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June 18, 2023
The MoA Week In Review – (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-143

Last week's post on Moon of Alabama:

b: If my summing up is correct the report lists Ukrainian losses due to failed mass attacks over the last 24 hours as:
68 tanks, 64 Infantry Fighting Vehicles, 74 Armored Combat Vehicle and 860 950 personnel. Those were enough combat vehicles for two complete brigades!


Other issues:

Assange:

Aukus:

RIP Daniel Ellsberg:

> During the course of our hour- and-20-minute interview, Ellsberg contended America still runs a “covert empire” around the world, embodied in the U.S. domination of NATO. He believes Washington deliberately provoked Vladimir Putin into invading Ukraine by pushing its seat of power eastward toward Russia’s borders; that the mainstream media is “complicit” in allowing the government to keep secrets it has no right to withhold; and that any notion Americans are ever the “good guys” abroad “has always been false.”

“I think very few Americans are aware of what our actual influence in the former colonial world has been, and that is to keep it colonial,” Ellsberg says. “King Charles III [of Britain] is no longer an emperor, as I understand it, but for all practical purposes Joe Biden is … Here’s a point I haven’t made to anyone but would like to in my last days here. Very simply, how many Americans would know any one of the following cases, let alone three or four of them?” Ellsberg then rattles off a series of U.S. orchestrated coups, most of them fairly well documented, starting with Iran in 1953, and then in Guatemala, Indonesia, Honduras, Dominican Republic, Brazil and Chile. <

Nukes:

> Vladimir Putin: I reject this. It is certainly theoretically possible to use nuclear weapons this way. For Russia, it is possible if there is a threat to our territorial integrity, independence and sovereignty, an existential threat to the Russian state. Nuclear weapons are created to ensure our security, in the broadest sense of the word, and the existence of the Russian state.

First, we see no need to use it; and second, considering this, even as a possibility, factors into lowering the threshold for the use of such weapons. This is my first point.

The second point is that we have more such nuclear weapons than NATO countries. They know about it and never stop trying to persuade us to start nuclear reduction talks. Like hell we will, right? A popular phrase. (Laughter.) Because, putting it in the dry language of economic essays, it is our competitive advantage.<

The 'popular phrase' was 'Fuck you'.

Use as open (not Ukraine related) thread …

Comments

I am trying to make my comments short, and than even shorter, and sometimes I just cancel them…
There is so much to say, and one can easily get carried away with the asides. It is an art to write short…

Posted by: fanto | Jun 20 2023 18:39 utc | 175
Yes!

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 21 2023 6:38 utc | 201

@ waynorinorway | Jun 21 2023 6:15 utc | 199
Thank you. You’re correct of course. There is no theism in Buddhism. Strike “atheist” and leave “nihilist” to stand for the whole point.
There is much I don’t know. I rely on friends to take up the slack 🙂

Posted by: Grieved | Jun 21 2023 7:52 utc | 202

@ Grieved | Jun 21 2023 7:52 utc | 202
Then I agree with the point.
I reject nihilism and feel sad for nihilists.
There is much I don’t know too so I try not to be
evangelical and just realize opportunity to learn.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 21 2023 8:49 utc | 203

Did not the situation in Western Russia/Donbas Ukraine over the past 8-9 years have many similarities? Did NATO provoke the Russians or did the Russian build up lead to NATO expansion to the Russian borders? A compare and contrast piece of the two eras would be interesting but I have not the time, the inclination, or most importantly the knowledge to do that.
Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 21 2023 6:34 utc | 200
The Russian buildup was substantial and intended (I think) to prevent the UK attack. Putin, being a guy who can both walk and chew gum, attacked when the UK attack was imminent, so Putin and Z have reversed roles, so to speak, from that point, to Stalin & Hitler. Putin was not surprised, the west was, that is part of why they got so angry. In their little plans, the enemy is always stationary and dumber than they are. But then, Putin is way smarter than Hitler or the Neocons ever thought of being, and that is obvious. Arrogance makes you stupid.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 21 2023 9:15 utc | 204

@ Bemildred | Jun 21 2023 9:15 utc | 204
Thanks. I think I’m pretty much up to speed about the present conflict, but the question of who hit
who first and why in WWll seems to be the contentious issue in this thread. I’ve not done enough
study of that to have knowledge that others need to sit at my feet and learn. I just see some parallels.
“Arrogance makes you stupid.”
Yes, and I submit the reverse is often true.
And on this blog – certainly on this thread – the one who has the most to say has the least to offer.
Fanto nailed it @ 18:39 utc | 175

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 21 2023 10:47 utc | 205

Someone recommended this article as garbage:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russian-federation/treacherous-path-better-russia
While seriously lacking in common sense etc., one tidbit was interesting. The author claims that the war disproportionally affects some ethnic minority, for example, in Tuva one in 3300 adults died in that war. If you estimate the number of adults in Russia as 100 million, this ratio would give 100 million / 3300 = 100 thousand 3.3 = 30 thousands. But Tuvans are more affected than most, so the total for Russia should be smaller. And this is an estimate from the latest issue of Foreign Affairs. 30,000 dead is a horrible number to be sure, but this is the lowest estimate that I have seen in a Western establishment publication.
About Tuva, it was annexed by Soviet Union around 1940, and for a while it was the most remote part of Chinese empire, a kind of place where an imperial official show up once if few years, with no troops stationed there. Geographically amazing, a wide plane surrounded on all sides by mountains. Apparently, Tuvans never had a reason to resent an imperial power.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 21 2023 14:44 utc | 206

Summer solstice! Best wishes to the bar!
https://twitter.com/ST0NEHENGE/status/1671362846293204992

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 21 2023 15:05 utc | 207

Can someone please define a “forward air base” and explain the use of the term in plural?
Besides that is there anything from Soviet archives saying that’s what the alleged bases were for? Or intercepted signals on the German side?
Need way more detail.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 21 2023 15:10 utc | 208

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 21 2023 1:20 utc | 187
On to Mencius. He is a great discovery, and there are lots of historical links in the dark, connecting chinese culture with european renaissance. But the most important thing is that Mencius has a profoundly superior ethic, about which I know fairly little, but which can probably somewhat be summarized through his remark that “everybody values something more than his own life”. I promise to elaborate on that another time, and connect it with a few thoughts on the sensus communis which will be of interest here.
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Thanks for that book reference and solid commentary. Nemesis cited ‘Stalin’s War’ as well, which have not read. I dimly recall from the Mueller tapes (which seem to have been scrubbed from the internet these days) that the German High Command – a powerful group he often had great difficulty managing being only a jumped-up Corporal himself – recoiled in horror at the notion of taking on Russia. But they didn’t have access to Mueller’s Intel. So they were not ready to invade Russia but waiting until Russia invaded them would have been disastrous. (Unless of course the whole story is a Blood Libel as bevin believes or states.)
No doubt there will be arguments about this forever. Because of course what we call ‘facts’ end up being remarkably close to ‘beliefs.’ Establishing as facts complex matters that took place almost a century ago, let alone ones far earlier, always comes down to matters of opinion since any document one cites as evidence could be disinformation.
The way I look at it is incomplete but:
a) the Big Lie principle is a fact of Life
b) not only but often it is organized interests who promote such Big Lies to benefit themselves not society at large
c) much of our meta-narratives regarding major historical events (like The Great War of 1913 – 1949) are Big Lies
d) a huge number of otherwise well-meaning and intelligent people are fooled by these Lies and take umbrage when they are challenged or outright debunked
e) people are unjustly punished in large and small ways for questioning, challenging or debunking
f) society muddles along in the slime and muck of an ever-encroaching Dark Age
g) or it doesn’t, which means it is finding ways to increase rather than decrease virtue. There is no middle ground. Which is where Confucian schools of societal management begin.
As to Mencius, yes he is special. I need to study him more and have some books on the reading list lined up but…. his core thesis, I believe, is what can be called that of ‘basic goodness.’ If you look back and back and back to the depths of the most profound profundities in Heaven (!) you find that it is basically good, primordially good. In the Tibetan Dzogchen tradition, which is at least 20,000 years old so pre-dating the last Buddha Shakyamuni, their core symbolic deity is Samantabhadra in Sanskrit which translates as the All-Good. From this point of view, evil is a deviation from the norm. Good and evil, or wisdom and confusion, equally arise (coemergently in the technical jargon) but the innate programming is fundamentally good.
We see this vividly in Nature, case closed. Along with good there is some sort of order or rules. This is why plant leaf structures work in ways that are both functional, resilient, intelligent and beautiful. The One manifests as The Many and what we in the realm of the Many can witness is all fundamentally good. I believe this is the thrust Mencius was making. (In the Yi, the rules aspect is reflected in mathematical structures. Math is the study of ratios and relations combining fixed qualities with infinite permutations.) And Mencius was a master at boiling deep topics down to ordinary, human example. Because ultimately this is all about the ordinary, the real. And Nature really is the best teacher in this regard, both external and internal nature.
Will people choose to go against this primordial goodness? Yes, they can and do because the price we pay for being independent particular beings, little individual souls emanating from Great Soul or Big Mind or God etc., is a sense of being separate and unique and this separation can result in distorted perception and behavior which comes from the initial confusion and bewilderment caused by being apparently separate whilst actually still being a part of, not apart from, the overall Whole. An existential conundrum we all share and dealing with which many believe provides life’s meaning.
Which is why humans organize societies: to discourage that sort of pathology and promote connection, togetherness, sanity and compassion – because of point g) above: there is no neutral resting place. It is the dilemma all beings face individually and collectively once individuated as participants in the relative realm of the Many – they are many because each is particular, like particular waves and ripples, an infinite number of them, on the Ocean which is One. So although on the profound level we inhabit an All-Good universe, on the relative level we are faced with no end of either-or dilemmas each and every moment of existence. In the Tarahumara tradition they say the spirit-warrior (sage) strives to overcome the ‘enemy-within.’ A great insight. That enemy is the tendency to stray from primordial goodness due to being confused by the agendas thrown up along with maintaining an individuated existence.
Philosophers can get lost arguing about such things; politicians have to be practical. But the latter are products of their society and rarely rise far above the level of collective wisdom or confusion. What the Confucian approach attempts is to create a cultural, philosophical and spiritual container within which properly aligned societies can grow and flourish so that the best will rise to the top and all will benefit accordingly since good societies promote, indeed treasure, virtuous lives. It’s that simple. And also that hard.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 21 2023 15:25 utc | 209

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 21 2023 10:47 utc | 205
Thanks, I would not claim to know what really happened in that war (WWII), what does seem clear is they were all warmongers, and they all played dirty. Nobody follows the rules in real wars, resource wars, anyway. China would be the one exception, they didn’t ask to be attacked. Given the great disgruntlement at the very existence of the commies, I’d say Stalin’s paranoia at least had plenty of justification too. Churchill has always appeared to me to be stark raving mad. I read a good deal in my youth about the military history but assumed all the political history was mostly lies. This could have something to do with the confusion about who were the good guys.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 21 2023 15:30 utc | 210

Posted by: LuRenJia | Jun 21 2023 1:40 utc | 191
@psychohistorian | Jun 21 2023 1:06 utc | 186 (via karlof1 | Jun 20 2023 20:52 utc | 179)
Finance not only governs finance, finance governs most other industries.
This does not sound right to me. Finance should not and cannot govern other industries. It should serve other industries instead, like utilities as psychohistorian always preaches. This may be why merchants/businessmen are the lowest in Chinese traditional social classes (Shì Nóng Gōng Shāng/士農工商). Businessman’s mindset is not suitable for societal common good. And Shi (士) is not just educated people but also need to hold other characteristics from Confucius point of view.
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Watch out! That’s a HUGE can of worms. Both in China which has established a class-free communist society (no? Please correct if this is wrong, would love to understand more), and the West which after ‘democracy’ claims that it too has managed to get just about everyone, except the top 1% very rich and the bottom x% very poor, into the same ‘middle’ class. Of course this isn’t quite true, but that doesn’t mean the belief in such a thing doesn’t prevent intelligent alternatives being discussed.
In most traditional societies the merchant classes were placed below the warrior, ruling and priest classes. Indeed, one of the traditional roles of monarchs is to ensure that merchants, who accrue great wealth and power, do not rise to take over control of the society since such a thing would assure its demise – as we are now seeing in the West.
The old systems may have had many problems, but they were replaced with worse not better, a truth that few, especially those arguing about capitalism versus communism, are willing to entertain. In the modern world we seem to believe that as long as material progress is being made we are at the apex of human development, that our ancestors lived in much darker, more primitive times and that we are far wiser and better than they. Which also means we trust in the ‘wisdom of the market’ and in fabulously wealthy tycoons and suchlike.
I wonder to what extent this sort of crude politico-social materialism now pervades China today. Do you have a sense of it? I don’t blame them for playing industrial revolution catch-up with the West; it was necessary and unavoidable. But how much of essentially timeless class system ethics and bedrock ‘confucian’ understanding remains after the communist revolution? Have they truly eliminated class? Is it just coincidence that Xi is one of the Founding Father Princelings? Does it matter? Perhaps it is better that there is a forming aristocracy (rule by the best) that provides steady leadership, but is this openly discussed and acknowledged?
In any case, it’s a VERY BIG ISSUE – both class systems in general and Finance in particular – and yet one among many that really can’t be discussed in the West any more. We have too many taboos and speech-controllers enforcing what is acceptable in public discourse for so long now that most of us have been dumbed down beyond remedy so that even were it encouraged more, most of us would be unable to offer up all that much.
Thanks for your post!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 21 2023 15:39 utc | 211

Piotr Berman: I’d be curious to know the source of that “3300 dead Tuvans” statistic.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 21 2023 16:50 utc | 212

Tom and Scorpion have asked for more detail on the Suvorov/Schwitter hypothesis. I shall say as much for now:
Many thanks to Karlof1 who lend some weight on the notion in his reply, saying that “it all makes sense”. This is basically what I can say about the matter, too, considering that I am not an academic historian myself, let alone an actual military historian, and also have not devoted decades of study on such matters, since I’m only 43.
However, the example of those forward air bases is quite stark. There is also the evidence present in Landser memoirs; however more circumstantial, they would make up for it by their sheer volume. As I gathered, Schwipper read such “Soldatenschmöker” (as he called them) voraciously. I noted Hans-Ulrich Rudel, whose memoirs (Kriegstagebuch) I btw greatly recommend – it is not only a mind-blowing story of adventure, but also a historical goldmine. You can see right there the reason why NATO air doctrine developed, as opposed to the soviet/russian approach. US designers built the A-10 basically customized for his experiences.
Two more episodes merit mention: after meeting Hitler repeatedly for earning all highest merits (and then another one created solely for him), he relates that his Führer would have desperately liked to make peace with England, but was turned down repeatedly. And towards The End of it, Hitler stated that his scientists were working on a new weapon with greatly enhanced destructive power, apparently the original Wunderwaffe, methinks, an obvious reference to nuclear bombs. Such detail is, of course, also literally explosive … the original copy I read was an early one from the 1950ies, signed by Rudel himself, and at one point I skimmed a newer print for the passage, but couldn’t find it. It might just have been scrubbed in later editions.
On a final note, Luke Skywalker blasting the death star with a proton torpedo after dodging massive AD fire is absolutely modeled on Rudel approaching tanks 5m above ground to hit sufficiently weak spots at the rear with 37mm Flak cannons hung under the wings of his Stuka.
But the best argument (still circumstantial) I can make for now is Putin actually legally forbidding to openly advocate the Surovov hypothesis in Russia, at a time when Schwippers had already been granted access to the archives. I shall see what I can find in the book on those forward airfields, and report back to Moa, but can’t promise it will make this thread.
Also, the Mencius argument has to be postponed a little more, but will not be forgotten.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 21 2023 16:53 utc | 213

Palki Sharma:
US Media, Think Tanks Criticise Biden for Hosting PM Modi. Here’s Why | Vantage with Palki Sharma [25 mins useful]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwk7Tj-8e7Q

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 21 2023 17:26 utc | 214

@ tom 208
Basically, Soviet Pioneers constructed ~1000 aerodrome (can’t find info to cite this currently) facilities near the frontier with Germany shortly before the commencement of Barbarossa.
One can not say then that the Soviets were a slumbering giant caught totally unaware by German aggression. To sum up the Survorov thesis: both could be viewed as aggressive, though one was able to catch the other flat-footed at the outset.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 21 2023 17:44 utc | 215

So Blinken is at last allowed a visit to China after the Chinese have made abundantly clear their severe annoyance at the anti-China bullshit coming out of Blinken’s and other US officials mouths. This after it did seem that the US functionaries were getting a little worried that they had gone a little bit too far.
And of course Blinken, who is utterly incapable of self-reflection or any logical thought outside his own ideological clown world makes a complete hash of it and the Chinese agree to politely talk past each other. Then immediately any improvement in China-US relations is flushed down the toilet by Biden calling Xi a dictator!
The US administration never ceases to amaze to the downside, and seems to have no cognizance at all of what this kind of bullshit does to its reputation in the 7/8ths of the world which is not the West. Then it wonders while that 7/8ths is pulling away. Nothing of course to do with the disrespectful and bullying way that the US seems to treat ever other nation on the Earth.

Posted by: Roger | Jun 21 2023 18:22 utc | 216

But the best argument (still circumstantial) I can make for now is Putin actually legally forbidding to openly advocate the Surovov hypothesis in Russia, at a time when Schwippers had already been granted access to the archives. I shall see what I can find in the book on those forward airfields, and report back to Moa, but can’t promise it will make this thread.
Also, the Mencius argument has to be postponed a little more, but will not be forgotten.
Posted by: persiflo | Jun 21 2023 16:53 utc | 213
Thanks.
When they don’t let you talk and\or hurl insult and\or jail you for doing so, chances are you are over the target.
The Mencius argument might come down to muddling absolute and relative. We shall see.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 21 2023 18:42 utc | 217

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 21 2023 17:44 utc | 215
One can not say then that the Soviets were a slumbering giant caught totally unaware by German aggression. To sum up the Survorov thesis: both could be viewed as aggressive, though one was able to catch the other flat-footed at the outset.
That’s an interesting remark. We all tend to project the characteristics of a whole nation, or the complex multi-layered processes that go into final decisions like going to war, onto a single individual. (Actually, this is instinctive and why systems with single individual leaders are better than rule by committee/soviet, but that’s another topic.) And in so doing we also attribute ego-oriented emotion and drive to such individuals and their policies and then our propaganda adds a moralizing good guys versus bad guys layer urging us to identify as the former and see others as the latter.
After the sturm und drang of the 20th century along with the hyper-growth of mass media driven uber-propaganda, aka ‘programming’ [sic], it is probably forever going to be impossible to tell what really happened and why. But I think the tendency to reach to find judgment as to who was good or bad, which again is instinctive, tends to obfuscate overmuch. For example, after all we have heard growing up about Hitler and the Nazis it is virtually and viscerally impossible to express anything other than hatred towards the man and, to a certain extent, his countrymen who enabled him. And yet all such emotion is based on emotive-engendering narratives, very few of which provide worthy representation of what was actually going on and all of which drag the society down in which such negative spirit is being promulgated, thereby itself belying any claims to moral superiority or advanced civilization. (We haven’t seen such in our life times, I trow.)
So we are left with what we are left with after the storm has passed. Russia was left with a stable communist regime and society, an experiment which finally petered out only forty years later – so not very impressive after all. The West was left with a sense of victory and pride but also after forty or so years of relative prosperity began a clear descent into lower culture which has now become so obvious that most thinking people have finally begun to notice though still the vast majority remain blissfully complacent.
So from those fruits, we now know them; none of the several sides was all that much better or worse than the other. All sides committed atrocities before and after the war. All sides blundered. All sides lied. None achieved anything of note apart from extraordinary heroism on the field of battle which perhaps is a virtue in the afterlife we here cannot well ascertain (or perhaps a ticket to Hell which we also cannot see).
So I again come back to a simple default position: when I see people – including myself – tending to froth at the mouth espousing one side or vilifying another, chances are there is worship at the throne of BS going on and best to simply
let
it
go.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 21 2023 19:56 utc | 218

persiflo | Jun 21 2023 16:53 utc | 213–
Thanks for your reply. I suggest reading at least the beginning of this Simplicius article that provides the evolution of Soviet military strategy from the 1920s onward. One critical aspect of the two sides capabilities in mid-1941 was the ability of German tanks to communicate via radio while the Russian’s had no such capabilities aside from the command tank being linked to its HQ–inter-tank comms was done by hand and flag signaling, which immediately proved to be a massive disadvantage.
Many have heard of Putin’s aphorism: If you know you’re about to be attacked, then attack first. That’s the lesson from 1941. Stalin expected to be arrested for not heeding the intel he was provided with, but he was spared by the common sense of the General Staff.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 21 2023 20:07 utc | 219

Saddam Hussein
https://youtu.be/vWR771ZKaWA

Posted by: Gary | Jun 21 2023 20:48 utc | 220

https://fredoneverything.org/the-lingering-effects-of-slavery-an-objective-analysis/
Politically incorrect romp in the American urban hinterlands…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 21 2023 21:04 utc | 221

How Hegemony Works in practice – example of Big Ag in action in Mexico:

Three Decades of U.S. Agricultural Dumping
Those measures spring from deep concern about the deterioration of Mexicans’ diets and public health as the country has gradually adopted what some have called “the neoliberal diet.” Mexico has displaced the United States as the world leader in childhood obesity as diets rich in native corn and other traditional foods have been replaced by ultraprocessed foods and beverages high in sugar, salt, and fats. Researchers found that since the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was enacted in 1994, the United States has been “exporting obesity.”
The López Obrador government recently stood up to the powerful food and beverage industry to mandate stark warning labels on foods high in those unhealthy ingredients. Its restrictions on GM corn and glyphosate flow from the same commitment to public health.
So does the government’s campaign to reduce import-dependence in key food crops – corn, wheat, rice, beans, and dairy. But as I document in a new IATP policy report, “Swimming Against the Tide,” cheap U.S. exports continue to undermine such efforts.
We documented that in 17 of the 28 years since NAFTA took effect, the United States has exported corn, wheat, rice, and other staple crops at prices below what it cost to produce them. That is an unfair trade practice known as agricultural dumping, and it springs from chronic overproduction of such products in that country’s heavily industrialized agriculture.
Just when NAFTA eliminated many of the policy measures Mexico could use to limit such imports, U.S. overproduction hit a crescendo, the result of its own deregulation of agricultural markets. Corn exports to Mexico jumped more than 400% by 2006, with those exports priced at 19% below what it cost to produce them. Again, from 2014 to 2020, corn prices were 10% below production costs, just as Mexico began seeking to stimulate domestic production.

https://www.ipsnews.net/2023/06/u-s-assault-mexicos-food-sovereignty/ (via sitrepworld.info)
As I resident I commend AMLO’s efforts, but the fact is that most corn consumed is imported and all of that is GM with glyphosate. They made consessions which the US regarded as not enough and are now going into arbitration. Mexico is between a rock and a hard place with this being a poorer nation bordering a wealthier one (at least for now). They should take a leaf out of Russia’s book and go all-organic. And flat-out ban ALL GM products and not give into pressure to feed it to animals etc. Just ban it all, period. But that most likely isn’t going to happen and Mexicans will keep eating bad corn and drinking gallons of Coca Cola a week. A sad, bad situation…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 21 2023 21:23 utc | 222

I appreciate the attempts to answer my question about the forward air bases, but I am left unsatisfied. I’ll look into my own historical sources including the declassified documents that were ultimately released to the public and researchers after the USSR dissolved. Hopefully Nemeis can eventually find the source he cites as well. I’m genuinely interested.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 21 2023 21:23 utc | 222
A couple of points regarding Mexico, and specifically AMLO’s attempts to go “organic” or at least GMO-free on her imported foodstuffs. While I don’t live there like you do (I think), I have spent a lot of time there and lived on the border for more than 30 years, so I have a ton of friends and acquaintances from there, including a couple of ex-pats I talk to daily. Only point in saying that is to give you some background on my familiarity with the goings on concerning MX.
On a broader note, bear in mind what you wrote about the situation. The “US” (i.e., US government) is representing the interests of *corporations* in this matter, not people (although sure, some people work for these corporations). AMLO is representing his people against said corporations (read: finance/investment capital) and the hegemon government that acts on their behalf when called upon or coerced into doing so – *against* the interests of actual Mexican people and the government that represents them. You frequently allude to “low culture” and the like for why the US is in decline, but this is a perfect example of the real reason for the decline of the US. Namely the fact that the government has been co-opted for decades not by “Woke” culture or “low culture” but by the greed and extra- or supra-governmental power of finance/extractive Capitalist Elites. When the people don’t feel that their needs are first and foremost in their elected and appointed government’s mind, and often fall way below first, they lose faith in the institutions that are supposed to govern them fairly. So at least AMLO is trying to do what a “democratic” government is SUPPOSED to do.
Don’t be fooled by “Woke Capitalism” or “Rainbow Corporatism” or even “DEI Government” – none of those are why the system is failing. It is failing due to the natural progression of capitalist greed and the co-optation/capture of the peoples’ government, which of course is attempting to extend its (and their) tentacles further into your adopted home.
Which, in combination with the readily available history of the relationship between the US and Mexico (inclusive of the Monroe Doctrine), is why the following is fantasy. As you yourself concede, Mexico is between a rock and a hard place and you can be assured that any attempt to do this in blanket (or even very serious) fashion would be met with stonewalling, sabotage and blackmail, as is typical of any dying empire.

And flat-out ban ALL GM products and not give into pressure to feed it to animals etc. Just ban it all, period. But that most likely isn’t going to happen and Mexicans will keep eating bad corn and drinking gallons of Coca Cola a week.

The people of any country will eat and drink and drive and consume what’s made available to them on an ‘industrial’ scale and the USG, on behalf of trans-national finance/investment capital and extractive/poisonous agri-business interests that it represents against the people at home or abroad. Direct parallels can be drawn to Ukraine and her potential markets, fertile farmlands and other resources.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 21 2023 21:58 utc | 223

re: 25 interviews with Daniel Ellsberg
thats how many Scott Horton has done between 2010 and 2022
https://scotthorton.org/?s=ellsberg

Posted by: AG | Jun 21 2023 23:39 utc | 224

@ 223 tom
Here is an excerpt from a review of “Stalin’s War” over at unz that compares Suvorov’ “Icebreaker” with McMeekin’s work:

The most dramatic material evidence of more offensive Soviet intent was the construction of forward air bases abutting the new frontier separating Stalin’s empire from Hitler’s. The “Main Soviet Administration of Aerodrome Construction,” run by the NKVD, ordered the construction of 251 new Red Air Force bases in 1941, of which fully 80 percent (199) were located in western districts abutting the German Reich.[11]
In view of the evidence, McMeekin believes that “the ideal launch date for the Soviet offensive … fell in late July or August.”[12]
McMeekin even reinforces Suvorov’s argument that Hitler’s mobilization on the Eastern Front was a reaction to Stalin’s war preparations, rather than the opposite, by showing that, as early as June 1940, the Germans were receiving Intelligence reports that
the Red Army, capitalizing on the Wehrmacht’s concentration in the West, was preparing to march from Lithuania into virtually undefended East Prussia and German-occupied Poland. … On June 19, a German spy reported from Estonia that the Soviets had informed the departing British ambassador in Tallinn that Stalin planned to deploy three million troops in the Baltic region “to threaten Germany’s eastern borders.”[13]
McMeekin uses the same archives as Suvorov, but never gives him credit for first bringing them into the light. The only exception is in a single endnote, where he mentions that one of Stalin’s reasons for believing that Hitler would not attack in June was that he had “learned, via spies inside Germany, that OKW had not ordered the sheepskin coats experts believed to be necessary for winter campaigning in Russia, and that the fuel and lubricating oil used by the Wehrmacht’s armored divisions would freeze in subzero temperatures.” The note says: “Not all of Suvorov’s claims stand up, but this one gels well with Stalin’s sanguine attitude toward reports of the German arms buildup.”[14] In another footnote, McMeekin disputes Suvorov’s claim that Stalin ordered in spring 1941 the dismantlement of the “Stalin Line” of defense that would hamper the advances of his troops: it was not dismantled but simply “neglected”, says McMeekin, before adding: “Here, as elsewhere, Suvorov hurts his case by over-egging the pudding.”[15] Such criticism would be fair, if McMeekin had also acknowledged the overwhelming mass of facts that Suvorov got right.

It seems that the source for both McMeekin and Suvorov are thd same orders from the NKvD in the Soviet Archives. There is no reason to assume that these sources would be fraudulent or in error.
1000 air bases should read 200. My exaggeration.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 21 2023 23:54 utc | 225

a highly ideological piece about the new frontier:
BRICS vs. West
Foreign Policy article
“6 Swing States Will Decide the Future of Geopolitics
These middle powers of the global south should be the focus of U.S. policy.”
By Cliff Kupchan, the chairman of Eurasia Group.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/06/geopolitics-global-south-middle-powers-swing-states-india-brazil-turkey-indonesia-saudi-arabia-south-africa/
BUT: If you want to actually know the plans the US has then it is wise to read it.
In essence: every statement about the “middle” powers here (RU one of them) I see as wrong but articulates the GOAL to be achieved.
So, e.g. the author says, RU “ideology” is alienating the Global South.
That is wishful thinking, but they will try to make that reality.
India is regarded as player against China.
This too is of course a popular cliché right now to claim.
But then, it is mainly a claim because it is viable for US foreign policy.
So they will do everything to make it in fact turn out that way.
Make the test: Were the US interested in India and China forming an alliance in the future, for whatever hypothetical reason, the same author would probably just write the absolute opposite.
THAT you call propaganda, and thats why it is the opposite of real scholarhip.
link originally suggested by Pepe Escobar on the same topic HERE:
https://www.unz.com/pescobar/the-hegemon-will-go-full-hybrid-war-against-brics/

Posted by: AG | Jun 22 2023 0:10 utc | 226

You frequently allude to “low culture” and the like for why the US is in decline, but this is a perfect example of the real reason for the decline of the US. Namely the fact that the government has been co-opted for decades not by “Woke” culture or “low culture” but by the greed and extra- or supra-governmental power of finance/extractive Capitalist Elites.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 21 2023 21:58 utc | 223
Society being run by capitalist elites is an example of what I mean by ‘low culture’ (as opposed to high culture).
Definition? In low cultures unvirtuous people rise and virtuous people fall or are not able to rise. In high cultures virtuous people rise and the unvirtuous do not.
Even if they are mainly there for show, we can see how Western leadership classes do not exhibit great virtue – health,fitness, discipline, wisdom, kindness etc. The society values the wrong things. One sign is having merchant-money classes valued so highly. The day a monarch let a banker have leverage over him was the day that monarch should have been deposed lest the monarchy, and with it the kingdom and all subjects therein were betrayed and doomed to lowering culture because that which is naturally lower in virtue was being raised above that which should have been higher. I’m not saying monarchy is the only virtuous system, it’s just a model easy to use as an example.
It will take many generations for the West to refashion a society which values virtue over materialism given how deeply embedded the latter now is in all classes and countries.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 22 2023 0:26 utc | 227

Current great example of low culture at the conservative treehouse site:

Congressman Tom McClintock Questions John Durham About His Four-Year Investigation
June 21, 2023 | Sundance | 96 Comments
Today, for the first time, the broader American public met the face of the four-year investigation into the origin of the Trump-Russia hoax. Special Counsel John Durham testified before the House Judiciary Committee.
What a larger audience is now recognizing is what people on these pages have been discussing for quite some time. John Durham was/is the institutional preservation officer hired by Bill Barr to carefully navigate the corruption of the DOJ and FBI without actually holding anyone accountable for the corruption within the DOJ and FBI. Put succinctly, Bill Barr was the Bondo application and John Durham was the spray paint.
The rotting and corrupt carcass of our justice system is what remains hidden underneath the efforts of Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham. This is their legacy. Congressman Tom McClintock asks high-brow questions of John Durham, WATCH:

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 22 2023 0:46 utc | 228

@karlof1 219
thx
reading it right now

Posted by: AG | Jun 22 2023 1:59 utc | 229

ZH has a posting up with the title
The Waterworks Of Money
Authors: Carlijn Kingma (cartographer), Thomas Bollen (investigative journalist) and Martijn van der Linden (professor New Finance at The Hague University of Applied Sciences) have created a beginning documentary of the money system visualized as an irrigation system.
Check it out…. 22 minutes well spent and maybe even understandable to a broader range of folk than normal

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 22 2023 5:18 utc | 230

The ‘evidence’ of Stalin’s intended attack on poor old Hitler could hardly be thinner. With regard, for example, to the alleged 200 airbases in the west, it ought to be borne in mind that most of them will have been located in territories (in Belarus for example) reclaimed from Poland in 1939, and will have involved rebuilding extant airfields oriented towards attack on the USSR.
The whole point about Stalin was his excessive caution and moderation- qualities which were very evident in his legalistic agreements with Chiang and the western allied powers. In order to stick to the undertakings that he had made he sacrificed enormous numbers of Chinese communists, as well as the Greek Resistance and communists in western Europe. The PLA had almost completed its conquest of China before Stalin switched his support from the KMT to the CP.
He received many warnings that the Nazis were about to attack but he refused to be the party breaking the non-aggression pact. Again the cost in terms of Soviet lives was enormous.
His punctillious observance of the agreements made with Japan are another example of his legalism. Like Putin in recent decades he could never quite bring himself to understand that the states with which he was dealing were utterly untrustworthy and treacherous.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 22 2023 16:06 utc | 231

any really good books on stalin? thanks..

Posted by: james | Jun 22 2023 16:48 utc | 232

@ james | Jun 22 2023 16:48 utc | 232
Radzinsky’s bio of Stalin.

Posted by: John Kennard | Jun 22 2023 17:56 utc | 233

Posted by: bevin | Jun 22 2023 16:06 utc | 231
The whole point about Stalin was his excessive caution and moderation-
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You mean like his Great Purge?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
Look, Bevin: I am willing to concede that some of the revisionist pendulum-swinging-back exercises may go too far. However, that is largely true on all sides of such inflammatory, truly extraordinary times.
It’s the same in US politics right now: both sides have very extreme views of their opponents, many of which are unhinged from reality. And yet the very extremism of those views is a type of truth in itself, the truth of extremism in the US Body politic.
So one (little) beef I have with your perspective is that you are supremely confident that your side is largely angelic so that all who opposed and oppose must, by definition, be demonic. That means that you exercise confirmation bias when confronted with anything that might challenge the side you have chosen. It also makes you an extremist and therefore part of the problem not part of the solution.
And since you possess obviously superior intellect coupled with exception depth of learning, you have good reason to look down your (Gallic or Jewish?!) nose at those whose opinions are expressed with less intellectual acumen and academic breadth.
But.
BUt.
BUT!

Posted by: scorpion | Jun 22 2023 18:28 utc | 234

“Suvorov” (Rezun) makes his case overwhelmingly in Icebreaker (Ledokol).
But don’t take my or anyone else’s word for or against it, read it yourself, either the (“cancelled”) English translation (check out the prices for used copies) or the original Russian (he has a really punchy style, like Solzhenitsyn).
His account of the movement of the Red Army to the (new) Western border in Spring of ’41 is positively hair-raising.
I guess it’s the American gadgeteer in me, but my favorite bit of evidence is the BT tank (“Betka”), which was a light tank with narrow treads not much good as a general tank, but which upon reaching good roads could drop its tracks and take off on its wheels at 50-60 mph, which the SU produced more of than all other tank-models in the world before the war (most got scrapped after Barbarossa, there not being many good roads from Poland east).
I automatically discount any theory of the war that maintains that either Hitler or Stalin trusted the other, and Munich and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact were the Minsk Accords of their day.

Posted by: John Kennard | Jun 22 2023 18:46 utc | 235

any really good books on stalin? thanks..
Posted by: james | Jun 22 2023 16:48 utc | 232
James, lots of good reading at Stalin Archive
Stalin is easy to follow and is not given to ponderous writing. His works are listed chronologically so it’s easy to zero in on something. I just went there again and read this:
On the Final Victory of Socialism in the U.S.S.R. (January 18, 1938)

Indeed, it would be ridiculous and stupid to close our eyes to the capitalist encirclement and to think that our external enemies, the fascists, for example, will not, if the opportunity arises, make an attempt at a military attack upon the U.S.S.R. Only blind braggarts or masked enemies who desire to lull the vigilance of our people can think like that.
No less ridiculous would it be to deny that in the event of the slightest success of military intervention, the interventionists would try to destroy the Soviet system in the districts they occupied and restore the bourgeois system.
Did not Denikin and Kolchak restore the bourgeois system in the districts they occupied? Are the fascists any better than Denikin or Kolchak?
Only blockheads or masked enemies who with their boastfulness want to conceal their hostility and are striving to demobilise the people, can deny the danger of military intervention and attempts at restoration as long as the capitalist encirclement exists.
Can the victory of Socialism in one country be regarded as final if this country is encircled by capitalism, and if it is not fully guaranteed against the danger of intervention and restoration?
Clearly, it cannot.

It reminded me of the present day situation in Russia.They are not protecting Socialism but still they are being threatened by the same ol’ gang of predators. Putin & Co. have echoed what Stalin wrote there.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 22 2023 18:59 utc | 236

@ John Kennard | Jun 22 2023 17:56 utc | 233
thanks john! cheers james

Posted by: james | Jun 22 2023 18:59 utc | 237

@ waynorinorway | Jun 22 2023 18:59 utc | 236
thanks! i am staying away from sitting and reading on a computer as much as possible, but thank you..

Posted by: james | Jun 22 2023 19:00 utc | 238

@ waynorinorway | Jun 22 2023 18:59 utc | 236
that is a very good quote and does relate to where we are at present as well.. thanks for that!

Posted by: james | Jun 22 2023 19:01 utc | 239

On May 2, 1941, a group of highly-ranked Nazis held a meeting where it was decided that during the coming invasion of the USSR, all food in Velikorussia (RSFSR) would be taken to Germany, which would result in up to 30 million deaths among Velikorussians (Russians).
Three weeks later, on May 23, 1941, these decisions were formalized in a policy paper called “Wirtschaftspolitische Richtlinien für Wirtschaftsorganisation Ost, Gruppe Landwirtschaft” [Economic policy directives for the East Economic Organization, Agriculture Group]. The policy paper can be read (in German) in Trial of the Major War Criminals before the International Military Tribunal (known as “The Blue Series”), volume XXXVI, page 135 (document 126-EC).
Curiously, this policy paper has never been published in Russian in full—until yesterday. To provide the neccessary context, Russian historian Yegor Yakovlev has written an introductory article. Here’s my translation of it:
The Hunger Plan: The Complete Text of the Nazi Directives — Introductory Article (Istoriya.RF, Yegor N. Yakovlev, June 21, 2023 — in Russian)

Directives on economic policy for the agricultural group of the Ost economic staff, found in 1945 in the papers of the German High Command, are one of the most important additions to the well-known Barbarossa plan. This Nazi document contains instructions on how exactly to carry out the economic robbery of the territories of the USSR after their capture.
This note, it would seem, has been known for a long time. As document EC-126, submitted by the U.S. side, it appeared at the Nuremberg trials, where the U.S. prosecutor Whitney Harris described it as follows:
“The pages of this document reveal a prearranged plan to kill millions of innocent Soviet citizens by starvation. The document clearly states that the killing of millions of innocents was premeditated. The document shows that this murder plan had to be carried out on such a huge scale that it exceeded all boundaries of human imagination.” (Nyurnbergskiy protsess…, vol. 4, p. 282.)
It is all the more striking that these stark directives have not yet been fully translated into Russian. The publication of more or less lengthy extracts from the document took place in the USSR only in 1987 in the collection Prestupnyye tseli gitlerovskoy Germanii v voyne protiv Sovetskogo Soyuza, and most of the text was omitted, including one of the most cannibalistic phrases (“Many dozens of millions in this territory will become redundant and die or be forced to move to Siberia”) (Prestupnyye tseli gitlerovskoy Germanii v voyne protiv Sovetskogo Soyuza…, pp. 250–254). The original paragraph containing the phrase was published without this sentence and even without an ellipsis before the excised fragment.
The second time excerpts from the directives appeared in Russian was in 1991, in the 4th volume of the publication of the materials of the Nuremberg Trials, however, not as a separate document, but as part of the speech by Whitney Harris, who quoted it before the High Court (Nyurnbergskiy protsess…, vol. 4, p. 282). It is not surprising that this most important text remained and still remains practically unused in Russian historiography.
Even on the website of the state project “Crimes of the Nazis and their accomplices against the civilian population of the USSR in 1941–1945,” to this day, only excerpts are provided. For example, it completely omits the description of the agricultural exports system of the Russian Empire and the indication of the growth in Soviet population as the primary factor in the sharp decrease in grain surpluses for export to foreign markets. Meanwhile, it was precisely from these arguments that the Nazi thesis about starvation of millions of citizens of the Soviet Union after a forced return to the export model of 1914 followed.
Meanwhile, in recent years, this document and its background have attracted more and more attention from European and U.S. researchers (Gerlach 1999, Kay 2011, Benz 2011, Dieckmann 2015, Tooze 2018). The leading scientists see it as the basis of the so-called hunger plan—a system of measures that were supposed to lead to the transformation of the Third Reich into economic autarky at the cost of starvation of millions of Soviet citizens. Western historiography has stated, in the words of the famous British historian Adam Tooze, that “the Wehrmacht invaded the Soviet Union with the intention of carrying out not one, but two programs of mass murder” (Tooze 2018, p. 609). From the very beginning of the war against the USSR, it was not only the Jews who were targeted for destruction by the political elite of the Third Reich—their tragedy was terrible and no one is doubting it—but also a very wide group of Soviet citizens of other nationalities that was estimated by Nazi planners at 20–30 million people.
This program was prepared in the bowels of the Ost economic staff (originally, Oldenburg staff), created for the economic management of the occupied Soviet lands. The staff began work in March 1941. General der Luftwaffe Wilhelm Schubert, a military officer from the team of the Four-Year Plan Plenipotentiary Hermann Göring, was appointed head of the organization. The extremely important agricultural group of the staff was headed by the State Secretary of the Ministry of Food and Agriculture Herbert Backe—a devoted Nazi, close to Hitler and Göring, a personal friend of the head of the SS Himmler. It was he who was the main author of the directives.
The history of the preparation of the Backe plan is as follows. After the beginning of the British naval blockade of the German coast, the Third Reich began to experience serious problems with food, primarily with grain. Nazi economists proposed to fill the resulting gap by massive plundering the USSR, with which both political leaders and military command happily agreed. At the same time, while the inhabitants of the occupied black earth territories (the Ukraine, the South of Russia and the North Caucasus) were initially supposed to be a semi-slave labor force that would cultivate fertile lands for German masters, the inhabitants of the so-called forest zone, the non–black earth zone (Belarus, North-West and Central Russia) became superfluous, unnecessary people. No one was going to supply them with the resources of the abundant territories, since the grain was to be sent to supply either the Wehrmacht or the German layman. It followed from this that a significant part of the inhabitants of the USSR would simply die as a result of a man-made humanitarian catastrophe.
The economic considerations of extermination were not the only ones: they linked up with the political plans to conquer the living space in the East, undermine the demographic resources of the enemy and subsequently replace the indigenous population with German colonists. In other words, in order to secure the coveted lands for themselves, the Nazis had to drastically reduce the indigenous population. The hunger plan gave them the tool to do it fast.
It is very characteristic that the paper of the Ost economic staff mentions not only economic, but also ethnic motivation for the destruction.
“…The Velikorussians [Russians — S], no matter whether under the Tsar or under the Bolsheviks, always remain the main enemy not only of Germany, but also of Europe. It also follows from this that market regulation and product rationing for this region [i.e., Russia — translator] are out of the question, because such rationing would suggest that the German administration has some obligations to the population. We dismiss such claims out of hand.”
Moreover, from the directives we learn that the Nazi leadership pursued a political line against a specific people:
“Since the political line is directed against the Velikorussians, it becomes an important task to push the Velikorussians into the forest zone [the famine zone — Yegor Yakovlev], and to occupy the vacated collective farms with the remaining Malorussians [Ukrainians — S].” It is curious that this fragment of the document has never been included in the “extracts” that were published in Russian earlier.
The essence of the Nazi “political line” is best expressed in the statements of the leaders of the Third Reich. On June 10, 1941, the head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler, met with the author of the hunger plan, Herbert Backe, after which he went to Wewelsburg Castle to meet with his closest employees who were to work in the occupied territories. There, the Reichsführer, according to the testimony of a meeting participant, General Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski, declared: “The purpose of the campaign against Russia is to reduce the number of Slavs by 30 million people” (IMT, vol. IV, p. 482). During the days of the battles on the Eastern Front, the Führer himself [Hitler — S] confidently declared: the success of the settlers in North America was due to the fact that the colonists “brought down the number of redskins from several million to several hundred thousand.” “In the East, the head of the Third Reich argued, the same thing would happen a second time…” (Kershaw 2001, pp. 434–35).
Many more such frank statements by the leaders of Nazi Germany can be cited.
Thus, although in the calculations of economists the economic background of the extermination is most clearly traced, the political leadership purposefully sought not only to obtain food surpluses, but also to undermine the demographic resources of the enemy, as well as to clear the land for its subsequent settlement by the Germans (for more details, see Yakovlev 2020).
The political line of the Nazis for the partial extermination of the Slavs/Velikorussians wasn’t implemented in full, of course. Hitler’s Germany failed to seize all the black earth territories of the USSR and completely isolate the population of the non–black earth regions from food sources. Nevertheless, the plans of the NSDAP were partially implemented. The victims of the deliberate policy of hunger were Soviet prisoners of war, of which 2.5 to 3.3 million people died.
The destruction of the inhabitants [during] the blockade of Leningrad, the first large city of the non–black earth zone lying in Wehrmacht’s path, was genetically linked to the Backe plan. Today, Russian and German scholars mostly agree that the blockade was precisely a genocide, that is, the goal was not to seize the city as a fortress, but to kill its population. Führer’s unwillingness to feed the residents of Leningrad is recorded in the war diary of Franz Halder (entry dated July 8, 1941, Halder 2003, p. 54). Later, Hitler dictated to Admiral Kurt Fricke a directive explaining why he was going not to occupy, but to destroy and starve Leningrad: “In this war, waged for the right to exist, we are not interested in preserving at least a part of the population” (Organy gosudarstvennoy bezopasnosti SSSR…, p. 538). On October 7, the OKW [High Command of the Armed Forces — S] issued a directive to Army Group North not to accept the surrender of an already encircled city, even if it is proposed. This exposed the genocidal plans of the Nazi elite once and for all. Moreover, on the same day, a similar directive was issued to Army Group Centre regarding Moscow: the plan was to surround it and not to accept its surrender, too.
In addition, the hunger plan also worked in the occupied territories, where a large-scale robbery of the indigenous population was carried out. Moreover, while initially the policy of artificial famine was not intended for the large cities of the black soil region, in reality it also affected this region: for example, in 1941–42, the Nazis organized a famine in Kiev and Kharkov, which, in its consequences, of course, is incomparable with the situation of besieged Leningrad, yet nevertheless claimed tens of thousands of lives. Among the victims of the Backe plan were residents of the occupied cities of the BSSR and the RSFSR, the front-line cities of the Leningrad Oblast, primarily Pushkin, Pavlovsk, Shlisselburg. The population of the front-line zones, whom the German command deported to the rear, not caring much about feeding them or supplying them to any degree, was systematically starved to death. Thus, although the plan, traces of which we see in Backe’s directives, was much larger than what happened in reality, it nevertheless brought death to millions of Soviet citizens.
References
Nyurnbergskiy protsess. Sbornik materialov. Vol. 4. Moscow. 1991.
Prestupnyye tseli gitlerovskoy Germanii v voyne protiv Sovetskogo Soyuza. Moscow. 1987.
Gerlach, Christian (1999). Kalkulierte Morde. Die deutsche Wirtschafts- und Vernichtungspolitik in Weißrußland 1941 bis 1944. Hamburg.
Kay, Alex J. (2011). Exploitation, Resettlement, Mass Murder: Political and Economic Planning for German Occupation Policy in the Soviet Union, 1940–1941. New York.
Benz, Wigbert (2011). Der Hungerplan im „Unternehmen Barbarossa“ 1941. Berlin.
Dieckmann, Christoph (2015). “Das Scheitern des Hungerplans und die Praxis der selektiven Hungerpolitik im deutschen Krieg gegen die Sowjetunion.” Kriegführung und Hunger 1939–1945. Zum Verhältnis von militärischen, wirtschaftlichen und politischen Interessen. Göttingen: Wallstein. pp. 88–122.
Tooze, Adam (2018). Tsena razrusheniya. Sozdaniye i gibel natsistskoy ekonomiki. Moscow. [The Russian edition of The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy (2008). — S]
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Kershaw, Ian (2001). Hitler: 1936–1945: Nemesis. New York.
Yakovlev, Yegor N. (2020). Voyna na unichtozheniye. Tretiy reykh i genotsid sovetskogo naroda. Saint Petersburg.
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Posted by: S | Jun 22 2023 19:11 utc | 240

“That means that you exercise confirmation bias when confronted with anything that might challenge the side you have chosen.
It also makes you an extremist and therefore part of the problem not part of the solution.”
Posted by: scorpion | Jun 22 2023 18:28 utc | 234
Good gawd what tosh!
Here, try this for some Tosh that’s not the rubbish you spew: Mama Africa

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 22 2023 19:28 utc | 241

@234 scorpion
bevin needs the spotless victim of the Soviet Union. Why? Because he (rightfully) knows that the liberal west is headed for a catastrophic decline in its living standard that will engender the ability of those on the flanks, both right and left, to gather a greater following and perhaps tip the scales towards either one of these outcomes.
Lenin knew this phenomenon all too well: he called it “revolutionary defeatism,” and in his day, he thought that the declining material conditions of Russia during the Great War would be the foot-in-the-door for burgeoning communist sentiment.
We are indeed at the precipice of this revolutionary defeatism and the battle is and will be turning increasingly domestic, for the mind and soul of those increasingly disenfranchised by the collapsing liberal system.
And here is a confession from me: I don’t know what side is worse! In our media currently, the scapegoat of weimar-esque sexual-expression is currently being set-up to offer itself the blow-off for the raging traditionalist-mind to dismember. That is why I think that DJT will probably be re-elected. But whereas I view the DJT-phenomenon of waning-globalism as a positive that will offer those in the west a platform to synthesize and integrate what works on a national-level, Donald Trump himself has become something of a Judas-Goat in my mind…and the exorcising of these scapegoats will give him the ability to usher in all kinds of further technological means of controlling the population…namely, a CBDC. What better antidote, if you are an international elite, to combat antiglobalist sentiment than with a man as boisterous as DJT when it comes decrying globalism, but utterly failing to deliver on anything substantial and meaningful, and who, indeed, is relief valve par excellence, the elites need for the time to get their ducks in a row.
I don’t like any of ’em: the Bolshies…or the raging-traditionalist mind that, if he were to really look at what America could be in his glory, would have to travel probably as far back as 1850, and might still be perplexed at that fork-in-the-road, to understand what America might or could be. I am thinking of what Walt Whitman said after he was so taken with Hegel: “Only Hegel is fit for America.”
The only thing I see as beneficial to the elites would be a wholesale collapse of westernism to be able to reorganize somewhat locally/regionally…iow a return to a kind of merit-based, what-works-is-best method.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 22 2023 21:16 utc | 242

The Duran shines on breaking down the Blinken China trip and Biden’s apparent foot in mouth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc3NMUO_J9s

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 22 2023 21:18 utc | 243

@ psychohistorian | Jun 22 2023 5:18 utc | 230
Thank you. That is one compelling piece of animation. Very clear narration too. I look forward to watching this. The direct YouTube link:
The Waterworks of Money (Part 1/2) English
It does indeed seem to show how the economy works, especially of interest to the layer under the boot heel.

Posted by: Grieved | Jun 23 2023 0:09 utc | 244

Posted by: S | Jun 22 2023 19:11 utc | 240
Whew! Difficult to imagine the depraved thinking that went on there.
I hope it sees the light of day now that it has been published.
It may be good to post it earlier in an upcoming Open Thread where it would be more visible.
Maybe a short summary and a few ‘choice’ quotes would get some conversation.
I don’t suppose too many here will bother to read it, particularly the Nazi apologists.
Thanks for taking the time to translate and post it, even so.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 23 2023 4:37 utc | 245

A quite readable essay on the integration of the European economy was published by China Daily. Excerpts follow.

EU infrastructure plan still a daydream

One of Germany’s leading business newspapers, Handelsblatt, leaked information in May 2021 that the German government had become very concerned about the EU’s “lack of ambition” in this regard, leaving the field entirely to China for infrastructure projects worldwide. An internal government paper allegedly stated that instead of pushing for a “visible and globally oriented EU connectivity strategy”, the project was not getting off the ground due to the “reluctance of the EU Commission”.
The EU-Asia connectivity strategy simply disappeared after that. Then came its supposed successor, “Global Gateway”, presented by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen on Dec 1, 2021. According to the joint communication, the EU’s commitment was to be expanded and better communicated, and the sum of €300 billion ($328.44 billion) to be allocated between 2021 and 2027. While some flagship projects were listed in March this year, the Global Gateway has already drawn criticism from a whole network of public interest groups from almost every EU country.

Global Gateway funding is often tied to meeting the International Monetary Fund’s conditions, such as lowering public sector wages.

There is no way around it: all European countries must be invited individually to represent themselves as nations at the upcoming Belt and Road Forum for international Cooperation.
And as many European governments as possible should sign new or expand existing memorandums and form a “European Belt and Road mechanism” outside the non-workable EU to communicate with China on joint project implementation.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202306/21/WS64921d1ba310bf8a75d6af71.html

Posted by: too scents | Jun 23 2023 7:08 utc | 246

Don’t stroke out, MoA. RT Cross Talk awarded a window to Andrei Martyanov. For one day only. ahahahaha. One hopes.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 23 2023 11:27 utc | 247

United States entered into an agreement with India for the repair and maintenance of ships of the US Navy at the Indian shipyard Larsen and Toubro in the vicinity of Chennai. A similar decision is expected for two other Indian shipyards.
“These agreements will allow U.S. Navy ships to undergo mid-voyage maintenance and repairs at Indian shipyards, which will help to economically support U.S. military operations in various theaters of war” the statement said.

Posted by: rk | Jun 23 2023 12:24 utc | 248

On james’ search for literature on Stalin – I recommend Dmitry Shostakovitch’ Symphony 10 (Kondrashin).
DSCH was dubbed a chronologist of the russian people. Here, he’s taking it out on Stalin after his death; I understand that movement 2 is him signing the death lists in his office. Shostakovitch had been living in fear of arrest ever since Stalin unfavourably remarked on his opera, Lady Macbeth of Minsk, and slept with a packed suitcase under his bed every night.
Any “Nazi apologists” in this thread should also listen to his famous 7th Symphony “Leningrad”, written during the siege of the city, while he was guarding the conservatory with a rifle in his hand.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 23 2023 12:41 utc | 249

The only thing I see as beneficial to the elites would be a wholesale collapse of westernism to be able to reorganize somewhat locally/regionally…iow a return to a kind of merit-based, what-works-is-best method.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 22 2023 21:16 utc | 242
Interesting thoughts re Trump. An enigma wrapped in … Not sure I follow your ending paragraph’s thrust viz elites but the last sentence would be terrific.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 23 2023 13:42 utc | 250

Halder, Franz (2003). Voyennyy dnevnik 1941–1942. Moscow. [Original English publication: volumes I (partial), II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII. — S]
Organy gosudarstvennoy bezopasnosti SSSR v Velikoy Otechestvennoy voyne: sbornik dokumentov. Vol. 2: Nachalo. Book 2 (September 1 – December 31, 1941). Moscow. 2000.
Posted by: S | Jun 22 2023 19:11 utc | 240
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Great post. I read years ago of a Stalin speech threatening to take communism all the way through Europe to Lisbon. At least for a while there was a sense of existential struggle. After the extremely vicious and chaotic revolution and purges in Russia, with horrifying narratives which both embellished as well as hid many of its more atrocious elements, the stage was gradually set for a struggle which would murder millions.
As I wrote here earlier, I don’t believe any one side can convincingly maintain that their opponents are the only Bad Guys in the mix and they are pure as driven snow, though of course one can argue about degrees.
The current brouhaha in Ukraine is in no small part due to the dishonorable murder of the entire Romanoff family by vile Jewish Bolshevik revolutionaries who espoused lawlessness as a means to effect materialist notions of a successful end. And of course such revolution didn’t come out of a vacuum and so on ad infinitum. Current events are the tip of a spear whose main length stretches back centuries into a past we can at best only vaguely intuit.
In this context the way Russia is conducting the SMO, indeed even conceiving it as such, is a great Leap Forward in such matters because he is not conflating it, rather trying to implode it in a contained fashion. Unprecedented. But still: the need for such a thing has roots in unfinished business from Stalin’s time and indeed long before including violence, poor decisions and weakness creating a vacuum filled by improvised Ukrainian nationalism. It is partly their mess, in other words, so unfortunately fitting that they have to clean it up.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 23 2023 14:01 utc | 251

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2306.12925v1.pdf
AudioPaLM: A Large Language Model That Can Speak and Listen
We introduce AudioPaLM, a large language model for speech understanding and generation.

AudioPaLM inherits the capability to preserve paralinguistic information such as speaker identity and intonation from AudioLM and the linguistic knowledge present only in text large language models such as PaLM-2.

The resulting model significantly outperforms existing systems for speech translation tasks and has the ability to perform zero-shot speech-to-text translation for many languages for which input/target language combinations were not seen in training. AudioPaLM also demonstrates features of audio language models, such as transferring a voice across languages based on a short spoken prompt.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jun 23 2023 14:37 utc | 252

Posted by: John Kennard | Jun 22 2023 18:46 utc | 235
“Suvorov” (Rezun) makes his case overwhelmingly in Icebreaker (Ledokol).
But don’t take my or anyone else’s word for or against it, read it yourself, either the (“cancelled”) English translation (check out the prices for used copies) or the original Russian (he has a really punchy style, like Solzhenitsyn). ….
I automatically discount any theory of the war that maintains that either Hitler or Stalin trusted the other, and Munich and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact were the Minsk Accords of their day.
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Great post. I replied earlier but just noticed that it got gremlined out.
Your advice to actually read the book is well taken. I remember years ago my first foray into an internet forum was at ATOL, the Spengler section, where, on saying something about how the plight of the Palestinians was a deplorable affair, I was accused of being a holocaust deniar, a term and concept with which was entirely unfamiliar. So I looked it up and then ended up reading through nearly all of Irving’s trial transcripts and several of his (very well written) books after which was occasionally stunned by the vast gap between what many were saying about him, both at the trial and in the Press, and what he wrote that they found so offensive. I don’t recall him ever addressing the camps issue in his works – until quite late in the day long after he had been pilloried and punished and so a little radicalized – but he did punch holes in the Hitler-and-Germans as irredeemable devils narrative which was prevalent in the eighties and nineties, much more so than in earlier decades I think. Some people take it personally when you debunk their narratives!
In any case, Suvorov’s books – though I think only ever read Icebreaker – are indeed persuasive and clearly much work went into them, and no little courage. Such large, complex subjects comprise no end of variables and particulars, as do world wars and such, so it’s essentially useless to summarize them into a few paragraphs. Any time I read material that compacts the thrust of whatever is being said into strongly prejudicial emotive terms about any given subject, I now turn away instinctively. It’s like people who think that a juicy ad hominem makes a convincing argument; it might on the emotional level, but that is as far as it goes and is usually offered in lieu of anything substantive, and therefore interesting.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 23 2023 14:38 utc | 253

@250 scorpion
Yeah…my last paragraph there is a goof. I meant to say what would be best to rid ourselves of our parasitic elite would be a collapse of the Federal system to manageable/moderate levels…the reinvigorated decentralization would put the onus on local government to come up with their own solutions without trying to get funny money grants from the Fed.

One more thought on Suvorov. I see that some are smearing him here by lumping him in with the Banderites and saying he is some kind of CIA plant or something.
If that is the case, they need to work on their promotional game, because last I checked, the Nazis-bad uber-narrative is all in our country. And Suvorov’s Icebreaker, though both incredibly reasonable and alstwhile earthshaking, is as far from mainstream as you can get.
You can tell the communists from not being willing to give reasonable thought a fair shake and smearing it as Cia/Fascist. It’s so obvious at this point.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 23 2023 15:50 utc | 254

“You can tell the communists from not being willing to give reasonable thought a fair shake and smearing it as Cia/Fascist. It’s so obvious at this point.”
Yup. That’s what I mean by leading with the emotion. In fact, one of the principal uses of the atrocity narratives is to create an intense emotional predicate in the mind. For whatever atavistic reason, untrained people – which is the vast majority of us of course – respond more to emotion than reason. Or put another way: our reason and judgment is colored more by emotional persuasion than pure logic alone. Bevin, for example, is a bit of a master in this regard. He provides much better than average quality in terms of detail and linguistic elegance as jabs and other combinations but then always punches heavily on the emotive front with a few well chosen, impeccably timed, knock-out blows.
I greatly value his posts here even though I often find myself shaking a virtual head at how he got from Point A to Point B. Is it truth or fiction or what? Verily, it is hard to tell and we are left more with our gut than our head. (Hmm…maybe that’s why emotion-belief always overpowers logic-reason.)
Humans are amazing creatures…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 23 2023 19:02 utc | 255

Dos attacks on MOA.
‘Ormrod’meditation’ …read GCHQ.
And shadowbanned pops up right on que.
Any one notice some top quilty commenters have disapered ? A lot.
Russia has nothing to do with it, look west.
Bad stuff coming dawn the pike my freands. Time to wake up. and run.
Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 23 2023 6:14 utc | 202
The DOS (denial of service) few days ago – and now the massive ‘professional grade’ trolls in the other threads (like ‘sour’ and others) prove that the ‘free Western world’ is a mirage. The Sovjet style mind control was a kindergarden compared to this.

Posted by: fanto | Jun 23 2023 19:38 utc | 256

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 22 2023 5:18 utc | 230;
Posted by: Grieved | Jun 23 2023 0:09 utc | 244:
Thank you both for introducing this video script. I did not see a link in psychohistorian’s post but viewed the one Grieved provided. Interesting clip! It is layman enough for even dupes like myself to catch the gist. But I see one short comings: it’s too plain a view of the “money shenanigan” to explain what in reality happens in the contemporary world- the contemporary world of the west at least. It explains the theoretical functions of what “money” is supposed to circulate and regulate: pays, rents, productive investments, etc. It totally ignored the shenanigan part of money laundering: the politics, the legal maneuvering, the outright robberies of frivolous taxations, and the mandated funneling of monetary resources to certain favored sectors, in our case the healthcare sector and the legal sector.
Many here, including the two of you, have over the past couple years cried about the malice of Big Pharma in this vaccine business. True enough! You are both astute and correct. None has ever complained about the comical antics of legal undertakings just to feed the lawyers of our society. Medical accounts for 17% of US GDP; legal accounts for 7% of GDP. But ALL OF RETAIL sectors combined accounts for ONLY 5.5% of our GDP!!! That’s 330 million folks going to restaurants, markets, Sam’s/Costco, theaters, ball games, whisky bars, ….. I can go on, but these combines can only come to 67% of what lawyers put into their pockets, or only 1/3 of what medicine man and administrators (most of them are lawyers) put into theirs! What travesty!!!!
The Fed can print money and inject them in the circulation. That’s not explained in the vid. Government can bail out the favorite brown nosers, that’s not explained how or why justified either. Just on the flimsy claim of necessity, to prevent an economy that cannot failed, the f**king dictators in government can flood as much money into the economy as they please, no question asked in academia, in press, in churches, in anywhere!. That shenanigan is nowhere discussed in this vid (but I still call it well-made). Not discussing these issues, under the rug perhaps, then talking about how money works in our society is just bullshit.
There is nothing sacred about gold, but gold has one advantage over paper/electronic money as basis of goods/services exchanges. You can touch and physically move them, and there are so much of them in the reality world. No bullshitters can thrash their tongues and swindle people to give them up for bullshitters benefit, provided the owner of that gold is sane and sober. That advantage trumps paper/electrons as the preferred media of value basis in my point of view.
Just saying!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jun 23 2023 19:46 utc | 257

Just saw that the EU has agreed on a Euro 20,000 fine put in place for each time an EU country refuses to take a migrant!
https://www.euractiv.com/section/migration/news/eu-ministers-reach-historic-deal-on-migrant-relocation/
Of course, no country in Europe held a referendum on taking in millions and millions of Ukrainian migrants. Poland has now announced a referendum, after already taking in probably at least 4 million long-term (the rest of the 12+ million moved onto other EU states). The EU is probably getting ready for the next wave of millions of migrants as it becomes obvious that Russia will win and take all of Ukraine. Also, attempting to get all the Syrian, Libyan etc. refugees held in Italy, Greece and Malta moved into the rest of the EU.
The EU elites benefit from the destruction of Libya, Syria and Ukraine while benefitting from lots of new cheap labour while the populations of Europe will have to deal with the fallout of such massive immigration flows from countries very different to Europe. Oh the European garden, it is being invaded by forest inhabitants!

Posted by: Roger | Jun 23 2023 22:50 utc | 258

@ Oriental Voice | Jun 23 2023 19:46 utc | 257 with the follow up about the money flow video
Yes it has its limitations as you so well described but it is contextual information that is not available elsewhere. As I recall they say at the end that they are going to do more about things like describe derivatives and that would be good since it is a time bomb of private finance making.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 24 2023 2:23 utc | 259

Shenanigans viz BRICS:
https://infobrics.org/post/38678/

BRICS+ should tread carefully with possible NATO-aligned ‘Trojan horses’
Drago Bosnic, independent geopolitical and military analyst
BRICS+ is by far the fastest-growing geopolitical format of our time. With approximately 30 countries lining up to join, BRICS+ will soon become the world’s largest international organization besides the UN. However, no matter how good this is for the world and the organization itself, BRICS+ needs to be careful about possible NATO/US-aligned ‘Trojan horses’ that might undermine it in the long term. There are several examples of this, France being the latest, with President Emmanuel Macron expressing the desire to attend the upcoming BRICS summit in South Africa.
It seems that the French president aims to become the first Western leader to be invited to such an event, something that could push his geopolitical reach far beyond the influence of any of his NATO counterparts. Since this is the first time a Western leader expressed a desire to attend a BRICS+ summit, many were skeptical about the veracity of such reports, so many media outlets saw this information as not more than mere speculation. However, after French Foreign Minister Catherine Colonna confirmed it, there’s no doubt that Macron is actually trying to arrange his attendance at the summit.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 24 2023 2:39 utc | 260

I’ma gonna post this here away from the braying of the herd & their hysterical over-reaction to a common situation which has everything to do with the RF but only passingly connected to the SMO.
Everything we have witnessed over the last 24 hours tells us of the strength & resilience of the administration of the Russian Federation. This tale of a successful military leader deciding that his successes in the field automatically confer on him the ‘right’ to assert himself politically is as old as Julius Caesar. The roman state riven with corruption and injustice was not powerful enough to resist Caesar, the RF administration is robust enough to take it in it’s stride. This showdown between Prizghosin and Shoigu reminds me of the time in 1944 when Patton attempted to challenge Eisenhower as supreme commander in europe by running his own private PR campaign to show the world he was the really smart one. Patton was pulled into line and it was only the intervention of FDR who decided that it wasn’t a good look which stopped Patton from being court-martialled. The woke hollywood take on it can be found here You’ll notice when ‘Ike’ says the czechs and the danes are also in this war they omit to point out which side they were on – reminds me of a post I made to england’s guardian a couple of weeks back when I pointed out that Finland had been the NW bastion of the siege of Leningrad that murdered more than a million civilians – the post was deleted immediately by moderators truth be damned eh?
This current kerfuffle is going to be used as propaganda fodder for western media for at least a week, see it for what it is an egoist incapable of perceiving a bigger picture which doesn’t include himself, yet who was unable to truly effect any change because the RF is solid and doesn’t collapse from the hissy fit tantrums of one drongo.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 24 2023 6:19 utc | 261

Assuming both sides’ military leadership tends to fall for their own propaganda, the difference between Prigozhin and the NATO Westpresse couldn’t be more stark. One side believes in their imminent victory despite empty arsenals and no progress at the front, while the other side gets a good shaking up like a pillow in the morning.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 24 2023 9:19 utc | 262

The above was typed before the news was in – hmpf. Please excuse my sloppyness.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 24 2023 11:39 utc | 263

Well, has it occurred to enlistment personnel that the just-released IQ status of 14 year olds, 4 years from high school graduation and enlistment age, has sunk to basement level?
The last time we were replete with low IQ, McNamara used them for cannon fodder in Vietnam.
And there is that unnumbered and so-far untapped military age potential of the denizens of the displace persons camps, numbering hundreds of thousands in the Middle East, Asia, India, across the globe.
I most particularly refer to the camps in northwest Syria. If they are not targeted for military use, then why are they there?
We all are aware that the military democratic interventions in countries is solely to disenfranchise the established kingpin and reestablish one with favorable views toward capitalistic exploitation of natural assets. The new bigwig gets all the assets of the ousted population, sometimes a million, gets the elbow room created by evicting the population, and gets cuts of the corporate dealings.
The above is in direct contradiction to what our corporate involvement claims: ASSIST IN DEVELOPING NATUAL ASSETS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTRY ECONOMY. We are despicable. We are incapable of being shamed. Windigos all.

Posted by: katesisco | Jun 24 2023 17:18 utc | 264

The Wagner/Prigozhin episode seems over. But to me this has shown one thing: if Putin is violently replaced, his replacement will be more nationalistic, not less; the war will not end, but escalate; and the risk of the war expanding until it touches your life does not decrease, but rather increases.

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 24 2023 18:36 utc | 265

Big Picture articles are being published despite the events in Russia. Crooke’s al-Mayadeen column is out, “BRICS++: The West tries playing ‘catch-up’, but it’s too late” where he cites this informative article by James Richards related to the BRICS currency that was published three weeks ago. I asked Hudson about the bond market idea, and he agreed it’s an excellent plan. I’m very hopeful that’ll be implemented so we can have an easy alternative to dollarized savings–we could go to Mexico to purchase or perhaps not even need to and get them digitally.
I doubt this posting will stay on the main page index very long, but it will give barflies a respite from other stuff.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 24 2023 23:12 utc | 266

@ karlof1 | Jun 24 2023 23:12 utc | 266 with the Big Picture comment and links…thanks
I was talking to a friend that thought that Germany stood the best chance of an EU country to “flip” but I am reading that Marcon is trying to weasel his way into the August BRICS+ meeting(s).
I will go read your links now

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 25 2023 0:15 utc | 267

@ karlof1 with the link from James Richards and these quotes from it

In all likelihood, the new BRICS+ currency would not be available in the form of paper notes for use in everyday transactions. It would be a digital currency on a permissioned ledger maintained by a new BRICS+ financial institution with encrypted message traffic to record payments due or owing by participating parties. (This is not a cryptocurrency because it is not decentralized, not maintained on a blockchain and not open to all parties without approval.)

But here’s where it gets interesting, and why the dollar could lose its leading reserve status much faster than previously thought.
That’s because the BRICS+ currency offers the opportunity to leapfrog the Treasury market and create a deep, liquid bond market that could challenge Treasuries on the world stage almost from thin air.
The key is to create a BRICS+ currency bond market in 20 or more countries at once, relying on retail investors in each country to buy the bonds.
The BRICS+ bonds would be offered through banks and postal offices and other retail outlets. They would be denominated in BRICS+ currency but investors could purchase them in local currency at market-based exchange rates.
Since the currency is gold backed it would offer an attractive store of value compared with inflation- or default-prone local instruments in countries like Brazil or Argentina. The Chinese in particular would find such investments attractive since they are largely banned from foreign markets and are overinvested in real estate and domestic stocks.
It will take time for such a market to appeal to institutional investors, but the sheer volume of retail investing in BRICS+-denominated instruments in India, China, Brazil and Russia and other countries at the same time could absorb surpluses generated through world trade in the BRICS+ currency.
In short, the way to create an instant reserve currency is to create an instant bond market using your own citizens as willing buyers.

This is the neutron bomb I have written about and I hope it starts to become a reality in August.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 25 2023 0:28 utc | 268

psychohistorian | Jun 25 2023 0:28 utc | 268–
Thanks for your replies. Macron won’t be allowed to attend BRICS. He’ll need to read about it later. If you haven’t yet, I highly suggest the latest Geopolitical Economic Show.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 25 2023 1:42 utc | 269

Well, the Week in Review has aged off the homepage of MoA, but we tracked it down for the last few comments until tomorrow (Sunday).
Macron has already been told he can’t come to the BRICS meeting, in diplomatic but unequivocal terms by South Africa. No link handy, probably RT, and easily searchable.
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Rickards is always worth reading, although he grandstands and plays both sides a bit – but then he has clients on both sides. Thanks for the tips on the new currency…I’ve mentioned before that I’ve been looking for a good global currency for a decade. Perhaps we’re almost there.
Here’s a more modulated view from Alex Krainer in a short (8 minute) discussion. It’s on bitchute, which I think may not pass the censor here, so you’d have to search:
ICONOCLAST One to One Alex Krainer: It’s Going to be Fine!
And here’s a Twitter link that will give you the bitchute link: https://twitter.com/RylandMedia/status/1672033173255888896
He’s talking about the alternative currency, inflation (of western currencies, notably USD) and hyperinflation, and he says there may be a rough patch along the way. but localities have a way of figuring out their exchange media, and they will this time, and it’s going to be fine.
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I confess that, having made the decision to stay here in the USA, I’m thinking more and more of the ways in which we survive and transition through what I suspect will be massive changes in the country, and with massively hope-filled possibilities.

Posted by: Grieved | Jun 25 2023 4:22 utc | 270

What does one say to this Reuters posting title?

Montana bridge collapse sends tank cars into Yellowstone River

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 25 2023 5:15 utc | 271

psychohistorian | Jun 25 2023 5:15 utc | 271–
I read about that incident and moaned/sighed. The railroads and all other infrastructure must be nationalized because the financialized owners of those things are avoiding spending on maintenance to enhance profits. As Hudson and Black explained in their recent podcast, such behavior is criminal, but the criminals own the government, meaning there’s only one real solution. 

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 25 2023 5:25 utc | 272

I am visiting children and grandchildren in Switzerland for the first time since peak covidiotcy when I was banned from bars and resuarants because my
J&J vaccine cert “might be fake”. My impressions are inflation here is not significantly more than the USA. If one assumes that Americans are basically ignoring this war well the Geneva ex=pat community seems far more insulated
and unconcerned.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Jun 25 2023 6:45 utc | 273

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Jun 25 2023 6:45 utc | 273
I simply cannot comprehend your assertion that inflation in Switzerland is not significantly different from USA…………it is incomprehensible……..
How is medical costs inflation ?
How is education cost inflation ?
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Switzerland/United-States/Cost-of-living
https://www.worlddata.info/cost-of-living.php
https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/
https://www.expatica.com/ch/moving/about/cost-of-living-in-switzerland-1181681/

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jun 25 2023 11:18 utc | 274

inflation in Switzerland is not significantly different from USA…………it is incomprehensible……..
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jun 25 2023 11:18 utc | 274

Consider “Shrinkflation”. The quality, if not the quantity, of goods and services has declined. Massively. Seco and the BFS are lying about the cost of living.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 25 2023 11:32 utc | 275