Wagelaborer no. 2
And they call freedom fighters “terrorists”.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jun 11 2023 14:54 utc | 4

Vladimir Zelensky, Russian Hero?
During his tenure as president of (what remains of) THE Ukraine, Zelensky has wrecked THE Ukraine, but has achieved many great things… for Russia.
Here are his main achievements in no particular order:
• By being elected with the promise of ending hostilities, then immediately proceeding to escalate the conflict in the east, he thoroughly compromised what was left of Ukrainian democracy. He further demolished the Ukraine’s civic realm by banning all public media except for one government channel, banning all opposition and all Russian news sources and, in effect, establishing a totalitarian dictatorship.
• By relentlessly shelling the civilians in the now Russian Donetsk and Lugansk regions, then, in the spring of 2022, threatening them with a genocidal assault, he provided Russia with an ironclad reason to start the Special Military Operation: to save civilian lives. By so doing, he helped to expand Russian territory by four very valuable provinces (Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson) and set the stage for the eventual addition of, among others, Nikolaev, Odessa, Kharkov, and Kiev regions.
• He squandered $150 billion in foreign aid (much of it by the simple expedient of stealing it), expended a huge amount of military equipment and ammunition with nothing to show for it, and killed off 350 thousand Ukrainian soldiers (many of them Nazi war criminals), with possibly twice as many wounded.
• He shrunk his country’s population by almost half, some of it moving to Russia, becoming Russian citizens and integrating productively into the Russian population while rest went to the European Union, becoming a major burden for the welfare budgets of EU countries.
• By ordering Ukrainian troops to shell schools, kindergartens, hospitals and apartment buildings in universally recognized Russian regions such as Belgorod and by launching drone attacks directly on the Kremlin, he declared his government to be a terrorist organization, foreclosing any possibility of forcing Russia to negotiate a peace that would not be entirely on its own terms.
• He demonstrated the superiority of Russian weapons and military technique over NATO’s, most recently with Russia’s destruction of one of the Patriot missile batteries provided by the US. Almost every bit of equipment the West has been able to provide to the Ukrainians has been shown to be inferior to its Russian counterpart.
• He gave the Russian army ample opportunities to perfect their techniques for defeating NATO forces, venturing into new areas of drone warfare and battlefield surveillance from geostationary satellites. This will no doubt be very useful both in opposing NATO and in boosting future weapons sales to non-Western nations that wish to be free from Western oppression and meddling.
• He sold some of the weapons he received from the US to Mexican drug cartels, leaving US officials with no other choice than closing their eyes and pretending that this did not happen. Perhaps they will also be forced to look the other way as these cartels make use of these weapons to take over more and more of US cities and towns.
• He played host to many high-ranking Western officials, whom, on their to visit to Kiev, he presented with lavish presents such as suitcases of foreign aid money he had laundered, which these officials then brought home in diplomatic baggage, thus collecting blackmail material on all of them.
• He set an example for other Russian Jews whose bad luck had caused them to end up in the Ukraine rather than in Russia by resettling his parents in a posh neighborhood in Israel. But he kept his wife by his side, where she did a good job demoralizing the Ukrainian population by squandering more money on a single European shopping spree than most Ukrainians see in several lifetimes, all paid for by the US taxpayer. She also worked hard to gaslight Western officials by making them accept at face value and repeat ridiculous tales, such as the one about Russian troops being issued viagra, for them to better rape Ukrainian women.
• Zelensky is sometimes incautious; for instance, he got caught appointing operatives from Russia’s Federal Security Service (former KGB) to sensitive posts within the Ukrainian defense establishment, although it is unclear whether what’s left of the Ukrainian judiciary will be capable of prosecuting him.
• One of his greatest achievements was in placing the US and NATO in a zugzwang. This is a chess term for a situation in which a player has a choice of several moves, all of which lead to defeat. The US and NATO can either continue supporting the Ukraine, or they can stop supporting the Ukraine; in either case, they will lose.
• Perhaps his greatest achievement of all was in helping Russia turn away from its hostile neighbors in the West and toward friendly countries in Asia, Middle East, Africa and Latin America, cutting its economic, financial and cultural ties to the West and freeing itself from Western influences. His unwavering support for Ukrainian Nazis, whose emblems, insignia and slogans are styled after Nazi Germany and whose heroes are Nazi collaborators, coupled with the lavish support they received from the West, whose leaders chose to turn a blind eye toward their fascist proclivities, cemented in view of the Russians the view of the West as their existential enemy: a fascist, racist entity determined to destroy Russia but too weak and cowardly to do the job themselves.

Posted by: Mael Amelyk | Jun 11 2023 15:03 utc | 6

And, they call terrorists freedom fighters…

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 15:10 utc | 8

“Whatever happened to Peppermint Patty?”
Lol, I’m assuming you’re referring to former White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki.
She moved on to a gig at MSNBC where she’s stunned even those inured to being stunned by the depths she’ll sink to so as to act to the benefit of the establishment controlling the Democratic party.
Sigh, they grow up so fast! Enjoy this pic of her from what I think were her university days, on a trip to Russia.
https://i.postimg.cc/2558XPMc/Comrade-Psaki.jpg

Posted by: Babel-17 | Jun 11 2023 15:12 utc | 10

The Ukrainian offensive is still ongoing, despite initial setbacks. A salute to the warriors there on both sides. The sooner the west’s leadership suffers a measurable defeat the better. Hopefully ukraine just leaves the western war materials behind and refuses to fight.
Or russia could blow it up, but really there’s no need for white Christians to keep blowing up other white Christians.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 11 2023 15:16 utc | 12

@ Mael Amelyk | Jun 11 2023 15:03 utc | 8
If you’re going to cut/paste someone else’s writing, at least attribute it properly.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 11 2023 15:31 utc | 14

“Asia, Africa and South America are looking at US allies as the aggressors’ sidekick”
Lester Pearson, a Liberal Prime Minister of Canada and a determined Diplomat, built small in stature but large in influence, Canada, into a reasoned, honest broker. He kept Canadian relations solid with the Soviet Union and Cuba, to the chagrin of the USA. Canada sold wheat to the USSR when Soviet harvests failed.
And this Canadian/Soviet relationship was vital when the USA overstepped in vocal belligerence visa-vi Russia, because there always was Canada to fall back on for an avenue of Western/Soviet Communications.
Now, as fate and some CCP backdoor money would have it, Pearson’s Justice Minister, come Prime Minister, begat a spoiled child, who road into power on name and no credentials, who dutifully took instructions from money and outside power, summarily destroying any Canadian diplomatic punching power, by becoming a supplicant nation, dancing (often literally), for the amusement of Europe and the USA.
Not, of itself an imperative in World Relations, but another brick out of the wall/foundation of Diplomacy. Canada, J. Trudeau and Diplomacy now orphans which no Politician on earth wants to acknowledge.
Pity Ukraine, always surrounded on all sides, from the north, west, east and south with danger, and when skills were required, fools were placed in by the U.S. State Department and Dirty Money.
Shame on Canada for becoming just another belligerent, rather than a Peacekeeper.

Posted by: kupkee | Jun 11 2023 15:37 utc | 16

Mael Amelyk no. 8
What a legacy for such a little……(fill in the blank)

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jun 11 2023 15:38 utc | 18

@ Mael Amelyk | Jun 11 2023 15:03 utc | 8
If you’re going to cut/paste someone else’s writing, at least attribute it properly.
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 11 2023 15:31 utc | 17
Attribution should be to Dmitry Orlov (writer, not hockey player), as most here are aware, since plagiarized except was long ago posted here WITH attribution.

Posted by: Revelo | Jun 11 2023 15:45 utc | 20

I was one of the original MOA posters, right from the start. I do read some of b’s posts (v. good on certain topics) and the comments from time to time. Heh. So here I am posting again…
Pagan at 17 (other thread) is right on. Quote:
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Every one talks about the prevalence of propaganda in this war, as something not seen before. The interesting thing is that most commentators, even those who recognize propaganda, somehow ascribe the lies told by Western politicians and media as credulous and uncritical repeating of Ukraine propaganda machine. It is interesting because all such claims are in themselves Western media propaganda.
To believe that a poor country which was completely taken over by Western managers in 2014, developed a powerful propaganda machine with unbounded influence over Western media and political domains all by itself is unbelievable. All one has to do in order to dismiss all such claims is review Western propaganda during bombing campaign of Serbia in 1999, preparations of wars against Iraq in 2003 and against Libya in 2011. Who was feeding the outrageous lies to Western media and politicians then?
To ascribe agency to Ukrainian president, its government and armed forces, all of whom are on the payroll of Western governments, is to fall for Western propaganda and that somehow escapes the commentators including those we all admire. To denounce the West as the sole managers of this war is perhaps a step too far for many.
Posted by: Pagan | Jun 10 2023 14:25 utc | 17
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hello to james, Hoarse W, bevin, Piotr, tungsten, oldhippie, pretzel, and many others, apologies for not naming everyone, — I have no news of rgiap.

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 11 2023 15:48 utc | 22

Possible ZELENSKY Speech after the AFU Offensive is Over:
We did progress mightily against tough Russian positions all along the zero line, except in Kherson. We would have progressed mightily there too if Putin had not blown the dam upstream.
If we only had obained more air defense and lots of F-16s before our brave offensive, we would be having breakfast in Moscow tomorrow morning.
For all of you who helped, just know that you obviously did not help enough for our AFU forces have committed and paid the ultimate price. We just were up against too much resistance. (tear, tear, tear)
Next time, we need many more Patriot systems with plenty of rockets. Even though we prefer the Patriot Systems, we gladly will accept working S-300s or S-400s. Plenty of F-16s and F-35s along with trained pilots and maintenance crews would be great. More tanks and Bradleys and artillery would, for sure, be icing on the cake.
We could use a lot more of those HIMARS. Longer range missiles are most desired. And, by all means, don’t forget to keep those billion dollar checks rolling in to support our cause to weaken and to destroy the Russian threat.
In closing, if you have any spare nukes just laying around, not being used, they would come in handy, too. Of course, WE NEVER would use a nuke directly against Russia. You can absolutely trust us on this one! (wink, wink)
Meanwhile, all of NATO is invited to directly enter the conflict against Russia. With our combined and coordinated effort we can and will take Russia down.
Hope to see you soon in Moscow for breakfast.

Posted by: young | Jun 11 2023 16:01 utc | 24

Official: The first victory of the Ukrainians in the counter-offensive. They recaptured the village of Blahodatne.
The Ukrainian army liberated the village of Blahodatne, located on the border of the Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts. This is the first known effect of the Ukrainian counteroffensive.

Shouts the western MSM…
Now, what is this “village of Blahodatne”?
It was in the gray zone, just like yesterday, nobody needs it, so it remained there. For it lies deep in the valley, and literally 1-2 km to the west (on a hill and across the river) there are really the Russian positions. As they are now. That is, most likely, on an armored car, a group of several people entered the ruins in neutral and recorded their video with the flag raising for the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. How many of these videos have we seen?
But for the ‘western’ MSM…The first victory of the Ukrainians in the counter-offensive.
Lovely!

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 16:05 utc | 26

Model airplane ISR drones don’t fly in the rain. Drones are fragile. …
Posted by: too scents | Jun 11 2023 15:34 utc | 18
I’d guess regular copter drones can also be made pretty hardy as well:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bba_PAy1AyU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yU8wQgVMEcM

Posted by: anon2020 | Jun 11 2023 16:11 utc | 28

For there is nothing new under the sun.” Don Keytale@11
Not where you’re concerned, anyway: it is always the same old nonsense :” Its all kabuki theatre… the Empire always prevails… resistance is hopeless… ”
It is a very tired routine: cynicism and defeatism posing as wisdom.
Posted by: bevin | Jun 11 2023 15:43 utc | 22
It could also be called Hegelian view of history. Namely, history has a logic of its own and most individuals have zero real influence, including many individuals at the top of the hierarchy. China’s rise was inevitable, thus conflict between USA and rising China was inevitable, and since control of Russia is only USA hope for controlling China, conflict between USA and Russia was inevitable, thus USA interference in former USSR states was inevitable, etc. Perhaps Ukraine was inevitably fated to succumb to USA interference (because of older history of Galicia). Regardless, since it did succumb, war between Russia and Ukraine became inevitable, and now eventual Russian victory is inevitable because China has Russia’s back.
Inevitable means that politicians, bureaucrats, journalists and other leaders who try to interfere with the process get pushed aside. USA leaders who urged acceptance of China’s rise and peace with Russia were pushed aside. Ukrainians leaders who tried to keep Ukraine in Russia’s sphere of influence were pushed aside. Had Putin not done something about USA moving into Ukraine, he would have been pushed aside.
Inevitable at the big picture level doesn’t mean all details are inevitable. In particular, individuals can anticipate which way the machine of history is turning and position themselves to avoid being crushed by it. Ukrainian men of military age, for example, could have made early efforts to flee Ukraine, assuming they were poor and hence unable to pay bribe money to avoid conscription. Staying abreast of history in the making can be very useful to the individual, even if such knowledge doesn’t change history.

Posted by: Revelo | Jun 11 2023 16:16 utc | 30

@Babel 17 @13
Nope, that was Jen Psaki at least after 2015. Psaki was a State Department spokeshole since 2013, but that’s Maria Zakharova beside her in the photo, and she was appointed to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 2015.

Posted by: Mark | Jun 11 2023 16:17 utc | 32

Still no sign of the Challenger tanks. And what is happening with the M1Abrams? It will all be over by the time they get there.

Posted by: dh | Jun 11 2023 16:38 utc | 34

Posted by: too scents | Jun 11 2023 16:16 utc | 36
I’ve flown a light aircraft once on a tryout with absolutely zero experience or training. Very enjoyable but I’d neither the funds nor work prospects to take it further.
Battlefield surveillance drones are a different matter, weather capability is a chapter heading of the ongoing drone arms race.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jun 11 2023 16:40 utc | 36

is NATO an incorporated entity?
Does NATO own any patents or copyrights?
Is it possible for NATO to become a bankrupt?

Posted by: snake | Jun 11 2023 16:42 utc | 38

Posted by: dh | Jun 11 2023 16:38 utc | 42
There was some rumor that UK has attached so many strings to the usage of their tanks that they have been simply deployed to some non front-line area where a low risk of combat.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 11 2023 16:46 utc | 40

@ anon2020 | Jun 11 2023 16:40 utc | 45
Pay attention to the shadows in drone battlefield imagery. As the shadows disappear the battlefield images become scarce. Towards morning and evening when it is humid temperature inversions frequently bring the ceiling down to the ground. Fog can also collect inside of optical imagers.
Small drones are the opposite of robust.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 11 2023 16:49 utc | 42

@ Noirette | Jun 11 2023 15:48 utc | 22
hey! great to see you! your commentary and support of pagans is right on of course!

Posted by: james | Jun 11 2023 16:53 utc | 44

USA leaders who urged acceptance of China’s rise and peace with Russia were pushed aside.
Posted by: Revelo | Jun 11 2023 16:16 utc | 35
No one was pushed aside because they are all the same. If someone says they want peace they’re lying for votes, like orange boy who might get an orange dress in the near future, or no one important.
BTW, nato+ wants to include India now. India is currently refusing (at least they were on June 9) but they also called China an aggressor in the same sentence. Very not multipolar

Posted by: rk | Jun 11 2023 16:56 utc | 46

So far, NATO actually seems better at the special forces/sabotage/terroristic stuff than at actual mano a mano conventional warfare.

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 11 2023 17:02 utc | 48

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Possibly worse than that. Since it is charter by a sovereign state there is probably a major liability clause in the charter. It makes it possible for Canadian assets with any ties to Canadian State to be seized anywhere on earth

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jun 11 2023 17:10 utc | 50

“I think that the neocons suffer from Karl Rove syndrome, the so called ‘reality based community.’
We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again”
Karl Rove lives in a Safe Space with Padded Walls, in a well-fitted suit with long sleeves that tie at the back. Within this space Karl can conjure up many realities, instantly, and often. Even the heat from external sources, evaporating Karl’s reality, cannot persuade the USSA’s Karls of their conjured alternative reality.
Watching an Empire die at their own hands is both exhilarating and
somehow very sad. Too bad they have to force their neighbors and their own ignorant citizens to the slaughter as they snort another line of Political coke.

Posted by: kupkee | Jun 11 2023 17:16 utc | 52

“at least three Patriot air defense systems and at least two German Iris air defense systems, as well as new batches of MANPADS … to achieve a turning point in the situation at the front … as well as drown out GPS signals”
unimperator | Jun 11 2023 17:18 utc | 52
When you read that you should stop, it’s how diversity hire retards from UK usually write. Didn’t Zely ask for something around 50 patriots a week ago? GPS jamming and hacking is very old news too.

Posted by: rk | Jun 11 2023 17:30 utc | 54

Acco Hengst | Jun 11 2023 17:15 utc | 50
You obviously know more about tanks than me. It’s taking ages to replace the DU ammo.
All I can say is they better get into action soon or the Saudis will want their money back. MBS is already unhappy about the US.

Posted by: dh | Jun 11 2023 17:31 utc | 56

Great to see that Noirette is back! We missed you dearly.

Posted by: Minaa | Jun 11 2023 17:35 utc | 58

Largely agree, although S Harper deserves part of the credit for destroying Canada’s foreign policy.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Jun 11 2023 17:32 utc | 56
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The delusion that there is any meaningful difference between the right and left factions in Western politics is what keeps people trapped impotently voting for a change towards rationality, morality, and decency.
All of the candidates are scumbags or cowards. All of them. We can vote until Kingdom Come, and it’s not going to change a thing because the bureaucracy and institutional inertia are too great.
Was Harper a stooge? Yes. Is Trudeau a clown? Absolutely. Has anything meaningful changed in Canadian politics when one faction took over for the other? Not really. And that is exactly where the elite wants us. Frantically pointing fingers at and shouting about things we cannot change while ignoring living our lives as best we can for the benefit of our communities and family.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 11 2023 17:39 utc | 60

BroncoBilly @ 17
I am not brave enough for Sunday morning talk shows. Print only. Also have not owned a TV for about 20 years.
Arch Bungle @ 25
Information operations were a high priority for CIA immediately from 1947. Hollywood and the intelligentsia periodicals were first, eventually they would have everything. It is a huge portfolio to manage and I think you may be correct that daily news has become a military project. Feels that way. Remember Wild Bill Casey, “We will know our information operations have been a success when everything the American public believes is false.”
Locally I am seeing an uptick of blue and yellow flags and We Stand With Ukraine signs. That had subsided, seems to be back. Not seeing SS runes and black suns so much, the tryzaub is the new symbol. Still not so much as March, April, May 2022 but quite visible. We’ve always had a big population locally of Polish idiots. What I call Odessa Jews are also very fervent about Ukraine. (They self-describe as Russian Jews, Ukrainian Jews, Polish Jews, Lithuanian Jews depending which way the wind blows.)

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 11 2023 17:44 utc | 62

Cheer for whomever you fancy, as it comes across merely as defensive reaction to a profoundly underachieving conservative death echo-submerging globalist polarization.
And ignore that U 2 as well as me 3 are drowning in the same sea of neo-imperial fascist vacuity as followers of either Trumped, Bidet, Puto or zeeeeee.
For there is nothing new under the sun.
Posted by: Don Keytale | Jun 11 2023 15:12 utc | 11
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So, Don, you are pure and devoid of prejudice. Is that the point that you wish to make?
Please Don, direct me towards any media of any type anywhere in the world, be it Ukraine, Russia, the US, or anywhere on planet earth, which doesn’t represent some form of bias; their own.
What difference does it make if the US and the EU media is helping, supporting, and shaping the Ukrainian media’s propaganda? This is their war to advance NATO onto the border with Russia, isn’t it?
The question is what side are you on? Do you despise them all equally? Do you support US international and economic hegemony, or oppose it? Surely, you have a bias of some kind.

Posted by: Ed | Jun 11 2023 17:46 utc | 64

@Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 11 2023 17:39 utc | 59
“Was Harper a stooge? Yes. Is Trudeau a clown? Absolutely. Has anything meaningful changed in Canadian politics when one faction took over for the other? Not really. And that is exactly where the elite wants us. Frantically pointing fingers at and shouting about things we cannot change while ignoring living our lives as best we can for the benefit of our communities and family.”
Exactly.

Posted by: Roger | Jun 11 2023 17:47 utc | 66

From the Grey Zone, Wagner’s telegram channel.
According to the updated data, by the second half of the day it is possible to be ESTIMATELY guided by the fact that the enemy has managed to advance in recent days at a distance of up to 6-7 kilometers. At the moment, Neskuchnoye and Blagodatnoye settlements are confidently under his control on the Vremievsky ledge. The settlement of Storozhevoye is also presumably occupied, from there the enemy pressed under the settlement of Makarovka, which is still controlled by us. On the other side of the Wet Yaly River, the enemy is conducting offensive operations against our troops located in the settlement of Urozhaynoye.

Posted by: L | Jun 11 2023 17:58 utc | 68

What I call Odessa Jews are also very fervent about Ukraine. (They self-describe as Russian Jews, Ukrainian Jews, Polish Jews, Lithuanian Jews depending which way the wind blows.)
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 11 2023 17:44 utc | 61
Odessa Mama.
Yiddish song.

Posted by: FromFrance | Jun 11 2023 18:06 utc | 70

In the spring, everyone laughed at the Russian counter-offensive at Vugledar, but no one drew any conclusions, and now the whole world has heard footage of the columns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine being destroyed on the march, without even starting a battle.
During the first days of the counteroffensive, we were unable to open the enemy’s first line of defense, while losing more than a hundred pieces of equipment.
If frontal attacks continue, then our reserves will last for 2-3 weeks, after which the Armed Forces of Ukraine will lose all Western equipment transferred this year by our partners.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18223

Posted by: Down South | Jun 11 2023 18:10 utc | 72

Healthy military commissars are in no hurry to the front line, but they brought a summons to a peasant without legs on prostheses!
TCK continue to demonstrate total incompetence, after serving the summons to an 8-year-old boy, nothing surprises anymore!
Zelensky promised to send military commissars to the front, but so far the issue has hung.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18226

Posted by: Down South | Jun 11 2023 18:12 utc | 74

Shame on Canada for becoming just another belligerent, rather than a Peacekeeper.
Posted by: kupkee | Jun 11 2023 15:37 utc | 16
Yes, Justin Trudeau is the culmination of Canada’s descent into US neocolonialism. His father would be rolling in his grave. Worth pointing out that Canada’s experience of trade liberalisation with the US (NAFTA onward) has resulted in a country and economy which has lost industrial self-sufficiency in the rush to sell basic resources across the border. Once Canada had its own foreign policy, for example on Vietnam. Now Trudeau prostrates himself before the sweaty clown of Kyiv.

Posted by: tom paine | Jun 11 2023 18:14 utc | 76

🔥 At night, the Armed Forces of Ukraine increased pressure on the Vremievsky ledge (Mariupol direction), where they achieved operational success.
Despite the opinion of many experts, we consider this direction to be secondary: there are too many risks (flank strikes, the inability to rely on natural suburbs) of a breakthrough to Mariupol.
However, the breakthrough is important in that it undermines the primary defense of the RF Armed Forces and forces them to take emergency measures, transferring reserves precisely here.
The weakening of the defense is important in that it will equalize the proportion of losses by using flank attacks (and not just in the forehead), as well as using weapons more effectively, for example, drones, which are now ineffective against echeloned electronic warfare☝🏻
The current loss ratio is objectively unacceptable. Even Arestovich described them as “meat assaults” ‼️

https://t.me/ZeRada1/14196

Colleagues, the Zaporozhye front is so saturated with Russian troops that we have no other option than a “meat assault.”
The main question remains who will have more reserves and how long the Armed Forces of Ukraine are ready to go into such assaults, we observed from Bakhmut that such scenarios can end very quickly and not give a result.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18231

Posted by: Down South | Jun 11 2023 18:16 utc | 78

I’d guess you’ve never flown a light plane into IFR conditions.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 11 2023 16:16 utc | 31
I did (I’m an instrument-rated pilot). Rain alone doesn’t make for IMC (Instrument Meteorological Conditions). It’s visibility which matters – and visibility limits depend on speed (IFR landings are still visual except Class 3 – fully automatic).
Rotor drones can move slowly so technically they don’t need that much visibility. OTOH they need visibility for stabilizing their position over the ground and for collision avoidance. 20-30 ft is enough, and that is moderately dense fog. Can’t do much surveiling in these conditions anyway unless you use IR camera (fog is more transparent in near IR). AFAIK there are drones equipped with main IR camera, but no drones having IR cams for stabilization and collision avoidance.
The loitering munitions generally rely on GPS/GLONASS (some, like Lancet, augment that with inertial navigation) in cruise and optical or IR seeker/camera for terminal guidance. These are a lot less weather-sensitive.

Posted by: averros | Jun 11 2023 18:17 utc | 80

🔥🔥🔥 What is Budanov silent about?
Colleagues, “meat assaults” are a necessary part of a prepared defense breakthrough with layered air defense and electronic warfare.
In this case, synchronization is important. If after 3 weeks the Dnieper below Kakhovka becomes shallow, and the islets turn into solid ground, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have a chance to establish crossings in several places.
Remember the photo from Romania with pantones? And what about the training of engineers in Germany with their crossing equipment?
Forcing a water barrier at 1 km and at 300 meters, these are two big differences☝🏻
In a couple of weeks, the Russian Federation will expose the rear of the Zaporizhzhya group on the front 80 km long‼️
In 15-20 days (maybe earlier), when the battles enter the decisive phase, the entire defense system, the VKS, etc. will be overstressed. a decisive blow can be delivered through the shallowed Dnieper, in a place where there is no guilty defense.
That is why Ukraine abruptly blocked the discharge of water from the DneproHES. And the maximum filling of the Kakhovka reservoir before the collapse was necessary in order to flood the territories on the left bank as much as possible, with minefields, fortifications, dugouts, etc. The deeper it washed away, the easier it is to storm later☝🏻
+ The Russian Federation could always blow up the dam itself and wash away the crossings, cutting off those who landed on the left bank. And now they don’t have this trump card🤷

https://t.me/ZeRada1/14197

British intelligence has already received information that the Russian army is preparing a new line of defense on the left bank of the Dnieper, which means that both sides have begun to prepare for this scenario.
We watched how the Russian artillery calmly killed part of the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, when it gathered in one place in the Zaporozhye direction and these shots flew around the world, can you imagine if they work like that on the crossing?
The question is how much water can be held back in the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station and what the consequences will be, but the Dnieper bed will not dry out, which means that long crossings will have to be built.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18233

Posted by: Down South | Jun 11 2023 18:19 utc | 82

Our source reports that Zelensky was informed last week that Ukraine would not be accepted into NATO, even to guarantee that no one would be on paper.
They will promise. Also, the President of Ukraine was warned that if he does not come to the summit in July, this will reflect badly on his image among the leaders of the countries of the alliance, which will also affect cases of military-financial credit assistance.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15602

Posted by: Down South | Jun 11 2023 18:21 utc | 84

@young | 24
I could only read that in Alex Christoforou’s elensky voice!

Posted by: Rattus | Jun 11 2023 18:21 utc | 86

@ averros | Jun 11 2023 18:17 utc | 79
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Its not about maneuvering. Drones like the Orlan-10 need clear skies to track targets.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 11 2023 18:22 utc | 88

Zelensky’s health has long been discussed on the sidelines, as physically he looks very tired and exhausted.
Everyone is sure that the President’s health has deteriorated and is unlikely to improve.

https://t.me/skosoi/5557

Back in April, everyone was discussing Zelensky’s debilitated health on the sidelines. Then he put on his glasses to sign.
Now an interview is being published in the Western press, where the journalist says that Zelensky sleeps for 2 hours and looks completely tired.
Even Western leaders at the summit in Chisinau at the MiMi estate noticed Zelensky’s inappropriate behavior.
On the sidelines, everyone says that if this continues, then in a year he simply will not be able to fulfill his duties. It will be just a puppet.
Perhaps Ermak is just what he needs?

https://t.me/legitimniy/15604

Posted by: Down South | Jun 11 2023 18:25 utc | 90

@ oldhippie, §61:
Yeh, most of the NY Yids are from Galicia, Bessarabia, Odessa and the western (Lithuanian) portion of Belarus that used to be ruled by Poland prior to WW2. Maybe that´s why the Russians would consider keeping them under occupation only as bargaining chips.

Posted by: John Marks | Jun 11 2023 18:26 utc | 92

🇺🇦⚔️🇷🇺 Vremivsky sector
the situation by the end of June 11, 2023 according to @rybar
▪️Heavy fighting continues on the Vremivsky sector. Russian units were forced to withdraw to the Makarivka — Urozhaynoye line. Despite the advance of Russian assault groups to the north and the temporary return of control over Neskuchnoe, the Russian units failed to gain a foothold.
▪️The Ukrainian formations accuse the Russian side of blowing up the dam across the Mokri Yaly River: most likely, the explosion was carried out to slow down the AFU advance.
▪️The settlements of Makarivka and Urozhaine are under the control of Russian units: battles are taking place on the near approaches of settlements.
▪️To the east, Ukrainian formations attempted to break through Russian positions at the Novodonetskoye — Novomaiorskoe line, but were forced to retreat.
🔻 Ukrainian formations are advancing in waves. Tactics usually come down to throwing assault units into the forest belt on armored vehicles: a foot offensive consisting of squads and platoons with artillery support, and armored vehicles are already following the infantry.
▪️We believe that the offensive potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is still far from being exhausted and in the near future we should expect an increase in the onslaught.
▪️Due to bad weather, the situation on the Vremyevsky ledge worsened: the possibilities of using drones and aviation have been reduced. Russian units, leaving their positions in the destroyed frontline villages, were forced to withdraw to the next line of defense.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/68537

Posted by: Down South | Jun 11 2023 18:30 utc | 94

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ It’s not even about Time. The whole Main Problem is that we could get dizzy with Success (which has already led to unfortunate Consequences more than once)⚡️
🔹 While all attention is focused on the #Zaporozhye section of the front, other places are also hot:
▪️ Near #Bakhmut, roll-ups on #Kleshchiyevka continue, they are trying to squeeze our special forces out of their positions;
▪️ Equipment being moved through Stary Saltov and #Volchansk is in #Kupyansk: it is likely that the northern section of the front will intensify;
▪️ The movement of columns from the #Nikolayev direction to the east is noted – and there is a certain probability of activation of the troops in the south after the partial destruction of the #Kakhovskaya HPP;
▪️ Suspicious silence from #Gorlovka to #Donetsk – and this despite the redeployment of significant enemy reserves.
🔹 And in #Zaporozhye there are heavy battles: the enemy is again coming in small groups time after time. And there is a justified opinion that Ukrainian formations are now attacking in waves – a similar tactic was tested during the Great Patriotic War.
Such tactics involve continuous attacks in groups from small to larger, followed by a breakthrough by larger forces in a number of places. Yes, at that a huge resource of both personnel and equipment is spent, but in the end, who will reckon with them there?
📌 So it is too early to relax. Although it’s damn good to hear about the successes of our troops.
📜 RYBAR; 11 Jun 2023, 18:49

https://t.me/sitreports/10057

Posted by: Down South | Jun 11 2023 18:31 utc | 96

🇷🇺🇺🇦 The British edition of The Telegraph regretfully reports that in order to achieve success, Ukrainian troops must break through the defense line, the depth of which is up to thirty kilometers, which consists of minefields, anti-tank ditches, equipped with long-term firing points, infantry positions, “dragon’s teeth”, powerful artillery batteries and other delights.
The length of this line is more than 900 kilometers. The publication makes a fair conclusion that the mission is impossible. And the battles are now taking place only at the front line, and the Ukrainian assault groups are far from able to reach them.

https://t.me/intelslava/48737

Posted by: Down South | Jun 11 2023 18:33 utc | 98

I wonder if this is real? Sounds oddly casual and candid if not grandstanding for the Chinese govt., especially the President:
“Stop blaming China. China does not help the Russian Federation, but if it decides to help, God will not help you. Almost the whole world helps Ukraine. If we see the threat of the Third World War, we will help the Russian Federation, but for now, relax and watch how Russia single-handedly defeats more than 50 countries of the world.”
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/68073
https://vesiskitim.ru/2023/06/11/smotrite-kak-rossiia-odna-pobezhdaet-bolee-50-stran-mira-si-tszinpin-vpervye-prokommentiroval-peredachu-voennoi-tekhniki-kitaia-rossii-news?ysclid=lirptcs711840296238

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 11 2023 18:38 utc | 100