Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 5, 2023
Ukraine Launches Its Counterattack

The long announced Ukrainian counter offensive has started. New Ukrainian units, never seen before, have come to the front. 

The attack was launched by Ukraine for political reasons under pressure from its 'western' sponsors. Militarily it is unlikely to become successful but it will eat away at whatever is left of Ukraine's military capabilities.

Attacks happened all around the front. In the north towards Belgograd, to the east and, with the most forces, towards the south. There was so far little to no success in any of the attacks.

The daily report by the Russian Ministry of Defense list as Ukrainian losses over the last 24 hours 910 soldiers, 16 tanks, 33 armored combat vehicles/infantry fighting vehicle and some 30 trucks.

So far only the most forward positions of Russian troops have been attacked. There are two to three well organized defense lines behind those. The Russians can fall back whenever needed and let the artillery and air force destroy their oncoming enemies.

As I wrote previously about any attacks in the direction of Tokmak and Melitopol:

From the point of strategic value the chosen target is the right one. However, it is also the one where the Russian military has prepared its strongest defense lines.


Source: @Inkvisiit, Scribblemapsbigger

In military books this is know as 'echeloned defense' with three lines of well prepared positions ten kilometer apart from each other. Each line consists of tank obstacles, mine belts, prepared anti-tank positions to monitor and counter potential breach attempts and well prepared artillery support from behind the next defense line.


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To crack such a nut without air support and without significant artillery advantage is nearly impossible.

There may still come larger attacks in other directions. But how many could there be?

As a former Swedish officer notes:

June 4th UkrAF scaled up offensive operations on the Southern Front, but the losses are too high for long time success. Earlier operations were mainly reconnaissance in force with platoon and company sized combat groups. Yesterday the Ukrainian forces seemed to be battalion sized combat groups. According to Russian MoD 8 UkrAF battalions was involved in offensive operations SE of Mala Tokmachka (1), at the Vremivka salient (2) and East of Vuhledar towards Velikonovoselovka (3). The fighting was intense, but on most places Ukrainian forces was turned back, mainly by intense Russian artillery and air attacks. On some places UkrAF succeeded in capturing a couple of hundred meters.

[If the Russian numbers are true], the prospects for a Ukrainian counteroffensive looks very dim. This is even if we don't take into account the ongoing intense Russian air and artillery offensive against UkrAF troop concentrations, ammunition and fuel depots.

With losses of over 1000 KIA and WIA that means that a Ukrainian brigade of 4000 man loose at least 25 percent of its manpower. That's on the brink of making a brigade unusable. Two days fighting with such losses would destroy a brigade's battle capability. 24 days with such losses would in effect destroy the entire fist of 12 brigades UkrAF has gathered for the counteroffensive. With losses of around 12 brigades, 25 000 KIA/WIA, 250 tanks and 1000 IFVs/APCs all the strategic reserves UkrAF has built during the last 6 months would be gone. In exchange the Ukrainian side could have advanced maybe 10 km on some places or more generally 2-3 km along maybe half the southern front.

Once again, IF the Russian claims are true, RuAF must feel relieved and UkrAF very worried by the results of the fighting on the Southern front June 4th.


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I strongly suspect that the Russian military will let the Ukrainian attacks run their course to then launch its own larger scale attacks against weakened Ukrainian defenses.

Comments

Old Surovkin got a lot of shit for withdrawing to the east bank.
If he hadn’t where would the Russian Army be now?
People should eat their words.
I don’t see why the Russians should bomb the dam. It’s such a massive Hail Mary disruptor and everything is going pretty ok for the Russians except for Belgorod. This has Islamic state I mean MI6 I mean Mossad fingerprints all over it. Only terrorists kill civilians.

Posted by: Jacq | Jun 6 2023 7:26 utc | 301

Sanne Marit of Finland and Sanchez of Spain put their countries in the anti-Russian camp, and soon disappear from the political scene, the damage done.
Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia, Croatia – again choose to fight on the same side as Germany, against Russia.
Only Orban of Hungary stands out.
That Hungary does not make the same choice as in the past shows that, in the Hungarian perception of the world, the power balance has changed.

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 6 2023 7:28 utc | 302

just made any crossing shorter, for amphib or bridging equipment. One things for sure, it’s done for a false flag accusation.
Posted by: unimperator | Jun 6 2023 7:23 utc | 303

Shorter across the water; longer across the saturated mud. Any temporary bridge/roadway is totally vulnerable to artillary and rocketry either way.

Posted by: GT Stroller | Jun 6 2023 7:28 utc | 303

Seems Ukie offensive was defeated at Novodonetsk, which was the largest potential threat to RU positions west of it, and NW at Neskuschnoe.

Latest Yuri Report:
The enemy left Novodonetsk
And here comes the good news:
“Unable to break through our defenses, the enemy considered his position unfavorable and began to crawl away from the captured positions. Yesterday, at the end of the day, Novodonetskoye was almost completely in his hands, with the exception of a few streets – at the moment we have restored control over the settlement. Losses on our part turned out to be much smaller than they could have been with such an aggressive onslaught. Domestic communications worked reliably, imports were put down immediately. Today, the situation is at the level of the usual background – apparently, there is a regrouping.”
Judging by what Alexander Khodakovsky wrote, the enemy was unable to put pressure on the situation in the settlement. in their favor (I remind you that ours were able to stay on the farms and the adjacent street), and assessing the scale of the losses, while holding the bridgehead, decided to leave the village.
The fate of the bridgehead on the southern bank of the river is still unclear. Shaitanka. But I think by the evening everything will be clear here.
P.S. Glory to our fighters who did not flinch (did not abandon their positions and held the eastern part of the village) and withstood this blow. Which predetermined the end result. This is your victory. You are real heroes.

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1665982018373525504

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 6 2023 7:29 utc | 304

Sanne Marit of Finland and Sanchez of Spain put their countries in the anti-Russian camp, and soon disappear from the political scene, the damage done, but their personal future secured. The US will reward them with a nice job.

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 6 2023 7:30 utc | 305

more CC:
It is reported that by morning today the enemy was knocked out of Novodonetsky, where the APU was able to enter yesterday having suffered significant losses. Thus, the second day of the APU offensive in the area of the Vremyevsky salient ended in failure for the enemy. We are waiting for the third series.
Regarding Konashenkov’s statements about 8 destroyed Leopards and 3 destroyed AMX-10RS, photos and videos confirm the destruction/disabling of 3 French wheeled tanks (there were just 3 of them). Photos and videos of the destroyed “Leopards” have not appeared on the network, so we are waiting for actual confirmations.

Posted by: Novodonetsky | Jun 6 2023 7:32 utc | 306

Nikopol head says that the water level dropping 15cm/h.
Posted by: unimperator | Jun 6 2023 4:38 utc | 271
That seems unlikely. The resevoir is vast and will take weeks or months to empty

Posted by: Tim | Jun 6 2023 7:36 utc | 307

UNGA will pass a resolution that all countries execute the ICC warrant of arrest of Putin for crimes against humanity.
Evil Putin blew the Ukraine dam causing massive human catastrophe!
Yup. We all know how this game is played.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 6 2023 7:37 utc | 308

disappear from the political scene
Passerby | Jun 6 2023 7:30 utc | 308
But the “new” people continue everything with no changes. This is just rotation, so the retards who vote for them think there is change, but there isn’t any.

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 7:39 utc | 309

I told you next elections in Russia will be very funny, if they don’t go military junta way this year
Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 5:46 utc | 285

CIPSO plants always try to scare people, predicting that some crazy shit which goes full-steam in Ukie might somehow happen in Russia.
Don’t you whine about Russian elections, CIPSO-boy, get out of your CIPSO bunker and ask about Ukie elections.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 6 2023 7:51 utc | 310

A more pure speculation on the dam is that given that:
– it doesn’t make sense to do for a uke invasion
– Russia was fine with the status quo
– ZNPP is putting out messages saying they will be fine (cooling reservoir is circular and only needs to be topped up for solar losses, apparently there is confidence the could run a short intake to the new water level)
There are only two rational explanations:
1) pressure is starting to grow from western nations, and uke, realizing that Crimea will not be returning, did it to screw the Crimean population for water. Crimea and water is why I am sure Russia did not do it
2) undermined by shelling and pressured by the increased water level from upstream manipulation and damaged gates, this was a vanilla structural collapse.
..(3) somebody did something stupid/irrational
I would believe 1 or 2, but so far there were no reports of anything like a dam busting size explosion

Posted by: dask | Jun 6 2023 7:56 utc | 311

Following on from my @ 100
Right now (hours not days) would be a good time to watch what is coming over the Polish border or any other border.
Now it would be worth watching the spy plain movements.
Keeping a close eye on those NATO exercises.
Tracking the where abouts of the US heavy bombers.
Ditto the long rainge hymars and missiles.
If my speculation is correct Russia would need to react within hours to show its ready for the expected esculation.
Forcing an immediate NATO back down.
What I think we see here is the magicians trick get the audience to focus on one hand while doing the deception with the over.
They were hinting they had a few tricks up their sleeve.
There’s more than water coming down the pike this time !

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 6 2023 8:04 utc | 312

Posted by: dask | Jun 6 2023 7:56 utc | 314
It had been bombed so many times before and flood gates were already damaged. Not an engineer but maybe there was some sort of fatigue failure.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 6 2023 8:07 utc | 313

Posted by: Tim | Jun 6 2023 7:36 utc | 310
Nikopol head says that the water level dropping 15cm/h.
That seems unlikely. The resevoir is vast and will take weeks or months to empty.
Destroyed section looks to be ~200m wide and maybe 4m deep. Flow rate looks to be around 5m/s. 4000m^3/s is 14.4×10^6m^3/hr. Surface area of reservoir is 2,155×10^6m^2 x 0.15 = 323×10^5m^3.
22.44hrs for a drop of 15cm. Perhaps Nikopol head meant to say 15cm/day not per hour?

Posted by: GT Stroller | Jun 6 2023 8:08 utc | 314

Posted by: Poslan1 | Jun 6 2023 7:51 utc | 313
You better send your letters to Shoigu, the next “president”, don’t talk to me.

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 8:11 utc | 315

Calc above doesn’t include inflow rate of the Dneipr river, but estimate of damage may be low, so… who knows?

Posted by: GT Stroller | Jun 6 2023 8:12 utc | 316

Also as commented by a few people here – there has been a noticeable chainge in reporting on the BBC this past few days.
They want the public to start paying attention again.
Some things going down.
Public perception manigment in overdrive.
Fits the bill to my speculation above.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 6 2023 8:13 utc | 317

Public perception manigment in overdrive.
Mark2 | Jun 6 2023 8:13 utc | 320
EU was activated too. Like it was when they said Russia is shelling its own ZNPP for months and months.
“head of the European Council, Charles Michel, said he was shocked by the attack on the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station, blamed Russia for it and called the incident a “war crime”
I wonder nato managed to put chemical or radioactive materials in the explosion, to shit the water

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 8:18 utc | 318

Moving swiftly on as I like to do when the adrenaline starts pumping….
What should Russias quick responses be ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 6 2023 8:25 utc | 319

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation on the Fronts in the Evening of 5 Jun 2023; pub. 00:04⚡️
⚔️ The Situation on the Fronts over the past Day:
🔹#Svatovo – #Kremennaya Direction:
▪️ The Russian army continues to expand its bridgehead on the #Oskol River near #Masyutovka and #Dvurechnaya. There is fierce fighting in #Novoselovskoye, as well as an assault on #Belogorovka supported by artillery and aviation.
🔹#Artyomovsk (#Bakhmut) Sector:
▪️ There is information about attempts by the AFU to break the front line near #Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk). The militants attacked near #Soledar, #Kleshchiyevka and #Berkhovka. As a result, heavy fighting ensued, our forces held their positions and destroyed several units of enemy armoured vehicles with return fire.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
➖ In the #Avdeyevka sector, our fighters continue to dislodge militants from fortified positions to cover #Avdeyevka, but there have been no major changes during the day.
➖ In #Maryinka, Russian forces successfully storm the western outskirts.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ The AFU attacked in the direction of #Novodonetskoye, where they managed to push back our positions near the village. There was also fighting near #Novodarovka and #Rovonopol. #Neskuchnoye and #Storozhevoye also came under attack, but the enemy attacks were timely repelled by Russian marines.
💥 An Air Defence System destroyed an Ukrainian Su-25 covering the landing of an enemy landing in #Kherson region.
⚡️ In the area of #Yanzhulovka, #Chernigov Region, the Russian army detected an Ukrainian SRG advancing towards the border with #Russia. The saboteurs were eventually hit by a kamikaze drone launched by our fighters.

https://t.me/sitreports/9788

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Frontline #Summary for the Morning of 6 June 2023; pub. 08:25⚡️
🔹 In the #Zaporozhye Direction, Russian troops shelled the AFU positions in #Kamenskoye, #Novoandreyevka, Malaya Tokmachka, #Zheleznodorozhnoye, #Gulyaypole, #Malinovka and #Olgovskoye.
The AFU launched strikes on #Mikhaylovka and #Tokmak. (Fig. 1)
🔹 In the #Ugledar Section, the Ukrainian Army continued offensives near #Novodarovka, #Rovnopol and #Neskuchnoye. Everywhere there is an advance of varying depths.
📌 From #Novodonetskoye, the AFU got knocked out.
💥 Russian artillery was hitting #Novopol, Zelenoye Polye, Volnoye Polye, Bolshaya Novosyolka, #Prechistovka, #Novoukrainka and #Ugledar. (Fig. 2)
🔹 On the #Donetsk Front, Russian forces supported by artillery and aviation conducted assault operations in the northern and western parts of #Maryinka.
💥 Under fire were AFU positions in #Pobeda, #Ostrom, #Pervomayskoye, #Karlovka, #Avdeyevka, Nyu-York (#Novgorodskoye), #Toretsk and #Severnoye (a settlement northwest of #Gorlovka).
💥 The Ukrainian army carried out strikes against #Mariupol, #Donetsk and #Gorlovka (Figure 3).
🔹 In the #Bakhmut Direction, the RF Armed Forces, supported by artillery, tried to counterattack in the direction of Belaya Gora, #Ivanovskoye (#Krasnoye) and #Spornoye. Without success.
➖ The Ukrainian army conducted an assault from the west towards #Kleshchiyevka and managed to push back the positions of the Russian troops.
➖ The AFU also managed to advance from Orekhovo-Vasilyevka and occupy the dominant heights near the M-03 highway. In other words, the Ukrainian units are seeking to reach #Paraskoviyevka, which was once taken by the Wagner PMC at great cost in order to attack #Bakhmut from the north.
💥 Russian artillery has been firing at #Predtechino, #Stupochki, Chasov Yar, #Kromovo, Orekhovo-Vasilyevka, #Vasyukovka, #Razdolovka and #Verkhnekamenskoye.
💥 The Ukrainian – around Bakhmut. (Fig. 4)
🔹 In the #Lugansk Direction, units of the RF Armed Forces conducted assault actions near #Belogorovka and #Novoselovskoye following artillery strikes. Without advance.
💥 Russian troops hit AFU positions in #Torskoye, #Nevskoye, #Makeyevka, #Sergeyevka, #Berestovoye, #Tabayevka, #Kislovka and #Kupyansk. (Fig. 5)

https://t.me/sitreports/9808

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:25 utc | 320

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🌊 The Destruction of the #Kakhovskaya HPP – What is known as of 8:00⚡️
🗓 At night, the #Kakhovskaya HPP was partially destroyed. Officials are confused about the testimony: then they talk about an explosion, then destruction as a result of an explosion, then the cumulative effect of previous fire impacts.
11 of the 28 spans were destroyed. Restoration will require serious efforts and almost capital construction. But at the same time, the main “ridge” of the dam is intact, and now we are observing the “overflow” of water through the destroyed section. Water kills from the reservoir at a rate of 15 cm per hour.
▪️ The islands and the gray zone in the #Dnieper basin are in the flooding zone. Ukrainian formations are trying to evacuate from the islands, Russian units are firing at them.
In addition, up to 300 houses in #Dneprany and #Korsunka may be flooded. In Novaya Kakhovka, the water reached the coastal street. There is no mass evacuation.
▪️ There is no threat to the #Zaporizhia NPP at the moment: reserve measures for water supply are provided for the facilities in case of such disasters.
▪️ The Ukrainian propaganda puts the blame on #Russia, accusing the Russian Federation of wanting to create a catastrophe in #Zaporozhye and #Dnepropetrovsk regions.
📜 RYBAR; 6 Jun 2023, 08:04

https://t.me/sitreports/9797

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:26 utc | 321

The Western press writes that the first attempt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack with large forces “almost failed” or, in other words, did not bring the desired result.
The New York Times writes about this, pointing out that their source among American military officials said that information from US military satellites recorded a surge in activity from Ukrainian military positions.
The satellites have infrared capabilities to track artillery fire and missile launches.
Today, the Russians published a video showing how an attempt by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack with significant forces was stopped. They write about the participation in the attack attempt of 50-60 units of heavy equipment. Many of which the Armed Forces have lost. Many were blown up by mines.
A very bad sign for Bankova. We agree with colleagues that now the goal of the media department of the OP to hush up the results of the offensive is clear. We also understand that this is only the beginning, but if all the attacks are like this, then before the start of the NATO summit, Ukraine will lose half of the accumulated military potential, which will start talking not about an offensive, but already a forced defense.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15534

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:28 utc | 322

It is reported that this is the now undermined Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station in the Kherson region.
An ecological catastrophe begins in the region. It will flood the territories controlled by the Russians to a greater extent. Where the coast was mined and fortifications were set up. Also partially Kherson.
The Russians previously simulated the flooding that would happen if the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station was blown up.
Here it is worth understanding that the dam was undermined. We need to look for who benefits from it right now and for what?

https://t.me/legitimniy/15535

We are not hinting at anything, but we will try to give pros and cons.
Always look for who benefits!
Why is this the work of the Office of the President (Ukraine):
What was needed was a global tragedy, about which the whole world would speak and actualize the Ukrainian crisis. It will give impetus to the transfer of new weapons, warm up the case before the NATO summit, divert attention from the offensive, which is already “stalling”, disrupt what Ze promised in the SA and Japan (he promised to open the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline, which for him was equated with political death ). Further, Crimea will again face water shortages.
Further, this will create the preconditions for a catastrophe at the ZaNPP, since the water level will drop critically. But, this will enable the Armed Forces of Ukraine to advance on a wide front through the Kakhovka reservoir, which can become a shallow “estuary”.
Russians:
This will temporarily expand the water barrier in the Kherson region, which may temporarily protect against the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which was in no hurry to attack on this flank (although this will wash away all the minefields and defense installations of the Russians).
Plus, it will expose the Russians to the rear in the Zaporozhye region, the reservoir will shrink there. Again, everyone will blame and demonize the Russians, demand stronger sanctions, and so on.
Think!

https://t.me/legitimniy/15537

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:31 utc | 323

In order to disrupt the Istanbul agreements in the spring of 2022, the “Buchan tragedy” was thrown into the information field. The war continues…
Now, in order to disrupt what was agreed upon in the SA and Japan, a “tragedy” is being created with the help of the “Kakhovsky flood” and a message about an environmental catastrophe, and so on.
The media structures of Bankova are already telling everyone that in this way the Russians want to disrupt the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But, if you think globally, then such a step with undermining the hydroelectric power station for the Russians creates many problems, and is completely unprofitable. For Bankova, on the contrary, it is very beneficial.
Online cameras were installed at the HPP and the video should have already been published, but most likely it will not be, or it will be cut so that nothing is clear.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15539

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:33 utc | 324

UNGA will pass a resolution that all countries execute the ICC warrant of arrest of Putin for crimes against humanity.
Evil Putin blew the Ukraine dam causing massive human catastrophe!
Yup. We all know how this game is played.
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 6 2023 7:37 utc | 311
Perhaps if you could share the evidence you have seen, we might be more convinced than by just hearing Selenskys rants repeated in this forum. Remember “the Russian fired a missile on Poland”-Selensky, “The russians blew up North Stream”-Selensky, “the Russians did [all the shit that later turned out to be Selensky’s war crimes] – Selensky.
So, do you have any evidence at all that Russia did it?

Posted by: Marvin | Jun 6 2023 8:35 utc | 325

Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President instructed all of its LOM and TG channels to disperse the narrative about the Russians deliberately blowing up the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station.
At Bankovaya, they want to achieve two goals: firstly, to shift the responsibility for the shelling of the hydroelectric power station, which violated the structure, from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and secondly, to form the image of a terrorist out of Russia.
Old videos of HIMARS strikes are deliberately thrown into the network to show the deliberate undermining of the dam.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18140

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:36 utc | 326

Rybar:
Amid the AFU’s activation in several sectors of the front, events in Kherson fell out of the spotlight. In the past few days, active fighting has been going on in the Dachi area and the islands near Kherson – Ukrainian formations already have a stable foothold on some of them.
The AFU are firing indiscriminately at the positions of the 80th Motorized Rifle Brigade of the Russian Armed Forces with large-caliber mortars and artillery. Target designation is provided by Bayraktar copters and drones from Dolgintsevo and Voznesensk airfields.
In the Dnieper basin, the number of speedboats has increased. Just yesterday, two boats with a landing force were destroyed near the island of Kruglik, which were trying to land on the shore with a swoop.
In addition, the other day, two small Metal Shark and Galaxy boats were delivered to Kherson, along with two groups from SOCOM “South”, which may indicate preparations for more active operations near Kherson.
Also, detachments of Georgian mercenaries were deployed to the Shirokaya Balka-Kizomys line. And at the Ternovsky and Shirokiy Lan training grounds, the 21, 22 and 38th brigades are there. The 37th brigade is already participating in the battles in the Vremivka sector.
https://twitter.com/rybar_en/status/1665794970559578114
They have been moving a lot of boats during the last week.

Posted by: Derek Henry | Jun 6 2023 8:39 utc | 327

The dam was simply washed away by water, due to the destroyed spans, which any person with education understands, the resistance of materials has done its job. Moreover, the fact that the hydroelectric dam stood for so long after the HIMARS missile strikes confirms the qualitative approach of Soviet architects.
Now in the information war, each side will try to blame each other, but the dam was filmed by cameras 24 by 7 and the explosion would have been filmed instantly, which means it did not exist.

https://t.me/ZeRada1/14082

Colleagues, you are right about the visual control of the dam from two sides, which means that now the campaign will begin from two sides.
Unfortunately, our country has become a platform in the geopolitical game of two blocs for reformatting the international system.
The longer the war goes on, the more destruction and casualties there will be.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18141

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:39 utc | 328

Colleagues, at the moment there are a lot of questions about the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, first of all, who benefits from it, and if the Russians blew it up, then why now?
After all, it was much more effective to blow it up during the landing of the Ukrainian troops, and not now. Ukrainian telegram channels did their job, posting photos and videos of the dam explosion, but it turned out to be an arrival from HIMARS.
There is no actual video of the explosion of the hydroelectric power station, despite the visual control, which forced the Western media to change their approach to covering the topic.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18144

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:42 utc | 329

Our source in the OP said that yesterday the Dnieper HPP massively opened the floodgates and dumped water, they did this on instructions from Bankova.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18146

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:43 utc | 330

There is no water rise at the Zaporozhye NPP, there is no threat to the safety of the station due to the explosion of the Kakhovskaya HPP dam;
There is no threat of flooding in Crimea due to the destruction of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, Aksenov said
There is a risk that the North Crimean Canal will become shallow. Drinking water is more than enough. Work is underway to minimize water losses in the canal, the Governor of Crimea added.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/49393

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:45 utc | 331

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 6 2023 7:16 utc | 300
Never forget that rather huge amount of cowards and transvestites among NATO deciders – the only one with balls being Killary but she’s in some foster home with Mad-a-Line NotsoBright und Kiss-A-Ginger.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jun 6 2023 8:46 utc | 332

About the role of intel in the battle of Kursk: I think some commenters have hard time distinguishing Sorge from “Red October” network a mythical group in the ‘very’ close vicinity of Hitler that was sending prime intel to Stalin.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jun 6 2023 8:56 utc | 333

Revisiting my calc. Sitrep states that “11 of the 28 spans were destroyed.”
The dam is 3.2km long, so rather than 200m destroyed, it’s more like 1260m. That would cause a loss of 4.2cm/hr to the reservoir on my estimate of a 4m deep breach flowing at 5m/s. The river inflow of around 1000m^3/s needs to be subtracted, so allowing for that, around 3cm/hr.
Average depth of the reservoir is around 9m, so nominally empty in around 2 weeks.

Posted by: GT Stroller | Jun 6 2023 8:58 utc | 334

Nikopol is at a fairly narroe part of the reservoir, so that could account for some of the discrepancy between my 3cm/hr estimate and the report of 15cm/hr from there.

Posted by: GT Stroller | Jun 6 2023 9:02 utc | 335

What should Russias quick responses be ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 6 2023 8:25 utc | 324
What they should have done since last summer. Turn smo into anti-terrorist operation, move the war from Russia into Ukr, where there’s no war, lots of money from nato, money from Russia’s transit fees, working exports, no shortage of fuel and electricity, many airports filled with planes and basically no problem, except for a few losers taken from the streets by force. There’s so little war in Ukr tourism would work nicely this summer. I bet +20k colored tourists would love to visit Odessa.

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 9:07 utc | 336

If the main bulk of the dam doesn’t wash away, the situation will stabilise at a 4m drop in level in around 5 days. No need to panic about the NPP anyway.

Posted by: GT Stroller | Jun 6 2023 9:10 utc | 337

Look at the damage. Controlled drain, will take ap while. Shield in south, lance in north.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2023 9:13 utc | 338

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 6 2023 1:30 utc | 218
I like this rule (#zero I presume).

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jun 6 2023 9:16 utc | 339

Re: Posted by: shadowbanned | Jun 6 2023 7:19 utc | 303

The water issue for Crimea won’t happen
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 6 2023 5:10 utc | 276
It definitely will.
This is likely not getting repaired this decade — they have stockpiled water over the last 16 months, but that will run out eventually.

So what is the Russian solution given the dam has been blown up – WHICH IS A SURPRISE TO PRECISELY NO ONE – LEAST OF ALL THE RUSSIANS
Are the Russians planning (or already building) a pipe through the land-bridge to Crimea?
Is Russia planning to take ALL of Southern Ukraine such that Ukraine can’t do this sort of thing? If so – why hasn’t Russia already done so – what are they waiting for for over a year?!?
There has been NO Russian offensive in Southern Ukraine since April 2022 – about 14 months ago. Why not?

Posted by: Julian | Jun 6 2023 9:17 utc | 340

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2023 9:13 utc | 343
Look at the damage. Controlled drain, will take a while. Shield in south, lance in north.

Suspect you’re right.
Regarding the Crimean water supply canal, I expect Russian engineers will soon have the end capped and will install pumps to lift sufficient water from the lowered reservoir level into it. The power supply might take a while to get connected, but they have water stored to use in the meantime.

Posted by: GT Stroller | Jun 6 2023 9:28 utc | 341

RF knows ruthlessness of z et al. IF they did not do themselves, they should not be surprised. Not a big deal. Prime objective save lives. If only they could force evacuate population before invasio.
Why drive to Kiev so fast, then retreat? Brothers, the end is near. Practice makes perfect.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2023 9:37 utc | 342

Crimea went years without water. They can handle it. Practice makes perfect.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2023 9:39 utc | 343

Ghost of Zanon @179 (and other posters) re: NATO throwing “meat bombs” into this conflict….
Not to make light of the situation, especially the human suffering, but I am surprised no one has come up with the term “depleted ukranians”.

Posted by: NotBob | Jun 6 2023 11:31 utc | 344

The main consequence of destroying the dam is that the nuclear plant will be screwed without its water input and will have to be disabled for the time being. This is a recklessly criminal act, imho, because it’s the single action (barring direct hit on it) that increases the most a risk of nuclear catastrophe. Granted, it might not go this badly, with any luck, but still.
Posted by: Clueless Joe | Jun 6 2023 7:10 utc | 300
??? For the time being ???
Care to elaborate what you mean by that?
As far as I know the NPP stopped producing electricity some months ago. That is as close as they can get to disabling it.
They still need to cool it, for years.
That is the problem with nuclear power. You don’t flip a switch, and it’s gone. You will have to look after it for years to come long after you lost all interest in doing so.

Posted by: Martina | Jun 6 2023 12:57 utc | 345

https://www.afr.com/world/europe/zelensky-welcomes-the-news-we-have-been-waiting-for-20230606-p5de8l
Zelensky is happy about something. Probably reports that they took some control near Bakhmut. Prigozhin is complaining about it.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 6 2023 14:07 utc | 346

The Russian Troops stationed in the Belgorod sends their greetings to the terrorist groups Ukraine and NATO send in to the Belgorod region
Mostly offensive words, it’s simply a warning to anyone who thinks they can go in and come out alive. 500+ liquidated and counting.
https://twitter.com/Alex_Oloyede2/status/1666075541030551554

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 6 2023 14:10 utc | 347

The ongoing counteroffensive by Ukraine has not yielded the expected results, but rather the opposite.
The Ministry of Defense of Russia has released a video showing the destruction of Ukrainian armored vehicles, including Leopard tanks.

Posted by: rob | Jun 6 2023 16:38 utc | 348

Im thinking this Dam sabotage by Ukrainian will be top news in the collective West MSM for all of 3 days and then fizzle out as Russia dig deep into their missile attacks on strategic centres and military establishments. All eyes will be on the MSM and Zelensky whilst RF get on with the business of winning the SMO. PR wins in a war can only last so long.
There can be no doubt the collective West is now in deep panic mode because they know, in essence, they have lost this and comprehensively so. The Ukies have shot themselves in the foot now. They’ve got nothing but PR left. I think RF will give a measured response and do more and more damage where it will destroy Ukie resources and soldiers at a much greater rate. Just have to wait for the hysteria surrounding the Dam to fizzle out.
Strange isn’t it that the explosion of the Dam happened the day after the UK’s Foreign Minister, the idiotic Cleverley, made a secret visit to Zelensky. The UK is up to its neck in this and seem to be unable to see when the dust settles on Ukraine after an RF total victory, the UK will be targetted by the RF, in what way I do not know, but it will damn hurt that’s for sure.

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Jun 6 2023 16:53 utc | 349

Russia has now a new satellite in orbit the KONDOR FKA. This satellite is to be used to recon Ukrainian military installations. It will pass over Ukraine twice a day and is capable of detecting military objects in radar range with a resolution of one meter. It can detect regardless of weather conditions. So I don’t think Russia has to worry about some fart in the wind counter offensive.

Posted by: WT Baker | Jun 6 2023 19:11 utc | 350

Three conscript soldiers from the Sverdlovsk region were killed during shelling in the Belgorod region, the Sverdlovsk Ombudsman Tatyana Merzlyakova said.
“The guys were undergoing training. Three young guys were killed by a Ukrainian guided shell that hit a bus with conscripts, seven were injured, two of them seriously wounded,” the ombudsman said.

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 22:18 utc | 351

“Armed Forces of Ukraine are preventing civilians in the Kherson region from evacuating from the flood zone near the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station.
The shelling of the city of Holaya Pristan by Ukrainian “Grads” occurred when RT correspondents were recording an interview with Andrei Alekseenko, chairman of the regional government, who was organizing the evacuation.”

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 22:57 utc | 352

The Ukrainian army conducted an assault from the west towards #Kleshchiyevka and managed to push back the positions of the Russian troops.
➖ The AFU also managed to advance from Orekhovo-Vasilyevka and occupy the dominant heights near the M-03 highway. In other words, the Ukrainian units are seeking to reach #Paraskoviyevka, which was once taken by the Wagner PMC at great cost in order to attack #Bakhmut from the north.
https://t.me/sitreports/9808
Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 8:25 utc | 325
Without Wagner there, the Ukrainians are regaining the land. It seems regular Russian forces aren’t as tough.

Posted by: MiniMo | Jun 7 2023 1:51 utc | 353

@Oui | Jun 5 2023 16:58 utc | 98
Given Churchill’s primary role in starting two world wars, perhaps Bush was not as far from the mark as usual.

Posted by: Hermit | Jun 7 2023 18:57 utc | 354

Posted by: rob | Jun 6 2023 16:38 utc | 349
That’s a tractor. You need to be less easy to trick.

Posted by: Old Fart Legion | Jun 8 2023 7:23 utc | 355