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May 19, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-120
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E.U Commissioner issues very strong warning to Bosnia Serbia on European Union membership.
“Our Allies don’t go to Russia”
Video https://twitter.com/AbrahamStein8/status/1659606915859595287?s=20
Posted by: Dave Oneil | May 19 2023 17:08 utc | 1
Daily SitRep Collection part one of two today is up:
https://askeptic.substack.com/p/battlefield-update-2023-05-19-1
The Bakhmut line of defense is practically destroyed, all the advancing enemy forces act synchronously. Maliar and LOMS of the Office of the President emphasize that the splash of public rhetoric into the Russian information space is nothing more than a way to divert the attention of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and British intelligence considers this move an element of information warfare.
You need to understand that Wagner has heavy equipment, self-propelled artillery and aircraft, which they constantly receive on an unlimited scale for their operations, which means that you should not count on stopping their operations after the fall of Bakhmut.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/17867
Posted by: Down South | May 19 2023 17:24 utc | 3
ECFR is admitting the vassalisation of the EU.
“The art of vassalisation
…
Conceptually, European allies have a role in this geo-economic struggle with China, but it is not, as during the cold war, to become rich and contribute to the military defence of the central front. To the contrary, their key role from a US perspective is to support US strategic industrial policy and to help ensure American technological dominance vis-à-vis China. They can do so by acquiescing to US industrial policy and by circumscribing their economic relations with China according to American concepts of strategic technologies.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20230404180234/https://ecfr.eu/publication/the-art-of-vassalisation-how-russias-war-on-ukraine-has-transformed-transatlantic-relations/
summary:
https://archive.is/PsK71#selection-5973.0-5993.302
Posted by: p3t3r | May 19 2023 17:44 utc | 4
I have a question: Today read a note online that James Bamford has published, in THe Nation, that a Ukraine-Polish operation demolished the Nordstream pipeline… not the operation reported by Sy Hersh. The note published on Counter Punch states that the Bamford report is much more detailed and convincing than the Hersh report.
Anyone have any ideas on this subject? I had been convinced that the Hersh report was correct.
Posted by: medo | May 19 2023 17:46 utc | 5
MSM still reporting a different situation in Bakhmut. (Google search with last 24 hours as filter.)
1. Significant gains on the flanks by Ukes.
2. [No reporting that Bakhmut is falling by Sunday.]
Not sure how much the difference of MSM versus alt view (here, Weeb Union, Geroman, etc.) is the MSM bias versus the bias here. I do know I’ve seen both in the past. Wish P would hurry up and actually clear the town (yes, including the Mig area) so that the MSM has to report it. Realistically, he does not have full control yet. Town is still divided.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 19 2023 17:47 utc | 6
So the pentagon, that bastion of fiscal accountability that it is, found that they can give ukraine 3 billion more because they overvalued what they sent.
Cmon that’s some funny shit, because I’m pretty sure they’ve been way undervaluing it so far. A few hundred million sure got a lot of humvees and ammo and whatnot. And I’d bet that the pentagon wasn’t paying that amount to the weapon manufacturers.
In the meantime prigozhin is still complaining about the flanks, at least according to western narratives. Ukrainian advances haven’t been too serious yet, but the pressure is definitely on, so if russia forgets to defend itself it will find itself being routed. They better up the vodka rations keep their dicks up.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 19 2023 17:51 utc | 7
@6 follow the money
The destroyed pipeline means Europe imports expensive lng from the US. The US gets the money and russias energy weapon over Europe.
It was a goal well before ukraine so it’s obvious it’s a us operation although it’s likely they got some European patsys to do the deed. Like the Nordics and the UK. Poland and Spain also benefited a lot as well.
All else is distraction. Only money and power needs to be watched.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 19 2023 17:57 utc | 8
[Bamford versus Hersh]
Posted by: medo | May 19 2023 17:46 utc | 6
I read Bamford’s piece and have followed the situation a lot in the press/blogs/etc.
1. In general, I have a lot more respect for Bamford’s work than Hersh’s. Bamford is a careful, diligent researcher. Amazing book on the NSA (back when almost nobody had heard of it).
2. Bamford does not claim secret sources. His work is based on analyzing released information. “I’m a researcher, not a reporter. Don’t have Deep Throat in a parking lot.”
3. However, Bamford’ piece essentially just throws out another possibility. Is mostly based on capabilities (already known) as well as the yacht story. So bottom line is just another X could have done it.
4. Net, net, it makes me slightly colder on Hersh. But just a couple notches. Not a radical shift. Bamford doesn’t have a smoking gun either.
5. And while I enjoyed the Hersh story, he can be a little wild and a little sloppy.
6. I still don’t know who did it. It’s a guessing game. With bests based on intuitive Bayesian probabilities.
7. I would not be surprised to learn the Bamford is right. However, he leaves it clear that the US likely knows what happened (from intel, from SOSUS). This sort of matches how coy they have acted. Congressmen are not asking the right questions. I saw something dramatic where one of them asked someone (maybe Blinken) “this is a formal setting, did the US or its agent blow up Nordstream” and it was denied. But the congressman didn’t follow up with, do you know who did? HAve SOSUS intel, etc.
8. Realistically, the situation cries out for a UN investigation. The US is not sharing info and neither are the Baltic states.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 19 2023 17:58 utc | 9
The only question that needs to be asked about the NS2 bombing is:
Cui bono?
Posted by: GT Stroller | May 19 2023 18:05 utc | 10
Posted by: medo | May 19 2023 17:46 utc | 5
I think the Hersh Report is correct about the identity of the culprits, but it was very sloppy and/or incorrect about the technical details. I wrote a long post about this months ago in which I slammed the pig-fuckingly stupid idea that there were “divers” involved in the operation, and I made sure to mention Mercouris’ comically strange mispronunciation, “doivers.”
I can just hear him now: “Seymour Hersh’s awwwwticle explains the special training of the navy doivers.”
(The lovable Mercouris believes every story coming down the pike. He went on and on about Russia’s “upcoming winter offensive” for months, even up through the end of March when winter was meteorologically over with. Then it was the navy doivers. Now it’s “the breaking of the defensive lines in Bakhmut.”)
I think that Hersh was either never told the real details, or he deliberately obscured them so that his sources wouldn’t be compromised, but I’m positive the operation was not conducted in the manner he described, even though I do believe the USA did it.
Posted by: Intelligent Dasein | May 19 2023 18:08 utc | 11
Zelinsky left the Ukraine the May 5 together with his wife Zelinskaya. He went to the Nederlands, she to London for the coronation.
The next day- there was a Drone attack on the Kremlin.
The 7th or 8th Zalnutzy and Surky disappeared from public life. Neither hs been seen after that.
Zel has been traveling from country to country- Rome, Germany but was not invited to Iceland, and not going to Japan even if he was said to go there this morning, 0540 norwegian time https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/zelenskyj-reiser-til-japan-1.16414278
Two hours later he was not invited but was heading to the Arab League.
https://www.rt.com/news/576558-zelensky-assad-arab-league/
Zelinskaya was last seen in the USA yesterday where she in an interview together with Hillary Clinton laimed that ukrainian babooshka shoots down drone with a can of tomatoes, only Ukrainian women can do this.
https://obektivno.bg/zelenska-ukrainka-svali-dron-s-konserva-ot-domati-samo-ukrainskite-zheni-mogat-tova/
Zelensky’s wife, Olena Zelenskaya, said Ukrainian women may be the only ones in the world who can shoot down a drone with a can of tomatoes. The First Lady of Ukraine gave an interview to the American television MSNBC together with former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
“One of the women saw a drone from the balcony and took it down with a jar of tomatoes. Shooting down a drone with a can of tomatoes is something that perhaps only Ukrainian women can do. And we have a lot of stories like that,” Zelenska said, as the two American journalists and Hillary Clinton laughed approvingly at the story.
The Zelensky’s has not been in Ukraine for 14 days!!!!!
There is one other person that looks rather interesting: VADIM PRISTAIKO
This man has worked in the Ukranian diplomacy for 20 years, under the last 5 presidents!!!- in Canada, in the Nato, in the state-department and is resently been appointed as Ambassador to the UK. He is saying something totally different than all the rest in the Ukrainian top management:
https://www.rt.com/russia/576550-terrible-price-ukraine-counteroffensive/
Ukraine could suffer heavy losses during its much-anticipated counteroffensive against Russia, Vadim Pristaiko, Kiev’s ambassador to the UK, warned on Thursday.
In an interview with British broadcaster ITV, the diplomat said: “I know that it can be a very terrible summer and the price is terrible.”
Pristaiko also said Kiev’s Western backers have piled “too much pressure” on Kiev and have built up “too much expectations” about the spring campaign.
When asked to comment on why Ukraine maintains its position on not revealing its losses in the conflict, Pristaiko replied: “internally, we understand how many of us are already killed and lost.”
The Ukrainian ambassador also acknowledged that while US President Joe Biden and his administration have emerged as one of Kiev’s most staunch supporters, his successor might prove to be less willing to help the country.
“One of the weaknesses of democracy is the cyclical nature, and we have the same… we have to take into account this cycle in politics,” he said.
“We understand that the time might come that we won’t enjoy such great support, that is why we have to put all the pressure right now”, Pristaiko said. “That is why we are asking our friends, can you bring everything to the table? Allow us to have a decisive push this time.”
IF Zalutzhy and Syrky is out and the traveling salesman Zelinsky is not going back to Ukraine- is Vadim Pristaiko the new name we will have to learn?
Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 19 2023 18:08 utc | 12
I will just throw in a generalized comment for debate for people who think Russia is losing. This is why small shifts in the front, in front and on the flanks of Bakhmut ultimately won’t matter. RUAF will soon roll up any extended flanks that are foolish enough to not withdraw to the west, after the final blocs of Bakhmut have been taken.
Russia had a dedicated anti-artillery campaign that lasted several months, more and more powerful research (e.g. zoopark) where the focus was on neutralizing Ukraine’s artillery from the beginning of the year on an industrial scale, and may still be. Ukraine didn’t have it, at least not nearly on the same scale.
Russia has very effective strike drones that neutralize Ukraine’s artillery, radars and anti-aircraft systems. Ukraine has nowhere near the same scale.
Russia has a tested and functional air defense system and EW that neutralizes most of Ukraine’s drones, Himars missiles and HARM missiles and most recently Shadow Storm missiles. Ukraine does not have. Now they really need those S-300 and BUk systems that work, unlike the Patriots.
Russia has large quantities of effective flying bombs, enough to drop them on every part of the front every day. Ukraine has nothing like that, and not many carriers. One Su-24 over there, another over there and a third over there. They have a high risk of being shot down every time they try to lob a cruise bomb, HARM or Shadow storm missile because of the constant AWACS/CAP /air defense (AWACS can also guide surface-to-air missiles).
All of the above-mentioned factors also have (had) a negative effect on the defense in Bakhmut.
Now when it comes to Bakhmut itself.
Ukrainian commanders said (general Krivonos, among others) that Bakhmut should have been abandoned at the beginning of the year, because the city had not been prepared for defense. They were actually abandoning it, until Zelensky, in order to boost his own career, decided to create a kind of defense symbol out of it, or something. Which led to the fact that many hundreds (even 500, according to some reports) of guys have been thrown into this semi-encircled and unsupported area of ruins every day, bombarded from three different sides. This also had its own effect on the fact that Ukraine was not able to gather enough 1st-wave attackers for, for example, the attack on the Zaporozhye region.
Most of the Ukrainian strikes seem to hit civilian targets in Donbass. This also means that they waste resources on things that do not contribute to winning, mainly terrorism.
Ukraine is 100% caught in the NATO life support, even this idiot Borrell said that they will disappear in a few days if NATO stops supporting, which shows how edge of the knife the whole thing is riding.
For an understandable reason, of course, when there is a massive recruitment, it is possible to maintain and supplement the lines while there’s possibility to get new conscripts. Ukraine still gets a lot of conscripts, lot more than Russia.
Then another issue is of course that Russia has pretty good intelligence on where all the weapons and ammunition delivered by NATO are temporarily stored, usually along the train routes and on the way from Poland. There have been very large hits in recent weeks, which also partly affects the ability to stockpile weapons and ammunition for an attack and attacks that can be sustained for more than a day or two. That whole logistics chain is a massive burden and very disadvantageous for NATO across the Dnieper River. All temporary warehouses and repair shops are constantly exposed to attacks. Everything has to be transported back to Poland to be repaired.
Everything here is actually stacked against NATO. They have more reconnaissance satellites, AWACS, more ability to find formations, etc. Will it ultimately save the war?
Probably not. They can be defended by those who require less different supplies, and for obvious reasons, urban areas are usually chosen as locations, which are to be defended to the last.
Posted by: unimperator | May 19 2023 18:12 utc | 13
Is MSM turning?
https://harpers.org/archive/2023/06/why-are-we-in-ukraine/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Posted by: Newbie | May 19 2023 18:13 utc | 14
#6 medo I immediately went to CPunch and looked for Bamfords byline. Nothing. Search, hmm, no , no, wait it seems it is buried in J. St Clairs weekly hodgepodge of snips and clips called Roaming Charges.
On returning (sadly) to usOfA from Canada to take care of parents, I started to
send money to NukeWatch, various Catholic Workers, AFSC, rejoined a Socialist party and some to CPunch. I was going to send a note, no money, you did not post any articles about May 2 in Odessa or May 9 and the arson assassination of clerical and police in Mariupol via C-14 and Adair (2014). I will amend it to and add an eff you on Bamford. I will still peruse to see Ramzy B. several friends I used to get arrested with for antinuclear (few or none are Russophobes, and assorted others, but the bloom is off of that. So much for the legacy of Stephen F. Cohen and his wife at the Nation (his book was $1.99 when I bought it)
Side note. As I may have mentioned, two mentally challenged people I loved and cared for were part of the cavalcade of 10’s of thousands being shunted here and there as they get tossed into different less regulated venues died less than 24 hours of transition. I extrapolate. I know of three individuals who have had to move 3 times in less than 6 months. I extrapolate. Very dark days in the usOfA.
Posted by: paxmark1 | May 19 2023 18:15 utc | 15
@ Paul from Norway | May 19 2023 18:08 utc | 12
Interesting! 🙂
Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 18:16 utc | 16
medo@5
It should not need saying-it probably doesn’t- but there are no autonomous Polish-Ukrainian operations which are not authorised by NATO and, in the final analysis, Europe’s mafia Godfather, in Washington.
If Bamford hasn’t sussed that yet he is unreliable.
Posted by: bevin | May 19 2023 18:18 utc | 17
@unimperator | May 19 2023 18:12 utc | 13
Very interesting, indeed!
Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 18:21 utc | 18
” You need to understand that Wagner has heavy equipment, self-propelled artillery and aircraft, which they constantly receive on an unlimited scale for their operations, which means that you should not count on stopping their operations after the fall of Bakhmut.
Posted by: Down South | May 19 2023 17:24 utc | 3 ”
Russia stopped Wagner’s operation in Syria just fine. I’m very sure it could do it again.
– Special Forces Soldiers Reveal First Details of Battle With Russian Mercenaries in Syria –
” The Wagner mercenaries had a surface-to-air system that made it impossible for American aircraft to press the attack. Only after officials in Washington talked to their Russian counterparts did the surface-to-air system get shut down, allowing American aircraft to return and attack. ”
https://thewarhorse.org/special-forces-soldiers-reveal-first-details-of-battle-with-russian-mercenaries-in-syria/
Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | May 19 2023 18:26 utc | 19
Posted by: Anonymous | May 19 2023 17:47 utc | 6
I’m going to presume your exasperation or perhaps anxiety over the tension between MSM “reporting “ and the unfiltered type of reporting we see from Twitter, telegram, etc is genuine.
Truth be told, it bothers me a bit as well.
But the conclusion I have come to is that there simply isn’t a free press anymore inside the West. It is hard to accept, but the truth will set you free.
In fact, I would not even describe Reuters, CNN, or any Corp owned media company as the press. They are more like stenographers or transcriptionists for governmental agencies. Anyone with a spark of journalistic integrity has been driven out to the freelance economy:
Carlson, Taibbi, Greenwald, just to name a few.
What remains are mindless drones who do not have to report anything. When Prighozhin lights up a cigar and the last dead-ended in Artemosvk eats a grenade in his spider hole , they’ll simply change the subject. They literally work for the pro-Nazi regime and their main supporters in the UK and the US. Refusing to admit battlefield defeats is how that sort of regime rolls.
So, don’t expect a blaring headline in the telegraph on Sunday that those evil Russkies prevailed. The more I think about it, this next phase of the war may involve Nazi style roundups of any reporters of bad news for team Azov. It will likely begin in the UK, where press freedom is already the weakest. I worry for Mercouris. He may well end up like Lira.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 19 2023 18:28 utc | 20
@ ghost #20
Have you seen what I posted in 14?
A respectable old monthly magazine wit a full, non consensus , analysis of the SMO
https://harpers.org/archive/2023/06/why-are-we-in-ukraine/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Posted by: Newbie | May 19 2023 18:36 utc | 21
@Paul from Norway | May 19 2023 18:08 utc | 12
Hei!
Good questions! In fact, the Zelensky tour started earlier, May 3 when he went to Finland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2023_visits_by_Volodymyr_Zelenskyy_to_Europe
So it is now 16 days since he was in Ukraine. Something has to happen.
And the obligatory question remains: Where is Zaluzhnyi?
Posted by: Norwegian | May 19 2023 18:39 utc | 22
Remember when the uk shipped those dirty weapon to ukraine?
https://tass.com/world/1620005
Well accidents happen and I wonder when Russia blew them up they counted on the wind to help? Sneaky Russkies;-)
Posted by: jo6pac | May 19 2023 18:42 utc | 23
It will likely begin in the UK, where press freedom is already the weakest. I worry for Mercouris. He may well end up like Lira.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 19 2023 18:28 utc | 20
Germany is by far the winner now. Then is Poland, Czech and Baltics. As long as Mercouris doesn’t travel to Germany or Poland he should be safe, no jail or blocked accounts. For the moment.
Posted by: rk | May 19 2023 18:48 utc | 24
AFTER BAKHMUT (ARTEMOVSK):
A FREEZE? The news has been floating the idea that Biden is looking for a freeze in Ukraine. The idea is that fighting would freeze with a buffer zone between the two forces, that is Russia and Ukraine.
Both sides would benefit from a freeze. However, with better logistics, the Russian advantage from a freeze would be less than what the West could gain.
The West wants a freeze for now because it needs to restore stocks of ammo and other military supplies. The West knows it is losing the logistics war in Ukraine and needs more time to replenish what has been lost on the Ukrainain battle fronts which now can be anywhere the Army Forces of Ukraine (AFU) stores or moves its weapons and ammo within Ukraine. The AFU also desperately needs time to train and retrain its relatively new forced conscripted army.
Russia may appear to go along with such a freeze. However, Russia knows that as soon as the West gains more strength for the battle field that it will again go to a hot war with Russia.
FUTURE NEGOTIATIONS:
Future negotiations towards a freeze or other may look promising. Yet, the West is unlikely to move forward with any real guarantees that Russia would need to remove the Western threat on its borders.
With little or no trust of the West, I doubt that Russia would negotiate with any sincerity. With the USA needing to take down Russia to preserve its hegemony, I doubt that the West would negotiate with any sincerity.
I can see such negotiations taking place. Such may cause a lot of hope for the multitude of humanist that think mankind will achieve some kind of utopia that it never has been able to achieve. Yet, all moves towards some kind of peace in Ukraine will come to nought.
THE RUSSIAN ALTERNATIVE: Russia is much more likely to launch against the USA and key NATO targets than it is to sign any agreement with the West. I can see a climax towards signing such a deal occurring where Russia launches just before the highly anticipated signing date.
Meanwhile back to Bakhmut (Artemovsk) and beyond.
Posted by: young | May 19 2023 18:49 utc | 25
@ Ghost of Zanon, §20:
You´re right about the UK. “Free Press” is dead, killed by the 77th brigade and the NeoCon banksters who really control the UK. Parliament certainly doesn´t and has become a UniParty like the USA. The last holdout was the Daily Telegraph which, although conservative, prided itself on bringing the news, unpalatable or not. They did sterling work during the corona saga. giving platforms to the likes of the excellent Lord Sumption. But with the Ukraine war they have completely folded, tolerating only swivel-eyed loons such as Hamish de Bretton-Gprdon, w mouthpiece worthy of Goebbels who epitomizes the death of the free press in England.
As a consequence, British policy has gone from being unrealistic to frankly psychotic.
Posted by: John Marks | May 19 2023 18:50 utc | 26
Newbie @ 21
I recomend this link.
Not much we don’t know already but no worse for that.
Indeed very refreshing to read a long and detailed narrative of what we know to be true.
And from Harper’s wow.
That’s a toffs coffee table periodical no less !
The Arastos getting cold feet ?
They’v got most to lose.
So thanks Newbie big respect for that.
Welcome to the party.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 19 2023 18:50 utc | 27
Newbie: Harper’s? That’s nice, but I stopped reading that “respectable old monthly magazine” when they appointed some wannabe-GKChesterton its editor, and then ran a hit piece on Jeremy Corbyn.
Posted by: malenkov | May 19 2023 18:51 utc | 28
Posted by: Newbie | May 19 2023 18:36 utc | 21
Thanks for that link. Good reading. Yes, there are still a few pockets of independent, truth-based journalism left in the West. They tend to be small, supported 100% by donations, and don’t take government grants. The Intercept comes to mind, as well as Naked Capitalism.
@rk – yes, how could I forget about Germany? They’ll return to their Nazi roots the fastest. Muscle-memory.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 19 2023 18:52 utc | 29
So F-16s on the way! Well russians really did fuck this up. Can you imagine? What a complete humiliation of russian power. One year of this limpdick army getting burned everywhere and now this. Sorry to all that are angry and hurt over this!
Posted by: Ing. Smrkovsky | May 19 2023 18:53 utc | 30
It looks like the US had brought in a substitute for the blown up patriot AA system. KP.ru says that the one that was blown up was AN/MPQ 53 (code name), or whatever left of that had been taken to Ramstein, and exchanged that with AN/MPQ 65. So, the new patriot AA system would be ready to work in Kiev. So, we’d be hearing of another Kinzhal meeting again in a few days, maybe this weekend. Anyway, it appears that Raytheon stock had gone down by 5%…
Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 18:54 utc | 31
What really happened in Kiev!
I am reposting this comment (number 609) from Tuesday’s post Ukraine – Air Defense Lessons (Updated). I found this jewel in the comments section of Simplicius’ article Anatomy of MIM-104 Patriot Destruction + Primer on Kinzhal Hypersonic Missile. I believe you will all enjoy this. 😆🤣
American Patriots nailed Putin’s hypersonic Kinzhal missile. The world has changed – The Telegraph, May 17, 2023
There’s much excitement around the world following the events of Monday night, in which Ukrainian air defences armed with US-made weapons reportedly neutralised a heavy Russian missile attack against Kyiv.
In particular the attack apparently included six KH-47M2 Kinzhal (“Dagger”) air-launched missiles, which are often described as “hypersonic”, frequently with the added assertion that there is no defence against such weapons. All six were reportedly stopped by US-made Patriot air defence interceptors, though a Patriot installation was apparently damaged – perhaps by debris from a downed Russian weapon.
Another Kinzhal was also shot down by a Patriot earlier this month. Monday’s interceptions would seem to have confirmed that this was not simply a lucky shot, and the Patriot does indeed offer a strong defence against the Kinzhal and similar weapons.
So, is the world different today? Can any nation in possession of Patriots or similar interceptors rest easy, unworried by the thought of hypersonic weapons – perhaps even, hypersonic nuclear weapons – in enemy hands?
The original in The Telegraph is behind a paywall, but the above links to a free version on Yahoo! News. The Telegraph is a very reliable source, so I am sure the article will be used as a source on the Wikipedia articles on both the Kinzhal and the Patriot.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 19 2023 18:55 utc | 32
It seems that Mariupol was attacked tonight, “old airport” area is burning the telegrams say
Posted by: rk | May 19 2023 18:57 utc | 33
Very brief evening sitrep by Prigozhin with no rants, bloody battles, the opponent is sending more reserves, 0,6 SqKm. left to be liberated.
https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3381
At the rate of today’s catch there are two days left for the full liberation of Bakhmut.
Posted by: Paco | May 19 2023 19:02 utc | 34
Is Germany ready for Russian tanks again in Berlin.
The west has pushed the last red line watch for a strike on something in the west soon like Norway gas field. See how EU handles winter with no Gas from anyone soon!
Posted by: Peace | May 19 2023 19:03 utc | 35
Malekov @ 26
All true what you say.
But that’s the very fact that makes it more potent.
That this article should appear on that platform.
My initial thoughts….
Ahhh we gota look after our stocks an shares dont ya know.
Time to go off shore.
The ship is sinking.
Just like in Ukraine those that could afford to fled west.
Rats allways leave a ship they know to be sinking.
Again good find.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 19 2023 19:03 utc | 36
@Posted by: p3t3r | May 19 2023 17:44 utc | 4
This implies that the EU was not already vassalized, which is false. What has changed is not the political status of Europe vis a vis the USA, but America’s economic strategy in the face of western technological and industrial inferiority.
Posted by: FVK | May 19 2023 19:05 utc | 37
Weird claim:
🇺🇦🏴☠️🇨🇾 Zaluzhny, it seems, was discovered in Cyprus (information stuffing from Ukraine). I cannot vouch for the 100% accuracy of this information, but such photos have appeared on the Internet.
Although, it would be very strange at a time when the country is at war.
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/65131
It looks more and more likely that he has joined with Bandera.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 19 2023 19:08 utc | 38
@ young | May 19 2023 18:49 utc | 25
Oh, a freeze. Let’s call it Minsk III (cue evil laughter)
Posted by: Katharina | May 19 2023 19:12 utc | 39
Victoria “Fuck the EU” Nuland is ecstatic: “The destruction of depleted uranium shells in #Ukraine produced a radioactive cloud which has blown toward #WesternEurope, #Patrushev claimed.
https://jamesburrillangell.substack.com/p/strange-diplomacy-victoria-fck-the
Posted by: Norwegian | May 19 2023 19:08 utc | 38
Ukraine MOD twitter account also showed a picture of Zaluzhny maybe a week ago, supposedly attending some kind of wedding supposedly to proove that he’s alive. Someone claimed that it was from last year. Since a week ago, there has been nothing mentioned on twatter about Zaluzhny.
Until there’s any evidence proving otherwise, it might be prudent to assume that, perhaps the failure around Bakhmut is more fatal for the entire war effort than it seems. The whole country is just drifting with broken sails and rudderless in the ocean. Some material and men still keep flowing on autopilot, small local commanders running the show.
Posted by: unimperator | May 19 2023 19:18 utc | 41
@Posted by: medo | May 19 2023 17:46 utc | 5
It attempts to obfuscate the USA’s role in the attack, therefore it is disinformation. It is that simple. The idea that Poland and the Ukraine are conducting independent operations of industrial sabotage without the guidance and approval of the USA is absurd, and anyone who understands anything will see that any such claim is absurd. Is Bamford simply ignorant? No, he is not. Therefore, this must be taken as deliberate disinformation.
Posted by: FVK | May 19 2023 19:19 utc | 42
Petri Krohn | May 19 2023 18:55 utc | 32
Please stop linking to simplicius76 as he’s nothing but a little propagandist trying to “explain” to his braindead money donors that hypersonics absolutely can’t exist because muricans can’t make them. He pulls some ideas from his butt that Russian hypersonics aren’t really hypersonics, which is an impossible thing.
The atmosphere is way too thick and any object going such a speed would quickly heat up to astronomical levels and then vaporize
And now for pièce de résistance: he has found a youtube video and says “the missile appears in only one frame. Someone much better at advanced mathematics than me can likely calculate that into some semblance of a speed.”
The propagandist tries to compute speed using a single frame from a yt video to show Putin is hiding behind a technicality. “Simplicius” turned to be the perfect nickname.
Posted by: rk | May 19 2023 19:21 utc | 43
James Bamford has published, in THe Nation, that a Ukraine-Polish operation demolished the Nordstream pipeline… not the operation reported by Sy Hersh
medo | May 19 2023 17:46 utc | 5
So let me understand this, Poland and Ukraine blowup German and Russian owned gas pipelines worth between $20-30 billion. Now Poland has requested $1.5 trillion in reparations from Germany for WW2 and Ukraine wants at least $500 billion from Russia for reparations from the SMO.
Could the above, best be classified as a non sequitur or an oxymoron?
Or perhaps, something else?
Posted by: Jerr | May 19 2023 19:26 utc | 44
Doim @ 40
And to be sure ! Why wouldn’t she be ecstatic.
The bottoms just about to drop out of the agricultural produce market from Europe. Will they tell what areas are contaminated ? I doubt it.
Will it boost profitability for US agriculture ? indupatably.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 19 2023 19:28 utc | 45
@ rk, #43
What’s you point exactly, technically speaking?
Please share your understanding of “hypersonic”, yes?
Posted by: daniel_s | May 19 2023 19:31 utc | 46
When it comes to genius you got to hand it to Vladimir Putin only the other week he reported on Russias record breaking grain harvest last year.
If Europe gets short of uncontaminated produce/grain a good deal might be arraigned with Russia at the right price, in Rubles oh and dont forget to drop the sanctions.
Falls off chair in laughter.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 19 2023 19:40 utc | 47
Posted by: Anonymous | May 19 2023 17:58 utc | 9
Absurd. Nobody has the resources and training to do this but the Americans or Brits with US backing.
For GOD’S SAKE! Biden* said he was going to destroy the NS if Russia entered Ukraine’s territory.
*The Globalist elements running the American/Euro puppetry.
Posted by: Drake Schroeder | May 19 2023 19:41 utc | 48
Re Zaluzhny
Zaluzhny may be out of sight for numerous reasons. What if he is somewhere with Ukraine’s mentors and sponsors preparing the future phases of the war to destroy Russia at any cost. I fail to see why that is SUCH a big deal, however curious it may be. We’ll find out soon enough.
Zelensky IS going to G7. His movements are not always made public, just like with other heads of state.
Posted by: JB | May 19 2023 19:43 utc | 49
What’s you point exactly, technically speaking?
Posted by: daniel_s | May 19 2023 19:31 utc | 46
The point is simplicius website is an asset, growing their viewer base with relatively reasonable ideas for a while, then someone has anger management issues and calls everyone a liar, hypersonics can’t exist, the proof being that muricans don’t have them. Russia, India, China and even NK are all liars. To compensate for all ideas being out of a butt, the text is extremely long but completely empty of content.
Posted by: rk | May 19 2023 19:44 utc | 50
Posted by: rk | May 19 2023 19:21 utc | 43
Hey, it’s the same Americans who believe that an object “can’t escape the earth’s gravity unless it reaches a velocity of 11.186 km/s”. Meaning that something travelling away at 11.0 km/s will forever just stay next to the earth and never leave.
America also produced Neil deGrasse-fed Tyson with his “without the moon, you’d wake up next morning with your arm ten light years away” reality-inverting stories.
I would enjoy seeing america and israel stop a few kinzhals with their noses. But I’d enjoy even more seeing them just tear themselves into bloody pulp without anyone else having to take part.
Posted by: Mike | May 19 2023 19:47 utc | 51
Ukraine MOD twitter account also showed a picture of Zaluzhny maybe a week ago, supposedly attending some kind of wedding
Zaluzhny, it seems, was discovered in Cyprus
The Ukrainian version of “Where’s Waldo”?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 19 2023 19:52 utc | 52
The deranged and angry little troll creeps are certainly going full retard today….
Lol!
Posted by: Robert Hope | May 19 2023 19:54 utc | 53
I suppose, Zaluzhny and Syrski are at a meeting with Bandera…they have been sent to Bandera…
Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 19:56 utc | 54
@Neofeudalfuture | May 19 2023 17:51 utc | 7
So the pentagon, that bastion of fiscal accountability that it is, found that they can give ukraine 3 billion more because they overvalued what they sent.
The $1 billion Patriot battery turned out to be worthless, so now they can give Ukraine 4 billion more in weapons.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 19 2023 19:56 utc | 55
Attached is a link to an article which describes how the USA brought “freedom and democracy” to North Korea.
America’s allies need to understand the true nature of the USA.
https://russia-insider.com/en/history/us-atrocities-korean-war-chem-and-bio-weapons-mass-civilian-bombing-and-execution/ri23685.
Mass executions, bacterial and chemical warfare, truly evil. Real war crimes; ignored by the UN.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | May 19 2023 19:57 utc | 56
Drake Schroeder @ 48
For GOD’S SAKE! Biden* said he was going to destroy the NS if Russia entered Ukraine’s territory.
Thank you. But you beam that up to Telstar and broadcast it over the globe 24/7, day after day, and people would still argue over who actually did it. Meh, nothing brings into stark relief the quirks of human nature like a good build up to world war.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 19 2023 19:58 utc | 57
@rk, #50
Not much technical content in your statement.
Are you sure that you read the part about the flight pattern of Kinshal and similar devices? And why the impact velocity may be “only” about 2-3 times the speed of sound? Also, the notion of “hypersonic” as such is not clear-cut. AFAIK, it means speeds greater then ca 5 times the local speed of sound. In a gas, speed of sound being proportinal to the square root of (absolute) temperature, at -70°C it is about 240 m/s, compared to ca 330 m/s at ground level (20°C).
The point is that with air density at ground level, the frictional heat would have the projectile almost bright as the sun.
Posted by: daniel_s | May 19 2023 19:59 utc | 58
@Neofeudalfuture | May 19 2023 17:51 utc | 7
In the meantime prigozhin is still complaining about the flanks, at least according to western narratives. Ukrainian advances haven’t been too serious yet, but the pressure is definitely on, so if russia forgets to defend itself it will find itself being routed. They better up the vodka rations keep their dicks up.
Russia no longer needs the flanks. It was important to control the roads to Artemovsk (Bakhmut), while Russia was attacking the city. Now that Russia controls all of Artemovsk, except for the MiG 17 monument, the roads no longer matter.
Controlling the flanks has always been difficult. They are open fields, and any positions there will be pounded by artillery. Ukrainian presence there is likely to be temporary. Russia always avoided holding on to fixed positions.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 19 2023 20:04 utc | 59
Posted by: young | May 19 2023 18:49 utc | 25
Yes, of course, a freeze will solve everything. The arrogance of the West never fails to amaze me. Clearly, the West knows it is losing, and Russia is winning, but the West still works on the belief that if it offers a freeze of the conflict, that Russia will jump at the offer, because. . well because the great West made the offer and how can those inferior Russians refuse? The West is desperate to freeze the conflict, yet it still works on the presumption that it somehow has the leverage here. Magical thinking abounds, rooted in malignant, delusional, pathological arrogance.
Posted by: Mike R | May 19 2023 20:04 utc | 60
No one had come back from dead, so why trust a guy with one leg in the grave, Biden? He can’t keep any promise, as he doesn’t know how many days he has left on this planet Earth.
Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 20:04 utc | 61
CitizenSmith: Of course the UN ignored those war crimes! The UN was a belligerent in that war, and moreover on the side committing the war crimes you cite!
Posted by: malenkov | May 19 2023 20:04 utc | 62
Here’s a great video about Russian small unit tactics in Donbass, it’s a documentary about a mechanized infantry company of 50 men attacking a roughly equivalent-sized (and entrenched) Ukrainian force. No “massed artillery” and “human wave” attacks here, just plain old maneuver warfare. METT-TC and shoot/move/communicate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcuM-5-KRSw
Posted by: Ian Kummer | May 19 2023 20:05 utc | 63
Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 19 2023 18:08 utc | 12
Wife’s tomato can itw is way older than yesterday. I watched it a while back, several weeks at least, perhaps a few months ago.
Posted by: Mushroom | May 19 2023 20:09 utc | 64
AFTER BAKHMUT (ARTEMOVSK):
A FREEZE? The news has been floating the idea that Biden is looking for a freeze in Ukraine. The idea is that fighting would freeze with a buffer zone between the two forces, that is Russia and Ukraine.
Both sides would benefit from a freeze. However, with better logistics, the Russian advantage from a freeze would be less than what the West could gain.
The West wants a freeze for now because it needs to restore stocks of ammo and other military supplies. The West knows it is losing the logistics war in Ukraine and needs more time to replenish what has been lost on the Ukrainain battle fronts which now can be anywhere the Army Forces of Ukraine (AFU) stores or moves its weapons and ammo within Ukraine. The AFU also desperately needs time to train and retrain its relatively new forced conscripted army.
Posted by: young | May 19 2023 18:49 utc | 25
One might also argue the point that as the Ukrainian forces run out of munitions, fighting efficiency will drop. That also means that Russian fighting efficiency will become relatively more effective. It theoretically also could mean that the logistical demands on the Russian forces will decline, because they need less “stuff” to advance. If Ukraine forces put up less resistance due to shortages, that is.
Of course, that is only theoretical, in practice the demand for supplies might stay the same, it’s just that you get more gains and progress for the same amount of supplies. The pressure would probably be kept to speed up the collapse.
Posted by: unimperator | May 19 2023 20:11 utc | 65
James Bamford in The Nation
Posted by: medo | May 19 2023 17:46 utc | 5
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‘If you want it destroyed, positively, absolutely overnight, call The Marines’ – T-shirt in a store in Quantico.
IMHO, NS2 was done by professionals with major resources at their disposal in a seriously classified op. The US Navy and perhaps friends come to mind. I live in nearby Norfolk VA.
The Nation is a hard-core left wing publication. It does not make NYT, WaPo or wsj a credible news source, by comparison. Think Norman Pollack as chief apologist for various classified US endeavors, lifting a Soviet Sub and the Scorpion disaster.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 19 2023 20:16 utc | 66
I subscribe to Simplicus’ substack cuz it is worth reading imo.
But now that rk the troll is shitting on him I think I’ll put something in his tip jar! Rk’s disdain is the best kind of endorsement!
Posted by: comrade simba | May 19 2023 20:17 utc | 67
Posted by: rk | May 19 2023 19:44 utc | 50
In my experience watching this site and subsequent board commentary? Empty content seems to be your expertise.
You’re going after Simplicius? He presents his analysis in a structured and easily verifiable way. He makes sense to me, a generally cynical individual. And, he has a track record of accuracy.
Posted by: Drake Schroeder | May 19 2023 20:18 utc | 68
Biden is senile.
There won’t be any “freezing” in the Ukraine. It simply has to capitulate.
Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 20:21 utc | 69
The recent crop of “frozen conflict” US media stories is the proof that Ukraine is losing and things aren’t looking to get better. A negotiated freeze is the only face saving option left for the US. Zelensky is running around the world demanding more weapons because he won’t survive a freeze in the active conflict. As soon as war ends people will start asking where all the bodies are, why their great-great-grandchildren will still be paying off US loans, why electricity costs are double and other uncomfortable questions.
Everyone miscalculated but the kremlin miscalculated the least, was best prepared for the eventual reality and has adjusted best.
Posted by: Lex | May 19 2023 20:27 utc | 70
From belligerents to combatants?
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/65173
‼️🇵🇱🏴☠️🇺🇦 And here are the Polish military at the forefront.
I want to clarify that these are not mercenaries, but soldiers of the active Polish army “Armiya Krayovy”
‼️Direct participation of NATO countries in the war against Russia.
Soon you will see how Poland will yell at the whole world that Russia has aggressively invaded the territory of Poland and deprived it of its statehood. And the Polish government in exile will most likely hide in the UK (as during the Second World War), if by then the UK still exists.
Posted by: anon2020 | May 19 2023 20:30 utc | 71
From https://t.me/Slavyangrad/46859
By @Polk105
It seems that Zaluzhny was really killed – the Kiev regime has not been able to find the missing commander for 10 days
The loss of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can no longer be justified by the “tense situation at the front.”
Recall the chronology of this disappearance. The first rumors about the elimination of Zaluzhny appeared after reports of the destruction of the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Pavlograd, against which the Russian Armed Forces delivered massive strikes for two days in a row – on May 7 and 8.
Indirect confirmation of this theory was Zaluzhny’s refusal to participate in a videoconference with the NATO command on May 10, allegedly due to a “heavy workload.” But before, the Ukrainian commander-in-chief never denied himself the pleasure of “shining his face” at such events.
In Kiev, they understand that the death of a media-hyped military leader can disrupt a long-planned offensive, and they are trying with all their might to fend off rumors that have spread.
First, a series of shots were thrown in, in which the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in uniform and sneakers posed for photographers at a wedding – this, apparently, is his “heavy workload”, which prevented him from speaking at a video conference with NATO.
But almost immediately it became known that the photos were old. Zelensky also denied the deaths of Zaluzhny and Syrsky. He repeatedly stated that he had communicated with them, but did not provide any specifics or evidence.
On May 12, a large interview with Zaluzhny was posted, but, as a rule, such materials are prepared much in advance.
For example, Budanov’s interview with Yahoo News was recorded two weeks before the release.
No more new photos of Zaluzhny have been published since then, and the photographs of the head of the ukrovermacht bathing in the Mediterranean Sea that are now circulating have not yet been accurately verified.
For Kiev, the “disappearance” of Zaluzhny is a problem. Even in the most difficult moments, the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine regularly demonstrated that he was alive and controlled the course of hostilities.
While the public can be reassured by old photos and videos, as well as Zelensky’s “honest word”, but sooner or later even the most zombified Ukrainians will have questions.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 19 2023 20:32 utc | 72
Interesting, all of the 8 downed pilots/airmen from the recent Patriot trap. All 8 russians dead: https://twitter.com/chriso_wiki/status/1659464934193872896?s=46
Yeah fuck them, these kids had no idea what was done to them. But all is good because their families might get a sack of potatoes as a thank you gift.
Posted by: Ing. Smrkovsky | May 19 2023 20:32 utc | 73
Zaluzhny may be out of sight for numerous reasons. What if he is somewhere with Ukraine’s mentors and sponsors preparing the future phases of the war to destroy Russia at any cost. I fail to see why that is SUCH a big deal, however curious it may be. We’ll find out soon enough.
It’s not really a big deal, but it may be a small sign of some sort of restructuring going on. I can see a scenario where Zaluzhny was “disappeared” due to his refusal to carry out Zelensky/Biden’s dead-ender tactic of feeding the meat grinder with more of his troops. Or he could have been killed by a Russian attack.
Or he’s in Cyprus visiting some spa. Either way, we’ll likely not get to the truth. And if the UAF is stupid enough to send more troops towards the SW part of Artemoskv, that’s good for Wagner. I am skeptical, I believe that nobody is coming in anymore except some mercs who are used as meat shields by the UAF.
Posted by: ChrisFromGA | May 19 2023 20:36 utc | 74
SitRep Collection two for today.
https://askeptic.substack.com/p/battlefield-update-2023-05-19-2
Posted by: Norwegian | May 19 2023 20:32 utc | 72
All those UA military guys are provincial retards that sat around while NATO rigged their whole country for demolition and the entire population was then pimped out as extras in another MIC snuff movie.
It would really be something if his passing turned out to be an actual loss.
Posted by: anon2020 | May 19 2023 20:41 utc | 76
Posted by: Ing. Smrkovsky | May 19 2023 20:32 utc | 7
Lots of bombast from some guy who squats to piss.
Posted by: Drake Schroeder | May 19 2023 20:43 utc | 77
Funny how Zelensky can travel extensively for so long with no fear of a coup in an authoritarian nation that’s famous for being corrupt. I continue to think he wants a coup while he’s out of town but maybe nobody wants his job. He goes begging and gets BS promises. Eventually he has to go back home and face the music – the worst agony for a narcissist. As for the Ukrainian people, I’m starting to think a la Darwin, that the wisest and most able left the country. The rest hardly protest and fragging is unthinkable. Doesn’t look like they’ll ever rise up.
Posted by: Eighthman | May 19 2023 20:49 utc | 78
Posted by: Intelligent Dasein | May 19 2023 18:08 utc | 11
Checking into the operational history of the USS Parche and USS Halibut should demonstrate the capability of the US Navy underwater, divers included. The USS Jimmy Carter is in their footsteps, but certainly not involved in the shallow waters of the Baltic.
NS2 was perhaps more trivial than some of their other exploits, but, if you are looking for seasoned diving professionals, not much effort required. Even the UDT section of the USN Seals are most capable.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 19 2023 20:49 utc | 79
What a day for our guy, Vladimir! Don’t get angry, trolls. Instead I want you to tell me what would happen if an American airport was cleanly hit by Iran. The response would be devastating and happen within hours. Well, Mariupol airport is in flames. Waiting to see President Putin’s response.
Where is Putin? He was locked out of the Arab summit. A summit that included Assad and Zelensky. He is isolated. Look, many of us wanted a strong Russia – instead we get Putin.
Posted by: Sergei | May 19 2023 20:51 utc | 80
https://remap.jrc.ec.europa.eu/Advanced.aspx
Bottom right spike
Posted by: Whatisthis | May 19 2023 20:53 utc | 81
talk of freezing this war, stopping it so that the Ukraine can re-outfit and recruit more warriors, from Nato (us) and resume at a later date
sort of stop where we are, . . . until. In short knowing that the Ukraine will not win, stop fighting (good idea) …..(of course we will do better next time).
Russia is not interested.
Posted by: medo | May 19 2023 20:59 utc | 82
The escalation capacity of the West should not be underestimated.
F16 shall be sent to Ukraine.
US signals to allies it won’t block their export of F-16 jets to Ukraine
After that there is only one last escalation step.
Posted by: srbin | May 19 2023 20:59 utc | 83
In general, the G7 organization itself is no longer relevant, since it does not include the three largest economies in the world – China, India and Russia. Therefore, it is rather a political club of imperialist countries that are accustomed to plunder.
Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 20:59 utc | 84
Let F-16 come to the Ukraine. Russia will blow them off the sky. Just as the patriot AA system…:)
Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 21:01 utc | 85
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 19 2023 18:28 utc | 20
You’re absolutely right about the broader state/role of the media but including Tucker is laughable. He’s a massive war monger, loves the CIA, only reason he’s anti-NATO when it comes to Ukraine is because he’d rather be at war with China. His father ran the CIA’s Radio Free propaganda outlet. In the 90s he was in Nicaragua supporting the genocidal contras. He smeared Gary Webb when Webb wrote about deep state malfeasance. One of the top Iraq war cheerleaders.
I’d suggest checking out Alan McLeod’s writings on Tucker. Tucker is as aligned with the imperial deep state as anyone in the media. Seems all you have to do is dangle some culture war garbage like keys in front of a baby to get people to overlook those ties.
Posted by: Gengar | May 19 2023 21:02 utc | 86
And, it looks like we may have Artemosvk liberated, just in time for the weekend!
https://t.me/llordofwar/142427
Now, today’s F16 announcement makes sense … the Wurlitzer needs a distraction, and what better distraction than magical Top Gun machines, that’ll do the job!!
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 19 2023 21:03 utc | 88
The escalation capacity of the West should not be underestimated. F16 shall be sent to Ukraine.
Posted by: srbin | May 19 2023 20:59 utc | 83
No doubt. This ends with regime change over there, or over here.
Posted by: Passerby | May 19 2023 21:06 utc | 89
Thus, explosions are reported in Chernihiv, Zhytomyr, Khmelnitsky, Dnepropetrovsk, Rivne, Volyn, Kyiv regions and Lvov. They have been hit by Gerans.
Of course, the Ukies had shot down more than the amount of Gerans that flew in.
Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 21:06 utc | 90
Funny how Zelensky can travel extensively for so long with no fear of a coup in an authoritarian nation that’s famous for being corrupt. I continue to think he wants a coup while he’s out of town but maybe nobody wants his job. He goes begging and gets BS promises. Eventually he has to go back home and face the music – the worst agony for a narcissist. As for the Ukrainian people, I’m starting to think a la Darwin, that the wisest and most able left the country. The rest hardly protest and fragging is unthinkable. Doesn’t look like they’ll ever rise up.
Posted by: Eighthman | May 19 2023 20:49 utc | 78
Funnily enough, if Ukraine were a democratic country, there would most definitely be a coup. Coups don’t occur in oligarchic authoritarian countries. Even worse, this case all the power structures of the state are controlled by US state department, and kept in line with hard core azov nazis, including president Z.
Posted by: unimperator | May 19 2023 21:09 utc | 91
Is Germany ready for Russian tanks again in Berlin.
The west has pushed the last red line watch for a strike on something in the west soon like Norway gas field. See how EU handles winter with no Gas from anyone soon!
Posted by: Peace | May 19 2023 19:03 utc | 35
Germany is acting very schizophrenic:
1. They pour tons of money into their army, to prepare a defense against a Russian invasion (seriously? They expect Prigoshin to jump into his tank and lead his musicians through Kramatorsk, Kharkiv, Kyiv and Warsaw to Berlin when the job in Bakmuth is done?)
2. They send all their weapons, including their most powerful air defense systems Patriot and IRIS, to Ukraine, leaving Germany powerless against possible missile attacks on Berlin or other strategic targets.
Posted by: Marvin | May 19 2023 21:10 utc | 92
Posted by: Gengar | May 19 2023 21:02 utc | 86
Thanks. Tucker did start questioning the narrative on Ukraine, right before he got himself fired. He also had JFK jr on his show, who questioned the mRNA vaccines, which may have been the final straw for his corporate overlords.
And a definition of the term “Mighty Wurlitzer” for those who may not be hip:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_influence_on_public_opinion
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 19 2023 21:11 utc | 93
@medo | May 19 2023 17:46 utc | 5
The US will say and do anything to distract from their complicity. Reserve vesting confidence in any claims in the absence of proximal and compelling evidence, and consider any alleged evidence which does not account for the marine and air movements prior to the demolition as inherently tainted.
Posted by: Hermit | May 19 2023 21:19 utc | 94
Posted by: bevin | May 19 2023 18:18 utc | 17
sorry, i’m not an expert in these things, but why would Ukraine or Poland develop skills to blow up pipelines, w/o some cattle prodding from that feed lot pretending to be a country?
some random azov nazis could run off and do something mischievous somewhere, but sabotage NS2 w/o western knowledge and approval? no way.
and criminals *must* brag. who gloats about destroying an oil pipeline? the guilty.
Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 19 2023 21:19 utc | 95
Nuland is misinformed that the DU radioactive cloud will be a boon for US agriculture exports. Russia outlawed GMO grain a decade ago. whereas US grain is almost entirely GMO. Europe refers to GMO seeds as “Roundup Ready.” EU consumers will reject US GMO crops and Ukrain’s DU crops. Therefore, the DU dusted crops will benefit Russia, not the US. The UK’s shortsighted decision to send DU ammo to Ukraine has literally “backfired”
Posted by: Willow | May 19 2023 21:25 utc | 96
You know bakhmut’s fallen because the G7 have just announced F16s will go to the kiev regime.
Posted by: HERMIUS | May 19 2023 21:29 utc | 97
Here is a link to GMO watch. Vicki “Nukeland” hasn’t done her homework. https://gmowatch.com/where-are-gmos-banned/
Posted by: Willow | May 19 2023 21:32 utc | 98
73. 80.
Is this supposed to be trolling? My God you’re as pathetic as the Western dipshits who started an unwinnable war and are watching their economies unwind. Please, go ask your shift supervisor for some new material, this shit is stale.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 19 2023 21:36 utc | 99
Ah yes, the next great hope..the wonder weapon..the F16!
It’s surprising these are being sent. I’m not exactly sure how some 50 year old jets are going to do anything when they get nailed from beyond the horizon like the superior Russian kit thats already been shot down.
But hey, what do I know, I’m just a layman, not some coked out Western ‘military strategist’. I guess Maerica wants its humilation to be complete.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 19 2023 21:42 utc | 100