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June 6, 2023
Nova Kakhova Dam Breach – Updated (12:15 UTC)

Updated throughout (12:15 UTC)

A few hours ago an alleged explosion blew up the Nova Kakhova dam in Ukraine.


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It was either that or structural damage from previous strikes.

Geoff Brumfiel @gbrumfiel – 6:31 UTC · Jun 6, 2023

The dam was already under enormous strain and damaged.
Then things got worse. On 2 June, it looks like a road over the dam failed. That could be indicative of a larger structural failure.

In consequence the huge reservoir behind the dam is now flooding lower level land south of Kherson (Xepcoh). The pictures show the before and after of potential flooding due to the breach:



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Previously the Russian army had pulled back its troops from the northern part of Kherson oblast because a dam breach would endanger their supply route.

We do not know yet how much of the dam has been damaged. How much water will be flowing out of it depends on the part of the wall that is still standing below the current water level.

Of note is that the Ukraine had previously filled the upstream dams on the Dnieper to the brim to increase the potential damage. Those waters were released in early May. Notice the date of the following tweet.

ZOKA @200_zoka – 14:12 UTC · May 4, 2023

Water level in Kakhovka reservoir in Zaporozhye region risen by 17 m and almost reached critical level. Under threat of destruction of dam in Kamenka Dneprovskaya, dozens of villages may be flooded.
Kyiv opened the floodgates in Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye.
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The Ukrainian propagandists are claiming that the Russian blew up the dam. That is however unlikely.

On October 21 2022 Vasily Nebenzya, the Permanent Representative of Russia to the UN, sent a letter to the UN Secretary General about the plans of the Kiev regime to destroy the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station.

In a report about last years Kherson counteroffensive the Washington Post reported of Ukrainian plans and attempts to blow up the dam:

[Maj. Gen. Andriy] Kovalchuk considered flooding the river. The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages.

The test was a success, Kovalchuk said, but the step remained a last resort. He held off.

Destroying its own infrastructure is nothing new for Ukrainian servicemen. In April 2022 the New York Times already noted this:

What happened in Demydiv was not an outlier. Since the war’s early days, Ukraine has been swift and effective in wreaking havoc on its own territory, often by destroying infrastructure, as a way to foil a Russian army with superior numbers and weaponry.

Demydiv was flooded when troops opened a nearby dam and sent water surging into the countryside. Elsewhere in Ukraine, the military has, without hesitation, blown up bridges, bombed roads and disabled rail lines and airports. The goal has been to slow Russian advances, channel enemy troops into traps and force tank columns onto less favorable terrain.

Quoting the above Washington Post piece Andrew Korybko points to a possible motive for today's demolishing of the dam:

[Kovalchuk's] remark about how “the step remained a last resort” is pertinent to recall at present considering that the first phase of Kiev’s NATO-backed counteroffensive completely failed on Monday according to the Russian Ministry of Defense. Just like Ukraine launched its proxy invasion of Russia in late May to distract from its loss in the Battle of Artyomovsk, so too might does it seem to have gone through with Kovalchuk’s planned war crime to distract from this most recent embarrassment as well.

The most recent embarrassment was the failure of yesterday's attack near Novodarovka and Levadnoye. As the Russian Ministry of Defense noted in a special statement:

As a result of active and self-sacrificing actions of the Vostok Group of Forces, which displayed courage and heroism, the enemy has been stopped, and the set tasks haven’t been achieved. The AFU formations and military units suffered significant losses.

Total AFU losses in South Donetsk direction were over 1,500 Ukrainian servicemen, 28 tanks, including FRG-manufactured 8 Leopard tanks, three French-manufactured AMX-10 wheeled tanks, and 109 armoured fighting vehicles.

(I have seen pictures of the destroyed AMX-10 reconnaissance tanks but not yet of any destroyed Leopard.)

Interestingly the 'western' media, pressed into compliance by the Ukrainian government, were thanked for their pro-Ukrainian reporting on the issue around the time the dam was breached:

Michael Tracey @mtracey – 9:42 UTC · Jun 6, 2023

Top advisor of Zelensky thanks journalists in advance today for helping the Ukraine government win the "diplomatic and informational battle" around the bombing of the Nova Kakhovka dam. Helpful reminder of the state imperatives these journalists are expected to abide by Image

The attached image of the top advisor's Telegram post has a 3:03 timestamp.

The destruction of the dam is certainly not to Russia's favor. As the 'western' aligned Moscow Times noted six months ago (link corrected):

In a catastrophic scenario, destroying the dam could send a highly destructive flood wave down the Dnipro River, causing severe flooding in large areas of southern Ukraine. Backswell would also likely flood the Inhulets River, a tributary of the Dnipro.

However, terrain levels mean the flooding would likely be worse on the Russian-held left bank of the Dnipro, making a detonation of explosives on the dam an unlikely move for Moscow.

"[Destroying the dam] would mean Russia essentially blowing its own foot off,” military analyst Michael Kofman said on the War on the Rocks podcast last month.

“[It] would flood the Russian-controlled part of Kherson [region]… much more than the western part that Ukrainians are likely to liberate."

And the secondary effects of blowing the dam could be just as severe for Russia.

Lowering the river level behind the dam threatens both water supplies to Moscow-annexed Crimea and risks cutting off access to cooling water for the Russian-controlled nuclear power plant in Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia region.

Water from the dam was also used to irrigate the southern Kherson oblast. The lack of water will disable the power generation at the dam which supplied the south.

The flood is likely to dissipate in a week or two but that does not change the major damages to the parts that Russia claims as its own.

The water will then have destroyed Russian mine fields on the left bank (seen from the spring) of the river. This will open routes for Ukrainian troops to cross the river and to attack into the southern Kherson oblast towards Crimea. There have previously reports that the Ukraine received bridging and ferry equipment for exactly this purpose.

Comments

Posted by: Tapio | Jun 6 2023 12:41 utc | 100
In Berlin it is 1943………..Scholz has an unbelievably unpopular regime kept on power by the CDU………the Opposition wants to sleep with the Greens so is unwilling to upset them as they run the SPD into the ground………
Voters know what happened in Thuringen…………and Thuringen is going to blow up Merz if Sachsen does not do it first

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jun 6 2023 12:55 utc | 101

Just now, Alina Svitolina of Ukraine lost to Aryna Sabalenka of Belarus at Roland Garros. Svitolina, normal for all (neo)Nazi types, didn’t want to shake hands after the match.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 6 2023 12:56 utc | 102

It is hard to see what Ukraine hopes to achieve with this. The Russian fortifications could be flooded, but as the flooding recedes it won’t be the Ukrainians retaking that ground, it will be the Russians, who continue to have all their supplies on that side of the river, all their reserves already there, and every advantage of artillery, heavy equipment and surveillance. The Ukrainians will be failing whether they try to occupy the area while wet, or if they try to advance as it dries. If the Ukrainians wait for the Russians to retake the whole area, the entire gambit is wasted and the Russians will entrench themselves once again in mere days

Posted by: Clubofinfo | Jun 6 2023 12:56 utc | 103

marcjf | Jun 6 2023 12:34 utc | 98
The up coming Air Defender exercise is a worry as direct NATO intervention means WW3 so I very much hope wise heads prevail – though not much evidence of that recently.
RESPONSE: Hal Turner is saying that during the NATO Air Defender exercise would be an ideal time to start WWIII. I don’t buy into it. I think Russia will wait until they take the Donbas before they launch.
But for sure there is not much evidence that wise heads prevail in the West.

Posted by: young | Jun 6 2023 12:56 utc | 104

Ukraine is emerging as the winner again in the media narrative and the Twitter war

Hard to lose when the game is rigged in your favor.
I’ve said it before, winning the twitter wars doesn’t accomplish anything. Other than brainwashing your own Western populace.
That does keep the anti-war sentiment sidelined, which is what the neocon assholes want.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 6 2023 13:04 utc | 105

Means motive and opportunity
Russia has all three, after all its ukraine that wants to cross the river, yes?
Ukraine is actively attacking in force now it makes sense that Russia would want to stop additional attacks there. I’ve suspected Russia has too few troops there they depend on the river.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 6 2023 13:05 utc | 106

Dreizin report also has a take… general message seems that it has a lot to do with distraction from failed offensive – as Belgorod situ has to do with distraction from Bakhmut defense. Also scorched earth (looking at Great Britain).
https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/06/05/scorched-earth/

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 6 2023 13:06 utc | 107

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🌊 Destruction of #Kakhovskaya HPP – what is known as of 15:00 on 6 Jun 2023⚡️
▪️ Authorities in #Kherson region have announced preparations to evacuate residents of Novaya Kakhovka, Golaya Pristan and #Alyoshki districts. At the same time in Nova Kakhovka the water has already risen to a level of over 11 metres.
▪️ Rafael Grossi, head of the IAEA, said that the water level for cooling the #ZNPP is dropping, but there are alternative water reservoirs. At the same time, a spokesman for the NPP pointed out that the water level in the cooling pond has remained at the previous level of 16.67 metres.
▪️ Ukrainian authorities reported that 150 tons of machine oil were spilled into the #Dnieper River. At the same time at the meeting of the National Security and Defence Council of #Ukraine they discussed the possibility of up to 300 tons of oil getting into the river.
▪️ Ukrainian representatives have initiated a #UN Security Council meeting over the dam failure and called on G7 countries and the #EU to immediately consider imposing new sanctions on #Russia.
💬 Statements by Foreign Leaders
▪️ German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has called the disaster at the #Kakhovskaya HPP a “new dimension” to the conflict and said Berlin will continue to help #Ukraine.
▪️ #NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg pointed out that the destruction of the dam once again demonstrates the brutality of the conflict between #Russia and #Ukraine.
▪️ European Council President Charles Michel blamed #Russia for what happened and indicated that all those involved in the incident should be held accountable.
▪️ Similar rhetoric was also heard from Moldovan President Maia Sandu, Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis, Georgian President Salome Zurabishvili, Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipovsky and others.
📌 The Western leaders in their usual manner harshly accused #Russia of being behind the creation of the humanitarian disaster. They do not give any proof of their words, and they do not need any, when there is a new reason to criticise the Russian authorities. At the same time, they are clearly not going to recall the regular shelling of the #Kakhovskaya HPP by Ukrainian units and the tests by the AFU to destroy the dam.
📜 RYBAR; 6 Jun 2023, 15:01

https://t.me/sitreports/9814

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 13:12 utc | 108

Those poor ole Russkies: they fired on their own troops protecting the NPP, blew up their own pipeline under the sea, staged the attack on the Kremlin, and now this dam breaks. That home brewed vodka will do it everytime. War by curly, Mo and Larry. Where is Tom Lehrer when you need him.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Jun 6 2023 13:15 utc | 109

ZNPP Director Chernichuk spoke about the situation at the plant after the destruction of the dam in Nova Kakhovka
“The situation at the nuclear power plant is under control. Five blocks are in a cold state, block No. 5 is hot. There are no threats to the safety of the nuclear power plant, the situation is controlled by the personnel. Measures are being taken at the station to prevent possible consequences of the destruction of the dam,” Chernichuk said.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/67456

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 13:15 utc | 110

Posted by: jared | Jun 6 2023 12:19 utc | 91
I imagine, up above, Howard yelling out, “Who goofed, I got to know!”*
*Inspiration for this response from the Jim Healy Sports radio show @am710, 1980’s Los Angeles.

Posted by: Morongobill | Jun 6 2023 13:15 utc | 111

It looks like one of the videos claiming an explosion near the dam last night was fake.
A reader over at NakedCapitalism caught that while it was posted on twitter as evidence of last night, the date of the video was actually November 2022.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 6 2023 13:15 utc | 112

There’s a photo here: https://voenhronika.ru/001/00001/poduuuyrv_gehss.jpg from Voenhronika.ru which appears to show an aerial view of explosions at the dam.
Also from that website: https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/06_06_2023_srochnye_novosti_s_ukrainy_podryv_kakhovskoj_gehs_video_potopa_na_dnepre_karta_boevykh_dejstvij_bakhmut_berkhovka_soledar_20_video/60-1-0-14056 (via Firefox Translate add-on).

At 2 o’clock in the morning, enemy saboteurs blew up the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. Mayor of Novaya Kakhovka Leontyev said that the upper part of the hydroelectric power station was destroyed (11 out of 28 spans) as a result of a powerful explosion, but the dam itself was not destroyed. The water level after the destruction of the station rose 2.5 meters downstream.
If you pay attention to the map of potential flooding, then the left bank and islands will suffer first of all. Kherson will suffer, but not so much. Mine and explosive barriers, advanced positions and houses and farms located on the shore will suffer. Well, in the flood zone, the positions of Ukrainian formations on the islands on the left bank are also being flooded Dnipro-however, hardly anyone warned them about the planned explosion.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jun 6 2023 13:16 utc | 113

@b re update…..no amount of bridging equipment will help cross a flooded plane. If that is a Ukie tactic, they will need to wait for the water to recede then chose a narrow damp spot to cross ……ducks on the edge of a pond…..classic Brit tactic….get FUBARED, the cry for help.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 6 2023 13:18 utc | 114

I wrote yesterday: “The Ukrainians have likely planned more large terror attacks such as the one on the Kerch bridge. Their goal with this offensive is not to defeat the Russian military so much as to make the Russian people feel that the war is unwinnable. It’s likely that at least one or two of UA’s psyop attacks will succeed.”
Now the kherson dam has been destroyed. Expect the other shoe to drop soon. Perhaps the drone attacks on Moscow were just a test run. And we might see more of those drone boats.

Posted by: catdog | Jun 6 2023 13:28 utc | 115

Report on a statement by Dmitry Peskov at TASS: https://tass.com/defense/1628365

Ukraine commits sabotage at Kakhovka HPP, says Kremlin
MOSCOW, June 6. /TASS/. Ukraine has committed sabotage at the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (HPP), and this could have grave consequences for the region’s residents as well as the environment, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.
“The president receives reports through the Defense Ministry and other services on what is happening around the Kakhovka HPP. Here we can already say unequivocally that this is deliberate sabotage by the Ukrainian side,” the Kremlin spokesman told reporters.
According to Peskov, “this sabotage has the potential to cause very serious consequences for tens of thousands of the region’s residents, environmental consequences and consequences of another nature that are yet to be established.”
The Kremlin spokesman also called it unmistakable that one of the goals of this act of sabotage was to deprive Crimea of water. “The water level in the reservoir is dropping, hence, the water supply to the [North Crimean] canal is drastically reduced,” he added.
“Apparently, this sabotage is also due to the fact that, having launched large-scale offensive operations two days ago, the Ukrainian armed forces have been unable to achieve their aims. Their operations are stalled,” the spokesman said.
He pointed out that it was the prerogative of the Defense Ministry to comment on other details around this situation. “I cannot say anything further,” Peskov concluded.
Vladimir Saldo, Acting Governor of the Kherson Region, earlier reported that at night, the Ukrainian military delivered a strike on the Kakhovka HPP, presumably from an Olkha MLRS. The shelling destroyed the hydraulic valves that triggered an uncontrolled discharge of water. In Novaya Kakhovka, the water level has already exceeded 10 meters. There are currently 14 settlements in the flooded area, and a total of about 80 villages may be inundated. Residents of nearby settlements are being evacuated, though authorities have said no large-scale evacuations are necessary. The collapse of the plant’s dam has caused serious environmental damage. Agricultural fields along the Dnieper River have been washed away, and there is a risk that the North Crimean Canal will become shallow.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jun 6 2023 13:29 utc | 116

Was Russia wot dun it.
Er. oops.:

Russian MFA Spox Maria #Zakharova: On October 21, 2022, Russia’s Ambassador to the UN sent a letter to the UN Secretary General regarding Kiev regime’s plans to destroy the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric dam.
Here is a question for @antonioguterres : what has been done?

https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1666038487546560514

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 6 2023 13:31 utc | 117

“More Russian sloppiness. I mean in December of last year, the Ukrainians even TELEVISED their plans for the dam’s destruction. As someone pointed out earlier, if they knew they couldn’t prevent the HIMAR strikes on the dam, they should have begun slowly lowering the water level so that when the inevitable happened, the damage downstream wouldn’t have been nearly as catastrophic.
Morons.
Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2023 12:12 utc | 85”
UA controls the upstream dniper and therefore the water level.

Posted by: catdog | Jun 6 2023 13:31 utc | 118

My best guess is this was an unplanned failure of the dam due to previous insults.
There are too many negatives for both sides to be a deliberate, new act:
Ukraine:
+ Ruins plans for Ye Olde Counteroffensive. Now the river is too wide to cross, and any pluses of being able to send boats over flooded minefields are outweighed by having to divert resources to deal with the civil disaster. And as other posters have pointed out, once the river recedes, the mines will still be there.
+ Videos of UAF hastily abandoning islands in the Dneiper don’t indicate any sort of advance planning.
Russia:
It causes trouble for water supplies in Crimea, and allows the info warriors to run a campaign accusing them of more “war crimes, ecocide, etc.”

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 6 2023 13:31 utc | 119

Some VERY interesting videos at the web site of Simplicius The Thinker showing two sudden explosions on the shore line around the dam.
Looks for all the world like what you would see if floating naval mines impacted the shore as they bobbed their way towards the dam wall.
I seem to remember that there was some discussion last year that if the Ukrainians wanted to blow up the dam then that’s how they would do it, and it was that prospect more than any other that convinced the Russians to abandon the far bank and evacuate the troops to safety.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 6 2023 13:32 utc | 120

“It is hard to see what Ukraine hopes to achieve with this. The Russian fortifications could be flooded, but as the flooding recedes it won’t be the Ukrainians retaking that ground, it will be the Russians, who continue to have all their supplies on that side of the river, all their reserves already there, and every advantage of artillery, heavy equipment and surveillance. The Ukrainians will be failing whether they try to occupy the area while wet, or if they try to advance as it dries. If the Ukrainians wait for the Russians to retake the whole area, the entire gambit is wasted and the Russians will entrench themselves once again in mere days
Posted by: Clubofinfo | Jun 6 2023 12:56 utc | 103”
It makes sense if you understand that Ukraine will not attack across the lower dniper. They are cutting off Crimea’s water and causing additional chaos for the Russians to deal with at the same time the big offensive is happening.

Posted by: catdog | Jun 6 2023 13:34 utc | 121

“It is hard to see what Ukraine hopes to achieve with this. The Russian fortifications could be flooded, but as the flooding recedes it won’t be the Ukrainians retaking that ground, it will be the Russians, who continue to have all their supplies on that side of the river, all their reserves already there, and every advantage of artillery, heavy equipment and surveillance. The Ukrainians will be failing whether they try to occupy the area while wet, or if they try to advance as it dries. If the Ukrainians wait for the Russians to retake the whole area, the entire gambit is wasted and the Russians will entrench themselves once again in mere days
Posted by: Clubofinfo | Jun 6 2023 12:56 utc | 103”
It makes sense if you understand that Ukraine will not attack across the lower dniper. They are cutting off Crimea’s water and causing additional chaos for the Russians to deal with at the same time the big offensive is happening.

Posted by: catdog | Jun 6 2023 13:35 utc | 122

rumod:
Within three days, the Ukrainian regime launched a long-promised offensive on different sectors of the front, concentrating a large amount of equipment and manpower for this purpose.
On June 4, the forces of the 23rd and 31st mechanized brigades of the AFU attempted an offensive in five directions.
The enemy did not achieve success on any of them, suffered significant losses: 300 soldiers, 16 tanks, 26 armored combat vehicles, 14 cars.
On June 5, the Kiev regime attempted an offensive in seven directions by the forces of five brigades. It was stopped and suffered even more tangible losses: more than 1,600 servicemen, 28 tanks, including 8 Leopards and 3 AMX-10 wheeled tanks, 136 units of other military equipment, including 79 foreign ones.
The offensive attempts were thwarted, the enemy was stopped, Russian soldiers and officers showed courage and heroism in the battles.
The enemy did not achieve its goals, suffered significant and incomparable losses.
The units of the 433rd Motorized Rifle Regiment of the 127th Motorized Rifle Division, the 37th and 60th motorized rifle Brigades distinguished themselves the most in the battles, showing perseverance and fortitude.
Special heroism was shown by the 3rd company of the 37th Motorized Rifle Brigade under the command of Junior Lieutenant Yuri Yuryevich Zhelanov and the commander of the 1st battalion of the same brigade, Major Vladimir Vladimirovich Polozhentsev.
These units, being in the direction of the main strike, steadfastly defended their positions and inflicted significant losses on the superior forces of the 37th Marine Brigade of the enemy. Under the threat of encirclement, Junior Lieutenant Zhelanov, being wounded, took his company to pre-equipped defensive positions, where he successfully stopped the advancing enemy units.
It is especially necessary to note the skillful actions of our operational-tactical, assault and army aviation. They used 50 anti-tank guided missiles. As a result, 5 tanks and 29 other armored fighting vehicles were destroyed.
In just 3 days of fighting in all directions, the losses of the armed forces of Ukraine amounted to 3,715 servicemen, 52 tanks, 207 armored combat vehicles, 134 vehicles, 5 aircraft, 2 helicopters, 48 field artillery guns and 53 unmanned aerial vehicles.
Unfortunately, it was not without our losses. In total, 71 servicemen were killed and 210 were injured during the repulse of the enemy’s offensive in the Combined Group of Troops. Hit: 15 tanks, 9 infantry fighting vehicles, 2 cars and 9 guns.
◽️ Tonight, the Kiev regime committed another terrorist crime: the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power plant was blown up, which led to the flooding of significant territories. The purpose of these actions, according to available data, is as follows.
Having failed to achieve success in offensive actions, in order to strengthen its potential, the enemy intends to transfer units and equipment from the Kherson direction to the area of its offensive actions, thereby significantly weakening its positions in the Kherson direction. By the way, the enemy has begun to build defensive positions on the right bank of the Dnieper, which indicates his intention to go on the defensive here.
In order to prevent the offensive actions of the Russian army on this sector of the front, the Kiev regime carried out a sabotage, in fact, a terrorist act, which led to the flooding of significant territories and will have severe and long-term environmental consequences.
In addition, according to available data, the discharge of water from the Dnepropetrovsk HPP has been significantly increased, which leads to even greater flooding of territories.
This fact indicates a large-scale sabotage planned in advance by the Kiev regime.
Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Army General Sergei Shoigu.

Posted by: repost | Jun 6 2023 13:37 utc | 123

The ukronazis always destroy everything. It is their purpose. It is why the Ukraine was systematicaly converged and inverted into a regiment factory. It was Russia’s turn to be destroyed, the inbred bloodline families who control the west’s financial and economic systems decided it was time for Russia as a State be destroyed in order to have total control of Russia’s emmence resources. These same soecial inbred insane family bloodlines actually need to do this as they have stolen most of the wealth out if the West, it is a matter of maintaining the velocity of wealth transfer and strip mining natural deposits and sources of wealth or this cabal of insane bloodlines die, they mist have a flow of filthy lucre in order to maintain their hegemony, it is this basic and simple, the devil is in the details, (literally), details for example taking over such a prime piece if realestate as the Ukraine, it is the perfect platform for a regiment factory which is to be used to destroy Russia, also employ this regiment factory as defacto military machine which wears a skunsuit if legitimacy creating a cover for its expeditionary use in other places targeted for brutal takeover. It appears the Russian special bloodlines have not willingly gone along with this and put in place a bulwark, its military, to stop the ukronazi army from completing its prime objective. That being essentialy systematic genocide of every thing in its path, as destruction of everything it and it’s weapons can get to is pure genocide at its most destructive form, shirt of weapons of mass destruction. Though it is certainly arguable the ukronazi military is a weapon itself of mass destruction.
One things for sure the nazi plauge is looose in the world, it has spread thru the old world and it has jumped the ocean into America. See it is a tool, a very effective weapon, it was invented by the Ashkenazi, (ashke-nazi, nazi anyone? Fferris Beukker?), aka the name stealers of intiquity, aka the khazarian mafia, basically the special inbred bloodlines.
They are the ultimate in greed. They intend to rule planet earth, own it in fee simple. And anything in the way has to be destroyed or the means, ie, the flow of filthy lucre, enslavement of humanity, control of all economic activity, see the American civil war and its true purepose, and you see the Donbas Arc and its peoole who are courageous in their secession from tyranny, economic tyranny, and so the special inbred bloodlines had to point its regiment factory at these people, specifically, because they did what is the most agregeous crime of all to the bloodlines and that is seceeding from their power and control. Secession must be stompped out with the most exstreme prejiduce possible, by any and all means, as secession is the primary human right, it is natural law, and secession from tyranny is part of The First Law: Self Preservation. Secession is also a hughly contagious thing, where once it sets in it grows and those who secede grows dramatically as once one does secede in all actuality they are totally free, no longer part of the masses of slaves of the special inbred insane bloodlines. They fear secession like nothing else. They know just how mean good folks get when these most basic of natural codes and laws are violated. It is why there is so much policing in iur society, and shy it behaves and its actions now in our present time are like they are, they too are like the ukronazi military, but its one that permeates and is heavily dressed in a real thick skin-suiy of suppossed and definately taken for granted, expected legitimacy, of a force meant to protect the citizenry. Take too the surveillance all around us, from mass meta data to your neighborhood local gangstalkers reporting to the neo-stazi machine, as example the NSA and FBI, they have always been a surveillance and intelligence system for the special bloodlines, they too just wear the skin suit if State legitimacy, makes pissible the ability to hide and operate in plain sight. All this costs, the overhead is gargantuan, essential to power of the bloodlines, everything we see around us that is government is an illusion of legitimate activity of the state. It is controlled from behind, it is what ooerates along the fringes of the shadows, it is when it comes out if the shadows when things turn to violence, as violence really is all the power the insane inbred bloodlines have, alll anything corrupt power has. It is no mistake the West is been so ling such a civilized civilization. Long as it went along with the status-quo everything goes swimmingly for the bloodlines. Long as the flow of filthy lucre is maintained all is good. The slave classes recieve their tiny pittence of wealth they create. But something has gone very wrong, and this beast the bloodlines created to control the slaves has run into a problem it can not solve, its basically run out of money. No matter what else, something really remarkable is afoot, something not happened since King Soloman broke his contract with the power up above and let the deamons thru. Historical is an understatement of all time. It sure appears like this cabal of special bloodlines are flat out broke and running in its reserves, whatever it is that is the source of money as we know it no longer is allocating new wealth. What is circulating around the system is all thats left. Looks too like it is paramount this be hid from us, apoearences truly matter, right now its total Kubaki Theater operations. Something hapoened few years back, that has dissapeared all the old influence agents and political actors who monopolized the media complex. Where did they all go? Why so many body doubles? What hapoened to everyone we watched for generations telling us what and what not to believe, where did all the old hats who where permanant fixtures and names known all our lives, where did they all go? look at the recent G7 meeting, what a laughing stock of useless clowns. But the facade must go on. The Ukraine and its glorious counter offensive is a fart in a mitten, its become an act, theater, its all optics, bloody optics, but a ruse nonetheless. They pulled the plug on the Dnieper water system is truly the desperation of the bloodline elites efforts to maintain total absolute power. It exemplifies everything. As destruction is the last resort of dying elites and tyrants, if we can not have it nobody will. Its senseless on our end, like WTF dudes! But subversion undermining and destruction are the byword methods of path to power. And all there is, is power.
Everything. Everything we are told to believe is a lie. Yet, something is up something happened something has totally altered the underlying system of power thats ruled for centuries, something that seems good, a thing that has denied thise who rule their power, their blood, their blood money. I think great momentous events and things almost inconcieveble are in motion, things like we have never imagined, stuff that is good and right and beautiful but turmoil will be natural as it is ourselves everything we thought we knew and believed are totally altered, and something great and beautiful replces all the old things which controlled us all, is simply no more. Its where it is all heading. Can you feel it? Are you sensing something different today, like that gut sense that never betrays your conscious mind in its reliability, the subvonscious, even the Amygdala is involved, in trying to tell your conscious mind, telling you something?

Posted by: mtnforge | Jun 6 2023 13:41 utc | 124

Is it even realistic to blow up the dam? | Pravda UA – Oct. 20, 2022 |

Not only Ukraine’s Defence Intelligence chief but also the military and local authorities speak cautiously about the possibility of the destruction of such a huge reinforced concrete structure as the Kakhovka Dam.
In favour of its strength, the dam structure is still standing after several missile strikes on the Kakhovka Bridge, launched by Ukrainian forces [so as to make the Russian troops withdraw from the area – ed.], and the bridge is still being used by the occupiers.
[…]
Oleksii Danilov, Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine, has said that if the hydroelectric power station is blown up, Crimea could be left without water for 10-15 years, possibly forever.

The Russians have blown up the Dnieper dam at Zaporizhzhia, which feeds the Dneprostroi power plant, and have evacuated Dnepropetrovsk, the great industrial centre of Ukraine. Mr Lozovsky, the Soviet spokesman, told the press last night:
We blew up the Dnieper dam so as not to allow this first child of the Soviet five-year Plan to fall into the hands of Hitler’s bandits. All measures were taken so as not to permit the Germans to make use of the dam and machinery.

Posted by: Oui | Jun 6 2023 13:44 utc | 125

@ unimperator | Jun 6 2023 9:16 utc | 17
Britain has a long history of bombing infrastructure and committing terrorist attack and even nuclear terrorism inside Russia, Ukraine and Europe.
Number 617 Squadron is a Royal Air Force aircraft squadron, originally based at RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire and currently based at RAF Marham in Norfolk. It is commonly known as “The Dambusters”, for its actions during Operation Chastise against German dams during the Second World War.–wiki
And the US had a good time destroying the dams in North Korea, flooding agricultural fields and starving people.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 6 2023 13:44 utc | 126

The destruction of the Novaya Kakhovka dam would have come a lot—a lot—earlier, had the Russian army stayed in Kherson. Assess reality, not fantasy.
PS. The North-Crimean canal, supplying water to Crimea, is up the river from the dam, so it has not been affected. Stay calm.
Slavyangrad reports

Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Jun 6 2023 13:44 utc | 127

Elmagnostic @ 83
You can’t predict what crazy people will do.
Some cultures isolate and ostracize sociopaths. In the current West sociopathy seems to be a prerequisite for holding high office.
A dog’s obeyed in office. Call a dog a dog. I can’t tell you what human nature is or how the human psyche operates. I can recognize a foul cur.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 6 2023 13:44 utc | 128

Where was the last time the Brits ever fought a ground war in Europe and won it since the WW2? And, against the USSR or the RF?
So, one can imagine the ‘UK trained’, ‘US trained’ soldiers, or the US/UK war planning… 🙂

Posted by: ostro | Jun 6 2023 13:48 utc | 129

By the way, the whole of Ukraine was built by the Soviets, so it will never be handed over to the NATO Nazis.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 6 2023 13:50 utc | 130

@124 mtnforge
What your sensing is a combination of a few things
1. Global empire is trying to be formed, the US is close
2. The global fertility crisis is causing a mounting demographic crisis that has to be spread out over decades maybe centuries. It could be extinction.
3. Resource depletion
4. Technological decay – just getting started but once the above factors kick in more and more we’ll find ourselves struggling to maintain what we got before we lose it.
5. Democracy- most people are idiots and shouldn’t be allowed to weigh in on important decisions. It can only make things worse. We need families with ties to the past and future to lead us, not fly by night demagogues looting the treasury.
I know the future but no one believes me I should call myself Cassandra.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 6 2023 13:55 utc | 131

The destruction of the Kakhova dam is what happens when you fight an enemy on your in your own country. This is Russia, not Ukraine. The Russians may be waging a war of attrition against the Ukrainian army, but the Ukrainian army is waging a war of attrition against the land of Russia.
The Russian government has permitted the Ukrainian government to enlist ethnic Russian to fight against them, yes permitted. There is no evidence that the Russian government has ever initiated any effort to gain support of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. The Russian military kills them as readily as Azov.
There is no ethnic Russian partisan effort, none. Yet, Ukrainian has a Partisan force of self-proclaimed Russian patriots who have invaded pre-1991 Russian territory and still occupy it.
It’s getting increasingly questionable if the Russian military can achieve the surrender of the Ukrainian army. Thus, the demilitarization objective most likely will not be achieved. The Ukrainian AF will just keep retreating until they are safely positioned under the cover of a NATO AD and fighter humanitarian shield projected out from Poland and Romania,
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. Only one who knows the disastrous effects of a long war can realize the supreme importance of rapidity in bringing it to a close.” ~ Sun Tzu — This does not appear to be a lesson the Russia has incorporated into the SMO plan.
So it can be argued Russia politicians and military have committed to a generational war rather than a war of attrition.

Posted by: Jerr | Jun 6 2023 13:57 utc | 132

LOL Russia cant even protect a damn dam, they have zero preparation for this war and thus they are caught surprised everyday and no preparation against the ukrainian offensive no no. What did I tell you yes men here, you should have listened.

Posted by: Oanon | Jun 6 2023 13:58 utc | 133

Their goal with this offensive is not to defeat the Russian military
Posted by: catdog | Jun 6 2023 13:28 utc | 115
Exactly, and is what Ukr been doing since 2014. Sure, natoids and their msm like to present that 8 nato tanks and 3 old f16s will take Crimea, but that’s just for their own stupid population. They’re not actually looking to obtain a military defeat and for Russia to leave, they’re looking for regime change. And destruction of as much as possible. Russians should be happy if it’s only water. What if they use large amounts of DU or chemicals or radioactive material in the explosives to contaminate water and ground over large distances?

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 14:02 utc | 134

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Royal_Marine
Fluvial mines bigod!

Posted by: Squeeth | Jun 6 2023 14:07 utc | 135

Videos of what Rybar claims to be mines exploding in flooded areas: videos 1 and 2.

Posted by: S | Jun 6 2023 14:08 utc | 136

Excellent report b. Props, as usual.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 6 2023 14:09 utc | 137

Whatever side destroyed the damn did this so they can’t be flooded out later when they cross.

Posted by: OohCanada | Jun 6 2023 14:14 utc | 138

Kakhovka Power Plant Destruction Deliberate Sabotage by Ukraine – Kremlin
“The upper part of the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant in Russia’s Kherson Region was destroyed by shelling, the reservoir’s dam itself was not destroyed, Novaya Kakhovka city mayor Vladimir Leontyev told Sputnik.
A number of Telegram channels early on Tuesday reported that the plant was allegedly completely destroyed. Some published footage of the collapsed dam.
“There were several hits at two o’clock in the morning in the upper part of the hydroelectric power plant, where the flashboards are located, where the valves are, and it was destroyed. The dam was not destroyed, and this is very good,” Leontyev said.”
Sputnik

Posted by: repot | Jun 6 2023 14:19 utc | 139

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jun 6 2023 13:55 utc | 131
Good points. I will say, in response to some of your points:
1. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. China, Russia, and large chunks of the rest of the world are not going to play ball. That’s why we see days of endless neocon rage.
2. Yes, and it’s getting worse every year. Japan hit a new all-time low. COVID with its’ unknown long-term effects on the health of survivors, such as the spike protein causing brain damage, artery damage, and myocarditis, has accelerated the trend.
I won’t get into the jabs because it’s controversial, but it doesn’t really matter in the end – dead is dead.
Depopulation is likely if not certain by mid-century. This is the last hurrah of human population growth.
3,4,5 – cannot argue with any of these. Add in the likely collapse of the medical system in the US, Europe.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 6 2023 14:21 utc | 140

In continuation of the theme of the dam explosion, which provoked an international catastrophe, one thing can be said, our source painted this case on March 27 as a plan of the President’s Office.
We then pointed out that support for Ukraine fell in Western society, which was reflected in the further track of support for Ukraine. Many countries were inclined to freeze the conflict. The situation could only be corrected by a large-scale global man-made / biological disaster, which could be broadcast live to the whole world.
This is what we are seeing today in the case of floods due to a “breakthrough/explosion” at the Kakhovka dam in the Kherson region.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15542

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 14:24 utc | 141

Not sure if it was posted already, but washingtonpost wrote in december that ukraine conducted teststrikes with himars on the floodgates of this dam, making 3 holes:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/12/29/ukraine-offensive-kharkiv-kherson-donetsk/

Posted by: Hans23 | Jun 6 2023 14:27 utc | 142

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦👻 Regarding the comical Claims that it was the RF Armed Forces themselves who blew up the #Kakhovskaya HPP, then:⚡️
🔹1. During the war, the AFU repeatedly shelled the #Kakhovskaya HPP, including the collapsed fragments of the dam, causing direct damage with various types of MLRS.
🔹2. The AFU Command openly stated that it was shelling the #Kakhovskaya HPP for the purpose of destroying it and flooding the #Kherson region for military purposes.
🔹3. Ukrainian propaganda has been openly threatening for many months to destroy the #Kakhovskaya HPP in order to flood the left bank of the #Dnieper River and cut off the water supply to #Crimea. Previously, the terrorist regime in #Kiev had been implementing a water blockade of #Crimea for 7 years. Now these threats are being shamefully wiped off the internet.
🔹4. #Ukraine has purposely discharged water from the #Zaporozhye hydro-electric power station several times, leading to an increase in the water level in the Kakhovka reservoir. Particularly last autumn, when there was a lot of talk about the possible undermining of the #Kakhovskaya HPP, and literally on the eve of the destruction of the HPP on the night of June 6.
🔹5. Militarily, flooding will create more problems for the RF Armed Forces than for the AFU, because the RF Armed Forces will lose part of their defensive preposition and minefields, which will have to be created a second time around after the flooding.
🔹6. #Ukraine, amid the loss of #Artyomovsk and the failure of offensive attempts near the #Vremyevka ledge, urgently needed another “stir” to shift the focus away from recent military setbacks.
🔹7. #Russia will not benefit much from the destruction of the #Kakhovskaya HPP, because if the activity of SRGs on islands near #Kherson is hampered by flooding, the situation on the #Dnieper coast north of the #Kakhovskaya HPP may become more complicated, where the AFU may also launch attacks to support the offensive attempts at the #Zaporozhye offensive, especially if the goal is the capture of the #Zaporozhye NPP. All the more so since the enemy has previously made unsuccessful landing attempts near #Energodar to seize the #Zaporozhye NPP.
📌 In this case, we have motive, capabilities, proven facts of previous attacks on #Kakhovskaya HPP and documented confessions of criminals that they plan to commit an act of terrorism by destroying #Kakhovskaya HPP.
📜 Boris Rozhin; 6 Jun 2023, 15:35

https://t.me/sitreports/9821

Posted by: Down South | Jun 6 2023 14:27 utc | 143

Posted by: Jerr | Jun 6 2023 13:57 utc | 132
“In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. Only one who knows the disastrous effects of a long war can realize the supreme importance of rapidity in bringing it to a close.” ~ Sun Tzu
I respect the timeless wisdom and humanity of Sun Tzu. But I think the Viet Minh and Viet Cong, as well as the Taliban, have the perspective that prolonged warfare benefited them. Also Bashar al Assad; the war being prolonged made him look like a survivor.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jun 6 2023 14:28 utc | 144

106.
Pathetic rationale.
It’s unfortunate for the disinformation shills like the WaPo, NYT, CNN, theguardian etc that extensive documentary evidence exists of the Ukrainians striking this very dam for this very purpose, including in their own pages.
It may have failed due to swelling waters, but the proximate cause was damage inflicted by Ukrainian shelling using HIMARS.
In the unreal world of course it was the Russians, because propaganda. Russians also pissed in your cornflakes, dontchya know.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jun 6 2023 14:28 utc | 145

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jun 6 2023 14:28 utc | 144
you mean the US losing yet another proxy war made Assad look like a survivor. which he is. this reminds me of the New York Times plaint that wearing nazi regalia makes the neonozi Azov battalion types look nazi.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 6 2023 14:30 utc | 146

Posted by: mtnforge | Jun 6 2023 13:41 utc | 124
All the inbred bloodline families were either swept away or legislated to irrelevance in 1918.
Everything. Everything we are told to believe is a lie.
But you’re telling us to believe that everything is a lie.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jun 6 2023 14:31 utc | 147

131; 140;
i concur, what is going on in these interesting times, is much darker than so many manage to appreciate.
this SMO is just setting the stage, as did the “death by common cold” scenario etc., maybe it really is a simulation, it certainly beggars belief?
I’ve seen their future too, it aspires to be neotechnofeudal with a minimal slave population, all true.
To call us serfs implies healthy rustics, nothing could be further…
Bloemkamp, or whatever he’s called, had a disturbing short film ages ago, “Adam”, or something like that.
People really don’t comprehend what is coming.
Clown-world.
in the meantime, Z

Posted by: rubberheid | Jun 6 2023 14:32 utc | 148

the US got its ass kicked in Afghanistan. along with its poodles of preference the UK. what makes you think the Ukies blowing up their own dam is going to make a difference? losers backed by losers.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 6 2023 14:32 utc | 149

“In time, the Ukrainians would come to fathom that Zelensky is a Jew, and all that Jews did in the USSR/Ukraine was to exploit the Slav people. When time comes, the Slav Ukrainians would go against Zelensky, calling him a Jew. This is quite simple in Slav countries.
Posted by: ostro | Jun 6 2023 10:24 utc | 42”
Well, What in hell are they waiting for?

Posted by: Just Deplorable | Jun 6 2023 14:32 utc | 150

In 3 days of hostilities in all directions, the losses of the AFU amounted to 3715 military personnel, 52 tanks, 207 armored vehicles, 134 cars, 5 aircraft, 2 helicopters – Shoigu

Posted by: Derek Henry | Jun 6 2023 14:38 utc | 151

FALSE FLAG! 🇺🇦 FALSE FLAG! 🇺🇦
This is a well planned British false-flag operation. I opened Google Maps to see which side of the dam the flood gates are (or were) located. I see that the area downriver from the dam is covered with red warning dots with the text Nova Kakhovka dam collapse. All the dots are placed on the southern, Russian side of the river. If I click on the dots a side panel opens with this text.

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The riverbank to the north of the Dnieper is high ground, while to the south is lowlands. The flood will mainly affect the southern, Russian side, while the “Ukrainian” side to the north will be largely unaffected. Why would any civilian, if there happen to be any in these frontline areas, look for evacuation information from Ukrainian government sites? And worse yet, in Ukrainian? (“Ukrainians” will speak Ukrainian in public, but under stress or in panic they will switch to their native Russian.)
Google’s “helpful” disaster page serves no purpose. It creates an illusion that Country 404 exist and has control over something. Also, it promotes the lie that “Russia blew up the dam”. (Like they blew up Nord Stream.) It is thus a part of the false flag operation.
Ukraine and the UK want to invoke NATO Article 5. NATO wants Russia to go nuclear.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jun 6 2023 14:39 utc | 152

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jun 6 2023 14:28 utc | 144
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Origins-Hundred-Years-War/
https://www.militaer-wissen.de/thirty-years-war-30-years-war/?lang=en
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years%27_War
There you have a 30 Years War; an 80 Years War; and a 100 Years War – in Europe

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jun 6 2023 14:39 utc | 153

An honest question.
Why doesn’t Rus make water purification plants for Crimea? Well known and readily available technology. Many places around the world use them (especially islands). They could probably purchase some from Saudi’s, or engineer some for their own design.
Thoughts?

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jun 6 2023 14:39 utc | 154

Maybe the idea is to destroy all major infrastructure on the part of the Ukrainians (i.e. all the Soviet legacy major infrastructure), so that US can charges oodles of money for rebuilding it all, assuming the Ukrainians ever regain control over the lands in question. It’s also a way of punishing populations under Russian control that aren’t considered sufficiently loyal and/or its the Samson option, leave Ukraine in ruins so that the Russians are only in possession of devastation (such would seem a classic Kievan metropolitan mentality, that has no loyalty or respect for Russified people of the countryside).

Posted by: Ludovic | Jun 6 2023 14:40 utc | 155

Inkan1969 | Jun 6 2023 14:28 utc | 144
Yes, however, the Viet Minn, Viet Cong, and Taliban didn’t have any choice but to go slow following the principle below.
However, Russia does have a choice in how it conducts the SMO.
Also, where is the Russian equivalent of a Vietnam Cong or Taliban partisan effort operating behind the front in Ukraine proper??
“One need not destroy one’s enemy. One need only destroy his willingness to engage.” ~ Sun Tzu

Posted by: Jerr | Jun 6 2023 14:41 utc | 156

According to the Western war pig media Russia has….
1. Attacked their own pipelines
2. Blew up the Crimea Bridge
3. Attacked their own nuclear power plant
4. Attacked the Crimean bridge
5. Blew up their own dam
6. Attacked the Kremlin with drones
Guardian and Telegraph readers will believe it.. They think their taxes fund HM Treasury so they’ll believe anything. Actually believe there is such a thing as tax payers money.
Just read the comments section in either newspaper and you will see how dumb the UK electorate has become. Stockholm syndrome wrapped in Battered wife Syndrome doesn’t even begin to explain it.

Posted by: Derek Henry | Jun 6 2023 14:48 utc | 157

@Paul Greenwood
> Scholz has an unbelievably unpopular regime kept on power by the CDU
this isn’t about affairs of Germany’s political parties, rather Germany’s “deep state”: the Transatlantic Lobby that owns almost every top politician of any party, the Greens included. Just look who’s member in the “Transatlantic Bridge”.
Scholz isn’t member, and was the only one acting rational when the war started. And he got under heavy pressure by politicians of CDU and the Greens, with much support from the press (most publishers are member of Transatlantic Bridge, too).
While in a national crisis, you would rather restrain from personal attacks, just for respect and to not damage authority, Scholz was attacked in a way never seen before, even by “his” people in government, just for proceeding with caution.
Obviously the goal was to give him no time to overthink the situation and push him to statements that cannot be taken back without loosing face.
Finally the turning point was the meeting with Biden on Ramstein. He was changed after that.
I think he’s now trapped in the prison of narratives he had to build to justify all the shit he said & did under pressure, believing his own lies maybe. Not just him, tho.
In this house of glass, there is only one way – without shattering it to pieces/ resp. admitting that you’ve been a fool the whole time, that you fooled your people, and that you wasted thousands of Ukrainian lives … and this is what makes me afraid

Posted by: nobody | Jun 6 2023 14:51 utc | 158

hey stephanie – don’t read my posts! you are a real grammar nazi!
according to the west russia blew up the nordstream and they blew up the dam…. and i am supposed to believe this in spite of the twisted logic inherent in it…

Posted by: james | Jun 6 2023 15:00 utc | 159

Who is responsible for the Nova Kakhova Dam breach?
Let’s put it this way.
It’s highly likely that the same countries that staged the Nordstream 2 terrorist attack are guilty of perpetrating a similar terrorist attack on the Nova Kakhova Dam.
The finger of ultimate guilt is pointing at the Anglo Americans and Europeans, who are by far, the greatest terrorist nations on planet earth.

Posted by: ak74 | Jun 6 2023 15:03 utc | 160

Posted by: Jerr | Jun 6 2023 13:57 utc | 132
>In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. Only one who knows the disastrous effects of a long war can realize the supreme importance of rapidity in bringing it to a close.” ~ Sun Tzu — This does not appear to be a lesson the Russia has incorporated into the SMO plan.
Obviously, long war hurts both sides, but it usually hurts one side more, sometimes much more. If your choice is a fast war that you might win fast and painlessly but might also lose, versus a slow and painful war that you are guaranteed to win, then the latter is better. I’m sure Sun Tzu would agree.
USA/NATO originally wanted a fast Russian invasion followed by endless guerilla war precisely to attrit Russia. So fast war would be falling into USA/NATO trap. By flipping the table and choosing to go slow, it is USA/NATO which is in danger. People in neutral countries are catching on to what the USA is up to, and that is very bad for USA power.
Russia is not bleeding heavily from this war. Suppose 50K Russian military age (age 18-40) men die or are seriously maimed each year from this war. That’s not far from how many are killed/maimed by accidents, alcohol and drug abuse, homicide, suicide, etc. Money cost also sustainable. This is not costing Russia like WW2 or the Napoleonic war. More like the 19th century to solidify control of central Asia. It’s costly, but not ruinously costly, and there is no alternative.

Posted by: Revelo | Jun 6 2023 15:10 utc | 161

A dire appraisal of UA’s capabilities and chances by one of their American trainers:
https://warontherocks.com/2023/06/what-the-ukrainian-armed-forces-need-to-do-to-win/
One highlight:
“Ukraine special forces units comprised of international volunteers shop around their services to conventional unit commanders without a mission being tied to a strategic or operational goal. One example of a mission was a conventional brigade commander who had reported to his command that he had occupied a village taken from the Russians. When he realized that the information he had was mistaken and they had stopped short, he asked the international special operations forces unit to go into the occupied village and take a picture of a Ukrainian flag placed on top of a building in the center of the village. Special operations force units are quickly depleted, and replacements lack the training and experience to conduct true special operations force missions.”

Posted by: catdog | Jun 6 2023 15:10 utc | 162

Why doesn’t Rus make water purification plants for Crimea?
Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jun 6 2023 14:39 utc | 156
I don’t remember if they were in planning stage or already in construction before smo started, but it was work in progress. If you manage to search on TASS or other news agency, you should find older news about it.

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 15:11 utc | 163

from DW….
Germany’s Scholz says explosion consistent with Putin’s strategy
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said the attack on the Kakhovka dam is in line with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s strategy of escalating violence and targeting civilian infrastructure.
“For this reason, this is something that has a new dimension but which fits with the way in which Putin wages this war,” Scholz said in an interview with German broadcaster WDR.
He said this makes it all the more important for German to support Ukraine for as long as necessary. Moscow has blamed Ukrainian forces for the incident. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 6 2023 15:12 utc | 164

There are some People who actually believe Western voters will eventually come around and see the truth regarding Ukraine.
Absolutely no chance.
It’s been well over 40 years that they were told the following ” There is no such thing as state money, there is only tax payers money” and they still haven’t come around and seen the truth. The lie for what it is.
Zero, zip, nada, chance of them ever seeing the truth about Ukraine. A bag of spanners has more intelligence than voters.

Posted by: Derek Henry | Jun 6 2023 15:12 utc | 165

Keiv again shows its level of ‘concern’ for the people it supposedly wants to recover from Russia.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jun 6 2023 15:12 utc | 166

@ Derek Henry | Jun 6 2023 14:48 utc | 159
7. Shelled their own border villages.
Mostly forgotten now, but when the Ukrainians started shelling across the border and were still nervous about it, they claimed that the shelling of villages in Kursk and Belgorod was also a false flag. I recall quite clearly listening to a ludicrous “interception” released by the SBU claiming to be a Russian artilleryman looking for confirmation from his superior that he should indeed shell his own country.

Posted by: OnceWere | Jun 6 2023 15:14 utc | 167

Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Jun 6 2023 13:44 utc | 129 PS. “The North-Crimean canal, supplying water to Crimea, is up the river from the dam, so it has not been affected.”
The canal opening is upriver from the dam, this can be seen on Google Earth. The problem is the that water level up river from the dam will be lower since the dam is no longer holding much water back. This may well slow or entirely stop the water flow into the canal.

Posted by: Tim2 | Jun 6 2023 15:18 utc | 168

June 6 (Reuters) – A gaping hole punched in Ukraine’s Nova Kakhovka dam that unleashed a wall of floodwater means that the canal which has traditionally met most of Crimea’s water needs is receiving drastically less water, the Kremlin warned on Tuesday. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 6 2023 15:22 utc | 169

Posted by: Revelo | Jun 6 2023 15:10 utc | 164
The problem with a long war is that unexpected things happen. What happened to the dam last night is an example of that. This happened on Russian territory and will raise the costs to Russia enormously going forward.

Posted by: Tim2 | Jun 6 2023 15:22 utc | 170

Maybe someone else in the first 170 comments pointed this out already, but…
“Nova Kakhova dam in Ukraine” said b.
Nova Kakhova dam is in Kherson oblast, and is therefore now in Russia.

Posted by: Dalit | Jun 6 2023 15:23 utc | 171

RU MOD presented a military reason why Kakohvka dam was sabotaged (according to them, by AFU).

Having failed to succeed in the offensive operations, the enemy intends to redeploy the units and hardware from Kherson direction to its offensive area in order to strengthen its potential, significantly weakening its position in Kherson direction. The enemy has begun building defensive positions on the right bank of the Dnepr River, which indicates the intention to turn to defence there.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 6 2023 15:24 utc | 172

>> Russia still looks idiotic for allowing such a thing to happen. The Kiev regime should have been destroyed long ago. Why is Zelensky still alive? Why are Western politicians still traipsing in and out of Kiev with impunity? Why is there even any Ukraine left. If Putin doesn’t get off his ass, he is going to lose control of the political situation very rapidly. I imagine the mood on the Russian street today is quite foul.
~~
This is due to legal constraints of Special Military Operation; Russia is not officially at war with Ukraine. If that were the case, the Ukraine would already be a smoking pit. Western politicians are traipsing in and out of Kiev because they notify Putin first – who guarantees their safety. Putin is the only adult in the room here, the only actor who is acting with restraint, Thank God. The mood on the Russian street in not foul at all but patient and patriotic. They understand the existential struggle they face with the West.

Posted by: dreamerH | Jun 6 2023 15:24 utc | 173

So far Ye Olde Greate Springe Counteroffensive captured one village north of the main fortifications in Melitopol….which was recaptured by Russia today. No wonder the nazis are claiming they didn’t launch Ye Olde Greate Springe Counteroffensive yet.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jun 6 2023 15:28 utc | 174

This happened 2 am in the morning right ?
It clear from the massive synchronised response from the west, in just the several hours since, that this is all planned way in advance.
It is part and parcel of Ukraine’s offensive.
It is designed to give an excuse to involve NATO in the conflict.
It is designed to speed the joining of Ukraine into NATO.
This is going hot.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 6 2023 15:28 utc | 175

The compliance of western media, sheepishly following along with official lies of Ukrainian (NATO/USA) terrorists, once again shields the real war-criminals with impenetrable impunity. No matter what they do, no matter how obviously unlikely it might be to blame Russia, we see alleged adults in the position of reporters turning off their little grey cells, in obedience. This agnotological principle, of intentional or willing ignorance, is quite ominous for mankind’s near-term future, imho.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 6 2023 15:38 utc | 176

Both RF Baltic Fleet and Northern and Pacific Fleets are out on ‘drills’ and will be there until 15th June. I suppose people understands why they are out. No one really knows the whereabouts of the Russian submarine fleet (with nukes). Russia also have ‘drills’ in the air with the Chinese air force planes.
But, right now all we hear is this dam breakage. And, that the Ukraine would have to postpone the ‘counterattack’ in the south for months and postpone the ‘taking over’ Crimea. Fun?!

Posted by: ostro | Jun 6 2023 15:42 utc | 177

Posted by: The Dolphin | Jun 6 2023 10:12 utc | 38
There is a clear evidence that Russian speaking people are not their kind since 2014 when the judeonazis took power.
As for the dam:
1. Cui bono?
2. Who opened the dams up the river?
3. Who wants to attack the ZNPP?
4. It is a war crime: who is committing war crimes on a daily basis?
5. Who is using himars, which damaged the dam before?
The case about who did it is closed.
Now, wait for the next move: nuclear wastes, biological and chemical weapons. Even a false flag targeting Russian speaking of the UA.

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 6 2023 15:43 utc | 178

It’s probably time for Russia to finish the job on the Ukrainian power grid.

Posted by: Lex | Jun 6 2023 15:48 utc | 179

Who is responsible for the Nova Kakhova Dam breach?
Let’s put it this way.
It’s highly likely that the same countries that staged the Nordstream 2 terrorist attack are guilty of perpetrating a similar terrorist attack on the Nova Kakhova Dam.
The finger of ultimate guilt is pointing at the Anglo Americans and Europeans, who are by far, the greatest terrorist nations on planet earth.
Posted by: ak74 | Jun 6 2023 15:03 utc | 163
This is certainly one possibility. The dam structure was weakened by Ukrainian shelling and is now breached. This could have happened through natural deterioration to the point of failure or the failure could have been brought on by underwater explosives planted by experts in underwater explosives. We know that both the UK and USA have expertise in this area.
Some comments suggest that Ukraine could not have known about it in advance because some of their forces downstream had to hastily evacuate. I’m not persuaded by this argument as NATO and the Ukranian High Command have never shown any concern for their people, and therefore would not worry about alerting forces stationed downstream.
On balance I think it probable that the weakened dam was breached as a deliberate action by the Ukrainians, masterminded by, and executed by, either the US or UK.
The question is why? Many comments have tried to look at whether either the Russians or Ukrainians gain a net advantage in the military conflict. However, I would look at it from a different perspective, where Ukraine and NATO are fighting a PR war designed to weaken the Russian peoples’ cohesiveness and resolve. Those shaping this PR war have no illusions as to whether Ukraine can defeat Russia. They know this will not happen, but for them the end point will be a Russia in control of a destroyed land, and with massive social and economic problems. They would also see Russia facing a re-armed West which had used the spectre of Russia to stifle dissent and move to outright fascism.
Their scenarios are fantasies – cloud cookoo land – in virtually all respects. But, this is what makes their mindset so dangerous for the world.

Posted by: Marduk | Jun 6 2023 15:51 utc | 180

I should’ve posted this yesterday when the current thread wasn’t so active. In his address to the troops at Russia’s 201st Military Base in Dushanbe, Tajikistan, Lavrov escalates his rhetoric against the Outlaw US Empire in particular and the West in general. He directly accuses the Empire of supporting its Terrorist Foreign Legion within Central Asia as a destabilizing force. It’s all translated and ready to read here.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 6 2023 15:51 utc | 181

This is due to legal constraints of Special Military Operation
dreamerH | Jun 6 2023 15:24 utc | 176
Yes, smo, a strange invention. anti-terrorist operation should free all the legal issues of extending the involvement as much as needed, inside and outside Ukr, in search of terrorists. At least with economic measures, if not by force. The Ukr army is already a zombie. nato can always train some in EU bases or Al Tanf, with a government in exile or not, then bring them as “mercenaries” or “soldiers”, just like they do now. Less than 100 foreigners turned Belgorod upside-down, so a few thousands a month, with full nato surveillance and any weapon they please, is more than enough to blow up things everywhere, not only in Donbass or Crimea, also inside Russia, entering from nordic countries, which are already a collection of terrorists not only for Erdo. Or the entire “West” will say “we’re not part of it, we only support the brave Ukr army, they can attack anything they want”.

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 15:51 utc | 182

“From 09:00 to 10:00, the Nazis of the Armed Forces of Ukraine again shelled Novaya Kakhovka, despite the plight of the flooded people, the emergency services of the Kherson region reported.”

Posted by: rk | Jun 6 2023 15:54 utc | 183

Aleph_Null @ 180
Exactly as you say !
And where have we witnessed that dumbing down before ?
Why Ukraine of course.
A while ago I stateded that what we witnessed being done to the public in Ukraine will soon be done to us in the west.
“Ukraine is the template”
A hot war between NATO and Russia will enable our facist govenments to install draconian measures.
Conscription, yes our very own home grown cannon fodder.
Fear and acceptance in the general public (already there)
A witch hunt for none complaints.
And on and on.
Add to the list….

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 6 2023 15:54 utc | 184

Re: Posted by: Derek Henry | Jun 6 2023 14:38 utc | 153

In 3 days of hostilities in all directions, the losses of the AFU amounted to 3715 military personnel, 52 tanks, 207 armored vehicles, 134 cars, 5 aircraft, 2 helicopters – Shoigu

So you’re saying the Russians must be on the verge of an offensive then if they’re so thoroughly destroying the Ukrainian army? What are they waiting for?

Posted by: Julian | Jun 6 2023 15:54 utc | 185

“This is due to legal constraints of Special Military Operation”
dreamerH | Jun 6 2023 15:24 utc | 176
Is Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia now Russian territory or not? The SMO rules (legal constraints as you call them), apply only to Russian operation in what they define as Ukrainuan territories.
There are no constraints for military operations in Russia to protect life and property, that I have seen published. One would think Russia would be free to strike Ukraine anywhere they wanted, especially after the Belogod invasion. What country would unilaterally exclude actions to protect its homeland??

Posted by: Jerr008 | Jun 6 2023 15:55 utc | 186

First it was Russia shelling it’s own people in the Donbass. Then it was Russia blowing up it’s own money making machine pipeline. Then it was Russia attacking it’s own nuclear power plant the ZNPP. Now Russia is accused of blowing up their own dam.
See a pattern here? It would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic….

Posted by: JustAMaverick | Jun 6 2023 15:57 utc | 187

Re: Posted by: Ludovic | Jun 6 2023 14:40 utc | 157

Maybe the idea is to destroy all major infrastructure on the part of the Ukrainians (i.e. all the Soviet legacy major infrastructure), so that US can charges oodles of money for rebuilding it all, assuming the Ukrainians ever regain control over the lands in question. It’s also a way of punishing populations under Russian control that aren’t considered sufficiently loyal and/or its the Samson option, leave Ukraine in ruins so that the Russians are only in possession of devastation (such would seem a classic Kievan metropolitan mentality, that has no loyalty or respect for Russified people of the countryside).

Instead of allowing the infrastructure to be destroyed in the manner such described – why wouldn’t the Russians go on the offensive to win this conflict rather than remaining on the defensive for the last 12 months with the likes of Donetsk city being constantly shelled for 9+ years?
What are they waiting for exactly?

Posted by: Julian | Jun 6 2023 15:57 utc | 188

188
indeed, they have tested how material, amoral and entitled they can make a former soviet population, these then released as “refugees” into the already fubar narcisissim of the west.. all backed with massive MSM.. mmm, argh..
an ugly picture, those “feral” warlords of western collapse; they won’t even be indigenous..

Posted by: rubberheid | Jun 6 2023 16:00 utc | 189

from Yahoo…
UN chief says Ukraine dam burst ‘a consequence’ of Russia’s invasion
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – The United Nations does not have any independent information on how a Ukrainian dam burst, U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said on Tuesday, describing it as “another devastating consequence of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.”
“Attacks against civilians and critical civilian infrastructure must stop. We must act to ensure accountability and respect for international humanitarian law,” Guterres told reporters.
A torrent of water burst through a massive dam on the Dnipro River that separates Russian and Ukrainian forces in southern Ukraine, flooding a swathe of the war zone and forcing villagers to flee.
Ukraine and Russia have both asked the U.N. Security Council to meet to discuss the dam. Ukraine accused Russia of an “ecological and technological act of terrorism”, while Russia described it as an “act of sabotage carried out by Ukraine”, according to the requests seen by Reuters.
Guterres said it was a “monumental humanitarian, economic and ecological catastrophe.”
“At least 16,000 people have already lost their homes – with safe and clean drinking water supplies at risk for many thousands more,” he said, adding that the United Nations was coordinating with the Ukrainian government to send support including drinking water and water purification tablets. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 6 2023 16:03 utc | 190

reply to 179
Yes, we seem to be progressing from simple stupidity into outright delusion in the West. Ordinary people have no skin in the game, nor do they grasp how war impoverishes their nations. But that said, they do indeed sense that things are going wrong. They will vote out politicians who get blamed for inflation and job loss. After that, things change because they’re broke.
As to pointless wars, there will be progress. US spending on defense will fall to levels not seen for decades because they can’t keep up with inflation. Biden wants to give environmental groups veto power over defense contracts (Daily Caller today). Recruitment for the military is falling behind, 77% of young men are unfit to serve.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 6 2023 16:04 utc | 191

from Newsweek….
A picture taken in Crimea’s Kirovsky region on April 27, 2014, shows a view of the empty Northern Crimean Canal. Blocked by Ukraine after Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, invading Russian troops restarted the water supply there in 2022. But the collapse of the Nova Kakhovka dam may now threaten water flow to Crimea. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 6 2023 16:09 utc | 192

This is Scorched Earth tactics.
This latest exponent of heresy is goaded into an attack
Persuaded to charge at his enemy
Too late, he knows it is
Too late now to turn back, too soon by far to falter
The past sits uneasily at his rear
He’s walking right into the trap

It is a declaration of defeat by the regime.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 6 2023 16:11 utc | 193

“Obviously, long war hurts both sides, but it usually hurts one side more, sometimes much more.”
“Russia is not bleeding heavily from this war. ….. It’s costly, but not ruinously costly, and there is no alternative.”
Revelo | Jun 6 2023 15:10 utc | 164
This seems to be the prevailing perspective of many here on MOA.
However, as you say that a long war cuts both sides, and one perhaps more than the other; so too does time. Then the question becomes, “Has the window of opportunity for Russia to realize the demilitarization of the Ukrainian AF has closed because of their long war strategy?”

Posted by: Jerr | Jun 6 2023 16:12 utc | 194

Re: Posted by: Derek Henry | Jun 6 2023 14:38 utc | 153
In 3 days of hostilities in all directions, the losses of the AFU amounted to 3715 military personnel, 52 tanks, 207 armored vehicles, 134 cars, 5 aircraft, 2 helicopters – Shoigu
So you’re saying the Russians must be on the verge of an offensive then if they’re so thoroughly destroying the Ukrainian army? What are they waiting for?

Posted by: Julian | Jun 6 2023 15:54 utc | 189
I don’t see @Derek Henry saying “the Russians must be on the verge of an offensive”, how did you arrive at that misguided conclusion?

What are they waiting for exactly?

Posted by: Julian | Jun 6 2023 15:57 utc | 192
<sigh>
This has been covered innumerable times, not just on MoA but also at Andrei M’s blog and The Saker, as well as others I’ve forgotten. Your question is far from original, if you haven’t understood any of the answers previously discussed then you probably never will.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jun 6 2023 16:12 utc | 195

Posted by: Jerr | Jun 6 2023 14:41 utc | 158
A very stupid question.
The partisans are delivering information about what and when to strike. It is highly effective since the beginning of the SMO. A partisan war would be suicidal.

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 6 2023 16:13 utc | 196

By the way, Kakhowka dam is not Ukrainian, but Soviet. And, all that’s Soviet together with the external debts were inherited by the Russian Federation, not any other Soviet Union republics. In a way, even Kiev is not Ukrainian, but Russian.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 6 2023 16:18 utc | 197

Seems that unless the UAF has some brilliant plan to exploit the flooding downstream, this event will be used to distract from the emerging reality that Ye Olde Counteroffensive- the summer edition has ended badly.
As another poster pointed out, this does have the silver lining of taking a “known unknown” off the board.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 6 2023 16:18 utc | 198

Strange calling it ecocide or an ecological disaster when most true ecologists see dams as inherently anti-nature constructions, so destroying it, aside from dispersing pollutants into nature, is in an ecological sense restorative

Posted by: Peter b | Jun 6 2023 16:19 utc | 199

“Has the window of opportunity for Russia to realize the demilitarization of the Ukrainian AF has closed because of their long war strategy?”

Posted by: Jerr | Jun 6 2023 16:12 utc | 198
Reading the litany of the daily ‘clobber lists’ suggests the “window of opportunity” is still wide open.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Jun 6 2023 16:20 utc | 200