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July 6, 2023
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 2023-160
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I respond now to Ed’s post above at my 99 – In taking Paul’s words out of context, you cannot do his meaning service, because you have distorted it. There is no further application to be made, since he is speaking of his own personal experience within a religious framework, wheras your use of those words is very like taking sexuality out of its natural human framework and applying it in unnatural ways. Posted by: juliania | Jul 7 2023 13:56 utc | 101 Before I begin at the beginning of this thread, (and before I answer another query from the last Week in Review), I have a suggestion here : could we respect the WiR (and help b somewhat in the process), by keeping our philosophical /religious posts to the Open thread? That way perhaps the week’s reflections wouldn’t be submerged by our smorgasbord of interesting and amazing ideas. Posted by: juliania | Jul 7 2023 15:56 utc | 102 I don’t follow her but I don’t think she has changed her position much. happy to be corrected if wrong. Posted by: denk | Jul 7 2023 16:06 utc | 103 Posted by: denk | Jul 7 2023 16:06 utc | 103 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 7 2023 16:16 utc | 104 Here’s a thing. I am doing a free , government – paid course on Electrical Vehicle Charging Points, which is packaged with a lesser level course on Mental Health. Posted by: Giyane | Jul 7 2023 16:20 utc | 105 denk 103 Posted by: Giyane | Jul 7 2023 16:25 utc | 106 Any deviation from the part line gets noticed, and you get no attention. In any case I don’t think a few fresh faces is going to lead to any substantive reform. Posted by: denk | Jul 7 2023 16:35 utc | 107 He probably does need a daily reminder of his name and job every morning. Posted by: denk | Jul 7 2023 16:38 utc | 108 Posted by: denk | Jul 7 2023 16:35 utc | 107 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 7 2023 16:42 utc | 109 108 denk Posted by: Giyane | Jul 7 2023 16:49 utc | 110 BeMildred Posted by: Giyane | Jul 7 2023 17:05 utc | 111 Here was a question for me in the last WiR:
Thanks, psychohistorian. Definitely lots about human to human relationships as I and Thou begins with those. I haven’t read a lot of his works on that subject beyond this small work, but as folk on the previous threads have been discussing modern European philosophers, probably much of what Buber is saying here relate to those as well; he was in Germany when he wrote this in 1937, with a postscript he added to my slim paperback edition in 1957 from Jerusalem. Posted by: juliania | Jul 7 2023 17:10 utc | 112 China had invested less than Russia in Iran, despite Beijing’s promise of $400B in investment. Posted by: Additional Seaweed | Jul 7 2023 17:48 utc | 113 Please tell me : how is « Crimea » pronounced ? Posted by: Featherless | Jul 7 2023 17:56 utc | 114 Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 6 2023 22:06 utc | 39 Posted by: juliania | Jul 7 2023 18:59 utc | 115 A$$hole Rutte IV Is Gone Someone mentioned this earlier Posted by: jpc | Jul 7 2023 20:13 utc | 117 An excellent offering from New Cold War by the Toronto-based international lawyer and writer, Christopher Black: Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 7 2023 20:30 utc | 118 Oui | Jul 7 2023 19:02 utc | 116 Posted by: dh | Jul 7 2023 21:39 utc | 119 Exactly … the “migration crisis” has been abated by war refugees … mostly self-created by NATO alliance. The true number of asylum seekers has stabilized at 34,000 each year from pre pandemic level. The rest is VVD party narrative to win votes from Geert Wilders. Shameless Oui | Jul 7 2023 19:02 utc | 116 Posted by: jpc | Jul 7 2023 22:03 utc | 121 Featherless: strictly speaking, the correct pronunciation of “Crimea” is “Krim.” But an acceptable alternative pronunciation is “Russian.” Posted by: malenkov | Jul 7 2023 23:20 utc | 122 Why would the removal of sulphates in the atmosphere affect whether ships can use high sulphur bunker fuel or not? I just don’t get it? Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 8 2023 0:47 utc | 124 Smear campaign again certain Muslims in Europe, paid by…. another Muslim country’s government: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/04/03/the-dirty-secrets-of-a-smear-campaign Posted by: Antonym | Jul 8 2023 1:02 utc | 125 https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 8 2023 1:07 utc | 126 July 8 Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 8 2023 1:29 utc | 127 @ Echo Chamber Posted by: malenkov | Jul 8 2023 1:39 utc | 128 Boy @ 123 Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 8 2023 1:51 utc | 129 oldhippie: kinda sucks, doesn’t it, to live in a world where you have to be a woke American imperialist to concede the possibility that pollution and climate change (and even COVID) might be real, and that to believe that Donbass lives matter necessarily entails rejecting such notions as, well, most of science . . . you get the idea. Posted by: malenkov | Jul 8 2023 2:12 utc | 130 @ oldhippie | Jul 8 2023 1:51 utc | 131 Posted by: whirlX | Jul 8 2023 2:53 utc | 131 Sanctions are a double edged sword as the world will soon learn. Posted by: Paul GV | Jul 8 2023 3:26 utc | 132 I just have to tell you all that I’m tired of all the bullshit. It never ends. A lot of us here in the belly of the beast know we’re getting fucked. But there’s nothing we can do. A police state needs a lot of police. And we have a plethora of them. Cheers from the dark side. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jul 8 2023 3:30 utc | 133 I apologize if I’ve somehow offended anyone, especially b, whom I hold in high esteem. I’ve only told the truth as I see it. Cheers and peace on this bedraggled planet Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jul 8 2023 3:38 utc | 134 Interview: Judge Napolitano’s sit down with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. [30 mins] Posted by: juliania | Jul 8 2023 4:41 utc | 135 With Erdogan, he is already taking so much aggressive responses from the West I wonder why he doesn’t just take the move. Ego and the mirage of his “greater Turkey” clouding his judgement? Modi is at an earlier phase of this conundrum. Posted by: Deeplurker | Jul 8 2023 5:25 utc | 136 Re: Antonym | Jul 8 2023 1:02 utc | 127 The dollar, and by extension the euro, is like Marlboro cigarettes twenty years ago: business is good, but the customers want to quit, and those that don’t are dying. Posted by: Passerby | Jul 8 2023 8:54 utc | 138 whirlX @ 131 Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 8 2023 10:54 utc | 139 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 7 2023 13:31 utc | 97 Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 8 2023 12:15 utc | 140 UBER under a job guarentee Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 8 2023 12:27 utc | 141 From Canada – British humour alert. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 8 2023 13:54 utc | 142 Montreal’s La Presse talks Zelensky and asks ‘what now?’ about those riots in France. Videos included. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 8 2023 13:59 utc | 143 Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 7 2023 3:58 utc | 64 Posted by: horseguards | Jul 8 2023 14:04 utc | 144 to believe that Donbass lives matter necessarily entails rejecting such notions as, well, most of science Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 8 2023 14:11 utc | 145 Joe Lauria’s summary of continuing Prigozhin issues might be of interest to you… Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 8 2023 14:24 utc | 146 I saw that as precisely the point; the only value that matters (in the art world) is the economic value. Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 8 2023 14:37 utc | 147 Why would Vladimir Putin extend the grain deal ? Because he would have no other trump card to play. All of ties with the western bloc had been severed. Narendra Modi said to Vladimir Putin that he would be on Washington’s side. Chinese government claimed to make amends with the western bloc. Russian elites are alone and would’ve to obey to Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Posted by: Ahmet Akdeniz | Jul 8 2023 15:12 utc | 148 “When folks want to believe that physical science is some kind of hoax, they cannot be reached.” Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 8 2023 15:29 utc | 149 I rather doubt Erdogan has forgotten America’s effort to kill him. That sort of thing has a tendency to stick in a person’s mind and color their decisions for a while. Let’s try and avoid hysteria over minor events and look at larger trends instead. Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 8 2023 15:30 utc | 150 Alex Krainer, whom I know nothing about, writes his take on the burning of France, “France Under Attack.” Kramer suggests a UK color revolution of a sort is occurring.
I am wondering if any of this holds water. The constructed narrative is interesting. Posted by: suzan | Jul 8 2023 16:17 utc | 151 @ oldhippie | Jul 8 2023 1:51 utc | 129 Posted by: suzan | Jul 8 2023 16:31 utc | 152
Russian literature: Nikolai Gogol Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 8 2023 17:18 utc | 153 Very influential columnist at the tied at the hip with the MIC, and the Democratic party, the New York Times, Maureen Dowd, imo just provided a plausible reason for Democrats to bail on President Joe Biden, and then let the polling numbers say he can’t run to get re-elected. I abide by “the four paragraph rule”, so I’m picking two blocks of words by Dowd from near the end of her column.
P.S. A couple of Democrats in Congress spoke out against the deployment of cluster munitions in Ukraine. I’m nursing hope that America is turning the corner on regaining some sanity. Lindsay Graham nearly getting booed off stage in his own state by his own voters was also cause for hope. Posted by: Babel-17 | Jul 8 2023 18:57 utc | 154 Dear juliana, I second your suggestion to deconflict the upcoming WiR with our metaphysical deliberations, by keeping the latter confined at length to this thread, while leaving brief, possibly hyperlinked notes over there to inform interested readers. Posted by: persiflo | Jul 8 2023 19:17 utc | 155 suzan @ 152 Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 8 2023 21:02 utc | 156 @ suzan | Jul 8 2023 16:17 utc | 151 – “Alex Krainer, whom I know nothing about” Posted by: Grieved | Jul 8 2023 23:23 utc | 157 Could be we just saw tipping point zero in real time. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 8 2023 23:36 utc | 158 Has the color revolution in France succeeded yet or does the USA need to apply more pressure?
And much more on each of those points. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 9 2023 5:51 utc | 159 I just have to post this delight from the Alex Krainer link in my #159 post above:
Note that feature of the USA governing scumbags – theft of bullion. Consistent! Perhaps the Biden Crime Family has a slab or two after the recent caper in Ukraine when he was VPres for Obummer. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 9 2023 9:52 utc | 160
Thats all there is to read. They had the gall to demand payment for any more of this diversionary, traitorous crap. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 9 2023 10:13 utc | 161 Russian embassy land approved by Australian Traditional Owners.
source:https://t.me/two_majors/9297 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 9 2023 11:08 utc | 162 Aleph Null @ 158 Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 9 2023 11:22 utc | 163 Posted by: bobzibub | Jul 9 2023 3:17 Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 9 2023 11:47 utc | 164 EC, Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2023 12:09 utc | 165 The devil will be in the detail of the new BRICS currency and don’t worry those that know how money works will be all over it like a rash when it is finally released. Highlighting its strengths and weaknesses. Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 9 2023 12:14 utc | 166 EC, Posted by: Echo Chamber | Jul 9 2023 12:57 utc | 167 Barflies, Posted by: Exile | Jul 9 2023 13:04 utc | 168 Spanish Election coming up soon. Posted by: Julian | Jul 10 2023 16:10 utc | 169 @Arch Bungle in the Ukraine thread Posted by: Membrum Virile | Jul 10 2023 21:57 utc | 170 |
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