of Soviet times -especially Stalinism ….
He has qualified somewhat here – but I agree I have yet to be convinced that RF had any other option. Had Istanbul been allowed to work then a success – BUT then the US intervened and they got what they wanted – conflict between Ukraine/NATO and RF – and as Roberts notes – not enough men and tackle and underestimation of Ukrainian/NATO fighters … now it is fight to the end of Ukraine and US/NATO makes it as costly as possible …. for RF.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 22 2023 2:16 utc | 217

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 22 2023 1:21 utc | 208
Cut with the concern crap Shadow. You have absolutely no idea about internal Russian politics anymore than I do. Prove you are a fluent Russian speaker and you might get a few brownie points, but even then prove you are speaking to a diverse range of people and not just members of the elite emigre set.
Then there is this. Said with pomposity to make it look important.
“Putin isn’t really calling the shots, he is balancing between various interest groups.”
Well, oh well wowsers!!!! Putin is balancing between various interest groups. Well of bloody course. That is what actual leaders do. There are ALWAYS many interest groups and every competent leader must balance these. Moronic losers fail to do this which is usually why military type dictators fail in the end. They are too one sided and collapse. Similar with often so called “democratic” leaders. Generally listen too much to only one side of an issue.
So where are we at? There are many interest groups as in EVERY society. Why carry on about the bleeding obvious. The following is not based on any special knowledge except what is true in every single nation. Putin seems especially good at balancing these groups but it must be very hard.
Of bloody course there are the wealthy oligarchs and elites. Key interest group but I would assume their power and influence is rapidly decreasing without the access and profit from foreign lands. Important to keep sweet because the economy needs to be stable and also probably a useful source of information, however with every day of the SMO their role is lessening.
Then there is the military and various subfactions of it. They always want more money, troops and equipment. There will also be a good share of disgruntled officers who have been passed over for promotion, sometimes because they are incompetent and sometimes for personality reasons and just sometimes because there is corruption of treachery. Again nothing special here. Could say that about every army, every police force, every government department in every country and indeed about every medium to large corporation. so there are groups of angry ex military types. Well of bloody course there are. There will be the same in USA, UK, Canada, France etc. What is special? What I can say is that if any ex army guy carried on like some of the Russian guys do in Australia they would have found themselves before a court with an order to shut up, long before now. In the USA and the UK, they probably would have been suicided.
Unions and workers are probably still significant in Russia. Not sure. Not so important now in the west- lost their relevance.
Manufacturers ie the guys who make stuff – pretty bloody essential to keep them sweet. The nation needs them. trhjey will have what is known as bargaining power.
The above with knobs on for the agricultural sector. Essential so they MUST be listed to and accommodated. Jeepers. Not bloody rocket science Shadow. Why turn competence into a fault. Imbecilic.
I could go on and on. Bankers, the arts community (PR role), importers and exporters, pensioner groups, teachers to name just a few.
Since I do not think you are stupid I regard you as a clever troll.

Posted by: watcher | Jul 22 2023 2:17 utc | 218

Speaking of the It’s All Kiev’s Fault Fall Festival —
Of course they blew up NSII:
The Houseboat Theory is looking mighty good right about now:
“Sullivan did not answer the journalist directly. “Well, as you know, there is an ongoing investigation in multiple countries in Europe. And the last thing that I’m going to do to our allies in Europe is front running investigation that they are conducting. We’ll let that play out.”
The loser pays. The Kiev Regime will have scapegoating gear to wear, mostly US sins of many colors.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jul 22 2023 2:30 utc | 219

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2023 2:24 utc | 228
Hey Jimmykins. Your mum is calling. Go clean your room and then take a shower. You got all sweaty for some reason. Have you a good brand of Acne cream

Posted by: watcher | Jul 22 2023 2:38 utc | 220

Milites 133
Your point about Russia studying Ukrainian transport logistics being more valuable to them than zapping Western weaponry entering Ukraine is amazingly subtle. Ukraine for its part could deliberately frustrate Russian intelligence gathering by giving
disinformation, transporting empty wagons to irrelevant destinations.
I had a customer who studied the unseen world of Jinns. He decided that my white man’s magic, the rules of my electrical trade by which i earn my living, were designed purely to
steal from his pocket. So he decided
to zap me with one of his best Qur’anic verses against jinns and magic.
He told me these verses would literally pop any jinns into smithereens if
they were present. Casting spells on enemies and casting out spells is big business in South Asian communities, just as psychotherapy is big business here. So he recited the verses expecting me to have a seizure, but his son had a seizure instead.
There is something exquisitely flawed in Nato’s idea of supplying wunderwaffen to Ukraine, because it ignores the reality that this is a noble and ancient Great Game played over millenia between the tribes of Europe and Russia. Like families, they have lived alongside eachother. Each side knows the weak points of the other.
South Asians know our Western weak points, and we know theirs. The largest known plants are symbiotic, interconnected flora like bluebell woods. This SMO is a symbiotic, interconnected war.

Posted by: Giyane | Jul 22 2023 2:45 utc | 221

Posted by: watcher | Jul 22 2023 2:17 utc | 227
Cut with the concern crap Shadow.
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I don’t get this concern about concern. Isn’t it generally better for us to question, even be cynical, than just take things at face value? I personally appreciate shadowbanned’s posts here because there is a general tendency here to treat Putin as an omniscient 5D-Chessmaster Saint (though a small minority regard him as a demon) whereas surely the truth is far more nuanced. We get very little reportage from within Russia and most likely most people inside Russia don’t really know what’s going on either. That seems par for the course in all countries, frankly.
There are various hidden hands in the mix many of which are more doubt highly influential even though we don’t get to see who they are and what they want exactly. But trying to read what little we can see is not so much ‘concern’ as an attempt at learning more detail, or scrutiny.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 2:51 utc | 222

“Russian forces drop leaflets on Ukrainian positions calling for surrender”
Posted by: Trubind1 | Jul 22 2023 1:18 utc | 207
Very interesting, thank you for the heads-up.
And it reminds me of the classic commentary about television, that I think applies with that.
“The medium is the message”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_medium_is_the_message
By being able to benignly explode a shell, containing messages promoting peace, over Ukrainian soldiers, instead of landing shells on their heads, and offering an opportunity to not get killed, the Russians are saying something about their intentions.
The AFU not being able to stop Russia from doing this, and not having the shells to spare, or an offer of peace to make, to send onto the Russian lines, is the subtext of this message.
This is like when in a film a powerful UFO hovers over a city, and the military proves helpless in sending it away. Whatever message the aliens have, their way of delivering it has already spoken volumes.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jul 22 2023 2:52 utc | 223

more doubt = no doubt.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 2:53 utc | 224

Martyanov belches this today:

“…all those “voenkors” ranging from lowlifes such as Sladkov or Pegov, to “analysts” of Rybar or Podolyaka “caliber” who have been spreading open disinformation for many months”


[Not linking to the source since anyone interested can find the creature’s septic tank for themselves]
These would be the same “lowlifes” who had a closed door session with Putin where they reported on the actual conditions at the front and the problems of frontline soldiers?
When was Martyanov last invited for a session at the Kremlin?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 22 2023 2:57 utc | 225

watcher | Jul 22 2023 2:17 utc | 227–
Unions and workers are probably still significant in Russia. Not sure. Not so important now in the west- lost their relevance.
Trade unions and workers cooperatives remain very important, as do the great many volunteer organizations that seem to involve most everyone. If I took the time to document all of those efforts, I’d have little time for anything else.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2023 3:09 utc | 226

grunzt | Jul 21 2023 21:54 utc | 166
*** He is waiting for NATO or the White House to come to its senses.***
He won’t live that long. None of us here will, either.
They’ve never genuinely changed before, so why — apart from *even more* pretence, lies and conspiring — would anyone sensibly expect them to start now.
NATO and its component “leaders” are what they are — psychopaths, perverts, megalomanic fantasists and kleptocrats loyal only to themelves, the institutions of transnational debt-capitalism and the transnational Oligarchy … and truly, that’s all there is to them. That’s exactly why they, and not others from the globalist political establishment stock of reserves, are in their jobs.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 22 2023 3:17 utc | 227

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2023 3:09 utc | 237
Sorry Karlofi
I was being a bit cynical, but compared with what they once were TUs just are not in the game – at least not in Australia. Some influence in the ALP, but it is largely negative and self serving- rarely dealing with the big issues. Not like it was in 1930-1980.

Posted by: watcher | Jul 22 2023 3:19 utc | 228

Re: Mass deception & the war on Russia
“The Information Warfare Community, originally known as the Information Dominance Corps, was created within the U.S. Navy in 2009 to more effectively and collaboratively lead and manage…. civilian professionals who possess extensive skills in information-intensive fields… It is tasked with developing and delivering dominant information capabilities in support of… national warfighting requirements.”
https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Information_Warfare_Community&oldid=3098783

Posted by: Toby C | Jul 22 2023 3:20 utc | 229

The Covid Pandemic sudden dissapearance.
It literally went from “we all will die u less we vax everyone” on top of front news pages daily to…..
Poof gone. All gone and scrubbed from news media.
One day to the next.
This Ukraine thing seems to be going same way.
Posted by: Comandante | Jul 21 2023 16:06 utc | 44
Conspiracy says covid was about depopulation, personally I see it about control and profit. The media pumped it, useful idiots that have zero medical knowledge joined the fear wagon, profit made, move on. The side effects from these evil vaccines that many ignoramuses also supported are becoming more apparent every day, If you took an mRNA would suggest a protocol to remove it, even for those that didn’t die future side effects are likely.
Ukraine is still winning in the media, although the idea of a draw seems to be gaining traction. Assume the narrative for peace with honor is being set, will the Russians give it to them though? We hear the US and Russia are indeed quietly talking, so perhaps a deal has been cut.

Posted by: Organic | Jul 22 2023 3:37 utc | 230

treat Putin as an omniscient 5D-Chessmaster Saint (though a small minority regard him as a demon) whereas surely the truth is far more nuanced.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 2:51 utc | 232
Certainly Putin is not omniscient and he is far from perfect. But he is a shrewd statesman, no one can deny that. The fact that he has been in power in a country like Russia for as long as he has speaks to that shrewdness.
Saying something bland and boring like shadowbanned did about Putin “not being in control” but rather plays off of different power groups, is, first of all contradictory, and secondly, pedantic.
No one knows fully what’s going on in the Kremlin’s inner circles, perhaps not even Putin. The only thing we can do as observers instead of actors, is look at the result(s) of this SMO, which, so far, is this: Russia has occupied enough Ukrainian territory to prevent its immediate entry into a military alliance that is hostile toward Russian interests.
The outstanding questions are: How much more Ukrainian territory will Russia take? and Will it be sufficient for Russian security and/or to prevent Ukrainian entry into NATO in the near and far future? If the answer to the latter question is yes, then Putin has accomplished his goals with the SMO, and worthy of any accolades we bestow on him.

Posted by: James M. | Jul 22 2023 3:42 utc | 231

When Poland takes Lvov and more, Russia won’t say a contrary thing.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jul 22 2023 3:45 utc | 232

@ James M. | Jul 22 2023 3:42 utc | 242
good post.. thanks..
@ Elmagnostic | Jul 22 2023 3:45 utc | 243
you might want to see/read what putin says about that.. smoothie shared this fyi…
putin warns poland

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2023 3:54 utc | 233

The most underrated comment ive heard this week is Putin on Poland. Its one thing for western media to discuss happening this but as we know RF isnt playing the same propaganda game. Lends weight that there must be credible evidence to get those remarks/warning.

Posted by: hankster | Jul 22 2023 4:06 utc | 234

Don @203
The problem Putin had in not going to war but exploring other diplomatic means is that the US/NATO world would have been immovable in their intent to destroy Russia no matter what accomodation was reached. Just look at their current total persistence & determination beyond any reasonable point where diplomacy has been the obvious solution.
He would have had the war no matter what path he chose.

Posted by: Digital Dinosaur | Jul 22 2023 4:09 utc | 235

67 Usa foreign policy
watch any hollywood movie about a crisis and you see the president sit in a room full of people.They vary as one representative from all the different branches CIA FBI DOD and a myriad of other alphabet agencies . It seems whoever can win on the day or manoeuvre to the front gets to be the policy . And that then can change as its a power based factional thing. Foreign policy is not a negotiated think tank balanced view. its actually a competing inter agency view. without much liasion between, such as in syria where state department aligned rebels ended up fighting CIA funded rebels for a time until they realised and both just joined ISIS proper.

Posted by: hankster | Jul 22 2023 4:14 utc | 236

Narrative shift in full swing:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/21/ukraines-counter-offensive-is-failing-with-no-easy-fixes/
From the article:

“Its dire shortage of armoured vehicles means that Kyiv (sic) is approaching this counter-offensive with immense caution.”

But….but weren’t we being told that it was Russia that was out of armour and that the Ukranazis had captured so many Russian tanks that they had more than ever before?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 22 2023 4:28 utc | 237

250:
We were told that Russia is in ropes and the Ukrainian victory was imminent. Whom can we sue?

Posted by: Catilina | Jul 22 2023 4:33 utc | 238

And another one from Kemp, one of the biggest cheerleader for war thus far.
Ukraine’s counter-offensive is failing, with no easy fixes

Posted by: The Accountant | Jul 22 2023 4:37 utc | 239

Simplicius has another piece out tonight (USA time) and it includes a bit about Wagner in Belarus. It’s starting to look like Mr. I’m Always Right So Shut The Fuck Up and Learn (aka RSH) was dead wrong on that topic. Who knows what else he got wrong. Has anyone been to his substack lately? Has he admitted he was wrong about Wagner and Belarus yet?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 22 2023 4:39 utc | 240

Posted by: Handsome Man | Jul 22 2023 1:27 utc | 210
The first time I read his manifesto I thought to myself “Hmmm…this guy DOES makes some alright points.”
Can’t say I agree with his more extreme views, though.
And then this guy, who flew his plane into an IRS office literally as I had just passed by on my way to work one morning. His manifesto makes a bit of sense in some places as well.
https://www.businessinsider.com/joseph-andrew-stacks-insane-manifesto-2010-2
I’ll see myself out (not that I’m not already on at least one or two watchlists).

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 22 2023 4:44 utc | 241

I would take shadowbanned seriously, but all his criticisms blame Putin for “what if minor event was worse?”. “inconsequential event where Putin was in charge is proof he wasn’t in charge” Putin doesnt care about Russians, the fact he started the SMO is proof”
Its all complete demial of reality, to focus on untealities:. “Putin siezed Crimea flawlessly, but he wanted to negotiate it away”.
“Putin could have invaded in 2014 but didnt is proof he could have”
Shadowbanned’s entire thought process is clouded by hatred of Putin, because he believes some hypothetical magic man would have done better.
“Yes, Putin rescued Russia from the grips of Western exploitation in the 90s, but hypothetical communist ruler would have done it better”
His entire narrative ignores reality, replaces it with what ifs, or hos knowledge of Putin’s “real inentions”.
The latest whopper is “putin cares more about Ukrainian leadership than Russians”
Ignoring Putin initiated the SMO to save Russians, an incredibly dangerous move, that one does not take lightly, not in 2014, not in 2022.
But no, because Putin does not make the moves that in Shadowbanned’s simple world view would make Russia better off, (in which he ignores all complexities and realities, focusing only on the sexy kinetic war aspect, as Putin juggles the thousands of complexities of Running Russia in a hostile world).
So when. I heard “patriots” in Russia were being arrested, I thought “bad move, Putin”
After reading shadowbanned, i saw where those patriots were coming from, and thought, “fuck em.”
Also, I used to read shadowbanned with interest about how the opposition in Russia felt. Now. I know. They are simpletons, offering simple solutions, withimagination of what they would do with his power, without imagining the responsibility and risks.
Fuck em too.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2023 5:01 utc | 242

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2023 5:01 utc | 255
Interesting take. I initially thought shadowbanned was actually a Putin supporter, but maybe you are onto something. He doesn’t say anything one way or the other on Russian laws/policy other than the simplistic takes on the war you mentioned. So I think you may be right, starting to tickle those NAFO|OFAN Fella “concern troll” strings again for me.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 22 2023 5:06 utc | 243

Today, 22. July 2023 is the 12th anniversary of Norway’s 911, i.e. the false flag attacks that took place 22. July 2011 in Oslo (Government house bombing) and Utøya (traditional Labour Party summer camp), killing almost 70 people. Officially, this was all done by a single person, but the photographic evidence and immediate witness reports tell a different story.
Prime Minister at the time was Jens Stoltenberg, current NATO General Secretary. He was always a compromised person, but being really close to this event handed him the job as NATO General Secretary. Everyone can see how he serves his masters.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 22 2023 5:11 utc | 244

The mainstream media’s manic cheerleading had devolved into delusional squealing and has now devolved into fingers in the ear yelling to itself saying, “Na na na naaa! I can’t hear you! Look over there!”
Childish impotence. It bleeds credibility. It knows it is dying.
Good.

Posted by: titmouse | Jul 22 2023 5:12 utc | 245

@bevin
Elvira Nabiullina
is the biggest miscast in the Russian Central Bank, sabotaging sensible economic growth with her interest rate policy.
She has given away hundreds of billions of Russian national assets to the banks of the West, and she has failed to install a Russian stock exchange where every commodity sold abroad must be bought at auction in Russian roubles, which would make the rouble one of the hardest currencies in the world.
The woman is one of the woodworms drilling Putin’s board.
Verstehe einer…

Posted by: Oberbayer | Jul 22 2023 5:13 utc | 246

Well, lots of interesting and insightful perspectives. I don’t even know what’s happening inside the homes of the families on my street, maybe not even what’s going on between my own two ears, so expecting to understand everything about what’s going on in Russia, China or wherever ….. I guess my predilection is to doubt, probe, ask questions having spent so many years steadily coming to the realization that most of what is said in the countries I have been living in is false. But sometimes, perhaps, it’s best to just let it be. I do think there is a tendency to oversimplify and hero worship, but that’s how our minds work, especially with influential figures. Which Putin most certainly is.
My sense is that the concern of many of the ‘patriot’ crowd, which are probably an extremely mixed bunch and of course not organized as such, is that not enough of the power players and sectors in the society are all rooting for the home team or share the same vision. It does often seem like Putin has a deep desire to join with the West and may be beholden to them in some way. But I think most likely is that he has to balance many different conflicting forces and also he may not always make the right call, or may sometimes get boxed in, sometimes even bullied. Who knows. But that there are quite a few different camps in Russia not all happy with each other (hardly surprising) seems clearly the case so that’s the internal terrain Putin and so many others are stuck in. And they probably can’t see it clearly or completely so of course neither can we. Treating him (or anyone) as an omniscient saint, though, isn’t all that accurate or helpful either. It’s done mainly out of animus for the current regimes ruling in the West and since he seems to be against the West he is positively regarded. Fine. But it doesn’t make him perfect either which too many project.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 5:14 utc | 247

I read the “39 questions”, and they were all a bunch of drivel, hyperfocused on the war.
Putin is running more than a war. And the fact Russia could even engage in this war is thanks to Putin.
I remember after the Prigozhin night, Putins next meeting was with some trade association or something, and criticism flew at him, “OMG, there was almost a coup…” (not true, there was nothing), “…and Putin is just carrying on with business as if nothing happened”
1) reality. Nothing did happen
2) reality:. running Russia takes time and effort in many unsexy things, like trade associations, mother’s day and diplomacy with enies. But now that Putin does the secy and exciting thing, a war, now all of the sudden people come out of the woodwork, and want to run the country.. bevause in their little brains, focused on war, they think running the country means running the war.
It’s insolence. It is treason. It is lust for unearned glory. It is narcissistic fantasy.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2023 5:17 utc | 248

Re: Luttwak
He is very deep state, also Mossad. His bio was scrubbed in the early 80‘s. Finally He is a real cynical thug. I spent 3 years studying with him in the late 1970s.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 22 2023 5:17 utc | 249

Shadowbanned’s entire thought process is clouded by hatred of Putin, because he believes some hypothetical magic man would have done better.
Haven’t MoA barflies been through a discussion before of whose side Shadowbanned is on? I vaguely recall that he was considered a Ukraine sympathizer.
Apologies if wrong.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 22 2023 5:20 utc | 250

“I can think of one big news that also suddenly disappeared from front top of main stream media like Ukraine did:
The Covid Pandemic sudden dissappearance.
It literally went from “we all will die u less we vax everyone” on top of front news pages daily to…..
Poof gone. All gone and scrubbed from news media.
One day to the next.”
Yes indeed. We will soon owe a debt of gratitude to Russia, for victories over Neonazis and the COVID tyrants.
Amazing.

Posted by: G wiltek | Jul 22 2023 5:20 utc | 251

Re: surrenders
Now that we are seeing first signs of NATO/Kiev units company size surrendering – the much predicted collapse of the NATO/Kiev military might be at hand.
NATO will need 150.000 sheep dipped troops in-Country PDQ. The War Party wants the Ukrainian Civil War to simmer at least until Spring 2024.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 22 2023 5:24 utc | 252

Haven’t MoA barflies been through a discussion before of whose side Shadowbanned is on? I vaguely recall that he was considered a Ukraine sympathizer.
Apologies if wrong.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 22 2023 5:20 utc | 263
Not me
I read his posts with interest, as a perhaps Russian with real Russian criticisms.
But over time, I saw his absolute hatred of Putin. He has said things like Putin should be flogged to death, Putin failed at handling covid, (wasnt enough of a vax nazi), and on and on.
I think he is a Russian, who thinks Russia could be better. However, he has no real solutions, just platitudes. The devil is in the details, and a critic can always criticize even the details, but can never provide detailed proposals.
Oh, the crtic may *think* their solution is detailed, but that is because the critic doesn’t realize that what they think are details are actually just generalities, because if they actually pondered all the true details, they would have to make solving the problems they seem to know so much about, their profession.. ..and then after ten years of solving implementing one detail, they would realize how complex these things are, and save their criticism s to the field of their profession.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2023 5:40 utc | 253

Now that we are seeing first signs of NATO/Kiev units company size surrendering –
Posted by: Exile | Jul 22 2023 5:24 utc | 265
I missed it. When did this happen?

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2023 5:42 utc | 254

Exactly B, looking for what is NOT reported is almost as important as seeing what it their part line.

Posted by: Antonym | Jul 22 2023 5:43 utc | 255

America LOSING to the Taliban disappeared from the MSM in… what? Two weeks? Literally memory holed.
In a year, the average CNN viewer will be, “Ukraine? What’s that?”

Posted by: Sam (in Tiraspol) | Jul 22 2023 5:45 utc | 256

I’m sure I’m not the only human bored with having to go through all the minutiae of how the west abused the grain deal to profit from cheap grain for europe with very little actually going to the humans on this planet most in need of it.
With that in mind I came across a post in Slavyangrad where Dmitry Polyansky who works as deputy to the RF representative on the UN Security Council told UNSC what conditions Russia required before the grain deal could re-commence. It should be noted that these are the conditions first agreed to when the deal was made but as per usual ‘the west’ aka amerika offered only delays & deceits rather than fulfilling their side of the deal.
Anyway here is the post in full:

“UN, July 21st – RIA Novosti. Moscow will return to the grain deal if seven conditions are met, Dmitry Polyansky, Russia’s first deputy permanent representative to the organization, said at a meeting of the UN Security Council.
“The first: this is a real, not a speculative, withdrawal from the sanctions of the supply of Russian grain and fertilizers to world markets. Secondly, all obstacles for Russian banks and financial institutions that serve the supply of food and fertilizers should be removed,” he said. According to Polyansky, we are talking, among other things, about the immediate connection of these organizations to the SWIFT international banking settlement system. He stressed that Moscow would not be satisfied with any new promises and ideas on this issue. In addition, as the deputy Permanent Representative noted, it is necessary to resume supplies to Russia of spare parts and components for agricultural machinery and the fertilizer industry. He added that the cost of these parts for domestic manufacturers has increased by 40 percent. At the same time, the growth of costs in financial transactions amounted to about ten percent, and total losses reached $ 1.6 billion, the diplomat said.
The fourth condition is the solution of all issues with the freight ships and insurance of Russian food exports, as well as ensuring the entire logistics of these supplies.
“The increase in the cost of freight of sea vessels for cargo transportation, the cost of international financial settlements and other transactions has led to a loss of profitability of deliveries by half,” Polyansky said. In addition, according to the diplomat, it is necessary to ensure unhindered conditions for expanding the supply of Russian fertilizers and raw materials for their production. We are talking, among other things, about the resumption of the work of the Tolyatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline. Polyansky called the unblocking of Russian assets related to the agricultural sector the sixth condition.
“Finally, the seventh is the restoration of the original humanitarian character of the grain deal.” It should work in the interests of countries in need, and not make rich countries richer,” he said.
The diplomat stressed that as soon as all these conditions are fulfilled, Moscow will immediately return to the grain deal. Nevertheless, now the representatives of Russia see and hear only demagoguery and hypocrisy, he summed up.
The Black Sea Initiative, signed last year by representatives of Russia, Turkey, Ukraine and the UN, ceased to operate on July 18th. Its conditions assumed the export of Ukrainian grain, food and fertilizers from three Black Sea ports, including Odessa. It was an integral part of the package agreement. The second part is the Russia-UN memorandum, designed for three years. As Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday, without fulfilling the points of the memorandum, “the continuation of the grain deal in the form in which it existed has lost all meaning.” According to him, Moscow will consider the possibility of returning to the implementation of the agreement if all the principles of its participation in it are taken into account and implemented without exception.”

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jul 22 2023 5:56 utc | 257

American cluster munition depot got hit in Chudnov, Zhitomir.
https://twitter.com/JS1ZL/status/1682534939063975936

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 22 2023 5:57 utc | 258

@G wiltek | Jul 22 2023 5:20 utc | 264

The Covid Pandemic sudden dissappearance.

I explained in the comments of this blog in April 2020 and later that I understood from the first few minutes in March 2020 that the whole thing was bogus, politically motivated non-scientific criminal nonsense. The company I worked for was locked down for months with an explanation directly related to a colleague of mine that I personally worked with the days before. Nobody checked on me, all I got was a vague phone call from a nurse. It was all bogus.
Nevertheless, I was instructed (by anonymous SMS messages from local authorites) to take ‘vaccines’, the place and times had been allocated. I replied ‘go to hell’.
For 3 years, multiple signs remained on the roads were I live, all pointing to a ‘Covid 19 vaccination’ site. It was impossible to miss. I mean, the distances between those signs were literally short stone throws. It served as reminders of the totalitarian society we live in.
For the first time in 4 years I took a holiday abroad this year (Thailand). No longer any requirement of ‘vaccination’ for travel, masks are history in this country because nobody really believed in it. All you see is the stupid “keep distance” signs that everybody ignore. The flight was also mask-free, except for the crew who obviously had their orders. In Bangkok, mask use was maybe 60-70%, again big companies required employees to use them. Everybody treated everybody else with respect for their choice, it was refreshing to see.
The main Wat Phra Keo temple in Bangkok had a sign requiring everybody to use masks, the sign was ignored by everybody, after all it was 42C there. In the eastern town of Ubon Ratchathani, a restaurant had a sign outside saying “70% of our employees have been successfully vaccinated against covid 19”, I still wonder the fate of the supposedly unsuccessful 30%. Further south in the country (Koh Samui), mask use was almost gone, even by employees in hotels and restaurants.
When I returned home, the signs on the road pointing to the ‘Covid 19 vaccination’ site that had been there for 3 years had disappeared. Nobody talks about it, it never happened. It disappeared.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 22 2023 6:02 utc | 259

But it doesn’t make him perfect either which too many project.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 5:14 utc | 260
Putin may not be perfect, (he isnt in my worldview, as I am the only one with all the right opinions), but he certainly knows better, and has done better for Russia than anybody else I am aware of.
I’ve watched quite a few of his town halls. He knows a ton about Russia, both historically and contemporary. I remember one question was from a dairy farmer, and Putin just started rattling off numbers off the top of his head about the dairy industries in Russia.
I also have seen quite a few questions about corruptions he was unaware of. In one town hall, a bunch of employees from a company with contracts with Russias space industry had not been paid for months, and Putin was surprised, said he’d look into it.
What i found most interesting, was how child like so many Russians were. They would ask him to do things like he was santa claus, things he had absolutely no jurisdiction over.
But most of all, he impressed me with his knowledge of Russia.
So he may not be perfect, but he is the best man for the job I am aware of. He strengthened Russia enough in 25 years from being a drunken joke and an impoverished mess, to being a serious threat again.
And while I am at it, somebody asked if all major American cities really are dilapidated like footage they saw of Philadelphia and DC.
Yes, dome are even worse. I have mentioned an Uzbek I knew, (I lived in one of the most affluent cities in the USA), he was here doing software work. Hated Putin, watched a Russian Youtube where the guy would document all the poverty in Russia, and claimed Russia would be so much better with a different leader.
I told him, because of where we were, (Microsoft), he was not seeing, America is just as destitute… ..and it has always had abject poverty, that the world does not see because Hollywood makes it look like everybody is rich.
America also has a youtuber that goes around, showing impoverished America. It’s pretty bad here, and definitely getting worse.
And them there was my Chinese neighbor, (same city), who thought black people were rich. When I told him they were one of the poorest demographics, he did not believe me! He kept saying, “yeah, Im not so sure about that”
Because, to him, black people were sports stars and famous entertainers. All he knew was the Hollywood presentation.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2023 6:07 utc | 260

Oops, did not finish 273…
So America has the #1 immigration inflow…
Who is #2
Russia.
What does that say about its performance and economy compared to neighbors? Compared to the other hundreds of nations?

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2023 6:23 utc | 261

“Opening the grain corridor is an absolute priority,” Selenskyj announced after a phone call with Erdogan on Friday evening. “Together we must prevent a global food crisis.”
Finally, someone who, is doing something about world hunger!
And the good Sultan is available for EVERY CRISIS….
In Germany we like to make jokes and say: Bread for the world – But the sausage stays here!

Posted by: shoplifter | Jul 22 2023 6:48 utc | 262

I read a whole book on Strelkov and thought from the start that he was crazy. Am I wrong?

Posted by: Inki | Jul 22 2023 6:59 utc | 263

A video of the recent Geran strike in Zhytomyr has apparently emerged. Looks like cluster munitions may have been in the mix.
VIDEO https://t.me/Slavyangrad/56059

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jul 22 2023 7:00 utc | 264

There was a vid on a telegram site of Ukrainian soldiers calling on a special channel to surrender. Both sides had a little difficulty knowing where the surrendering group were. I presumed it was real. It was very interesting. I like it when soldiers surrender it means they don’t get killed.

Posted by: Inki | Jul 22 2023 7:14 utc | 265

250 – Reality has a way of intruding…

Posted by: Waldorf | Jul 22 2023 7:17 utc | 266

There is indeed something amiss
Both Shaddowbanned and Scorpion speak of treason inside Russia but both seem to miss the obvious. The USSR was in a weak position and Russia after the breakup still was. And still are. They have to be pragmatic. As long as that is the case there is a role for the liberals but while that role has been tweaked downwards it hasnt gone away completely.
The USSR was beaten technologically but also in terms of geopolitical poker. Fortunately the US acted with psychological insight and/or were forced by economical realities on the shorter time perspective after leaving the gold backed dollar and before establishing the more vulnerable petrodollar.
(The rest of the west put up resistance with a challenging petrocurrency but backed off after threats from the anglosaxons and that whole drama has been thrown down the memory hole)
The US/USSR Trade and Economical Council and the US space hoax (where the USSR cooperated) played important roles but usually go unmentioned in connection with the USSR’s and Russia’s internal power struggle.
There are too many important yet unmentioned facts in our debate

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 22 2023 7:28 utc | 267

Poland is buying 90 Ah-64 Apache helicopters from US. It would be interesting to see total ground strength of Poland (the announced / pledged one).
Poland’s economy isn’t large enough to sustain the kind of army they are planning, but it is a use-it-or-lose it proposition within the next years.

Posted by: unimperator | Jul 22 2023 8:04 utc | 268

Posted by: Blissex | Jul 21 2023 19:20 utc | 117

Perhaps they did have the intended impact, just not the declared one. Anyhow it is too soon to evaluate the impact, I guess that the USA plan is to pile a number of elements, none of which would be enough by itself, to eventually, over 10-20 years, trigger regime change in Moscow.

This is the real danger.This is the way the USSR was dismantled.
If Putin learned anything this is what he would be guarding against.
This is why reorientation to the east and south is essential and total decoupling from the dollar system and Europe is what the Russians are racing to achieve.
As long as Russia is dependent on the Western financial system it’s fate will be inevitable: A repeat of the collapse of the USSR, giving the Anglo-Zionist Empire another nibble at the Russian Federation.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jul 22 2023 8:04 utc | 269

I read a whole book on Strelkov and thought from the start that he was crazy. Am I wrong?
Posted by: Inki | Jul 22 2023 6:59 utc | 276
No you are not, and I believe he has grown in bitter delusion as more and more have ignored his absurd ranting.

Posted by: Ajax | Jul 22 2023 8:09 utc | 270

These would be the same “lowlifes” who had a closed door session with Putin where they reported on the actual conditions at the front and the problems of frontline soldiers?
When was Martyanov last invited for a session at the Kremlin?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 22 2023 2:57 utc | 235
Martyanov living in the US, it is highly unlikely he would ever be invited there. His knowledge of people in a serious analytical and/or responsibility position in Russia, along with his quite clairvoyant breakdown of both the decline of the West and the rise of Russia, however, place him at a level none of these bloggers will ever reach in a million years – these people are pretty much all attention wh*res, nothing more. As for the meeting for Putin, that was a PR stunt, and a clever one on the Kremlin if you ask me.

Posted by: Ajax | Jul 22 2023 8:13 utc | 271

Marvin = paid Troll

Posted by: Áobh O’Sheachnasaigh | Jul 22 2023 8:27 utc | 272

Something else amiss: Oberst Steiner had pointed out in the past the many different layers of warfare in the Ukraine. Most reporting,both mainstream and telegram, focusses on counting casualties and showing videos of exploding tanks. Not what’s happening BEFORE the explosions. The intelligence being amassed, analysed and used at ever increasing speeds. The drones, guided bombs and missiles that, in Ukraine, are a few light years ahead of what NATO has in their arsenals. (Which makes you wonder why NATO countries are still spending hundreds of billions a year on buying 60-ton-monstermachines that can do nothing but shoot little explosive rounds a few kilometers ahead.)
Long introduction to an interview with former Google-CEO and now Pentagon advisor Eric Schmidt on drones in Ukraine.
He focusses 100% on Ukraine, ignoring that Russia (and probably China) are operating the innovation programs, with much more resources and a much larger army of engineers than Ukraine can amass.
He also gives a pretty drastic description of the reality of trench warfare.
And, in a sideline, explains why no NATO-nation – with their MoD procedures and democratic discussions – has any chance to compete with nations at war developing new weapons technology ar ridiculous speed because their survival depends on it.

Posted by: Marvin | Jul 22 2023 8:34 utc | 273

This war will go on until Selenskyj runs out of idiots:

An infantryman fighting near the Russian-occupied Donetsk, the central hub city of the Donbas region, told Kyiv Post that from his perspective, at the sharp end of the AFU, that success comes only with pain. […]
“As soon as there is an attack, Russian artillery starts to work on us with everything it has, and they hammer our positions from front to back, the infantryman said. “Every hundred meters of land we gain means 4-5 infantrymen who have left the ranks – this is the average loss.” […]
The soldier told Kyiv Post his unit had “internalized” the reality of continuing losses and that he and his buddies would continue to attack. The problem, he said, is doing that against an opponent whose air force is dominant, whose population is four times larger than Ukraine’s, and whose artillery has ranged and targeted any fortification Ukrainian troops are likely to capture. Troops on the frontline are becoming resigned to getting hit eventually, he said.
“I think about it like this: people in a crashing plane have no chance, and according to statistics,
we have 30 percent killed and 40 percent wounded, so there is a chance of survival, and people in the plane have none. So, it’s not so bad. In ordinary life, too, bricks can fall on your head,” he said.
[…]
“>https://www.kyivpost.com/post/19707

Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 22 2023 8:39 utc | 274

Re: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 22 2023 4:44 utc | 254
Yep the Unabomber & Stack make good points however their seeming inability to comprehend the people’s mood-stage in the development of a revolutionary mindset had them moving decades before the population is ready.
amerikans are rightly angry at the hopelessness of their existence but they have yet to be driven to the stage that revolution seems the only viable option. There are many reasons for this one of the largest being the reluctance of ordinary decent humans to resort to the inevitable violence which fighting a revolution always demands. Even worse perhaps is the residual post-indoctrination belief that it is all about oneself and one’s own family when a much broader acceptance of justice for the many is required for a fightback. Too many amerikans still cling to the faux life raft of ‘If only our family can claw our way outta this mess everything will be fine’.
Beliefs such as that leave little scope for united action.
Which is not to say it can never happen; the parasites are now so greedy they couldn’t stop even if some of them wanted to as the entire amerikan corporate capitalist system requires growth (ie more profit) each & every year. As it becomes more difficult to garner that outside amerika they will focus like lasers on amerikans who will find the retirement age has blown out to 75 years and medicare for the aged no longer worth shit.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jul 22 2023 9:00 utc | 275

287 – Well, in Jaroslav Hasek’s “The Good Soldier Svejk”, set in WW1, Svejk is in a hospital with other presumed malingerers and they are given all sorts of unpleasant treatments to make them leave for normal military service. While being given an enema Svejk tells the attendants not to spare him. “Try to think that Austria’s fate depends on these enemas and victory will be ours.”
However, Svejk was probably being elaborately sarcastic. This guy, on the other hand…

Posted by: Waldorf | Jul 22 2023 9:09 utc | 276

Regarding the Strelkov arrest,
Of the few currently covering it in English who’ve read what he’s been writing, there’s Rolo Slavskiy on Substack.
There’s also an excellent recent rundown by another Strelkov supporter, Anatoly Karlin:
https://nitter.nl/powerfultakes/status/1682554083868131330
Partial quote:
From any Z perspective that’s of modestly above room temperature IQ (which admittedly rules out the great bulk of AngloZ, many of whom are so distanced from the Russian discourse as to be celebrating the imprisonment of a “traitor”), it is morbidly funny that it is characters like Strelkov (Kvachkov, Surovikin for a month now, etc.) who find themselves behind bars, while Putin’s “Chef” – the guy who spearheaded a mutiny/failed coup, over the course of which 7 expensive RuAF aircraft were downed and more than a dozen airmen were killed – remains happy, pardoned, in custody of his assets, free to flit about between Belarus and SPB, unbothered, in his lane, moisturized, flourishing.

Anyway, it’ll be interesting to see who’s right…

Posted by: E | Jul 22 2023 9:18 utc | 277

All the excellent comments in the thread have gotten me thinking. The West reached its zenith during the Cold War. Unfortunately the Cold War ended with Russia ceasing to be Communist, and the West just went downhill since then. So now the West wants the Cold War back again, but not so that the West can rise again, that is not possible, but it is possible for the soon to be impoverished Europe to be separated from Russia. The USA wants to secure its European vassals for its (USA) benefit so its European vassals must not have any contaminating contact with Russia. The USA therefor needs to isolate Russia again.
Ukraine was supposed to a trap for Russia. Russia was supposed to go into Ukraine old Stalin WW2 brute force style, then a new Cold War could arise and Russia could be isolated again. That’s why Nord Stream was blown up, Russia must be isolated completely, economically and socially, just like during the Cold War.
But instead of Russia going in hard into Ukraine and just blowing away all opposition, Russia opted for its SloMO strategy instead. The SloMO strategy has multiple benefits. First, its allows trade to continue, therefore contact with Europe to continue. Which is what the USA just does not want. Secondly, as shadowbanned indicated, if Russia goes hard into Ukraine and blows all opposition away, “this will mean an irreversible separation of Russia from the West”, which is exactly what the USA wants. Therefore Russia is taking great pains not to go in hard in Ukraine. Instead Russia is just shelling and allowing supplies to move across from Poland to Eastern Ukraine, as such deliveries do not “pose a serious threat to ongoing/future operations.” Milites. So Russia is conducting its lazy SloMO campaign just so some in Europe sill still have contact with Russia, all be it by the supply of troops or materials to the Ukrainian war effort. Russia is trying by all means to prevent a new Cold War from arising, and the USA wants a new Cold War by means fair and foul. The longer no Cold War exists, the greater the possibility of Russia turning the vassals of the USA in Europe over to its (Russia’s) side.
So, those warmongers in Russia are actually supporting the USA’s objectives whether they know it or not. Those warmongers in Russia should definitely be “volunteered” to work in factories producing Armata tanks in Siberia. Russia was trying to avoid this Ukrainian conflict all the time, hence Russia wanted peace in Donetsk and Lugansk even in 2014. Even now Putin the Peace Maker is seeking a peace deal.
Putin might get lucky, or he might find out that the history of humanity is the history of war, we’ll have to wait and see.

Posted by: gT | Jul 22 2023 9:23 utc | 278

I never hid my opinion about Mr. Girkin (aka Strelkov) and I stressed not for once that not only he IS NOT a military leader–he never was one, having NO military education and having his failures in Donbass hushed over from military amateurs by his self-promotion and friendly media–but that from the start of SMO his “opinions” and “forecasts” on issues of modern geopolitics, combined arms operations, Russian Armed Forces, NATO et al were nothing more than a delirium of a bitter loser who black-mouthed Russia and “Putin’s Regime” at every opportunity. He, certainly, has been able to create a sort of cult among a group of ignoramuses and for the last several years was pursuing his political ambitions, together with some other remnants of Russian Spring from Donbass, such as Pavel Gubarev, who saw a political process of integration of LDNR into Russia as a good opportunity to both enrich themselves and exercise their egos larger than cathedral.
Well, as was pointed out for years by many in Russia: not only Girkin was a guy culpable in surrendering Slavyansk to VSU (only interference from Alexander Borodai saved Girkin from being executed in Donetsk) but his open support for 404 was becoming clearer and clearer with each passing day, including some very strong signs that he might have been the SBU asset from the get go. Well, Girkin’s political career, as pathetic as it is, is over now:
A Moscow district court has ordered former Donbass militia commander Igor Strelkov to be remanded in custody until September 18, according to a press release on Friday. The controversial figure has been charged with public calls for extremist activities. Russian media earlier reported that Strelkov, who is also known by his real name, Igor Girkin, had been detained in Moscow on Friday amid allegations of extremism. Court documents show that he was charged with public calls for extremist activities made on the internet. The offense is punishable under Russian law by up to five years in prison, with a ban on occupying certain government positions for three years beyond that. The judge explained her decision by stating that Strelkov has a vast network of contacts as well as skills that could help him attempt to flee justice, RIA Novosti reported.
For Western audiences subsisting on propaganda and sensationalism it is often next to impossible to have proper perspective on such personalities or events, e.g. Prigozhin and Wagner and their blown out of proportion military “capability” while in reality sustaining catastrophic casualties. So, in the Manichean world of black and white images, the fact that Girkin is an enemy not just of Putin but of the majority of Russians and that his “military accomplishments” are rather minuscule, or that Prigozhin now is under a scrutiny by some serious people in MoD and FSB and he WILL answer for Russian heli and IL-22 pilots shot down by his “troops”, is very difficult to process. Understandably so.
But here it is, long anticipated reaction of the nation which is at war to someone who always was an enemy. Mr. Gubarev also was detained today, especially after it was disclosed that very large sums of money have been “appropriated” by this once “hero” of Russian Spring. Nobody is above the law, especially during SMO. It is also a good signal to all those “voenkors” ranging from lowlifes such as Sladkov or Pegov, to “analysts” of Rybar or Podolyaka “caliber” who have been spreading open disinformation for many months now, that times are changing. And that is about time. Needless to say that practically all of them are people who merely used their geographic location close to SMO battle-lines or large audiences primarily for promotion of their personal financial interests and egos, and discrediting by default the work of real military reporters.
I am on record, TG channels on SMO are primarily trash, with exception of official MoD or FM channels and channels of such people like Marat Khairullin–the rest is sheer trash. That is why, as an example, I had to disagree with Scott with regards to Alexander Kotz who left his mark through supporting Maidan and providing a constant stream of BS, despite being identified as Kremlin propagandist. So, today’s putting Girkin and Gubarev behind bars where both definitely belong is a good sign of Moscow’s intentions to finally clean the cesspool of people who either consciously or due to sheer stupidity have been working for the enemy.
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/07/well-about-time.html

Posted by: Chocelosky | Jul 22 2023 9:28 utc | 279

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 22 2023 5:11 utc | 257
Today, 22. July 2023 is the 12th anniversary of Norway’s 911, i.e. the false flag attacks that took place 22. July 2011 in Oslo (Government house bombing) and Utøya (traditional Labour Party summer camp), killing almost 70 people. Officially, this was all done by a single person, but the photographic evidence and immediate witness reports tell a different story.
Prime Minister at the time was Jens Stoltenberg, current NATO General Secretary. He was always a compromised person, but being really close to this event handed him the job as NATO General Secretary. Everyone can see how he serves his masters.

I once asked you about the background, and read the links you gave me. Thanks again for that!
I am interested in how you see the logic of compromisation: all of the current Western leaders seem awfully compromised. Joseph Biden: open graft and nepotism. Olaf Scholz: Warburg bank & cum ex scandal. Emanuel Macro: Benalla & McKinsey affairs. If they’re too young for heavy scandals (Young Global Leaders!) then they often lack a proper profession and are therefore totally dependent in a different way.
[Randomly related: do you recall how Scotland’s Nicola Sturgeon recently stepped back over a totally trivial matter? How Dominique Strauss-Kahn got booted out on a random rape case that must happen on a daily basis in these circles? The kompromat has to be strong in the upper echelons of society.]
So here’s my question: Do you think that Stoltenberg was (a) already compromised before Utøya and the event was just another warning or that (b) the event compromised him heavily enough to be a good NATO loudspeaker? (I still don’t believe that NATO secretaries wield any real power.)
The good thing is that we can watch their souls dying in them long before they fuck off at last.

Posted by: Konami | Jul 22 2023 9:38 utc | 280

292 –
Год назад Стрелков сказал (есть видеозапись): если меня арестуют, значит либеральная “башня” Кремля победила “партию победы”, и СВО сольют. Типа, следите за моей судьбой). Вот, арестовали.
“A year ago Strelkov said (there is a video recording): ‘if I am arrested, it means that the liberal “tower” of the Kremlin has defeated the “victory party”, and they will leak away the SMO. Like, watch my fate’.) Here, they arrested him.”
(Comment by “maniflora” on Colonel Cassad website)
My own view – what this means will come out in the fullness of time, but it is strange that Prigozhin is still free after an armed mutiny, and this has not gone unnoticed in the Russian commentariat.

Posted by: Waldorf | Jul 22 2023 10:03 utc | 281

LOL
Meanwhile in the real world Ukraine is attacking Crimea once again
Kiev strikes ammunition depot in Crimea – official
Governor Sergey Aksyonov has ordered a mass evacuation from the danger zone

on RT
…but you would not know that from reading Moa and the Yes-men crow here LOL

Posted by: Ghost of Tutankamon | Jul 22 2023 10:03 utc | 282

@E 290
Rolo Slavskiy?
Isn’t that the guy who prophesies Russia will surrender by December? That Rolo Slavskiy?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 22 2023 10:07 utc | 283

@Ajax 284:
Martyanov is so clairvoyant that in September last year when Russia abandoned Izyum and Kupyansk without a shot he claimed it was a 5D chess master plan, there would be an immediate Russian pincer counterattack and blocked me when I said that Russia rushing troops from Moscow in the middle of the night to save the line from collapse proved there was no plan and there would be no pincer counterattack. Ten months later and there is still no counterattack. That’s how clairvoyant Martyanov is.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 22 2023 10:12 utc | 284

Re:Posted by: gT | Jul 22 2023 9:23 utc | 291
“ if Russia goes hard into Ukraine and blows all opposition away, “this will mean an irreversible separation of Russia from the West”, which is exactly what the USA wants. “
I disagree with this conjecture. Russia made the decision of “irreversible separation” from the EU & West. In future, they may sell or trade, but rupture was done by EU itself for 30 years of breached contracts and trust. Russia will never return to once sought West “friendly” relations.
The “SMO” was always going to be a slo-mo war of attrition. With all possibilities of expansion to NATO/US war from onset and continues to date. They are simply waiting for NATO to step up publicly & do something stupid, like Poland striking Belarus, or Kalingrad and then pulverizing NATO.
They were never going to waste their hardware or manpower on Ukraine.
Michael Hudson is correct. This is a “commodities vs. dollar” war, as is playing out in Wheat & Oil, soon raw materials from China. Current “ammunition” shortages, supplies will turn into chip supplies, aluminum, steel, food, gas, oil, uranium, and all other commodities that “printing” billions won’t solve. It’s why the US went after Russia in the first place.
US didn’t send all those military reinforcements to “the gulf” for an Iran tanker war, they sent them as a response to Saudi Arabia & Egypt to get back in line.
The “commodity” war is full on. Ukraine means nothing to no one, other than “symbolic” for EU/West which failed internationally. They thought they could do the Syria/Lybia “example” for Russia to get back “in line” and have all the international support to support the “global currency” lest all nations fall. They are now “commodity” cornered, even India will not save them.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jul 22 2023 10:18 utc | 285

Another Russian commentator at Colonel Cassad:
“The government guarantees freedom of speech – but it doesn’t guarantee freedom AFTER speech…”

Posted by: Waldorf | Jul 22 2023 10:23 utc | 286

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 2:51 utc | 232
The guy is a fecking lawyer dont you know?
He has some judo black belt and plays chess as every Russian boy.
From day one he tried NOT to go to war. Today he’s a warring leader and still pretends not to be…
Are there powerful transnational oligarchs he ought to care about gently? Yes there are. He just nurtures them nicely. Do they own most things in Russia? Do they own most things as well in Ukraine? Yes.
Does it imply he has to spare their properties at the cost of Russian lives? At the cost of many more Ukrainian (Russophone) lives?
Yes.
What else would you do?
I was and am still in favor of some big thrust from Belarus to Moldavia, at all cost that would ensure quick victory followed by ruthless pacification (i.e. forcible emigration to western Europe and Canada of nazi Galicians and gang).
But for that you’d need some bank robber from Tbilissi and an all powerful communist party. A dozen of battle hardened field marshalls would help too.
Of course he does put patriots in jail, just because they are depressed by his weak hand and drink too much vodka as a consequence.
He’s a lawyer, isn’t he?

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jul 22 2023 10:33 utc | 287

karlof @ 211
Kissinger works for the Rockefellers, that is his faction. He has worked for Rockefellers and no one else since he got out of the Army. Likely when he wore the uniform he was already with the Rockefellers.
We pay so little attention to the actual ruling families it is hard to know what Kissinger’s masters are asking of him. This is by design.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 22 2023 10:44 utc | 288

@ 290
The trouble with Karlin is he’s an esoteric fascist loon, given to semi-coherent ideological tangents. Not a great starting point.
Strelkov hasn’t gone near Donbass for years, perhaps due to fear prosecution. Which is a point to ponder…

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jul 22 2023 10:50 utc | 289

The USSR was in a weak position and Russia after the breakup still was. And still are. They have to be pragmatic. As long as that is the case there is a role for the liberals but while that role has been tweaked downwards it hasnt gone away completely.
The USSR was beaten technologically but also in terms of geopolitical poker. Fortunately the US acted with psychological insight and/or were forced by economical realities on the shorter time perspective after leaving the gold backed dollar and before establishing the more vulnerable petrodollar.
(The rest of the west put up resistance with a challenging petrocurrency but backed off after threats from the anglosaxons and that whole drama has been thrown down the memory hole)
The US/USSR Trade and Economical Council and the US space hoax (where the USSR cooperated) played important roles but usually go unmentioned in connection with the USSR’s and Russia’s internal power struggle.
There are too many important yet unmentioned facts in our debate
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 22 2023 7:28 utc | 280

The USSR was actually in a very strong strategic position but Khrushchev and Brezhnev squandered it all away.
Always remember that the West went bankrupt in the 1970s when it started to run out of oil and other resources. And has been bankrupt in real terms ever since.
Meanwhile the USSR was sitting on plenty of resources (indeed, that is what the current war is really about).
It fell behind technologically (but nowhere near to the extent Western propaganda will make you think) because it was a block of 400M people against several times that under the control of the West. Population size matters a lot here because it determines how many scientists and engineers you can mobilize to work on R&D.
But the USSR initially had China on its side and the USSR+China could have crushed the West. Keep in mind also that the map of the world was growing increasingly red all the way to late 1970s.
The fiat petrodollar should not have been allowed. In effect, the US went bankrupt once it hit Peak Oil in the early 1970s but instead of officially going bankrupt, it turned around and did a judo move on the rest of the world by decoupling the USD from physical resources and creating the current situation in which it prints dollars in whatever quantities it wants and forces the rest of the world to give it real goods in return. What this system is backed by is the might of the Pentagon, but back in the 1970s there was a strong opposing force in the USSR that could have resisted. However, it didn’t, because the wives of the high ranking communist officials wanted to shop in Paris while they themselves were dreaming of ditching the Volgas for Mercedes and BMWs (at the end of the day, it indeed came down to crass petty desires like that), and they needed dollars for that.
P.S. Bringing up the “space hoax” tells us all we need to know about your credibility, but I am responding to the other points because way too many people have an incorrect understanding of the situation.

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 22 2023 10:52 utc | 290

When Poland enters Ukraine and Belarus enters along with Wagner fighting for them, the Ukrainian Army will become the fourth largest army in Ukraine.

Posted by: barstool | Jul 22 2023 10:53 utc | 291

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 22 2023 1:49 utc | 218
It’s why the YouTube commentators constant fixation on the, who is in possession of which trench, as a substitute for genuine operational developments is not only self-defeating but reinforces their amateur status. The losses accrued in the failed offensive, although substantial, are not the real problem facing Ukraine and the West, it’s the prodigious amount of supplies needed to launch an offensive and sustain it. Remember, by Ukrainian calculations the the first defensive line should have been reached and breached by D+1-2 with exploitation and capturing of the first objectives by D+3-4. However unrealistic that plan was it will have been supported by NATO’s ace in the hole, their superb logistics system, based on plus minus calculations of possibly up to 20%. Fast forward to today and we are at D+47 with no significant breach of the defence screen, let alone first defensive lines in the South and constant taking/retaking of frontal defensive positions in the East. Artillery have burned through their stockpiled reserves a month ago, yet are still having to support all the micro-offensives that are taking place, whilst constantly having their supply depots targeted. The Russian strategy of prioritising supply interdiction over CAS was a lesson learned from WW2, where the German fixation on ground support showed their strategically blinkered approach. The Russians also studied the Allied 2TAF’s performance and contrasted their own approach unfavourably, concluding that their independent air operations had not maximised either their tactical potential or crucially their interdictory capabilities. The result of this doctrinal focus on defeating an enemy before the first clash, was that NATO stockpiles, carefully built up over the months and globally resourced, were being destroyed before the offensive had even begun, and at a rate that could not be replenished fast enough. The targeting of AD supplies and systems also had a cumulative effect on this logistical attrition, as it meant supply dumps were more vulnerable against attacks delivered by increasingly more effective airborne weapons.
Without enough stocks, artillery could now not fully support the offensive in the planned concentrations and, given it was already shouldering the entire burden of providing that fire support, due to the lack of any viable CAS, the impact was immediate and the carnage was on people’s screens within hours. The impact of minefields on armoured offensives is a known quantity in the West, given that the Soviet defensive scheme at Kursk is covered in minute detail in NATO war college curriculums, so the official explanation, that their efficacy forced a transition to infantry centric operations, with armour now playing a supportive role, is laughably transparent. Ukraine had to curtail armoured operations because it could not logistically support them directly, or indirectly with fire support and those armoured breakthrough units themselves did not now have enough logistical support to attempt anything more than a token surge effort, before attrition forced them into a secondary role. Last year, doing back of the envelope calculations I figured that just to supply the promised Leopards for the proposed offensive timetable would take hundreds of tonnes of ammo and POL. Ukraine no longer has the capability to deploy armoured forces in the quantity needed, for the time required, to effect any significant breakthrough and exploitation of Russian defensive lines. She’s now keeping the bulk of her Western armour, with its limited supplies, behind their second/third lines of defence for a typically Eastern front role, that of the fire brigade, trying to prevent or slow any Russian armoured breakthroughs, if and when they come.
As for Russian logistics, they are decades behind the West, still reliant on railheads and lacking the mechanised systems NATO take for granted, leveraged from the commercial SOP’s that are crucial for a global JIT delivery system. The support of Russian operations in Syria was behind that of the Americans in Vietnam and more reminiscent of the Korean War, and the shambolic images of Russian troops stranded, for want of supplies, in the early stages of the SMO underlines Russias largely static logistical development. However, through a question of luck, circumstance and rapid field adaptions, Russia has largely shielded her Achilles heel, again, another fatal miscalculation from the West, to add to a growing list, that technology could redress the imbalance Ukraine would face, by exploiting Russia’s traditional vulnerabilities.
Forget possession of trench lines and small hamlets and shell-shattered tree lines, this is a battle of bullets, beans and bandages and Russia is not losing the logistical war, although having inherently inferior organic systems and platforms, by leveraging her superiority in the areas where she dominates. Something historically she has found historically hard to achieve.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 22 2023 10:54 utc | 292

Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 21 2023 16:04 utc | 43
best thing/most important thing I’ve seen in weeks of watching/reading. thanks.

Posted by: arthur brogard | Jul 22 2023 11:04 utc | 293

Re: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 22 2023 10:12 utc | 297
“Ten months later and there is still no counterattack. That’s how clairvoyant Martyanov is.”
Ten months ago the Ukrainians were not attacking & shelling Belograd. Today, they are attacking Belograd with cluster munitions. At start, they wanted just Lugansk & Donetsk. That’s finished.
They’ve no choice now, but to take Izium & Kharkiv back and they will.
At this rate, Ukraine military may well collapse before Russia occupies and retakes it. Either way, Ukraine as it was, is over.
Since they have decided to start bombing Crimea, I expect a full “Declaration of War” in this next month, a full mobilization, as military has been cleaned out, and we see all other signs & signals that the military/governance with economic signs of raising interest rates & all the military shuffle, all readying for full mobilization & total war economy coming.
But the African Summit will come first… there are reasons Putin will stay put in August & September as BRICS meets other than respect for SA Ramophosa. Virtual is good enough.
All the decisions are made. All loose ends are being tied up.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jul 22 2023 11:09 utc | 294

The usual take is that Strelkov is incompetent or bitter and a harsher alternative is that he’s a traitor. My take based on his volunteering in Bosnia and what happened in the Donbass is that he wanted to draw Russia to intervene in the war by inducing a situation of collapse of the Donbass defense when he realised that Moscow was keen on signing any agreement and trying to wrap up the war as soon as possible. I assume he thought that position unacceptable, and frankly anyone who had any knowledge of the carveup of Yugoslavia (and his was first hand) KNEW without a shadow of doubt that a showdown with the West was inevitable and that there was no chance for any agreement.
Whether it was the correct decision to wait for eight years or a catastrophic miscalculation we are never likely to find out. Very few people have oversight regarding what russia could or couldn’t have done with Ukraine over the past twenty years and even they must come to terms with the fact that their knowledge of outcomes is limited. It is evident at least that Russians did not believe themselves sufficiently strong for this fight and delayed it until it was no longer possible.

Posted by: Plebs | Jul 22 2023 11:11 utc | 295

..if MSM media is so irrelevant, why should we care about what’s on the front pages of these newspapers then?…
Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 21 2023 15:32 utc | 31
Because ignorance is bliss until a Happy Meal costs 50 bucks and reality hits.

Posted by: RiNS | Jul 22 2023 11:15 utc | 296

Ever since the rise of the internet has given the average person the ability to influence how the upper classes understand “the narrative,” the media and political class under the direction of the “power elite” have been trying to bring an end to an open and free speech internet.
Posted by: kana | Jul 21 2023 16:58 utc | 63
Yes! And while we’ve still got it therein lies the hope for a future.

Posted by: arthur brogard | Jul 22 2023 11:15 utc | 297

but you would not know that from reading Moa and the Yes-men crow here LOL
Posted by: Ghost of Tutankamon | Jul 22 2023 10:03 utc | 295
Except somebody will post it. We know about events like this, especially if reported on RT. Also, Southfront will cover events like this.
You underestimate the fourth eye and the throat chakra.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 22 2023 11:22 utc | 298

@arthur brogard #306
Thanks. There also should be an English version of one of the articles, but the link doesn’t work: https://www.realcleardefense.com/2023/07/20/why_ukraines_counter-offensive_is_failing_967392.html

Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 22 2023 11:38 utc | 299

Sorry if a bit long but trying to kill many birds with one stone this Saturday morning…
@ Posted by: malenkov | Jul 22 2023 1:36 utc | 213
Lol thanks, was on the way to respond to the daily pointless shadow boxing to divert from the real Putin and his comrades. I see as usual the many ‘concerned’ here ignore Putins words that he straight talks. As I pointed out last night. Curious isn’t it?
@ Posted by: David Levin | Jul 22 2023 1:39 utc | 21
“the content (read that as “spin”) that they emphasize the most, seems remarkably similar… act is if they’re receiving common marching orders from the CIA or some other..”
David , It is called the PROPAGANDA MULTIPLIER.
It is operated through the Western News Agencies from which ALL ‘news’ is daily DECLAIMED across all mainstream media and a large number of so called alternative media too.
Including their paid bot btl so called random commentators who are sock puppets and 77th Brigade type employees.
Reuters, PA etc are the high priests of the daily pulpit. They even have the praetorian spooks on their boards and the daily propaganda is their function.
Editors and senior journalists of major media are the sheepdogs that make sure actual real journalism and idealist journos are kept down and trained into being good priests of their daily shit stream indoctrination. They gather their parishioners in their supposed different churches and set up some minor differences between their supposed doctrines and then sell the big lie of the same eternal damnation if they disbelieve the priests.
It’s a Punch and Judy show , which is what the interactions between the shadowy and sting tale teller protagonists above clearly shows.
The sheep think they are choosing which grass they eat and can go anywhere they like. Genius eh? That modus has been operating for centuries through the various religions and militaries and monarchies, through to Empire and its literary geniuses who crafted the next gen stories and stereotypes.
Think that the English writers evolved from their oxbridge colleges to write just children’s stories ? That’s not why these universities exist , it is to control knowledge and belief and develop the mantras that we can be controlled by.
That is why Capitalism/AntiCapitalism is a fabrication that I was shocked to discern and try and tell people about.
That is why Left/Right are their creations. To hide the Top from all us below.
@ Posted by: AG | Jul 22 2023 1:39 utc | 215
Totally agree see above re who these ‘tenured’ academic types are. Just another facet of the loaded dice.
@ Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 22 2023 10:44 utc | 301
“We pay so little attention to the actual ruling families it is hard to know what Kissinger’s masters are asking of him. This is by design.”
Yes and maybe. It is vital for our grandkids and future to name the ancient beasts within our society and stop their never ending slave ownership of our progeny as we have Al away a been slave to them. Witting and unwitting.
My take on Kissinger is that he has been positioned as the backstop if this attempt at taking Russia today and China tomorrow fails again. They are used to failing. They just regather and go again with another generation. That’s why the madness persists over generations.
Kissinger is being traded upon his age and the Chinese ancient respect of the elders. Of course he is received with politeness.
He was scrambled because Yellen failed with her dumb ‘go and kowtow to the Chinese and see if you can get them to believe they are actually special compared to their fellows.in which case we can buy them’. That was so comical they are now trying to say the Chinese have her magic mushrooms that made her so obsequious!
Kissinger is pure evil. He can’t be alive still if he hasn’t benefited from the most modern secret medical developments. Including probably the missing organ donors of the borderlands..same goes for all these old bastards who seat at the Top Table of the Masters of Humanity.
————-
Anyway if genuine readers here missed Putins latest and final warning to the Poles and Romanians about being careful about what they wish for, please go and look it up. Karl may already have linked to it. I saw it in Victorkops telegram yesterday.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 22 2023 11:41 utc | 300