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July 13, 2023
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 2023-165

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I recently came across a proof of the product rule for differentiation that struck me as brilliant, elegant, and convincing. I liked it so much that I recreated it in Microsoft Word, added brief explanations of each step, and used Windows’ Snipping Tool to save it as an image file.
For barflies who appreciate such things, the image file can be viewed here.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 13 2023 14:17 utc | 1

VOVAN & LEXUS (“Zelensky”) prank Henry Kissinger (30 min)
https://rumble.com/v2zlbn8-full-prank-with-henry-kissinger.html
Kissinger mumbles about Nordstream (“I thought YOU blew it up!” in response to question), K.Harris (“Very unpredictable; I don’t she has the gravitas to be president”), Bilderberg meeting with European leaders (“The Europeans don’t want Ukraine in Nato”), Kennedy assassination (“I think it was Cubans, helped by Russians”) and more…

Posted by: Browser | Jul 13 2023 14:25 utc | 2

Kissinger mumbles about … K.Harris (“Very unpredictable; I don’t she has the gravitas to be president”)….
Posted by: Browser | Jul 13 2023 14:25 utc | 2

I never expected the subject of “gravitas” (which I find rather less relevant than what someone says and does, but I’m digressing) to be raised in connection with the Queen of Word Salad.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 13 2023 14:33 utc | 3

Tornado watch for Montreal – eep!
Update on the BC port strike. From the Toronto Star and La Presse, who looks at Olymel’s lost millions because of it.
https://www.thestar.com/business/2023/07/12/labour-minister-intervenes-in-bc-port-workers-strike-asks-mediator-for-terms-to-end-impasse.html
https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/2023-07-13/le-port-de-vancouver-paralyse/une-greve-qui-coute-des-millions-a-olymel.php
Speaking of BC, the Beaverton (satire) offers a funny yet disturbing faux news story about the most Western province:
BC Parks to improve campsite reservation system by partnering with Ticketmaster
https://twitter.com/TheBeaverton/status/1678792512922857478

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 13 2023 14:51 utc | 4

germany geo politics – related to history and ukraine.. from today – indian punchline.. is this what the majority of germans want?
Germany creates equity in Western Ukraine

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 15:04 utc | 5

“In Putin’s words, China “managed in the best possible way, in my opinion, to use the levers of central administration (for) the development of a market economy … The Soviet Union did nothing like this, and the results of an ineffective economic policy impacted the political sphere”.
But that is precisely what Russia, under Putin, has corrected. Mixing Lenin’s ideology with List’s economic insights (a follower of List, Count Sergei Witte was Prime Minister in 19th Century Russia) has made Russia self-reliant.”
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/07/13/tale-of-two-cities/
Banger from Crooke today! Back to Lenin it seems. Oh, and Putin saying that China’s CCP moved to a market economy, aka Capitalism, but “in the best possible way”.
Read a reformist version where the state controls the FIRE sector. What say you, barflies?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 15:04 utc | 6

@ David Levin | Jul 13 2023 14:33 utc | 3
“.. the Queen of Word Salad.”
david – that’s good! did you come up with that? lol..

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 15:05 utc | 7

david – that’s good! did you come up with that? lol..
Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 15:05 utc | 7

james, I’d often seen her ramblings called “word salad,” so my contribution consists at most of adding “Queen” to the mix.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 13 2023 15:13 utc | 8

@ Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 15:04 utc | 6
thanks for pointing out that article.. it’s a good overview and i agree with the conclusions!
you remind me of a previous poster – outraged…
i am presently reading a book ‘the bolsheviks’ by adam b ulam.. the book is excellent and i am learning a lot about the 1800s in russia and about lenin too.. it jives with the article… thanks again..

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 15:15 utc | 9

@ David Levin | Jul 13 2023 15:13 utc | 8
good stuff david.. its a good slang name for her!

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 15:16 utc | 10

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 13 2023 14:33
The end is nigh when the western “intellectuals” are considering the gravitas of Kamala.
This gal is a ditzy former line prosecutor who slept her way to the highest offices in California and then with her wealthy Dem supporters leveraged the BLM insanity to get Joe’s pick as a VP “of color” with an extra benefit: she’d unthinkingly (not hard for her) do anything the Dem tops told her to.
Now one of the dumbest people in the country is a step from the presidency, which is held by one of the most senile people in the country. The Dems tops with their media dominance only need warm bodies at this point.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 15:18 utc | 11

It’s times like this (that story about BC Parks and Ticketmaster) that I think to wonder where Canada’s military assets are along the West Coast. A bit of an initial search returned me a Tweet from Nov. 21, 2021 and a couple others that were interesting.
From 2021: https://twitter.com/theWesternPIE/status/1462504447322386433
More recent:
https://twitter.com/theWesternPIE/status/1678837569327595521
https://twitter.com/djrmp/status/1679087255476924416

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 13 2023 15:19 utc | 12

I have sidestepped the three-paragraph guideline by cutting out much. For full Perspective see original. Link below.

Vilnius NATO summit unveils plans for global domination
The declaration adopted this week by the heads of state and government of the 31 NATO members in Vilnius, Lithuania, is a blueprint for global war. Only a fraction of the 24-page document deals with the central issue of the summit, the war in Ukraine. In the rest, NATO declares its intention to impose its will on the entire world. Hardly any continent and region are left out in what the document calls NATO’s “360-degree approach.”
The focus of the initial portions of the document is on the conflict with Russia. The Putin government is denounced in language that rules out from the outset any solution to the Ukraine war at the negotiating table…
Much of the media commentary has focused on the fact that, while the communique asserts that “Ukraine’s future is in NATO,” it does not lay out a specific timeline for membership…
The maintenance of the legal ambiguity does not mean that NATO is not enormously escalating the war, with Ukraine being endlessly supplied with military and financial support to continue fighting and bleed Russia white.
The new communique declares that “Ukraine’s path to full Euro-Atlantic integration has moved beyond the need for the Membership Action Plan” established in 2008, because “Ukraine has become increasingly interoperable and politically integrated with the Alliance.”…
Perhaps even more significant than the communique is the war plan, running a total of 4,000 pages, adopted at the conference…
The conflict with Russia is itself part of a blueprint for global domination.
A central focus of the communique is on China…
Particularly ominous in the document are the repeated references to nuclear war, which has entered into the calculations of the imperialist war planners. “We will individually and collectively deliver the full range of forces, capabilities, plans, resources, assets and infrastructure needed for deterrence and defence, including for high-intensity, multi-domain warfighting against nuclear-armed peer-competitors,” it states. “Accordingly, we will strengthen training and exercises that simulate conventional and, for Allies concerned, a nuclear dimension of a crisis or conflict, facilitating greater coherence between conventional and nuclear components of NATO’s deterrence and defence posture across all domains and the entire spectrum of conflict.”…
The war plans of the imperialist powers will enormously escalate the growth of social conflict. The document pledges all the signatories to commit “at least 2% of our Gross Domestic Product” on war. However, it states, “in many cases, expenditure beyond 2% of GDP will be needed …
Throughout the document, there are veiled references to internal conflict. It refers to the need to “boost our national and collective ability to ensure continuity of government,” “enable civil support to military operations” and “promote societal resilience.” The document even refers to the possibility of using Article 5 against domestic opponents of governments—“non-state actors”—that “target our political institutions, our critical infrastructure, our societies, our democratic systems, our economies, and the security of our citizens.”
NATO’s claim to impose its will on the whole world, as formulated in the Vilnius summit document, borders on madness. But it is the madness of a ruling class with its back against the wall…
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/07/13/nuwl-j13.html

Posted by: suzan | Jul 13 2023 15:27 utc | 13

@ Bruised Northerner | Jul 13 2023 15:19 utc | 12
maybe they are here to fight the forest fires… all help encouraged!

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 15:36 utc | 14

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 13 2023 14:17 utc | 1
Cool! Could you please do one for Lebesgue integration now?
🙂

Posted by: Comacho In Chief | Jul 13 2023 15:41 utc | 15

Maybe james @14. The Beaverton posted this memorable one-liner back in Jan. “Update: With most equipment donated to Ukraine, Canadian military down to a tarp and a plastic spork #cdnpoli” so maybe Canadian military personnel are out there, along the Pacific, without a lot of military equipment (thus no equipment/vehicle trail to follow like I was trying to).

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 13 2023 15:45 utc | 16

AI wars are coming. Billions of bots will be trained to appear human, but sew true disinformation to confuse AIs that scrape social media. Deconstruction of all truth will be the goal.
Search Engine Optimization will be the first prototypes, then information warfare.
AIs have one drawback, they will state with certainty they are correct about something, if it is nonsense. For example, a bunch of nonsense scribbles on a check will be identified by an AI handwriting reader as 99.9% certain it is a distinct amount written, as the AI does not understand or anticipate a useless or illogical action such as submitting a check with scribbles instead of numbers.
Likewise, bots posting to social media can eventually fool AIs into believing anything. If enough say Hitler wore a pink wig during his speeches, pictures are posted, and bots write articles, and then link to their articles sillinesses, eventually, the AI will believe it, and incorporate it into its reality, eventually making chat and analysis AIs useless.
So eventually, AIs will be forced, at least on the analysis front, to deal with truth and truth only. The only immutable truth out there currently, that is untouchable by human lies, is blockchains.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 16:11 utc | 17

Lavrov’s post ASEAN-Russian Meeting presser is available at my substack here along with the translated foundational document for the Greater Eurasian Partnership. As I note in my preamble, Lavrov’s answers to the probing questions he’s asked are very educational, more so than usual, IMO.
I also intend to provide coverage of the Future Technologies Forum being held in Russia this week, the following being the proclaimed synopsis:
“The Forum of Future Technologies will be held for the first time in Russia on July 9–14, 2023 at the WTC Congress Center. It will be devoted to quantum technologies as one of the most promising areas of scientific and technological progress and will open a series of annual events at which the advanced directions of the country’s technological development will be discussed. On July 9–12, the events of the closed scientific conference ICQT 2023 will be held, where scientists will analyze the current achievements of quantum physics and trends in the development of quantum technologies. July 13–14 will be open days of the Forum, which will include a plenary session, 18 sessions and special events.”
Yes, Putin is attending and is participating in today’s Plenary Forum.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 16:17 utc | 18

suzan | Jul 13 2023 15:27 utc | 13–
Yes, it’s despicable. Read the following Q&A:

Question: At the NATO summit in Vilnius, Jens Stoltenberg officially stated that the alliance would work closely with partners from the EU and Asia against Russia and China. Is this goal-setting surprising or not? How, in principle, can you assess the results of the summit, given the rather vague wording regarding Ukraine?
Sergey Lavrov: I have known Jens Stoltenberg for a long time. The character is Nordic, he speaks bluntly, not in verse. This is not the first time such statements have been made.
I have already mentioned that the doctrinal documents of the United States and NATO state that Russia and China are threats and challenges. Now in Vilnius, he said that not just the plans of Russia and China, but relations between Russia and China are a threat to the North Atlantic Alliance. It turns out that we are not even supposed to have a relationship, according to their desire. This is a hopeless path that once again confirms the urgency of the task that we are now setting together with many partners to counter modern forms of colonialism, attempts at hegemony in world affairs and a direct violation of the above-mentioned principle of the UN Charter on the need to respect in practice, in fact, the sovereign equality of all states.
NATO members are clearly not ready for this. “Megalomania” is manifested in all the actions of the leadership of the Secretariat of the alliance and, by and large, the member countries. Everyone can see it. According to Freud, they sometimes come across the recognition that, as Josep Borrell recently said, Europe is a “blooming garden” and everything else is a “jungle” that needs to be treated accordingly. I see no prospects for such a policy. For some time, probably, they will resist objective trends in world development. Their line will not prevail historically. Although it may take some time. [My Emphasis]

The lines of the Confrontation are becoming ever clearer as NATO admits it’s a Criminal Organization clearly acting outside the UN Charter. How many people within Europe agree to becoming accomplices to such criminality?

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 16:26 utc | 19

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 15:15 utc | 9
Awesome, James. Don’t forget to go to the source too. Lenin is actually a good writer.
“What is to be done” is timely again imo. As the Crooke article points out the ruling class can be unseated by a spontaneous disorganized group, but historically organization is the surer bet for a real change with real staying power.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 16:29 utc | 20

While searching around for information earlier this morning on those neutral European countries and their stances on Ukraine (was Wallace taking a swipe at them??), I came across this article: “Neutral Austria and Switzerland join NATO countries in air defence revamp”
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/2023/07/07/neutral-austria-and-switzerland-join-nato-countries-in-air-defence-revamp/
“Agreement signed with Germany to join 19-member European Sky Shield initiative”
The article also says, “Notably missing is France, which is pushing a “buy European” credo that is at odds with Germany’s preference for Israeli Arrow 3 missiles and US-made systems such as Patriot.
The rift broke into the open at last month’s Paris Air Show when France’s President Emmanuel Macron announced Belgium, Cyprus, Hungary and Estonia had joined a rival coalition to buy French-made Mistral missiles.”
It seems interest in neutrality in Europe is not what it once was.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 13 2023 16:40 utc | 21

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 16:26 utc | 19
Re: garden vs jungle
A friend, whose girlfriend always listened to NPR and BBC complained about this to me a few times. He noted that any BBC story on other nations, always painted NATO / five eyes nations in positive lights technologically, while only running stories about the RoW that indicated the country was backwards, undeveloped, malnourished, conflict prone, crime ridden, etc etc.
This for one, makes it easier to bomb or even bomb these places, as Brits etc seem to believe their bombings and invasions help their targets. It also places in the minds of listeners that western governments are doing a great job, and to continue to uphold the status quo means to continue to uphold prosperity.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 16:45 utc | 22

Cool! Could you please do one for Lebesgue integration now?
🙂
Posted by: Comacho In Chief | Jul 13 2023 15:41 utc | 15

I’m afraid not, especially considering that prior to a few minutes ago, I’d not heard of Lebesgue integration (or at least I don’t recall hearing of it).

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 13 2023 16:50 utc | 23

Crooke gets this right
“….At the end of the two World Wars, west Europeans had sought a fairer society (the industrial society that had preceded the wars was frankly both feudal and brutal). Europeans wanted a new deal that cared for the less advantaged too. It was not socialism per se that was sought, though some plainly did want communism. Essentially, it was about re-inserting some ethical values into an amoral laissez-faire economic sphere.”
But this is wrong”
“It did not work out well. The system ballooned, ‘til western states could no longer afford themselves. Debt spiked. And then, in the 1980s, a seeming ‘remedy’ – imported from the Chicago School of neo-liberal zealots, preaching attrition of the social infrastructure and the financialisation of the economy – was widely adopted.”
It was not social expenditure which was the problem in the ’70s. Quite the opposite. It was a failure to follow the logic of equality and to control the capitalist class which still used its enormous socio-economic power for political purposes. So long as the capitalist system remained it was bound to use every reserve of strength it could summon to put an end to the era of social reform and to reverse it. Hence the Neo-liberal impulse which has seen the dismantling of all the reforms of the post war era- most recently exemplified in the “pension reforms ” in France and the accelerated dismantling of the public health services in, for example, the UK and Canada.
This reactionary movement was both cause and effect of the breaking up of the Soviet Union. Neo-liberalism appealed to a nomenklatura in which elements aspired to transforming their position into that of a ruling class, with ownership of the means of production, while the ending of the contradictory example of the soviet system, and the threat of its attracting working class support in the ‘west’, lessened the inhibitions of, particularly, the social democratic parties of Europe where aspirations similar to those which had inspired the soviet bureaucrats to become oligarchs and mafiosa became dominant.
Hence Blair, hence Hollande, hence Starmer. Hence Jack Layton, Jagmeet Singh and Charlie Angus.
The one factor that has remained constant through these gyrations has been the obsession with arms production, wars and the threat of nuclear war. These were the weaknesses in the economies the seventies- it was not school meals for malnourished kids but permanent war in Asia and Africa that undermined the ‘competitiveness’ of the British and Rust Belt economies. It was the diversion of massive resources into events like the current Ukraine war that taxed the capitalist system to the point that it had to take the risk of waking the sleeping giant of its own working class by picking its pockets to finance its adventures and mortgaging the future by building up unsustainable debt obligations.
NATO, the centre of the old imperial system, has become the last hold out against the global realization that the first step needed in the absolutely vital and urgent business of solving humanity’s problems, is to devote all our resources to the peaceful development needed to put an end to debilitating extreme poverty and to restore both social and natural environments into the balance required as a foundation to a future in which the happiness and health of all and each of our descendants will be central to our social and cultural development.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 13 2023 17:19 utc | 24

@ Bruised Northerner | Jul 13 2023 15:45 utc | 16
thanks… bottom line is canada has gone down the wrong road and i am not sure when canucks recognize this and demand something different..
@ Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 16:29 utc | 20
thanks again for sharing those insights.. i can see europe, especially france – finding itself in a challenging place if the revolutionaries are organized well.. i am wondering about the direction of the netherlands with the resignation of mark rutte last friday… i am intrigued and heartened by these developments and the ascension of the farmers voice in all of this.. at what point does germany wake up and smell the coffee? they can’t be that thick…
i don’t know how far down the marxist rabbit hole i am going to go, but this book is positive and an eyeopener for me.. what crooke describes has much in common with the first chapter of this book i am reading..

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 17:21 utc | 25

UWDude | Jul 13 2023 16:45 utc | 22–
The continually developing nation of China made an important announcement today, “Core module of world’s first commercial small modular reactor passes final acceptance”, implying that it’s growing its own Garden. Rosatom and China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC) are now the global leaders in developing and applying the peaceful use of nuclear power.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 17:48 utc | 26

germany really has gone bonkers…. any german citizens want to comment??
Moscow warns Berlin to stop stealing cars
Germany’s customs service has been confiscating private Russian cars entering the country, citing EU sanctions

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 17:51 utc | 27

Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 15:04 utc | 6–
I say Thanks very much!! for announcing the delayed posting of Crooke’s latest essay. So much happening today to try and keep up with.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 17:52 utc | 28

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 17:51 utc | 27
I can confirm this, they even took jewelry (like marriage rings) from Russians entering Germany. Pure madness…

Posted by: Zet | Jul 13 2023 17:57 utc | 29

If you sense something ominous in Earth’s hot, angry ocean today, you’re not alone…
The Climate Dice are Loaded Now, a New Frontier?
13 July 2023
James Hansen, Makiko Sato and Reto Ruedy

Suspicion that we are headed into new climate territory, not seen in the past million years*, is fueled by the present extraordinarily large Earth’s energy imbalance (EEI [currently 1.33 W/m2 and rising])… the proximate cause of global warming: as long as more energy is coming in than going out, we must expect global warming to continue.
* Global warming of 1.2°C since 1880-1920 has brought global temperature to at least the level of the prior interglacial period, the Eemian, about 120,000 years ago. The Eemian was one of the warmest interglacials in the last million years.

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2023/ClimateDice.13July2023.pdf

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 18:39 utc | 30

Thankyou suzan | 13 jul 2023 15:27 UTC | 13,
and thankyou karlof1 | 13 jul 2023 16:26 UTC | 19….
for your clarifying what the Nato documents are about.
Readers let´s pass it on to everyone we know! And send some euros to b for his hosting this excellent blog!

Posted by: Northern Eve | Jul 13 2023 18:39 utc | 31

@ Zet | Jul 13 2023 17:57 utc | 29
thanks zet!
do any of these germans working in the gov’t recognize where they are going and the parallels from the past?? i find it all very bizarre..

Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 18:47 utc | 32

@Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 18:39 utc | 30
James Hansen? Really? That is ‘climate science’ equivalent to Zelensky.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 13 2023 18:55 utc | 33

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 18:39 utc | 30
Caveman and their carbon emissions. I guess we are doomed to repeat history. 🙁

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 19:03 utc | 34

@11 ahenobarbus
The Hindu-Dindu has my vote.
Does any sane mind left in the U.S. think we are voting outselves outta this?
We will be collapsing our way outta this, me thinks.

Posted by: NemesisCalling I | Jul 13 2023 19:09 utc | 35

David Levin @3. Using gravitas and Kameltits in the same sentence is a travesty. I’d say that she has the intellect of a first grader, but hesitate to denigrate our children. Word salad is being quite a compliment for that moron who is a step away from the presidency. Just another sign of the inevitable downfall of Empire.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jul 13 2023 19:12 utc | 36

True, Aleph_Null | 13 jul 2023 18:39 UTC | 30, I think there are many who worry a lot, and the climate movements don´t understand, that without a world with cooperating countries, we can never ever solve any problem with the climate. Greta stands on the totally wrong side, she ´
doesn´t see the connection between USA/Nato and their fight for an unipolar world….we´ll have to bombard the climate movements with informmation.

Posted by: Northern Eve | Jul 13 2023 19:16 utc | 37

That is ‘climate science’ equivalent to Zelensky.
@ Norwegian | Jul 13 2023 18:55 utc | 33
When scientific accomplishment such as Hansen’s instantly closes your mind, you’re firmly lined up with those see-no-evil and hear-no-evil monkeys — dense and deaf as a porcelain doll. Science itself has become a “woke” thing to closet fascists infesting MoA.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 19:21 utc | 38

@30
there appear to be thermal spikes in the ocean, large geo-thermal.
but dare not let observe thermodynamics get in the way of anthro climate change religion based on anecdote, appeal to clerical science (faith) and appeal to religion like authority….
and the goal of de carbon is your freedoms givens up
climate and covid science are the same type of smart sounding con

Posted by: paddy | Jul 13 2023 19:25 utc | 39

Posted by: NemesisCalling I | Jul 13 2023
Isn’t the Chinese word for crisis and opportunity the same? Either way, that’s how to look at it.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 19:31 utc | 40

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 17:52 utc |
Always a pleasure to share Crooke. I’m indebted to this site for pointing him out.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 19:32 utc | 41

climate and covid science are the same type of smart sounding con
@ paddy | Jul 13 2023 19:25 utc | 39
That basic anti-science attitude would seem to be the majority opinion around here (as practically everywhere). It’s gotten to the point where intelligent discussion of anything is hopeless as when tripped into the 9/11 truther rabbithole. We enjoy links to militarily intelligent voices (such as Big Serge, Andrei Martynov, and Simplicius) — which is b’s expertise, after all. That much is refreshing, given the firehose of Russophobia and Sinophobia flooding the airwaves.
But when it comes to looking up at the sky, barflies mainly look down at their beers.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 19:37 utc | 42

Posted by: bevin | Jul 13 2023 17:19 utc | 24
I’m not convinced he was completely wrong on that point. Socialistic reform measures are not really sustainable in capitalist society. Again, for lack of a larger world revolution or a real effort in that direction, these type of reforms can only be considered a temporary effort to placate a restive working class.
Once the post war communists were under control, the Chicago boys moved in a take us back to pre WW1 capitalism. That’s where we’re at despite some woke window dressing and “human rights” justifications imperialist wars.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 19:40 utc | 43

Isn’t the Chinese word for crisis and opportunity the same? Either way, that’s how to look at it.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 19:31 utc | 40
No, they’re different words as they are in English. It has been a pervasive myth for some time though!

Posted by: Paul_Zed | Jul 13 2023 19:43 utc | 44

Posted by: paddy | Jul 13 2023 19:25 utc | 39
they really aren’t–covid “science” goes back a couple of years, climate science got it’s start iirc about 200 years ago.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 13 2023 19:46 utc | 45

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 19:37 utc | 42
i don’t know about the majority. I ignore those kinds of posts more often than I respond to them–right now I’m more concerned about the US empire’s warmongering, a more immediate threat to life as we know it, though not in the long term. I don’t know how many barflies take a similar approach.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 13 2023 19:50 utc | 46

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 19:37 utc | 42
There is still snow on Kilamanjaro.
We are now almost one month past the end of the world, according to Greta Thunberg and her “scientific experts”
All glaciers at Glacier National Park still exist, eight years after your science said they would be gone.
The models have been cataclysmically wrong. Garbage in, garbage out. World temperatures are randomly distributed across the globe, biased heavily toward land and populated areas.
Headlines screaming “the hottest on record!” Usually fail under scrutiny, when it is seen they chose the record to be over a period of time that starts just after the year it was hotter.
And yes, I did weather modeling in Fluent Technology’s Airpak for a while, a while ago, and currently do complex modelling all day.
And I KNOW that models to be predictive, need good, unbiased data, which is almost impossible to achieve.
So please, spare me your new euphamisms for “Global Warming” repackaged as a new marketing buzzword to hide all the embarassingly wrong predictions your scientists have made. Your science is the science of the now debunked “Global Warming”, and all it is is a way for the governments to be sure to interject their misanthropy into what was once innocuous, common small talk… the weather.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 19:53 utc | 47

climate science got it’s start iirc about 200 years ago
@ pretzelattack | Jul 13 2023 19:46 utc | 45
You mean Joseph Fourier? There’s another woke appeal to religion-like authority!

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 19:55 utc | 48

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 19:53 utc | 47
nope. the models have not been catastrophically wrong though they probably underestimated the quickness and severity of the threat. Greta Thunberg is not a climate scientist, and neither is Al Gore. furthermore, fossil fuel companies are not helpless victims; they are some of the richest corporations in a system designed by rich corporations to favor rich corporations. you’ve fallen for their propaganda campaign, which they instituted after their own scientists warned them of the problem.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 13 2023 20:00 utc | 49

badjoke is either a fool or is lying about nuclear weapons. In either case do not take that troll’s post at face value. If the troll is just a mouth-breathing moron, then it is just wrong and should be disregarded. If badjoke is not a moron then it is trying to deceive.
Note: America’s B61 nuclear device has a “dial-a-yield” to select from 0.3 kiloton yield (300 tons of TNT equivalent) to 340 kilotons equivalent.
Why would trolls try to deceive on this issue? Perhaps they are just stupid (easy enough to believe the moron doesn’t even bother to do a cursory check of Wikipedia). Or perhaps a nuke was used and they are trying to blow smoke. That would be more believable from a SOCOM MISO troll.
badjoke could be a moron, or his post could be evidence that a nuke was actually used.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 13 2023 20:03 utc | 50

and that is my last post today on climate science. like I say, right now I’m more focused on the threat posed by the Empire that fossil fuel companies are such an integral part of.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 13 2023 20:03 utc | 51

“But when it comes to looking up at the sky, barflies mainly look down at their beers.”
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 19:37 utc | 42
Not me I don’t, Aleph, particularly these hot summer nights. Best relief I get is out under the stars, and the North star stays obligingly positioned over my front gate so the constellations do a slow progression around that. I can’t say I could point out most of them but I’m usually out when the Great Bear is dipping along the western segment, sometimes later to see stars I mostly don’t recognize, as last night I was.
Here’s my scrap of knowledge about clouds for this semi-mountainous area at least. Clouds at night are a bit of a no-no in summer because not only do they hide the stars, they also trap the heat. Today was predicted to be our hottest day but it isn’t, because last night the clouds parted around 2 am, and that’s all it took — heat escaped,yay, and then the clouds generously returned at sunrise and shut out the sun all the way till noon. Now we have sun again, so curtains closed you bet, most windows as well – but we need the sun for the swamp coolers to work properly; they only work in dry air.
So there you have it, make friends with the clouds, so they’ll behave thusly!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 13 2023 20:04 utc | 52

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 13 2023 20:00 utc | 49
I didnt fall for anything.
And “fossil fuel” companies, (you mean oil), also warned of peak oil, and are in firm grip of the governments. Government and corporate power are one and the same.
If the Sun wants to fry us, it will. It is the only entity that determines the temperature of the planet. If it wanted to freeze us, we would not be able to pump out enough carbon to stop it even if we tried.
People who live in urban areas, and fly over oceans, are unable to fathom the true size of this planet, and how tiny humans actually are.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 20:11 utc | 53

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 19:40 utc | 43
While I do not disagree with you, I think it cuts much deeper than just “socialistic reforms.” In fact pre-WWI capitalism is at its core incompatible with direct democracy, or even correctly functioning (as in non corrupted) representative democracy. So when socialistic reforms do sometimes make it from concept to policy and the forces of private finance/capital inevitably invest shitloads of money to reverse them, what they’re really most busy at all the time is subverting/corrupting any actual democratic systems and capabilities. I guess another way of putting that is democratic tendencies naturally lead to socialistic policies, and private capital/finance knows this, so they invest the real effort in curtailing democracy.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 20:12 utc | 54

The embrace of fracking is a direct result of “peak oil” on a more local scale. There is no infinity pool of oil beneath the Earth’s surface.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 20:14 utc | 55

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 20:14 utc | 55
Fracking is only profitable when the oil price is high enough. The USA encourages it because the expertise may be needed in case of oil embargo.
We are well, well beyond all doomsayer’s timetables when it came to when the earth would run out of oil. We are also well, well beyond doomsayers global warming predictions, and well well beyond Malthusian doomsayers peak population capacity of the Earth.
Thrilling as all the science fictions may be to our boring, struggle free modern lives, they are great for fantasy and entertainment, and little else.
The only real threat to humanity is nuclear weapons, or cataclysmic natural disaster, ie super volcano or meteor.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 20:25 utc | 56

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/the-community-microbiome
Interesting piece (on my friend’s site linked to my moniker here) about collective microbiome.
And a nice piece by Mike Whitney at Unz about China’s huge rise and current prospects. Good overview.
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-one-chart-that-explains-everything-2/

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 13 2023 20:31 utc | 57

UWDude,
I know little to nothing about the “doomsayers” from the 60s, 70s and 80s regarding peak oil. What I do know is that in places like West Texas, regular old oil deposits dried up and they had to resort to fracking – which, as you state – is only profitable when oil prices are high enough (and even then only because of massive government subsidies). But that isn’t really related to the point that no matter what any fossil fuel funded narrative might say, there isn’t an infinity pool of oil beneath the Earth’s surface. Now, there may in fact be a lot of oil left in places like the ME and Venezuela with varying degrees of ease to extract and use (including being extremely damaging to the surrounding environment, more expensive to refine, etc.), but the “zombie wells” in the Texas Permian Basin are there precisely because “peak oil” came and went in those places.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 20:35 utc | 58

Knock it for being the Graun all you want, but try telling these people that the only real threat to humanity is nuclear weapons, a meteor or super volcano.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/dec/06/this-place-used-to-be-green-the-brutal-impact-of-oil-in-the-niger-delta
And why focus only on humanity? Humanity will not survive without all the other creatures of the Earth.
https://www.noaa.gov/education/resource-collections/ocean-coasts/oil-spills
https://www.worldwildlife.org/threats/oil-and-gas-development

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 20:38 utc | 59

The Rothschild Global Financial Advisory is located in downtown Moscow and their website brags of “high level political access” to the Russian government. And Rothschild run Glencore and the Putin Government joined forces to create the world’s largest aluminum company, RUSAL. Abramovich is Putin’s close confidant, and a joint shareholder along with the Russian government in assets such as Gazprom, Aeroflot, and RUSAL. Nat Rothschild is a fellow RUSAL investor, and best freind of Roman Abramovich. Nat is also close friends, and RUSAL business partners with with Oleg Deripaska. Putin selected close friend Oleg Deripaska to represent Russia in ABAC (APEC Business Advisory Council). Deripaska is also a close friends and RUSAL business partners with Roman Abramovich. The Rothschild family are majority shareholders of Rio Tinto. RUSAL and Rio Tinto are involved in joint mining operations despite so called “sanctions” imposed by the West.
Russian government owned Rosneft in business with Rockefeller run Exxon and BP despite “sanctions.” The Putin Government and Anatly Chubais are joint owners of RUSNANO. Chubais is on the CFR global board of advisers, the Chase Bank advisory board. and a member of Bilderberg. He also worked with the CIA to implement privatization of the Russian economy.
Since 1913 when the US Fed was hijacked by Zionist Bankers, our vote hasn’t mattered, not only in Western countries, but in most countries. And what they’re doing today with the constant political fighting is to condition the people into believing that the control of a country is just too complicated for one government, so there will need to be a “One World Government” controlling everything.

Posted by: Anri_Jonis | Jul 13 2023 20:48 utc | 60

Wrt RU QM tech: my gut says that to solve the problems of communicating through the plasma of hypersonic missiles they have made a significant scientific breakthrough.

Posted by: Rae | Jul 13 2023 20:54 utc | 61

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 20:38 utc | 59
We can talk about the environmental problems surrounding energy supply centers, sure. We can talk about atrazine too, and all the other water pollutants. Dam energy is best. Nothing comes close as of now.
Yes, wells tap out, and yes exploration goes further and further, and becomes more and more environmentally dangerous.
But… The doomsayers of past have been wrong for a litany of predictions, way, way off.
“Peak oil” became a popular apocalyptic fantasy after the opec embargo in 1979. A little discomfort, and Americans began to imagine the end of the world, as did their scientists… Well, the ones who made selling magazine subscriptions easier with their science fiction mad max dystopias.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 21:02 utc | 62

do any of these germans working in the gov’t recognize where they are going and the parallels from the past?? i find it all very bizarre..
Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 18:47 utc | 32
Yep, it’s very bizarre but I don’t think the gov’t explicitly asked for that. I believe it’s the officers at the border stations, they are trained to strictly follow the rules, like dogs.
Here’s another example of bizarre German border rules madness: if you’re a person living in Germany (officially registered in Germany) and you drive a car which has been registered in e.g. Switzerland (a non-EU country) over the border into Germany then you are committing a criminal offence… so don’t take the Swiss car of your mother from Zurich to transport some furniture to your new house in Germany – that will reduce the balance of your bank account by a couple thousand Euros; if you can’t pay they will take the car and sell it. Ouch…

Posted by: Zet | Jul 13 2023 21:08 utc | 63

Posted by: Anri_Jonis | Jul 13 2023 20:48 utc | 60
One of the unexpected blessings of chronic Lyme Disease is that it has forever banished any pretensions I may have earlier entertained, from having been born with a high IQ, that I could both understand and even retain the dense fact patterns displayed in your post.
But even if only 50% of it is true – as I suspect is at least the case from pre-Lyme reading in an earlier lifetime – then most of the narratives we are presented with are at best misleading.
So am curious how you view the multipolarity initiative now inexorably underway. I confess to liking the general thrust, finding it as essentially good as it is seemingly inevitable. However, perhaps there is much behind the pleasing facade making that which we see on the surface also at best misleading.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this and thxs for yr post.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 13 2023 21:20 utc | 64

In the last open thread (MoA Week in Review) somebody poo-pooed catastrophe theory. I just stumbled on a recent quote by David Berlinski about the book which introduced the theory, Rene Thom’s “Structural Stability and Morphogenesis: An Outline of a General Theory of Models.” In his latest book, ‘Science after Babel,’ Berlinski concludes his chapter on Catastrophe Theory, most of which is a review about Thom’s theory in a more recently published book, with the short paragraph:

Conclusion
Catastrophe Theory and Its Applications is an important book. Many scholars will wish to own or read a copy. Curiously enough, despite its size and earnestness, it strikes me as remarkably less interesting than Thom’s book. The great trouble with Zeeman’s models, for example, is simply that they are trivial. It hardly matters whether they are trivially true or trivially false, but Structural Stability and Morphogenesis
suggests something quite different: the conceptual richness of much of modern mathematics.
Philosophy stands in need of such concepts as structural stability, transversality, and genericity and so, indirectly, do the social sciences. Even if Thom is maddeningly imprecise, he is nonetheless interesting, and in the end that counts for almost everything.

Not a big deal, but until this morning had never once considered ‘catastrophe theory’ and now here it is popping up all over!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 13 2023 21:31 utc | 65

Russia conducted its first annual Future Technologies Forum where today’s plenary session included President Putin for a speech and very informative discussion which I’ve translated here. It’s quite long, the 80 minute video in Russian can be seen here. Those visiting the forum’s website I’ve linked to above will discover more of what it’s about. There’s an English section that has a few selections for those incapable of translating this being one, “Quantum Bridge between Russia and China”, many barflies will find fascinating.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 21:47 utc | 66

Thanks to all commenting on the Crooke article. What grabbed me was:
“… perversely, Europe is essentially treading the same path (with western characteristics) that Eastern Europe trod …”
I chuckled at the allusion to Chinese policies being ‘communism with Chinese characteristics.’ I have two examples of ‘characteristics’ to contemplate – firstly, Putin’s recognition of what China was doing that influenced his own changes to Russian priorities, and secondly his, Putin’s, sombre assessment more recently that the West was proceeding along the Yeltsin trail. [My truncation of his more eloquent statement.]
I am also remembering that China’s success has stemmed from a ‘bottom up’ rather than ‘top down’ way of achieving success. More local initiative to test by example whether a policy works, and less ‘rule based’/’our way or the highway.’ That certainly has an early American democracy feel about it. And if it worked back then, why not now?

Posted by: juliania | Jul 13 2023 21:47 utc | 67

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 13 2023 21:31 utc | 65
Catastrophe theory was not en vogue until the late 90s. Until then, consensus in most geological science was that everything moved very slowly, dinosaurs died out due to gradual climate change, the moon was formed of particulate matter over eons. This kind of played into the “science is boring, therefore you must be smart to engage in it” tone of the decades past.
Then in the late 90s, more evidence emerged of a massive asteroid hitting Earth around the Yucatan peninsula, and imaginations began to run wild. My astronomy professor insisted that the moon was a chunk blasted off of the Earth, and went through two lectures laying out all the evidence. It was farcical.
However, it could be true, as could be the asteroid, but science seems to love change of theory, one of the reasons being to get a phd you have to present a new thesis. Just using old data to defend old theories is not good enough.
Add to that the intentions of scientists, who start school dreaming of one day making a big discovery, and you have scientists piling all over each other trying to proclaim their findings are huge. A good way to make a name for yourself in the field is to proclaim your findings predict doom for humanity. For a scientist to run models where everything turns out fine, is not newsworthy.
“Scientist proves sun will rise tomorrow” is nothing.
So, I predict, in 30 years or so, science will again become “anti-catastrophic”, because it will be new phds challenging the standing theses.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 21:56 utc | 68

My report on the Hudson podcast that took place today is to say that if you read the transcript of the one previous you’ll have most of the information that was presented. However, a transcript of today’s podcast will eventually be published. More Hudson, the transcript of the second part of the Geopolitical Economy Show on “Colonialism or sovereignty? How the global financial system traps countries in debt” is also available to read. Quite a heavy load of material over the last few days is going to prove hard even for those retired to keep pace.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 21:56 utc | 69

To: Aleph_Null | Jul 13 2023 18:39 utc | 30
If you sense something ominous in Earth’s hot, angry ocean today, you’re not alone…
The Climate Dice are Loaded Now, a New Frontier?

As long as both poles are iced all year around, we are living in an ice age. Wake me up when we left
the ice age and we are back to normal.

Posted by: C | Jul 13 2023 21:59 utc | 70

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 21:02 utc | 62
I can’t argue with anything you said there, and I only had vague knowledge of the “peak oil” theories before the 90s. I guess the only thing I can add is that there are, in fact, some people out there who claim with a straight face that the Earth through some little-understood process (oh, but there are some wild theories for sure) manages to keep generating massive deposits of oil perpetually. IOW I think they’re of the opinion that fossil fuels aren’t actually created from “fossils” (more accurately ancient wildlife such as dinosaurs and jungles or whatnot).

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 22:33 utc | 71

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 22:33 utc | 71
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In the early 2000, I was a defender of the concept of Peak Oil and its consequence for the cost energy, and I still am. What I didn’t know was the during the first months of the Bush / Cheney administration a plan by the major oil companies to increase energy production by fracking was agreed to. Even though I work for several large and small Plant Design Engineering Firms (PDEF), I was unaware that secret competition was going on inside these PDEF’s for several years.
Some laws had to be changed and others enacted to bring fracking to reality, due to the possibility of underground water destruction and property right of ways, both private and municipal. The oil and gas companies were granted almost complete immunity and right away privileges.
The swindle worked, and energy became more abundant but at a higher cost and the expected destruction of underground water tables. My last project before I retired was on an LNG project in Louisiana.
But Peak Oil is still hanging over the head of the Energy Companies because fracking is in fact a product of desperation, and will in time become too expensive to supply the world’s energy needs from the US Energy companies. Many European and other countries have outlawed fracking, preferring to develop renewable energy sources and even Nuclear Power rather than to allow fracking.

Posted by: Ed | Jul 13 2023 23:06 utc | 72

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 22:33 utc | 71
I think you do a disservice to your mind to assume – with a straight face – that the theory of abiotic oil origin is a “wild” theory.
It’s important to know that the fossil origin of oil has never been proved, or even seriously studied, because it was never seriously doubted, and seemed “obvious”. But in fact the “obvious” nature of fossil origin is a classic case of correlation being called causation. It’s never been studied, and never been proved. There is no science to it.
Now, I’m not going to take one side or the other of this see-saw of possibilities.
But I will suggest you read Engdahl’s article on the subject, to see the potential weight of the other end of that seesaw. In my view the balance is worth it:
Peak Oil & Russia – Confessions of an “ex” Peak Oil Believer
Have fun.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 13 2023 23:26 utc | 74

Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 22:33 utc | 71–
That would be the abiotic oil hypothesis, which is demonstrably false. However, on the geologic time scale, all hydrocarbons can be considered renewable.
Ed | Jul 13 2023 23:06 utc | 72–
Were you ever a member of ASPO-USA or a commenter at The Oil Drum blog? I look at US proven reserves of oil and gas at current rates of extraction and see big trouble by 2030. Same goes for electrical power generation as we need to be upping output at the same pace China is to power all the electric cars that will be on the roads in ten years. But given the privatizers, I think the cliff will arrive before enough’s done.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 23:33 utc | 75

Posted by: Ed | Jul 13 2023 23:06 utc | 72
I worked for an engineering consultancy in the early 2000s and we provided telecom (SCADA, other telemetry, IT and comms via point-to-point microwave and T1/3, SONET) design and installation services for the natural gas industry in Texas and New Mexico. Took me to some of the generation plants throughout the state and I actually remember hearing something about that at the time. I left that business before the end of Bush’s 1st term.
Oh, and don’t forget to add earthquakes!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 23:43 utc | 76

“Peak oil” became a popular apocalyptic fantasy after the opec embargo in 1979. A little discomfort, and Americans began to imagine the end of the world, as did their scientists… Well, the ones who made selling magazine subscriptions easier with their science fiction mad max dystopias.
Posted by: UWDude | Jul 13 2023 21:02 utc | 62
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Peak oil is/was a reality. That is why the oil companies and the Bush / Cheney administration made fracking possible and a first order of importance. Fracking is a band aid for Peak Oil.
No Peak Oil proponent never said that the oil supplies will run out in near future, only that the days of driving a pipe into the ground and getting a gusher are over. Therefore, as oil gets harder and harder to retrieve from underground, the extraction cost will rise and the price at the pumps will rise with it. Serious shortages were not expected for 50 or more years. There were some variations on this theme and some people did argue that the shortages could come sooner, like in about 20 to 30 years. But fracking has moved those dates back into the future.
Fracking and shell oil extraction is more expensive than production from a gusher. Chemicals and high-pressure water are injected into the ground, to cause the oil and gas to rise to a surface well. Also, the quality of the oil is different (dirty) as well and must be processed and cleaned differently as well. The largest product from fracking is LNG (Liquid Natural Gas) not crude oil.

Posted by: Ed | Jul 13 2023 23:46 utc | 77

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 23:33 utc | 74
Yes, that’s right. Abiotic was the term I couldn’t recall.
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As an unrelated/unaddressed aside re: my old engineering job in the natgas industry, we also became an all-around MIC contractor during Bush’s first term. So we had a business unit out in Arizona near the US Army’s Intelligence School at Fort Huachuca and a former Army drill sgt. in the SIGNINT/HUMINT world managing our business development for fed/DoD work. Dude managed to land a sole-source contract for something they called “Cultural Awareness” whereby a contractor for our firm would teach officers deploying to the ME (primarily Iraq as it was heating up at the time) all about the culture(s) they might encounter over there. It was a complete joke, and I was never surprised about the abject failure to “win hearts and minds” after sitting in on a class one day. The firm also taught a class – I totally forget what it was called – where we paid minimum wage to people who would go out in the desert, dress up like “Muslims” and participate in staged encounters with American troops. Never got to witness that first hand, but I imagine it was equally stupid. Made a lot of money though and a (literal) $1M Christmas bonus for both the President and the guy out in AZ one year. Man now I won’t be able to stop trying to remember what that one was called….had a rather catchy name.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 23:54 utc | 78

Were you ever a member of ASPO-USA or a commenter at The Oil Drum blog? I look at US proven reserves of oil and gas at current rates of extraction and see big trouble by 2030.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 23:33 utc | 74
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Sorry karlof1, no I was neither a member nor a commenter.

Posted by: Ed | Jul 13 2023 23:55 utc | 79

ed@76
main risk is that wind and solar availability is far overstated, and the recurring cost to yield shoddy availability is grossly understated.
while green fanatics with esg assure too little investment in gas/ oil production….
while the green waste spending and related subsidies of dead end project fuel deficits eroding the currencies of the g7
inflation huge deficits, and rolling blackouts!

Posted by: paddy | Jul 13 2023 23:58 utc | 80

Aha! I know I’m only talking to myself on this, but the contract was named “Role Playing” – Found a description of it on some guy’s resume.
Role playing of Middle Eastern people training military students in culture relations and military interview/interrogation techniques of potential threat or enemy situations.
“Culture relations” LMFAO, Okay if you say so. I mean that’s when I really woke up to the massive boondoggle of American warfare and the MIC. These people were literal McDonald’s workers side hustling for minimum wage. They had zero training of their own, did not speak any language that these troops might encounter in Iraq or Afghanistan, and were essentially just dressed up like comic book stereotype Arabs and hiding in huts that the training troops would go up to. Some of them were told to act erratically. LOL, man those were the days.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 14 2023 0:07 utc | 81

Posted by: suzan | Jul 13 2023 15:27 utc | 13
Thxs for posting that. This is a VERY disturbing document.

The implementation of these decisions is now well advanced. Finland is a NATO member, and in Vilnius the last obstacles to Sweden’s accession were removed. As a result, the land border of NATO member states with Russia has more than doubled in size and has moved to within 150 kilometers of St. Petersburg. The Baltic Sea has become a NATO sea to which Russia has access only via a small corner in St. Petersburg and the besieged enclave of Kaliningrad.
The conflict with Russia is itself part of a blueprint for global domination.
A central focus of the communique is on China, which is accused of employing “a broad range of political, economic, and military tools to increase its global footprint and project power.” It is damaging the alliance’s security with “malicious hybrid and cyber operations” and “confrontational rhetoric and disinformation,” and is attempting “to control key technological and industrial sectors, critical infrastructure, and strategic materials and supply chains.”
The summit declaration declares that the “deepening strategic partnership between the PRC and Russia and their mutually reinforcing attempts to undercut the rules-based international order run counter to our values and interests.”
As with every document produced by the imperialist powers, the NATO communique is rife with hypocrisy. The US and European powers talk about defending national “sovereignty and territorial integrity,” when they themselves have launched wars of aggression in every corner of the globe. They insist on the absolute right of Ukraine to choose its “strategic partners”—that is, to join NATO—but deny that right to China and Russia. They insist on the right of NATO to provide unlimited arms to Ukraine but treat any military assistance to Russia as a veritable act of war.
When the document speaks of upholding a “rules-based international order,” this means an “order” in which every country must do the bidding of the imperialist powers, above all, the United States.
To this end, the “North Atlantic” Treaty Organization has been transformed into a Frankenstein monster that asserts its interests and “values” in every part of the globe. “The Black Sea region is of strategic importance for the Alliance,” the communique states. “The Middle East and Africa are regions of strategic interests. … The Indo-Pacific is important for NATO.”
On what map, one might ask, does the Middle East, let alone the Indo-Pacific, touch the shorelines of the North Atlantic?

I wonder if the situation in the Baltic has changed all that much from the inclusion of Sweden and Finland? Hasn’t NATO always been able to come within spitting distance of St Petersburg given the three baby Baltics are already in NATO? (Which also makes what’s happening in Ukraine viz distance to Moscow somewhat moot, no?)
I remain perplexed, as always, between concern and doubt; concern that the West is consistently and without let up dragging the world into Hell; and doubt that this is all some sort of demonic kayfabe-kabuki in a globalist set up which will result in, once again, ‘we-the-sheeple’ getting sheared as happened to so many during the long, bloody twentieth century.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 14 2023 0:44 utc | 82

@ Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 13 2023 14:51 utc | 4
The strike ended today. The timing sucks for me, as I’ll probably have to plan the ONE Cosmos out of Vancouver not only in the middle of the night but in a huge hurry, but cargo is starting to flow again.

Posted by: Planner | Jul 14 2023 1:02 utc | 83

Isn’t the Chinese word for crisis and opportunity the same? Either way, that’s how to look at it.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 19:31 utc | 40
No, they’re different words as they are in English. It has been a pervasive myth for some time though!
Posted by: Paul_Zed | Jul 13 2023 19:43 utc | 44
“There is great disorder under Heaven: the situation is excellent.” Mao
…[cited in Zizek, Living in the End Times] One doesn’t need to be an expert in the I Ching to figure it out.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 14 2023 1:06 utc | 84

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 14 2023 1:06 utc | 83
The myth gained popularity if not was born in an episode of the Simpsons:
Lisa:. Dad, its not that bad. Did you know the word for “crisis” and the word for “opportunity” are the same in Chinese?
Homer: Yes! Crisitunity!

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 14 2023 1:26 utc | 85

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 23:33 utc | 74
Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 13 2023 22:33 utc | 71–
That would be the abiotic oil hypothesis, which is demonstrably false. However, on the geologic time scale, all hydrocarbons can be considered renewable.
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Haven’t read about this in a very long time, but last I checked the Russians were deep into abiotic oil theory (pun intended) and it’s partly why they zoomed up to World #1 exporter after tapping into a few deep fields, one of which is 12km down.
If you have a concise account of how abiotic has been debunked, would like to read.
Meanwhile, here is an old paper reviewing many different scientists’ views over about a century.
https://web.archive.org/web/20021015163818/www.people.cornell.edu/pages/tg21/usgs.html
And a faster, less thorough summary (from a quick search):
https://atlasreport.substack.com/p/abiotic-oil
People get very excited, even over-heated by this issue. For some reason people are very attached to the fossil fuel theory even though – as the first paper linked explains – it is far more ‘debunked’ than the abiotic explanation, especially since in recent decades we have found hydrocarbons on many other planets which do not have vegetation, water etc. and we have also found bacteria much deeper within the Earth’s mantle than we thought possible decades ago. So if the fossil fuel theory from the 1750’s is wrong, and the abiotic is wrong, what theory is currently ruling the roost?
One little thought: energy industry benefits greatly from having whatever it is using be scarce. Put another way, they have no interest in sourcing energy that is cheap and abundant and indeed have interest in suppressing any such discoveries.
Which is why Japan’s new nuclear-to-hydrogen station, now up and running after years of testing, is so exciting a development. With a few more stations to scale up to meet national needs they can use nuclear power to generate both electricity and hydrogen fuel with which to power adjusted combustion engines which will be far cheaper and less polluting than battery tech, as exciting as that is getting too. The thing is: it gets rid of the scarcity paradigm. All you need to power 100 million people for a century is a reasonable amount of uranium and water and there you are – abundant power. Oh: the thing about the power station is that by using ceramics it is melt-down proof, i.e. catastrophe-proof (- that word again!). Japan has had some bad run-ins with nuclear toxicity and if there is one people in the world motivated to get it right, it is they. Apparently they have done so.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 14 2023 1:50 utc | 86

Ed | Jul 13 2023 23:55 utc | 78–
That’s quite okay Ed. Both were very good experiences and great education. The Oil Drum wasn’t just about hydrocarbons; it was about the entire energy sphere, urban planning, political-economy, and so much more.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 14 2023 2:13 utc | 88

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2023 23:33 utc | 74
You’re not alone. As it happens, one of the reasons that OPEC minister began excluding certain US American reporters from meetings was to handicap speculators and IEA data credibility. Let’s not forget for whom IEA works—Texass. At OPEC, Saudi Arabia defends oil cuts with Russia, despite mild market reaction

“Part of what we have done with the help of our colleagues from Russia was also to mitigate the cynical side of the spectators on what is going between Saudi Arabia and Russia, in that specific matter,” he said, referring to traders who are selling oil off despite the cuts, causing prices to stay low…. He also railed against the International Energy Agency, which has provided conflicting data to OPEC on oil demand [$/bbl/d]. OPEC forecasts oil demand [price/b] to grow to 110 millions bpd by 2045, while the IEA believes that global demand [b/d] for oil will slow significantly by 2028.
[…]
“There is always reviews, and that’s why we have unfortunately—and I say unfortunately—discarded the IEA because the IEA had their own set of numbers,” the Saudi energy minister said. “But then they come and revisit and revise those numbers along with the other anomalies that come out of the IEA, which create a distortion to what the market should see today.”

A week earlier, too, Goehring & Rozencwajg had published an investor note confirming marginal utility of US production. US exploration, output, refining capacity, and profitability respond to OPEC production. This has always been case—although IEA parrots upside investor orders and BEA macro reports—and always will be. Here, Gorozen promote proprietary data crunching to rationalize technical hurdles, but the most dramatic illustration of downside risk since the 1974 embargo is still KSA’s manipulation of the over-leveraged N. American hvy-grade fracking boom.
Permian Basin Is Depleting Faster Than Thought

The shales seemed particularly invincible between 2014 and 2017. In the autumn of 2014, Saudi Arabia stunned the oil markets when it [seemed to have] abandoned its role as a swing producer. [Global] Crude balances shifted into surplus in the middle of 2014, and instead of cutting production to balance the market, Saudi Arabia announced it would grow output by nearly 1 mm b/d. Immediately, crude prices fell by 15% from $75 to $60 per barrel and would drop by 65% over the next eighteen months to bottom at $26 by spring 2016. With much lower prices and capital-intensive drilling, [IEA] shale developers reduced their drilling activity by 80%. In the summer of 2014, the industry turned 1,600 rigs; less than two years later, the rig count stood at only 325…. If we are correct, then the only [crude] source of non-OPEC growth over the past 15 years is about to shift from growth to decline…Finding attractive investment opportunities in shale E&P companies will become very difficult. Here too, we believe our machine-learning models can help. Based on current drilling activity, the average publicly traded Permian company will run out of Tier 1 drilling locations within 3.7 years.

The OPEC+ “balancing” act is geared to conserve market power of actual reservoirs and cost-efficiency over the long run, not accommodate short-term G7 demand for “excess capacity”.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jul 14 2023 2:44 utc | 89

@ Zet | Jul 13 2023 21:08 utc | 63
thanks zet.. i appreciate your perspective as a person living in germany… it is all very bizarre.. i hope the gov’t comes to its senses, but it doesn’t look like it will any time soon..

Posted by: james | Jul 14 2023 2:46 utc | 90

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 14 2023 1:50 utc | 85
Don’t have much time to do reading tonight, but after karlof1 reminded me of the name, I remembered seeing some of those heated debates you refer to. My personal take on it with the ‘benefit’ of a scientific education (way back when) is that there is no feasible mechanism or natural process which can explain the chemical composition and location of fossil fuels except a biological/geological one. I’d be interested to know if any of the abiotic proponents have ever managed to propose a believable theory and/or reproduce any or all of it in a laboratory setting.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 14 2023 3:14 utc | 91

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 14 2023 1:50 utc | 85
Forgot to mention, the hydrocarbons found on other planets are nothing new. They were always hypothesized to be there, in some cases measured or detected ‘indirectly’ – They are less complex molecules. Prebiotic chemistry easily explains extraterrestrial ethane, methane, propane and butane (which are the only ones I can name off the top of my head). None are as complex/dense as oil found on Earth, though, that I know of.
P.S. I was incorrect to mention dinosaurs. That’s not where terrestrial/subsurface oil comes from. https://www.snexplores.org/article/explainer-where-fossil-fuels-come

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 14 2023 3:20 utc | 92

@ Aleph Null 42
Yes, that anti-science position is more popular here in the US and among a number of MoA barflies than one would hope for. Sad…

Posted by: Eddie S | Jul 14 2023 4:26 utc | 93

@ Aleph Null 42 Yes, that anti-science position is more popular … among a number of MoA barflies than one would hope for. Sad…
Posted by: Eddie S | Jul 14 2023 4:26 utc | 92
Sad indeed. But if you are one of the lucky ones who ‘having been born with a high IQ’ (| Jul 13 2023 21:20 utc |) all you need is the I Ching. /s
As primarily a reader here what I find sad is that there was not more discussion of the points made by bevin @ 17:19 utc,
Ahenobarbus @19:40 utc, and Tom_Q_Collins 20:12 utc. That’s where prescriptive solutions for the ‘big pic’ are to be found.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 14 2023 6:08 utc | 94

@Posted by: bevin | Jul 13 2023 17:19 utc | 24
Crooke is far too much of a reactionary old fool these days. The US would have been fine without the “guns and butter” combination, if there was no Vietnam War there would have been no dollar crisis in the early 1970s. The US debt “crisis” of the 1980s, heavily created by Reagan’s tax cuts, had been pretty much solved by 2000 with the US budget near balance. It was Afghanistan, Iraq the GWOT etc. plus the GW Bush tax cuts that exploded the deficits, then the rescue of the criminalized banking system, and then COVID and Trump’s massive tax cuts.
In the UK the Labour Party at the end of the 1970s needlessly turned to neoliberalism and austerity when the North Sea oil money was just starting to flow, delivering the UK to Thatcher. All that oil money was then squandered on tax cuts and other giveaways for the rich, plus mostly sold at the very low prices of the 1990s and early 2000s (as well s the UK gold at the very bottom of the gold price cycle at US$250 per ounce).
The real problem for the elites was “too much democracy” which they had to reverse and return the UK and US back to the robber baron period.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 14 2023 6:19 utc | 95

@Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 13 2023 15:04 utc | 6
Kotkin’s take on the fall of the Soviet Union is so far off the mark to be risible. Gorbachev set about destroying the basis for the lovely lives that the nomenklatura had as he set about removing the primacy of the Communist Party bureaucracy, while at the same time unleashing the corrupt forces within the Party that had been brewing since the death of Stalin (when Khrushchev destroyed the CCP ideology with his outrageous lies). The nomenklatura then jumped on the capitalist bandwagon to monetize their advantages, and thus provide for themselves in a new world without CCP primacy. The lucky ones made out like bandits, many others didn’t. It was a classic passive revolution, nothing to do with street protests.
I have already answered Crooke’s “debt spiked” bullshit above in my reply to Bevin. He is right that China developed a market economy, not a capitalist one, overseen by the party-state. Putin was dealt a shitty hand, which he has played surprisingly well over the years. Russia is not an autarky, it has just made sure that its trading partners are also its friends and allies. Thats why the West couldn’t break it with the sanctions that only 1/8th of humanity implemented.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 14 2023 6:35 utc | 96

The investigation in the North Stream gas pipeline produced little hard results. The investigation in white powder in the White House was shut down. And if V. Zelensky should meet the same fate as other heads of state such as South Vietnamese Prime Minister Ngo Dinh Diem, Panamanian President Manuel Noriega or Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, then that investigation will be unsuccessful,too.

Posted by: Passerby | Jul 14 2023 6:39 utc | 97

@Posted by: james | Jul 13 2023 17:21 utc | 25
This Canuck certainly sees that Canada has been going the wrong way for decades, as many, many of my friends do. The problem is that there is an absolute consensus supporting neoliberalism, mass immigration, and foreign policy adventurism between the dominant Liberals and Conservatives, with the NDP fully supportive of neoliberalism with crumbs and foreign policy adventurism. The Greens are just a bunch of upper middle class liberal progressives. We have become a sad reflection of that country to the south of us, as well as its obedient corgi. The only real argument is over “cultural” issues.
In Ontario, Doug Ford the Premier happily does crooked deals with his mates and doles yet more opportunities to the Canadian oligarch Weston while slashing social and healthcare spending in the most underhand ways possible. All happily unreported by the oligarchic media. We have reached “Inverted Totalitarianism” where the population is made politically inert while the corporations take over the state.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 14 2023 6:48 utc | 98

@Posted by: Passerby | Jul 14 2023 6:39 utc | 96
Now if Biden could trip and fall heavily against Kamala, taking the latter with him to the gates of hell, a lot of the Dems problems may be solved …. and it would all be just a sad accident! With the amount of Coke that Zelensky is taking his heart may explode all by itself.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 14 2023 6:52 utc | 99

I have come to suspect that the decreasing ice in the arctic is one of the hidden motives behind the haste with which the oligarchy tries to make people fight GW. The decreasing ice opens up new trade routes and makes it even harder to contain Russia and the BRICS. While GW due to CO2 emissions is a reality the rate of change is too slow to explain the current panic.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 14 2023 6:54 utc | 100