Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 10, 2023
“Let’s Try This Again!”

Yesterday I posted a picture of a Leopard 2A6 tank, 4 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, and a Soviet era mine clearing vehicle all caught up next to each other in a minefield. There is now also better video of that scene as well as others.


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For unknown reasons the Ukrainian command later decided to add five more Bradleys to the scrap exposition:

Military Advisor @miladvisor – 18:06 UTC · Jun 9, 2023

⚡️👇9x 🇺🇸M2 Bradley,🇩🇪Leopard 2A6, armoured recovery vehicle lost by Ukrainian forces.
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It is the same Leopard tank in the same position. I believe that the ‘armoured recovery vehicle’ @miladvisor mentions is an incorrect identification of the mine clearing vehicle that can also be seen in the previous picture.

All of those vehicles seem to have some mobility damage, i.e. they lost a track or two due to mine explosions. One of the added Bradleys seems to be on fire. Then its neighboring Bradley decides to also burn and explodes.


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Someone had sent half a company into a minefield where it was damaged and stopped. He then sent the second half of the company to the same place where it met the same fate.

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” (No, that is not an Einstein quote.)

Here is a first person view video from the Ukrainian side of what, I believe, is another group of four Bradleys in a minefield. Finally someone throws smoke grenades so some of the soldiers involved can be evacuated.

Simplicitus tries to put some rationality cover over the Ukrainian decision to attack the strongest defense position of the Russian forces:

This is all to say that Ukraine has almost no time left to make a big splash. They have no option apart from gaining one final big flashy triumph they can hail as a victory to be sold to their souring Western audience, whose support is slowly drying up, and who’s getting ready to throw in the towel.

And the only way for Ukraine to get such a huge and relatively ‘fast’ triumph is by severing the Crimean landbridge. It’s the only objective in the entire conflict where Ukraine can deal one big deathblow to Russia’s jugular in a very proportionately small amount of moves. No other possible combination of captures or assaults in Donbass can have such an effect.

I find that hard to accept. One attacks where one has the highest chance of success, not where some foreign political calender tells one to go. How that is then (over-)sold to the ‘western’ public is a completely different question.

Throughout the last night the 47th brigade of the Ukrainian armed forces tried to attack the Russian lines.The 47th is supposed to be elite, as it was trained and armed by NATO countries.

Two columns of the brigade were hit and stopped before they could reach the line of contact. What was then left to attack failed to break through.

Comments

jinn #1:28 utc | 293

The fundamental problem with these stories is that if the Bidens were involved in corrupt activities involving Burisma (and I don’t doubt that they were) why are we being continuously misled by these false stories?

Perhaps given Joe Biden’s corrupt practices back then, he is just as likely to be continuing them now. So too might Hunter. So therefore make dust in the air etc., so that no one now takes a close inspection of any link between current funding of the Ukraine government and reticulation tricks such as FTX or bio medical grants from the current Ukraine government.
The Ukraine prosecutor is not prevented from investigations or following the trail to corrupt sources outside the country or jurisdiction at all. Perhaps restrained from actual prosecuting but only a willingly blind prosecutor would drop the investigation because it crossed a national boundary. That approach is entirely BS. Investigators seek collaboration, rely on international treaties and reciprocal prosecutorial agreements etc.
The reason Shokin was attacked by the Bidens was because he did precisely that.
That is why the rules based international order is a deceit on justice.
Waiting for a US Grand Jury to get started on this. But not holding my breath 😉

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 11 2023 2:18 utc | 301

Posted by: jinn | Jun 11 2023 1:28 utc | 293
‘but an investigation of that will never see the light of day because this huge smokescreen and the deluge of false stories that mis-direct.’
I think you’ve probably just answered your own question.
The main reason though that there will be no prosecution is a thoroughly weaponised Department of Justice or Justus, as some are calling the obviously two-tiered system that replaced the original institution.

Posted by: Milites | Jun 11 2023 2:22 utc | 302

@ Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2023 1:42 utc | 296
They wouldn’t task a satellite specifically to look for Leopards, but if they see one in the course of surveillance they might specifically send a drone to hit it.
True, but it gets better. RF has pretty good terrain imaging and monitoring for some time now. It is also processed very fast. So a vision recognition library has been improved ever since. Today it can see tank, or a house or an object and categorize it in various overlays such as heat map, EM radiation map, fresh tracks, color differences within vegetation green. You name it – it is there. Mass of data being processed efficiently but hardware stays upgrade-able. Various combat models are simulated and derived out of those data, like target data for missiles with terrain way points and a target’s surroundings.
Also some AI added to it do automatize processes and handle secondary decisions.
In one way or another they do have pretty hi-res real-time overview 24/7/365.
What I understand from a current discussion it only gets better.

Posted by: whirlX | Jun 11 2023 2:25 utc | 303

The Countercurrents website has an article about a hero of the war against Nazism today.
Ot includes this prescient reminder of the nayure of Nazi/OUN rule over Uktaine:
“..Ukraine which was the breadbasket of the USSR became the breadbasket of the Third Reich, it’s grain mercilessly extorted to feed the very Nazis who murdered its people. Millions died of starvation as their rations were reduced to 420 calories a day.
“Entire units of SS were created, the infamous Einsatzgruppen, who could demolish” villages in no time. People would be dragged to pre-dug pits, forced to kneel to their knees and executed at close range via gunshot. They were undertaken with the support of local collaborators. In Ukraine, this meant OUN, UPA and various other Bandera affiliated fascists.
“Despite their post war efforts to project themselves as liberators, the OUN, the so called Galicians who despised the “Asiatics” that constituted most of Ukraine, actively participated in the extermination of Ukrainians…”
A reminder that the Holodomor myth/libel is a classic case of projection.
https://countercurrents.org/2023/06/in-memory-of-contribution-of-soviet-military-commander-sidor-kovpak/

Posted by: bevin | Jun 11 2023 2:37 utc | 304

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2023 0:34 utc | 276
Most tankers I knew would have taken a very dim view of an infantryman sullying their ‘workspace’.

Posted by: Milites | Jun 11 2023 2:39 utc | 305

announcement as part of trudeau and freelands trip to kiev.. once a nazi, always a nazi.
“The Canadian government has confirmed its plans to seize and transfer to Kiev an Antonov-124 transport aircraft, owned by Russia’s Volga-Dnepr air carrier. The announcement comes amid Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s surprise visit to Ukraine.”

Posted by: james | Jun 11 2023 2:41 utc | 306

Some videos for today.
Russian Lancet drone destroys advanced German-made Leopard 2A6 tank:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/IMG_4282_MOV:f
Kiev regime armored vehicles are getting obliterated near the DPR’s Artemovsk:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-06-10_13-00-21:0
Kiev regime infantry fighting vehicle took a hit and quickly abandoned its wounded comrades:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/BMP-Run:b
Two US-supplied “MaxxPros” getting barbecued on the Zaporozhye front:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-06-10_19-55-50:f
Footage showing Russian defenders beating off enemy assault on a small settlement in the DPR:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/novodonetskbattles2:c

Posted by: Nate | Jun 11 2023 2:47 utc | 307

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2023 1:13 utc | 288
You’ve signed off to the “Joe did nothing wrong” historical revision.
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No I have signed off on you and millions of other morons are helping cover up what Biden did wrong by promoting a fictional story that Joe Biden created
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There is no dispute that, as vice president and point man on U.S. policy towards Ukraine, Joe Biden caused the Ukrainian government to sack its lead prosecutor, Viktor Shokin.
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That’s hilarious…
Victor Shokin has testified to a court that he knew nothing about it till years later when he heard about Joe bragging about how he got Shokin fired.

Posted by: jinn | Jun 11 2023 2:48 utc | 308

Tom_Q_Collins @ 203
China may gain by helping Russia smash up nd weaken NATO and the Anglo Americans. They can then move in on the colonial structures the West maintains such as the World Bank, BIS, the IMF and many other structures set up to maintain a shadow colonialism since the end of WW ll.

Posted by: circumspect | Jun 11 2023 3:03 utc | 309

Posted by: La Bastille | Jun 10 2023 19:08 utc | 145

Not a no-fly zone.
Just air support to buffer zone west of Dniepr.
Kind of DMZ for the next 50 years.

My thesis is that a “no-fly zone” imposed by NATO would be a necessary, if not sufficient, condition for the above.
A supporting principle is that Russia still views the entire Ukraine as part of the “defensive belt” of Russia (this is historical) and their defensive strategies hinge on control of the region and ensuring it remains free of NATO (or in previous eras, European Armies).
What follows from these two principles is that Russia cannot allow any degree of control of the air space of Ukraine or it’s land by European armies if it’s security architecture is to remain intact.
It’s literally an existential trip-wire and not one of those soft “red lines” people keep talking about.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 11 2023 3:04 utc | 310

Posted by: jinn | Jun 11 2023 2:48 utc | 309
you want to try to explain how Shokin not knowing about it means it didn’t happen?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 11 2023 3:06 utc | 311

Posted by: whirlX | Jun 11 2023 2:25 utc | 304
Interesting points. Thanks.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2023 3:06 utc | 312

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 11 2023 3:04 utc | 311
Correct. Russia isn’t going to allow anyone into Ukraine who could cause trouble for them post-war.
The West is lucky Russia only wants to counter the NATO installations in Poland and Romania – not blow them out of existence (yet). That could change.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2023 3:08 utc | 313

jinn | Jun 11 2023 2:48 utc | 309
Joe didn’t *create* the account of the prosecutor being sacked on his demand.
He *confirmed* it. If you’d been playing along at home since 2014 with the Ukraine “project”, you’d know the rumours of why the prosecutor was sacked pre-dated Joe’s boastful admission by several years.
Victor Shokin has testified to a court that he knew nothing about it till years later when he heard about Joe bragging about how he got Shokin fired.
And? So they didn’t actually confirm to the guy digging into the Burisma rathole, that he’d been fired at the US VP request so as to protect his son and his own corruption.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2023 3:47 utc | 314

Sushi, English Outsider (on AM’s site) made me aware of your proposal to put together an analysis of the causes and early days of the SMO. In that comment he linked to a number of threads here on MoA where he, you and a number of others were discussing that issue.
I thought I could make a small contribution by gathering together those comments into a Word doc on Dropbox. I posted a link to that here and at AM’s site a week or so ago and have more or less kept it up-to-date with subsequent threads here at MoA (and one other comment from an interview with Zakharova). I also addressed a comment to you with this background info and the link.
Not sure if you saw that, or if that Word doc is of any use to you, but here’s the link.
P.S. Any progress on the proposal?

Posted by: Ingolf Eide | Jun 11 2023 3:53 utc | 315

Sushi,
Whoops . . . screwed up the link in 316.
Here’s the right one.

Posted by: Ingolf Eide | Jun 11 2023 3:58 utc | 316

russia has documented & submitted to the UN the dates, times & number of attacks on the dam. today russia has reported that the NPP has suffered a 100 attempted drone attacks in the last month. ukraine & empire, the instigators of this war, are losing. it’s highly probable that in desperation they will attempt to hit the NPP & believe they can convince the world russia did it. they have foreshadowed nuclear incident, ff, from the beginning of the smo. empire & its nazis are that stupid, that insane, that evil.
question: how can russia defend & protect the NPP?
thank you.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Jun 11 2023 4:18 utc | 317

Posted by: bevin | Jun 10 2023 20:30 utc | 185
It would help put matters in perspective if you identified the “Foreign Power” that CSIS is claiming interferes in Canadian elecyions.(sic)
I am not concerned with “Foreign Powers,” Austin Powers, or any other alien power. Foreign Powers will act in the service of their own interests as they wish. That is the realism of the world we inhabit. I used “alleged” in my original post as, despite all the outrage and hyperbole, the case remains not proven with regard to any alien power.
My concerns are threefold:
1) First, there is evidence the present Canadian government obtained political benefit from the alleged foreign interference. This evidence emerged in the course of Parliamentary debate and in Johnson’s testimony before a HoC committee.
2) Second, this entire matter derives from CSIS conduct. A branch of the state has sought to influence state policy by violating the secrecy act or whatever other humbug oath they profess to adhere to. This is totally unacceptable especially when it concerns “secret” information.
“Secrecy” is a canard which unduly impresses the public which gives overly great weight to revealed “secrets” when the secret may have no empirical validity at all. Any reliance on “secrets” totally undermines the fundamental principles of a democratic state operating under the rule of law. I therefore agree with you that CSIS is acting to subvert Canadian democracy and this needs to be addressed via a public inquiry.
1 and 2 are entwined together. The CSIS leakage may have occurred as CSIS is itself acting at the behest of a foreign power. You raise the CIA as the agency in question. An alternate possibility is the CSIS leak occurred because CSIS personnel were aware the Trudeau government was ignoring evidence of foreign intervention for the sole reason it enhanced Trudeau’s electoral prospects. Concern over Trudeau government complicity caused CSIS leaks placing the issue before the public. Which of these interpretations is correct needs to be determined by the public review of evidence before a judge empowered to act independent of the Trudeau government.
Finally, there is evidence that Johnson was not provided with access to all material evidence relevant to his mandate. The Trudeau government is alleged to have manipulated the review process to achieve a desired outcome favourable to Trudeau. Given my 50 years of interaction with the federal government I can provide evidence of repeated instances of the LPC repeatedly acting in exactly this way. One such instance resulted in the deaths of 84 people. Those 84 ghosts deserve a hearing.

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2023 4:28 utc | 318

I see a clear trigger point having been reached in the kenetic domain of this conflict.
Based upon the best *open source* info I’m aware of, the RF will continue degrading the NATO militarily, while simultaneously preparing methodically and intelligently for the eventual victory which is clearly inevitable.
The demonic psychopaths shall not prevail.
But wow….
It’s definitely going to be a brutal reset….

Posted by: Robert Hope | Jun 11 2023 4:35 utc | 319

I am praying for peace in Europe and this war to be deescalated soon.
-no more left to do-
Exept for a demonstration for peace, or against air defender.
e.g.
https://www.imi-online.de/2023/06/01/sonderseite-grossmanoever-air-defender-2023/
https://es-reicht-sachsen.blogspot.com/2023/03/tag-fur-friedne-und-freiheit-17juni-2023.html

Posted by: Johnny | Jun 11 2023 4:44 utc | 320

John Helmer, Dances With Bears, February 19th, 2015
THE HUNT FOR BURISMA – WHEN THE PACK OF HOUNDS IS MISSING ITS MASTER, THE FOX ESCAPES
https://johnhelmer.org/the-hunt-for-burisma-when-the-pack-of-hounds-is-missing-its-master-the-fox-escapes/

Burisma, an influential Ukrainian oil and gas company with disputed ownership involving Nikolai Zlochevsky and Igor Kolomoisky, is under criminal investigation in the UK.
But you wouldn’t know it from a release issued by the company on January 22.
According to Burisma, “Britain closed criminal proceedings against the assets of Nikolay Zlochevskyi [sic].
The case was closed after the Court analyzed the period from 2002 to December 2014 for alleged illegality of the source of funds of companies the ultimate beneficiary of which was Nikolay Zlochevskyi [sic] and ‘found no grounds for further consideration of the case’, said the Central Criminal Court of England and Wales decision.”
A statement issued yesterday by the Serious Fraud Office (SFO) in London, which initiated the criminal proceedings against Zlochevsky in April of 2014, said its investigation of Zlochevsky and Burisma is “ongoing”.
The SFO regrets, it added, that unexplained changes of position by the state prosecutor in Kiev led to last month’s court judgement.
“We are disappointed,” said the SFO spokesman, “we were not provided with the evidence by authorities in the Ukraine necessary to keep this restraint order in place. Our criminal investigation continues.”
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…Blake also ruled: “it is not known why the [Ukrainian] authorities subsequently changed their minds 27 days later, or whether fresh evidence has arisen…
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Blake’s ruling omits the name of Igor Kolomoisky; he has been identified in Ukrainian investigations and media reports as a stakeholder in Burisma. Kolomoisky runs the Privat Bank group and he is governor of Dniepropetrovsk region.
The attempt by the Ukrainian government to protect Zlochevsky and Burisma from UK charges of money laundering, and the British Government’s decision to continue the investigation of Burisma’s shareholders and their sources of cash, have not deterred the US Government from financing a role for Burisma in what the US Agency for International Development (USAID) calls its Ukrainian Municipal Energy Reform Project (MERP). According to a Burisma press release, the company and USAID have combined to “promot[e] energy security of our country.” USAID is spending $13.5 million on MERP; the locations selected for the programme in April of 2014 are all outside the areas of Lugansk and Donetsk where the civil war is most intense.
Lobbying for US Government support of Burisma are two Americans who were appointed to the Burisma board in 2014, just after the change of government in Kiev.
Hunter Biden is one of the sons of Vice President Joe Biden.
Devon Archer is a campaign advisor and family friend of Secretary of State John Kerry.
Biden and Archer work together in a group of investment vehicles known as Rosemont Capital Partners, Rosemont Seneca Advisors, Rosemont Realty, Rosemont Opportunities Fund, and Rosemont Solebury Capital Management. US Securities & Exchange Commission (SEC) filings indicate that together they are “pooled investment vehicles” linked to Christopher Heinz, managing director of the group (right), and the Heinz family fortune.
…. Heinz is Kerry’s stepson. His mother Teresa, who was married to Senator John Heinz until he was killed in a 1991 aircrash, controls several Heinz family wealth trusts, as does Kerry his own family trusts.
The two also share their investment wealth.
According to the SEC dossier, the Rosemont group appears to be funded by money from the Heinz and Kerry trusts; Biden and Archer are fund managers for the Secretary of State’s pocket……

THE HUNT FOR BURISMA, PART II — WHAT ROLE FOR IGOR KOLOMOISKY, WHAT LONDON MISSED, WHAT WASHINGTON DOESN’T WANT TO SEE
February 19th, 2015
https://johnhelmer.org/the-hunt-for-burisma-part-ii-what-role-for-igor-kolomoisky-what-london-missed-what-washington-doesnt-want-to-see/
The Blake judgement of January 21 reveals that the court is open to more evidence, but for the time being it isn’t too keen to understand what is happening in Kiev to cover up for Burisma.
The Ukrainian media are reporting that Prosecutor-General Vitaly Yarema was pushed out of office on February 11 because he has reopened the Burisma investigation, aiming not at Zlochevsky, but at Kolomoisky.
His dismissal, according to the uncorroborated reports, was Kolomoisky’s doing.
[[but soon to be revealed as Joe’s demand]].
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Privat Bank won’t answer questions on the relationship to Burisma, and neither will Burisma.
One explanation for the gap in the Blake judgement is that the evidence submitted to the court not only indicates that Zlochvesky kept bank accounts at BNP Paribas in London with the Burisma name; but also that he didn’t use them for Burisma’s gas business.
That, the company website suggests, was firmly under control of the two genuine directors on the Burisma board – Anzelika Pasenidou and Riginos Kharalambus.
These are genuine in the sense that the Americans on the board – David Apter, Devon Archer, and Hunter Biden — are not, because Pasenidou and Kharalambus directly represent the control shareholder.

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Jinn….. Many of us here have been following the Ukrainian sewer, and the U$ administration connections, for nudging a decade now.
We may, in your estimation, be “morons”…. but we are well-informed and observant morons.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2023 4:54 utc | 321

Thanks Melaleuca

Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jun 11 2023 5:07 utc | 322

Canada has confiscated a Russian airplane, and intends to give the Airplane to Ukraine. Doing so is attractive to a Canadian politician: you stand in the good graces of Washington, and you may get the vote of Ukrainians immigrants in Canada.
But nobody seems to think of the precedent this sets. When, in a few short years, it is Canadian airplanes that get confiscated and given as reparations – where do we stand then?

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 11 2023 5:17 utc | 323

B says ‘I find that hard to accept. One attacks where one has the highest chance of success, not where some foreign political calender tells one to go. How that is then (over-)sold to the ‘western’ public is a completely different question.”, in responding to a quote from Simplicius (not Simplicitus: https://simplicius76.substack.com/ ).
B is assuming that the Ukies have competent leadership. They don’t seem to be listening to western strategic advisors, other than British special operations, maybe for stuff organized by the SBU rather than the UAF (Belgorod). I’m still not certain Zeluzhney remains in charge. Apparently there is a video showing him still hale and hearty, but is it file footage? Caveat, I haven’t seen said video. Is he holding a newspaper proving the date? Not certain Syrsky is a brilliant military leader.
War is an extension of politics, as has been said. I suspect Zelensky is like a little Hitler, and is over-riding his more sensible generals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3jYCxB2how

Posted by: Ant. | Jun 11 2023 5:18 utc | 324

Sorry Sushi @319, but that is simply delusional.
The A#1 top-of-the-heap interferer in Canadian politics is the US of A. #2, whoever they are, are so far behind that they couldn’t see the US’ butts with the Webb Telescope. US interference here is so pervasive most don’t notice it, like the air. And NO ONE here refers to US interference when they say ‘interference’ – its just a stick to beat the chinese, dictated to Ottawa from Washington, which to my painful dismay they are acceding to.
What really sticks in my craw is that the same media whores who are pumping this faux interference trope are the same ones who were telling us just a decade ago that it was time to pivot to China ago inorder to ‘improve our economic prospects’. In 2014 the Conservative leader Harper sealed a huge deal with Chinese interests in basically secret, no debate, which tied future government’s hands. That included a promise of a pipeline from Alberta to the BC coast.
But now that the the US turned on China, once again the US is massively interfering in our internal affairs, and our presstitutes are bending over backwards to make it seem that some two bit players are the problem. Sickening.

Posted by: BP | Jun 11 2023 5:24 utc | 325

@Sushi
You are either very old, or your father was extremely lucky.
Cheers!
Posted by: Sushi | Jun 10 2023 20:13 utc | 177
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No, I am not very old. My father got injured by shrapnel in the battle of Kursk, some of which he still had at his 94th birthday.

Posted by: Manage without me | Jun 11 2023 5:37 utc | 326

these brigades only had a few brigades to train on these vehicles. they should have delayed this offensive to june 2024 to give them enough time, however it’s possible that the West isn’t certain Ukraine can survive until then.
Posted by: abel | Jun 10 2023 13:51 utc | 2

Biden and Sunak were just in the White House saying that they were going to support Ukraine for as long as it takes. At the same time they have pushed Ukraine into an offensive that they aren’t ready for. Either they actually aren’t ready to support Ukraine as long as it takes, or they feel that Ukraine won’t win with the amount of support they are actually willing to give.

Posted by: Simon | Jun 11 2023 5:38 utc | 327

Posted by: Ingolf Eide | Jun 11 2023 3:53 utc | 316
Still wading through source material.
The best point of origin for the conflict is Zbigniew Brzezinski who wrote in 1998 that “Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.”
SOURCE:
The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives
Brzezinski held the view that Ukraine was central to the maintenance of US hegemony. Control of Ukraine severed any potential linkage between the EU and Eurasia and ensured the continued vassilization of Europe. Michael Hudson makes a similar argument but while Brzezinski based his work on the geopolitical theories of Halford Mackinder:
Mackinder thought that whoever controlled Eastern Europe – the Heartland — would control the world. The idea was that whoever gained control of Eastern Europe, controlled the Heartland – also known as the Pivot Area — and whoever controlled the Heartland, could easily gain control of the World Island (Africa and Eurasia).
TLDR SOURCE:
https://www.albert.io/blog/heartland-theory-ap-human-geography-crash-course/
Hudson reframes the issue within the context of global financialization, the need to move away from the USD as world reserve currency and a shift from a self-serving hegemonic monopoly to a multipolar equity of opportunity.
Subsequent to Brzezinski, the US foreign policy community have basically endorsed and implemented the Brzezinski strategy which is a negative strategy of denial, exclusion, or crippling of Russia. Russia is the target; the UkroReich is simply an instrument to wield against Russia.
Hudson’s thesis is a more positive one of reciprocal benefit and respectful co-operation between state parties which each acknowledge the other’s differences but still find economic and cultural benefit in interaction.
Have just found a recent text which describes in detail the social-political context in the Donbass, the how and why of the rebel break with the UkroReich.
Some of the same ground is covered in Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov explaining Why Russia Invaded Ukraine At Raisina Dialogue 2023
https://youtu.be/nihwViCcUW4
Sorry if I am keeping anyone waiting. It is a fascinating area of study but it is easy to fall into an interesting mousehole and get lost for an extended period. Still beats watching war-porn.
Cheers!
PS thanks for the doc

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2023 6:04 utc | 328

Vremievsky ledge:

🇺🇦⚔️🇷🇺 Heavy battles are going on: the enemy continues to attack at the junction of the Zaporozhye Front and the DPR
▪️ The Armed Forces of Ukraine are attacking, trying to break through the defenses of the RF Armed Forces on the Vremevsky ledge and level the front.
▪️Heavy fighting is going on in the area of ​​Levadny and Novodonetsk. The enemy is throwing
Ukrainian military analysts, who previously maintained a “silence regime” on the counteroffensive, have already begun to write about this.
➖ “After the strongest artillery preparation, the fighting resumed in the direction of the burial mound of Storozhev’s Grave (near Neskuchny) and the village of Novodonetskoye.”
▪️The Armed Forces of Ukraine are really pressing here, sending armored vehicles and assault infantry to attack in dispersed groups in order to suffer heavy losses when covering columns, as in the past days.
➖ “Additional reserves and military aircraft have been deployed from the Russian side,” the enemy’s report says.
▪️Under Levadnoe, the enemy managed to advance earlier, ours counterattacked and partially regained the lost positions.
▪️The Armed Forces of Ukraine advanced in forest plantations near Levadnye and Novodaryevka.
▪️Our army aviation continues to work on the advancing forces: combat helicopters hunt for columns of enemy equipment.
▪️ Ours delivered a number of strikes at places of accumulation of reserves and bases of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of Ugledar, Velika Novoselovka, Zolotoy Niva and Shakhtyorskoye, on which the enemy relies to attack our defenses on the Vremevsky ledge from Novodonetsky to Levadny.
#source (https://t.me/RVvoenkor/47082)
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❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Vremievsky ledge
situation by the end of June 10, 2023
In the area of the Vremievsky ledge, the assault groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the 23rd and 31st Ombre, as well as the Marines of the 37th Marine Brigade, resumed attacks on Russian positions. On the right flank, the enemy infantry landed in a forest belt and was able to advance to Urozhainoye.
Now the fighting is going on near the village. At the same time, the formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to reach the approaches to Novodonetsk , but fighters on the front line and artillerymen are successfully operating in this area, preventing the Armed Forces of Ukraine from approaching the village.
At the same time, on the ledge itself, Ukrainian units occupied Neskuchnoye and Blagodatnoye almost without a fight – the servicemen of the Kaskad OBTF retreated to more advantageous positions due to the threat of being surrounded.
Also, enemy attacks in small groups were noted on the left flank at the Novodarovka-Rovnopol line. Judging by the almost synchronous attack on Urozhaynoye and from Bolshaya Novoselka , the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to wedge into the rear of the Russian group on the Vremievsky ledge.
At the same time, against the background of attacks in this area, the activity of Ukrainian artillery in the Zaporozhye direction increased, and an armored fist is concentrated near Malaya Tokmachka . This indirectly indicates preparations for the next night attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine south of Orekhov .

If one looked at the map, it was obvious what might occur. AFU may be able to enter the ledge from the SE corner, west of Novodonetske, causing a pullback. If they can do that they would obviously try to reinforce with without having to worry too much about a counter-attack north of Neskuchnoe. But this is probably not “critical” the same way the Tokmak-Orekhov area.
Meanwhile some waves moderate-heavy rains are expected to occur in Orekhov region beginning Sunday evening. They say it will be mud but not sure, we’ll see.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 11 2023 6:09 utc | 329

Posted by: Manage without me | Jun 11 2023 5:37 utc | 327
You and your father are doubly lucky!
First luck came in the location of the injury.
Second luck came in the location of the injury.
Long may you and he prosper.

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2023 6:12 utc | 330

From Yuri Podolyak
Fighting in the Zaporozhye direction – the situation at 06.00 – 11.06.23
Last night was the first in four days when the enemy did not advance on the positions of the 291st regiment south of Orekhovo. It is obvious that the forces of the 47th Mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not endless, and the almost complete knockout of the American M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles over the previous days and tangible losses in its tank battalion make further breakthroughs without the involvement of additional forces impossible.
That is why attacks were made yesterday a little to the west, through Malye Shcherbaki. But in view of the fact that the terrain there is more rugged, the attack was carried out by infantry, which was brought to the place in light armored vehicles. All this was read by ours and, as usual, the enemy did not even have time to engage in battle and rolled back.
More serious was the reconnaissance of our forces in the region of Velikaya Novoselka (much east of Orekhov). Here the enemy tried to pass by a flying detachment to the settlement. Harvest and probed our forces in the direction of Ravnopolya and Neskuchnoe.
To understand the “geography of the fighting” and why both sides are doing what they are doing, I provide a relief map of the area (Map 2).
The raid on Urozhaynoye, about which, as a breakthrough, they wrote, incl. and some of our bloggers, is not a breakthrough.
The fact is that to the north of this settlement. we don’t have positions. And any passage of the enemy between the heights to the settlement is doomed to heavy losses, since the broken column is shot not only by artillery, but also by ATGMs, moreover, from two sides at once. Therefore, this “strike” from a tactical point of view is practically meaningless.
It is also clear from the map why our units, as soon as the turmoil begins here, leave the settlement. It is located deep in the lowlands, and therefore there is only military guards, which always go to the heights with the start of the battle, where everything is decided.
And now to the situation and briefly. We were not driven out of the heights that night, and the raid on Urozhaynoye turned out to be pointless.
Well, the most important question – where the enemy suffered the main blow at the end of the night, remained open. He did not introduce large forces that would allow this to be determined.
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1667777234227134465

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 11 2023 6:24 utc | 331

The neighbors also had an attempt to break through, they went there to correct it. The bastards approached our positions at 100 meters. Can you imagine 12 hours of combat? Three hours of artillery preparation, when you simply cannot raise your head. The night was fun. But, thank God, they survived. Not without loss. But we also burned six of their cars. Three “Bradley”, “Leopard” did the second. Two more minesweepers were going – theirs too. Those who were blown up by a mine were already finished off with ATGMs. Now it’s not a rod, they’re firing harassing artillery, they will regroup and they’ll probably go again. Pull, the Germans (as our soldiers call the enemy on the front end), reserves.

This is why the Russian can win…and their morale is high…because they are fighting the Nazis. The RF frontline soldiers calls the enemy Germans…they don’t see Ukrainians, but German Nazis…anyone from the west side attacking them are Nazis…If their grandads, grandmoms won against the Nazis, why not they too…

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 6:45 utc | 332

You can read the rest here, https://www.kp.ru/daily/27514/4776915/

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 6:48 utc | 333

Sushi | Jun 11 2023 6:04 utc | 329
You’re doing good work. Please continue. Maybe publish at substack when you’re ready?
Substack increasingly “the place” to store info, and shareable.
Re Brzeziński. His “Ukraine, the testicles of Russia… grab Ukraine and you have Russia by the balls” theory was (perhaps) valid for the 90s.
But now Turkiye and Iran negate the value of Ukraine IMO.
There’s a reason the *original* OBOR was the “new Silk Road”, intending to link China and Persia… a trade route almost as old as humanity.
Ukraine *could* have been an important gateway in the BRI / BRICS, but it’s been bypassed now.
Turkiye is the real global pivot point by virtue of its geography. Always has been.
The Bosphorus. Constantinople. They’ve been the choke point/ crossroads of the world since before written records…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2023 6:59 utc | 334

It looks like the Nazis had lost about 5000 soldiers in the ‘counteroffensive’ other than the NATO/Nazi ‘cats’

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 7:06 utc | 335

Point of clarification
Russian Peacekeepers were invited by the internationally recognized republics of DPR/LPR ( UNSCR 2202) to prevent the ethnic cleansing of 10 million people.

Posted by: Exile | Jun 11 2023 7:18 utc | 336

Perimetr | Jun 10 2023 20:30 utc | 184
We have each warned many times about the dangers of Nuclear Winter at this and other forums. I am afraid that the US is approaching a use-it-or-lose-it decision as Russia is rapidly improving its missile defense system and the US tritium supply is diminishing. I hope that the collective West can be let down slowly as Putin is attempting with the go-slow approach to the economic and political collapse of the NATO countries. Putin’s massive defense in depth echoes the daimyō Takeda Shingen Mountain approach to war in the movie Kagemusha https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080979/
With the massive NATO and Russian Baltic naval exercises and the NATO air war exercises things could go downhill fast. I suspect that Zelensky is sacrificing the Ukraine army to force NATO to go in to freeze the conflict as was done in Syria. Otherwise, Russia takes the Black Sea coast up to Transnistria. Furthermore, Western Europe cannot adsorb another 6-12 million Bandera worshipers while suffering massive energy supply issues.

Posted by: krollchem | Jun 11 2023 7:20 utc | 337

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 6:45 utc | 333
“The RF frontline soldiers calls the enemy Germans…they don’t see Ukrainians, but German Nazis…anyone from the west side attacking them are Nazis…If their grandads, grandmoms won against the Nazis, why not they too…”
Yes, indeed, this is an excellent motivational trick to keep morale high. Not even a trick – for Russia, this is a real reenactment of WWII.
The morons in the West talk about “bad Russian army morale”. Poor fools won’t know what hit them.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2023 7:22 utc | 338

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For unknown reasons the Ukrainian command later decided to add five more Bradleys to the scrap exposition:
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Perhaps they prefer odd numbers?

Posted by: Grey Cloud | Jun 11 2023 7:39 utc | 339

Posted by: krollchem | Jun 11 2023 7:20 utc | 338
The only NATO exercise in the Baltic is BALTOPS 23, which is already running as of June 4th and will end June 16th. So unless there’s an incident between NATO and Russian ships currently in the area, it’s unlikely anything will happen. Since Russia will keep its distance, we can assume that NATO would have to unilaterally attack or try to ram a Russian vessel. Not too likely.
The rest are going nowhere:
Arctic Challenge ended June 9th.
Defender Europe ends today the 11th.
ANAKONDA 23 in Poland ends the 16th.
SEA BREEZE 23 ends the 14th.
So running out of time for using any of these as cover for anything.
And the boogey-man Air Defender 23 that everyone is crazed about runs from the 12th to the 23rd. It is mostly entirely inside Germany and is in fact under the command of the German Air Force, which is the country that planned it since 2018.
As I pointed out before:

The role of Germany as the collective defense hub means most of the locations from which exercises will be performed are located within its territory, with a few exceptions, as the list below shows:
Jagel/Hohn in Schleswig-Holstein (Germany)
Laage in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania (Germany)
Wunstorf in Lower Saxony (Germany)
Lechfeld in Bavaria (Germany)
Spangdahlem in Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany)
Volkel in the Netherlands
Čáslav in the Czech Republic
Three of these seven exercise locations will be crucial: the airfields in Schleswig/Hohn, Wunstorf, and Lechfeld in Germany. This means Germany will be responsible for three main flight areas above its borders.

The shortest distance (air line) between Bavaria and Ukraine is 928.58 miles.
In other words, zero threat to Russia – as I have repeatedly demonstrated to deaf ears here.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2023 7:41 utc | 340

@Richard Steven Hack | Jun 10 2023 22:50 utc | 247

Just looked up some info on satellite resolution. It appears that 10cm is no problem. That’s 4 inches. Including compensation for atmospherics.

Detecting and resolving are two different things. You can detect high contrast signals without fully resolving them. I have done amateur astronomy imaging under our poor atmospheric conditions, and have managed to detect (but not fully resolve) craters on the Moon with diameters less than 2 km on the floor of the larger Plato crater. That’s detecting about 1 second of arc object. You can improve such results by a using stacking techniques.
Detecting a high contrast square on the turret should be possible, especially since the whole tank can be seen and used to verify the smaller high contrast square.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2023 7:46 utc | 341

Russia and the Russians are not against Ukraine, which is apart of their country and people, but are against the Nazis. Their grandpas, grandmoms fought and saved the country from the Nazis 76 years ago, not to handover those liberated lands to the Nazis today. The SMO will conclude once the Ukraine is liberated from the Nazis. Demilitarise and denazify the Ukraine was the original idea, now it is extended to demilitarise and denazify the NATO too. This SMO won’t stop until then, I’m afraid.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 7:49 utc | 342

No, F16s will not join the fray. Pay attention.
No, NATO will not put boots on ground.
No, there will be no nukes. (Calm down and have a nice cup of tea, ffs!)
Yes, there will be other provocations, just when, where, why, what and how?
Russia failure to “bite” means no justification in sending in “peacekeepers” and partitioning Korean style, is out of the question.

Posted by: Suresh | Jun 11 2023 7:51 utc | 343

Nato flag is a swastika.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 11 2023 7:54 utc | 344

Here’s an interesting article I just found about Air Defender 23:
Air Defender 23 doesn’t show NATO’s strength but rather its US dependency
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/air-defender-23-doesnt-show-natos-strength-but-rather-its-us-dependency

Germany noted that out of the 250 aircraft to be involved, “100 of these aircraft alone come from [the U.S.]”…. That infographic tells the tale. It shows that the U.S. is the only nation providing electronic warfare, refueling, dedicated air-to-ground, and fifth-generation aircraft. It shows the U.S. is also deploying Navy and Air Force aircraft. It shows that for all his rhetoric on European solidarity and the need for “strategic autonomy,” French President Emmanuel Macron is only sending one or more surveillance aircraft and perhaps a radar warning aircraft to help defend Germany from this hypothetical attack.

The article is basically complaining, like Trump did, that the EU countries aren’t spending enough on defense. But basically what the quote shows that despite all the alleged countries “participating”, it is the US that is supplying fifty percent of the aircraft. Doesn’t really make NATO particularly threatening.
Another article contained this interesting quote from a German general:

“We are showing that NATO territory is our red line, that we are prepared to defend every centimetre of this territory,” said Lieutenant General Ingo Gerhartz of the German Air Force, which is coordinating the exercise. “But we won’t, for example, conduct any flights toward Kaliningrad. So this is intended to be defensive.”
Kaliningrad is a Russian exclave located on the Baltic Sea between Poland and Lithuania.

So they’re so scared of Russia they won’t even approach Kaliningrad! And you people think they’re going to unilaterally load up on refueling planes, fly 1,000 miles to western Ukraine (still less, eastern Ukraine or Crimea), do…something (like firing off a few missiles which will be shot down by Russian AD), manage to evade Russian AD and the Russian Air Force so they aren’t shot down, all just to start WWIII.
Right. Next topic, please. This one is bullshit.
But no, today someone will roll in on the Sunday thread and say “what about those NATO air exercises?”, “we should be concerned about those NATO exercises”… blah, blah, blah…

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2023 8:02 utc | 345

@Konami | Jun 10 2023 23:13 utc | 249

Not many people have emphasized how the neocons have made the same mistake as Hitler regarding Russia/Soviet Union: “You only have to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down.” Not the only resemblance, either, is it?

The hubris may be similar but the methods are so different. Not related to the rest but I’ve been looking for the German original for some time now. Can you or someone point me to it?

Im Kessel von Stalingrad: Der Krieg am Wendepunkt
„Sie müssen nur die Tür einschlagen, dann wird die ganze verrottete Struktur zusammenbrechen“ – Hitler, Juni 1941

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2023 8:04 utc | 346

340 – Perhaps the commander wants to prove he has been trying…

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 11 2023 8:04 utc | 347

@circumspect | Jun 10 2023 23:21 utc | 255

Look at the black band on the casing and you get a short glimpse of the tip of the round. Looks like a British DU tank round.

I had the same question when I saw that clip, but didn’t post it. Good thing they took out the Leopards before they could fire a single shot then.
That means the Khmelnitsky hit did not take out all the DU shells.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2023 8:09 utc | 348

@Melaleuca | Jun 11 2023 0:34 utc | 276
Pro-Ukrainian Chechens? It gets complicated. Why would they post a video of a Leopard?

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2023 8:17 utc | 349

Simon # 5:38 utc | 328

Biden and Sunak were just in the White House saying that they were going to support Ukraine for as long as it takes. At the same time they have pushed Ukraine into an offensive that they aren’t ready for. Either they actually aren’t ready to support Ukraine as long as it takes, or they feel that Ukraine won’t win with the amount of support they are actually willing to give.

They have to be finished with Ukraine mighty fast as they are EVEN MORE obsessed with going after China. Two simultaneous wars with nuclear opponents is entirely incompatible with the UKUSA need to maintain effective propaganda dominance of their states and the states of their vassals.
The mass formation paradigm will fracture and no doubt their forecasts have told them so. It takes a persistent moderate fear threshold to succeed with mass formation but to then set up an immense fear reality by opposing two nuclear states that are absolute allies will release the mesmerised masses.
Right now UKUSA are waist deep in the Ukraine big muddy of their own making and there seems no fast exit. Other than Ukraine capitulating. I am fairly sure that RU & China are savouring the big muddy dilemma and are in no rush to solve it and have every need to make it more acute and painful.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 11 2023 8:17 utc | 350

So they’re so scared of Russia they won’t even approach Kaliningrad!
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2023 8:02 utc | 346
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There’s certain matter of F-35s electronics going haywire when nearing the Russian border, so maybe they don’t want their planes to fall off the sky without seeing a missile coming at them. 🙂

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 8:17 utc | 351

The Times They Are A-Changin’
WRITTEN BY: BOB DYLAN
“Come gather ’round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You’ll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’ or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’
Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon
For the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who that it’s namin’
For the loser now will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’
Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside and it is ragin’
It’ll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’
Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
Anhd don’t criticize
What you can’t understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is rapidly agin
Please get out of the new one if you can’t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin’
The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is rapidly fadin’
And the first one now will later be last
For the times they are a-changin’

Posted by: Mark Gaugham | Jun 11 2023 8:23 utc | 352

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 6:45 utc | 333
The last 100m is the crucial deciding point of any attack. The infantry have to be well motivated and or well led to be able to expose themselves and cross the distance and doubly so to close with and destroy the enemy. Often, attacking units will stop within this range band and engage in indirect fire by throwing grenades and suppressive fire, waiting for someone or something to break the deadlock (the real force multiplier of the WW1 tank). This piece of ground is where the medals are won and where operations often succeed or founder.
Ironically, once the troops have covered those last few metres, only the most fanatical or desperate defenders will continue effective resistance; therefore, by attacking they can end their immediate ordeal, but to go those last few metres is to battle against the ‘hind-brain’ and tens of thousands of years of evolution. War is an extreme extension and reflection of the human psychological condition and military technologies are often rooted in trying to overcome these ‘hind-brain’ determiners; however soldiers often subvert their original purpose i.e. the grenade and the trench.

Posted by: Milites | Jun 11 2023 8:25 utc | 353

Oops, Gaughan, not Gaugham

Posted by: Mark Gaughan | Jun 11 2023 8:26 utc | 354

Sushi # 6:04 utc | 329
Thank you for your diligence. Keep on trucking.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 11 2023 8:32 utc | 355

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2023 8:09 utc | 349
No, L30a1 ammo for the Challenger is two part (separate round and bagged charge), tungsten penetrator for the Leopard’s Rh-120m is a single cased round (round and charge are fitted together). I’m just curious where the crew are and why they are allowing grubby infantry into the turret.

Posted by: Milites | Jun 11 2023 8:36 utc | 356

Sushi | Jun 10 2023 15:33 utc | 56
Do they truly believe NATO doctrine and equipment can prevail in such a conflict?
Yes.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2023 23:37 utc | 259
Just out of curiosity: NATO-Smart Aleks have been lecturing us (and Russia) since the beginning of the offensive how Russia is doing things wrong. And explained how to do things properly (brute force, bundle your tanks and achieve the objective in days, if not hours).
They way NATO is attacking right now.
Any signs that those experts are beginning to re-consider their advice?

Posted by: Marvin | Jun 11 2023 8:51 utc | 357

https://www.unz.com/article/the-british-intelligence-hand-behind-the-ned-and-modern-color-revolutions/
What would Ukraine be without the British? the references in this article are just as important as is the content of the article. Deep state at work should have been the name of the article.

Posted by: snake | Jun 11 2023 8:54 utc | 358

Scott Ritter has a new piece up. Preview: Annie Applebaum is excoriated. Very literary.
https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/finally-the-bull-charged?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Posted by: morongobill | Jun 11 2023 8:55 utc | 359

@b #19
On that, see Military Summary Channel discussion:
Russian Spring | The Ukrainian-NATO Forces Prepares More Attacks. Military Summary For 2023.06.10
He suggests the tactic by the Russians is to use remote delivered mines to first mine behind the advancing column, so that when they are forced to retreat they get hit again, then use more remote mining to replace the original minefield and catch the next advance along the same line as before.
Bottom line is that the Ukes are trying to advance against prepared defences in the teeth of air and artillery dominance, so can’t properly clear mine fields. It’s a no win situation for them (except by not attacking, which seems to be ruled out politically…)

Posted by: Mark Marksson | Jun 11 2023 9:01 utc | 360

@Milites | Jun 11 2023 8:36 utc | 357
Thanks, not DU in the Leopard then. Good.

I’m just curious where the crew are and why they are allowing grubby infantry into the turret.

An why are they allowing the video on Twitter? Seems out of control.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2023 9:03 utc | 361

Milites | Jun 11 2023 8:25 utc | 354
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There’s something very special called unending love for one’s motherland, which is something the ‘western’ people and the Nazis don’t fathom. In Russia, it is the Motherland, not a fatherland, or a homeland. And, the Mother is the Mother, no one can replace a mother.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 9:09 utc | 362

Posted by: morongobill | Jun 11 2023 8:55 utc | 359
I think “excoriated” is OTT unless you are very sensitive. Applebaum is a piece of flotsam that has permeated every ink-soddened publication for decades pushing a Jewish-Polish narrative from the perch of Washington wealth.
What she peddles is “Imperialism” – the kind that set up the British Empire in 17th and 18th Centuries. What she resents is the “Declaration of Independence” – what she revels in is the hubris of US Hegemony that completely sidelined that “Declaration 1776”
She is the worst kind of Racist Imperialist that finds Chinese and Russians as worthy only of Domination and Subjugation. She would no doubt have been “BDM” in Germany and probably shares some of these sentiments but not all………..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRmHOSnehTk
Do savour the absurdity of the German advert before the newsreel !!

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jun 11 2023 9:10 utc | 363

Per analysis so far, the largest RU losses have still come during Ukraine artillery preparations. That means there have been only few occasions where massed infantry assault have been beneficial to AFU side. They have probably been more prominent in the Novodonetsk/Veskuchnoe area.
Success of defence really probably defends on keeping those lines supplied, and having ability to strike reserve accumulations further back is an advantage, as it thwarts or weakens ability to exploit an initial breakthrough.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 11 2023 9:11 utc | 364

In the next three days, rains are expected in the Orekhovo area, which apparently caused the persistence of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/50283

Things are stacking up against the western fanatics.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2023 9:11 utc | 365

So they’re so scared of Russia they won’t even approach Kaliningrad! And you people think they’re going to unilaterally load up on refueling planes, fly 1,000 miles to western Ukraine
Not sure “scared” is the right word. Russians map out their moves like chess players and have no doubt a scenario for a land bridge from Belarus to Kalingrad in a sudden overnight move……..that is what I think NATO fears……..
It would not want to risk London or Brussels for a strip of land

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jun 11 2023 9:14 utc | 366

“In a new article she penned for The Atlantic, Applebaum—a staff writer for the journal— writes of things she has no knowledge of or experience in, namely military operations, both operational and psychological. Like the dilletante she is, Applebaum throws about buzz phrases as if by putting them down on paper, it somehow makes them real, and the schemes they describe possible.
Applebaum, however, is hampered by her inadequacy as a military analyst and—perhaps more importantly—her total ignorance of the character of the Russian people, their leadership, and the nation they represent collectively. Elegantly stated ignorance is Applebaum’s forte, especially when it comes to glossing over both the causation and consequences of a conflict she has been promoting her entire adult life.”
i don’t know what “OTT” means, but this is a grand example of excoriation.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 11 2023 9:26 utc | 367

“This war will end one day, and when it does, Anne Applebaum and the collective west will have much to answer for.”–Ritter
sadly, i don’t think she and her Polish husband, who applauded the US sabotage of the pipeline, will answer for it, absent a descent into nuclear war. she will still have her well paid perch.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 11 2023 9:33 utc | 368

The US Americans or the British, or any country in the NATO had never fought against powerful country, only attacked the weaker ones, and even there they were defeated. How many times can the USA run away from the battlefield? What had happened to the super-duper weapons of the NATO? If Russian Federation, one day walks across the 3 Baltics, what would the larger countries of the NATO would do? Do you think the USA would risk their large island across the bog pond for such small countries, even if they are NATO members? Even, if the RF forces knock off the US/NATO bases in those 3 Baltics?

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 9:46 utc | 369

Just a Leo picture 🙂
https://sonar21.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/image-12.png

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 11 2023 9:47 utc | 370

Even, if the RF forces knock off the US bases in Poland? Or, even in Germany?

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 9:47 utc | 371

362 – Protect the border against whom? Belarus? Or even Poland?

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 11 2023 9:48 utc | 372

Scott Ritter has a new piece up. Preview: Annie Applebaum is excoriated. Very literary.
https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/finally-the-bull-charged?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Posted by: morongobill | Jun 11 2023 8:55 utc | 359
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… Yes, the great Ukrainian counteroffensive has finally begun. The Ukrainian bull has been prodded into the arena by the collective west. The Ukrainian bull, weakened by the provision of inadequate weaponry and filled with the false promise of western support, does not comprehend that he is merely a pawn in a greater game, Eastern European manpower to be married up with NATO technology in a bid to weaken Russia. Maddened by the pain, blinded with fury, the Ukrainian bull sees the red cape…
Finally the bull charged…
Close your eyes, and you can hear the claps of the collective west urging the Ukrainian bull on.
Open your eyes, and you will see Anne Applebaum and her ilk reveling in the blood being spilt, cheering the slaughter and indifferent to the Ukrainian bull’s agony as the Matador slides the blade into his flesh.

Nothing more for me to add. Good post … many thanks.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Jun 11 2023 10:00 utc | 373

Posted by: BP | Jun 11 2023 5:24 utc | 326
You are delusional
No.
My prior post: Sushi | Jun 10 2023 18:16 utc | 128 contains an error:
For those who do not follow Canadian politics (includes 95% of Canadians)
The above should be amended to read:
For those who do not follow Canadian politics (includes 95% of Canadians. The remaining 4% lack any knowledge of their history.)
You should travel to St. James Cemetery, Toronto, and place some wilted flowers on the grave of Walter Lockhart Gordon.
The intellectual vessel on which you seek to embark sailed five decades ago.

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2023 10:26 utc | 374

Anne Applebaum is a staff writer for The Atlantic and a Pulitzer-prize winning historian. She is also a Senior Fellow at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and the Agora Institute, where she co-directs Arena, a program on disinformation and 21st century propaganda.
A Washington Post columnist for fifteen years and a former member of the editorial board, she has also worked as the Foreign and Deputy Editor of the Spectator magazine in London, as the Political Editor of the Evening Standard, and as a columnist at Slate as well as the Daily and Sunday Telegraphs. From 1988-1991 she covered the collapse of communism as the Warsaw correspondent of the Economist magazine and the Independent newspaper.
Red Famine: Stalin’s War on Ukraine was published in October 2017. It received the Lionel Gelber Prize as well as the Duff Cooper prize in 2018.
Her previous book, Iron Curtain: The Crushing of Eastern Europe, 1944-1956, described the imposition of Soviet totalitarianism in Central Europe after the Second World War. Iron Curtain won the 2012 Cundill Prize for Historical Literature and the Duke of Westminster Medal, and was a National Book Award finalist.
She is also the author of Gulag: A History, which narrates the history of the Soviet concentration camps system and describes daily life in the camps, making extensive use of recently opened Russian archives as well as memoirs and interviews. Gulag won the Pulitzer Prize for non-fiction in 2004 and was also a National Book Award finalist.
Iron Curtain, Gulag: A History and Red Famine have all appeared in more than two dozen translations, including all major European languages.
Anne Applebaum is also the co-author of a cookbook, From a Polish Country House Kitchen, and a recently re-published travelogue, Between East and West: Across the Borderlands of Europe, which describes a journey across Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine made in 1991, just before the break-up of the Soviet Union.
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She has lectured at Yale, Harvard, Stanford and Columbia Universities, as well as Oxford, Cambridge, London, Heidelberg, Maastricht, Zurich, Humboldt, Texas A&M, Houston and many others. In 2012-13 she held the Phillipe Roman Chair of History and International Relations at the London School of Economics. She received honorary doctorates from the Georgetown School of Foreign Service and Kyiv-Mohyla University.
Anne Applebaum was born in Washington, DC in 1964. After graduating from Yale University, she was a Marshall Scholar at the LSE and St. Antony’s College, Oxford. Her husband, Radoslaw Sikorski, is a Polish politician and writer. They have two children, Alexander and Tadeusz.

Posted by: re Applebaum | Jun 11 2023 10:29 utc | 375

This is not at the Donbass borders. It’s a step like Azovstal or Bakhmut. Remember lots of talking heads on yt, including Gonzalo “McDonalds”, thought the war is surely going to end after that. Why would nato quit when Russia fights with a tiny army? This is going like a replay of the Syria split. Now natoids badly want to send airplanes as next step. Will be easy and with no cost to find 200 old planes. 200 pilots not so easy but doable if they find enough kamikaze zombies from Ukr combined with other kamikaze zombies. Landing skills not required. Even now, every week Russia shots down one-two Ukr planes but after they fire missiles a few times. Planes won’t win Donbass or Crimea but can cause big damage which is the only thing nato likes. Even if nato uses f16s to drop a nuke in Donbass there won’t be a nuclear response from Russia, according to Marty from America who said it on his blog’s comments.

Posted by: rk | Jun 11 2023 10:31 utc | 376

Sushi@ 329
Brzezinki was a Galician aristocrat. Of course his personal irredenta was the most important place in the world

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 11 2023 10:44 utc | 377

rk # 10:31 utc | 377

Now natoids badly want to send airplanes as next step. Will be easy and with no cost to find 200 old planes.

To top off the F-16 madness why not send them gift wrapped in a spare aircraft carrier to dock in Odessa. Now that is a NATO look good gesture. I hear the UK has a newish vessel surplus right now. Good for a one way journey – maybe :/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 11 2023 10:48 utc | 378

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 11 2023 9:11 utc | 365
What every poster should realise is that however confusing and chaotic war is, it follows its own iron laws of combat, sometimes themselves a product of other iron laws, relating to physical forces: artillery will be the biggest killer, due to its delivery system and method of attack, the number of casualties will correlate closely with the target density, and the rate of casualties is influenced by them density of projectiles and time of exposure, to said projectiles. Terrain and other factors will influence which laws have ascendency, but each law is unbreakable.
There are other interactions, often regarding softer factors that, whilst malleable, still seem to operate with a frequency suggestive of a de-facto status: training, morale, tactics, etc; however, the iron laws, that Ukraine are currently flouting, are implacable and indefatigable who transgressors are always punished severely.

Posted by: Milites | Jun 11 2023 10:52 utc | 379

Posted by: re Applebaum | Jun 11 2023 10:29 utc | 376
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So?
An a-hole is an a-hole…

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 10:56 utc | 380

Posted by: rk | Jun 11 2023 10:31 utc | 377
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All of them are US talking heads…so, nothing much to gain from their ‘talks’…

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 10:59 utc | 381

Milites | Jun 11 2023 10:52 utc | 380
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There also something called intelligent flying bombs launched quite far from the Russian old border…from the older soviet stocks…

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 11:02 utc | 382

From Colonel Cassad…..
https://colonelcassad-livejournal-com.translate.goog/8416165.html
The situation in the Zaporozhye direction on the evening of June 10
Heavy losses forced the enemy to subject plans to a sharp adjustment:
The reserves deployed in the Krivoy Rog, Sumy, Kharkov directions are being transferred to the directions:
1). settlement Gornyak, Kurakhovka, Krasnogorovka, Staromikhaylovka, Marinka;
2) settlements of Nevelskoye, Pervomayskoye, Vodyanoye;
3) n.p. Dzerzhinskoye, at least 2 brigades were deployed in the direction of Mayorsk and Gorlovka.
The reserves go through the Kramatorsk-Slavyansk transport hub, entering each direction in the Zaporozhye and Donetsk regions to reinforce the existing groupings.
For the current groupings, it is currently established:
According to the strategic plan of the enemy, it is planned to push through the front line of defense along the Nesteryanka-Novoselovka line and to the south, with the forces of four brigades: 65 Ombr, 128 Obr, 108 Obr, 15 Obr NSU), and provide a bridgehead for the introduction of the main forces of the strike force.
The main strike force is aimed at the direction of Orekhov – Tokmak – Melitopol, it is planned to ensure the advance with the forces of 10 AK, the basis of the shock fist should be: 115, 116, 117, 118 ombr, which we talked about earlier.
Task: access to Melitopol from the north.
A flank strike is planned in the direction Malaya Tokmachka – Berdyansk, with the forces of 82 odshbr, 71 oembr, and 46 oambr, with the task of seizing control on the line of the settlement of Urozhaynoye, Novopoltavka, Semyonovka.
Task: Covering the left flank of the main group.
In the future, it is planned to conduct raid operations as part of battalion-tactical groups with the forces of: 46 detachments and 1 Special Forces “Azov” in the directions of the settlement of Mordvinovka, Novovasilevka, Botieva.
Objective: to capture the frontier along the coast of the Sea of ​​Azov Stepanovka the first, Botievo and prevent the landing of amphibious assault forces of the RF Armed Forces.
Forces of the main offensive grouping up to 12 brigades (47, 66, 115, 116, 117, 118 OMBR, 128 OGSHBR, 108 OBTR, 15 OBRON NGU, 82 ODSHBR, 71 OEBR, 46 OMBR)
In total, for the offensive operation, including reserves (including marine brigades, as well as units located in the Krivoy Rog direction, included in the single plan of the operation in the Zaporozhye direction), the enemy has currently prepared: Manpower – up to 56 thousand people (
68 battalions)
Tanks – up to 350.
AFVs of all types – up to 1000
Field artillery guns and mortars – up to 500.
MLRS – up to 140 units.
(From these figures it is necessary to subtract the number of those destroyed in recent days)
IMPORTANT. The Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is carrying out information sabotage, spreading information that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are finally bogged down due to lack of funds to continue the offensive operation.
Under no circumstances can you trust this information, it is designed to weaken the vigilance of the RF Armed Forces, the enemy has more than enough forces.
The enemy will throw everything he has into battle, regardless of losses, you must use this to inflict critical damage on him.

If this report is valid, it means that the Ukies are stripping other sections of the front to mass for the big push.
This specifically means this push is an all or nothing endeavor…
If the Ukies do this and are defeated, that is the end of the Ukie Army…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jun 11 2023 11:03 utc | 383

The ugly woman(?) ‘saved’ by Biden actually hates America….https://www.foxnews.com/sports/wnba-says-brittney-griner-subject-inappropriate-incident-social-media-star-posts-video-interaction

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 11:12 utc | 384

“Now there are no prerequisites for agreements. Moreover, now there is no foundation, even a flimsy one, in order to build at least some kind of dialogue. We see: a) the unwillingness of the regime, b) unpreparedness, c) the impermissibility of the regime on the part of the owners [to negotiate], so to speak, without any diplomatic equivocations,” – Dmitry Peskov

Posted by: ostro | Jun 11 2023 11:15 utc | 385

Newsflash. SNAP, SNAP, SNAP.
Radio NZ journalists deviated from the uniparty line and created a crisis in the RNZ boardroom. Reuters is horrified. Politicians in apoplexy. The truth really hurts. Worse than sticks and stones.
RNZ investigating Kremlin-friendly story edits
“The conflict in Ukraine began in 2014 after a pro-Russian elected government was toppled during Ukraine’s violent Maidan colour revolution. Russia annexed Crimea after a referendum, as the new pro-Western government suppressed ethnic Russians in eastern and southern Ukraine, sending in its armed forces to the Donbas.”
RNZ’s 4pm news bulletin on Friday said the version published by RNZ “included a false account of events” and RNZ is investigating how the story was “changed to reflect a pro-Russian view.”
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018893783/rnz-investigating-kremlin-friendly-story-edits

Posted by: Paul GV | Jun 11 2023 11:30 utc | 386

Today at about 1:30 a.m. Moscow time, the Ukrainian armed forces made an unsuccessful attempt to attack the Black Sea Fleet’s ship “Priazovye”, which carries out tasks of controlling the situation and ensuring security along the routes of the Turkish Stream and Blue Stream gas pipelines in the south-eastern part of the Black Sea, by six sea fast boats without crews.
◽️ All the gunboats were destroyed by the Russian ship’s regular fire 300 km southeast of Sevastopol. There were no casualties. The ship sustained no damage.
◽️ During this period, as during the previous similar attacks, a strategic reconnaissance drone RQ-4B “Global Hawk” of the US Air Force was performing reconnaissance in the airspace of the central part of the Black Sea.
◽️ The “Priazovye” ship of the Black Sea Fleet continues to carry out its assigned tasks.

Posted by: Fives | Jun 11 2023 11:30 utc | 387

re Applebaum | Jun 11 2023 10:29 utc | 376
orwell’s 1984 is the neocon tech manual.
the atlantic is militarists’ npr.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 11 2023 11:31 utc | 388

387 – The truth intruded. It had to be stopped…

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 11 2023 11:39 utc | 389

378 – Similarly, Vaclav Havel’s family were wealthy businesspeople who lost status when Czechoslovakia went Communist in 1948.

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 11 2023 11:41 utc | 390

“Nato flag is a swastika.
Posted by: UWDude | Jun 11 2023 7:54 utc | 345”
—and NATO HQ, seen from the sky, is the famous Gestapo SS symbol. Doubled.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 11 2023 12:00 utc | 391

“Any signs that those [NATO] experts are beginning to re-consider their advice?
Posted by: Marvin | Jun 11 2023 8:51 utc | 358”
God, I hope not!

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 11 2023 12:04 utc | 392

During the past day, the armed forces of Ukraine continued unsuccessful attempts of offensive actions in the South Donetsk, Zaporozhye and Donetsk directions.
In the area of the Vremyevsky salient, operational-tactical and army aviation strikes defeated clusters of manpower and equipment of the 1st separate Brigade of the President of Ukraine, the 110th Territorial Defense Brigade, the 72nd mechanized and 1st tank brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Novodonetsky, Neskuchnoye, Storozhevoye and the October state farm Donetsk People’s Republic.
In the Zaporozhye direction, three enemy attacks from the directions of the settlements of Novodanilovka, Malaya Tokmachka and Novopokrovka of the Zaporozhye region were repulsed during the day by decisive and competent actions of the defending units, air strikes and artillery fire of the Vostok group of troops.
A column of armored vehicles of the 128th Mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was defeated in the area of the settlement of Lukyanovskoye, Zaporozhye region, advancing in the southern direction.
The total losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in these areas during the day amounted to over 50 Ukrainian servicemen, 11 tanks, including three Leopard, 17 infantry fighting vehicles, 16 armored combat vehicles, four vehicles, a Stormer anti-aircraft missile system combat vehicle, as well as the M777 artillery system.
In the Donetsk direction, the most active hostilities were conducted in the areas of the settlements of Maryinka and Avdiivka of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
During the day, the “Southern” grouping of troops successfully repelled eight attacks by units of the 110th mechanized, 1st tank, 59th motorized Infantry and 79th airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the directions of the settlements of Novobakhmutovka, Krasnogorovka, Pervomaiske and Maryinka. There are no intrusions into our defense.
During the fighting, up to 310 Ukrainian servicemen, two tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles, two armored combat vehicles, two cars, three pickups, two Msta-B howitzers, and a D-30 howitzer were destroyed.
Ammunition depots of the 63rd Motorized Infantry and 53rd Mechanized Brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of Krasnoe and Lastochkino of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
In the area of the city of Orekhov, Zaporozhye region, the control point of the 47th mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was hit. In the area of the settlement of Kirovo, Zaporozhye region, the communication center of the 65th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was destroyed. In the areas of the settlements of Rai-Alexandrovka, Predtechino of the Donetsk People’s Republic and Malaya Tokmachka of the Zaporozhye region, the headquarters of the 10th mountain assault Brigade, as well as command and observation posts of the 3rd assault Brigade and the 15th operational brigade were hit.
@mod_russia

Posted by: Fives | Jun 11 2023 12:12 utc | 393

@ Posted by: re Applebaum | Jun 11 2023 10:29 utc | 376
What a damning CV! Only thing missing is a Nobel Prize.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 11 2023 12:14 utc | 394

The Russian Armed Forces drove the Nazis out of the village of Neskuchnoe(Нескучное)and regained control over it.
The enemy is trying to evacuate his wounded, our aircrafts are working.” – Archangel Spetsnaz
@DDgeopolitics

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 11 2023 12:15 utc | 395

Speaking of Maryinka, I thought the Chechens were fighting to finish the job. I have not seen any sitreps.
Anyone seen an update?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 11 2023 12:40 utc | 396

@379 uncle tungsten The Montreaux Convention prohibits aircraft carriers in the Black Sea so, no, the Turks would never allow it.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 11 2023 12:49 utc | 397

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 11 2023 3:06 utc | 312
you want to try to explain how Shokin not knowing about it means it didn’t happen?
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Nobody in the whole wide world knew about it until Joe Biden invented the story.
If the head of Ukraine’s federal bureau of investigation doesn’t know anything about Joe being in Ukraine and doesn’t know anything about a billion dollars in aid withheld then who in the world did know about those things? Nobody did, because it did not happen.
In February of 2015 Shokin replaced the previous prosecutor who resigned in response to civil unrest in the streets of Ukraine over the Maidan murders not being investigated. Shokin took office with lots of promises that he would prosecute the culprits behind the Maidan murders. A year later, there were violent protests in Ukraine demanding that Shokin be fired for stonewalling the investigation the Maidan murders. In response to the protests and Shokin himself being fired on by snipers, Shokin tendered his resignation and fled the country. Several weeks later Shokin said he changed his mind and said he was not quitting. When civil unrest started up again the Ukraine parliament accepted his resignation and officially canned him.
There is good evidence that the Bidens, Burisma, Shokin and others were part of a massive money-laundering scheme where billion of IMF funds intended for the rehabilitation of Ukraine were disappeared into EU and US banking channels and EU and US corporate shell companies. Those crimes mostly have not been investigated.
Both Trump and Biden promote the lie that Biden had the prosecutor fired or they would not get a Billion dollars. Their role in this massive illegal activity is to divert attention away from the true illegal activity towards a phony crime that will never be prosecuted because there is zero evidence to be found because it never happened.

Posted by: jinn | Jun 11 2023 12:54 utc | 398

reply to 384
I think Ukr. leaders may have realized that a massive human wave suicide attack is the only strategy left with any chance of success. Sending in a few tanks and hundred men at a time is too efficient for the Russians to destroy. It’s ‘bite size’ and feeds the attrition strategy.
It’s horrific, a sort of ‘banzai’ charge but the alternative doesn’t work. The only question to me is will Ukr. troops willingly march into mass slaughter? I think they will. We’ve seen too little evidence that they care for their lives.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 11 2023 12:57 utc | 399

Russia IS at war with NATO.
There is a whole article still to be written on the difference between today and if Russia declared war and stopped the SMO.
What you would probably find is there is very little difference between the two at present.
HUGE advantages for Russia if they did declare a war footing against NATO. Regarding destroying supply lines along its borders in the air and on sea and satellites could be knocked out of the sky.
HUGE Dis advantages as they are not ready to fully mobilise just yet.
I’d love to read an article on it by somebody who knows the ins and outs rather than just claim article 5 would lead to a nuclear war. My guess is it wouldn’t as everybody is just a proxy for the US.

Posted by: Derek Henry | Jun 11 2023 12:57 utc | 400