Friendly Nations being Friends.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/64034

The Iranian Basir missile at the Milex 2023 exhibition in Minsk is the latest example of the Zulfikar-class missiles, which have a range of 700 km and are equipped with an optical detector head capable of hitting enemy ships at sea.
It is known that “Zulfikar Basir” is installed on a car platform. With the help of this missile, as stated, it is possible to destroy large naval targets, including aircraft carriers.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 19 2023 13:26 utc | 403

@198 O.C. Anonymous
The Dresden Firebombing was scheduled to take place during the Yalta conference but was postponed because of weather. That was already a signal to the USSR, so the nuclear bombing of Japan was a further signal. To think otherwise would be to assume there were no strategic planners at the time, just happenstance.

Posted by: casca | May 19 2023 13:35 utc | 405

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/special-resources/meatgrinder-russian-tactics-second-year-its-invasion-ukraine
RUSI (UK) on changing Russian battle tactics

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 19 2023 13:39 utc | 407

Sam Johnson reckoned years ago that patriotism was the last refuge of a scoundrel. Mind you an English teacher once told me that in Jonhson’s time patriotism was a synonym for soldiering? Don’t know if that was true. I’d be more interested in what the Russians do now. The ball seems to be on their court.
Posted by: Guy L’Estrange | May 19 2023 11:28 utc | 411
Going by what I read some time ago, Sam Johnson was commenting on the French. If so, the commment was probably made during the French Revolution.
I don’t know about now, but in earlier times patriotisms and soldering were strongly linked. Now the troopers need a big supporting cast back home.

Posted by: Jmaas | May 19 2023 13:42 utc | 409

@232 CIA Lurker.
When ethnicity does not equal nationality, you have no nationality. This is what the Deep State is trying to create in the US. A nation whose inhabitants have no inner link of any kind to that nation. Or, in other words, no nation at all, just a collective penal colony.

Posted by: Casca | May 19 2023 13:47 utc | 411

Re:precise Language
Artemosvk hasn‘t fallen it’s been liberated

Posted by: Exile | May 19 2023 13:50 utc | 413

[455]
According to Martin Gilbert, Second World War …….
The Big Three also heard a plea on February 4 by the Deputy of the Chief of Staff of the Soviet forces, General Antonov, for British and American bombing help, “to prevent the enemy from transferring his troops to the East from the Western front, Norway and Italy.” What Antonov asked for was “air attacks against communications.” This Soviet request for Anglo-American air support was presented to the Big Three at their meeting on the afternoon of February 4, when Antonov told the meeting that the Germans were even then transferring to the Eastern Front eight divisions from the interior of Germany, eight from Italy, three from Norway and a further twelve from the Western Front, in addition to six already transferred. Antonov’s exaggerated assignment – only four divisions were transferred from Italy, for example – led Stalin to ask what Churchill and Roosevelt’s wishes were “in regard to the Red Army,” to which Churchill replied that they would like the Russian offensive to continue.
The urgency of the need for some Anglo-American air action to help that offensive was made clear by a sentence in the British Cabinet’s War Room Record that day, in which it was pointed out that “between the Oder bend north west of Glogau and the Carpathians all Russian attacks failed in the face of strengthened German resistance”. On the following day, in a memorandum for the Combined Chiefs of Staff, the British Chiefs of Staff agreed “to do what is possible to assist the advance of the Soviet Army”. That same day, at a meeting of the joint British, United States and Russian Chiefs of Staff, General Antonov went so far as to warn the Western generals that if the Allies “were unable to take full advantage of their air superiority they” – the Russians – “did not have sufficient superiority on the ground to overcome enemy opposition.”
The British and American Chiefs of Staff at once agreed to deflect some of their bomber forces from the attack on Germany’s oil reserves and supplies, then the current priority, to attack on the German Army’s lines of communication in the Berlin-Dresden-Leipzig region. They also agreed, at Antonov’s suggestion, that these three specific cities should be “allotted to the Allied air forces,” leaving the Russian bombers to attack targets further east.
Thus at Yalta, in an attempt to help the Red Army halt the flow of German troops through Dresden and other cities to the Eastern Front, the fate of Dresden – which for “bomber” Harris remained one of the few major unbombed cities – was sealed. It was Harris who, in his capacity as head of Bomber Command, had for so long resisted the call to focus his strength against Germany’s oil resources, preferring to put his faith, which all Allied Intelligence including Ultra had shown to be misplaced, in the creation of firestorms and rubble.
…
On the night of February 13, as part of the Anglo-American plan, agreed at the Yalta Conference, to delay for as long as possible German troop reinforcements being transferred from Norway, Italy and Holland to the Eastern battle zone around Breslau, 245 British bombers struck at the city of Dresden, followed three and a half hours later by 529 more. Their purpose was to destroy the city’s railway marshalling yards. During the first of the two raids, a firestorm, created in a single hour’s bombardment, burnt through eleven square miles of the city.
The British raid on Dresden was followed the next morning by an American raid, also aimed at the marshalling yards, in which 450 bombers took part. Dresden, whose ancient city centre had hitherto been untouched by war, was now on fire; some of the fires were to burn for seven days and nights.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 19 2023 13:54 utc | 415

@ Casca | May 19 2023 13:47 utc | 461
I still claim that “CIA” entity was a ChatGPT or a bot in that direction.
Surely managed by operatives and fed with certain data to get attitude and build a desired personality.
Its answers were deprived of emotions.
Just defending its postulates, spitting its poorly formed and dry written counterarguments.
I think there might be some others around, coming on and off, slowly creeping everywhere.

Posted by: whirlX | May 19 2023 13:56 utc | 417

Exile: even better:
Bakhmut has fallen; Artyomovsk has been liberated.

Posted by: malenkov | May 19 2023 13:59 utc | 419

Who is running the Ukraine, while Zelly is on a world tour?

Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 14:06 utc | 421

[439]
A new expansion of sanctions led by the British and Americans that this G7 group will (have to) join is on it’s way
Absolutely brilliant !!!!! These politicians never study Economics though Sunak is supposed to have at least a smattering to Prelims !
So ban trade in Russian diamonds on the London Diamond Market so they are no longer exported to Antwerp (one of UK’s major export items to Belgium) and the Jews who run cutting centres there can move to Dubai or Bombay to carry on trading and leave Antwerp to the Muslims.
It should also boost De Beers and Alrosa profits as diamond prices spike – no doubt affecting electronics and other sectors.
Then the ban on nickel and copper. That should kill off the London Metal Exchange and move business to Shanghai.
https://qz.com/london-metal-exchange-nickel-bags-warehouse-blunder-1850248390
https://www.scmp.com/business/banking-finance/article/3213837/london-metal-exchange-owned-hkex-seeks-rebuild-reputation-dominance-year-after-nickel-chaos
The London Metal Exchange (LME) is still struggling to regain its reputation and standing as the predominant market for trading nickel and other metals vital to the green energy transition
I mean LME is owned by the Hong Kong Exchange !!!!!!
LME is the world’s premier non-ferrous metals market. LME offers futures and options contracts for aluminium, copper, tin, nickel, zinc, lead, aluminium alloy and NASAAC, steel billet, cobalt and molybdenum. These contracts are traded on three platforms: the Ring, LMEselect (the electronic trading platform) and inter-office telephone. LME approves and monitors a global network of 700 international storage facilities and manages LME-approved brands.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 19 2023 14:07 utc | 423

Rokossovsky no. 244
It’s very ambiguous. Either way nothing is ever as it seems.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | May 19 2023 14:09 utc | 425

Posted by: John Marks | May 19 2023 12:20 utc | 425
Yes. No question. Few outside the UK know the facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Falkland_Islands
Though the account given does seem to show that before the Argentinian invasion, HMG would have been only too happy to ignore the wishes of the inhabitants. British diplomacy before the invasion was at best confused and at worst duplicitous. The former, my view.

Posted by: English Outsider | May 19 2023 14:16 utc | 427

The Syrian delegation refrains from putting on translation headphones during the Ukrainian Zelenskyy speech at the Arab summit in Jeddah.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/64027

Posted by: Norwegian | May 19 2023 14:34 utc | 429

The unelected Von der Leyen does not want peace on equal terms

🇪🇺 The president of the European Commission on the sidelines of the G7 summit in Japan has called on the members not to recognize any peace initiatives which envision equal negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.
Von der Leyen, in particular, expressed support for Zelensky’s “peace formula”.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/46780
Medvedev replies

Мedvedev responded to Ursula von der Leyen’s statement:
“It is hard not to agree with the gynaecologist who pretends to be the head of the EU.
The lady stated that negotiations between Russia and Ukraine on an equal footing should be rejected.
Of course they are.
What kind of equal negotiations can there be with a Nazi state in a half-decay under foreign rule? One can only talk to the masters. Or rather, only with Washington. There are no other interlocutors. And only about the terms of the post-war world order. But it is too early to talk about that.
Therefore no negotiations are needed right now at all.”

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/46788

Posted by: Norwegian | May 19 2023 14:46 utc | 431

Another article on P saying the town is not about to be taken. [Note that this is in contrast with Daily Summary (or maybe Weeb Union, get them confused, similar accents) who said it would fall by Sunday.] The southwest part is still holding.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-prigozhin-says-bakhmut-will-not-fall-next-two-days-2023-05-19/
MOSCOW, May 19 (Reuters) – Wagner founder Yevgeny Prigozhin said on Friday that the city of Bakhmut was unlikely to fall to his mercenary forces in the next two days as fighting raged around Ukrainian soldiers holed up in a makeshift “fortress” in the south of the city.
The Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, known in Russia by its Soviet-era name of Artyomovsk, is in ruins after months of intense fighting between Ukrainian and Russian forces who call it the “meat grinder”.
“Bakhmut has still not been taken,” Prigozhin said in a voice message posted on Telegram. “Bakhmut is unlikely to be taken either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.”
“There is a quarter known as the ‘Airplane’ – it is like an impregnable fortress from a bed of multi-storey buildings in the southwest of Bakhmut, where incredibly heavy battles are going on.”
Russia has been trying to capture Bakhmut since last summer in the longest and bloodiest battle of the war, but Ukrainian defenders have held out. If Russia took the city, it would provide a stepping stone to advance on two bigger cities it has long coveted in the Donetsk region: Kramatorsk and Sloviansk.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19 2023 14:51 utc | 433

DPA Bakhmut update:
https://twitter.com/DefensePolitics/status/1659515159193473024
1. Pretty substantial Ukrainian wins on the flanks.
2.Another few blocks in the city mapped red (towards the Mig/road).

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19 2023 14:57 utc | 435

Is President Selensky doing a world tour asking for more weapons? Or is he scouting locations for his exile?
Posted by: Marvin | May 19 2023 14:09 utc | 474
Given that his world tour dates from that small attack on the Russian capital, it surely looks like he is staying away because he is worried about being assassinated. That is, staying away to stay away.

Posted by: Jmaas | May 19 2023 15:06 utc | 437

🇪🇺 The president of the European Commission on the sidelines of the G7 summit in Japan has called on the members not to recognize any peace initiatives which envision equal negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 19 2023 14:46 utc | 481
If the Russian version of the war is even close to true, then the Europeans are writing checks that their countries can’t cash. I have a sentimental attachment to the various European nationalities. It pains me to watch them in self-destruct mode.

Posted by: Jmaas | May 19 2023 15:09 utc | 439

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19 2023 14:51 utc | 483
Anusnymous, those are yesterday’s news, here you have the link to Prigozhin’s channel so you’ll be able to keep updated, today the only message from Evgeny concerns a request from the Financial Times, Prigozhin offered to keep all his personal laundry, socks, underware and used toilet paper so the FT can thouroghly anal yze his very personal stuff. Later on we’ll find out what is happening today, yesterday’s news are very very old.
https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3377

Posted by: Paco | May 19 2023 15:13 utc | 441

Sushi | May 19 2023 10:54 utc | 401
To some extent. But the targets chosen were also militarily valid locations that would have needed to be attacked in any event in advance of the land invasion, particularly Hiroshima.
All militaries look for opportunities to give new weapons live fire tests. If the nukes hadn’t worked, or been shot down, or whatever, Hiroshima and Kokura/Nagasaki likely wouldn’t have been spared. They would have been subjected to conventional mass fire bombing, like dozens of other cities already had been.

Posted by: OC Anonymous | May 19 2023 15:26 utc | 443

As a matter of interest, does that include the various US naval Carrier Groups?
@Posted by: ZimZum | May 19 2023 11:26 utc | 410
Yes a lot of talk about Kinzhals. But no mention of Russia’s true gem, The Tsirkon (Zircon). They have not been used yet. I am sure Russia will wait till the time is right.
It makes Carriers nothing more than big targets, and as obsolete as the battleship was in WW 2.

Posted by: Golddiggr | May 19 2023 15:27 utc | 445

Jmaas@459
Johnson died in 1784.

Posted by: bevin | May 19 2023 15:39 utc | 447

Perhaps the Arabs inviting Bashar Assad and Wladimir Zelenski to the same meeting is their way of offering their services as intermediary between the warring parties, and at the same time making their own opinion who Zelenski really is.

Posted by: Passerby | May 19 2023 15:46 utc | 449

Paul Greenwood @488
You seem to think because there were military targets in the city, there was no other option than to burn down the entire city. Hiroshima had a garrison and military factories just like Dresden, but does that justify mass murder?
I had to look up Albertstadt which Wikipedia says was the military center of the region but (amazingly) was “not specially attacked in the 1945 allied bombings and it suffered only marginal destruction.” Sounds like they destroyed the entire city except the one major military target.

Posted by: aquileia | May 19 2023 15:55 utc | 451

Brannagyn | May 19 2023 5:21 utc | 315
What a bunch of nonsense. I don’t have any patience for the manipulative ‘oh, the poor innocent Japanese’ framing and attempts at emotional blackmail on this issue,. The fact is that the Japanese refused to surrender and refused to give up their Empire, an empire that was often exceptionally bad even by world historical standards (though not universally. Japan had no real systemic standards for imperial management. It was often up to the whims of local leaders and officers. Some places were pretty okay, like Formosa/Taiwan. Other’s were absolutely atrocious, like the Philippines or parts of China). Japan started a war, shed an extreme amount of blood, and eventually that war came all the way back to their heartland. Horrible yes, because that’s what war is. It could have been ended by the Japanese government agreeing to surrender long before they actually did. It’s not like Japan was some giant castle filled with the besieged remnants of an army cowering besides women and children. The Japanese Empire was still largely intact and continuing to function, often in a murderous and abusive way, on a daily basis. It still had force projection.
RB | May 19 2023 6:22 utc | 327
Absolutely false. The Japanese militarists wanted to preserve as much of their Empire as possible. Keeping the institution of the Emperor was only one of their demands (and ironically one they ended up getting even with the unconditional surrender because DC gave MacArthur carte blanche to run Japan as he saw fit, and he decided keeping the Emperor was easier than getting rid of him. At the very least Hirohito should have been forced to abdicate and his reign ended with Japan’s total defeat. The Showa era should have ended right then and there, in complete ignominy. Let the rebuilding happen after a clean break and the start of a new era). The US strategy had revolved around island hopping and bypassing most of the Empire while aiming straight for the home islands. Japan still controlled a vast amount of occupied territory, including Taiwan, Korea, and large parts of China. It wasn’t ‘some colonies’.
There were several estimates for US casualties in the event of an invasion. There was one that revisionists love to cite because the numbers were ‘only’ in the tens of thousands. There’s no evidence anyone took it seriously. Truman certainly didn’t. MacArthur, who would have been in charge of running the invasion, estimated hundreds of thousands of US casualties, and who knows what the Japanese losses, including civilians, would have been. The US was fresh off off the brutal fighting for Iwo Jima and Okinawa and had every reason to think the fighting for the home islands would be at least an order of magnitude worse.
As for rapes, yes yes, right, and the Red Army raped every girl and woman in Berlin, right. Even if that were true, that’s after something like 30% of the Okinawan population were killed in the fighting, a large number of them either committing suicide or being forced towards American lines at gunpoint (I guess lots of people don’t get this: Okinawans aren’t Japanese. They’re Ryukyuan. They’ve gone a long way towards total assimilation since, but certainly in 1945 they were absolutely viewed as inferior and more disposable by the main island Japanese).
Also, this is absolutely not a line you want to pursue if the attempt is to make the Japanese out to be more virtuous than their ‘barbarian, racist, genocidal’ opponents. This is not a game you want to try and play. The attempts to make the Japanese out to be innocent victims while the Americans were supposedly uniquely civilian murdering monsters is baffling and displays a ludicrous degree of cognitive bias and historical illiteracy. Do you know literally nothing about how the Empire of Japan was formed, expanded, and maintained? The babies of Nanking skewered on bayonets was a thing that literally happened, and much else besides.

Posted by: OC Anonymous | May 19 2023 16:01 utc | 453

“Do you know literally nothing about how the Empire of Japan was formed, expanded, and maintained?”
Who cares? How was it the business of the United States to interfere if Japan wanted to expand its empire in Asia? Same as it’s none of our damn business now what Russia wants to do in Ukraine. America’s concerns other than trade should end at the water line. George Washington was right way at the start of the nation: stay out of foreign conflicts.
We have now won two world-wars, neither of which concerned us, we were
slipped in. We have levelled the powers
Of Europe, that were the powers of the world, into rubble and
dependence. We have won two wars and a third is coming.
This one—will not be so easy. We were at ease while the powers of the
world were split into factions: we’ve changed that.
We have enjoyed fine dreams; we have dreamed of unifying the world; we
are unifying it — against us.
Two wars, and they breed a third. Now guard the beaches, watch the
north, trust not the dawns. Probe every cloud.
Build power. Fortress America may yet for a long time stand, between the
east and the west, like Byzantium.
—As for me: laugh at me. I agree with you. It is a foolish business to
see the future and screech at it.
One should watch and not speak. And patriotism has run the world through
so many blood-lakes: and we always fall in.
— Robinson Jeffers, “So Many Blood Lakes”

Posted by: ASensibleMan | May 19 2023 16:11 utc | 455

refused to give up their Empire

That is what future generations will say about the US.

Posted by: aquileia | May 19 2023 16:12 utc | 457

[506]
Biden just approved F-16 training for UK pilots
I am sure the RAF is eternally grateful to Emperor Joe permitting vassals in UK to train to fly his F-16s…………..but quite why British pilots should train to fly a plane the RAF does not even own or fly – eludes me.
Nevertheless it is wonderful that The Emperor took time from his demented day to grant favour to humble mortals

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 19 2023 16:23 utc | 459

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 19 2023 15:09 utc | 488
Also a rail hub for German troops shuttling between the fronts and transporting Jews to the concentration camps. Anytime a sanctimonious comment is made about Allied bombing I always fall back on Harris’ apposite comment.
‘The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.’
The trouble today is that the veterans of WW2 are mostly dead, so cannot defend themselves from agenda- pushing, revisionists or people who are ignorant of historical context. Climb into a WW2 bomber; imagine you are in your early twenties, three miles up, on an eight hour mission that might end any second in a few fleeting seconds of hellish terror, then talk about the iniquities of bombing cities that help sustain the conflict that has forced you to be there, derailing your life and countless millions of others.

Posted by: Milites | May 19 2023 16:30 utc | 461

If we take the earlier example, that the Kinzhal is fired from across the border at around 100-150km from Kiev, let’s assume that the top of the ballistic arc happens at roughly the midway point. That means roughly the remaining 50km or so could be spent on the downward trajectory of that arc, coming out of stealth. But even at Mach 4-5, 50km will be covered in about 28 seconds. It may begin blipping into radar screens at some point during this but it will leave very little time to react for all but the most finely honed/trained crews.
@karlof1 | May 18 2023 21:12 utc | 119
Given the speeds involved, range, and such a short detection time of Kinzhal, what was the Patriot system shooting at? It unloads for a full 2min – could that possibly be even before the Kinzhal is launched?

Posted by: Palm & Needle | May 19 2023 16:37 utc | 463

…but quite why British pilots should train to fly a plane the RAF does not even own or fly – eludes me. …
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 19 2023 16:23 utc | 511

Britain went and left the European Union a few years ago in a fit of deluded nationalism. Fair enough to my mind, if a state wants to maintain or reclaim its own sovereignty and laws that is a good thing but I cannot see any good in deliberately cutting yourself off from major trading partners and markets.
Now, even more than before it is seeking relevancy and is determined to be more of a US poodle than it ever was and to be seen by its masters as such.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | May 19 2023 16:38 utc | 465

180.
Maerica isn’t afraid of Russia?
Keep telling yourself that, champ. That’s why it is using a cats paw to presecute the war from across the ocean, because it isn’t afraid. Right.
Maerican weaponry has been globally exposed as obsolete, overpriced and difficult to use garbage. I’m looking forward to the images of wrecked M1 Abrams and F16 in Ukraine, should do wonders for those arms sales, eh.
I am also enjoying watching the almighty Dollar, the basis for all Maerican power, slowly roast on the bonfire the Maericans themselves prepared, unable to extricate themselves. What to do?
You can lie all day to your domestic population. Too bad the rest of the world’s militaries are watching and drawing the same conclusions any thinking person does…Maerican weaponry is unfit for purpose ..unless that purpose is to enrich defense company executives.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 19 2023 16:41 utc | 467

Posted by: anon2020 | May 19 2023 16:01 utc | 503
Again, the talismanic, trained by a Western country, without asking the salient question, what experience of the SMO do Swedish (of all nations) instructors have? The Western trained Azov forces, who attacked the Bakhmut flanks, were surprised at the coordination and volume of the Russian’s defensive fire, which speaks volumes about the knowledge of their trainers, beyond doctrinal application.

Posted by: Milites | May 19 2023 16:47 utc | 469

What the US is god at is to attack poorer, weaker countries, but even there it gets kicked out. Now, the US with its “allies” can’t even win any war, ground based war or even an economic one. Sanctions, my ar$e!

Posted by: ostro | May 19 2023 16:51 utc | 471

@Posted by: OC Anonymous | May 19 2023 16:01 utc | 504
The USA would only accept unconditional surrender. This is, of course, psychopathic and goes against all norms of warfare. America’s war against the Japanese people was a genocidal war for white supremacy (just as all of America’s wars have been throughout history). The sufferings of those under Japanese empire did not enter the equation. This should be obvious. Genocidal white supremacist Americans could not care less about Chinese people even today, as they attempt to start a white supremacist war against China now (Biden himself has framed the war against China in explicitly white supremacist terms). The USA simply would not allow a power that was not white western European to exist. Only English, French, etc. could be allowed to have any control over land or resources, and this was the root of the war. Americans spoke quite frankly about this at the time. If the USA were trying to be the anti-imperial global human rights police, as you seem to imply, and as American revisionist history claims, then they would also have needed to go to war against Britain, France, and their own country as well. But that wasn’t the motive and is only ever given as post hoc justification for America’s genocide against the Japanese people.

Posted by: FVK | May 19 2023 16:57 utc | 473

@ Posted by: karlof1 | May 19 2023 16:50 utc | 523
I suspect that the US would request that that Ukraine not make further use of the patriot system in the near term.
That little episode was bad for business – talk about lame!
I saw a clip from an interview interview done by an old British military guy – seemed right out of a Monty Python skit.
Any, he states that really the Knizal missile is not in fact a proper hypersonic missile, that it is only a ballistic missile.
Anyone know what he is referring to – is it valid?

Posted by: jared | May 19 2023 17:03 utc | 475

@ HERMIUS, §275:
The Falklands aren´t and never have been Argentine territory.
They have been British since their discovery in 1690.
Their indigenous inhabitants – the “natives” – are British.
Posted by: John Marks | May 19 2023 12:20 utc | 425

That is correct. Argentina itself didn’t come into existence until the 19th century.
And the Falklands were originally uninhabited — there may have been visits from the mainland, but it’s just to windswept and cold for stable permanent settlement without modern technology.
Also, Argentina is really in no position for moral grandstanding on “colonialism”, because its history isn’t like that of most other Latin American countries, which gained independence in some approximate version of their modern borders — the southern tip of South America had not been conquered by the Spanish when Argentina came into existence, and initially it didn’t control much territory south of Buenos Aires. Patagonia was only conquered through a brutal quite openly genocidal war in the 1870s and 1880s, which is mostly after the analogous process had finished even in the US. And the natives there were in fact looking for establishing and protecting their independence, it wasn’t a terra nullius at all.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 19 2023 17:10 utc | 477

Zelensky‘s inability (?) to return to Kiev is a fascinating topic. Dozens upon dozens of possibilities. The most likely is Zelensky is afraid of being Diem‘d.
Posted by: Exile | May 19 2023 11:01 utc | 406

He’s flying on US military planes though, so if the US wanted him to go back, he would be forced to go back.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 19 2023 17:11 utc | 479

Anyone know what he is referring to – is it valid?
Posted by: jared | May 19 2023 17:03 utc | 528

Give this article a read, its very highly recommended. Pretty sure it will help your understanding.
Regards
Anatomy of MIM-104 Patriot Destruction + Primer on Kinzhal Hypersonic Missile
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-mim-104-patriot-destruction?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | May 19 2023 17:15 utc | 481

‘The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.’
—
Couldn’t it be, then as now, that the target is and was not only to destroy Russian?! Could it be the
goal was (also) to destroy Germans, and now Ukrainians? How else would you explain some Ukrainians
still holding positions in Bahkmut (Tetris/MIG) and reinforcements being send in till yesterday. The
only sensible explanation to me is they are the target.. Just as Germans fighting all the way back
from Moscow to Berlin, for what reasons other then to get destroyed?
Did they die, as the Ukrainians now, without sense – or instead by design? In Bakhmut now as back then
in Berlin.
I don’t think Goebbels was as stupid as portrait in Downfall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fg8y0Qyx-4
And neither is Zelinsky or Sirsky (or whoever is pushing this) as stupid now..

Posted by: C | May 19 2023 17:19 utc | 483

@301, pretzelattack, CIA lurker sounds like the retarded love child of Sean Hannity and Lady Lindsay Graham. Had to put on my hip waders with all the horse shit. Oh well, never a dull moment here at the bar.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | May 19 2023 17:29 utc | 485

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 19 2023 15:09 utc | 488
Also a rail hub for German troops shuttling between the fronts and transporting Jews to the concentration camps. Anytime a sanctimonious comment is made about Allied bombing I always fall back on Harris’ apposite comment.
‘The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.’ The trouble today is that the veterans of WW2 are mostly dead, so cannot defend themselves from agenda- pushing, revisionists or people who are ignorant of historical context. Climb into a WW2 bomber; imagine you are in your early twenties, three miles up, on an eight hour mission that might end any second in a few fleeting seconds of hellish terror, then talk about the iniquities of bombing cities that help sustain the conflict that has forced you to be there, derailing your life and countless millions of others.
Posted by: Milites | May 19 2023 16:30 utc
Nobody claims that the Nazis acted any differently from America on the bombing of civilians! What on earth could you be thinking?
Isn’t the comparison more on Russia’s warfare as opposed to America’s/Britain’s/Nazis’ warfare?
Posted by: Up North | May 19 2023 16:40 utc | 503
The National Socialists understood the logic of liberal Democracy and almost allowed Europe to survive as Europe. Harris was a shabby goy. While the Germans did tactically bomb a few liberal regimes to force surrender they didn’t mean to exterminate the Dutch, Spanish, French, Poles, Czechs, Greeks etc they were trying to prevent Globohomogayplex form taking root. The RAF guys and USAAF knew not what they did to burn the hearkt out of Europe like they did. Strategic bombing was designed to exterminate entire cities. Noting the Luftwaffe did outside Leningrad, and Stalingrad was anything like this scale of genocide.

Posted by: Wokechoke | May 19 2023 17:37 utc | 487

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Posted by: lex talionis | May 19 2023 17:47 utc | 489

Posted by: Milites | May 19 2023 16:47 utc | 503
Not in this case, note the clown face in the TG post, they doubt the effectiveness of this new formation and so do I. Of interest was the Archer artillery system and renewed contempt for Nazi consorts who ought to have learned their lesson the first time around.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 19 2023 18:47 utc | 491

Posted by: Mushroom | May 19 2023 7:53 utc | 336
“this doesn’t prove Kinzhal is invincible or a Patriot killer IMHO.”
I doubt there are many willing to validate your conclusion. It is a reasonable assumption that the US and Russia will proceed as proven or demonstrated.

Posted by: horseguards | May 19 2023 19:28 utc | 493

Posted by: Katharina | May 19 2023 8:27 utc | 346
That’s funny.

Posted by: horseguards | May 19 2023 19:45 utc | 495

Posted by: Down South | May 19 2023 8:36 utc | 351
It may be the Russians who ultimately decide who takes over.

Posted by: horseguards | May 19 2023 19:53 utc | 497

One way about thinking about the Hersh Report is that what it accomplished is that it allowed people to assert what already knew to a reasonable certainty. It gave them permission because they had a source they could reference to.

Posted by: Jmaas | May 19 2023 21:48 utc | 499