Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 9, 2023
Kursk 2.0?

Lazy and arguably biased as I am, I will just present the analysis (slightly edited) of the former Swedish officer and defense politician Mikael Valtersson:

ANALYSIS UKRAINIAN COUNTEROFFENSIVE ZAPORIZHIA AFTERNOON JUNE 9

Hard fighting continues along the Zaporizhia front, but with no Ukrainian breakthrough. Sometimes UkrAF makes small gains and then RuAF retakes the lost territories. But all fighting are still being conducted in the grey area in front of the Russian main defence lines.


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I will not go into details about attacks and counterattacks, but the main areas of fighting has been centred around Lobkove to the west, and Robotino to the south, of Orikhiv. Lobkove was captured a short while by Ukrainian forces, but later they retreated due to intense Russian bombardments.


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In Robotino Russian forces retreated to the second line of forward positions closer to the settlement, then Russian forces retook the lost positions and presently Ukrainian forces has taken them a second time and now Russian forces try to retake the first line a second time. But still the Ukrainians has not reached the settlement of Robotino and they are fighting an uphill battle in open terrain through Russian minefields and might have to withdraw a second time to their original positions.


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The Ukrainian forces don't seem to sweep mines in advance of the attack. They do it with a couple of mine clearing vehicles when they attack and behind them the Ukrainian armour advance in a column that is an easy target for Russian AT assets. In a way it resembles the Russian armour columns in the beginning of the war. Columns that took catastrophic losses to Ukrainian AT weapons, a history now repeated by the Ukrainians.

In advance of an offensive, the attacking side must secure air and artillery superiority, so they can shield their mine clearing operations and troop concentrations. And at the same time destroy the defenders command structures and logistical hubs. Finally when they attack their air and artillery superiority can be utilised to severely hurt and slow down enemy reserves to secure breakthroughs. This becomes even more important if the enemy has large reserves and a defence in depth.

On the Zaporizhia front the situation is the opposite, so Ukrainian forces hasn't many choices how to act. One method is to achieve strategic surprise as in the Kharkiv offensive last autumn. That option doesn't exist on the Zaporizhia front. In general I would say that an attack towards an enemy who has all the benefits RuAF has on the Zaporizhia front is suicidal.

The only way Ukrainian (and western) commanders even could have contemplated that such an offensive could succeed was if

  1. western weapons were much superior to Russian weapons,
  2. western trained soldiers much superior to Russian soldiers and
  3. Russian morale was dismal.

If all these factors where true, UkrAF might have had a chance to succeed, but nothing seems to corroborate those assumptions.

Many on the Ukrainian and western side had anticipated hard initial resistance from RuAF, but after 2-3 days fighting and advances of around 6-8 km, they expected an increasing collapse of Russian morale and the real breakthroughs would come. Nothing of this seems to be other than wishful thinking, since fighting still are in the grey zone and Russian resistance are unbroken. At the same time Ukrainian forces take heavy casualties both in soldiers and vehicles.

The offensive isn't over yet and the main Ukrainian attack fist remains with probably over 600 tanks and as many IFVs around Orikhiv. But the future for the Ukrainian offensive looks bleak if their vanguard is destroyed before they reach the Russian main defence lines. The probability is large that Ukraine has to use up their main force to get through a couple of the Russian defencelines and then they will run out of forces to exploit any successes and be forced to withdraw.

To summarise, the most likely outcome of the Ukrainian offensive is minor territorial gains at a horrendous cost.

As I've said before it seems to be Kursk 2.0

I largely agree with the above assessment (even though Kursk 1.0 was much larger and way more balanced).

The biggest tactical mistake I see on the Ukrainian side is the bunching up of vehicles. The distance between combat vehicle on roads and in open fields should be 100 meter, not 10, 5 or 1 meter like in the picture below. The Ukrainian columns regularly get slaughtered by artillery strikes because they always(!) bunch up. Keeping distances is a basic training lecture for any combined arms warfare unit.


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Where are the air defenses? Ukraine has received 37 German Gepard (cheetah) air defense tanks. These are old but can keep the air clean,  each within a 10 kilometer wide bubble. The Gepards were specifically designed to cover tank and mech-infantry battalions in battle. But judging from the number of drone videos the Russian can put out, there is not one Gepard in the whole area.

Also where are the electromagnetic measures. Why can Russian artillery directing drones fly over the combat zone but not Ukrainians?

Why are no fog grenades used by Ukrainian artillery to cover the approaches and breaching attempts by Ukrainian armor?

How are piecemeal commitments, wave after wave but hours apart, going to change anything when what is needed are massive consistent pushes to get through?

Folks, these are basics, not higher level operational or strategic issues. I have drilled these basics into conscripts. If you can't even get those right, after allegedly intense 'western' training, what hope is there to breach through seriously prepared Russian defense lines?

None.

Here is some of the damage done to last night's and today's morning attacks by an allegedly prime Ukrainian unit, the 43rd 'western' trained brigade, that uses prime 'western' equipment.


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Here is video of more.

The first serious probing attacks for the counter offensive started on June 5. I have listed the Ukrainian losses the Russian Ministry of Defense has since reported. Note that these numbers are mostly for the whole front, not just for the Zaporizhia region.


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These numbers are, like in most frontline reports, likely too high. But even if one only takes them at half or a third for real they are still frightening high.


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A whole brigade, more likely a third each of three brigades, has been wasted for zero gains.

Consider that we are five days in and the Ukrainian forces, despite using Leopards and Bradleys, their main forces, have hardly crossed the first contact line. The real Russian first defense lines are still miles away and there are three or more of those.

The History Legends Youtube channel calls this a disaster.

I agree with that too.

Comments

> Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 10 2023 8:56 utc | 263
> Posted by: laguerre | Jun 10 2023 10:17 utc | 282
I watched that video several times, and i think it was not friendly fire. Hardly a landmine – the previous Bradlies would’ve probably trigger such a mine first. So i think it was hit by Russia.
Leopard was clearly trying to suppress Russian fire. And it ramped up the suppression attempt after that Bradley got hit.
Also, the Leopard’s barrel was pointing to thise.. bushes? not to the Bradley. When the dust clowd goes out you see the position of Bradley was not in the line of Leopard shooting lines.
All in all, i think the Bradley was hit by Russian which mean either the Leopard failed to do enough of suppression fire, or it was hit from a different place (like helicopter’s guided missile or something)

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 10 2023 11:19 utc | 301

@Arioch | Jun 10 2023 11:19 utc | 300
As posted in 297 & 298 it is not a Leo it is an IFV… a Bradley as Scotch Bingeington pointed out.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 10 2023 11:21 utc | 302

I made an early morning post on Hamish De Bretton Gordon and the British Tank Regiment are the school of Military Intelligence deepstate spookery of the U.K.
this was followed by two other posters referring to the same person but it seems ignoring the man’s actual history.
He is not just a media front. He and his colleagues are The Deepstate Troopers. The ‘Greenmantle’s riding forth’. They are the Class Warriors who have never stopped in their attempt at taking the ‘World Island’. They are born and raised into that grand delusional martial imperial Dream. Via Eton and Oxbridge, the Cameron- Bozo Lordship’s type. The media barons , the 77th, integrity initiative , absurd names made up by jolly jinx posh types – Institute of Statecraft! – etc many who sit as elected and unelected placemen and women in the structures of the Collective Wastes governance.
Hamish has been directly involved in all the bs and chemical warfare crap for a long time.
Just look it up, it goes from taking Libyan arms to Syria; supposedly working on the Ship that was assigned to dismantling and disposing various chemical weapons, but obviously diverting them; the Syrian chemical warfare was directed by him and his training of the WhiteHelmets. He is rewarded with being an executive of the Rubber Company that makes the multicoloured tellytuby protection suits that were on display in Salisbury after that pantomime. It’s his ‘cover’ and like the other media spooks such as Chris Steele, they have been actively working towards the DS plans coordinated across the 5+1 eyes.
That Tank Regiment ‘James Bond school’ has other luminaries that have been involved in this bullshit of a generation – the Skripal minder Pablo Miller …
The Novichok crap directly links these two, their tank regiment and the full Russophobia narrative of the mass media in the U.K.; they are also linked by the Russiagate conspiracy against an elected president of the US by the Steele Dossiers against that potus.
Their ultimately successful attempts at election fixing through postal votes, and massive dirty propaganda against Jeremy Corby (twice), their massive meddling against Scottish Independence and probably Anti EU BrexShit along with other he Trump election meddling – regardless of whether you like him or not – would have meant that this insanity of theirs would have been stopped.
They even threatened a coup if Corbyn was allowed to win and endanger ‘All their plans’ as the ex MI6 chief Dearlove directly stated when Corbyn was suddenly looking like a winner.
It was very shortly after I noticed and started posting on the Guardians comments that I was suddenly ‘cancelled’ without any reason by their ‘Mods’ – it turns out they really were the MoD 😆 – that I stopped believing in the mainstream media, stopped reading the Obsessive Groaniad and it’s wormtongues masquerading as Social Justice warriors.
Hence DunGroanin. And many an oasis of actual real information from such sites as this absolute brilliant MoA and b and a very well informed commentators and a few moles no doubt.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 10 2023 11:21 utc | 303

> you can see a kind of ring standing out from the rest of the hull. That’s the M2 driver’s hatch,
> Posted by: Scotch Bingeington
Well, i considered it to be one of round vents on the Leopard motor section.
But i agree the “autocannon” point and also there was visible “armor skirt” left and right from the canon, that Leo 2a6 lavks, but some NATO light-cannon turrets do have.
Still, i do not think it was a friendly fire case.

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 10 2023 11:21 utc | 304

Rheinmetall CEO just acknowledged the Leopard 2 panzers were destroyed without firing a shot. He also said that Ukraine can only receive correct type of ammunition if EUronato countries release their ammunition stockpiles to Ukraine.
Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2023 7:11 utc | 236
“You are using it wrong” was a lousy excuse when Steve Jobs tried to argue away antenna gate. Didn’t get better with time .

Posted by: Marvin | Jun 10 2023 11:35 utc | 305

Dungroanin
Yes, he’s a posh establishment shill. I wish he would get into a Challenger in the Ukraine and attack the front himself.
Then we wouldn’t have to listen to his rubbish.

Posted by: scepticalSOB | Jun 10 2023 11:36 utc | 306

https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1667484759591645184
Medvedev asks Rheinmetall to share the new Ukrainian tank factory location in advance :-)))

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 10 2023 11:46 utc | 307

It seems that there may be gaps of several hours between AFU attack waves. While it gives AFU opportunity to regroup, it also potentially (and probably) gives time to rearm those front line positions, rearm helicopters and artillery and rocket launchers. So AFU gained the locations of some fixed structures but it helps nothing against anything that can move, which mostly causes the new wave to begin from 0 position again.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2023 11:55 utc | 308

Yeah, Right | Jun 10 2023 8:56 utc | 263
The Bradley Leopard debacle.
Yessh. Easy and tempting to point and laugh.
But that’s what you get when you press gang civilians from the streets, “train” them, then throw them into a WW3 battle.
Yes. It’s a clown show. But it’s also testimony to this evil, cynical “To The Last Ukrainian” poxy war.
What were they thinking? They panicked. And had no real skill set to call on.
Yes, It’s comical. But mostly it’s really, really fucking tragic.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2023 11:57 utc | 309

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2023 11:55 utc | 307
They might even lob a few aerial deployed mines on attack vectors while they’re at it.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2023 11:57 utc | 310

DunGroanin @ 302
That’s the kind of quality comment and ‘true information that makes this blog top notch’ packed with facts not speculation.
I can confirm all you say.
And someone else worth keeping an eye on at this pivotal momment is of couse—- Tobias Elwood, he’s got a finger in every dodgy pie around.
Plus Jacob Ree-mogg or as of yesterday Sir Rees-Mogg—- Boris Johnson’s promoter of old, the devil on Johnson’s shoulder and thoroughly despicable excuse for a human being, evil personified. Needs keeping an eye on.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 10 2023 12:05 utc | 311

Dungroanin, scepticalSOB
And, of course Mark Urban

Posted by: Awe | Jun 10 2023 12:10 utc | 312

With so much diletantism, one has to seriously consider treason in the Western leadership class.
But betrayal of the interests of the population was already the NATO expansion to the East, not to speak of the democracy simulation Minsk 2. The rejection of the results of the Istanbul negotiations continues this line against the population.
Interestingly, more than 5 million Ukrainians have already voted for a peace plan (german source):
https://tkp.at/2023/06/08/ukrainisches-volk-praesentiert-friedensplan/

Posted by: Johnny | Jun 10 2023 12:16 utc | 313

So this is not a war, as all the Z people say, but it is a replay of the Battle of Kursk. Therefore the so-called Great Patriotic War was not a war at all. Thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: Thim | Jun 10 2023 12:18 utc | 314

You can train these guys all you want on NATO tactics and give them the most advanced weapons but if the Russians can jam their comms and GPS and lay minefields in minutes you’re going to see confusion and disarray in their ranks just like you are seeing in Zaporizhia today. You can give them stealth tanks with laser beams but if they don’t know where they are, can’t talk to each other and risk hitting a mine if they turn left or right they can’t very well maneuver and fight effectively.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 10 2023 12:20 utc | 315

During the past day, the armed forces of Ukraine continued unsuccessful attempts to conduct offensive operations in the South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, as well as in the area of the city of Artemovsk.
In the Zaporozhye direction, the active actions of the units of the Vostok group of troops, the strikes of army aviation and artillery repelled two enemy attacks by forces up to a battalion reinforced with tanks in the direction of the settlements of Yablonevoye and Novopokrovka of the Zaporozhye region. In addition, two columns of armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were defeated in the areas of the settlements of Novodanilovka and Malaya Tokmachka of the Zaporozhye region.
On the Vremyevsky ledge, the enemy launched three unsuccessful attacks, each by forces up to a motorized infantry company, in the areas of the settlements of Levadnoye, Zaporozhye region, Storozhevoye and Neskuchnoye of the Donetsk People’s Republic. By the courageous and decisive actions of the units of the Vostok group of forces, all enemy attacks were repelled. The total losses of Ukrainian troops in these areas during the day amounted to 300 soldiers, nine tanks, of which four Leopard, 11 infantry fighting vehicles, including five American Bradley, 14 armored combat vehicles, six cars, as well as a self-propelled artillery installation “Cezar” made in France.
In the area of the city of Artemovsk of the Donetsk People’s Republic, the active actions of the “Southern” group of troops during the day successfully repelled five enemy attacks in the direction of the settlements of Kleshcheyevka, Dubovo-Vasilevka, Yagodnoye and Andreevka of the Donetsk People’s Republic. The enemy’s intrusion into our defense is not allowed. During the fighting in this direction, up to 230 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored combat vehicles, five cars, as well as two D-30 howitzers were destroyed.

Posted by: Fives | Jun 10 2023 12:35 utc | 316

@Brendan 234
Watch that article quietly being scrubbed from the Internet in a few weeks.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jun 10 2023 12:37 utc | 317

“Each and every tank we receive from Australia will help us break through the enemy’s defenses – and as a result, regain our land and save the lives of our people.”
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2023 6:33 utc | 229
Ukronazis are really, really so stupid that they deserve to be eradicated. They are displaying the true western “values”: kill, kill and kill.
By the way one corrupt msm is showing videos of tank destruction where the tank is depicted as Russian because a Russian flag is added on the video. Once the tank was hidden in the forest, or the Russian flag is covering the tank so that you cannot id it.
Is it a common trick seen on other msm?

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 12:50 utc | 318

ostro | Jun 9 2023 20:31 utc | 93
***Former U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson is stepping down as a member of parliament with immediate effect.***
Potentially competition for Wallace and Freeland?
Of course, NATO would have to be insane.
But … it is.

Posted by: Cynic | Jun 10 2023 12:57 utc | 319

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 12:50 utc | 317
It’s been going on since the beginning. The fact is, everyone has so far been using pretty much exact same equipment – you can easily paint a Z or V or O or whatever on any destroyed T-55 tank and call it Russian. You can also film one destroyed tanks from 2 or 3 directions and list them as 2 or 3 separate tanks (there are claims this is what Oryx does). The good thing is now Ukraine won’t have any more T-72 etc. so we will start seeing lot more burning Leopards and they can no longer claim destroyed Leopards as Russian.
Anyone recall the stories in the beginning that Ukraine got hundreds of additional abandoned tanks towed from the field? Well, they probably get some abandoned tanks in the first few months chaos stage, but most of the tanks T-72, T-64, T-55 actually came from Poland and Slovakia.
It’s possible that Ukraine is listing a lot of their own losses as Russian losses. You know, if they have Azov and Kraken detachments in the rear shooting anyone trying to run away or defect sides, they probably don’t really care about their own, because, ethnically they are kind of Russians. And it fits the Ukraine nationalist bandera ideology and it’s the cynicism they depict events.

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2023 13:05 utc | 320

@ Leopards captured | Jun 10 2023 7:50 utc | 246
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Captured gun camera data has been released to the ‘net.
https://twitter.com/_Surovikin_/status/1667393318936879106
Posted by: too scents | Jun 10 2023 8:01 utc | 248
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> Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 10 2023 8:56 utc | 263
> Posted by: laguerre | Jun 10 2023 10:17 utc | 282
I watched that video several times, and i think it was not friendly fire. Hardly a landmine – the previous Bradlies would’ve probably trigger such a mine first. So i think it was hit by Russia.
Posted by: Arioch | Jun 10 2023 11:19 utc | 300
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The shell casings on the Bradley alone indicate that it is not a Leopard. The Bradley had already stopped firing when the other IFV got hit (by the Russians). The movement of the soldiers on the ground indicates that they are coming to the aid of the Bradley with the gun camera after it was hit.
Back to the main event. Do the Ukies have lots of (hidden) resources left to implement the strategy described by Simplicius? Crimea or bust?

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 10 2023 13:10 utc | 321

Just throwing this out for consideration …the no Leopards at the front was bs, just being held back in reserve bs, won’t see offensive action bs ……in a few hours hundreds of NATO planes will be in the air……the Ukie f16s will have been prepositioned…..waiting. NATO still pushing advance, advance, advance. Why? They are timing it.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 10 2023 13:10 utc | 322

Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 12:50 utc | 317
From Hour 1, Day 1 of the sloSMO anything destroyed or disastrous is Russian.
So often I’d see something pop up on a Russian telegram, of Russia destroying something Ukrainian…. A few hours later, the exact same vid is now Ukraine destroying something Russian. Even now ,I bashfully confess, I still can’t really tell a Russian from a Ukrainian uniform. I need armband colour or chevrons.
I was never much into the minutiae of who plonked who, when and how, so I was able to scroll by and ignore the inevitable incendiary internet arguments.
Here is another example… this tweet says it’s Russian emergency services rescuing Kherson flood victims. But the vision has been rebadged as Ukrainian… except the Russian logos are still visible.
As had been posted here @bar, Ukraine has a whole army of twits to fight the internet wars.
This week the Ukrainian information army can’t do much to counter the Bradley Leopard disasters.
Some diehard Ukraine flags still screech all vid and pics are fake and photoshop. It’s both amusing, and disturbing.

Ukraine propaganda channels are showing rescue scenes in the flooded areas of Kherson.
Just one problem – they forgot to blur out the text on the rescuers’ uniforms: “EMERCOM Russia”.
These are Russian rescuers helping people on the left bank.

https://twitter.com/KhersonFrom/status/1667354057663471616

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2023 13:14 utc | 323

Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2023 13:05 utc | 319
Thanks a lot! You are spot on!
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2023 13:14 utc | 322
A lot of thanks, too!

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 13:20 utc | 324

Re: Posted by: whirlX | Jun 9 2023 18:09 utc | 28

What I find intriguing is that when there is a real action on the ground, there are no NATO AWACS, Sentinels, Artemis’ also the other stuff, and it appears that ISR activity in the area is close to zero.
As NATO has left Ukrainians on their own to fight blind. So it appears on the surface.

What? “Intriguing.”?
WTF would it be “Intriguing”? Why would there by NATO AWACS planes flying around in Ukraine? They CAN’T.
Are you lusting for World War III?
It’s a very strange thing to say.
Why is it “Intriguing” whirlx?

Posted by: Julian | Jun 10 2023 13:25 utc | 325

from Asia Times
Big development in Ukraine?
Maybe; it depends on what Ukrainian Defense Minister Reznikov meant

There appears to be a potentially big development in Ukraine focused on a negotiated deal with Russia.
“Ukraine is ready for negotiations and a peace agreement,” Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov said – “if Russia changes the previously declared goals of the special military operation.”
His statement came after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited Kherson on June 8th to be updated on the ongoing offensive in the Zaphorize region.
No doubt Zelensky got news that he did not want to hear: The Ukrainian offensive is not going well and Ukrainian army losses have been heavy. The Russians have managed to knock out many Ukrainian tanks, including French-supplied AMX-10s and three front-line German Leopard A-6 models (not the A-4 models transferred from Poland).
The Russians also destroyed the critical Hensoldt TRML-4D AESA radar, part of the Iris-T air defense system that was brought up in range to support Ukraine’s forces in the offensive. Its neutralization has given Russian forces command of the air above the battlefield. . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 10 2023 13:46 utc | 326

After you have successfully propagandized/brainwashed most of the population, the entire intelligentsia, all your junior officers, a majority of your staff officers, every bureaucrat and functionary, the time comes where you have to do something. So now they are doing something.
The propaganda was never much good. There never was much information, just talking points. So of course there was no planning worth spit.
In the West the number who could or would read what those on this page read is very small.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 10 2023 13:53 utc | 327

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 10 2023 13:46 utc | 326
A laughable proposition — “We might surrender on OUR CONDITIONS not yours”.
It’s a pretty transparent gambit by Ukraine to: save its own immanent destruction; lay low for a while while rearming and rebuilding; get into NATO; then counter offensive again only bigger. Just how stupid do they think Putin is?!?!?

Posted by: The Dolphin | Jun 10 2023 14:09 utc | 328

Do the Ukies have lots of (hidden) resources left
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 10 2023 13:10 utc | 320
At Crimea they can only throw missiles and drones. I read there were 2 missiles for today. Launched from Odessa and both have failed. For blowing up cars, bridges, buildings, factories, the civilian stuff, there are resources for decades. Who will stop them? The 5 soldiers of the smo?

Posted by: rk | Jun 10 2023 14:10 utc | 329

Pickett’s Charge was as unsuccessful as the Charge of the Light Brigade, but it wasn’t as ill advised. The Charge of the Light Brigade was right into the center of the Russian line and the Russians even had troops on the flanks. (and I think there were canon involved??) Pickett’s Charge was an effort to take (or turn) the flank of the Union army. If I remember correctly, General Lee decided it was ill advised in that it expected that the men could accomplish more than they could, but it wasn’t self evidently stupid right from the start. Perhaps more an act of desperation. The Southern forces were all but used up.

Posted by: Jmaas | Jun 10 2023 14:23 utc | 330

DunGroanin | Jun 10 2023 11:21 utc | 303
H De Breton Moron doesn’t even have an O level and has never stepped foot into a lab in his life.
Guys from dera and now Qinetiq know their stuff but you don’t see any of them turning up in a guardian column for good reason.

Posted by: S.O. | Jun 10 2023 14:27 utc | 331

Don Bacon | Jun 10 2023 13:46 utc | 326
***There appears to be a potentially big development in Ukraine focused on a negotiated deal with Russia.
“Ukraine is ready for negotiations and a peace agreement,” Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov said – “if Russia changes the previously declared goals of the special military operation.”
His statement came after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited Kherson on June 8th to be updated on the ongoing offensive in the Zaphorize region.***
If Russia engages in *any* cease-fire or “negotiations” at all, then Russia is both stupid and self-defeated.
Only the ultimate eradication of NATO politicians and forces will offer any genuine prospect of peace.
Because these fanatics will *never* stop trying to destroy Russia — and any other country attempting to retain or regain independence from the US-empire and its masters.
Just look at the socially and psychologically devastating wokist / LGBT+++ / monopoly-capitalist / fake-green NATO agenda … it isn’t a ruse, they’ve already been inflicting it on the societies over which they aready have dictatorship — the rulers of the West really are a collection of seriously unhinged degenerates intent on inflicting their cultism worldwide.
Absolutely *no* compromise is possible.

Posted by: Cynic | Jun 10 2023 14:31 utc | 332

330 – Lee reckoned the Union flanks had been reinforced, leaving the centre weak. He had no proof of this, though, it was an assumption he made.

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 10 2023 14:31 utc | 333

Some may consider this satirical piece in poor taste but I believe it will help bring some much needed levity to the current tragedy in Ukraine:
Coffins sold separately
Some suggestion of an excellent educational and coping tool for the legions of “war children” now being born …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 10 2023 14:47 utc | 334

334 – They should do an “Action Zelensky”. “Action Zelensky – turning his country into prey for the machinations of George Soros and the New World Order. What does he do if it all goes wrong? Cocaine…”

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 10 2023 14:56 utc | 335

Then there’s the question of sustainment – where do they go to refuel (assuming they survive the first sortie)? Look up the range and fuel consumption of any Western fighter especially in a dogfight with an opponent.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 10 2023 7:24 utc | 240
I did look up the range of western fighter jets!!!
The f-16 has a range of 1600 miles on the internal tanks, 2300 miles if you add the drop tanks, and have the ability to be refueled in the air. other western fighter jets have similar ranges. it is about 1000 miles from Berlin to the front lines, a distance EASILY achieved by western jets.
you should really look up ALL the features and abilities of a weapon before you make idiotic statements like
“Western jets can’t reach Ukraine” SMFH

Posted by: Oldcutlas | Jun 10 2023 15:09 utc | 336

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 10 2023 14:56 utc | 335
There lies a whole new YouTube genre for someone short on employment opportunities …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 10 2023 15:20 utc | 337

About to watch Brian Berletic
Ukraine’s Offensive Begins: Burning NATO Equipment vs. Layered Russian Defenses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4eyW_87Z74
>… Ukraine’s long-awaited offensive has begun, including all types of NATO-provided armor and weapons.
And WEEB Union
Turning Point?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Rx_N652Y0
Sped thru WillyOAM earlier.
Poor bastard. The cognitive dissonance is eating him.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2023 15:24 utc | 339

About to watch Brian Berletic
Ukraine’s Offensive Begins: Burning NATO Equipment vs. Layered Russian Defenses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4eyW_87Z74
>… Ukraine’s long-awaited offensive has begun, including all types of NATO-provided armor and weapons.
And WEEB Union
Turning Point?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Rx_N652Y0
Sped thru WillyOAM earlier.
Poor bastard. The cognitive dissonance is eating him.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2023 15:25 utc | 340

Then there’s the question of sustainment – where do they go to refuel (assuming they survive the first sortie)? Look up the range and fuel consumption of any Western fighter especially in a dogfight with an opponent.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 10 2023 7:24 utc | 240
They have the air to air missiles developed to such a point that the traditional dogfight is not going to be common. At least that is what it looks like.

Posted by: Jmaas | Jun 10 2023 15:28 utc | 341

> Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 10 2023 13:10 utc | 320
SFrom.net service (i suggest against installing any software form their, but as URL unwrapper it is fine) reveals this link to download the video file directly
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1667392886650880000/pu/vid/576×320/MseW-jD0Iac90gze.mp4?tag=12
Watch it in AviDemux or VirtualDubMod frame by frame.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1D2YHG4B-CAQEdD-rDy57Aw457VJdUnK4?usp=drive_link
I stand by my initial impression – that was not friendly fire. As much as i would love to laught at inept kokhols in general, i’d still rather call spade a spade.

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 10 2023 15:40 utc | 342

Maybe; it depends on what Ukrainian Defense Minister Reznikov meant
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 10 2023 13:46 utc | 326
What an ukronazi says has no value, it has absolutely no meaning and no importance. Propaganda stuff for the west: see how we are ready for peace. Big lie. Russia was vaccinated by the Minsk agreements.

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 15:44 utc | 343

Posted by: Martina | Jun 9 2023 23:09 utc | 145
“After all, the U.S. joined the 2nd World War when it became clear that the Soviets were going to take care of Germany and its allies with or without U.S. intervention.”
The U.S. officially declared war on Germany 12/11/1941. Around 12/2/1941 German army detachments were in the suburbs of Moscow, which leads me to doubt your claim that U.S. leadership had already decided that the Soviets would beat Germany and its allies. Please show us where the U.S. leadership expressed your viewpoint at that time.

Posted by: morongobill | Jun 10 2023 16:03 utc | 344

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2023 15:25 utc | 340

Sped thru WillyOAM earlier.
Poor bastard. The cognitive dissonance is eating him.

Can’t stand the guy. Sounds like a confused pomeranian with a throat condition on the best of days.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 10 2023 16:03 utc | 345

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 15:20 utc | 338
Any translation? Unfortunately I don’t speak Klingon.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 10 2023 16:06 utc | 346

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 10 2023 16:06 utc | 346
“Myclimate’s controversial installation has been up in Bern since Thursday. Wednesday was eventful: a woman destroyed the screen showing Putin struggling for air, Rösti’s DETEC department reprimanded the post office for its cooperation, and the latter ordered the activists to remove the internal mailbox.”

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:10 utc | 347

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/04/18/ukraine-russia-war-counteroffensive-attack-bakhmut-himars/
I’m confused, when do we start the clock?
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/significant-ukraine-offensive-penetrates-first-094037351.html
A new metric of gauging success. ‘Ukrainian forces have “likely made good progress” and “penetrated the first line of Russian defences”. The, ‘give them the benefit of the doubt’ analytical method favoured during military operations. Strange, I thought all these Western AFV’s had GPS and Blue Force Tracker systems, so I’m surprised they cannot be more precise. I really wish I could inject this technique of assumptive precision into my own life.
Also note the highly elastic term ‘first line of Russian defences’, and the inability to determine if armoured columns, with minimal AD, have been affected by intensive air strikes. Finally, wonder of wonders, it’s the Russians who are suffering casualties in their minefields, not the Ukrainians.

Posted by: Milites | Jun 10 2023 16:13 utc | 348

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:10 utc | 347
Excellent. Common people are not completely deceived by their ruler’s lies …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 10 2023 16:14 utc | 349

Posted by: Comandante | Jun 10 2023 3:42 utc | 198
Commandante, Snowden in the last day or so tweeted this:
“It’s hard to feel sorry for a man who had four years in the White House to reform that broken system and instead left it in place to the detriment of the American public. He is caught within the same gears his own hands once turned,” Snowden tweeted.
I voted for Trump but I agree with you on this, karma is a bitch.

Posted by: morongobill | Jun 10 2023 16:15 utc | 350

Posted by: Milites | Jun 10 2023 16:13 utc | 348

A new metric of gauging success. ‘Ukrainian forces have “likely made good progress” and “penetrated the first line of Russian defences”.

I hope they didn’t forget to include the obligatory … could not be verified by independent sources on the ground

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 10 2023 16:17 utc | 351

https://t.me/boriskarpovblog/11467
“A Ka-52 “Alligators” defeated a column of NATO armored vehicles during the enemy attack on the Zaporozhye front.
▪️Images of the destruction of Western tanks and other armored vehicles by Ka-52 reconnaissance and attack helicopter crews in the direction of Zaporozhye
▪️Les army aviation crews launched a guided missile strike on a column of enemy armored vehicles. After the destruction of several armored vehicles, the others tried to disperse and were also destroyed.”
deepl translation from French.

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:18 utc | 352

@Milites 348
Ukrainian forces have “likely made good progress” …shame MSM didn’t embed with Ukraine forces to show these heros (or costs of lies) first hand.

Posted by: Mercury | Jun 10 2023 16:25 utc | 353

Pigeon shootings:
https://t.me/boriskarpovblog/11482
“The threat of NATO equipment: drones for 30,000 knock out Leopard tanks worth millions of euros while repelling Ukrainian Armed Forces attacks on the Zaporizhzhya front.
For the first time, images are published: FPV kamikaze drones from the 42nd Division near Orekhovo hit German Leopard tanks.
Beaver fighters have burned and knocked out a host of American and German “supertechniques”, repelling the enemy’s offensive in recent days.”
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:27 utc | 354

The Germans and the MSM still flogging the idea that a Polish Yacht was responsible for NordStream.
“The probe by Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office is examining why the yacht they believe was used to carry out the operation journeyed into Polish waters,” WSJ wrote in a Saturday investigative report. “Other findings suggest Poland was a hub for the logistics and financing of last September’s undersea sabotage attack that severed the strongest bond tying Berlin to Moscow.”

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Jun 10 2023 16:30 utc | 355

Pigeon shootings (2):
https://t.me/boriskarpovblog/11475
“Selected plans for the destruction of enemy tanks by strike drones during the repulsion of an offensive on the Zaporozhye front
Nazi tanks advancing under the cover of a forest belt were detected by Russian FPV drone operators and destroyed by strike drones.”
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:30 utc | 356

Posted by: morongobill | Jun 10 2023 16:15 utc | 350
Clever, clever Tweet that bears no real relationship to the reality I watched unfold on a daily basis, even before he had taken the Oath of Office. It also shows a surprising ignorance of the limitations of executive power, when the immune system of the State has declared you a ‘foreign body’. What is truly remarkable is how much he achieved in those four years, especially opening people’s eyes to the true nature of the corrupt institutions, Obama had created and ‘bequeathed’ him.

Posted by: Milites | Jun 10 2023 16:31 utc | 357

Results of pigeon shootings:
https://t.me/boriskarpovblog/11470
“NATO armored vehicle graveyard on the Zaporozhye front grows: our soldiers burned Bradley in enemy attack
An addition to yesterday’s images from the site of the enemy’s massive loss of new equipment from the USA and Germany, introduced for the first time in the battle. Previously there were doubts – if the enemy couldn’t remove the abandoned armor, now we know for sure – they couldn’t.
The soldiers of the 58th Army Group [V] destroyed American and German armored vehicles. Perhaps part of the trophy.”
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:33 utc | 358

Oldcutlas | Jun 10 2023 15:09 utc | 336
in contested airpsace there is no one vector at ‘economic cruise’ altitude involved.
the ranges you state are ‘ferry ranges’, the f-16 has no weapons to get those ranges!
when an f-16 flies from usa to europe at least two refuelers are involved over the ocean.
usaf/nato aerial refuelers are large, slow and easy to shoot from 300 km away….

Posted by: paddy | Jun 10 2023 16:36 utc | 359

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:30 utc | 356
Are those crude electromagnetic coils, at the front? If so, is that to give the drones rudimentary top-attack capability? I notice sometimes the feed cuts out when the drone is beginning to over-fly the target.

Posted by: Milites | Jun 10 2023 16:42 utc | 360

paddy | Jun 10 2023 16:36 utc | 359
If NATO does decide to use the exercises as cover they will have to go in big. No point in sending just a few planes to get shot down.

Posted by: dh | Jun 10 2023 16:44 utc | 361

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:33 utc | 358
I counted 11 tanks destroyed on that video alone like they were toys and not armoured vehicles.

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:45 utc | 362

Posted by: Milites | Jun 10 2023 16:42 utc | 360
Sorry, I do not have the technical skills to answer your questions. Hopefully someone here will be able to.

Posted by: Quo Vadis | Jun 10 2023 16:48 utc | 363

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 10 2023 14:31 utc | 333
Lee could thank J.E.B. Stuart for that. Lee’s cavalry failed him.

Posted by: morongobill | Jun 10 2023 17:00 utc | 364

Thanks Milities for your insightful comment regarding the Snowden quote.

Posted by: morongobill | Jun 10 2023 17:04 utc | 365

@ paddy Jun 10 2023 16:36 utc | 359
those are actually “mission” and “ferry” ranges I quoted. the “ferry” range is with the drop tanks, but the drop tanks can be used in the opening of a mission to extend range.
a western jet can refuel over Poland mid-air, fly a mission anywhere into Ukraine, and return to Polish airspace to refuel or land in Poland.
the logistics aren’t that difficult if you stop and think about it for half a minute and know how to do math.
this isn’t to say that I think the NATO exercises are going to morph into an attack on Russia, I think NATO knows it can’t beat Russia on it’s doorstep, but the logistics of flying sorties over Ukraine from Germany isn’t impossible, or really even very difficult.
and this doesn’t include long range bombers, which would be far more likely to be used than fighter jets to attack Russian positions.

Posted by: Oldcutlas | Jun 10 2023 17:16 utc | 366

morongobill@344
Germany declared war on the USA, honouring its commitment to Japan. the US was therefore already at war with Germany when it made a declaration.
Martina@45 has a point, though. While the USA was at war with Germany it did not actually commit troops to the war in Europe until the November 1942 assault on French North Africa, during the battle of Alamein and while the Red Army was hanging on to the ruins of Stalingrad.
But these are just coincidences- the decision to carry out Operation Torch had been made long before the battle of Stalingrad had begun.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 10 2023 17:19 utc | 367

With recon drones all over the place, you have to keep moving, keep way apart, and use immediate counter battery attacks.
If they can’t attack any better than this, they need to build heavy defense positions and make the enemy attack them, if that’s even possible.

Posted by: xeno | Jun 10 2023 17:39 utc | 368

ostro 99
Quote “Succeed and Western military and economic aid will flow. Stumble or fail to meet expectations, and that support will likely dry up, sparking heightened calls for an expedited diplomatic resolution and hampering ”
Not at all it is not USA or Ukraine which has plotted this war and is feeling the conflict more and more it is usual evil English race which has done this war like all wars before.coward English plot wars but stand afar till two parties have massacred themselves as in world wars and then pirate English will jump into frat physically that is why sadly English had dead only 400 thousands while Germans and Russians had tens of millions
Here English spy agency has been running the war while the English scum-bags are left safe in London because if Putin’s folly to tolerate all English provocation .so war will go on until Russia bombs and kills English spy agents which include all English journalists as well

Posted by: Sam | Jun 10 2023 18:45 utc | 369

@367
A Dutch relative of mine was married to an “Obersturmführer”. He disappeared at the end of the war in the Balkans, possibly summarily executed. She had cause to regret the marriage and became interned in a post-war Dutch concentration camp where she was treated awfully. But the point is, in 1941 already he told her that the Germans knew they would lose the war. They kept on fighting, what else to do? The Americans knew this too, without a doubt, but kept profiting, and selling the Germans diesel until 1943, while also selling the Russians tanks and trucks. I pity the poor American soldiers who died then in Europe, but their masters were quite as perverse as now.

Posted by: Anthony | Jun 10 2023 18:57 utc | 370

What if military victory is not on the agenda? Ukraine always was good at people trafficking. A lots of dead young guys means a lots of young girls forced to do sex work. Also, there is organ trafficking.

Posted by: mataj | Jun 10 2023 19:10 utc | 371

Prigozhin today (from RSTM):
We publish the answer of Yevgeny Prigozhin:
“And I give the same loud signal to everyone who wants to hear it. I have very serious personal ambitions, excessive personal ambitions, to live in a country called Great Russia. Because Great Russia is a country that dictates conditions to the whole world, and does not flow sluggishly with the current into the dark abyss, into the abyss, at the behest of gorged bureaucrats and the deep state that plunders and plunders it. Therefore, I had, still have, and will continue to have personal ambitions.
When we took Bakhmut, I had no personal ambitions. No. It was necessary to save the Russian army, to save its honor. And the fighters of the PMC “Wagner”took Bakhmut. And if you answer this question accurately, you should write in bold letters: “Yevgeny Prigozhin is not the person who took Bakhmut.” Delete this word from history. Evgeny Prigozhin did not take Bakhmut. Bakhmut was taken by the fighters of the Wagner PMC – the same Russian soldiers as those who are now dying and performing heroic feats in Zaporozhye, with all the problems and difficulties that they have. And that’s why personal ambition is a Great Russia. Great work for the benefit of this Russia. And for the good of this Russia, we must all unite one hundred percent for the sake of a great victory.”
Well, there you have it, Russia in WO II mode again, going strong…
Meanwhile, another positive thing: in Belgium, De Croo’s party (he’s prime minister and member of the WEF) catastrophically plummets in ratings. Propaganda is one thing, economic reality another.

Posted by: Anthony | Jun 10 2023 20:21 utc | 372

Posted by: Oldcutlas | Jun 10 2023 15:09 utc | 336
Ridiculous.
Look up “radius of action”…
From Wikipedia:

In military aviation, the combat radius of an aircraft is often given with its mission profile (without in-air refueling). For example:
The F-16 Fighting Falcon’s combat radius is 550 km (340 mi) on a hi-lo-hi mission with six 450 kg (1,000 lb) bombs.
The F/A-18 Hornet has a combat radius of 537 km (330 mi) on a hi-lo-lo-hi mission.
The radius of action of an aircraft is always smaller than its maximum range (a. k. a. combat range), the furthest distance the aircraft can fly with maximum payload and without refueling, or ferry range, the furthest distance the aircraft can fly with drop tanks, no load or ordnance and without refueling. The rule of thumb is that the radius of action is one-third the distance an aircraft can fly in a straight line on a full load of fuel. In military aviation, this assumes a trip out and back, plus one-third of fuel for combat operations.[2]

And if you doubt Wikipedia, listen to the US Air Force:
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104505/f-16-fighting-falcon/
“In an air-to-surface role, the F-16 can fly more than 500 miles (860 kilometers)”
Again, sustainment is a problem. Of course, the worse problem is Russian AD and the Russian Air Force.
Russian long-range radar will see any significant number of planes coming well before those planes are in operational range of Russian territory and the Russian Air Force will rise to meet them. Russian S-400 AD can hit them at up to 400km. Russian R-37 air-to-air missile can hit them up to 398km. So the bulk of those planes will be shot down before they reach Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, let alone Crimea.
Enough with the bullshit NATO exercises, already!

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 10 2023 20:29 utc | 373

RSH @ 373 Don’t forget the long-range bombers. If HIMARS don’t work and sending F16s in is too risky bring on the B52s. Time for some good old-fashioned carpet bombing.

Posted by: dh | Jun 10 2023 21:54 utc | 374

SwissArmyMan | Jun 10 2023 16:30 utc | 355
NS2 and suspicious Polish yachts. Given the gullibility of western corporate media consumers, it’s probably not too late to find an incriminating waterproof passport in situ.
xeno | Jun 10 2023 17:39 utc | 368
they need to build heavy defense positions and make the enemy attack them…
That’d be called errr…Mariupol, Soledar, … Bakhmut.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2023 22:55 utc | 375

“Mikael Valtersson was a defense politician for the Sweden Democrats. That’s a right wing and nationalist party, Sweden’s equivalent to Azov.”
Hilarious, leftist. “Inkan1969.” The Swedish Democrats oppose the mass immigration to Sweden that the socialists use to gain election victories. Without mass immigration the social democrats and communists wouldn’t have won a single election after the 1990s, as research shows.
Are you really so dumb you think Russia would accept mass immigration that floods the country with Arabs, Afghans, Africans and Kurds, until 20% of the population consists of these foreigners? Who commit every single gang rape in Sweden, an unknown crime before that, and the majority of murders and rapes, and all drug crimes. Who attack the Whites in the schools while the socialist teachers ignore the bullying and violence – the immigrants even invade classrooms during classes, with the teachers not allowed to ever punish them, as per socialist policy. And who use guns and hand grenades from former Warzaw Bloc countries to attack each other in their drug wars, and even blow up buildings in those attacks. Who are then let out of prison after only a few years by socialist-appointed judges.
Sweden now has the highest rape rate in the world outside a war zone. Higher than even African countries. Where before Sweden was one of the most peaceful countries in the world.
You seriously think Russia would accept that? Or Turkey? Or Iran? Or China? Or Taiwan? Or Japan? I guess they’re all AZOV then. In the mind of a dumb socialist like you.
The VAST MAJORITY of nationalist parties and organizations in Europe opposed the 2014 coup. They saw the “nationalists” in Ukraine taking part in that coup as sellouts, supporting a Biden-financed takeover that put non-Ukrainians in charge. The groups back then, like Svoboda, only took part in the coup because they were the muscle the leftists lacked, and this was in exchange for the leaders getting government jobs, as they lacked jobs and pensions.
Nationalists in Germany, Britain, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Greece, Hungary and more openly opposed that coup.
But your fellow socialists applauded it. The social democrats all over Europe, and the Democrats in Washington, applauced the coup, and they support Azov today. So who are on Azov’s side, buddy?

Posted by: Tenet | Jun 11 2023 1:50 utc | 376

re: Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 10 2023 8:40
When was the last time the HIMARS was mentioned?
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Daily. Including today when it was targeting trench lines. This ain’t me saying wonder weapon or even disagreeing with most of what you otherwise wrote, this me just letting you know HIMARS get mentioned daily in reports from the various fronts and in the MOD daily briefings, not a day usually passes without strikes and interceptions from said systems being “talked about”.
Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2023 10:03 utc | 275
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Left out the best part… the “thieves” threw the four “crates” into the lake nearby, ie I doubt they were thieves as much as basically a protest\stunt that got interrupted/stopped before more could be tossed – but they can’t report that, cause that would give other protestors ideas.
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That’s a pretty brave investment, to invest hundreds of millions or even billions on a tank factory in Ukraine.
Posted by: unimperator | Jun 10 2023 10:42 utc | 293
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Yeah I saw that, I don’t think that’s actually gonna happen, they might try it on the poland side of the border (even if it’s only 1km) but it will not be inside ukraine for obvious reasons, it will be destroyed (but not till they’ve wasted time and money getting it almost operational and staffed), assuming the whole thing isn’t just bs to begin with.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 11 2023 4:05 utc | 377

Ukrainian forces have “likely made good progress” …shame MSM
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They do this all the time with every topic they are trying to hype or otherwise get a headline with.
weasel words
“likely” “could” “may be” “may have”…ie they can always said well we didn’t say it did happen or that it was the truth, only that it was ‘likely’, or that it ‘could’, or that it ‘might have’. It’s cropped up a ton more in headline in the last 10-15 years a MSM stopped worrying even remotely about reputation and just want the clicks or headline to get picked up.
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Enough with the bullshit NATO exercises, already!
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 10 2023 20:29 utc
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Amen to that, talk about beating a dead horse (seems a pastime here), it if happens it happens but till then jhfc peeps should give it a rest.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 11 2023 4:18 utc | 378

What if military victory is not on the agenda? Ukraine always was good at people trafficking. A lots of dead young guys means a lots of young girls forced to do sex work. Also, there is organ trafficking.
Posted by: mataj | Jun 10 2023 19:10 utc
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Plenty is on the agenda, the $$ related to that game as well no doubt, though it’s childs-play (pun intended) in profits compared to most everything else going on with this conflict.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 11 2023 4:23 utc | 379

RE: unimperator | Jun 10 2023 7:11 utc | 236

Rheinmetall CEO just acknowledged the Leopard 2 panzers were destroyed without firing a shot. He also said that Ukraine can only receive correct type of ammunition if EUronato countries release their ammunition stockpiles to Ukraine.

Why would they need ammo? They have fallen without firing a shot.

Posted by: scanalyse | Jun 11 2023 8:36 utc | 380

reply to Tenet | Jun 11 2023 1:50 utc | 376 ….
So why, in all of the Western countries you claim are misruled by “socialists” and “communists”, has everything either already been “privatised” or is being sold-off?
Asset-stripping by US backed, trained and enforced political prostitutes, all for the benefit of Oligarchs and foreign corporate interests — the interests of monopoly capitalism.
Could it be that the specific political terms you (and maybe themselves and their supporters) attach to the traitors, wreckers, perverts and criminals, are deliberately misleading … merely hijacked and functionally inverted historical flags of convenience?
Are we, for instance, supposed to think that Soros and BlackRock, plus the US/NATO-empire, are somehow “socialist” entities?

Posted by: Cynic | Jun 11 2023 13:30 utc | 381

Enough with the bullshit NATO exercises, already!
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 10 2023 20:29 utc | 373
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Amen!
Praise the Lord and pass the ammo!

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 11 2023 13:36 utc | 382

abrogard | Jun 10 2023 9:32 utc | 268

it say ‘1 episode’. Is it the full film and if not where do we get further episodes?

The second part is here..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbruWic6JzA&t=0s
If the first part is a drama and based on real historical events, the second part is a fiction and a comedy of sorts — the story of its characters in exile after the war.
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The Flight (Russian: Бег) is a 1970 Soviet historical drama film, mainly based on writer Mikhail Bulgakov’s play Flight, but also on his novel The White Guard and his libretto Black Sea. It is … the story of a group of White refugees from the Russian Civil War, eking out an existence in Istanbul and Paris in the 1920s. The 1971 Cannes Film Festival.
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UGcyweYo2w
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbruWic6JzA&t=0s

Posted by: Nomad | Jun 12 2023 18:13 utc | 383

Posted by: js | Jun 9 2023 20:04 utc | 75
As old stocks of 152mm/155mm artillery rounds have depleted, we have seen much more usage of newer 2K25 Krasnopol rounds. They fire from yhe same 152/155mm artillery pieces, but are fin-stabilised and laser-guided.
May explain some of the increased success rate at tank busting.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 12 2023 22:49 utc | 384