5% of Marshall Plan funds were set aside for CIA Political Fuckery–this was revealed decades later.
(Source: LEGACY OF ASHES: The History of the CIA by Tim Weiner)
Posted by: Dulles_Did_Dallas | May 29 2023 3:34 utc | 203
Any relationship to DEBBIE DOES DALLAS?

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | May 29 2023 3:48 utc | 203

My point exactly. If Russia had to deal with such upstanding citizens on a regular basis then we would have a totally different conversation happening. Although, the ever multiplying ” Russians ” from the ‘stans are increasing Russia’s crime stats daily. Its only a matter of time.
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 28 2023 20:46 utc | 105″
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US incarceration statistics show a disproportionate number of Blacks in prison. However; African Americans comprise only 1/8th of the US population yet they commit about 3/5ths of all homicides and nearly 3/4ths of all gun homicides.
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | May 28 2023 20:19 utc | 100 ”
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African Americans are now demanding reparations of about $200 million per Black person. Many White Americans are in favor of repatriating Blacks back to Africa and demanding a refund. Alternatively, we could persuade African Americans to emigrate to Western Europe so that all of those diseases Eurotrash who castigate Americans for being racist can savor their companionship.
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | May 28 2023 21:42 utc | 119
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According to USA FACTS, which monitors our changing population in the United States, the total population of the US is 331,893,745. The demographic’s broken down by race is as shown:
Whites (non-Hispanic) According =59.3 %
Hispanic -Latino = 18,9 %
Black (non-Hispanic) = 12.6%
Asian (non-Hispanic or black) = 5.9%
Multiracial (non-Hispanic) = 2.3%
Native American / Alaskan (non- Hispanic) = 0.7%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander (non-Hispanic) 0.2%
So, what is the percentage of other than White -non- Hispanic citizens living in the UDA today = 38.3%
I think that the numbers are closing in on the white folks. If there was anything like justice in the universe, the Native American and Alaskan population would be at least in the thirty to forty %. And the Hawaiian people would still be in control of their Island with at least 90 to 95% of the island’s population being native to the island.
And since you two clowns with the funny names are so anti-African American, let’s not forget why they are he in the first place. Perhaps you guys could have a long discussion about how your lily-white slave masters’ ancestors paid good money to bring African Slaves tied in chains to the US to do the work your ancestors were too lazy and too stupid to do themselves.
Meanwhile, you have the balls to complain because the ancestors of the African Slaves that your ancestors brought to the US to work for nothing, are muttering about composition for their family (spouses, sons, daughters, and parents) who died during the long ocean voyage while they were chained together like sardines in a can.
And then there is the great wealth accumulated by the slave masters for free labor extracted from African slaves.
And DP, perhaps Russia doesn’t have a large African Russian population because they did purchase African slaves on the market.

Posted by: Ed | May 29 2023 4:34 utc | 205

Posted by: Jmaas | May 28 2023 23:44 utc | 155
First off acknowledging we’re way off topic here (but it’s late in the thread’s life, so…). None of that is a rebuttal. In fact it supports my point. You say they have “priors.” And you’re exactly right. They have priors for non-violent drug offenses and bullshit like resisting arrest, or even more bullshit like “disturbing the peace” which cops can give out for any reason whatsoever. In fact it’s exactly the point. Young black men have their ‘rap sheet’ so loaded up with nonsense that it’s always easy to point out “look he has priors. THREE STRIKES YOU’RE OUT!” despite no violent offenses at all, even up to the point where someone is finally accused of something actually violent. This is exactly what I was saying, BTW. Cops overpolice, overcharge Black men and they are then overprosecuted, oversentenced and overjailed. It’s just the truth. Again, whites use drugs more than blacks.
As to the rebuttal about it being a supposedly good thing that SOME black ‘hoods are “over-policed” – that’s also nonsense when you take into consideration the TYPE of policing that happens. It isn’t like a nice cop just hangs out on every corner and doesn’t do anything when he sees something that he doesn’t like, but isn’t against any law. What happens is the cops profile, target and take down black people in these neighborhoods at alarming rates – and does it do any good for the murder rates in St. Louis, Detroit, or Chicago (despite that those rates are LOWER than in so-called Red States?!)
No, that isn’t what’s happening and it’s also precisely what I was intoning. Black inner cities like Detroit and Chicago are policed in all the wrong ways. The non-criminal members of those communities constantly say they want MORE policing, but if you actually sit down and talk to them they are also saying DIFFERENT policing, but might consider accepting the current type if it actually cut down on shootings and gang bangers. Because it mostly doesn’t.
I would recommend a book called “On The Run” by Alice Goffman if I thought you might read it, but given your stances I doubt you would, and you can easily find a ton of overly pissed off “conservative” white guys who’ve never been in, much less had to live in, the inner city criticizing it. That doesn’t change the fact that it has some amazing, enlightening sociological lessons to be taught and learned. I’d also recommend “Racecraft” since “race” in the sense we are forced to accept the concept is bullshit.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 29 2023 4:56 utc | 207

Breaking! Zelensky is in hot water due to the catastrophe in Artemovsk and organizing militarily senseless raids on the Russian border for the purpose of an “info war”.
Zelensky is in serious danger because of two military groups in the Ukrainian army‼️
Zaluzhny despises Zelensky because of the disaster in Artyomovsk. Now the Ukrainian president is in serious danger, writes Serbian political scientist Drago Bosnic.
Relations between the political and military leadership of Ukraine could never be called harmonious. However, in recent months, the gap between these elites has widened so much that a military opposition has begun to form in Kyiv,
playing against Vladimir Zelensky and his supporters, the author writes.
According to Bosnić, the list of dissatisfied people includes former commanders who went through the Soviet military school, as well as active military officials and officers who were educated in NATO…
https://twitter.com/onlydjole/status/1662919444484505601

Posted by: unimperator | May 29 2023 5:33 utc | 209

@205 debisdead
Nothing will remain off limits forever, at some point anything goes.
For instance what would Hitler do?
I bet he wouldn’t hesitate to use anything. So what’s the lesson here? Total war, let them choke on horror.
Glorious victory.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 29 2023 5:34 utc | 211

#212 Hitler did not use chemical weapons, nor did the Japanese. Biological weapons were not used in Europe.
So if one side is using chemical weapons they are literally worse than Hitler.

Posted by: BillB | May 29 2023 5:42 utc | 213

@digital dinosaur | May 28 2023 21:58 utc | 124

I recall that the USSR was able to land a probe on the surface of Venus because they had engineered some very advanced materials able to take the heat & ablation.
So I am sure they have those skills well advanced for Kinzhal etc.

The Venera probes were entirely different things. The atmosphere of Venus is 100 times denser than on Earth, and therefore much, much warmer (~460C). After entry to the atmosphere, the probes were simply insulated from the heat to make them last for a few minutes in the lower atmosphere, making it possible to return a few photos from the surface.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2023 5:45 utc | 215

@kupkee | May 28 2023 22:43 utc | 136

As to Black Crime rates in the U.S.A. Blacks are 1/8 of the population true. But they also commit the vast majority of their crimes against 1/8th of the population – other blacks.

Is the US becoming Ukraine, or what is the basis for discussing domestic US issues on the Ukraine thread?

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2023 5:51 utc | 217

I see the trump supporters have arrived.
Good luck with that !

Posted by: Mark2 | May 29 2023 5:54 utc | 219

From a month or so back. But I think will be of interest to the techies here.
A thread on what the Russians now know about U$ drone surveillance.
{Maybe flying that drone into the Sevastopol NOTAM “no fly zone” wasn’t so clever after all}
https://twitter.com/Cicke69/status/1644463225306759168
>…RussianArmy has reportedly been able to recover valuable components of the downed #USA MQ-9 #Reaper #UAV in the Black Sea.
BInformation from JSC KRET and FGBU Central Research Institute of the #Russian Ministry of Defense shows that specialists from these organizations were able not only to study the pinout of the ultra-high frequency units of the APY-8 radar, but also determine the power parameters of its operation, including the inverse synthetic aperture (ISAR) and synthesized aperture (SAR) modes. ….
…> they can now calculate the magnification of the AN/AAS-52’s long-range optics and electronics: the infrared sighting and the TV module. The type or resolution of the matrix photodetectors used in it won’t be a secret either.
>… it will be possible to analyze the capabilities of the #USA complex to identify and classify #Russian military equipment at different distances and in different weather conditions.
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Debsisdead | May 29 2023 5:53 utc | 220
Yep.
psychohistorian | May 29 2023 5:34 utc | 211
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thewokendead | May 29 2023 5:51 utc | 218
Insecticide. For delousing. Also used on US Mexican border in 1920s.
Anne Frank died of typhoid.
https://www.thenation.com/authors/alexander-cockburn/

Zyklon B arrived in El Paso in the 1920s courtesy of the US government.
In 1929, for example, a Public Health Service officer, J.R. Hurley, ordered $25 worth of the material–hydrocyanic acid in pellet form–as a fumigating agent for use at the El Paso delousing station, where Mexicans crossed the border from Juárez.
Zyklon, developed by Degesch (short for the German vermin-combating corporation), was made in varying strengths, with Zyklon C, D and E representing gradations in potency and price.
As Raul Hilberg describes it in The Destruction of the European Jews, “strength E was required for the eradication of specially resistant vermin, such as cockroaches, or for gassings in wooden barracks.
The ‘normal’ preparation, D, was used to exterminate lice, mice, or rats in large, well-built structures containing furniture.
Human organisms in gas chambers were killed with Zyklon B.”

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 29 2023 6:18 utc | 221

It is always hilarious when the cowardly worthless EU and American slime get out their oligarch paedo law book of corrupt disgraced perverts to mask they are losing.
Their populations despise their lawyers more than their disgusting corrupt political trash.
I have gone from being a pro-NATO advocate to telling my family that never serve or die for the pervert Biden filth and laugh at the grubby shite that do.
Only when society and communities mock and humiliate the police and war criminal military shit of the oligarchy will things change. Why send your child to die for a sniffer Biden and his Blackrock perverts? A nation that mutilates their children and butchers babies at an industrial scale for profit.
Just laugh and mock the clowns in uniform and that war criminal veteran slime that carry out genocide for dirty old men of the Epstien child raping oligarchy.
Asov Nazis are for killing and those that lick their dirty pervert Banderite anus.
Bye bye #Axis Ukraine although you have exposed the NATO shit for the dirty filthy mass murdering corrupt pigs they are to the world.
Never ever show a their pigs uniform respect and hope their mother scream when they are destroyed and sent to hell.
God hates Nazis and NATO are Nazis – of that there is no doubt.

Posted by: Timbo | May 29 2023 6:39 utc | 223

Posted by: Roger | May 28 2023 23:59 utc | 161
Well said Roger. It’s clear from the intention to derail this otherwise excellent thread and others that deplorable and his zero value posts, is a western propaganda paid for troll. By forcing contributors to refute deplorable and MArjori Taylor Green fan fudd’s unsupported by evidence, nonsense claims it spoils an otherwise informative thread. Remember the objectives of a paid for troll are to disrupt the thread and try to make you give up reading and positively contributing to the thread.
Fudd, let me be clear, do not post off topic nonsense here. Your bigoted application of mythological statistics doesn’t equate to evidence, so don’t post it in this thread.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | May 29 2023 7:13 utc | 225

Jeffrey D. Sachs – The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/the-war-in-ukraine-was-provoked-and-why-that-matters-if-we-want-peace

Posted by: Apollyon | May 29 2023 7:48 utc | 227

Off topic
Re: US criminal Justice system
About 15 years ago, I had the pleasure (sic) of becoming intimately acquainted with the US criminal Justice system via a little fist fight at my factory.
Conclusion: every single employee and outside consultants (lawyers, therapists, various schools) in the unbelievably vast criminal Justice system is somehow accultured that the best and most profitable customer is a repeat customer job security for the system underlies every decision:
My observation was the system is rigged that once one has committed the slightest crime – you will fail probation, you will fail to meet a court date, you will fail to observe some obscure rule and be trapped for life
Naturally, the poorest and least educated members of society are the easiest victims to trap.

Posted by: Exile | May 29 2023 7:52 utc | 229

🇺🇦💸 On BlackRock’s role in the management of the Ukrainian economy
The financial octopus BlackRock has initiated a takeover of Ukraine under the guise of post-war reconstruction funds.
Officially, the funds are supposed to attract investments in energy, infrastructure and agriculture. In reality, however, they become a front to divert financial flows from Western countries to Ukraine.
When did BlackRock’s meddling in the Ukrainian economy come to light?
BlackRock was present in Ukraine even before 2022: the company’s investments in Ukrainian companies intensified dramatically after 2014. With the start of the SWO, the fund began to decisively penetrate Ukraine’s strategic sectors.
BlackRock’s cooperation with the Ukrainian government became publicly known on 19 September 2022, when Volodymyr Zelensky discussed with the organisation’s CEO Larry Fink the creation of a “Recovery Fund to support the Ukrainian economy”.
On 10 November 2022, a Memorandum of Understanding was signed between the Ukrainian Ministry of Economy and BlackRock. According to the document, the organisation was to establish a special investment fund of USD 25-100 billion, which, however, would focus solely on promoting the green agenda.
The agreement between the Ukrainian government and the world’s largest asset management fund, BlackRock FMA, on the creation of the Ukrainian Development Fund was signed on 8 May, and only formalises the processes of transferring the country’s main assets under the multinational’s control.
Current investment volume
Ukraine’s national debt currently stands at 89% of GDP, suggesting that the country is de facto under external control. BlackRock also holds large stakes in Ukrainian companies Metinvest, DTEK, Naftogaz, Ukrzaliznytsia, Ukravtodor and Ukrenergo.
Despite the hostilities, BlackRock is increasing its investments in the ‘Ukrainian project’. More than 17 million hectares of agricultural land out of the 40 million hectares currently in the land bank are already owned by international companies, including BlackRock-controlled Monsanto.
How will the BlackRock fund’s “international assistance” work out for Ukraine?
There is now an active sale of property before the state bankruptcy. Ukraine’s budget deficit is being covered by EU and IMF assistance. With this level of public debt obligations, Ukraine as a state is already pre-bankrupt by all accounts. The authorities in Kiev are likely to declare official bankruptcy when the asset purchases by BlackRock affiliates are completed.
The fact of bankruptcy will raise the question of state debt servicing and loan repayments, which are secured by Ukraine’s most valuable assets. And these assets will pass into the hands of the debt holder. The country will be sold in accordance with international law, which is necessary to further protect the assets.
In the Ukrainian media, this scenario is presented as proof that the entire civilised world knows how the conflict will end and makes investments on that basis. But in reality, BlackRock, which essentially manages the Fed’s issuance through its bond-buying programme, can painlessly print unsecured dollars and use them to buy real assets. That is why representatives of the multinationals involved in this operation are so confident that their investment will pay off. The model for managing such assets has already been tried and tested in Africa, Argentina, Brazil and Mexico. It is not about developing the country, but about exploiting it and making a profit.
Rybar

https://t.me/sitreports/9387

Posted by: Down South | May 29 2023 8:27 utc | 231

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 29 2023 0:44 utc | 176
“Reasonable men adjust themselves to the world; unreasonable men adjust the world to themselves: it follows that all progress and change depends on unreasonable men.”
“Lord give me the Patience to endure the things I cannot change,
And the courage to change the things I cannot endure.”

Posted by: GT Stroller | May 29 2023 8:30 utc | 233

State Department is questioned about Gonzalo Lira
https://twitter.com/i/status/1662944449373110280

Posted by: Apollyon | May 29 2023 8:33 utc | 235

MI6 has relayed intelligence to the Office of the President and the General Staff that the Russian General Staff continues to strengthen the defenses of ZNPP/Energodar and the surrounding villages.
According to British intelligence, the nuclear power plant is guarded by about 5,000 military personnel, of which 700-900 people are constantly at the station. At the same time, there is a group of 20 thousand people in the reserve, in neighboring villages and military units that have heavy equipment / helicopters.
The entire coast is mined and turned into a single complex of defensive structures in order to prevent the landing operation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18000

Posted by: Down South | May 29 2023 8:39 utc | 237

Do you know what the failure of the counter-offensive near Bakhmut is when the speakers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to pretend to be successful and report on 300-400 virtual meters! Two weeks have passed since the announced counteroffensive on the flanks, which Syrsky stopped last Sunday, but no one announced.
Armed Forces of Ukraine advanced by 350-450 meters in the Bakhmut area, – representative of the Eastern Group of Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Serhiy Cherevaty on the air of the telethon
If the counterattack by Bakhmut goes on at a similar pace, then we will liberate the city in 400-500 days. At the same time, it’s not even worth talking about the battle of the Sea of \u200b\u200bAzov …

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18002

Posted by: Down South | May 29 2023 8:41 utc | 239

🇺🇸🇺🇦🇷🇺An information operation under a false flag.
The office of the president has reached the next level of manipulation.
Bankovaya yesterday published a fragment of a meeting between Senator Graham and Zelensky, where he says that “Russians are dying, so this is the best money the US has ever spent.”
After that, a serious scandal erupted. At first, Peskov spoke out, then Medvedev got to the telegrams and called Graham an old fool.
After the scandal was allowed to flare up, a full video of the meeting came out, from which it is clear that this is a “glue” and the senator said these two phrases in different contexts☝🏻
The Americans on the Reuters website make it clear that it was Bankovaya who provided this fragment for the media, in which “there is no clear understanding that this phrase is not from this context.”
There are only photos on the office website, the video was thrown through the social. media, so Ophis cannot be directly blamed.
At the same time, “The word is not a sparrow”, Medvedev has already insulted Graham, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation has put him on the wanted list‼️
Gluing + social media + scandal time = false flag information operation.
It is obvious that the purpose of the information operation was to further quarrel the Russian Federation and the United States, not allowing Kyiv to be directly accused of provocation.
The operation was successful. Words flew out, no one will take them back.
The operation clearly fits into Bankova’s paradigm of “any escalation other than offensive,” which we are writing about.
The second conclusion: gluing has become a routine tool of the CPD at the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine.

https://t.me/ZeRada1/13937

Posted by: Down South | May 29 2023 8:45 utc | 241

@Debsisdead | May 29 2023 4:34 utc | 205

I couldn’t help but notice that freshly returned from the Luhansk & Donbass fronts, journalist iEarl Grey published some disturbing details of amerika’s support and training of hohols in Chemical Warfare manufacture and usage.

I am having technical problems in viewing Telegram videos on my desktop, so I searched Google for iEarlGrey’s YouTube channel. The first result was a link to his channel, but this is what followed:

Misinformation Monitor: February 2023
NewsGuard – https://www.newsguardtech.com › february-2023
20 Feb 2023 — Full-length Russian propaganda films justifying the war proliferate on YouTube, despite the platform’s ban on Russian state-funded media.

What happened to iEarlGrey? He’s seems to have gone a …
Reddit – https://www.reddit.com › WorldOfWarships › comments
5 Apr 2022 — He’s promoting nothing but Russian propaganda on his Youtube channel. He thinks he’s dropping truthbombs, but as he’s living in Russia, and …

The 3F formula of disinformation entrepreneurs: make it …
EU DisinfoLab – https://www.disinfo.eu › Publications
22 Sept 2022 — EU DisinfoLab coined the expression “disinformation entrepreneurs” to describe how some users are taking advantage of major events, such as the …

I do not know of anyone who actually follows NewsGuard or EU DisinfoLab, but they do dictate what the Western media writes.
On iEarlGrey’s YouTube channel I find a banner that says “BANNED til 10/06/23”. I do not know if this means June 10th or October 6th.
In Google’s favor I must say that their search engine also returned links to iEarlGrey’s other channels.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 29 2023 8:49 utc | 243

RuAF is claimed to have launched strike on an airbase in Khmelnitsky region
-5 aircraft disabled – no details what kind of aircraft.
-bomb and fuel storages on fire
https://twitter.com/ILRUSSO12/status/1663075634682134532

Posted by: unimperator | May 29 2023 9:11 utc | 245

@221Mark2. I spose its too much to think that you of course realise that you insistance that those who disagree w u are ignorantly labeled Trumpies is a big reason hes so popular? Your ignorance is like a neon sign at midnight. Highly visible. Good luck w that 🤡

Posted by: Tannenhouse | May 29 2023 9:27 utc | 247

@Petri Krohn | May 29 2023 8:49 utc | 245

On iEarlGrey’s YouTube channel I find a banner that says “BANNED til 10/06/23”. I do not know if this means June 10th or October 6th.

You can find iEarlGrey on
Odysee https://odysee.com/@iEarlGrey:9?view=home
Telegram https://t.me/iEarlGreyTV

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2023 9:31 utc | 249

Joker:
7 important military facilities, including an imported air defense installation, were hit by Russian missiles in Kiev.
It’s not about quantity, but quality. Ahahahahahahaha

Posted by: CIInd | May 29 2023 9:49 utc | 251

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | May 28 2023 23:22 utc | 146 “You think this is a game ?” “Peek a boo ! I can seee yoouu…”
Is trusting what someone says a game? Does West of England Andy | May 27 2023 20:04 utc | 44 think its a game when something is said but nothing is shown to back it up?

Posted by: Tim2 | May 29 2023 10:07 utc | 253

Posted by: Down South | May 29 2023 8:43 utc | 242
Why would the Ukrainians want to take an International MaxxPro off-road in their landscape. It was designed for the desert !!
It gets its armour from Plasan an Israeli company
This kit was never designed for Ukraine – they should have liked after their Soviet kit which was

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 29 2023 10:21 utc | 255

[246]
In my view I think the gloves need to come off now.
I am sure you are convinced of your own logic even if no-one else is !
Not really your business is it. Russia is fighting this war using its soldiers and its equipment. It is not asking you for donations or weapons or anything in fact.
Since it is Ukraine that is constantly getting money from UK and weapons and more attention that people losing their homes and jobs and hoping food banks can feed them – maybe it is London you should be addressing and Kiev since they are the teams you are currently backing…….and where you should have some influence.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 29 2023 10:25 utc | 257

The British kept India as was under control with a small administration by promoting the interests of one sect/tribe against its rivals. It did the same by utilising Bin Laden’s jihadists against the Serbs and recently Ukrainians against Russia.
Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2023 9:44 utc | 252

The plan for Ukraine is in fact to apply the Pakistani model, but to go much further.
If India was to be an independent country, Pakistan had absolutely no business being separate from it. Bangladesh too (which was part of Pakistan originally). It’s the same cultural and civilization space.
But Pakistan was carved out specifically in order to keep India weak. And, again, originally it was to be there on both sides of India, as Bangladesh was East Pakistan. Then Pakistan got nukes too.
Ukraine was to play a similar role, but the goal here is to not just have the nuclear knife at Russia’s throat at all times, but to break up Russia too. Which is presumably the long-term goal for China and India too — can’t have large countries that can be independent centers of power, they have to be balkanized and controlled.
However, Russia has a powerful military and can resist, while India in 1947 was in no position to stop the partition.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 29 2023 10:30 utc | 259

Reuters reports that the US senator’s words about the death of Russians are a montage of Zelensky’s office. And claims that it has a “real” recording of Zelensky’s meeting with Graham, in which the senator merely praises the resilience of Ukrainians.

Doesn’t really matter if it’s a montage in this particular case, he has said pretty much the exact same thing with no doubts about it being spliced previously too. It’s just that now he said it while being in Kiev, so it’s much more egregious.
Margarita Simonyan was fuming yesterday on Russian TV about it, calling for the descendants of Pavel Sudoplatov (th guy who killed Trotsky) to do their job. I would have preferred and drone strike while the bastard was still in Kiev, but either way, just do it. NATO tried to assassinate Putin, and various local leaders have been repeatedly targeted too, some successfully. Why should a scumbag like that be untouchable?

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 29 2023 10:34 utc | 261

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2023 9:44 utc | 252
Hope should always be present as being without it is kufr.
The south Asians (Indians like you say) will remain just as their masters taught them. Education, I mean proper education, not that inspired by the former masters, may help to free them. However, that is a long way off. Besides, the western gods of self over community, ie., personal enrichment and contempt for the poor, has overpowered or even bought the services of the local elites to the master’s subservience. Case in point, the national destructive policies of the elite capture in Pakistan.

Posted by: Sal | May 29 2023 10:37 utc | 263

Posted by: whirlX | May 28 2023 22:57 utc | 138
Great Kinzhal info.
Posted by: bevin | May 28 2023 23:21 utc | 145
Agreed, to keep everyone in steerage fighting each other. Some people never learn, a few aren’t even wrong by accident.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 29 2023 10:42 utc | 265

Looks like the 2nd Patriot system in Kiev had been destroyed, oh, sorry, damaged…

Posted by: ostro | May 29 2023 10:50 utc | 267

@62 BillB with regard to the obligations that NATO countries have to the collective defense of the alliance, the key phrase is this:
…”will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, ”
So why any (or all, or none) of the NATO countries could “deem it necessary” to go to war against the attacking force, they each get to make that decision for themselves.
In the hypothetic case that you posit I would think that the nutcases in Poland and the Baltic states would shout “We’re in!!!!!” without giving any thought to the consequences.
I would also think that France, Germany, Greece and Italy would have a collective feinting spell at the thought of going up against the Russian army, and would probably “deem it necessary” to shout I Always Said This Was A Dumb Idea and refuse to actually commit troops.
As always, it would depend what the USA “deemed”. I suspect the current bunch of no-hopers would emulate the Poles, which is never the smart play.
As for the UK, well, who cares what the yapping little lapdog thinks or does….

Posted by: Yeah, Right | May 29 2023 10:54 utc | 269

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 29 2023 10:30 utc | 261
“Pakistan was carved out specifically in order to keep India weak.”
My understanding is that the original British intention was to grant independence to historic “India” i.e. the entire subcontinent. The Muslim leadership destroyed this plan deliberately, with a series of “direct action days” which left thousands dead.
“The Muslim League had demanded since its 1940 Lahore Resolution for the Muslim-majority areas of India in the northwest and the east to be constituted as ‘independent states’. The 1946 Cabinet Mission to India for planning of the transfer of power from the British Raj to the Indian leadership proposed a three-tier structure: a centre, groups of provinces and provinces. The “groups of provinces” were meant to accommodate the Muslim League’s demand. Both the Muslim League and the Congress in principle accepted the Cabinet Mission’s plan. However, the Muslim League suspected the Congress’s acceptance to be insincere… Calling for Direct Action Day, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the leader of the All India Muslim League, said that he wanted ‘either a divided India or a destroyed India’“
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Action_Day
Not everything bad that happens in the world is because of the machinations of the evil Brits, or Americans for that matter.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 29 2023 11:02 utc | 271

On the topic of India, it’s illuminating to read the British debates of the 1930s. One politician wrote that without British influence, India would have remained at the level of China!
I’m sure Indians today would be happy to be at the level of China. Meanwhile the UK is heading more in the direction of India.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 29 2023 11:08 utc | 273

Paul Greenwood | May 29 2023 10:35 utc | 264
AQ Khan and the Pakistani bomb – a Greenpeace publication, but I imagine most of the factual stuff is correct.
https://www.laka.org/info/publicaties/Khan/Khan.pdf

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 29 2023 11:18 utc | 275

The 1947 partition was an act of the British. With consensus of ALL parties. India intervened militarily to consume some of the smaller states opting for independence. India’s fanatics of today are no friends of Russia. The government may be.
‘Pakistan had absolutely no business being separate from it’.. Learn a bit about the region and the true culture (other than about curry). Then only will your brain be able to digest the difference in the culture, literature and lives of the majority Indians and the largest minority (Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh).
An old saying: look before you leap, or before you put your foot in your mouth.
Posted by: Sal | May 29 2023 10:53 utc | 270

There is the 1947 situation, and then there is the 1847 situation. A lot happened in between.
But read what I said a bit more carefully — that if India was to be independent, Pakistan and Bangladesh had no business being separate.
First, as it is, the partition didn’t really solve the Muslim problem at all, there are still hundreds of millions of Muslims in India.
Second, you correctly point out that there are differences between the Muslims and the Hindus. But the India that was left after the partition is in no way homogeneous. Quite the opposite. Why is it “natural” to split off Pakistan, but southern India or the northeastern states have to be part of the current entity? Pakistanis might be Muslim, but they are Indo-European, as is most of northern India. But in southern India they are Dravidian, i.e. completely different, and in the northeast you have various Tibeto-Burman and Austro-Asian ethnicities, also completely different. On occasions religiously too — e.g. Nagaland is both Naga (i.e. Tibeto-Burman, East Asian-looking people) and almost entirely Christian; what business does it have being part of India, and if it is to be part of India, why split off Pakistan?
In fact, India has never been unified politically in the current borders. It has come close on two occasions — the Maurya Empire circa 250 BC and then the Mughals circa 1700 AD, but both of those didn’t include the southern tip. They both contained Pakistan and Bangladesh though.
Again, circa 1947 the situation might have been such that partition looked like the right decision, but that was the result of a very long and persistent application of the usual British divide-and-rule tactics. It has hurt the subcontinent massively ever since.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 29 2023 11:20 utc | 277

The counterattack is delayed due to the massive missile and UAV strikes of the Russians. Many rear depots with ammunition have been lost, and a shortage of ammunition for air defense has also ripened.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine also have internal problems due to the corruption of the Ministry of Defense, and there is a shortage of spare parts for military equipment.
Everyone is sure that Ze wanted to time the offensive to coincide with the July NATO summit, but time is running out.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18027

Posted by: Down South | May 29 2023 11:32 utc | 279

Our source said that the Office of the President set the task of the SBU to completely stop the video of arrivals and air defense, in addition to official sources, in this way they want to create the illusion of 100% efficiency on Bankovaya.
In the information war, the main thing is not to allow the enemy to receive feedback on the effectiveness of missile strikes, if there is no visual confirmation, then everything else is statistics. An initiative with criminal liability for the publication of the video will be introduced to the Rada.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18028

Posted by: Down South | May 29 2023 11:34 utc | 281

While the Brits (Simon Tisdall) seem to be okay with Ukraine going full terrorist, the Germans seem to be distancing from the Ukies, which should be no surprise if their recent reporting of the Ukies being behind the NS2 explosion is true. The problem here is that states like Ukraine and Britain which support terrorism are state sponsors of terrorism.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 29 2023 11:36 utc | 283

Yes, the ICTY was a wonderful instrument for regime-change operations in the Balkans. That is the truth. It is attacked. Truth always is.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 29 2023 11:37 utc | 285

Not everything bad that happens in the world is because of the machinations of the evil Brits, or Americans for that matter.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 29 2023 11:02 utc | 273

The first partition was that of Bengal in 1905. That really got the ball rolling.
And it is not at all true that the British were opposed to the 1947 partition.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 29 2023 11:41 utc | 287

“European people’s bonds could support Ukraine’s reconstruction”: A way to make more money on Ukraine – funds “for Ukraine’s reconstruction” will be collected from ordinary Europeans.
“Ukraine needs funds now. Fortunately, history has ingenious ways in which the caring public can be enlisted to support a just cause. Now is the time for European people’s bonds. The vast majority of Europeans support financial assistance to Ukraine, and as Kiev’s needs grow, the EU and a number of European countries should directly use the goodwill of their populations towards Ukraine.
Europe needs to issue European people’s bonds for Ukraine. The US is providing the most military support, and the bulk of the future costs of rebuilding Ukraine should fall on the EU and member states.”

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/48320

Posted by: Down South | May 29 2023 11:44 utc | 289

I’m sure Indians today would be happy to be at the level of China.
By your logic they would have been happy to have been conquered by Japan – much as China was and the Philippines………after all…….Japan was offering so much in 1937…..
Did you hear China just found an underground chamber where Unit 731 did their experiments ………..
Great days…..if only India had not had the British they could share the joys of Unit 731 with China which is…..ever so grateful !

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 29 2023 11:50 utc | 291

@shadowbanned | May 29 2023 10:34 #263
Sorry, don’t understand who Pavel Sudoplatov is. I always celebrated the memory of the Spanish communist, Ramón Mercader, who is credited with taking out the nazi collaborator, otherwise known as Trotsky.

Posted by: zeke2u | May 29 2023 11:52 utc | 293

Sorry, don’t understand who Pavel Sudoplatov is. I always celebrated the memory of the Spanish communist, Ramón Mercader, who is credited with taking out the nazi collaborator, otherwise known as Trotsky.
Posted by: zeke2u | May 29 2023 11:52 utc | 295

Sudoplatov was the guy in the NKVD who organized the operation.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 29 2023 11:54 utc | 295

Someone suggested that the recent video of Zaluzhny was a deep fake. The longer this drags on, the more plausible such weird explanations beging to sound.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 29 2023 11:56 utc | 297

Hasn’t he?
Posted by: Jonathan W | May 29 2023 11:33 utc | 282
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Once the debt-ceiling is postponed until 2025 the Biden Administration will spend freely on stuffing Ukraine.

Posted by: too scents | May 29 2023 12:07 utc | 299