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May 11, 2023
Ukraine SitRep: Delayed Counteroffensive, Russian Defense Lines, Weapon Efficiency

Two weeks ago the Biden administration had recognized that the announced Ukrainian 'counteroffensive' will fail to make much progress.

The operation has still not started and Zelensky has moved its launch further into the future:

Speaking at his headquarters in Kyiv, President Zelensky described combat brigades, some of which were trained by Nato countries, as being "ready" but said the army still needed "some things", including armoured vehicles that were "arriving in batches".

"With [what we already have] we can go forward, and, I think, be successful," he said in an interview for public service broadcasters who are members of Eurovision News, like the BBC. "But we'd lose a lot of people. I think that's unacceptable. So we need to wait. We still need a bit more time."

Time will not prevent that any counteroffensive will lead to high casualty rates. In fact, waiting longer means more attacks on the troops in their current positions. Any detected agglomeration of forces or material is already coming under long range Russian missile fire.

As the counteroffensive is destined to fail the Biden administration is out to move the goal posts. In Foreign Affairs two of its MIC propagandists, Michael Kofman and Rob Lee, demand to prepare for a much longer war:

Policymakers, however, have placed undue emphasis on the upcoming offensive without providing sufficient consideration of what will come afterward and whether Ukraine is well positioned for the next phase. It is critical that Ukraine’s Western partners develop a long-term theory of victory for Ukraine, since even in the best-case scenario, this upcoming offensive is unlikely to end the conflict. Indeed, what follows this operation could be another period of indeterminate fighting and attrition, but with reduced ammunition deliveries to Ukraine. This is already a long war, and it is likely to become protracted. History is an imperfect guide, but it suggests wars that endure for more than a year are likely to go on for at least several more and are exceedingly difficult to end. A Western theory of success must therefore prevent a situation in which the war drags on, but where Western countries are unable to provide Ukraine with a decisive advantage.

The delusion is strong in that assessment. A 'theory of victory' or 'success' is just that – a theory. Ukraine does not have the personnel to sustain a longer war. Nor does the 'west' have any spare weapons that could give the Ukraine a 'decisive advantage'.

Still the cue was picked up Ukraine's foreign minister Dmitro Kuleba (machine translation):

If Ukraine does not succeed in its counteroffensive against the aggressor country Russia, it will prepare for the next one.

This was stated by Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba in an interview with Bild published on May 10.

He urged "not to consider this counteroffensive as the last one" – "because we do not know what will come of it."

Kuleba noted that if Ukraine succeeds in its counteroffensive against Russia in liberating its territories, "in the end you will say: "Yes, it was the last one," but if not, then you need to prepare for the next counteroffensive."

Kuleba is already asking for weapons for the next 'counteroffensive' to be launched after the currently announced one fails.

Dreizin published an alleged 'battle plan' for a Ukrainian 'counteroffensive' in the Zaporozhia front:

(1) Break through the Russian forward defense along the line Nesterianka-Novosyolovka (6km and 19km southeast of Orekhov, respectively) into the defense depth of Guards battalions in the Polozhsk-Orekhov sector, utilizing, in the first echelon, the 47th and 65th Separate Mechanized Brigades, 9th Army Corps (total of 2 tank and 7 infantry battalions—8300 men with up to 60 tanks, up to 200 other armored fighting vehicles, up to 110 field pieces and mortars, 12 MLRS, up to 100 motor rafts.) Breakthrough of the contact line will be in the order of the 65th which is already on the line, then the 47th. Neighboring units including the 128th Separate Mountain Assault Brigade will carry the task of harrying neighboring Russian units so as to prevent reinforcement of Russian forces at the main axis of advance.

(2) Subsequently, deploy the main forces. The main blow is to be from the vicinity of Orekhov, in the direction of Tokmak, ultimately towards Melitopol’. …

From the point of strategic value the chosen target is the right one. However, it is also the one where the Russian military has prepared its strongest defense lines.


Source: @Inkvisiit, Scribblemapsbigger

In military books this is know as 'echeloned defense' with three lines of well prepared positions ten kilometer apart from each other. Each line consists of tank obstacles, mine belts, prepared anti-tank positions to monitor and counter potential breach attempts and well prepared artillery support from behind the next defense line.


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To crack such a nut without air support and without significant artillery advantage is nearly impossible.

It is why I think that the Zaporozhia region may not be the real target of the counteroffensive. All the talk about it may well be a diversion. The least prepared front is in the area south of Kherson.


Source: @Inkvisiit, Scribblemapsbigger

But to get there would require a difficult river crossing of the Dnieper which will also limit supply lines. This would be a high risk attempt which might gain some ground. But whatever would be won would soon be lost again as any river crossing would come under sustained artillery fire.

There may well be other obstacles for launching the announced 'counteroffensive'. It is rumored that the commander of the Ukrainian army,  Valerii Zaluzhnyi, was wounded or killed during a recent Russian missile strike in Dnipro. He has not been seen since and he did not take part in a recent NATO meeting where his expected presence had been announced.

Apropos NATO:

NEXTA @nexta_tv – 7:29 UTC · May 11, 2023

U.S. Army Europe and Africa Command spokesman Martin O'Donnell said that #Ukraine received about 600 types of weapons for the counteroffensive – more than any one army in the world has.

What army can handle 600 different weapons systems with all the implied training, maintenance, spare part and ammunition supply issues? None can do that. But O'Donnell is proud of providing a zoo of weapons which are incompatible to each other.

The shells for the British L118 light gun, the French AMX 10 reconnaissance tanks, the German Leopard 1 tanks and the U.S./Lithuanian M101 Light Howitzer all have a nominal diameter of 105 mm. But they are all incompatible to each other. Just imagine the logistic screw ups that will inevitably happen when the Ukrainian front line troops will request additional 105mm ammunition supplies.

The UK has delivered the export version of the Storm Shadow cruise missiles to Ukraine. These have a reach of some 250 kilometer and can be fired from the 'westernized' Su-24 airplanes that Poland sent to the Ukraine.

They seem to be part of a new NATO talking point to excuse the inability to deliver more weapon:

The war in Ukraine will increasingly be a battle between large numbers of poorly trained Russian troops with outdated equipment and a smaller Ukrainian force with better Western weapons and training, NATO's top military official said on Wednesday.

Admiral Rob Bauer, the chair of NATO's military committee, noted Russia was now deploying significant numbers of T-54 tanks – an old model designed in the years after World War Two.

"But the problem is they still have a lot of T-54s. So … in terms of numbers, quantity, it is an issue," Bauer told reporters after a meeting of the alliance's national military chiefs at NATO headquarters in Brussels.

The T-54 are used by Russia as immobile anti-tank guns dug into the defense lines, not as mobile main battle tanks. Russia still has plenty of newer T-72 and T-90 models for that and no need to replace those.

The Storm Shadow may deliver some success – up to the day the Russian military has finds a way to prevent that. Like all previously announced wonder weapons it will also disappoint.

Just look at the much hyped HIMARS missiles. According to leaked Pentagon documents the Ukrainian military fires on average some 13 HIMARS missiles per day. Over the last two month the Russian clobber report listed an average of 6 HIMARS missiles per day as eliminated by Russian air defenses. The rest of the missiles get diverted by electronic warfare measures:

[I]n recent months, the systems have been rendered increasingly less effective by the Russians’ intensive blocking, five US, British and Ukrainian sources tell CNN, forcing US and Ukrainian officials to find ways to tweak the HIMARS’ software to counter the evolving Russian jamming efforts.

“It is a constant cat-and-mouse game” of finding a countermeasure to the jamming, a Pentagon official said, only to then have the Russians counteract that countermeasure. And it is not clear how sustainable that game is in the long term.

The HIMARS system has thereby turned out to more or less useless. The idea that such 'quality' weapons can beat the greater Russian 'quantity' of equally good weapons is, like so many, simply nonsense.

Comments

I refuse to believe that the Pentagon and the Western military establishments are manned by people who know nothing of war. Various statements, the most explicit being Cavoli’s, show that there are those around who do. […]
Europe is now locked into permanent hostility to Russia and by extension to most of the non-Western world. It is now securely locked in to the Western orbit.[…]
And when it is over and the war hysteria abated “We the People” shall find ourselves locked in to Cold War II and accepting – or the most of us accepting – the inevitable economic cost that will be the price of it.
Posted by: English Outsider | May 11 2023 23:52 utc | 195

Many thanks for your comment, it expresses so much what I feel too. Pasted three parts that particularly speak to me but it’s all good. A few comments:
1. I disagree that voting has much to do with what we see now. People occasionally tried to go somewhere with voting, and it’s always been clamped down, some way or another. I’ll just drop some very different politicians that IMO illustrate that: Willy Brandt 1974 Spitzelaffäre, Olof Palme 1986 assassination, Jeremy Corbyn 2019 smear campaign, Giorgia Meloni (she’s an excellent example of how what people vote for is radically different from what they get, like a mini-Selenski).
2. I agree with your win-loss estimate but I’d say that short-term/locally, the US is getting a lot out of the Ukraine desaster: oil exports/revenues are up (all-time high last year, record profits); European companies relocation to US (some of them to China but that’s another story); much tighter grip on the vassals. I believe that the dominating class in the USA has well understood what’s to come and like you I don’t accept that they’re (all) stupid/blind/irrational. So they rake in windfall profits and close the ranks. The separation from China is the next step.
I consider this focus on the West ™ instead of the world (reversing decades of globalisation) as a geopolitical rearguard action: in trying times like this, the vassals have to bleed harder so that the imperial core can hold out longer. If you squint long enough, you can see clear parallels with previous empires. So I think there’s logic here, and not just insanity.
3. The US-driven (I’d say US-made) war in Ukraine does have negative longterm consequences (I am excluding global nuclear war here because that’s pointless scaremongering other forum denizens already excel at): not only does it force Russia-China into a tight union — while it was Kissinger’s lasting achievement to break China out of the Eastern bloc, he must be pretty sorry to see this… The global South is changing allegiance. I guess that when the barbarians are the borders, you can’t have all the diplomatic luxuries anymore.
I find it extremely hard to inject my world view into discussions with ordinary people but it can be done, in small doses and with concrete examples. Living standard is noticeably going down, and not everybody is happy with “Putin!” as the explanation.

Posted by: Konami | May 12 2023 0:26 utc | 201

Imagine being this stupid:
https://twitter.com/BNB_Bus_Stop/status/1656610164617691136?s=20

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 12 2023 0:27 utc | 202

To the extent practical, Ukraine will attack at a time, place and manor which is not expected. It may not end up a complete surprise but that would be the plan. It also occured to me that in that recent event where they attempted to assasinate thier own that perhaps some of those had information that was keys to the planned offensive.
Additionally, Zelenshy is an actor/leader. All the world is a stage.

Posted by: jared | May 12 2023 0:28 utc | 203

Patroklos | May 11 2023 23:57 utc | 197
rebellion against McGregor, Mercouris, Escobar, etc. The intelligent criticism is that they only talk to each other and live in an echo chamber. Berletic is still valuable in my view, but I can no longer listen to the others
Yep.
The challenge is, the cohort of an audience such as at this @bar, are hungry for confirmed, verified info.
There is nonsense. All of the above have sources. Great, tell us what your 11 secret sources say. oh. Their sources know nothing either.
I’ve streamlined my consumption to Berletic; Napolitano (sans Macgregor and Ritter); Mike Jones (iEarlGrey, purely for the Moscow/St Pete walkabouts); Jimmy Dore with Aaron Mate as host; and Weeb Union.
Weeb does map updates in 5m. Dima, I noticed has started doing shorter vid to compete, I gave up on Dima well before the end of last year.
There is a real niche for a y-tubbie to do a program lasting absolutely no more than 15m while still digging.
Like: “why the Patriot destroying Kinzhal is today’s Ghost of Kiev” … science for 7 mins then 7m discussion on why the pentagram lied.
You tubers think they need to blather on for hours to earn their dime.
Nope. I’d pay double for brevity.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2023 0:31 utc | 204

Posted by: Konami | May 12 2023 0:26 utc | 207
European companies relocation to US
I have yet to see any evidence of European companies moving to the US, plenty of evidence for China though.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | May 12 2023 0:37 utc | 205

Barkeep, the place is knee deep in troll effluvia. Clear the bar, break out the waders and firehouse, and pump ship.I

Posted by: Waymad | May 12 2023 0:45 utc | 206

Melaleuca Patroklos
Back in the Vietnam war era, media would pay freelance investigative journalists for there articles. They would publish articles by people with a relevant line of background experience that went against the narrative of the day. That no longer happens so now we see them on blogs on youtube whatever. But they are basically demonetized.
But what we are seeing now is also very different. This is the changing of an era. The era from WWII through to Saudi Arabia first selling oil for RMB. Sitting out historical change is like sitting out a storm. Storms can be predicted and can be seen coming, but predicting every gust of wind within that storm?
From about the ten or eleven minute mark onward this is the best illustration of what we are witnessing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xguam0TKMw8

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 0:53 utc | 207

srbin | May 11 2023 23:03 utc | 180
It is so dependent upon circumstances that it is difficult to speculate,. The only scenario that I can fathom as a possible one-off is a NATO conventional attack on Kaliningrad so successful it leads to Russian tactical strikes against formations in Warmia or Masuria and naval assets in the Baltic.

Posted by: Jorge | May 12 2023 0:54 utc | 208

unimperator | May 11 2023 21:11 utc | 148
The only active offensive they currently have is in the flanks of Bakhmut, where they managed to gain a little bit of terrain
Yes. I paced out 600m wide by 650m deep at my local dog park last night.
Dog park is at least 3x bigger than the Ukrainian “breakout”.
Maybe murkans think metre=miles, and it’s a 600*mile* breakout?
That’s the only explanation for such hyperbole.
Maybe Ukraine is going to retake its territory (and Crimea) one dog park piece at a time?
Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 0:53 utc | 213
Thanks. Will watch this evening.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2023 0:58 utc | 209

The strategic balance is what matters, and allowing yourself to be slowly turned into a much bigger Syria (where everyone can do air strikes whenever they want) while having the largest and most modern nuclear arsenal can only happen through high treason.
Posted by: shadowbanned | May 11 2023 19:09 utc | 51

I’m also of the opinion that Putin ultimately serves other interests than those of Russia.
As for Syria, it is him who literally invited the US and allies in when he forced Assad to destroy its stockpile of chemical weapons which was Syria’s sole strategic deterrence against Israel and western allies. Any strike by these could have resulted in chemical retaliation on Israel and therefore the attrition war against Syria by the West and Israel was most only waged by proxy groups until then. Since then the US moved in and is open season for anybody in Syria with no risk of chemical retaliation on Israel whatsoever anymore and everybody contributes to the never-ending destruction and weakening of Syria for the sole benefit of the latter. Russia never, apart from perhaps once very recently, interfered with Israeli strikes in Syria and these were furthermore always carried out in coordination between Tsahal and the Russian forces.
It is my belief that Russia’s role in Syria has merely been so far that of an Israel puppet who, besides contributing greatly to the destruction and weakening of this country, maintains a weak Assad in power because that is the best/preferred option for Israel.
Indeed it is my opinion that Israel wants nothing more than a weak Assad to remain in power in a greatly weakened/destroyed Syria because, owing to the state of war between the two countries, Israel can strike at will inside Syria without breaking international law and gets to keep occupying the whole of the Golan Heigts indefinitely.
I found it very interesting that, just as there is now a real risk Russia might withdraw from Syria owing to a possible worsening situation on the Ukraine front, the Arab nations who previously didn’t give a fuck about Assad, have now suddenly voiced their strong support for him…
Now, back to Ukraine, while I believe Russia had, owing to NATO/US aggressive expansionism and interference in Ukraine’s internal affairs, etc…, a valid casus belli against this country, it bugs me to no end since the beginning of the so-called SMO that Russia did at no point exercise strong credible nuclear deterrence to prevent the gigantic US/NATO involvement in the conflict (or even to avoid an armed conflict altogether in the first place).
The result of this, obviously, is the maximisation of casualties and destruction in Ukraine, some sort of Syria No 2 indeed.
If I add to this the great care Putin took not to kill the Azov leadership in Mariupol and instead capture them to supposedly expose them as Nazis and war criminal in trials but in the end freed them all so that at least some of them could take a plane to Israel and publicly celebrate and dance with Chabad-Lubavitch rabbis there, I really started to wonder what was really going on and who will profit/benefit the most from this conflict.
Azov and other Ukrainian neo-nazis groups have been funded by the same Jewish oligarch who funded Zelinsky into power and these spearheaded the the anti-Russian crusade within Ukraine. I believe they also enforce the culling of Ukrainian conscripts by Russia on the front lines, acting as rear units shooting any of these trying to flee the grinder.
As for Chabad-Lubavitch, it’s currently the most powerful Jewish sect and one of the most extremist, they regard Jews as creatures of God and non-jews aka goyims as being solely made from demonic emanations. This group is supported and funded by such prominent oligarchs as Lev Leviev, Roman Abramovich and Nathan Rothschild. There is an abundant amount of absolutely genuine pictures portraying them inside the oval office and Putin’s Kremlin office.
So, is this conflict where the West/US/NATO is willing to fight to the last Ukrainian only about US hegemony, testing out weapon systems, etc… or is there something deeper and even more sinister to it that both sides are sold to / betray their people/countries for such as this Israel No2 aka neo-Khazaria story we’ve heard about. Ukraine’s not only only ancestral khazar land, it’s also the ancestral land of the Schneerson dynasty of rabbis as well as the richest land in Europe.
Seems like an horribly “antisemitic” view, right? But what if it’s true?

Posted by: Mushroom | May 12 2023 0:58 utc | 210

Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 0:53 utc | 213
And you’re correct.
No corporate media is allowing any independent “stringers” to publish anything that contradicts the narrative.
That the pentagon can state a Patriot shot down a kinzhal… that should have been eviscerated by media… but they all just want to still have a job tomorrow.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2023 1:02 utc | 211

I have yet to see any evidence of European companies moving to the US, plenty of evidence for China though.
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | May 12 2023 0:37 utc | 211q

I cannot tell you how much it really is but there’s certainly talk. It’s not quite about relocation and rather about investing elsewhere rather than in Europe (all mainstream news):
Deutsche Unternehmen wandern in die USA ab
Deutsche Konzerne zieht es in die USA (mentions BMW, Audi, Siemens, Aurubis)
Deutsche Unternehmen bauen ihre Standorte in den USA immer weiter aus
Of course, that’s all about the IRA (Inflation Reduction Act) and you can argue it’s simply a call for German subsidies to industry — a cry that’s getting louder later.

Posted by: Konami | May 12 2023 1:02 utc | 212

The British government may be provoking a Russian attack, according to Gilbert Doctorow who is in St Petersburg, Petrograd, Leningrad, Petersburg). He points out that the long range rockets Britain is supplying, together with training and (in my view) probably RAF personnel, could lead to large scale civilian casualties in Russia. And this would lead to demands for the same in the UK.
“…I can easily imagine the popular reaction in Russia of a Ukrainian rocket attack on Sevastopol that killed, say 400 civilians. There would be a great public uproar and it is hard to see how the Kremlin could avoid responding with its own devastating counter blow. But counter blow against whom? Against the Ukrainians or against those truly responsible for the atrocity, namely the British? Here is where the current strong dislike for “Anglo-Saxons” in Russia may come into play. It comes on top of the recent Russian outrage over delivery of depleted uranium artillery shells to Ukraine by Britain.
“In effect, by delivering these weapons to Ukraine Britain is wrecking the hitherto generally accepted notion that the war between Russia and Ukraine will be decided on the battlefield. That is precisely how the EU’s foreign policy and security chief Borrell put it more than half a year ago. Instead the outcome in Ukraine may now be decided by a war between Russia and Britain. This is a war that Britain is as likely to lose as the ongoing war being fought by Ukraine. And what comes after that? A full NATO-Russia war? A nuclear war?
“The dangers have now been vastly raised by Mr. Sunak’s ill-conceived decision on arms shipments to Ukraine. It would be a positive step towards their own survival if EU authorities took cognizance of this British idiocy and brought their British colleagues to their senses.”
https://gilbertdoctorow.com/

Posted by: bevin | May 12 2023 1:08 utc | 213

@55 The US defeat in Syria was catastrophic and marked the end of their hegemony. It’s the reason former vassals like Saudi Arabia ignored imperial demands and restored relations with Iran & Syria. They know that it’s now safe to tell you “no”, and can act in their own interests. Even the quisling governments of occupied Europe will eventually realize this.
Your dying empire will end if it can’t punish Russia for protecting Syria.
@132 That Taibbi article was good. The US sees any rejection of their propaganda as wrongthink that was surely caused by exposure to ‘disinformation’. Like we are baby ducks who somehow got imprinted on the wrong mother. It’s why the Ministry of Truth sends people here to lead us back to imperial salvation.

Posted by: Jesrad | May 12 2023 1:09 utc | 214

https://t.me/sonar_21/2969
“Nice little Europistan you have here. Pity if something were to happen to it.”

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 12 2023 1:10 utc | 215

Aggressively used Challengers will create havoc among Russian tankers. 10:1 ratios of tank loses are likely if tank units encounter each other.

Posted by: Wokechoke | May 12 2023 1:20 utc | 216

@wokechoke 223
Thanks for the laugh information.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 12 2023 1:28 utc | 217

Some videos for today.
Kiev regime shelling leaves five, including child, wounded in the Donetsk Republic:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/RELENTLESS_SHELLING_1105:1
Russian Ka-52 helicopters take out Kiev regime strongholds and equipment:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Ka-52_1105:8
Russian self-propelled 2S1 ‘Gvozdika’ howitzer on firing duty:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/2S1_Gvozdika_1105:2
Russian Msta-B howitzer team in action:
https://rutube.ru/video/7773562cfe80f2b60c34ec8d943a0ab2/

Posted by: Nate | May 12 2023 1:32 utc | 218

@ Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 11 2023 23:50 utc | 194
What caliber are these new US guns?

Posted by: BroncoBilly | May 12 2023 1:32 utc | 219

BroncoBilly | May 12 2023 1:32 utc | 226
Challenging my memory there a bit. 338 comes to mind, I don’t recall much mention of 50 browning.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 1:39 utc | 220

Here’s a thread on what is – and is not – a kinzhal
https://twitter.com/ronzheimer/status/1656363884763050002

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2023 1:44 utc | 221

Peter;
I believe you are correct.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | May 12 2023 1:50 utc | 222

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2023 0:58 utc | 215
The Russian flanks at the base of the Bakhmut pincher are vulnerable and a natural target for Ukrainian counter-offensive actions.
Realizing this, Russian military set up layered defenses on these flanks, so-called crumple zones where retreat is a tactical given should Ukraine push hard in these areas.
That is what happened in those 500m, a designed retreat to a stronger position behind a canal which leads to the dispersal of Ukrainian inertia.

Posted by: Eclavdra | May 12 2023 1:51 utc | 223

If you’ve habituated MoA for five or more years and look at what’s afoot now, the situation is very clear–the trolls are here to drown any attempts at discourse using a wide variety of ploys. The same is at work most everywhere as is documented by the Conspiracy Industrial Complex article I wrote about earlier today on the open thread.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2023 20:49 utc | 132
This. thanks, karlof1.

Posted by: juliania | May 12 2023 1:51 utc | 224

“Aggressively used Challengers will create havoc among Russian tankers. 10:1 ratios of tank loses are likely if tank units encounter each other.
Posted by: Wokechoke | May 12 2023 1:20 utc | 223”
LoL the LGBT bar is open

Posted by: Comandante | May 12 2023 1:54 utc | 225

“I ask one more time: Why is Wagner in Ukraine? The Russian Army had overwhelming advantages; it never needed help from mercenaries. Why are they there?”
Russia didn’t and still doesn’t have enough infantry for storming cities. That is what Wagner is there for. Very high fatality rates in such operations.

Posted by: Eclavdra | May 12 2023 1:57 utc | 226

English Outsider | May 11 2023 23:52 utc | 195–
Thanks for your reply. I suggest reading the Global Times items I posted to the non-ukie thread as they contain important info affecting your thesis. Yes, the demographic issue as I’ve written many times is very important for Russia, but so is security and the lives being saved in historic Novorossiya. As indicated in other comments, the narrative is turning as the Grand Plan has failed.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2023 2:00 utc | 227

Again, is this what happens when you “prepare for war” for 8 years?
This is looking more and more like the Eastern Front in WWI, when capable generals like Kornilov and Brusilov repeatedly launched successful and potentially war winning offensives and were as repeatedly forced to withdraw because incompetent and corrupt generals who were court favourites failed to support their advance.
https://t.me/sonar_21/2980

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 12 2023 2:04 utc | 228

Posted by: juliania | May 12 2023 1:51 utc | 31

The same is at work most everywhere as is documented by the Conspiracy Industrial Complex article I wrote about earlier today on the open thread.

Thanks, I’ll have to go back and read. I’ve been thinking we should have an open trolling thread concerning what’s a trolling.

Posted by: Forest | May 12 2023 2:05 utc | 229

juliania | May 12 2023 1:51 utc | 231
I will second that.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 2:13 utc | 230

Biswapriya Purkayast | May 12 2023 2:04 utc | 236
Sonar21 is here https://sonar21.com
Your idiot trolling kiddies grade.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 2:18 utc | 231

Another prediction b? Given your track record you might want to ease-up on the prognosticating.

Posted by: Longhorn | May 12 2023 2:21 utc | 232

Melaleuca@210….economy of words, a lost art

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 12 2023 2:25 utc | 233

Re Karl’s comment on Outraged whacking the moles. Gruff is also MIA. I hope he is okay.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 2:34 utc | 234

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 0:53 utc | 213
Excellent video Peter, thanks for pointing it out. I rarely watch them but my trust in your recommendation was worthwhile.

But what we are seeing now is also very different. This is the changing of an era.

From about the ten or eleven minute mark onward this is the best illustration of what we are witnessing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xguam0TKMw8

Posted by: jonku | May 12 2023 2:48 utc | 235

I’ve been thinking we should have an open trolling thread concerning what’s a trolling.
Posted by: Forest | May 12 2023 2:05 utc | 237
“Trolling” is any information which threatens the world-view of the Putin sycophants here at the group-think echo chamber known as MoA.

Posted by: Longhorn | May 12 2023 2:55 utc | 236

Please go back and review The Saker leading up the SMO. Was he a Troll or a Grifter?
“It would take Russia less than a week to destroy the Ukie military. By the time the first US jarheads land in Germany or Poland, it will all be over.”
http://thesaker.is/tuesday-morning-headlines-a-little-change-of-tone-or-not/
One week to defang Ukraine with standoff weapons. Maybe if Putin hadn’t used those weapons to hit empty warehouses and repair factories (Ukraine repairs nothing!)
“Russia has the means to defang the Ukie military using only standoff weapons, Russian military experts believe that such an operation would take a week or even less.”
http://thesaker.is/is-there-a-deal-being-prepared-behind-the-scenes/

Posted by: Clyde | May 12 2023 3:01 utc | 237

Longhorn | May 12 2023 2:55 utc | 244
You are a shorthorn steer sitting in a basement at a foggy bottom troll factory.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 3:01 utc | 238

jonku | May 12 2023 2:48 utc | 243
I have readhistory on the riseand fall of civilizations, though mostly in the military context. That video putting it in the context of economic rise and fall through history is something that cuts through the current propaganda and bullshit. Thanks for the feedback.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 3:16 utc | 239

Typos…

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 3:38 utc | 240

The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!! I’m so concerned. MSM tells me Ukraine has moved a tank 2 feet closer to the line of contact, Russian defeat is imminent. Always so many idiots screaming and yelling before the Ukes get a thumping then silence. Rinse and repeat. You’d think they’d get tired of posting their masters talking points and being proven wrong over and over again. That Langley money must be damn good to keep coming back. Enjoy watching your Nazi heros get demolished yet again.

Posted by: Watzov | May 12 2023 3:43 utc | 241

2 company sized counter offensive? i mean thats the numbers put up so far. are you all entertained yet

Posted by: hankster | May 12 2023 3:44 utc | 242

Breaking. Nato expended massive amounts of estrogen in their failed offensive.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 4:08 utc | 243

@Posted by: SwissArmyMan | May 12 2023 0:37 utc | 211
Yes, nobody would willingly relocate to the USA. Too low quality labor force. Americans are just losers, fentanyl and cannabis addicts.
The USA did not even shoot itself in the foot with this war. It shot itself in the head.

Posted by: FVK | May 12 2023 4:10 utc | 244

JustAMaverick #13
Thank you for the link. It kind of reinforces the theory that all govts have the same rot that is so evident in the west.
Are we watching theater being played out as if this is a real war? It is starting to look like it.

Posted by: Trimbly | May 12 2023 4:14 utc | 245

@Posted by: Longhorn | May 12 2023 2:55 utc | 244
Which information was that? Fake news about massive offensives that didn’t actually happen filling the first pages of this comment section?

Posted by: FVK | May 12 2023 4:19 utc | 246

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 11 2023 20:27 utc | 113
NATO has already attacked directly Russian strategic bombers […] as well as the Kremlin in the center of Moscow. There was no response.

This must be qualified. There was no response that we know of. And what we know is just the mediasphere, twittersphere and assorted spheres.
Posted by: Madame Guillotine | May 11 2023 23:47 utc | 193

Doesn’t matter at all whether they responded covertly. Based on the info we have, they didn’t. And there was an obvious tit for tat — they could have at least sent some drones to light up some firecrackers and pour some paint on top of the coronation, but that did not happen.
What matters is the optics — Russia looks weak and pathetic.
BTW, go back to the Cuban missile crisis. This is the second moment (after the Sino-Soviet split the previous year) when the USSR started losing the Cold War (even though for the next 10-15 years it defeated the West in most of the proxy conflicts and the map of the world grew redder). Why? Because while in the end it was a fair exchange — the US withdrew its nukes from Turkey, the USSR theirs from Cuba — only the latter was made publicly known at the time, so it looked like an L for the Soviets.
These things matter.
And again, in this case there is zero evidence there was any response whatsoever, and with 100% certainty there was no symmetric answer (no governmental building in the West was on fire).

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 12 2023 4:26 utc | 247

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 11 2023 19:17 utc | 55

” The side with “Western weapons and training” was the losing side in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. Ukraine won’t be different.
Posted by: Jesrad | May 11 2023 17:53 utc | 15 ”
Absolutely correct. The US was pushed out from Syria and Iraq with their tails between their legs,
and now they’re even retreating from Lebanon. What losers.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/newly-released-images-massive-us-embassy-compound-lebanon-prompt-questions/5818780

what a crap !
are you confused ?
…..The US was pushed out from Syria….
that’s bad enough
even better :
…..retreating from Lebanon…
the link talks about:

……Photographs of the building site of a new US embassy compound in
Lebanon…..

!!!!!

Posted by: ghiwen | May 12 2023 4:40 utc | 248

“It would take Russia less than a week to destroy the Ukie military. By the time the first US jarheads land in Germany or Poland, it will all be over.”
http://thesaker.is/tuesday-morning-headlines-a-little-change-of-tone-or-not/
One week to defang Ukraine with standoff weapons. Maybe if Putin hadn’t used those weapons to hit empty warehouses and repair factories (Ukraine repairs nothing!)
“Russia has the means to defang the Ukie military using only standoff weapons, Russian military experts believe that such an operation would take a week or even less.”
http://thesaker.is/is-there-a-deal-being-prepared-behind-the-scenes/
Posted by: Clyde | May 12 2023 3:01 utc | 245

That’s the infuriating thing — they can indeed disable the AFU in a week if all the tools at their disposal were used seriously, and that without strategic nuclear bombing. And it would have been much easier early in the SMO before the West interfered.
It is very straightforward:
1) Physically eliminate the leadership
2) Disable the transport infrastructure (bridges are key here)
3) Finally hit the power grid seriously (meaning the generators and the 750-kV transformers, not merely the smaller transformers) and the refineries
4) Seal the borders (for this small nukes will be needed, e.g. a nuclear Kalibr being sent inside the tunnel under the Carpathian mountains)
5) Shoot down some NATO ISR assets to make it clear no more such support will be allowed
Most of that can be done in a single day actually, not even a week (hunting down the generals and colonels will take the most time).
But to this day there is very little in terms of attempting to isolate even the immediate battlefield zone, let alone the deeper rear. Take the disgrace in Bakhmut for example — so much fighting to block the roads to Chasov Yar (which positions were then surrendered without a fight in largely 24 hours) but if they wanted to really block the road, a single FAB-1500 would have done the job a long time ago. We’ve seen the craters from those things.
https://twitter.com/PacGeopolitics/status/1515472929160531969
https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1652572863873036289
But those roads are not touched at all.
The Saker wasn’t wrong in thinking they can do it, but was completely disconnected from reality regarding what was actually happening.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 12 2023 4:40 utc | 249

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 12 2023 4:26 utc | 255
Optics are incredibly important in America. We are the land of marketing and the American Dream. And American Boomers still believe the lies their TV told them in 1962.
But we still lose all these wars.
What is more important, to win the Cuban Missile Crisis (Moscow did, the Jupiters were removed from Turkey) or for Americans to think they won it?

Posted by: Marshall Ney | May 12 2023 4:40 utc | 250

What is more important, to win the Cuban Missile Crisis (Moscow did, the Jupiters were removed from Turkey) or for Americans to think they won it?
Posted by: Marshall Ney | May 12 2023 4:40 utc | 258

Moscow definitely lost the Cuban missile crisis in the long run — there are US nukes in six different locations in Europe today, plus Aegis Ashore very close to its borders.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 12 2023 4:42 utc | 251

shadowbanned | May 12 2023 4:26 utc | 255
Nato appears to have a large supply of estrogen.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 4:45 utc | 252

english 197 23:52
“Scaling up for population size [20,000 dead] what the US lost in the Vietnam war”
—-
US pop 1970: 200M
Russia pop 2022: 145M
20,000 * [200M/145M] = 28,000
compared to 58,000 in Vietnam.
This is still a lot of dead soldiers, but is it possible
to check claims for basic arithmetic?

Posted by: Cindy Martin | May 12 2023 4:51 utc | 253

shadowbanned | May 12 2023 4:42 utc | 259
This is like saying Germany won the Battle of Berlin “in the long run” because the Soviets left 40 years later.

Posted by: Marshall Ney | May 12 2023 4:57 utc | 254

That time in Bangkok. My idiot daughter nearly got me in a fight. Her woke stupidity.
I pushed her back behind me and shut her down. That bloke did not live in the faggot world. He turned to me, not my daughter.
I always remember a man like that. I have no idea who he was but he was hard as nails.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 12 2023 5:32 utc | 255

113 shaddowbanned
Dude you answered your own question. Russia is clearly wanting to slow things down. Their latest cutting edge weapons only recently went into mass production. Every week delay works in their favour. Also China needs another year to prepare to take Taiwan.

Posted by: Merandor | May 12 2023 5:38 utc | 256

Posted by: james | May 12 2023 4:57 utc | 262
I am pretty certain that the post above, 262 by james, is not the same james who has been posting here for quite a while. Sorry new james but you are confusing us with the name, please pick another. At least your post is sensible and in grammatical english.
Barfly james is probably in a jazz club or maybe a juke joint, strolling across an archaic stone bridge, or perhaps flying home. Boy will his arms be tired.
Oops almost said stoner bridge there.

Posted by: jonku | May 12 2023 5:42 utc | 257

This thread is suddenly filled with psyop operators and their variations pushing everything in the spectrum from concern trolling to outright anti Russian doomerism.
It correlates strongly with the patterns I’m seeing on YouTube and other mainstream Media sources.
It’s a coordinated psyop and a good chunk of the posters here today have heard their master’s voice and gone forth to muddy the waters in support of the Ukrainian Nazi ‘offensive’ (looking at you “shadowbanned” and “neofeudalfuture”) …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 12 2023 5:43 utc | 258

Posted by: Cindy Martin | May 12 2023 4:51 utc | 261
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties#United_States_armed_forces
United States armed forces

U.S. Vietnam War deaths
Casualties as of 4 May 2021:
58,281 KIA or non-combat deaths (including the missing and deaths in captivity)
153,372 WIA (excluding 150,332 persons not requiring hospital care)
1,584 MIA (originally 2,646)
766–778 POW (652–662 freed/escaped, 114–116 died in captivity)

And a lot of people came back with PTSD, and/or an opioid addiction, and/or “issues”.

Posted by: Babel-17 | May 12 2023 5:45 utc | 259

Reading some of the first 100 comments almost lowered my testosterone levels, would have been more dangerous if I hadn’t been yawning at the sheer stupidity of people falling for such obvious lies.
Obviously they are going to use inflatable kayaks to attack across the rivers, towing their artillery and tanks. Each artillery unit towed by 12 kayaks, when only 4 are needed, because they expect losses from shrapnel puncturing their kayaks. Each tank will be towed by 96 kayaks. My flock of chickens spelled this out for me this afternoon, some Ukrainian geese wintering nearby let them in on the secret plan.
Since it is a surprise attack, they will quickly take all the Russian ammunition and food supplies so they won’t need to worry about supply lines being vulnerable to Russian artillery and glide bombs. All the Telegram channels said it, so it must be true.

Posted by: Explico | May 12 2023 5:54 utc | 260

No Chronicle today. Just the summary

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation on the Fronts in the Evening of 11 May 2023; pub. 00:04⚡️
🇺🇦 The AFU Offensive has begun. On the front there is still only reconnaissance fighting, but already with local successes. In the media field 404 is also beginning to act, trying to intimidate and confuse both civilians and our fighters. The only way to resist is to pull together and endure, ignoring the media noise.
⚔️ The Situation on the Fronts over the past Day:
🔹#Svatovo – #Kremennaya Direction:
Near #Kremennaya without much change, positional fighting continues. But our fighters lose no time – especially snipers who skilfully clear the strongholds from the enemy.
➖ Russian forces, supported by artillery, attacked militant positions near #Belogorovka and #Makeyevka.
➖ In addition, our forces attempted to advance near #Stelmakhovka and #Masyutovka.
🔹#Artyomovsk (#Bakhmut) Sector:
▪️The “Orchestrators” 👉 continue to storm the western outskirts of #Artyomovsk. In the northwest of the city, ours have advanced along Tolbukhin, Medvedev and Chernyakhovsky Streets. Also under the control of the “Orchestra” positions around the intersection of Zashchitnikov and Levanevsky Streets. To the south, ours reached 1st forest street.
➖ At the same time, the AFU intensified on the flanks and went on the offensive in several areas. The militants occupied several strongholds. In addition, in the area of #Bogdanovka, ours lost several square kilometres.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
➖ The Russian army is trying to break through the militants’ defences west of the H20 section near #Novobakhmutovka.
➖ Positional fighting continues to the east of the sand pit.
➖ Also, ours expanded the zone of control from the direction of #Opytnoye.
💥 Russian Air Defence shot down an Ukrainian Su-25 near Chervony Mayak in #Kherson region.

https://t.me/sitreports/8515

Posted by: Down South | May 12 2023 5:57 utc | 261

Our source in the OP said that Syrsky told Zelinsky about the start of the first stage of the counter-penetration near Bakhmut, which should allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to move the enemy away from the road of life.
In several sectors of the front, it was possible to open the first redoubts of defense, as well as to advance several kilometers in the fields near Krasnoe.
At the moment, fighting continues in several directions around Bakhmut, in the city of the Armed Forces of Ukraine they continue to hold the area of high-rise buildings.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17712

Posted by: Down South | May 12 2023 5:59 utc | 262

❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Highlights of Russian Military Operation in Ukraine on May 11.
▪️ In Bryansk region, Ukrainian UAVs undertook the attack at oil depot near Klintsy.
As a result of the detonation, the concrete base and the oil storage tank were damaged.
▪️ Another attack of the UAVs in Bryansk region was carried out in the city of Starodub.
At least three munitions were dropped on the military recruitment office building. No serious damage was reported as a result of the incident.
▪️ The AFU continue strikes on the village of Tetkino in Kursk Region.
The attack knocked out a power substance, resulting in power outages in neighboring communities.
▪️ Russian Air Force again bombed AFU facilities in Chernihiv Region.
Powerful explosions are reported locally in the areas of Shostka and Novhorod-Sivers’kyi.
▪️The Wagner PMC’s assault groups continue to press the Ukrainian units last entrenchment on the outskirts of Bakhmut.
The advance parties are attacking from the north and south simultaneously, trying to flank the complex of high-rise buildings on Jubilee Street.
▪️ The AFU command once again launched a series of counterattacks on the flanks of the advancing group in Bakhmut, aiming to push Russian forces away from the road to Chasiv Yar.
In the area of Bohdanivka, the AFU managed to move the contact line away from the vital route.
▪️ The assault operation to capture the Avdiivka entrenchment continues: Russian units are advancing simultaneously from several directions.
In the Kam’yanka and Opytne areas, several AFU entrenchments have been liberated and the control zones have been significantly expanded.

https://t.me/geromanat/6177

Posted by: Down South | May 12 2023 6:02 utc | 263

“Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has been blocked from making an address at the Eurovision Song Contest ahead of the final this weekend.
The European Broadcasting Union (EBU), which produces the contest, said it had declined Mr Zelenskyy’s request to address the event’s audience on Saturday.”

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | May 12 2023 6:20 utc | 264

I concur that the post at 262 is likely not james, cause james isn’t so rude.

Posted by: Featherless | May 12 2023 6:21 utc | 265

Posted by: Konami | May 12 2023 0:26 utc | 207
The Elite (Godfathers) are not stupid – they are astonishingly brilliant at what they do, and I marvel at their genius. But they are psychopaths, and this leaves them intellectually impoverished. They cannot conceive any course of action other than violence and control, and they are obsessed with slaughter and domination. This means that they will be completely thrashed by collaborations such as Putin and Xi.

Posted by: Tim | May 12 2023 6:32 utc | 266

The European Broadcasting Union (EBU), which produces the contest, said it had declined Mr Zelenskyy’s request to address the event’s audience on Saturday.”
Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | May 12 2023 6:20 utc | 274

Interesting and good news. So someone decided that Selensky’s face might be bad for business. It was about time.
Not that I care about ESC but I can totally see how people who want clear, unabated pop escapism don’t want to be reminded of the war, the refugees, the cost of living crisis, grift and nuclear weapons…

Posted by: Konami | May 12 2023 6:35 utc | 267

re: Ho Le Phuc | May 12 2023 5:00 utc | 264
Thanks, you made me laugh. Needed it after trying to read through this thread.

Posted by: Perimetr | May 12 2023 6:38 utc | 268

Military summary has lot of details what’s going on around Bakhmut. The most obviously dangerous thing that could happen is in the vicinity and east of Soledar, where the main supply road runs to Bakhmut. Apparently Ukraine managed to send something south from Seversk. We don’t know the true story without knowing force ratios in this area, but we know Ukraine is ready to take unlimited losses to achieve territorial gains.
Dima also said that western tanks and Stryker AFVs have been seen in Kharkov. They can be distributed toward Belgorod and Kupyansk. This is actually what Aleks on BMA said, there’s possibly a large feint offensive consisting most of the western tanks toward Belgorod. And the attack in the south would come later. Just speculating.

Posted by: unimperator | May 12 2023 6:44 utc | 269

The Elite (Godfathers) are not stupid – they are astonishingly brilliant at what they do, and I marvel at their genius. But they are psychopaths, and this leaves them intellectually impoverished. They cannot conceive any course of action other than violence and control, and they are obsessed with slaughter and domination. This means that they will be completely thrashed by collaborations such as Putin and Xi.
Posted by: Tim | May 12 2023 6:32 utc | 276

(Sorry for potential self follow-up.)
I agree that they know no moral/ethical restraints, that they are insidious and probably literally capable of sacrificing their own offspring (and clearly: their “peoples”) if the price is good enough.
About violence: they know a lot of modes below direct violence/warface, especially on the interior: although police converges to “faux army against population” in so many places in the West (TM), the propaganda operation against us is still much larger.
About control: I agree. There’s some stereotypes that the West can only think in terms of zero-sum games, so that mutual trust & benefit is unthinkable. Don’t know if true but looks more likely every year I have to witness the madness. I very much hope (cannot pray as an atheist) that your last sentence is true: I believe the relationship China-Russia is deeper and way more trustful than anything in the western bloc. There’s a chance that Western decline will avoid total human catastrophe. I lived through Easter decline and I already know that the USA won’t make way like USSR did. They cannot fold, their default mode is to double down.

Posted by: Konami | May 12 2023 6:45 utc | 270

Ukraine is going to be a Russian satellite, after all, just like it has been for the past 200 years. Surely you’re not as stupid as you pretend?
Ukraine did not exist………..your premise is so flawed that you must be wholly ignorant of European History. Odessa was a Greek trader city created by Catherine The Great in 1794…….the Donbas was Russian territory………..
What you call “Ukraine” was created by V I Lenin and J Stalin who decided what populations were attached to which areas………much as J Stalin decided that 100 miles of territory East of Berlin should be declared “Polish” and populated with people from Galicia……………
How do you feel about the Oder-Neisse Line ?
GERMANY is the one that played with Ukraine – read Treaty of Brest-Litovsk 1918 Art VI – it was the same Germany that played with Ukraine 1918 and 1941 and 1991 and 2014…………it is why Germany gives Ukrainians FULL ACCESS to the Welfare System and permits them to teach in German schools in Ukrainian and why utility boxes have been painted yellow and blue across German towns until Poles go out and paint them red and white……
and why Ukrainians unlike Germans do not have to give up their cars when they get welfare……..and why it is so “dangerous” that there are regular bus schedules from London and German cities to Ukraine – funny it seems they are cheaper from UK

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 12 2023 6:46 utc | 271

I read a new post on Pepe Escobar’s Telegram channel today in which he states he now believes Prigozhen’s comments are rooted in truth. I recommend you check it out. He also includes a link to another article on substack by someone I am unfamiliar with, that doesn’t pull it’s punches. Here it is:
https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/alex-mercouris-continues-to-play?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
Given today’s recent news from the frontline, I have concerns that he is correct. I believe things may be far more rotten in the house of Russia than I had hoped. If these accusations are correct, we have a race to the bottom with the loser being the side that is the most, inept and corrupt.
I know this post will upset many….hell it upset me, but while I support Russia and consider their cause a just one, I do not allow my bias to encroach on my critical thinking. I look for truth, not spin by any side.
Posted by: JustAMaverick | May 11 2023 17:50 utc | 13
I too have mentioned the possibility that we are looking at a fake war with Russia and China for WEF reasons and boosting the MIC profits. Not that I am heavily invested in the idea, but seems it is always better to maintain some cynicism, especially as both Russia and China have Central Banks which we know are controlled by the western banking oligarchy, why would this be? We too know a banking collapse is under way, or should we more correctly say reset.
Russia hasn’t been hurt, nor China at this stage, in fact the battlegrounds are not on either country’s soil, rather the fools in Ukraine and coming soon Taiwan. The referenced article would normally sound like a nationalist extremist except that the Russian/China cheerleader Pepe also gives it some credence. That in itself does mean it is worth considering, as he has always been pro-Russia establishment.

Posted by: Organic | May 12 2023 6:48 utc | 272

Posted by: Featherless | May 12 2023 6:21 utc | 275
James is usually polite, but you have to admit he was responding to a pretty moronic post.
Use nukes? What is up with the sixth column and their misplaced belief that nukes can be used without repercussions?
NATO would love Russia to use a nukes. NATO would love Russia to attack a target outside of Ukraine.
When someone is insisting Russia does exactly what NATO wants, who do you think they are working for?

Posted by: Eclavdra | May 12 2023 6:50 utc | 273

Konami | May 12 2023 6:35 utc | 277
I’ve seen the promo videos for this year, it’s like a little freak show. You remember last year some countries had different votes than those published on screen. It was a big issue, some said they are not going to participate anymore. Not a problem now, let’s fake another one.
I think Finland will “win”. Or one of the chihuahuas

Posted by: rk | May 12 2023 6:51 utc | 274

karlof1 @ 112
You are making an a priori assumption that Russia’s covid response was and is a nothingburger. A great many other assumptions.
Yes, the evidence you are looking for is absent or weak. That is normal. The evidence you respect is weaker than you think it is. Weakest links are usually unexamined premises.
Our knowledge is never as good as we imagine it is. Wild speculation is mostly just that. Sometimes it is a beginning

Posted by: oldhippie | May 12 2023 6:55 utc | 275

Another signal to Zelensky himself from the Western elite.
Increasingly, they began to “kindly” refuse Zelensky his personal PR on the Ukrainian crisis, although they support the Ukrainian issue. This time he was denied a request to make a video message at the Eurovision final.
We wrote that the Western lobby began to move away from the PR strategy of one Ze-hero, increasingly shifting the focus to the same Zaluzhny.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15319

Posted by: Down South | May 12 2023 7:05 utc | 276

I am not so sure about the intelligence of these elites.
Neither there publications nor their acts or the personell they chose strike me as very brilliant.
If you look at the people they chose to transmitt the project, the UvLs, Baerbocks, macrons… they are mediocre at best and obviously stupid at worst. Thats a sign of the capacities of those in power. People who are intelligent are not afraid of hiring other intelligent people. People who arent generally dont do that out of fear. The goals and publications arent well thought through and neither very consistent nor striking. Look at klaus’ and hara(ki)ris’ publications. They just arent intelligent.
But even if they were geniuses, it is a pretty useless trait when it drowns in ideology which doesnt allow them to judge realistically.
In the end they are just users of established tools and techniques. No different from kids of farmers who learn how to farm. Its just that they learned the art of manipulation and power.
I dont see any brilliancy. Given the money and power they have, it strikes me as very simplistic.

Posted by: Orgel | May 12 2023 7:07 utc | 277

Having worked with Storm Shadow I am just interested how they plan to deploy it. It’s a centre under load weapon and I fail to see any Ukrainian aircraft being able to launch it.

Posted by: Scot1and | May 12 2023 7:08 utc | 278

@ Posted by: rk | May 11 2023 19:48 utc | 83
-Little troll, Pepe left Moscow already, was a simple visit, no “relocation”-
If only there wasn’t a Pepe Escobar Sputnik interview where he literally says ‘I have a new life starting in Moscow this year’ in the first minute:
https://t.me/rocknrollgeopolitics/6990
You don’t like my post, deal with it, don’t shoot the messenger.
And if you don’t understand the significance of a staunch pro-Kremlin journalist looking at the Prighozhin/MOD saga with some due skepticism, then go and read Martyanov’s and Saker blogs and be part of the cult.
The only trolls here are narrow minded, opinionated people like you who use names instead of sharing facts or arguments as encouraged by the owner of this blog.

Posted by: Et Tu | May 12 2023 7:41 utc | 279

Dima: “The Front Line Is Stirring. Wagner Controls The Situation At Bakhmut. Military Summary For 2023.5.12”
Why is Wagner being glorified?

Posted by: srbin | May 12 2023 7:43 utc | 280

Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President once again became convinced of the correctness of tough decisions to ban journalists and PTOs from commenting on the situation at the front.
Bankovaya will continue to tighten its information policy to cover events from the front, so as not to sow panic in the network, as Russian LOMs do.
The CIPSO was instructed to intensify the work in the Russian telegram with the spread of panic and the scale of the counteroffensive in order to cause panic among the enemy LOMs.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17714

Posted by: Down South | May 12 2023 7:49 utc | 281

Putin could have preempted this by mobilizing a million men in March 2022, and completely smashing Ukraine before Western weapons started flowing in, and cutting off the escalation cycle. He didn’t do it, and now he faces the choice of all out nuclear war or surrender.
Posted by: shadowbanned | May 11 2023 20:27 utc | 113
The war was already a shock for Russians back in March and to mobilize ordinary Russians for that could’ve caused a lot of protests. I think Kherson/Kharkov retreats happened only for a reason to mobilize more people since Kherson was already a part of Russia.
Russia is acting smart fighting Ukrainians at its border in a friendly environment so that it can keep logistics smooth while slowly integrating the joined regions. Moreover, do you believe that nato was ready to give up in the case of Russia surrounding Ukraine in a month or two? Imagine all the possible partisanship later on?
I think swallowing regions by regions by Russia once in a while is the only reasonable tactics economically and military wise. The slower it’ll be, the more of allies Russia can find, plus economic pressure for Europe would play against nato.

Posted by: Yuri | May 12 2023 8:02 utc | 282

here to drown any attempts at discourse using a wide variety of ploys. The same is at work most everywhere as is documented by the Conspiracy Industrial Complex article I wrote about earlier today on the open thread.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2023 20:49 utc | 132
Yes, the name authentication is insufficient..
IS it true persons imitating long known legitimate posters to this site might be guilty of identity theft or copyright theft..? Maybe there is a way to prosecute them? Law firms are great at tracking who did what?
It appears substantial damages may have been rendered..

Posted by: snake | May 12 2023 8:03 utc | 283

Posted by: Scot1and | May 12 2023 7:08 utc | 288
According to Russian TG the only plane Ukraine has that can carry the missile is the SU-24 bomber

Posted by: Down South | May 12 2023 8:08 utc | 284

@ Slavskiy is from the extremist wing of the Girkinite tendency, of which we have a few here as well.
Don’t believe me? Try posting your link over at Andrei M’s blog, see what reaction you get…

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 11 2023 20:51 utc | 134
LOL, Martyanov does have his points, but he has been wrong on plenty too and doesn’t mind spreading his own share of bs and fact free propaganda in amongst all his math formulas.
Not exactly a beacon of objectivity, so i don’t even bother looking at his comment section, too many olympic level mental gymnasts flying the flag in the echo chamber.

Posted by: Et Tu | May 12 2023 8:14 utc | 285

@ Scot1and | May 12 2023 7:08 utc | 288
@ Down South | May 12 2023 8:08 utc | 294

I read one SU-24 had been modified to carry Storm Shadow.

Posted by: too scents | May 12 2023 8:15 utc | 286

Andrei M. has weighed in:
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/05/how-many-times-to-repeat.html

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 12 2023 8:19 utc | 287

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Posted by: ghiwen | May 12 2023 4:40 utc | 256 ”
Sarcasm: Its not just for breakfast.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 12 2023 8:27 utc | 288

Aleks on BMA has a new interview with Mike Mihajlovic, who has 20 years of experience as an officer, military engineering, air defense expertise and intelligence, officer experience in air defense, intelligence and artillery and a captain in rank. They talk about:
“Logistics. This war is a huge logistics mess. It must be a nightmare for Ukraine and NATO to sustain dynamic logistics over the Dnieper. Listen to what Mike has to say about that.
“Artemovsk/Bakhmut, its significance, Wagner and Evgeny Prigozhin.
Air defense and the Ukrainian Air Force.
Some physics behind the Kinzhal hypersonic missile.
The alleged strike at the alleged NATO bunker in Western Ukraine with a Kinzhal.
And many more very interesting topics.”
Very interesting interview.
https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/interview-series-part-2

Posted by: unimperator | May 12 2023 8:34 utc | 289

The question is where is Valery Zaluzhny?
And,
has the counteroffensive had died in its own beginning?

Posted by: ostro | May 12 2023 8:38 utc | 290

Mercouris warned against believing the rumours that Zeluznhyi is dead. But be that as it may, this is not a good sign for the Ukie offensive as it shows, at a very minimum, that the Ukie decision-makers don’t see eye to eye.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 12 2023 8:40 utc | 291

@JustAMaverick | May 11 2023 17:50 utc | 13
@karlof1 | May 11 2023 20:26 utc | 112
Thanks Karl. I thought the rolo substack and comments stunk and can’t be bothered saying any more about it. Pepe’s concern is curious.
To all G Lira detractors, I point out, he has managed to attract the attention and concern of the incomparable Maria Zakharova..he still got game.
https://tass.com/society/1615669

Posted by: Ново з | May 12 2023 8:41 utc | 292

Mercouris warned against believing the rumours that Zeluznhyi is dead.
Posted by: Jonathan W | May 12 2023 8:40 utc | 301

Does this Mercouris has direct info from either Russia or Ukraine? Or, just another blogger trying to earn money from YouTube?

Posted by: ostro | May 12 2023 8:46 utc | 293

…asks someone on MoA blog.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 12 2023 8:47 utc | 294

ThusspakeZarathustra | May 12 2023 6:20 utc | 274
The European Broadcasting Union which produces the Eurovision Song Contest, said it had ***declined*** Mr Zelenskyy’s request to address the event’s audience on Saturday…..
^^^^^^^^^^^
Does @bar understand the importance of this?????? OMG😂🤣🥳
Ukraine was specifically selected to win last year, merit be fucked [it’s Eurovision what “merit”?]
And Britain was assigned second place precisely so it ~ Liverpool (home of the Beatles) was able to host on behalf of Ukraine.
The 2023 logo is a diabetes-inducing heart-Ukraine flag.
A BigNo to ClownZ… That’s more of a definite signal Ukraine is a used condom than anything USNATO or EU or vander-always-lyin’ could have semaphored.
I was absolutely certain ClownZ would be the Star of the Show, lauded and lionised.
Huh.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2023 8:49 utc | 295

Why did Zelensky suddenly lack something for the offensive?!
And if earlier at a distance of 30-50 kilometers the enemy felt relatively safe, then the work of aviation quickly rewrote this story.
There were strikes on places of accumulation of manpower, and on trains, and on sites with equipment. The more fat targets appeared, the faster they were destroyed.

Posted by: ostro | May 12 2023 8:50 utc | 296

Eurovision is rigged this year too. See how some crappy songs are predicted to do quite well, like the Finnish one – after Finland joined Nato.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 12 2023 8:50 utc | 297

“…fail to see any Ukrainian aircraft being able to launch it.…”
Posted by: Scot1and | May 12 2023 7:08 utc | 288
What that tells me…. An allocation of planes that *can* deployed it.
Ukraine pilots not trained on such planes…?
There’s a “solution” available for that….

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2023 8:53 utc | 298

Sands writes: “The rules of the Eurovision Song Contest are that it should not be political. A request from Ukraine to show a video of President Zelensky at the final was initially refused.”

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 12 2023 8:56 utc | 299

I don’t know if the vaunted Ukraine “counter-offensive” has started militarily, but it is beyond obvious it is well underway here at MoA. The Eeyore mewling is heavy this evening.

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | May 12 2023 9:00 utc | 300