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May 4, 2023
Zelenski’s Regime Is Finished

Yesterday's drone attack on the Kremlin (and other installations) mark the end of the Zelenski regime. While Russia had so far refrained from regime change in Kiev it will now have to pursue it.

The former prime minister of Israel Naftali Bennet had reported that president Putin had promised him not to hit Zelenski:

“I knew Zelensky was under threat, in a bunker… I said to [Putin], ‘Do you intend to kill Zelensky?’ He said, ‘I won’t kill Zelensky,’” Bennett recalled in the interview, which was published on his own YouTube channel.

Bennett said he called the Ukrainian president immediately after the three-hour encounter with Putin, and told him, “I’ve just come out of a meeting — [Putin] is not going to kill you.

“[Zelensky] asked me, ‘Are you sure?’ I said 100 percent. [Putin’s] not going to kill you.”

Bennett recalled: “Two hours later, Zelensky went to his office, and did a selfie in the office, [in which the Ukrainian president said,] ‘I’m not afraid.’”

Well, now he has very good reason to again be afraid, very afraid. As former ambassador MK Bhadrakumar writes:

Make no mistake, this is a tipping point; the clumsy attempt on Putin’s life jolts the kaleidoscope beyond recognition. The only comforting thought is that the Kremlin leadership is not going to be driven by emotion. The considered Kremlin reaction is available from the remarks by the Russian Ambassador to the US, Anatoly Antonov:

“How would Americans react if a drone hit the White House, the Capitol or the Pentagon? The answer is obvious for any politician as well as for an average citizen: the punishment will be harsh and inevitable.”

The ambassador went on to draw the bottom line: “Russia will respond to this insolent and presumptuous terrorist attack. We will answer when we consider it necessary. We will answer in accordance with the assessments of the threat that Kiev posed to the leadership of our country.”

I agree with Bhadrakumar that there will be no knee-jerk reaction from Moscow. But public opinion in Russia demands that there will be payback for the attack and against anyone involved in it.

Putin’s hands are tied beyond a point when the country is in rage and demanding retribution, as evident from the comments by former Russian President and current Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev: “After today’s terrorist attack, there are no options left except for the physical elimination of Zelensky and his clique.”

That Zelenski fled to Finland, then to the Netherlands and Germany after the drones hit the Kremlin is a sure sign of his complicity in the act.

When (if?) he comes back to Kiev it will be bunker life for the rest of his reign.

Comments

StirThePot | May 4 2023 19:53 utc | 93–
I’m simply enormously grateful to Russia for having stepped up to the [plate] and put a substantial (and so far effective) bar between the spokes of the U.S.’s many-decades-long misbehavior.
Absolutely and very long overdue.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 4 2023 20:10 utc | 101

ZH has a posting up with the title
White House Rejects Kremlin Statement US “Undoubtedly” Behind Drone Attack On Kremlin
The quote

The White House denial of involvement was firm, quick, and brief. “White House national security spokesman John Kirby told MSNBC television the Russian claims were false, and that Washington does not encourage or enable Ukraine to strike outside its borders,” Reuters writes.

To my knowledge Russia has yet to strike outside Ukraine borders but Ukraine has repeatedly struck into Russia and this latest shows the level of desperation behind empire/US
This ongoing goading by empire shows the moral vacuum that the God Of Mammon cult has evolved to project. So far, the responses by Russia have been of the thousand cut variety with a couple of NATO HQ in Ukraine events to show Russia’s potential.
It seems that Russia is neutering all offensive attempts by Ukraine which begs the question of what is next?
What will Putin be able to report on May 9th? Will it say anything about the Russia military activity in the next 4-5 days? I wouldn’t want to be anywhere in Ukraine right now and chicken-shit Z reflects that reality.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 4 2023 20:10 utc | 102

The furious advocacy for revenge (which by itself casts doubts on the many iterations of the “everything is under control” formula) expressed by our esteemed commentators, obviously raises some ethical issues, but we just move on.
The point is, what makes our author convinced that Russia has any technical capability to decapitate the Ukrainian regime TODAY? (As opposed to the start of the SMO)
Previous American experiences, in conditions of much stricter control over the area of operation, suggest that it would be extremely difficult.
And no, Kinzhal and Zircon do not really matter…

Posted by: MoaMetal | May 4 2023 20:11 utc | 103

LightYearsFromHome | May 4 2023 19:03 utc | 72
“I’ll say it again, he’s The Nose in the Woody Allen movie Sleeper, or, maybe the dismembered Penis in a movie yet to made.”
very interesting analogy. I have been fixated on that part of that movie, as I believe it best describes the Artificially Induced adulation of Joe Biden that may well end up as that movie indicates. I wouldnt give Zelensky the benefit of real endurance. a throwaway pawn under another queens knickers ala All you ever wanted to know…
Pretty sure a TV movie about John Wayne Bobbit or some porn parody has been made, but a remake or reboot seems inevitable.
Perhaps the pianis will wind up on display in a jar like local legends of notorious figures.

Posted by: Not Ewe | May 4 2023 20:11 utc | 104

Posted by: watcher | May 4 2023 20:02 utc | 97
Joe is not coming, still probably peeved at his power-play backfiring last time, resulting in him sitting at the back of the Abbey. He also is likely grounded because his drug regime only allows certain windows of lucidity and they cannot risk him wandering around talking to non-existent people, or blurting out the truth, I.e “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.” Imagine what he might say about Ukraine, if ambushed by a reporter, actually reporting and not slavishly following their cue cards?

Posted by: Milites | May 4 2023 20:18 utc | 105

Posted by: Milites | May 4 2023 19:57 utc | 95
False historical analogy.
The Katyn massacre was no false flag attack designed to accuse the wrong ones; the Soviets tried to hide it, and only when the bodies were detected by Polish forced workers (working for the Nazis) they claimed the Nazis did it.
Russians are certainly no better people than Germans or Americans or whoever in principle. My point is that false flag attacks are a special development of the Anglo-American power structures with its mighty three letter agencies.

Posted by: mk | May 4 2023 20:20 utc | 106

This isn’t Russia talking. This should have been Russia talking since (the several) tragedies of torturing and murdering Russian troops. More than a year ago. This, too, will pass?

Posted by: Elmagnostic | May 4 2023 20:22 utc | 107

Well, it’s pretty safe to say that the primary reasons for the drone strike in Kremlin were desperation of lack of success for the counter offensive and morale booster for the grunts and mercs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiOHts3u1bU

Posted by: unimperator | May 4 2023 20:23 utc | 108

Medvedev: Borrell spoke out against using the attack on the Kremlin for a possible further escalation of the conflict.
Brazen old fool.
It is precisely to the escalation of the conflict that the terrorist attack committed by the Kyiv authorities under the leadership of the United States and approved by the leadership of the EU will lead. This is exactly what Washington and many dumb people in Brussels want.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/44522

Posted by: Norwegian | May 4 2023 20:23 utc | 109

Ukrainian regime is far from defeated.
We see that The Netherlands promised F16 planes today.
So unfortunately this war is going to last longer.

Posted by: Srbin | May 4 2023 20:23 utc | 110

Posted by: watcher | May 4 2023 20:02 utc | 97

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 4 2023 20:23 utc | 111

I’m sure Putin is fuming. Jinping taps on the shoulder, shakes his head, “patience dear friend.”

Imo Vlad sincerely (naively, even almost in a fanboy sort of way) wanted to be friends with “the west” for a good 20 years. I am happy that he has found a good friend.

Posted by: Rae | May 4 2023 20:24 utc | 112

The precedent is….. U.S/NATO is using Ukraine to attack Russia….the world’s richest Nation that is not under Central Bank control…..and Anglo Zionist controllers need constant conflicts to support their unsustainable Fiat based economy…U.S attacked the nordstream pipeline…..it attacked the Kerch bridge…it reconfigured the Soviet era recce drones to hit targets deep in territorial Russia….it sunk the Moscva…. incrementally trying to get Russia to commit to outright war. I don’t think Russia will bite. Without knowing the type of drone and payload the idea this was a psychological or bonafide assassination attempt is speculative at this point. Precedent on Russian reaction….the destruction of NATO bunker in Lviv after the attack on the Russian village will be the formula Followed I suspect.

Posted by: Joe | May 4 2023 20:25 utc | 113

watcher | May 4 2023 20:02 utc | 97
I think Operation Splatt is a great idea. One problem, though, is that a hyper-sonic missile, even one just filled with paint, is likely to do a lot of lethal damage.

Posted by: Boris Badenov | May 4 2023 20:26 utc | 114

Posted by: watcher | May 4 2023 20:02 utc | 97
Now I don’t know what happened there, some curious occurrence with the forum software.
What I typed, and intended to post, was the following:
Your post reminded me of this: Pieing

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 4 2023 20:27 utc | 115

Posted by: Srbin | May 4 2023 20:23 utc | 110
I think Ukraine conveniently depleted huge portion of Mig-29 and Su-24/Su-25. So very soon there won’t be anything but US aircraft alone which pretty much all firepower of Russia is targeting, I’m sure the Pentagram will be pleased with the “marketing” they will be receiving.

Posted by: unimperator | May 4 2023 20:29 utc | 116

You said Bakhmut was gonna fall two months ago. Wrong then, wrong now.
This was a not even a professionally executed false-flag…it was as amateurish as the rest of the “SMO”.
And quoting Medvedev? Well that gets a “Lol”. The guy who has been spewing unhinged craziness from jump is your go-to guy for a quote?
Keep gorging on Russian propaganda, what could go wrong? I mean just go back and read your posts over the last year, embarrassing is too kind a word to describe it.

Posted by: Longhorn | May 4 2023 20:37 utc | 117

@Steve | May 4 2023 18:23 utc | 57
Sorry, Europeans no longer have the guts to revolt against their colonialism and oppresion. No hope from that area, not now at least.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 4 2023 19:40 utc | 88
I guess you missed the 2+ million protesting in the streets of Paris a couple of days ago.

I’m very sorry, but these 2 million people were not demonstrating against the colonialism of their government, or even against the oppression that the French state is inflicting on millions of Africans, for example.
They were not demonstrating against the war either, and in fact even the French Communist Party denounces the Russian aggression against Ukraine. They were not demonstrating against the Covid hysteria and now they have rushed to the vaccine just to be able to continue to go to the restaurant. No. Unfortunately they are only demonstrating to continue to receive their percentage of the world’s plunder.
They don’t want a new multilateral world.
They only want nothing to change.
They are demonstrating to continue to be part of the golden billion.
Reactionary.
And for that they are ready to elect Macron for the next 20 years and lick VonderLeyen as long as they get enough to go to MacDonald’s on Sunday with their families.

Posted by: La Bastille | May 4 2023 20:39 utc | 118

“Oceania has never attacked on East Asia Territory. Oceania has never called for attavs on East Asia” – Winston Smith

Posted by: Comandante | May 4 2023 20:40 utc | 119

Hi,Norwegian

@Steve | May 4 2023 18:23 utc | 57
Sorry, Europeans no longer have the guts to revolt against their colonialism and oppresion. No hope from that area, not now at least.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 4 2023 19:40 utc | 88
I guess you missed the 2+ million protesting in the streets of Paris a couple of days ago.

I’m very sorry, but these 2 million people were not demonstrating against the colonialism of their government, or even against the oppression that the French state is inflicting on millions of Africans, for example.
They were not demonstrating against the war either, and in fact even the French Communist Party denounces “the Russian aggression against Ukraine”.
They were not demonstrating against the Covid hysteria and they have rushed to the vaccine just to be able to continue to go to the restaurant.
No.
Unfortunately they are only demonstrating to continue to receive their percentage of the world’s plunder.
They don’t want a new multilateral world.
They only want nothing to change.
They are demonstrating to continue to be part of the golden billion.
Reactionary.
And for that they are ready to elect Macron for the next 20 years and lick VonderLeyen as long as they get enough to go to MacDonald’s on Sunday with their families.

Posted by: La Bastille | May 4 2023 20:42 utc | 120

If you have a rat problem, it does not help to just kill half the rats.
Posted by: G wiltek | May 4 2023 16:16 utc | 2
Killing all the male rats would help. Sure there are a few girl Ratzis but let’s face it, it is the boy Ratzis who are behind the lion’s share of the violence in that shit culture.

Posted by: nwwoods | May 4 2023 20:44 utc | 121

My point is that false flag attacks are a special development of the Anglo-American power structures with its mighty three letter agencies.
Posted by: mk | May 4 2023 20:20 utc | 106
Another one that has no idea. False-flags have been used throughout history. In fact false-flags have used to justify pretty much every war since at least the Russo-Swedish War of 1788 – Swedes used one as a pretext to attack Russia.
I could go on. They are legion.

Posted by: Longhorn | May 4 2023 20:44 utc | 122

Where to start?
I’ll start writing sorry if it goes on, I often don’t know until I do.
How about with green screen elensky? The hologram Hohol!
He’ll live forever, he has FAME.
He’ll be acting forever, singing and dancing in the rain as he goes along.
You can’t kill a imaginary character anyway. There is no need. He has always been a phantom of the Kiev Opera.
Don’t cry for him Ukranzistan.
You know he never loved you.
He’ll be staring in films and musicals forever. Making special appearances in comics, computer games and cartoons too.
Just like holograms the Abba Experience and manakins of Madam Tussauds in London.
No?
Ok let’s look at the drone on the Kremlin.
If we can remember a week or so back. There have been several drones aimed outside of Moscow. Who was targeted?
I think it was to turn the SMO into a War! To force Chinas hand and set the SCO of course. It’s only a matter of time before one deadlier one comes along..
Is Elenskis droning a suitable and proportional response? As in a duel, ‘choose your weapons’ , take a few steps and take it in turns…
Solemani was got by a missile or was it a drone? The revenge is mighty. The actions in Bakhmut and now the drones on the Kremlin are only doing the business of keeping the Collective Wasters from seeing the Great Change, the fastest loss of Empire ever!
Well what could you expect from one that has been built upon 15 minutes of Fame? A attention span that is now diminished to less than that even.
No?
Is Putins death – it will happen someday, we all will die – going to stop Russians and Russia being themselves?
I really really believe that is an impossibility now, as it has been since before Napoleon was the proxy.
Drones are deadly I suppose, but bombs are better the poor young girl Darya, and the journo… they await their retribution.
But the bullet is the king of Assassins! Not Novichok 😝.
From a few hundred feet at most for a head shot I guess or much closer- ask many a president or king or Prince.
It’s the statement that counts – to set an example – pour encourager l‘autres.
If elensky is going to go in that manner, an honourable death I suppose, not cowardly, he’ll blow his own brains out!
Did Hitler take that route? The closest most reliable bullet!
No?
Then how about all these other actors around him, the minions even minioner then himself. Or the stringpullers and scriptwriters? The directors and cameramen? The shadowy figures. The PR wallahs and the big boys and girls too, who live somewhere high above, somewhere over the rainbow.
Does the retribution for a missed attempt start at the bottom and work up. Or the other way round?
Do the great and invincible invisible mighty evaporate without most ever having known or even heard of them? Letting the rest of us just carry on in our deluded peaceful existences through our lives of slavery?
Blinken,Biden, mr&mrs Kagan, all the murderers, paedos, money grubbers, stinking aristos and the new barons – they are only multi millionaires working for billionaires who are also the grand viziers of the mandarins who play everyone. The bloodline’s they maintain.
There is a bigger game afoot than pesky little snort growler shelenski.
I hate Nazis they must be finally forever exterminated.
There can be no such fascist excessive behaviour in the future human race.
It should be as taboo as cannibalism.
Or incest. The old Caesars and pharaohs went that way in demented dead end gene pool.
That’s where the Nazis and their Masters come from, they just can’t help themselves.
So?
What can we hope for?
Personally I trust the civilised old world to not resort to the barbarism of the New inhumanitants.
Mutants by choice that they insist we in the Collective Waste become.
Let’s not bay for some actors blood , eh?
Not when there are gods to kill.
Form an orderly queue and let’s begin.
🤨

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 4 2023 20:46 utc | 123

Inkan1969 | May 4 2023 17:01 utc | 27

Posted by: young | May 4 2023 17:00 utc | 26
Why would any Jew need to find Jesus Christ as their “savior?…

Why would anybody ?

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | May 4 2023 20:46 utc | 124

LoL false flags.
False flags are used when great powers want to anihilate 3rd world sandal wearing insubordinate nations.
Russia has accused the US. They would not risk nuclear exchange for some PR campaign to rally its people.
Please use your brain matter.

Posted by: Comandante | May 4 2023 20:47 utc | 125

Stoltenberg, head of NATO, is the one who would have ordered this attack. Zelensky is just a pasty

Posted by: Exile | May 4 2023 20:48 utc | 126

Let’s hope that Paula Fox off soon !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | May 4 2023 20:49 utc | 127

Posted by: mk | May 4 2023 20:20 utc | 106
Russians didn’t commit the Katyn atrocity – Bolsheviks did.

Posted by: Exile | May 4 2023 20:52 utc | 128

Flew back to Poland this evening and most likely sleeping in his own bunker bed tonight.
Shameless serie of events today with Russophobe Mark Rutte in the City of Peace, the Hague on the 4th of May … day to commemorate the victims of Nazi Germany, occupation, executions. deportations and the tens of millions of victims of WWII.
Later more …

Posted by: Oui | May 4 2023 20:54 utc | 129

I remember a few years ago Heathrow airport ground to a halt for pretty much a week. Due to the sighting of a drone or two. Big media story, we Englanders love a crises and drama.
The public couldn’t get enough of the story.
. A trade blog I followed at the time some wag posted a Vidio clip taken from a drone going over Heathrow showing all the grounded planes, with a comment … very qiute at Heathrow today, must all be on holiday.
Not very relevant but funny none the less.
More seriously though, the down side of a cheap stunt like the Kremlin drone strike is the paranoid psychosis it results in from all sides, mostly the perpetrators.
Prince charly and his bit of fluff will get stiff necks looking skyward come the coronation.
Mad.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2023 20:55 utc | 130

Just maybe… the drones were deployed by Uke forces from near-border region, were detected by RF air defense in a timely manner, were assessed to be relatively harmless, and were allowed to proceed on to the Kremlin to provide a visual, visceral, but physically harmless “new Pearl Harbor”?

Posted by: pokums | May 4 2023 20:58 utc | 131

@ Srbin | May 4 2023 20:23 utc | 110
We see that The Netherlands promised F16 planes today.
So unfortunately this war is going to last longer.

Well, they promised F-16 only when they get F-35.
Which is in a couple of years, if ever.
By that time the SMO is going to be over and possibly there will be no Ukraine and possibly no NATO.
I do not get why Ukrainians are so horny on F-16. It is an ancient and pretty crappy clonker that Dutch will be more than happy to get rid of.
Dutch have only 20+ of F-16s, flown to the max in Yugoslav Wars, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
F-16 is very expensive to fly per hour and requires a lot of very expensive maintenance, parts and hangar-hours.
It lights up on the modern AD radars as a double-decker bus.
Dutch have few double-seaters that are meant to be nuclear bomb delivery vehicles from mid 80s onwards and out of their Volkel Air Base, where they keep US nukes.
Look-down shoot-down radar is not very effective, and I doubt that Ukraine will get upgraded Israeli versions of the radar and electronics, or some BLOCK 70 features there.
I mean, SU-27 Flanker is a far more superior in comparison to any Dutch F-16.
Even if Ukraine got 200 F-16 that would prolong the SMO for a few hours. 20 or so mean nothing.
And RF’s AD would be very happy to welcome those.
So, as per usual, Zelensky is collecting the trash around Europe.

Posted by: whirlX | May 4 2023 21:06 utc | 132

If Team Biden bails out on Zelenskyy then the media can start dropping suggestions how everyone has been concerned that though America and its allies have given Ukraine more than it needed to defeat Russia, including sanctions, the corruption in Ukraine bled off too much of that aid. And oh, by the way, what are all those young fighting age Ukrainians doing outside of Ukraine?
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/lyndon_b_johnson_400830

We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves.
Lyndon B. Johnson

Senile old Joe gets to do an LBJ imitation, and the media applauds him for saving America from another Viet Nam? What gets said and printed has long ago abandoned a real relationship with truth and reality, so anything is possible. Doubly so in a hyper-partisan environment where gas-lighting yourself is essential to remaining part of the collective.

Posted by: Babel-17 | May 4 2023 21:06 utc | 133

I do not get why Ukrainians are so horny on F-16.
Posted by: whirlX | May 4 2023 21:06 utc | 131

My hypothesis: Air-launched cruise missiles.

Posted by: Mike314159 | May 4 2023 21:09 utc | 134

Posted by: Longhorn | May 4 2023 20:44 utc | 121
Older, the term originates from privateers and pirates flying neutral/friendly flags to allow them to close with their ‘prey’.
Posted by: Exile | May 4 2023 20:52 utc | 127
Germans didn’t start WW2 the Nazis did, same logic, same facile conclusion.

Posted by: Milites | May 4 2023 21:11 utc | 135

Posted by: annie | May 4 2023 16:50 utc | 21
Also, I remember this website boasting that the US’s assassination of Soleimani would be a game changer because of Iranian demand for payback. Since then, not much has changed.
Posted by: Inkan1969 | May 4 2023 16:54 utc | 22
Oh? Iran is now or will soon be a member of BRICS and Iran is contributing to the demise of the U.S. dollar as the worlds reserve currency by joining the growing numbers trading in alternate currencies and surely encouraging others to do the same. Iran is supplying Americas mortal enemy with volumes of incredibly efficient and very inexpensive weapons that are delivering results that fuck up Washington’s plans. I’d say plenty has changed and I bet there’s much more to this story that we don’t yet know.
Not all revenge is kinetic like on TV,
and non violent revenge is usually a lot more effective than dropping bombs or “torturing some folks”, though it does not always elicit cheers at nationalistic sporting events or country and western concerts.

Posted by: nwwoods | May 4 2023 21:13 utc | 136

Posted by: Babel-17 | May 4 2023 21:06 utc | 132
If Biden regime drops Ukraine, the accompanying stories on “why” Ukraine lost will be probably related to corruption, arms black markets, and old “inept Soviet doctrines” (just ignore the fact that they have been using Nato fighting for pretty much all the time).
The western media/governments/vassals are getting very itchy, they can’t really comprehend what SMO means and already imagine some kind of ceasefire, which would immediately take Ukraine into Nato. They simply don’t get it, so to compensate they spew more and even more hysterical B S.
Ukraine is putting and dragging everyone they can find off the streets to arms and while Russia hopes they would surrender, it isn’t that simple. The country is probably under 20 million population now.

Posted by: unimperator | May 4 2023 21:14 utc | 137

So he came in the stealth of night to The Hague, the city of Peace and Carnegie foundation of the Peace Palace, ICJ and what it stands for more than a century.
Brutal war propaganda supported by opportunistic leader VVD party and Prime Minister Mark Rutte. Signed the Gazprom contracts for Nord Stream gas pipelines … frontman for Royal Dutch Shell and Gasunie … together with Medvedev and Angela Merkel. Changing colours and partnership in a timely manner … friend to Donald, Boris and doing well with Joe.
Hijacking Peace by Zelensky for War Escalation
Only Farmer alliance BBB leader Caroline Van der Plas refused to meet him on WWII Commemoration Day … bloody hell for all of them.
[…]
Today, Thursday May 4th is the Commemoration of heroes and war deaths, especially the citizens killed during the German occupation 1940-45 and the Jewish population arrested, transported through Westerbork to extermination camps of Hitler Nazi terror and genocide. Most camps were on Ukrainian territory, Poland and Eastern Germany. Soviet prisoners of war too were slaughtered as cattle.
[…]
His theme on Commemoration Day of Silence will be broken … No Peace without Justice.
Unprecedented as an impartial investigation should take place, Zelensky as party to war in Ukraine, will visit the ICC courts. Will we get visits from George Bush, Dick Cheney, Netanyahu or one of his generals, Palestinian leader Abbas or Syrian president Bashar al-Assad??? Both America and Israel have threatened the ICC Court with military violence.
Zelenskyy pushes the Netherlands to train Ukrainian pilots on F-16s in meeting with Rutte, De Croo.
Speech at a closed meeting in the World Forum
“We All Want to See Putin [Hanged] ______ (left blank) in The Hague”
Absolute Fu*king Scandalous
Worse than I expected as the war in Ukraine was conflated with Nazi war crimes.
Zelensky got applause from Dutch Parliament, King Alexander and especially Mark Rutte and Ollongren of Defense … bloody madness when commemorating the tens of millions who died at the hands of Nazi fascism. Also Ukrainian death camps and killing fields of Babi Yar in Kiev.
PURE WAR PROPAGANDA
Specifically mentioning he is a Jew … so is Netanyahu and the war crimes and crimes against humanity. Genocide has no ethnicity … can happen everywhere and anytime. ☮️

Posted by: Oui | May 4 2023 21:14 utc | 138

Regardless of who is behind this attack on the Kremlin, it provides political for Russia to do whatever it wants militarily in Ukraine.
This event is the beginning of the end of the Ukraine conflict. Ukraine now has only two choices: surrender or get destroyed.

Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | May 4 2023 21:17 utc | 139

I meant to say political COVER.

Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | May 4 2023 21:19 utc | 140

Blinken in interview stated Ukraine has a free hand to attack on Russian territory …
No diplomacy WTF hand in your badge, a big failure as the globalization Titanic goes under.

Posted by: Oui | May 4 2023 21:19 utc | 141

” Russians didn’t commit the Katyn atrocity – Bolsheviks did.
Posted by: Exile | May 4 2023 20:52 utc | 127 ”
No, the Soviets did.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 4 2023 21:21 utc | 142

Zelensky

Today here, in the Netherlands, we’re working to bring peace closer and to restore justice. Victory in the war is won by force of arms – that’s how the job gets done. And I am grateful to 🇳🇱 for every piece of weapon supplied to 🇺🇦 and for strong leadership that helps us to protect life. […]

Posted by: Oui | May 4 2023 21:24 utc | 143

Why would Kiev attempt this pointless exercise, unless it was perpetrated by enemies of Zelensky within his ranks who wish to coup him by instigating & instrumentalizating Russian revenge? Or indeed maybe there are powerful factions within the Ukrainian military who wish to remove Zelensky and sue for peace with Russia.

Posted by: Ludovic | May 4 2023 21:27 utc | 144

Re: Srbin | 20:23 utc | 110
”We see that The Netherlands promised F16 planes today.”
Unintentional? But utter bull … Russophobe Rutte and De Croo are willing to train F-16 pilots … decision on delivery lies elsewhere.

Posted by: Oui | May 4 2023 21:31 utc | 145

So Naftali Bennett gave key information to Zelenskyy after a private call with Putin.
Who says these Jews are not a gang?

Posted by: Wokechoke | May 4 2023 21:32 utc | 146

I guess Antonov forgot that a large jet crashed into the Pentagon on 9-11.
Invasions of 2 countries followed.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | May 4 2023 21:35 utc | 147

Posted by: PaulaFox | May 4 2023 17:07 utc | 30
Finally – a useful comment here… LOL Rather read this than Shadowbanned’s bullshit.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 4 2023 21:44 utc | 148

Inkan1969 | May 4 2023 16:41 utc | 17
@bar condemned such demands from the US public on Afghanistan back in 2001?
And @bar [b] was correct.
Afghanistan had nada, zip, zero, NOTHING, no responsibility for 9/11.
Thinking people knew attacking Afghanistan would achieve nothing and be a disaster.
Twenty years later… We were absolutely correct.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 21:47 utc | 149

@Inkan1969 | May 4 2023 16:41 utc | 17
1) Because Afghanistan had nothing to do with a response to US actions in the Middle East planned on Germany and Indonesia, funded by Saudi Arabia, known about in advance by Israel and probably some in US intelligence and security organizations.
2) Because Afghanistan correctly responded that they were not recognized by the US, and had no extradition agreement with the US, but would nevertheless cooperate with the US and extradite to Germany, with whom they did have an extradition treaty, anyone the US could provide credible evidence that they had violated Afghan law (which is a normal part of extradition treaties).
3) Because you can’t declare war on a strategy unless you are the US, in which case you will lose.
4) Because it is asinine to attempt a military response to a social, intelligence, police failure.
5) Because attacking the world’s largest and most warlike tribe, not defeated by anyone in centuries, is not only futile, it will cost a fortune.
6) Because it was evident from the outset that not even the US military “mountain regiments” do mountains – and that nobody in the US military behind to understand mountain warfare.
7) Because the CIA psychologists combined the nastiest aspects of Wahabi Islam with the concepts that poverty is good, encouraging them to destroy their wealth, and that anyone wealthier than themselves is evil and spread this hot toxic mess around the autonomous homelands to get them to fight the one country that had helped them, the USSR. When the USSR collapsed, the USA abandoned them and increased their misery, ensuring that the US and its tools in the Middle East became t. You can’t defeat such concepts by making people poorer. You have to make them fat and happy and war will not do that.
8) Because wars are never a rational response to terrorism. For every opponent you kill, you create 7 new ones.
9) Most importantly, because we earned 9/11 with our behaviour across the Middle East. After 911 we could have chosen to attempt to rectify this, and made friends instead. That would have required too much intelligence. Having failed utterly at formulating an intelligent response, we facilitated the destruction of the US myth of exceptionalism and our own economy.

Posted by: Hermit | May 4 2023 21:49 utc | 150

Question on the whole affair: How did Ukraine get operatives with explosive carrying drones close enough to the Kremlin? I know that they are too small and fly too low for most air defense systems, but am curious as the aspects of who and how are not much discussed at my usual sources for information. Does anyone have any links to stories about the investigation, suspects, likely means by which it was a)planned, b)carried out? Could Ukraine really still have sleeper cells in Moscow or is it more likely that the perpetrators are actually of a different nationality and working on behalf of Washington and not directly with Kiev?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2023 21:51 utc | 151

Posted by: Not Ewe | May 4 2023 20:11 utc | 104
“Pretty sure a TV movie about John Wayne Bobbit or some porn parody has been made”
Yes, there was a porn video made. Which I did NOT watch. 🙂
As for Zelensky, if I were Putin, once he’s captured, I’d hand him over to the Chechens. If Zelensky likes dressing in drag, I’m sure Kadyrov’s boys would be happy to make him a female, heh, heh. A fine example of the West’s “wokeness”, in a sense.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 4 2023 21:53 utc | 152

Anton Gorbatow #138
“This event is the beginning of the end of the Ukraine conflict”
Well, that’s great… Excellent news…
It means that having fulfilled the requirements of this arcane expiatory ritual, a few hundreds of thousands of lives AND a failed drone strike, Russia can finally unleash its immense and overwhelming power.
Mere mortals will be inclined to ask whether they could do that at any time… But see also that Roger Rabbit quote.
“No, not at any time, only when it was funny”.
Funny indeed…

Posted by: MoaMetal | May 4 2023 21:55 utc | 153

103. Hypersonic missiles don’t matter eh? You’re just talking out your ass now.
Jake Sullivan, is that you?

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 4 2023 21:56 utc | 154

Inkan1969 | May 4 2023 16:54 utc | 22
Soleimani | Iran nothing much has changed
Oh. Only the whole fabric of relations in the MENA.
Saudi and Iran just reopen embassies, as just one example.
War in Yemen abandoned….
Israel increasingly isolated. …

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 21:58 utc | 155

IMHO all this is distraction.
The only real question is why.
Is this covering the near Artiomovsk collapse?
Is this giving some extra time to get more weapons for the next Ukroffensive?
I agree with the most that russian patience is keeping us all alive!
Zed, will live…
Cheers,
ECH

Posted by: EC_H | May 4 2023 21:59 utc | 156

ukies deny they did it. but issued a stamp picture within hours, just like the bridge explosions. they dont learn

Posted by: hankster | May 4 2023 21:59 utc | 157

Posted by: Hermit | May 4 2023 21:49 utc | 149
While I don’t dispute your logic at #9, it sort of conflicts with #1. Saudi Arabia and Israel (more on the latter in a bit) were technically “allies” at the time, so if our actions in the ME prior to 9/11/2001 were what earned us the response, why were the attacks carried out by non-Afghani Saudis and Israelis (with likely state support from both)?
Regarding my note on Israel – This raises a puzzling angle. Because indeed, the USA did earn some kind of blowback attack with its policies over the years in the ME (specifically stated by Bin Laden as related to Israel/Palestine), but I personally believe that Israel did the planning so that the US would over-react (which it did) and take out the remaining countries that the Zionist hardliners were worried about (which didn’t quite happen all the way). So the irony is that Uncle Scam did provoke the events of 9/11 but they were carried out by would-be allies, or highly placed factions among them to draw the US even further into the Middle East. Bin Laden wasn’t a dummy and it is for those reasons that I personally believe he and his alleged co-conspirators likely had very little if anything to do with the actual attacks.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2023 21:59 utc | 158

Zelensky is useful to Russia, for his incompetence, his detestability, his clownish belligerence, and to eventually surrender.
Russia’s responses to provocations tend to be asymmetric, so I’d expect something different than an attack on Zelensky.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | May 4 2023 21:59 utc | 159

Russia is taking its time watching America,s testicle burn in the fire. Didn’t another bank go pop today? The slowSMO is a sideshow while US financial dominance is overturned.
Meanwhile the US paper tiger stationed some A10s in the mideast, supposedly as a show of ‘strength’..these frames are decades old, slow as fuck and while they might be good for mowing down desert militias armed with Aks ain’t gonna do shit against the Islamic Republic of Iran, it’s bullshit for domestic consumption.
But yeah hypersonic missiles ain’t shit. A10s baby! Laughable.
Rule 1 don’t get high on your own supply…of propaganda.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 4 2023 22:01 utc | 160

Posted by: Ludovic | May 4 2023 21:27 utc | 143
July 20th 1944 happened for a reason and Germany was militarily in a far better state than Ukraine is presently. The attacks on rail yards, logistics hubs and possibly gathering of officers for pre-offensive final briefings are also indicators that some Ukrainians are actively sabotaging a regime they think has all but killed their country.
One could surmise that the content of the US, Ukraine phone calls probably has Zelensky pleading, threatening Washington that the offensive they are forcing him to launch will probably end up in an army led palace coup, threatening the whole operation. The timing of the drone strike, just after leaks of disagreements between the two are eerily similar to the SOP of the Nordstream sabotage, just after Germany seemed to go wobbly on sanctions. Was the Kremlin attack a metaphorical ‘horses head’ in Zelensky’s bed?

Posted by: Milites | May 4 2023 22:05 utc | 161

” Question on the whole affair: How did Ukraine get operatives with explosive carrying drones close enough to the Kremlin?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2023 21:51 utc | 150 ”
How many ZioWest embassies are in Moscow ?
Additionally, we have no prove the Ukies did this.
So once again, How many ZioWest embassies are in Moscow ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 4 2023 22:05 utc | 162

” I’m sure Kadyrov’s boys would be happy to make him a female, heh, heh. A fine example of the West’s “wokeness”, in a sense.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 4 2023 21:53 utc | 151 ”
Why ? Are the vaunted Chechens of the faggy persuasion ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 4 2023 22:08 utc | 163

Cesar Jeopardy | May 4 2023 18:10 utc | 52
I was reading the Washington Post comments on this drone attack
One of the reasons I really appreciate this website! Information to balance American MSM/government propaganda. A lot of which is simply not true.

Posted by: MarkO | May 4 2023 22:09 utc | 164

@ Oui | May 4 2023 21:14 utc | 137
Rutte is grown out of Jongerenorganisatie Vrijheid en Democratie that is basically a conservative neoliberal boot camp and an indoctrination organization.
He is basically a proper European neocon weasel.
I wonder what would Pim Fortuyn do and think about present Dutch political attitude if he lived on?
Not that he was very cool way back then, but he seemed to understand the World more than the current set up.
When comparing to those guys, he would probably appear on the far-left and not madly supporting Zelensky and the domestic and EU-wide Nazi gang of today.
The Netherlands has gone mad to madder in the last 15 years, true.
I simply do not get how Zelensky manages to blind and snake charm so many people.
Or they just have the reader from US Embassy on how to behave.
T’gek.

Posted by: whirlX | May 4 2023 22:14 utc | 165

Posted by young @26
“….This is a very good time for Zelensky to repent of his evil ways and to find Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. I hope he does. I pray that he does”
As much as I detest Z, his henchmen and his subjugate, surround and divide Russia war aims, inflicting the ‘Starman waiting in the sky’ on him will mean jack shit to Talmudist grifters like Z.
https://vimeo.com/178357619
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“Christianity remains to this day the greatest misfortune of humanity.” 
― Friedrich Nietzsche, The Anti-Christ

Posted by: Paul GV | May 4 2023 22:16 utc | 166

Stoltenberg, head of NATO, is the one who would have ordered this attack. Zelensky is just a pasty
Posted by: Exile | May 4 2023 20:48 utc | 125
Zelenskyy is a trained Lawyer. He’s the principle mover. This entire war looks more and more like Jewish perfidy from top to bottom. The tip-off from Bennett for example and the role of Blinken Nuland and Sullivan.

Posted by: Wokechoke | May 4 2023 22:21 utc | 167

Zelenska in London:
“The wife of the Ukrainian president will take part in the celebration of the coronation of Charles III.
First lady of Ukraine Olena Zelenska arrived in London on Downing Street on May 4, where she met with Akshata Murty, wife of British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, reports Air force.
The women exchanged hugs before entering the prime minister’s house No. 10.
Later in the evening, Zelenska and Akshata will visit a library in central London.
They last met in London in November 2022.
Zelenska is one of the foreign dignitaries invited by the British government to celebrate the coronation of King Charles III this weekend.”
https://zn.ua/ukr/POLITICS/zelenska-pribula-do-londona.html

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 4 2023 22:22 utc | 168

MEANWHILE…..
A kiev drone, launched towards Russia, which took off from a military airfield was intercepted by pro-Russian hacker-activists who directed the drone back to kiev centre and circled the Rada building a number of times. Panic broke out in the operational center of the Kiev air defence area who fired over thirty missiles at the drone before it was finally hit and brought down.

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 4 2023 22:24 utc | 169

In a multipolar world the attitudes of many countries are relevant. Moscow cannot ignore attitudes in Delhi or Brasilia because that may effect the indian and Brazilian response in a multitude of ways. I imagine that the dominant feeling of many such states is that the Ukrainians(and the US or some element of it), has overstepped the imaginary line, and they expect that Russians will find it necessary to respond. They are likely however to urge caution on the Russians despite the possibility that they themselves would act more strenuously if they were wearing russian shoes.
American politicians would, in past years, ask the question about some policy, “How would it play in Peoria?” Peoria is a mid-west city and the headquarters of Caterpillar, historically, but not recently, in a swing state. The Russians might now ask, “How would it play in Djakarta?” The tendency of the multipolar world is towards moderation and away from excess. But exceptions will still happen. The fact is that the Russians have not acted already, and time is another moderator, so moderation will probably win here.

Posted by: Blackeyebart | May 4 2023 22:33 utc | 170

I doubt Russia will do anything directly to Zelensky because it would only make him a martyr. The hohols who were press ganged and sent off to be killed and maimed in the meat grinder for nothing already want Zelensky’s head, and they will have it after the Ukraine suffers its ultimate humiliating defeat. But if Russia wants to encourage them to have their revenge…

Posted by: FVK | May 4 2023 22:42 utc | 171

Milites | May 4 2023 20:18 utc | 105
>…Biden’s powerplay had him put at the back of the Abbey [QE2 funeral]
Curious and slightly amused … what “power play”?
OT: But +/- 200 replies in, thread is 50-50 “take Z out” v “he’s the best worst president Russia could inflict on Ukraine”.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 22:43 utc | 172

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 4 2023 22:05 utc | 161
That’s exactly where I was going with my question. I highly doubt it was the Ukrainians or carried out by actual Ukrainians, but it’s possible. That said, they sure were quick with the illustrated stamp, just like after the bridge bombing and the timing of Zelensky’s trip sure is interesting, so…

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2023 22:44 utc | 173

Ha! @ 168 HERMIUS , this confirms the message (expressed via GIF) in a tweet I clicked then clicked then clicked again to… from the Twitter account of Viktor Orban, originally. See for yourself:
https://twitter.com/TheSecretCitrus/status/1653750621659631618

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | May 4 2023 22:44 utc | 174

‘Putin’s hands are tied beyond a point when the country is in rage and demanding retribution, as evident from the comments by former Russian President and current Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev: “After today’s terrorist attack, there are no options left except for the physical elimination of Zelensky and his clique.”’
err, who constitutes the country demanding retribution here? Medvedev?

Posted by: plucy | May 4 2023 22:48 utc | 175

Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2023 21:51 utc | 150
HERMIUS made 2-3 good posts in previous thread.:
Here’s one extract. Worth finding his full posts.
HERMIUS | May 3 2023 21:31 utc | 179
has this: …drone was …operated within the Moscow area, had a small explosive device attached, and was steered by the operator via the screen on his control device”

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 22:51 utc | 176

I wonder if Prigozhin has lost his mind, or if he’s speaking the truth based on information not accessible in the public domain, or both!
https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1654253323107663873

Posted by: Akash | May 4 2023 22:58 utc | 177

HERMIUS | May 4 2023 22:24 utc | 168
Good to see you’re active on this thread … maybe you can addressable TQC queries of how? And what? drone could reach the Kremlin.
Also. Gotta link for Clash of the Comedic Drones ?
Thx for your posts.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 22:58 utc | 178

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
May 5, 2023
Awaiting for approval
I cannot comment because the posts I have made go into Moderation and are then removed from the conversation thread. However, in the event that this one might get through I think it needs to be remembered that Zelensky’s trip to Finland for the NordiScandi Conference (of which of course Ukraine has no place in) was stated as being unannounced. The simple facts are that (i) Ukraine struck the Kremlin with 2 drones and (ii) that Zelensky most definitely knew about it and the USA are involved with the decision for this action, whatever protests they make.
All this talk about a Russian False Flag or a USA False Flag is BS. The simple facts are the usually the correct ones. Firstly, Zelensky gave a clear order that attacks inside Russia could be made. the Head of the Svoboda Right Sector Military also made a very clear, widely reported statement that they were going to undertake a series of strikes inside Russia to cause disruption and damage. That has proven to be true. The train derailments, this incident, the two assassination of key figures and other recent incidents confirm that this Order is being put into action.
Zelensky is playing with fire because the Heads of States of the collective West have debased themselves before him, they have humiliated themselves by fawning of everything he says and does, they have turned him, a Brutal, Vicious, Evil Nazi Dictator into a Tyrant and a Despot. For some who has clearly got an advanced Narcissistic Personality Disorder and a serious drug habit, this is making him more evil, more brutal, more dangerous and more tyrranical. Simplicius 76 articulates very well what a dangerous and turbulent few years we are facing because of these idiotic neo-cons and their obsession with Power. I don’t think Russia has any intention of taking out Zelensky because they will, I believe arrest him when the time is right and put him in the Dock in an International Tribunal for serious War Crimes. He will show himself to be what he is actually which a coward, a weakling, immoral, psychopathic and extremely narcisstic but a Tribunal will make him look cheap, tawdry and greedy.

Posted by: Jo Dominich | May 4 2023 23:03 utc | 179

@ Mike314159 | May 4 2023 21:09 utc | 133
My hypothesis: Air-launched cruise missiles.
Yes, if they would be invisible it might be of some use.
I think Ukrainians are looking more in the direction of a better aerial ground support, as Soviet planes are apparently too primitive for them and mostly are all shot through and downed and became unobtanium.
I do not understand their thinking as in: if MIG-29 that is not a bad plane cannot make it why would F-16 do any better?
The mentality attitude there is that everything that comes from the West, mostly America, is a way better and superior to Russian arms.
They still do not know that is a mostly a myth, and apparently are learning that on the go while dying in flocks.
But, RF’s long distance missile and airspace defence can see a Cessna taking off in Limerick, Ireland, in real-time if they wish to.
Currently, the whole Ukraine plus around 400 km around it, is ISR covered from about 30 meters upwards. There is a constant presence of at least 6 pairs of SU_27, SU-35 and possible some SU-57 interceptors patrolling 24/7 above “old Russian” territory and the Black Sea.
I think Russian airspace forces are holding a record distance hit so far achieved in a combat. They shot down Ukrainian MIG-29 that was at the height of 1500 meters, and 275 km far away.
If I advised Ukrainian air force, they would do much better with Saab Gripens than anything else currently to avail.

Posted by: whirlX | May 4 2023 23:03 utc | 180

Prigozin is furious and while I dont comprehend it all I did get the impression that he has called out the high command.
https://t.me/remylind21/1534
If any barfly can point to a translation I would appreciate it.
It is May 5 and sh!t is flying.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 4 2023 23:05 utc | 181

I wonder if there will be serious ramifications if this infighting between Prigozhin and the Russian MOD is real?
But it seems to me that Prigozhin is not a serious person, whereas Shoigu, Gerasimov, and certainly Putin seem to be.

Posted by: Akash | May 4 2023 23:05 utc | 182

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 4 2023 23:05 utc | 179
https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1654253323107663873 Has a translation up..

Posted by: Akash | May 4 2023 23:08 utc | 184

From:https://t.me/CyberspecNews/29746
“Prigozhin showing Wagner casualties and going off at the MOD, as he says in “colourful” language for withholding ammo supplies
He calls out Shoigu and Gerasimov by name”

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 4 2023 23:09 utc | 185

I was reading the Washington Post comments on this drone attack. The fools there claimed it was Russia that hit the Kremlin with the drones, yet there was no information out to even suggest that. Worse yet, they seem to have convinced themselves that it was Russia who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines. This is what happens when all you have is U.S./Ukrainian propaganda for information.
Posted by: Cesar Jeopardy | May 4 2023 18:10 utc | 52

Not all the time. Some comments are likely auto-generated by AI while others are from government paid “trolls”.

Posted by: Ian2 | May 4 2023 23:12 utc | 186

whirlX | May 4 2023 23:03 utc | 178
Your post is “reminiscent” of Martyanov and Raevsky…
3-4 years ago, both had me a True Believer in the omnipresence and omniscience of Russian AD and intel.
And then the sloSMO. And I see what I see, which is hits on Russian infrastructure in Russia.
Not intending to be too confrontational here, but how do you reconcile claims that Russia can see Cessnas in Ireland, but can’t see something about to hit is oil supplies in Crimea (and Russia)
?

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 23:15 utc | 187

LoL Prigozin is a Drama Queen
All he is is a manager of a bunch of convicts who walk into a meatgrinder. Then has to daily make tiktok vids to cry about his convicts being obliterated due to a lack of weapons.
Reminds me of the Comedian.
Hes most likely the Kremlins useful idiot. Hes as good an actor as Z as well.
LoL this is a tiktok “war” at this point.

Posted by: Comandante | May 4 2023 23:18 utc | 188

Elijah Magnier
Asks, “Are these drones Ukrainians?”
Lol. I’ve got “Chinese” on my bingo card.
The drones on the Kremlin are the equivalent of a “shitpost” on Reddit.
Using Chinese drones adds even more salt.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 23:22 utc | 189

I guess you missed the 2+ million protesting in the streets of Paris a couple of days ago.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 4 2023 19:40 utc | 88

It’s a performative, ritualised endeavour.
They didn’t actually protest hard enough to change anything.

Posted by: GT Stroller | May 4 2023 23:25 utc | 190

LoL this is a tiktok “war” at this point.
Posted by: Comandante | May 4 2023 23:18 utc | 186
Not sure about that statement, considering the likely 300K+ KIA already in little over a year of fighting. Unless we receive a disproportionate view of the effective role of Wagner PMC in the SMO vis-a-vis the average Russian, I think this infighting could have serious consequences in the conduct of the SMO. Though if the feud is publicly squashed that could mitigate any adverse affects.

Posted by: Akash | May 4 2023 23:27 utc | 191

It’s just a coincidence that Zelenskyy was travelling outside the country for next two weeks when this attack happened. Nothing to see here folks!

Posted by: RiNS | May 4 2023 23:29 utc | 192

Elensky should have been eliminated at the outset. What are the “arguments” for his non-denazification?
1. “Russia needs Elensky to sign the surrender.”
That’s a laugh. There won’t be any surrender. If and when the nazi regime collapses, Elensky will be either spirited out of Ukranazistan to be put in charge of a NATO-puppet “government in exile”, or else murdered in a way that the blame is put on Russia (Novichok/Yesvichok/Perhapsvichok again?). What he is never going to be permitted to do is sign a capitulation.
2. “Elensky is a puppet, the real rulers are in the west.”
So? How’s that an argument for not eliminating the puppet?
3. “Elensky will be replaced by someone else/someone who may be more competent, like Yarosh or Tyagnybok.”
Oh but I thought Elensky [and any replacement] was a puppet, so competence is immaterial?
In any case if Elensky is eliminated and replaced, the obvious solution is to denazify the replacement too, and the next replacement if there is one. These aren’t al Qaeda level martyrdom seekers; they’re only in it for money and power. As soon as they know that they’ve got targets on their backs the NATOstanis won’t find anyone willing to be the puppet in charge. They will have to either take direct control of the puppet regime or abandon the project. What do you think either will do to the international legitimacy of Ukranazistan?
4. “Russia needs to keep the BRICS on side.”
The BRICS are with Russia for geopolitical and economics reasons. The destruction of a corrupt drug addicted war criminal is not going to break that any more than the SMO did.
As a matter of fact Elensky’s a brand now, not a “president”. Even the Badass Of The Week website called the little crook a “badass” defying Russia. Denazifying Elensky will destroy the brand. Who in the west knows any other Ukranazistani potential replacement? How would they go about marketing him, and how long would it take?
There are no good reasons why Elensky should go on breathing, and plenty of reasons why he shouldn’t.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 4 2023 23:30 utc | 193

@GT Stroller 189
Absolutely correct. I’ve repeatedly said that all the “protests” in Europistan will be utterly irrelevant. They’ll wave placards and go home again.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 4 2023 23:33 utc | 194

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 22:43 utc | 170
Demanded that he be driven in his limousine to the funeral, not bussed like every other head of state, resulting in his delayed arrival at the Abbey due to traffic. He then expected to just waltz (sorry shamble) in and take his place, but was told sternly to wait in line as others were processing in, when he was finally seated he was 14 rows back, looking miffed (sorry dazed).

Posted by: Milites | May 4 2023 23:36 utc | 195

Putin gives off the impression that he simply doesn’t like war and wants to wage as little of it as possible. That is why I don’t see him taking out little Z zelensky. The Russians will more likely strike Ukraine in a symbolic way that they hope prevents Ukraine from wanting to strike the Kremlin again

Posted by: My Comment | May 4 2023 23:38 utc | 196

I expect Putin to say he can’t drone Zelensky because the Kremlin has an office pool on when and how he gets it. If Putin explains that he has $5 in everybody will understand

Posted by: Trumpeter | May 4 2023 23:42 utc | 197

This is disappointing analysis by B.
First it is very possible that while Zelensky finds it amusing even a positive event, he and Ukraine may very well not have been involved. I am sure that generally there are elements of Ukraine (maybe inclding Zelensky) which are happy to aid and abet the attempts at sabotage in Russia. It kind of goes with the circumstances. The attempts to harm civilians are terrorism and I suspect counter productive, but the attemps as sabotage of infrastructure are I think valid if unorthodox (unsportsman-like) military tactics. Its not that I care if people say bad things about the Ukrainians – they deserve worse. But the rediculus hypervetilating is also counter productive – there will be worse, dark days lie just ahead. There may be reason to waver and lose confidence. Russia needs to maintain calm, steady, analytical determination and faith that what they are doing is right and necessary. Even if Putin were killed, they would need to maintain. Even when there is loss of blood and money they will need to continue.
The damned thing barely scuffed the paint. Hugely lame. If it was a false flag it was unimpressive.
If Zelensky were to target Putin and Putin responded similarly, that would make Putin at same level as Zelensky. Lindsay Graham reveal himself as a lunitic, jerk, idiot for advocating to target Putin. So now Putin is to do same?
Putin needs to focus on overcoming the military conflict and the economic war. Also Russia needs a plan B, should anything happen to Putin.

Posted by: jared | May 4 2023 23:48 utc | 198

he won’t go back. unless he’s suicidal and most of the collective ukie actions over the past year or so make one wonder if they aren’t all just kamikaze pagan ISIS trying to get to their 72 (white) virgins or whatever. otherwise he’s hanging with the other exiled idiots…the shah’s kids come to mind and i’m sure the taiwanese government will RSVP in the near future.
with him gone, the ukie “troops” dying in mudholes and the “offensive” looking more and more like a mirage i’d say it’s “surrender and blame the bad actor with dad bod for everything” time.

Posted by: the pair | May 4 2023 23:57 utc | 199

Question for the bar: With the request for F-16s, is there perhaps an element of Ukraine trying to be clever, and thinking that given how emblematic the F-16 is of America’s power, prestige, and history (in film anyway) of winning glorious air battles in the cause of freedom, that once Ukraine committed the F-16s to battle, the Biden regime would start thinking, “We can’t allow Russia to have a turkey shoot with those jets!!!”, and start providing a lot of sophisticated and powerful weaponry to the AFU?

Posted by: Babel-17 | May 5 2023 0:00 utc | 200