Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 21, 2023
Something Amiss

There is a war happening in Europe that is, interestingly, no longer mentioned on the first two screens of the front pages of the Washington Post and the New York Times.


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The failure of the Ukrainian counter-offensive and its lack of any viable way to win the conflict seems to be sinking in.

Who wants to write or read about the huge strategic mistake the Biden administration committed when it blackmailed Ukraine as well as its other vassals, especially when the beltway gang is strongly in favor of another Biden presidency. The alternative, another round of artificially Trump-ed up chaos, seems unbearable to them.

This despite further evidence that Biden's policies and influence were always for sale, especially to foreign bidders.

That is, by the way, another scandal that is not allowed to be on the front pages the Washington 'elite' is filling for the commons' consumption.

Comments

if lack of news coverage could lead to lack of media war-cheerleading then hopefully we are getting closer towards cease-fire, treaty, end of war. (perhaps naive anti-war voice chiming in, noisy bar fulla war cheerleaders)
Posted by: Patrick Constantine | Jul 21 2023 18:21 utc
Other than the Trolls. I believe most here want an end to this insane war. I most certainly do. This war should have ended in the summer of last year. When Ukraine’ army was defeated, their Navy sunk, and Air force grounded.
But after all the broken agreements, bad intentions, and supply of money and arms, by the West.
Now, this war will only end on Russia’s terms. Russia is in full control.

Posted by: Golddigger | Jul 21 2023 18:38 utc | 101

Mark 2
Quote “preoccupation of America and the western world will be the US presidential election, nothing else will matter to America the rest of the world wont concern them. Top to bottom.
I think Vladimir Putin knew this from the beginning of the SMO and was a major consideration regarding his go slow approach.
It will work in Russia’s favour in alot of different ways.
‘Playing for time'”
So Russia is supposed to always look over shoulder as to what her e genies do before reacting? No action but always reaction or may be even not that?
Like Russia was waiting for 2nd term election of President Obama? Or recently Vilnius summit. Or election of trump? Or election of Biden?
In other words Russia is too occupied with what others do first before doing something egging on her own. Sign of a coward indecisive entity.

Posted by: Sam | Jul 21 2023 18:41 utc | 102

@unimperator | Jul 21 2023 17:50 utc | 84
The Russians are just being lazy as per usual. Their aerial and space assets can detect trains being loaded up, then the departure times and probable routes as well. Then a cheap drone can blow out the railway line in front of the train, point A, forcing the train to stop and another cheap drone can blow up the railway line behind the train, point B, leaving a stationary train on the tracks. Then other cheap drones can finish the train off between points A and B. Ukraine is 1316 km wide and the range of the Garan-2 drone is estimated to be 2000km, so Russia has cheap means of bombing western Ukraine, the drones fly faster than the trains. But Russia chooses to let most of the trains pass unmolested from Poland to Eastern Ukraine, allowing the German and British tanks to reach the front lines.

Posted by: gT | Jul 21 2023 18:43 utc | 103

@ Pah @ &: I suspect that the reason that Ukraine did not attack the ZNPP was that Zelenskii was promised a NATO expeditionary force, and getting troops to charge into a radioactive contaminated zone is, say, problematic.
Anyway, we’ve been hearing that Ukraine is near the end for over a year now. As long as Russia has no way to even mildly inconvenience the decisionmakers in Washington, short of launching a nuclear war, Washington has every incentive to keep on doubling down.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jul 21 2023 18:44 utc | 104

This reads to me as Putin has come to terms with prospect of Poland moving into west Ukraine:
https://www.rt.com/russia/580080-poland-western-ukraine-putin/

Posted by: jared | Jul 21 2023 18:55 utc | 105

@ gT @106: Oh, the excuses that the cheerleaders and fanbois can come up with!
Drones are cheap and railroads are big, easily damaged, and immobile.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jul 21 2023 18:56 utc | 106

I read that the White House “is considering” giving Ukraine ATACMS.
Any time you read those words, the decision has already been made and the weapons are already on their way or have already been delivered.
Stop kidding yourselves, the West is nowhere near doubling down.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jul 21 2023 19:00 utc | 107

Let’s be honest here. Even if RU had some theoretical possibility to hit on-the-move convoys from Poland to Ukraine ( it probably can’t hit moving convoys in western Ukraine), it it much more efficient to focus their recon assets in the area near and east of Dnepr, in the most likely areas where they will be stockpiled for the end use scenario, attack and defense. That is Dnepro, Zaporozhye, Kherson, Nikolaev, Kharkov, Chasov Yar, Slavyansk, etc. It is a much smaller area to cover, but it can be covered with much more density and redundancy making finding stuff more efficient.
Within the last week they hit the train with Leopard and Bradley’s in Kharkov rail junction. So why didn’t they hit the same train in Lvov? The answer is obvious.
Posted by: unimperator | Jul 21 2023 17:50 utc | 84

Absolute nonsense.
Within 6-12 hours of that decision being made, Ukraine can be left entirely without a railway system. Let’s see how they move things around after that. But there has been pretty much zero effort towards disabling the railways, which have been running perfectly fine all along.
The road crossings that trucks are using can also be disabled and then kept disabled if attempts are made to repair them. What Ukraine did with the Antonovsky bridge. That they are at the Polish, Slovakian and Romanian borders is irrelevant — RU has spent 70 years preparing for strategic strikes not just in Westenr Europe but across the globe, this is nothing in terms of distance.
If it’s too hard to do conventionally, use tactical nukes if need be. One kiloton a kilometer inside the Ukrainian border will make a very nice hole in the roads and railways that it will take a very long time to fill in and repair (and radioactivity will have to subside first, which, because this is a ground explosion and not an airburst, will take some time).
Just do it.
Because:

Strelkov and all of Wagner, and others of a similar mindset, should all be dragged off to some factory in Siberia where tanks are manufactured.
Posted by: gT | Jul 21 2023 17:58 utc | 86

Strelkov has a largely spotless predictive record over the course of the SMO. He said the initial invasion was botched within a couple weeks of it, then immediately started talking about the need for mobilization and how if it is not done right then, RU would be soon on the defensive. And RU was soon on the defensive indeed, and in a very humiliating way too.
Then he said the partial mobilization is not enough, and that was correct too.
He repeatedly criticized the senseless frontal assaults against the strongest fortifications in the Donbass, and was correct about that too.
He was also correct that the fall of Bakhmut will not be exploited the way Popasnaya was. Accurate again — RU has been losing ground around Bakhmut ever since.
The fact is that the last proper Russian advance was more than a year ago — Severodonetsk-Lisichansk. And at the time the Russian army was mostly steamrolling the Ukrainians — Severodonetsk-Lisichansk fell within a month, and those were sizable cities of 100,000 people each. After that RU lost huge territories largely without a fight and where it moves forward, advances are measured in a couple football fields a day here and there (how is it that they have been just outside Kupyansk since January and you hear they take some village once a month, then a few months later you hear they took it again, because apparently they retreated without anyone reporting on that?). Meanwhile tens of thousands Russian soldiers are dead.
What changed?
Western weaponry flooded in, that is what changed.
And Putin didn’t lift a finger to stop it.
With that inaction he is directly responsible for the deaths of all those tens of thousands of Russian soldiers, as well as for the deaths of the couple hundred thousand Ukrainians who died in that time, most of whom are also Russians. Those would have surrendered and still be alive if they had no weapons to fight with.
I am not so naive to think that he is solely responsible for that decision — there is a powerful circle of pro-Western people in the Russian elite who are the real culprits — but he is the commander-in-chief, thus he bears the ultimate responsibility for what happens and has a duty to protect the lives of Russians, both soldiers and civilians. And he is not doing that even though the technical means are in his hands. Objective fact. Either come out and take the side of the patriots in the internal struggle within Russia, or you should suffer the same fate as Nicholas II, and rightfully so.
This week is especially infuriating. Maybe we will be proven wrong and in the next 72 hours Bankova St. will be leveled, Zelensky, Danilov, and co. will be carbonized, the Rada will be destroyed, etc. But it has been 5 days since the strike on the Kerch bridge already, so it increasingly looks like it will not be responded at all. The strikes against Odessa were all pre-planned actions after the end of the grain deal. Nothing prevented strikes on Kiev in parallel — Odessa has been hit with drones, Kalibrs, some Tu-22M-launched cruise missiles, and Oniks coastal defense batteries. Meanwhile the Tu-95s and Tu-160s have been on the ground, no Iskanders from Bryansk have been launched either. So it was not an either/or situation by any means.
What the Kremlin did instead was to go after Kvachkov and Strelkov. So Banderites are free to do whatever they want in Kiev and Lvov but the Kremlin made sure Kvachkov and Strelkov are in jail? What does that look like, FFS?

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 19:04 utc | 108

From Bernard’s link “This despite further evidence”, Washington Examiner. Chuck Grassley>
“The American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and HEROIC WHISTLEBOLWERS,”
Did a relatively quick search using 3 search engines, including Yandex to see if Chuck Grassley had made any statements in support of Julian Assange, the WHISTLEBLOWER who risked it all.
Couldn’t find a thing. Perhaps someone else can.
But here’s the thing that stands out for me, rooting for one US Organized Criminal Political Syndicate to over come the other, is a mugs game imo, opinion which has evolved over some 7 decades and is always evolving according to inputs.
Long distance backing of the likes of Donald Trump will have no impact on highly controlled narratives and the works of the dream weavers like Karl Rove and the Podesta / Clinton machine. They will keep rolling on despite your ankle biting efforts.
But there is Assange, clearly a political prisoner. If the likes of Grassley had the courage to do the right thing and speak out in support of the world’s leading WHISTLEBLOWER, that would be a true VICTORY for ‘People-kind’.. But he won’t, so why highlight yet another phony?
Sorry if I upset your black panther party….Loose quote from that great sage, Forrest Gump.
But he won’t, so why root for the return of the other side of the

Posted by: Bubbles | Jul 21 2023 19:07 utc | 109

gT 82
The concept of forgiveness is that it takes one to know one. Don’t pick up litter from other people’s insanity.
Leave them to reap their own bad karma.
We fight on principles , not anger.
Anger kills intelligence, which isvwhy psychopaths provoke.
This is psychology, but it’s also a teaching of Judausm , Christianity and Islam. Putin’s Slomo is designed to dis assemble USUKIS arrogance and punish the use of indoctrination proxies in order to circumvent the International Law that USUKIS itself put in place.
USUKIS is collapsing slowly into the morass of its own hypocrisy madness.
The war doesn’t end in victory. It ends with USUKIS repenting its age old colonial tricks. It could take generations for them to change. My generation had learnt the lessons of the two world wars, but it was followed by a generation of empire2 recidivist criminals. Theyv have chosen the hard way of intentional ignorance.
The reality is also contained in the scriptures, that actions stem from the contents of the heart. If you put the worship of One God in your heart, rather than tripe, there will be peace.
Some people say that Putin’s son is a Muslim, but politicians rarely wear their hearts on their sleeves so maybe his dad is a closet Muslim, for fear of enraging the pagans of USUKIS.

Posted by: Giyane | Jul 21 2023 19:12 utc | 110

@Bruised Northerner
The first Barbie was German: “During a trip to Europe in 1956 with her children Barbara and Kenneth, Ruth Handler came across a German toy doll called Bild Lilli. The adult-figured doll was exactly what Handler had in mind, so she purchased three of them. She gave one to her daughter and took the others back to Mattel. The Lilli doll was based on a popular character appearing in a comic strip drawn by Reinhard Beuthin for the newspaper Bild. Lilli was a blonde bombshell, a working girl who knew what she wanted and was not above using men to get it. The Lilli doll was first sold in Germany in 1955”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie#History

Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 21 2023 19:12 utc | 111

Now england blatantly admits to her plotting and managing the Ukraine war openly.
Quote “Russian Intelligence Service slams MI6 chief for asking Russians to spy for London”. Then why does Russia not sabotage england from within – there must be disgruntled ele. Ents in police state of england. After all this is what English pirates do to others. Ultimately MI6 HQ and chelte ham must be bomded to kill all English spies who have been plotting wars against Russia.
But Russian’s are too lazy to do that and they only react (that too not often) to Anglos atrocities on Russian interest.
Kill that Moore bas-rd.

Posted by: Sam | Jul 21 2023 19:12 utc | 112

If/When Russia does conquer all of Ukraine (unlikely IMO), the very final chapter will be to turn the Ukranians back into bad Soviet-type bad guys, instead of Heroes. This assumes that they more or less accept Russian rule and aren’t constantly rebelling (in which case, they will still be heroes).

Posted by: ScienceJoe | Jul 21 2023 19:15 utc | 113

“i enjoy fat fingers when i am examined by medical professionals”
Watch out, James. That might not be his finger.

Posted by: Sentient | Jul 21 2023 19:20 utc | 114

Posted by: james | Jul 21 2023 14:50 utc | 10
«Both sides maintain a tight control over messaging and censorship, especially it seems to me the so called free press in the west. But then I ca’t read Russian and have been blocked by my government from many sources of Russian news (RT). So maybe they are doing the same. Hard to say from where I am sitting (in my government controlled safe space) but no doubt someone can illuminate me.
At least for the west the instant and co-ordinated propaganda response suggests pre-planning, if only on a contintengy basis. But I think there was more to that than this. Clearly the information war was always considered critical by NATO planners.
«
And had economic sanctions had the intended impact»
Perhaps they did have the intended impact, just not the declared one. Anyhow it is too soon to evaluate the impact, I guess that the USA plan is to pile a number of elements, none of which would be enough by itself, to eventually, over 10-20 years, trigger regime change in Moscow.

Posted by: Blissex | Jul 21 2023 19:20 utc | 115

Perhaps the lack of coverage is due to Ukraine using American provided cluster munitions?
It wouldn’t serve the imperial interests to broadcast war crime committed by the “good guys”. However, you can bet any Russian retaliation using cluster munitions of their own would be on the front page of every paper.

Posted by: Sid Victor Cattoni | Jul 21 2023 19:23 utc | 116

Strelkov and all of Wagner, and others of a similar mindset, should all be dragged off to some factory in Siberia where tanks are manufactured. Maybe a new factory can be built just for them there, an Armata factory. They can either die working on the factory floor or die fighting on the frontlines when WW3 breaks out. Either way they will die for the glory of Russia so they won’t be too upset. No Government, no matter its best intentions, has the time or energy to take everyone’s opinion into consideration, so its best that those with too much energy and opinions can utilize their overabundance of energy in a manner which benefits the state, as opposed to utilizing their overabundance of energy in a manner that detracts from the day to day running of the state. During war time democratic liberties such as expressing one’s opinion should be curtailed, and it is war time in Russia now is it not?
Posted by: gT | Jul 21 2023 17:58 utc | 86
The arrest of Strelkov was in my opinion unwarranted. Not because he or his Club Of Infuriated Patriots (whoever came up with that name needs to go lie down) have any credibility, but for precisely the opposite reason. Strelkov is an embittered has been whose predictions since 2015 have only ever mattered by how spectacularly wrong they were (like his predicting Russia would lose in Syria and Assad was doomed). In recent days he is no more than a ranting clown. Letting him rant from his soapbox doesn’t make him credible. Arresting him, however, gives him a legitimacy he does not deserve. He should just be told to pipe down and be let go, before he’s been reinvented into some kind of wronged martyr.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 21 2023 18:04 utc | 87

I disagree….
Without Strelkov, Mozgovoi, etal… there would have been no DonBass..
He knows that Putin snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in 2014-2015
BECAUSE….
Putin feared economic collapse engendered by CIA/MI6/NSA/World Bank/IMF/USFED
BECAUSE…..
At that time….. the Russian economy was vulnerable…. The hypersonics were on the drawing boards…
You forget that Strelkov went to DonBass to volunteer as a private to fight and die if necessary for DonBass..
I forf one, think the best solution for Strelkov is to give him a PMC based in SW Belarus targeted with a thrust south with it’s right flank on the Polish Border…. destination Carpathian Mts.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jul 21 2023 19:25 utc | 117

Aliens
Posted by: Ct23 | Jul 21 2023 14:37 utc | 1
Sure but we got Barbie so…
Posted by: nwwoods | Jul 21 2023 14:37 utc | 2
Everybody loves a winner.
Posted by: Via Getty | Jul 21 2023 14:40 utc | 5
That moment when the music stops
Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 21 2023 14:40 utc | 6
I love the opening amusement.
I mean it’s not like it was a really big war… more of a conflict really. We should be reasonable and move on.
I say! Was that a squirrel over there?

Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 21 2023 19:25 utc | 118

Oops I messed up my previous comment, here it is again, right this time:
Posted by: james | Jul 21 2023 14:50 utc | 10
«Both sides maintain a tight control over messaging and censorship, especially it seems to me the so called free press in the west.»
It is a standard thing and it has a standard name, it is called “home front morale operations” and there are textbooks on it.
«And had economic sanctions had the intended impact»
Perhaps they did have the intended impact, just not the declared one. Anyhow it is too soon to evaluate the impact, I guess that the USA plan is to pile a number of elements, none of which would be enough by itself, to eventually, over 10-20 years, damage home front morale in the RF and enable regime change in Moscow.

Posted by: Blissex | Jul 21 2023 19:27 utc | 119

If the US election were 3.5 months away instead of 15.5 months, they might try to ride out the Ukraine narrative. 15.5 months is too far off. Russia will have decisively won by then. Better to get it over soon, so that it’s forgotten – like Afghanistan. The last few days, the legacy media in the US has been “all climate change, all the time”. You’d think it’s never been hot in July before. Stevie Wonder had an album 43 years ago called “Hotter than July”.

Posted by: Sentient | Jul 21 2023 19:28 utc | 120

Has anyone seen these?
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Theodore_Kaufman

Theodore Newman Kaufman was an American Jewish businessman and writer known for his racist and eliminationist views on Germans.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Germany_Must_Perish.pdf

[Kaufmann’s Germany Must Perish! is a racist polemic illustrating the views of powerful interests among the victorious WWI Allies and is as vicious as anything produced by the NAZI’s themselves.

I don’t know if “Lech” (81) is just another troll (could be new here), but what many if not most of us have been pointing out for years is that Germany is occupied/controlled by the United States and doesn’t have its own foreign policy. And unlike Germany, the United States is geographically surrounded by two whole oceans and has not experienced war on its own soil within living memory.
(the former East Germany would also like to ask, “Am I a joke to you?”)

Posted by: joey_n | Jul 21 2023 19:32 utc | 121

Posted by: bevin | Jul 21 2023 15:10 utc | 20
Hard to tell without all the facts buddy.
1. First of all you have to look at where the inflation is conning from and what’s causing it. The supply side or the demand side, cost push , cost pull etc, etc. There could be any number of reasons what is causing it.
2. If increasing rates will actually effect it. Rates, don’t make road, rail or sea move any faster to reduce supply side shortages or bottlnecks for example. All increasing interest rates do is make loans more expensive. The cost of which gets passed onto consumers as higher prices.
3. Then check the size of your debt to GDP due to the interest income channels . The higher the debt to GDP the bigger effect will be of the fiscal stimulus caused by interest payments on the Russian bonds that go to the private sector.
Looking at the Russian interest rate v Russian inflation rate in the following graph
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/russia-interest-rate@2x.png?s=rrefrate&v=202307211152V20230410&d1=20130723&url2=/russia/inflation-cpi
It doesn’t look like a very good idea because clearly the Russian inflation rate has been tracking the Russian interest rate. So going by the graph they should be cutting interests and not increasing them.
Or
Just Leave interest rates alone for a while and identify what is causing it and increase spending in that area to reduce the bottlenecks and shortages. Or whatever is causing it.
The Interest/Price Spiral
https://new-wayland.com/blog/interest-price-spiral/
The Perpetual Problem With Interest Rates
https://new-wayland.com/blog/the-perpetual-problem-with-interest-rates/
IF the inflation is being caused by something the central bank has no control over like not enough boats, trains or a certain commodity and then they try to fix it by using the interest rate. They are just going to make it worse. A lot worse. Increase inflation instead of fighting it.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 21 2023 19:38 utc | 122

“Who wants to write or read about the huge strategic mistake the Biden administration committed when it blackmailed Ukraine as well as its other vassals”
I describe the US as vassal of Israel.
Is it vassals all the way down?

Posted by: Whitney | Jul 21 2023 19:44 utc | 123

What British tanks at the front line? They are hiding in the rear.
The Challengers are well hidden as the Anglos are a bit more canny than the Germans and don’t want their hardware blasted into composite parts across the viewscreens of the world.
Can you sense the frustration of the Empires running dogs that Russia doesn’t respond to its provocations like Pavlovs dog?

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jul 21 2023 19:46 utc | 124

# 30
The same CBC where their “award winning” rosemary barton stated the truckers convoys here in Canada were organized by the Russians, or obits, that it seems every Canadian merc killed in the ukraine was a medic.
https://www.wrightmuseum.org/2020/10/01/the-soviet-night-witches/
Anyways here’s a bit on… sometimes the “best most advanced weapons” are not always the best.

Posted by: heavymetal 101 | Jul 21 2023 19:48 utc | 125

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 17:10 utc | 72
«Ukraine isn’t a real country, it is a fake made up thing designed to tear off the most important chunk of the Russian world from the motherland.»
Is Austria a real country? Is Canada a real country? Is Ireland a real country? Are Norway or Finland real countries? Is Switzerland a real country or four chunks of the french, german, italian, ladin world torn off from the motherland?
The modern idea is that a state is a voluntary association, as Putin has well said, and if the ruthenians in western Ukraine or the western malorussians in central Ukraine want their own state they can have it. The problem however is that the ruthenians of western Ukraine have taken control of the Kiev government and want to steal the territory of the states of the eastern malorussians and of the crimeans.
«A project that started nearly two centuries ago.»
That’s going a bit too far back, the current project was started by fascist Piłsudski around 1900:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheism
«Prometheism or Prometheanism (Polish: Prometeizm) was a political project initiated by Józef Piłsudski, statesman of the Second Polish Republic from 1918 to 1935. Its aim was to weaken the Russian Empire and its successor states, including the Soviet Union, by supporting nationalist independence movements among the major non-Russian peoples that lived within the borders of Russia and the Soviet Union. Between the World Wars, Prometheism and Piłsudski’s other concept, of an “Intermarium federation”, constituted two complementary geopolitical strategies for him and for some of his political heirs. […] Marshal Piłsudski, who as early as 1904, in a memorandum to the Japanese government, pointed out the need to employ, in the struggle against Russia, the numerous non-Russian nations that inhabited the basins of the Baltic, Black and Caspian Seas»
More recently the “Greater Ukraine” of the ruthenians was of course “sponsored” by the nazis (the real ones, not the ukrainian poor quality imitations):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenia
«In what in 1938 the French and Spanish press identified as “troublemaking” by the National Socialist government of Germany, there were calls in the German press for the independence of a greater Ukraine, which would include Ruthenia, parts of Hungary, the Polish Southeast including Lvov, the Crimea, and Ukraine, including Kyiv and Kharkiv.»
Not much has changed since 1938 as to that, the german government of today says the same, and keeps sending german weapons for the ruthenians to kill russians like for a few years after 1938.

Posted by: Blissex | Jul 21 2023 19:49 utc | 126

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 21 2023 18:30 utc |
True enough, but without an organization opposing imperialist war all that opposition remains atomized and impotent. If a movement were to develop, they’d have to report it at least to smear it.
The wage slaves here need a yellow vest like movement, but with a leadership with a broader, Olympian perspective on class, war and democratic rights. Oh and rooted in a hateful opposition to the two RC parties.
Considering the limits of online organizing, I think neighborhood and work place cells that actually meet in person would be a good start.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 21 2023 19:49 utc | 127

@gT #86:

During war time democratic liberties such as expressing one’s opinion should be curtailed, and it is war time in Russia now is it not?

No. Not de jure.
Which is one of the reasons, I suspect, Putin insists on calling the war the “SMO”—he wants life in Russia to continue normally as much as possible.
There has been only one Russian law passed since the start of the SMO that restricts speech: a law that penalizes “discrediting the Russian Armed Forces,” that is, spreading blatantly false statements about the Russian military (e.g., last year’s Ukrainian claim that “Russian soldiers gang-raped a one-year-old baby”).
Igor Girkin (“Igor Strelkov”) has been charged under Article 280, Part 2 of the Criminal Code (public calls for carrying out extremist activities, made over internet). So it’s not about his opinions, it’s about some “calls” he allegedly made. We’ll see how this plays out in court.

Posted by: S | Jul 21 2023 19:52 utc | 128

@-From Echo Chamber | Jul 21 2023 19:38 utc | 124

.. 1. First of all you have to look at where the inflation is conning ..

That’s a beside-effect. Do You’ve listened & be aware of what “numbers of” dead-shot guys on either RF/UKR soldiers the final amount is – still today – or at the final end?
The final end won’t come soon, may be late 2024 ..
Then, You might be announce a final “Monetary” result of that You’ve estimateded here in advance.
Just today, RF has a lot of problems to repell UKR actions on the frontlines, and have significabt problems to restore/re-fill its power sources of artillery!
So hope, RF can strike again – next week ..

Posted by: spare thruth | Jul 21 2023 19:56 utc | 129

Posted by: bevin | Jul 21 2023 15:10 utc | 20
It is also a battle between borrowers and savers bevin. Creditors gain borrowers lose. Borrowers like households who can’t pass on their increased cost of borrowing the same way businesses can.
Eventually, those who benefit from the interest rate increases, who typically have a lower marginal propensity to consume (how much they spend out of every extra ruble received), run out of things to buy and pocket the bonuses.
And eventually, the spending cuts from the debtors, particularly lower income mortgage holders, begins to dominate.
The problem is that when a nation reaches this point, given the delays in data publication etc, the damage is already done.
One always has to be careful when appraising a situation not to apply a ‘one-size-fits-all’ analysis.
In short – interest rate targeting is the devil. A carpet bombing approach to destruction. When a more nuanced approach is always required. A buffer stock of the employed would be far more effective. More spending not less on developing your own fiscal space that pushes out the threat of inflation further out on the horizon. That expands not decreases your productive capacity as a nation.
The “one interest rate to rule them all” is a mugs game. Generally used to trap nations not free them.
https://new-wayland.com/blog/mmt-basics-interest-rates/

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 21 2023 19:58 utc | 130

Posted by: gT | Jul 21 2023 18:43 utc | 106
Either: allowing Western equipment to be deployed suits Russia’s purpose better than destroying them in transit, or they don’t have the capability for the former but do for the latter.
One reason for the first idea is that tracking their progress, with enhanced ISR capabilities, uncovers the Ukrainians hidden logistical network for supporting such equipment. This data then can be used if and when it is most needed, I.e. shaping the battle space or preempting enemy activity. This future logistical strike capability might take precedence over delaying the equipments arrival, suggestive that the Russians are no longer concerned such deliveries pose a serious threat to ongoing/future operations. Remember the electrical infrastructure strikes largely took place when the Russians were struggling somewhat to integrate the newly mobilised troops and were recovering from the impact of the Ukrainian autumn offensives. Perhaps this ‘failure’ in interdiction is really an indicator of growing Russian confidence in the capabilities of their armed forces to deal with all eventualities, especially Western support, something that perhaps was lacking previously?

Posted by: Milites | Jul 21 2023 20:03 utc | 131

@113 Apollyon
OMG! Thanks for the info. But I guess the All-American California girl had to come from somewhere, historically speaking? Working girl or “working girl”? If the latter, I’d presume her kinfolk didn’t arrive on the Mayflower with the Puritans. And I know nothing about Mattel anyway.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 21 2023 20:09 utc | 132

@Biswapriya Purkayast #87:

Not because he or his Club Of Infuriated Patriots (whoever came up with that name needs to go lie down) have any credibility, but for precisely the opposite reason.

First of all, the Angry Patriots Club is not “his.” There are many people there with diverse backgrounds: monarchists, communists, Natsbols (Limonovites), Wagnerites, antifascists, etc. The only thing uniting them is their unhappiness with the way the SMO is prosecuted (pace/casualties). In fact, it is reported that among the people who wrote complaints to the police that led to Strelkov’s arrest were members of the club. So it’s not “his.”
Secondly, many people in the Angry Patriots Club do have credibility: they have fought or are currently fighting, or are engaged in supplying the front.

Posted by: S | Jul 21 2023 20:16 utc | 133

I have been thinking that maybe Mr. Putin has been waiting for the war in Ukraine to fade from the news media of the west before starting his much anticipated offensive…
Posted by: Boxwoodtree1 | Jul 21 2023 16:48 utc | 61
Like this?
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1682466259139715073?t=U-E0QXOolaV4cGsqbyJ2kw&s=09

Posted by: osi | Jul 21 2023 20:18 utc | 134

Quote “Russian Intelligence Service slams MI6 chief for asking Russians to spy for London”. Then why does Russia not sabotage england from within – there must be disgruntled ele. Ents in police state of england. After all this is what English pirates do to others. Ultimately MI6 HQ and chelte ham must be bomded to kill all English spies who have been plotting wars against Russia.
But Russian’s are too lazy to do that and they only react (that too not often) to Anglos atrocities on Russian interest.
Kill that Moore bas-rd.
Posted by: Sam | Jul 21 2023 19:12 utc | 114

Kerch bridge was bombed twice, the dam was blown up, and you can be sure the UK had a major role in those. Both actions warranting a strategic nuclear strike under normal circumstances (i.e. Russian elites not being traitors).
They could have at the very least sent a truck full of explosive down the Channel Tunnel — exactly what was done with the bridge the first time — and that will cripple the UK seriously, plus it can be done with plausible deniability. But no, the lives and comfort of Western Europeans are much more valuable to the Kremlin that the lives of Russians.

Without Strelkov, Mozgovoi, etal… there would have been no DonBass..
He knows that Putin snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in 2014-2015
BECAUSE….
Putin feared economic collapse engendered by CIA/MI6/NSA/World Bank/IMF/USFED
BECAUSE…..
At that time….. the Russian economy was vulnerable…. The hypersonics were on the drawing boards…
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jul 21 2023 19:25 utc | 119

It wasn’t really because of such considerations. Those are the retrospective excuses provided for decisions taken for other reasons.
They already got sanctioned over Crimea. Would they have been sanctioned even further if they took over the Donbass too? What is the difference? Ukraine’s territorial integrity was already violated. They could have taken over the whole country, annexed Novorussia, installed a puppet regime in the rest of the country, made it enter the Union State and cleared all the Banderites (which were a lot less powerful back then), and it is doubtful it would have resulted in much worse in terms of sanctions.
The reason it wasn’t done is that such an act would have meant an irreversible separation from the West. I keep explaining this here, but it keeps falling on dead ears because few people reading these pages have any real understanding of the internal political dynamics in Russia — Russia has been governed by traitors for 40 years now. People whose biggest dream was to be accepted as an equal part of the global oligarchic elite. In order to achieve that dream they sold out the country once in the late 1980s and broke it apart, which resulted in utter devastation of the kind almost never seen outside of the aftermath of a major war. The Great Depression in the US was a picnic in comparison. Putin was installed in 2000 because the situation had become just too degraded to be tolerable anymore, but a big part of his mission was to cement the position of that elite. The 1996 election, had it not been stolen, would have returned the communists in power, and at the very least something like the Belarussian system may have been installed (notice how there are no oligarchs in Belarus, only in Russian and the Ukraine), if not an outright return of the USSR (which is what the people wanted). The subsequent four years actually went even worse economically, plus there was the whole Chechnya mess. So you can imagine how dangerous the situation was from the perspective of the traitorous pro-Western elite. And indeed, while Putin disciplined some oligarchs, he largely left the post-Soviet elite untouched, and now nobody is demanding a return to the USSR — that option has been foreclosed on.
There is a strong patriotic elite inside Russia too, but it is a constant struggle with the pro-Western traitors and the patriots have never won that internal hidden war to this day.
Crimea was taken back in 2014 because there was no other option — it would have meant the NATO nuclear knife right at the throat of the Kremlin, so they had to act, for self-preservation sake. But now we know that even Crimea has been on the table in negotiations since then.
The SMO was started likely because a similar situation developed. We still don’t know what exactly happened, the suspicion is that it had something to do with nukes in Ukraine. But Putin very clearly didn’t want to do it. And recall his meeting with the oligarchs on the day of the invasion — how he was apologetic about there being no other option left and then reassuring them nothing will change in terms of relationships with the world. Well, that was an extremely ominous sign in retrospect regarding the future of the SMO — a lot had to change in terms of those relationships for the war to be won, and it didn’t. Commodities are still being exported to the West, and for peanuts too, even though cutting them off would totally cripple them; in the other direction come bombs, tanks and missiles. The war has been fought in this absurd self-defeating way ever since precisely because of the influence of that very powerful group of people who are dreaming about a return to the days of happy yachting around the world and regular weekend shopping in major Western cities for their mistresses.
Back in May things were looking up — serious strikes in the rear were carried out, rumors had it that Zaluzhny and Budanov had been killed, it seemed like the Kremlin was finally getting serious about the whole thing. But the last few weeks have reversed all that — the patriotic commanders in the army were all dismissed, and now they are going after the patriotic civilians dissenters too. So it very much appears that the traitors have gained up the upper hand in the internal fight. Precisely the opposite of what we were hoping for.
Meanwhile the Western dissident idiots cheering from the sidelines have no clue what is happening and are still praising the perfect wisdom and pure holiness of the Kremlin…

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 20:22 utc | 135

Posted by: Oui | Jul 21 2023 17:11 utc | 74
Hello @Oui, I took a look at the first link you shared, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has sacked his country’s ambassador to the UK.
Apparently, Vadym Prystaiko had recently criticised the president’s response to a row over gratitude for British military aid.
Mr Prystaiko said last week there had been a “little bit of sarcasm” in his president’s response, which he believed was “unhealthy”.

The Ambassador had been in his post in London since 2020 but on Friday Mr Zelensky issued a presidential decree announcing his sacking, saying he had also been removed as Ukraine’s representative to the International Maritime Organization.
I thought it was so simple but the beeb has me thinking… did Zelensky sack him for a comment on tv or opposition to the plans for the black sea? I don’t know, but I do hope the Ambassador wasn’t too upset. The day was going to contain such a proud moment! *wipes tear from eye
Mr Prystaiko was due to be at the event on Friday morning where Fifth Avenue was renamed Zelenskyy Avenue – but the ambassador was fired as he was in a car on the way to the Essex town, it is understood. The president’s name is officially spelt with a double y, but the single y spelling is now widely used.
Our first officially named shrine, & it’s spelt correctly. Well done Harlow, unlike the beeb who are too lazy & made up some lame excuse about single y “being widely used”.
@Oui thanks for sharing, I learnt to avoid Harlow & the Ambassador was also the rep at the IMO. Cheers!

Posted by: boon | Jul 21 2023 20:22 utc | 136

Either: allowing Western equipment to be deployed suits Russia’s purpose better than destroying them in transit, or they don’t have the capability for the former but do for the latter.
Posted by: Milites | Jul 21 2023 20:03 utc | 133

It’s neither of those — the act of cutting off those supply routes itself as well as the application of the kind of military-technical methods that will need to be used to accomplish that will mean an irreversible separation of Russia from the West. And in the Kremlin they are still hoping to make some kind of a deal. Even now, as absurd as that sounds.

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 20:26 utc | 137

Posted by: S | Jul 21 2023 20:16 utc | 136

.. Secondly, many people in the Angry Patriots Club do have credibility: they have fought or are currently fighting, or are engaged in supplying the front. ..

So may wonder why those “Patriots Club” memmers are still alive ..?
Where are some Snipers hired just today to “solve” that problems ..?
YOU/We/I are so smooth in a package that those violent approach is “forbidden”.
Pls. think what Biden/Blinken/Nuland/Hillary and their US-deputies have said via MSM via CNN.., etc.
When I am the aim of recipient to those “speeches”, I will react with a Sniper payed by my sampled earnings. Sure !

Posted by: spare thruth | Jul 21 2023 20:32 utc | 138

@Echo Chamber
Please stop wrapping your links in <b> </b> tags which makes them unclickable.
Also, instead of posting super-long links, use <a href=”LINK”>SHORT HUMAN-READABLE TITLE</a>.
For example, instead of this:

Looking at the Russian interest rate v Russian inflation rate in the following graph
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/russia-interest-rate@2x.png?s=rrefrate&v=202307211152V20230410&d1=20130723&url2=/russia/inflation-cpi

do this:

This graph shows Russian interest rate v Russian inflation rate.

Posted by: S | Jul 21 2023 20:33 utc | 139

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 21 2023 18:04 utc | 87
Girkin has been getting notice in western media (like Newsweak), and I think that is the source of the annoyance with him.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 21 2023 20:33 utc | 140

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 17:10 utc | 72
«Ukraine isn’t a real country, it is a fake made up thing designed to tear off the most important chunk of the Russian world from the motherland.»
Is Austria a real country? Is Canada a real country? Is Ireland a real country? Are Norway or Finland real countries? Is Switzerland a real country or four chunks of the french, german, italian, ladin world torn off from the motherland?

Ireland very much is, it has been its own separate ethnicity and a culture for nearly two millennia. It is in fact more ancient than England, which was only put together in the 10th century.
Austria in its current form makes no sense, but it was an independent empire for centuries.
Canada is fake. And not sovereign at all, even technically. Who is the head of state? Remember the events of 1975 in Australia — those tell you how much of real “countries” those places are.
Finland is a real country now. Norway too, though originally it was not.
That’s the thing — you can start as a fake country, but given a long enough time the situation on the ground transforms a fake nation into a real one. This is the process that Russia has to stop in Ukraine, and now is its last chance to do it. But it is not approaching the problem sufficiently seriously.

The modern idea is that a state is a voluntary association, as Putin has well said, and if the ruthenians in western Ukraine or the western malorussians in central Ukraine want their own state they can have it. The problem however is that the ruthenians of western Ukraine have taken control of the Kiev government and want to steal the territory of the states of the eastern malorussians and of the crimeans.
«A project that started nearly two centuries ago.»
That’s going a bit too far back, the current project was started by fascist Piłsudski around 1900:
Posted by: Blissex | Jul 21 2023 19:49 utc | 128

No, it started in the mid-19th century and was pushed by the Austrians, who then controlled Galicia. Pilsudski came later.

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 20:39 utc | 141

I think that even among Western journalists it’s now considered a plausible position that the AFU is for the next several years never going to have more tanks, tracked vehicles, artillery, mortars, missile launchers, air defense systems, and trained and motivated veteran troops, then it has right now, and that contrary to that, Russia is increasing its numbers with all those metrics.
And the icing on the cake is Russia’s vast superiority with planes, helicopters, long range missiles for strategic attacks, and even drone production. The cherry on top is Russia’s superiority with electronic warfare systems.
Formerly Ukraine had an advantage in intelligence gathering via satellite, and the processing thereof by way of analysts and computational arrays, thanks to America, but Russia easily caught up there.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jul 21 2023 20:40 utc | 142

@Giyane #112:

Some people say that Putin’s son is a Muslim…

Putin has two children, two daughters: Mariya and Yekaterina.

Posted by: S | Jul 21 2023 20:48 utc | 143

Posted by: bevin | Jul 21 2023 15:10 utc | 20
Thanks for this insight. All is not what it seems on both sides it would appear.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 21 2023 20:51 utc | 144

A further “result” of this RF/UKR-NATO conflict is not yet in sught.
RF is recovering and re-fill its devices, UKR is pushing more & more “un-educated, unexperienced guys” registered & kept by streets & with Volunteers of Poland + AUKUS.
This war UKR-NATO against Russia is not yet finished for a long time, beyond 2030..
Pld. help to “eliminate” the responsibilties like Gates, Rockefeller, all ICF-guys, etc.
That’s it !

Posted by: spare thruth | Jul 21 2023 20:52 utc | 145

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2023 17:14 utc | 75
Lol which would imply massive coordination between the various mainstream media companies.
Which is not far off from what many people here believe how the MSM works.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 21 2023 16:30 utc | 50
It wouldn’t make a difference if they did admit it. The same people who were wagging the blueyellow nazi rag on their Twitter profiles a year ago will have forgotten the existence of Ukranazistan a year from now, just as they have long since forgotten the existence of Syria, which they had been agitating to invade, and are quickly forgetting the existence of Afghanistan.
It’s already been a year. People like you were saying last year that they would all forget. And there wasn’t as much support for Syrian opposition movements as there is now for Ukraine, because of the movements’ fractured nature, and no support for invasion.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 21 2023 18:30 utc | 97
The only reason the resistance is “silent” is because BigLie Media won’t report it.
The “resistance” gets coverage, noting that US opposition to supporting Ukraine gets increasingly intertwined with the right wing neo-Fascism of Trump and the GOP.
Posted by: Comandante | Jul 21 2023 16:06 utc | 44
It literally went from “we all will die u less we vax everyone” on top of front news pages daily to…..
Poof gone. All gone and scrubbed from news media.

Maybe because we pretty much did vax everyone. Or nearly everyone while the rest died off.
Posted by: james | Jul 21 2023 15:25 utc | 26
they mention in the video of russias success of the attacks too… as a person who watches cnn, do they mention this is in response to the attack on the crimea bridge?
Yes, the MSM characterizes the bombings as a “response” a lot. But people here said that was a bad thing; that the bombings were an expected continuation of Russia’s overall plan. Instead, the MSM is playing the bombings as a revenge move from Russia. That Simplicious substack claimed the Kerch bridge bombing was a propaganda failure. It was obvious from the start that the damage this time wasn’t all that great. But then Russia followed will all these bombings of food reserves, feeding into the villain meme. I think those bombings are giving Ukraine the “propaganda victory” it wanted from the bridge.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 21 2023 20:58 utc | 146

“Maybe because we pretty much did vax everyone. Or nearly everyone while the rest died off.”
Pretty much this statement is bullshit. Not only did we not vaccinate most people in the world but only about 1% of the nonvaccinated died.

Posted by: Comandante | Jul 21 2023 21:03 utc | 147

@ Inkan1969 | Jul 21 2023 20:58 utc | 150
another key aspect of the motive for the bombing was it was specific to odessa – the grain port… russia is saying the west is incapable of negotiating ( see grain deal agreement).. nato – usa lead dog – did honour it, and they are clearly incapable of honouring much of anything, other then money to their military contracters and death to ukrainians – although they don’t publicly say the last part – that is indeed what it is.. … when you say something and don’t honour what you say – there are consequences…. these are some of them… no deal.. fine..

Posted by: james | Jul 21 2023 21:04 utc | 148

Milites | Jul 21 2023 20:03 utc | 133

One reason for the first idea is that tracking their progress, with enhanced ISR capabilities, uncovers the Ukrainians hidden logistical network for supporting such equipment. This data then can be used if and when it is most needed, I.e. shaping the battle space or preempting enemy activity. This future logistical strike capability might take precedence over delaying the equipments arrival, suggestive that the Russians are no longer concerned such deliveries pose a serious threat to ongoing/future operations.

⚡ Superbe ! 😈

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jul 21 2023 21:05 utc | 149

A frozen conflict in Ucraine would be nice for the US, but the Russians are not biting.
So the moment Ukraine throws in the towel and surrenders is when the US has to take the decision: send in the US army or accept defeat.

Posted by: Passerby | Jul 21 2023 21:08 utc | 150

No, the US will just order its Polish satraps to send their troops first.
The average Pole can imagine no greater pleasure than an American to pat him on the head and call him a good dog. If that will somehow spite Russia, even better!

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jul 21 2023 21:11 utc | 151

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 21 2023 15:43 utc | 35
LOL and ditto x10
We’ve had our moments but love your work.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 21 2023 21:14 utc | 152

Ukraine the “propaganda victory” it wanted from the bridge.
Mind games … all about perception. Making Russia the villain has been NATO policy for over two decades … re: Ivo Daalder, Atlantic Council, John Kerry and Gen. Breedlove: making Russia a pariah state. Simply a Goebbels trick of repeating the same lie … there was always going to be a military conflict … Joe Biden is a repeat offender of interventions and losing the fight. A coward to use the Ukraine as a proxy in the war of NATO and UK/US.
Zelenskyy thought he could ship grain w/o participation of Russia. In clear terms, Putin said never. In coming year goal of Russia will be to cut Ukraine off from any port or coastline to the Black Sea. Zelenskyy already lost the Azov Sea entry … worse than Poroshenko. Zelenskyy’s future is bleak.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 21 2023 21:17 utc | 153

Posted by: Comandante | Jul 21 2023 21:03 utc | 151
Pretty much this statement is bullshit. Not only did we not vaccinate most people in the world but only about 1% of the nonvaccinated died.
I thought you were just talking about the US, where the rate appears to be 81%. People here have already pointed out that US media greatly undercovers important international stories, like the covid situation in other countries.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 21 2023 21:20 utc | 154

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 21 2023 15:54 utc | 41
The definition of Ukraine since the 90s has been a black hole of everything: anything that goes in disappears, everything that comes out is black.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 21 2023 21:23 utc | 155

… send in the US army or accept defeat.
Will never happen, especially in an election year. No appetite by US citizens to see body bags coming home from a foreign nation no American can locate on a globe.
Only risk a dumb Poland opening a new front on border with Belarus. Somehow looking for a false flag attack to trigger Article 5.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 21 2023 21:24 utc | 156

Posted by: Feral Finster | Jul 21 2023 21:11 utc | 155
N

.. the US will just order its Polish satraps to send their troops first. ..

The Polish army won’t do nothing – as far it’s not attacked.
If Polish “guys” (listen its President today!) want to attack anywhome neighbours like Belarus, their stands the newly created Wagners – be careful.
All speculation. – listen to the newest infos – you can listen to ..

Posted by: spare thruth | Jul 21 2023 21:28 utc | 157

The reason it wasn’t done is that such an act would have meant an irreversible separation from the West. I keep explaining this here, but it keeps falling on dead ears because few people reading these pages have any real understanding of the internal political dynamics in Russia — Russia has been governed by traitors for 40 years now. People whose biggest dream was to be accepted as an equal part of the global oligarchic elite. In order to achieve that dream they sold out the country once in the late 1980s and broke it apart, which resulted in utter devastation of the kind almost never seen outside of the aftermath of a major war. The Great Depression in the US was a picnic in comparison. Putin was installed in 2000 because the situation had become just too degraded to be tolerable anymore, but a big part of his mission was to cement the position of that elite. The 1996 election, had it not been stolen, would have returned the communists in power, and at the very least something like the Belarussian system may have been installed (notice how there are no oligarchs in Belarus, only in Russian and the Ukraine), if not an outright return of the USSR (which is what the people wanted). The subsequent four years actually went even worse economically, plus there was the whole Chechnya mess. So you can imagine how dangerous the situation was from the perspective of the traitorous pro-Western elite. And indeed, while Putin disciplined some oligarchs, he largely left the post-Soviet elite untouched, and now nobody is demanding a return to the USSR — that option has been foreclosed on.
I don’t see any difference between the fears you cite, and the reality of today…
EXCEPT….
Had Russia acted in 2014-2015 20,000 people would not have been killed by Ukie shelling… The war would have lasted weeks…. not monthe/years…
Regardless…
If Putin can find a job for Prigozhin who led an insurrection..
He can find a job for Strelkov… who is frustrated at the carnage he hoped to avoid…
AND…
What better job than heading a PMC charged with cutting Ukraine’s connection to NATO via
a charge south along the Polish border to the Carpathian Mts…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jul 21 2023 21:32 utc | 158

Chris N @ 30
Interestingly CBC ran a piece the other day suggesting peace negotiations since neither Russia nor Ukraine are winning. The narrative is shifting.
Response: Good observation about the narrative shifting. When the main stream media starts telling the truth about Ukraine not doing so well on the battlefield, we can be assured that the narrative is shifting.

Posted by: young | Jul 21 2023 21:40 utc | 159

Neofeudalfuture @ 41
There’s also a big push to setup training facilities and production facilities in ukraine so were witnessing the abandonment of ukraine by the west. Like the Vietnamation phase of the US pullout from Vietnam.
After all if ukraine won’t be the battering ram what use is it? It’s a black hole of resources.
Response: We are seeing the beginning of the abandonment of Ukraine by the West. How fast that abandonment actually is will be reflected by AFU battlefield loses.
It’s not so much that Ukraine won’t be the battering ram. It’s that the battering ram is proving ineffective and too costly for the West to continue to use it.
The West now knows, without any doubt, that they will not be able to take Russia down through their proxy war with Ukraine. They will have to find another means.

Posted by: young | Jul 21 2023 21:52 utc | 160

shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 17:15 utc | 77,78

Our government, unable to achieve a military defeat of Ukraine on the battlefields, decided to act on the principle: “Beat your own people so that others are afraid!”

Why do you care to score revenge points on the battlefield? Everyone knows Russia can flatten any part of Kiev it wants, there’s no need to prove this any more. Reacting to terrorism by counterterrorism (against civilians) comes across as childish and immature, or as a testimony of helplessness (like many of Ukraine’s actions, or like Palestinians “retaliating” against Israel by firing their homemade rockets). Putin prefers to score in the international arena, and he has been doing well at that – while the Empire of Lies expose themselves to anyone who’s watching as the lunatics that they are.
For those who are concerned about the slow speed of the SMO:
(1)
major offensives (“big arrows”) are no longer feasible in the age of drones. Any large military unit, if kept together, would become a fat target for enemy artillery. Also, minefields are playing a major role in slowing down any offensive. Waterways (and elevated railways) are more of an obstacle than they used to be – you can’t just build a bridge, or ponton bridge, and hope to use it while in the enemy’s firing range.
(2)
Putin shares none of our euphoria at Ukraine suffering high KIA losses – he knows most of them are ethnic Russians forcibly recruited by Kiev. This may be a factor that renders him “unable to achieve a military defeat of Ukraine” at a reasonable price.
(3)
Imho, Putin is ready to settle for the 4 oblasts that voted to become Russian. He does not want to raise the territorial stakes, in order to facilitate any future negotiations. He is waiting for NATO or the White House to come to its senses.
(4)
Putin knows that the waiting game is more destructive to the enemy’s morale than any amount of fierce fighting
(5)
he might also be aiming, as one barfly suggested, at saving “the best” for US election time.

Posted by: grunzt | Jul 21 2023 21:54 utc | 161

Posted by: young | Jul 21 2023 21:40 utc | 164

… Good observation about the narrative shifting. When the main stream media starts telling the truth about Ukraine not doing so well on the battlefield, we can be assured that the narrative is shifting. ..

Yes – what the narrative looks like, it’s shifting anyway- but whereelse – and WHEN ? – we can listing the truth behind hat scene?
NO CNANCE TODAY !
Give You a Colt for Yourself (not recommended!), or give it to the some of responsibilties You ever have heared and liked b< Your heart (Gates, Nuland, Biden, Blinken, Rockefeller Foundation, 9/11 Spezies Texas Guy.. etc.)

Posted by: spare thruth | Jul 21 2023 22:06 utc | 162

Milites | Jul 21 2023 20:03 utc | 133
One reason for the first idea is that tracking their progress, with enhanced ISR capabilities, uncovers the Ukrainians hidden logistical network for supporting such equipment. This data then can be used if and when it is most needed, I.e. shaping the battle space or preempting enemy activity. This future logistical strike capability might take precedence over delaying the equipments arrival, suggestive that the Russians are no longer concerned such deliveries pose a serious threat to ongoing/future operations.

Letting UA waste time and resources on transport is not bad either.

Posted by: scanalyse | Jul 21 2023 22:09 utc | 163

My favorite thing about the Reddit version of the war is the following type of headlines:
1. 140% of all attempted missile strikes perfectly shot down! Zero hit, and if any did hit they hit hospitals and children.
2. Despite shooting down more than 100% of all missile strikes, Russia destroying stuff is a war crime. And they killed a child.

Posted by: Thomas Sharpe | Jul 21 2023 22:13 utc | 164

Posted by: S | Jul 21 2023 20:33 utc | 142
Thanks for your help with that. Very much appreciated.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 21 2023 22:21 utc | 165

Imho, Putin is ready to settle for the 4 oblasts that voted to become Russian. He does not want to raise the territorial stakes, in order to facilitate any future negotiations. He is waiting for NATO or the White House to come to its senses.
Putin will raise the territorial stake by closing off the Ukraine from the Black Sea completely. Under Joe Biden, there is zero chance for negotiations, proven by history as VP under Obama 2009-2016 and his term as president. Any settlement will mean Ukraine can become a member of NATO. Russia won’t permit that as this will be a clear existential threat. Once the war started in February 2024, all options for a diplomatic solution were left untouched by the Western allies in NATO and UK/US.
The military importance of Crimea and the Black Sea is historic as Russia and Türkiye know. The West and the US are alien to the diverse cultures and is only interested in fossil fuel and minerals of the region. Losing Afghanistan and the War on Terror, the US lost its foothold in Central Asia. The EU has been enlisted to foot the bill for economic recovery of Ukraine. The protest across Europe will start in 2024 … election of a new EU parliament and a number of nations will be hit by austerity measures and high taxes. Higher cost of living and the start of an economic recession across Europe.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 21 2023 22:28 utc | 166

Aside:
Tony Bennett – Fly Me To The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdJ0zMv4N4o

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 21 2023 22:31 utc | 167

Pretty much this statement is bullshit. Not only did we not vaccinate most people in the world but only about 1% of the nonvaccinated died.
Posted by: Comandante | Jul 21 2023 21:03 utc | 151
A lot less than 1%died.
And the mortality was confined in the main to the 65 plus age cohorts.
Obesity and co morbidities were significantly represented in the mortality figures as well.

Posted by: jpc | Jul 21 2023 22:36 utc | 168

Jul 21 2023 22:09 utc | 168
‘never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake’
either sun tzu or napoleon or both.

Posted by: paddy | Jul 21 2023 22:39 utc | 169

Acc-to :
Gates, Nuland, Biden, Blinken, Rockefeller Foundation, 9/11 Spezies Texas Guys, and at the latest noticed by the US-RAND-Paper.. etc. ,,
We have understood the WAR UKR-NATO against Russia very well.
NATO: Try to destroy Russia ! You won’t win , in any case even Russian losses!

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 21 2023 22:39 utc | 170

“This does not mean the USA and its NATO vassals are giving up. They can’t afford to give up. They have to take Russia down otherwise they will quickly lose the world reserve currency status of the United States Dollar (USD). If that happens, you would not be able to recognize the USA 3 months later.
So, the USA will shift to other means to take down the Russian bear. If those means are nuclear, then most likely Russia is already aware.
Either the USA will take the bear down or it will go down itself trying. This is the snare that the USA is in. And it can’t get out.
Posted by: young | Jul 21 2023 14:59 utc | 11”
1. While actively reducing the U.S. dollar as a Reserve Currency is part of the cooperative nature of Russia/China strategy, it is not necessary to use another currency for a Reserve status. By reducing the use of U.S. dollars in international transactions, the reduce demand for U.S. dollars for payments means less value of the U.S. dollar generally. This does not mean there won’t be ups and downs in relative value over time, but it does mean the U.S will have to learn to work and produce stuff again (actually good for the American People) instead of the Exorbitant Privilege of paying for other people’s stuff with printed U.S. dollars.
2. to the question of rising interest rates in Russia. To the extent that Russia, correctly and morally, keeps money creation (conjuring/printing)to a minimum, capital accumulation from domestic savings will respond to rising interest rates. As will Foreign dollars. I suspect with an active economy and war demand, savings for investment is the goal. Not so much, inflation prevention.
3. Again, aside from the unthinking cheerleading from either side, Ukraine is on Russia’s border, Russia is by far the larger nation in resources, including energy and people, Russia appears to be well-advanced technically, and seems quietly pleased to be honing their skills on all the Western stuff sent over for Target Practice. Nobody knows the future, but if Vegas or London allowed betting on the war, Ukraine would be picked as a 10:1 odds down, loser.

Posted by: kupkee | Jul 21 2023 22:47 utc | 171

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 20:26 utc | 140
There is of course another long term explanation – they need these rails and bridges to allow them to advance on Poland and Germany when the time is ripe – just as they used them in WWII.
I am only half joking Shadow. Destruction of infrastructure you may need in some foreseeable future is not wise. Ideally Russia wants a friendly neutral Ukraine and/or to incorporate large sections into Russia. To blow up infrastructure you hope to become your own is a little stupid. Also you want friendly citizens or you have a nightmare insurgency on your hands- which is what NATO expected.
You are smart enough to know this but as always you keep up the ra ra ra war now because you are still in the US mindset – Russia will have its new Afghanistan and we will bleed them dry.
But Putin does not take the bait. Many silly idiots in Russia may also think this because many military types only see military solutions not diplomatic ones. Some of them may in fact be traitors – who knows, but they are thick headed morons.

Posted by: watcher | Jul 21 2023 22:49 utc | 172

Not the New York Times ….
China, Russia kick off joint military exercise in Sea of Japan
Sea-air integrated drills to safeguard regional peace, stability, strengthen cooperation
By Liu Xuanzun and Guo Yuandan
Published: Jul 20, 2023 09:29 PM
In the coming days, the exercise will also include deterrence and repulsion, roadstead defense and mock confrontational battles, CCTV reported.
Scheduled to be held from Thursday to Sunday and featuring the use of live ammunition, the Northern/Interaction-2023 joint exercise will feature anti-submarine missions, naval combat, sea and air escort of ships, guarding and defending of detachments of ships when moored in an unprotected roadstead, and ensuring the security of communications in and over the Sea of Japan, the Defense Ministry of Russia said in a press release on Thursday.
Under the theme of safeguarding strategic maritime routes, the exercise will practice basic combat procedures against aerial, surface and underwater targets, Li Yaqiang, a Chinese naval expert, told the Global Times.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202307/1294773.shtml
The tectonic plates, whatever about the ‘narrative’, are shifting.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 21 2023 22:50 utc | 173

grunzt@166….according to Mr Putin, in his speech today, no one from NATO or the US will get any part of the Ukraine. Hopefully his plan has less death and more negotiation.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 21 2023 22:50 utc | 174

fake james… reported..
Posted by: james | Jul 21 2023 15:53 utc | 40
That post referring to RT wasn’t you either was it?

Posted by: David G Horsman | Jul 21 2023 22:55 utc | 175

The Canadian CBC continues to sell war, soft-headed propaganda that the Ukrainians are worthy victims and Russian are not. The typical NATO propaganda, repetitive assertions Russia is run by criminals that must be defeated. Western hubris reflects societies misplaced colonial attitude, NATO states are narcissist & nationalist. A western general consciousness where the idea that everyone and everything is exploitable for the purpose to reinforce self fulling wishes. Reality says otherwise, the west is in rapid decline. The US/NATO narrative is lost, unfocused and ignorant to the cost of war with Russia via their chosen proxy leader, agent Zelensky. The political leadership approval across NATO states is very low, most NATO leaders are in political trouble at home. They’ve lost the bet, gambling their nations futures on a war with Russia that it will take decades to rebuild the peace.

Posted by: Bill Miner | Jul 21 2023 22:55 utc | 176

Echo Chamber, Patroklos and others.
The Russian Central Bank’s increase in interest rate to 8.5% seems to me absolutely indicative of classic neo-liberal economics. Which as Clara E Mattei, in her book The Capital Order, argues originated in the British Treasury in 1920, and found its first expression in the Geddes Axe legislation which dramatically cut wages, increased unemployment and efected the transfer of a large share of the wage share of the GNP to profits and investment.
Mattei points out that the other major laboratory in which neo-liberalism was tested was Italy under the fascists-where finance was left in the hands of liberal laissez faire economists.
She shows that the cult of Central Bank ‘independence’ (or control by capitalists) was fostered by the Treasury in the 1920s and is designed to protect the economy from democratic inteference or influence.
Mattei follows the employment of ‘Austerity’ policies, to defend Capitalism from democracy, through the post war era to the present day. Her final chapter deals with the importance neoliberals gave to the project of transforming Russia into a model of their policies. It followed in the wake of Chile, under Pinochet, Thatcher’s Britain and Indonesia after Sukarno.
The links between fascism and the classical economics of neo-liberalism are very clear. The effect of the Central Bank’s dominance over policy is to endure the transfer of wealth from the many to the few. An increase in interest rates is designed to further that process.
According to Mattei the poverty rate in Russia rose from 2% of the population in 1988 to more than 40% by the mid-nineties.
Significantly the situation against which the 1920s neo-liberals were reacting so strongly was that, during the 1914-18 war in both Britain and Italy working class living standards had risen quickly. Government had intervened in the economy, nationalised large sectors, regulated hours and wages and made peace deals with rank and file workers movements. As a result by 1919 the very future of capitalism was in doubt- the Russian Revolution being both part of the wider movement born of the war and an example of the new possibilities the many faceted failure of capitalism has illuminated.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 21 2023 23:02 utc | 177

There is of course another long term explanation – they need these rails and bridges to allow them to advance on Poland and Germany when the time is ripe – just as they used them in WWII.
I am only half joking Shadow. Destruction of infrastructure you may need in some foreseeable future is not wise. Ideally Russia wants a friendly neutral Ukraine and/or to incorporate large sections into Russia. To blow up infrastructure you hope to become your own is a little stupid. Also you want friendly citizens or you have a nightmare insurgency on your hands- which is what NATO expected.
Posted by: watcher | Jul 21 2023 22:49 utc | 178

There is a slight problem here — that excuse does not work regarding the border crossings. The damage to the overall railway system can be really severe, but the border crossings can be fixed if you don’t bomb them continuously. So you can have intact logistics inside Ukraine, but sealed borders. Which also solves the problem to a large extent. That hasn’t been done either.

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 23:03 utc | 178

(1)
major offensives (“big arrows”) are no longer feasible in the age of drones. Any large military unit, if kept together, would become a fat target for enemy artillery. Also, minefields are playing a major role in slowing down any offensive. Waterways (and elevated railways) are more of an obstacle than they used to be – you can’t just build a bridge, or ponton bridge, and hope to use it while in the enemy’s firing range.

Correct. Which is why it is extremely important to:
1) Maximize the gains during the surprise initial phase
2) Cripple logistics so that the enemy is left without drones and artillery
But what happened? They went in with pathetically insufficient forces and have not done much to block the flow of western weapons into Ukraine

(2)
Putin shares none of our euphoria at Ukraine suffering high KIA losses – he knows most of them are ethnic Russians forcibly recruited by Kiev. This may be a factor that renders him “unable to achieve a military defeat of Ukraine” at a reasonable price.

If he knows that, he better start acting like it. It is precisely the current SloMO format that is killing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians (and when it’s all said and done, Russian KIAs will be in six figures too).

(3)
Imho, Putin is ready to settle for the 4 oblasts that voted to become Russian. He does not want to raise the territorial stakes, in order to facilitate any future negotiations. He is waiting for NATO or the White House to come to its senses.

If he does that, he needs to be hanged, drawn and quartered in the middle of the Red Square.

(4)
Putin knows that the waiting game is more destructive to the enemy’s morale than any amount of fierce fighting
(5)
he might also be aiming, as one barfly suggested, at saving “the best” for US election time.
Posted by: grunzt | Jul 21 2023 21:54 utc | 166

H/Copium post-hoc rationalizations.

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 23:08 utc | 179

Putin just read out the Riot Act to Poland. As clear as can be. The same as when he did in 2021 to the ukraine.
‘Vladimir Putin: I cannot but comment on what has just been said and the reports that have appeared in the press about plans to create some kind of so-called Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian connection. That is, we are not talking about some kind of gathering of mercenaries – there are enough of them there, and they are being destroyed – but about a regular, well-knit, equipped military formation, which is planned to be used for operations on the territory of Ukraine. Including for supposedly ensuring the security of modern Western Ukraine, and in fact, if you call a spade a spade, for the subsequent occupation of these territories. After all, the prospect is obvious – if Polish units enter, for example, Lviv or other territories of Ukraine, then they will remain there. And they will remain forever.
https://t.me/dimsmirnov175/51540’
https://t.me/vicktop55/16184
The rest of it is worth reading.
Welcome to the decommunisation and denazification and dissolution Poland. Bye bye.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 21 2023 23:14 utc | 180

Today, the world is looking on this UKR-NATO against RUSSIA conflict PR-machine . ..
That depends on some out-going agreements, as signed by either of theses states involved anyway.
RF has started a war that never ends unless RF has reached its goals.
That is for sure ! Whether NATO bombs dtill falling on Donetz (Kindergarden, ..) or what else.
Florida – near Cuba – is a very nice place to recover ..
California – San-Frisco,L.A. etc. is a very nice place to “over-live” – or not? – if an RF-Poseidon is under-way .. Your pool ..?

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 21 2023 23:17 utc | 181

@shadowbanned 110
Of course Artëmovsk wouldn’t be followed by a Popasnaya style flowering, because the situations are completely different. West of Artëmovsk are the heights of Chasov Yar, heavily fortified by the nazis, which overlooks the road to Konstantinovka.
The actual advance is to the North, towards Kupyansk and Krasni Liman. Abandoning these last September can absolutely be blamed on Putin not announcing a mobilisation before he couldn’t possibly postpone it any longer. But it is impossible to deny that Russia is clawing back territory in that direction while around Artëmovsk it is still adequately holding ground; the Ukranazis are nowhere near retaking the town and are hemorrhaging blood in the attempt.
It was not just Strelkov who said the initial invasion was botched, either. Even humble trolls like me said so as soon as Putin decided to withdraw from the Kiev front without securing victory.
@Dr Oprisko 119
Strelkov signed up for a volunteer group last year and the nazis immediately put a price on his head. What happened? Nothing. He spent a couple of weeks around the border inside pre war Russian territory and then went back to Moscow because the volunteer group itself didn’t like our trust him.
[Nice to see everyone finally waking up to Inkanazi 1969. I told you this character was a nazi long ago. ]

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jul 21 2023 23:20 utc | 182

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 21 2023 23:03 utc | 186
Russia has obviously been very, very cautious about wasting ammunition. Those borders are a long way off and to attack them effectively you would need ship based missiles. I assume that the Russians have done a calculation- more effective to take out a pile of armaments in the east close to short range artillery which is not in short supply.
In any case while Odessa remains active, the serious stuff was probably coming in by sea or air. This is about to change.
I have long been of the view that although the original SMO in Feb/March 2022 was successful in many, many ways, there were two big disappointments for Russia which must have affected and partially derailed their strategy.
The first was Karkov, which had been very pro Russian but did not fall quickly.
The second was the very disappointing outcome of the efforts in Nikolayev and Odessa. In terms of Nikolayev, Wyatt from DPA, commented on about day 10 of the SMO that he thought the people in charge of the Nikolayev front were incompetent. I noted it then and nothing since has changed my mind.
I feel that both Kharkov and Odessa are essential targets for Russia and the war will not end until they are secured. Negotiation might be possible in other areas, but not in those two. I include Nikolayev also but I suppose it could be a sort of negotiation option – leaves Ukraine with one port outlet, but one that is vulnerable if they let NATO in.

Posted by: watcher | Jul 21 2023 23:23 utc | 183

Ukraine séries is becoming boring… This last season was a disaster, a boring disaster. I hope Hollywood is sending it’s best script writers to Ukraine to make the next season more exciting and prevent that series from total failure. Please some bazazz!

Posted by: Virgile | Jul 21 2023 23:27 utc | 184

Never engage in a war with Russia, like trying to hold back a raging river with a single hand. Russia is like a colossal titan, with a landmass stretching out like an endless ocean, its military power standing tall like an impenetrable fortress, and its determination burning bright like an unyielding flame.
History has shown that engaging in a conflict with Russia is like stepping into a treacherous battlefield, where the battles stretch out like never-ending rivers, leaving behind a trail of devastation. The nation’s resilience is as strong as a towering oak tree, unyielding in the face of adversity. Its ability to mobilise its resources quickly is like a lightning bolt, striking with swift precision. Together, these qualities make it a formidable opponent on the battlefield, as fierce as a roaring lion. Furthermore, like a roaring bear in a dense forest, Russia’s geopolitical influence and alliances have the potential to ignite the conflict, transforming it into a perilous undertaking for any adversary.
FREE BEER AT THE BAR – THEYRE ON ME – USE CODE ‘T-92’

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jul 21 2023 23:41 utc | 185

the 2024 playbook could very well be this:
“Robert F. Kennedy Angrily Responds To Stacey Plaskett’s Accusations”
4 min. from the House Hearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnPbd-xuroE
As people have pointed out for months the 2016 and 2020 agenda will be repeated.
Simply by…repetition. As if there had been NOTHING whatsoever.
What Plaskett is doing is simply madness or evil or both.
It for sure is self-assurance of being in power.
And if blocking out a war they manufactured originally they as well will simply blank it.
(Remember “Wag The Dog” – Anything goes.)

Posted by: AG | Jul 21 2023 23:43 utc | 186

Breaker 1-9,
Hal Turner reporting Poland is on the cusp of seizing parts of western Ukraine, along with a chinch of Belarus under the NATO umbrella.
It appears that shit is going to hit the proverbial fan as we know it.
Over and out.

Posted by: Lt.Gen_Breedluvv | Jul 21 2023 23:46 utc | 187

Posted by: watcher | Jul 21 2023 23:23 utc | 191

.. I have long been of the view that although the original SMO in Feb/March 2022 was successful in many, many ways, there were two big disappointments for Russia which must have affected and partially derailed their strategy. ..

If a war is an intelligent “war’ it’s performed by a intelligent army offivers having learned their “business”. that’s not performed on either sides.
New, clever strategically thinking guys (esp. Generals) should give an alternative advanced go-straight combat solution that does not suck in the ground (Videos a lot available).

Posted by: spare_truth | Jul 21 2023 23:46 utc | 188

What I do not understand is why Ukraine is still desperately wasting its forces and munitions trying to take back Soledar and Artyomovsk/Bakhmut.
It seems highly suspicious.
Is there something really big there that Russia has not found yet, posssibly among the labyrinths of secret underground tunnels that could expose something rather sinister concerning the US/Ukraine/or US president?

Posted by: George | Jul 22 2023 0:06 utc | 189

From the time I started to observe politics and rule of law in this United States more and more I have become aware that it’s been a corrupt and undemocratic state ever since it became a nation and unfortunately is not only not getting better, in fact it’s becoming dangerously worst. Just watch this next coming elections. The gloves are off and the deep state no longer is worried of exposed election fraud voter suppression and outright exchange of ballots.

Posted by: Kooshy | Jul 22 2023 0:07 utc | 190

VP Agnew Was corrupt and they let him leave the country. Joe Biden was and is corrupt and becomes a presidential martial at any expense even by suppressing Sanders voters why? Because the more corrupt you are the easier for the deep state to control you, this a mafia system country and is ruled as such. Started as with a committee of oligarchs and is still ruled by the same system.

Posted by: Kooshy | Jul 22 2023 0:18 utc | 191

Some videos for today.
Another big group of Ukrainian soldiers surrendered:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-07-21_02-17-41:8
Russian forces fire shells containing leaflets encouraging Ukrainian soldiers to surrender:
https://rutube.ru/video/2d7738da0bbc2a645369d347875b265a/
Russian airborne troops seize enemy trench:
https://rutube.ru/video/440a4371ee4a5cfe86efa801a24b4119/
Kiev regime military equipment keeps getting blown up:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-07-21_15-53-58:f
Russian MLRS fires on the enemy near Kupyansk:
https://rutube.ru/video/d2de2bf0a51bc113468c05ada316a638/
Russian strike destroys enemy assault group:
https://rutube.ru/video/d8d2cace7e56fe369dbbeed6f71cbe03/

Posted by: Nate | Jul 22 2023 0:34 utc | 192

Ahenobarbus | Jul 21 2023 19:49 utc | 129–
Agreed. Occupy Wall Street was a start but didn’t have any follow up. After it, the Divide and Rule really hit high gear and has yet to have a spar stuck into that gear work. Used Escobar’s column as a foil for my current substack, “Onward to Destiny”. Can’t miss these exciting times.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2023 0:35 utc | 193

@shadowbanned #138
The reason it wasn’t done is that such an act would have meant an irreversible separation from the West. I keep explaining this here, but it keeps falling on dead ears because few people reading these pages have any real understanding of the internal political dynamics in Russia — Russia has been governed by traitors for 40 years now.
So what is going on? Who is Putin serving, or which factions is he caught between, what is his goal in Ukraine? What does he expect from the West? Do you think he is one of the traitors? If not, could you sketch out the internal terrain a little more for us?
I have always been assuming that most of the descriptions of Putin as both Saint and Genius firmly in command of a united Russian people facing up to the Wicked West are, at best, over-simplification but lack sufficient information to go much deeper than that. Would appreciate a more detailed description from your POV and suspect others would as well. In other words, not so much about what’s now happening tactically in Ukraine etc, but what’s going on overall, the bigger picture, viz Putin, RF, the traitors, the patriots, ties to the liberals, Western power networks etc.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 0:42 utc | 194

From Stalinism to the ‘Most Avoidable War in History’
Natylie Baldwin interviews Soviet and Russian specialist Geoffrey Roberts on Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine, Europe’s role, Stalin and World War II.
Roberts: My agreement with Ray McGovern and John Mearsheimer is far greater than any particular differences of interpretation.
The most important point about the Russia-Ukraine war is that it was the most avoidable war in history. It could have been avoided by Ukraine implementing the Minsk agreements. It could have been avoided by NATO halting its build-up of Ukraine’s armed forces. It could have been avoided by a positive U.S. response to Putin’s common security proposals of December 2021. Putin pulled the trigger but it was Ukraine and the West that loaded the gun.
[Related: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked and John Pilger: War in Europe & the Rise of Raw Propaganda and Ukraine Crisis Should Have Been Avoided]
When the West stonewalled his security proposals, Putin had a choice — continue with what I call his militarised diplomacy, or take military action to force acceptance of his demands. He chose war because diplomacy didn’t seem to be working and because he thought it was better to fight now rather than later — hence my characterisation of the invasion decision as a choice for preventative war.
I disagreed with his decision for three reasons: (1) notwithstanding Ukraine’s progressive military build-up, a dire existential threat to Russia was emergent rather than imminent; (2) the chance of diplomacy succeeding was slim but not non-existent; and (3) going to war was an enormously dangerous and destructive step to take, not just for Russia and Ukraine but for Europe and the rest of the world.
In retrospect, it seems clear that Putin’s decision for war was also based on a series of miscalculations. He over-estimated the power and efficacy of his armed forces, under-estimated Ukraine’s fighting ability, and, crucially, did not anticipate the determination and recklessness of the Western proxy war on Russia.
Had the Istanbul peace negotiations succeeded and war come to an end in spring 2022, those who argue Putin’s decision for war was right at the time he took it, would have a much stronger case to argue. But the prolonged nature of the war, the extent of its death and devastation, the real and continuing threat of nuclear catastrophe, and the prospect of an endless conflict, leave me unconvinced that it was the right thing to do.
It is highly likely Russia will in due course secure a decisive military advantage that will enable Putin to credibly claim victory. But it remains to be seen whether or not what Russia gains will have been worth the cost it will have paid.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/07/21/from-stalinism-to-the-most-avoidable-war-in-history/

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 22 2023 0:58 utc | 195

“why should we care what is on the front pages of these newspapers then”, Shadenfreude.

Posted by: TJC | Jul 22 2023 1:07 utc | 196

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2023 0:35 utc | 201
Congrats on yr surgery. Be vigilant about post-op infections, complications etc. Best of luck!
Just read your linked SS article. In response:
First, for general interest, an untypical take on HK from a partisan Jewish publication. They are not fans. It doesn’t look like he works for the same people who run the neocons but I’m not a member of the tribe and unfamiliar with their internal tensions. In any case: who does he represent? He’s clearly a cut above most public figures we get to see, including lowly Presidents and dime-a-dozen billionaires though only a glorified Secretary to those higher powers himself.
https://forward.com/culture/470300/kissinger-at-100-if-it-were-not-for-the-accident-of-my-birth-i-would-be/
Now to Pepe’s article you linked:

What’s really going on in the back rooms of the current American administration was not reflected by Kissinger’s high-profile peace initiative, but by an extremely combative Edward Luttwak. Luttwak, 80, may not be as visibly influential as Kissinger, but as a behind-the-scenes strategist he’s been advising the Pentagon across the spectrum for over five decades. His book on Byzantine Empire strategy, for instance, heavily drawing on top Italian and British sources, is a classic.
Luttwak, a master of deception, reveals precious nuggets in terms of contextualizing current Washington moves. That starts with his assertion that the US – represented by the Biden combo – is itching to do a deal with Russia.

Interesting. He concludes with:

So is the wet dream of a war on China going to change these geopolitical and geoeconomics imperatives? Give us a -Thucydides – break. The real war is already on – but certainly not one identified by Kissinger, Brzezinski and much less Luttwak and assorted US neocons.
Michael Hudson, once again, summarized it: when it comes to the economy, the US and EU “strategic error of self-isolation from the rest of the world is so massive, so total, that its effects are the equivalent of a world war.”

Also possible is that Kissinger and Luttwak do serve the same network but right now are doing a good cop-bad cop routine to figure out the best path forward. Luttwak is waving a stick at China and Henry went over with some sort of carrot. Pepe and most pundits on this continue to ignore the significant and clearly deliberate destruction being perpetrated on Westerners by their own elites. It is highly unlikely that this is an entirely separate phenemenon unrelated to all the geopolitical machinations underway.
The elites control of the West, and their demonstrated ability at this point to crash it or redirect it without having to suffer any consequences gives them bargaining leverage they didn’t have only three years ago. The way the West looks now compared to how it looked shortly before Covid in early 2020 is like night and day.
Interesting times…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 1:07 utc | 197

Illian Omar sayin “these are the hottest 4 days in 120,000 years ….good weekend laugh

Posted by: Duh | Jul 22 2023 1:16 utc | 198

Re:
21 JUL, 05:06
“Russian forces drop leaflets on Ukrainian positions calling for surrender
The ministry said once the shell explodes, leaflets fly across the space of more than one square kilometer
MOSCOW, July 21. /TASS/. BM-21 Grad multiple launch rocket systems of the Russian Central Military District have sprinkled leaflets over the positions of Ukrainian troops near the town of Krasny Liman, calling them to surrender, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Friday.“
Will be a busy weekend it appears. I know “leaflets” are done from time to time, even in Bakmut, but that’s usually right before a big air campaign or massive artillery attack.
I wonder if any units have or will surrender?

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jul 22 2023 1:18 utc | 199

So what is going on? Who is Putin serving, or which factions is he caught between, what is his goal in Ukraine? What does he expect from the West? Do you think he is one of the traitors? If not, could you sketch out the internal terrain a little more for us?
I have always been assuming that most of the descriptions of Putin as both Saint and Genius firmly in command of a united Russian people facing up to the Wicked West are, at best, over-simplification but lack sufficient information to go much deeper than that. Would appreciate a more detailed description from your POV and suspect others would as well. In other words, not so much about what’s now happening tactically in Ukraine etc, but what’s going on overall, the bigger picture, viz Putin, RF, the traitors, the patriots, ties to the liberals, Western power networks etc.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2023 0:42 utc | 202

I wish I could give you the exact names of the people involved and their goals, but I can’t. I don’t have that kind of access. Few people do in fact. This is what makes it all the more frustrating — what is known is that something very shady is going on, but who exactly is playing what game is known only to the limited number of insiders. I am not sure even most of the Angry Patriots know, although you have high ranking former intelligence officers there who presumably occasionally sit down over a bottle of vodka with people still plugged in the system and get updated about the current situation.
That is partly by design — it limits the options for taking action. But also partly by necessity because Russia is so big and the hierarchy of the system has so many levels.
BTW, a lot of what we know about the collapse of the USSR we know from the satellites, not from Moscow. Some people have spoken from Moscow too, but you can hear much more open admissions from first-hand witness from the satellites, because the hierarchy there is not so layered, as the satellites were much smaller. It’s the same thing in the US — it is very big and there are a lot of levels of access to information; it is even worse in fact because it hasn’t collapsed yet and you don’t have so many people who were in the ruling elite and were then chewed and spit out of it and are thus willing to spill the beans. But even when it collapses, people from the former colonies telling stories about what they were ordered to do by who will be a key source of information regarding what was happening in the US internally.
Putin isn’t really calling the shots, he is balancing between various interest groups. And if he has to balance and not take sides, that presumably means even he can be disposed of at any time. The way the Prigozhin mutiny was rapidly unfolding gives you an idea that this isn’t such a remote possibility as it might seem. It’s either that or he is a traitor himself. And we don’t know enough to tell which one it is. But we do know enough to be near certain that the Kremlin as a whole isn’t fighting this existential war in a correspondingly existential way.

Posted by: shаdowbanned | Jul 22 2023 1:21 utc | 200