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May 9, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-110
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Milites | May 9 2023 21:07 utc | 71
Somewhere in a windowless basement office in Whitehall I picture an eccentric misfit Lieutenant General that when he isn’t making paper doll chains is dreaming and planning a Normandy style invasion based on his favorite sport of kayaking. Humored to his face and made fun of behind his back for the last 30 years suddenly his 15 minutes of fame have arrived.
Someone now in HQ remembered being chatted up at an officer’s party about a kayak strike force and thought, “What the hell, we’re throwing everything else at Russia, money’s certainly not lacking!” Having hesitantly run it by an American general pal he was surprised to hear, “Kayaks, huh, I’ve been thinking along the lines of underwater scooters myself, my brother-in-law owns a company. I really think we can make this work. Let me make a few calls…”
On a more serious side, this won’t be conscripted infantry taught in a rush to paddle and swim with flippers, it could very well be mercenary USA and UK seals in command with UKR special forces that will cross at night, land silently and move ahead to find and destroy RF scouts and artillery spotters close to the waterfront establishing a path inland for the larger strike force in speed boats that will hit the beach right before dawn. These will move quickly forward clearing any resistance for the large infantry force that will storm the shores in boats and barges at daylight.
RF’s Air Force might have been baited these last few weeks with so little AA resistance. But, the AFU landing force will the armed to the teeth with new Stingers and NATO AA and backed with dozens of Patriots and truck launched AA just across the river. So, not that far fetched.
I’ve been in a few big rivers, except out in the middle they are all muddy, stinky, gluey, marshy and swampy, all sort of submerged trees and shopping carts along the banks, not much like ocean kayaking or snorkeling. Practically impossible to get out of the kayak except at specific put ins. How do you say Big Muddy swampy mess in Ukrainian? Still, you’ve got to be in it to win it, that’s the military mind.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 9 2023 22:44 utc | 101
It can be made sense of if you realize that prigozhin is a Jew with a lot of elbow room to shoot his mouth off.
“Prigozhin was at it again, issuing more blistering condemnations of Russian military leadership. It wasn’t widely reported on. probably at least in part, because it was Victory Day. Again it’s so off the scales that the man has either totally lost it, or there is some basis of truth in what he says. Many will claim this is just either a psy-op or Prigozhin maneuvering for a move into politics. When I read his words…his total freak out…I cannot picture this to be either.”
It’s a typical feature of the one’s chosen. Prigozhin is a (((Russian))) from central Hollywood casting.
“Something is not right in the house of Russia. I lack serious need to know information to draw any kind of conclusions on anything Russia is doing or intends to do or the true condition of their non-elite fighting forces. But I do have my reservations although I still believe Russia will ultimately prevail if the psychopaths who rule the west don’t take us over the abyss. Something they are quite capable of doing in my opinion. Just look the list of latest provocations… These people are insane and out of control.”
Prigozhin is a tribal cousin of the (((Psychos))) like Nuland, Sullivan and Blinken. The outbursts and attention he gets are setting him up to become a presidential candidae in Russia. And he is not Russian.
Posted by: JustAMaverick | May 9 2023 21:38 utc | 88
Posted by: Wokechoke | May 9 2023 22:46 utc | 102
Deplorable Commissar | May 9 2023 22:05 utc | 93
You could address my valid points about the IMF, instead attempting a comedy routine
Nah. Will take Andy’s “comedy routines” ahead of your “contributions”.
At least Andy successfully amuses…. Your self-proclaimed “valid points”, are merely tiresome and tendentious
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 9 2023 22:48 utc | 103
I am utterly fed up with Preghorzin, utterly. The man is showing signs of megalomania and a serious and complete lack of judgement, skill or authority. I hoe Suruvikin quietly substitutes the Chechens for him and P is sidelined back to Africa. Jesus, at a critical point in this SMO all he does is Me Me Me!!! He has got to go and soon. He is now a major liability.
Posted by: Jo Dominich | May 9 2023 22:55 utc | 104
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 9 2023 7:38 utc |
US is at the denial/anger stage. I doubt there will be any bargaining or acceptance. SA now selling oil for RMB. China grabbed the US golden goose.
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Peter, again you have dodged the issue of yesterday and previous days when I was extrapolating with you the possible “fall of US Empire” outcome.
First you said it will come hard and soon. I said, no, very unlikely, that it will take years, and only after fierce resistence.
Then @Karlov1 replied to me that the US knows how to surrender by evidence of its Vietnam, Afghanistan,and other withdrawals.
I disagreed, saying that it will probably continue this proxy forever-war to the last US dollar (and beyond) according to its egoistic hegemony syndrome UNTIL massively FORCED TO adapt by the combination of internal forces (a new president Nov 2024) and external forces (Sino-Russian military threat, plus BRICS etc). But in the meantime, the cornered animal will deny, resist, bargain, accept, and maybe eventually surrender to multipolarity — but over a VERY long period — and not overtly but by covering its smelly arse through global narratives of its great power and wisdom. Remember, I pointed out that US arogance and superiority lies in its people AND its admin. Lindsay Graham, for example, is merely a popular American archetype.
You replied, as quoted above — no, it will fall hard and soon but without bargaining, acceptance and surrender.
So how on earth do you factually/historically justify this perspective. Methinks you’re wishful thinking. Realpolitik shows otherwise.
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 9 2023 23:07 utc | 105
RFK, Jr.: “By the way what we are doing in Ukraine is not good for the Ukrainian people. We have killed 300,000 Ukrainian troops, 14,000 civilians.”
I’m not sure where RFK, Jr. got the 300,000 number–but I look forward to RFK, Jr. driving a stake into Brain Dead Joe Biden’s 2024 election run once a week on fox news. As long as this war drags on it is Biden’s War.
And where are all the Environmental Activists? How many oil and ammo depots need to be blown up before they start calling for an end to this environmental (and human) disaster? The cities and towns that Russia has taken look like WWI battle fields with each house bombed hundreds of times and only the smoking remains are left. If the war ended today it would take years to raze Bakhmut, do an environmental study to test for hazards and then begin to plan the rebuild. Every town and city that Russia takes is being absolutely decimated with artillery with hardly even a tree limb left.
Posted by: Dulles_Did_Dallas | May 9 2023 23:12 utc | 106
re: Melaleuca | May 9 2023 22:40 utc | 99
thanks for the heads up on the latest from Popular Mechanics
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a43804177/russias-kinzhal-missile-is-not-hypersonic/
“Turns out, Russia’s kinzhal missiles aren’t really hypersonic . . .”
I posted the link on Andrei Martyanov’s blog, am hoping he will comment. I have had this same assertion made by another US physics professor . . . not a good sign when even Western scientists believe the propaganda.
Perhaps the Russians will be willing to provide a demonstration soon on NATO headquarters?
Posted by: Steven Starr | May 9 2023 23:39 utc | 107
Posted by: Ed | May 9 2023 21:37 utc | 86
I’d like to know how you come to the conclusion that Cosman is a ‘both siderism troll’. He’s been very accurate about NATO escalation predicting months ahead the deployment of armour and shows clearly how the ‘weasels’ in the West change their narrative. The only evidence of both-siderism is his warning to doubt both sides official version, sound advice I’d say and not evidence of trollish behaviour.
Posted by: Milites | May 9 2023 23:46 utc | 108
Texas shooter “his personal politics were very hard to figure out”
Texas police have just confirmed that the shooter had Nazi tattoos.
I wonder what country inspired that?
Not that the USA establishment would worry at all if mission creep just attacked its citizens.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 9 2023 23:57 utc | 109
Yup. This.
Battle hardened and geared to the teeth with unknown amounts of armaments “gone missing.”
Totally within the realm of possibility.
https://www.rt.com/news/575844-snow-isis-terrorist-europe-ukraine/
Posted by: Irish | May 10 2023 0:04 utc | 110
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 9 2023 23:07 utc | 104
US arogance and superiority lies in its people AND its admin. Lindsay Graham, for example, is merely a popular American archetype.
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You have little understanding of American demographics, incorrect assumption of the so-called American democratic process.
Posted by: John2007 | May 10 2023 0:18 utc | 111
Melaleuca # 22:40 utc | 99
re Kinzhal strikes popular mechanics hypersonic deniers.
Well, I guess I am relieved that it is f*ing extreme fast and incredibly maneuverable – even if not a perfect fit for the dictionary definition. (as written by western dictionaries ;))
But there is limited proof that the glorious US supplied AD system shot it down. I guess that is possible but as the report originates from Ukraine, I will believe that when I see it.
I gather it is doing a fine job right now and it is good to see it being field tested and likely improved.
I have read debunk reports of the effectiveness of the claimed shoot down with some reporting that it was a sewer pipe in the photo. Now who would be putting sh!t on the USA.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 0:29 utc | 112
Some videos for today.
‘Western globalist elites insist on their exclusivity, provoke conflicts and coups’ – Putin:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/PutinRedSqParade:f
The Ukrainian people have become hostages to the Western-masterminded post-coup criminal regime – Putin:
https://odysee.com/@SputnikInternational:c/2023-05-09-13.07.27:9
RT follows Wagner Group in embattled Artemovsk under artillery fire:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Wagner_0805:2
Russian Armed Forces stormed building near medical school in western Artemovsk:
https://odysee.com/@SputnikInternational:c/2023-05-08-13.41.42:2
Russian Giatsint-B howitzer in action:
https://rutube.ru/video/3badc84d396d91625944b8d786704c58/
Russian T-72B3 tank destroys Kiev regime T-64 tank:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/4207175928448:2
Posted by: Nate | May 10 2023 0:30 utc | 113
Jo Dominich | May 9 2023 22:55 utc | 103
*you’re* exasperated with Prigozhin.
Now. Imagine if you worked in the Russian Chief of Staff, or possibly anywhere within the Russian military or … wider society…..
IMVVVHO Prigozhin needs to do a personal security risk assessment. Soon.
Strutting around a fluid, “foggy” FEBA …. walking among those that you’ve thoroughly pissed off.
Yeah. I’d be cautious..
[Maybe I should ask British bookmakers for odds on Prigozhin’s longevity.]
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 0:34 utc | 114
Ukranazistan has recaptured 3 square km of Artëmovsk both according to Prigozhin and the nazis. That’s a huge amount since it more than doubles the area under Ukranazi control.
How’s that “operational cauldron” thing working out for the copium addicts?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 10 2023 0:34 utc | 115
@The Dolphin 104
Wishful thinning has ruled the roost since at least 2021 in the allegedly pro Russia crowd.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 10 2023 0:37 utc | 116
Steven Starr | May 9 2023 23:39 utc | 106
>Popular Mechanics … says kinzhals are as scary as fairy cakes ……
“…I posted it on Martyanov’s blog”
Me: I can feel the tremors of his brain exploding from here, far away in the antipodes.
You’re a brave man, Steve.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 0:43 utc | 117
You replied, as quoted above — no, it will fall hard and soon but without bargaining, acceptance and surrender.
So how on earth do you factually/historically justify this perspective. Methinks you’re wishful thinking. Realpolitik shows otherwise.
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 9 2023 23:07 utc | 104
I’ts about Critical Mass. The US is failing at so many levels and dimensions that the trajectory is impossible to control or to quantify. However as in physics as critical mass is slowly reached explosions will go off simultaneously and suddenly.
US has been on a certain path because there has been little resistance from outside and systems continuing to work on the inside, albeit degraded.
You’d have to be blind to not notice that this is no longer the case.
So those predicting a slow fall aren’t taking into account the factors of simultaneous collapse internally (banks are just one aspect) combined with external pressures and massive shifts globally.
The Realpolitik that we see is countries shifting allegiance at speed.
Posted by: K | May 10 2023 0:48 utc | 118
Jo Dominich@103….if you are that fed up, get on a plane and……thought so. You are not burying Comrades, cut the guy some slack…..and if by chance the dead Wagner’s might be alive if they had something extra…..then it should be supplied asap.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 10 2023 0:49 utc | 119
Nate | May 10 2023 0:30 utc | 112
Thanks for your daily bulletin.
Just like an old fashioned newsroom… everyone with a “round”
You do vid
Down South does telegram (along with other contributors)
I’m inclined to think MoA has the best citizen researches active ATM.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 0:51 utc | 120
Biswapriya Purkayast # 0:37 utc | 115
Wishful thinning has ruled the roost since at least 2021 in the allegedly pro Russia crowd.
It sure has;)
And with measurable results: there are a lot less nazis about in Ukraine these days.
It is an allegedly good result for the pro Russia crowd.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 1:05 utc | 121
K | May 10 2023 0:48 utc | 117
>US decline.
No better example than the USSR.
When did “the rot” set it?
USSR was the controlling entity of half of Europe.
And then, one day, it “suddenly” wasn’t.
Historians, like our Karl, will review, debate…
But for me, the final, fatal mistake was the 2022 Sanctions From Hell™️ which included kicking Russia off SWIFT and confiscating Russia’s foreign reserves.
That overt “weaponisation” of the USD allowed every other nation to understand how precarious and vulnerable they all are to capricious and vicious U$ policy _ its “rules-based international order”.
[we make the rules, we apply them internationally, and you do as we order _ or else]
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 1:05 utc | 122
Steven Starr # 23:39 utc | 106
Perhaps the Russians will be willing to provide a demonstration soon on NATO headquarters?
Maybe already taken care of?
The account is debatable.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 1:11 utc | 123
K | May 10 2023 0:48 utc | 117–
It’s about Critical Mass. The US is failing at so many levels and dimensions that the trajectory is impossible to control or to quantify.
Quite. I’ve written about the need for the public to form a critical mass since 2014, and attaining that was the subject for some of my first essays at VK in 2000 as Trump-Biden was forming up. It’s clearly not anything new; the Roman public did it almost constantly in its ongoing Class War between the Creditor Oligarchy and those in debt, which was the majority of the landless urban masses.
@bar took note of the rehearsals.
Here’s the real thing on the big day.
https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1655854210678751232
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 1:21 utc | 125
A History of Russian Innovation
Simplicius the Thinker makes excellent posts on Substack. Yesterday, he impressively listed Russian inventors who’re mostly absent from Western history. We know that history is written by the victors, but nowadays its as much written by who controls the media.
Many of the greatest breakthroughs are shadowed in a haze of half-truths and arbitrary claims. And when there’s any ambiguity, the U.S. invariably gives its own inventors the sweeping benefit of the doubt. But let us uncloak some of these veils, and reveal the truth about the seminal inventions of the 19th and 20th centuries.
* * * * * *
Death Trap on the Volga: Stalingrad
Between the foreboding, ominous, and widely identifiable impression of Stalingrad as the unparalleled urban apocalypse battle, and the undeniable sense that the battle represented a momentous pivot in the course of the war, it is perhaps less fashionable to think about the battle as an operational contingency – a mere chance, or even an accident. The battle was apocalyptic, massively violent, and historically significant – this much is clearly undeniable. Yet it is equally true that Stalingrad itself was nothing less than an instrumental objective for both armies – certainly, nobody set out in 1942 with the intention of fighting over this unremarkable and drab city.
Indeed, it is rarely understood why, exactly, this city was so viciously fought over. There remains a myth (which seems impossible to eradicate) that the city became a battleground because it was named after Stalin. The idea that Hitler wanted to embarrass Stalin by capturing his namesake retains eternal allure, because it allows Hitler to be reduced to a childish simpleton, destroyed by his own petty hubris. Tempting, perhaps, but also untrue, and representative of the worst sort of history for children.
Posted by: Mike Hampton | May 10 2023 1:22 utc | 126
Melaleuca | May 10 2023 1:05 utc | 121–
Many agree with that assessment, including me as I’ve said before. The Outlaw US Empire sat upon a three-legged stool–Military Power Projection; Dollar Hegemony; Myth of Good Empire. The first is severely degraded, the second was kicked away as described, and the third went out with the second, and the stool collapsed. It just hasn’t hit the bottom of the chasm it’s toppling into–yet.
As I commiserated with Ed yesterday, it will be an uncomfortable event for many living within the Empire. I read earlier that McCarthy rejected settling the debt ceiling issue prior to meeting with Biden. Just shy of 18 months till the next election.
You have little understanding of American demographics, incorrect assumption of the so-called American democratic process.
Posted by: John2007 | May 10 2023 0:18 utc | 110
Lmao. No in fact, you poor butthurt Murican. I have a better objective view than you! It is exactly your precious “American democracy and its demographics” which votes in the WORST of its kind.
Graham et al, are just the John Waynes of our time, the Planetary Cowbows and Sherrifs. Think about it. They patrol, challenge, duel, shoot,
steal, braggadocio all other mortals towards their moralist goals.
The American Superiority Complex and fetid nationalism begins in kindergarten, through school, ivy league, Hollywood, Wall Street, Superbowl, right up to the Oval Office with all its flag-waving, hand-on-heart, Gard-will-protect-us-all shit.
YOU are a perfect example of the chronic bullydom-denial which causes every piece of shit the USA has ever caused globally. YOU just dont see it, don’t get it.
True multipolarity will not properly emerge until EVERY AMERICAN realises it has no innate right to rule the world. Maybe then, a Congress will exist which plays respectfully, harmoniously with others on the field.
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 10 2023 1:29 utc | 128
“Melaleuca # 99”
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/05/ukraine-open-thread-2023-110.html#:~:text=Melaleuca%20%7C%20May%209%202023%2022%3A40%20utc%20%7C%2099
Ballistic missiles with a range of more than about 400 kilometers are hypersonic. Of course they don’t have air breathing, SCRAMJET propulsion. They might have maneuverable warheads. Given the fact that a plasma flow around a hypersonic missile will absorb electromagnetic energy at many wavelengths, guidance is just as problematic for the missile as tracking and targeting is for the defender. Aerodynamic drag will also decelerate an unpowered missile to barely supersonic velocity. Potential manauverability is also limited by the high velocity.
The Dagger missile is obviously an effective system. However; it isn’t quite as spectacular as people presume. Gun systems similar to the Phalanx, Goal Keeper and Russia’s own Kashtun should be able to engage them
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | May 10 2023 1:44 utc | 129
Now that the much ballyhooed spring offensive has kicked off with direct attacks on and in the Russian Federation it is difficult to see how the Russian Government will be able to continue with an SMO rather than declaring war and a full mobilisation.
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 10 2023 1:57 utc | 130
re: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 0:43 utc | 116
Andrei commented on the Popular Mechanics hypersonic denier article:
“Two Ph.Ds in political science–a euphemism for technological illiteracy. BSers and sore losers coping.”
Larchmonter also commented:
“Hypersonic implies maneuverability. The West could not even show they tracked one. There were six in the last deep attack. Let’s see the radars that tracked the six or any one of the six.
They launched from MiG-31s and Tu-23Ms. So they have a lot to prove to make their judgments scientifically correct.
Where’s the Beef?
Like always, they serve up bullshit and call it mignon.”
Posted by: Steven Starr | May 10 2023 1:59 utc | 131
Elmer Fudd | May 10 2023 1:44 utc | 128
Maybe head over to Popular Mechanics and debate them.
Or this guy…
Yeah. Go discuss hypersonics with this guy.>>
Hypersonics are *so hyped* … which projected this U$ military physics guy into a *hyper* explosion of explanatory exhalations:
https://twitter.com/Smart_Sapper12B/status/1649203904784093187
[if anyone wants Martyanov to have a stroke, just send him this series of tweets]
https://twitter.com/Smart_Sapper12B/status/1649942142700122113
https://twitter.com/bobstar_m/status/1650220272757403648
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Poland shows its gratitude to Russia on Victory Day 2023
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1655862876794396673
In Estonia. The same sentiment as an elderly man is arrested for placing flowers at a memorial
https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1655984469747048448
And Latvia
https://twitter.com/handsandtools/status/1656041009212473355
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 2:00 utc | 132
A point about deception that I haven’t read yet. It should be overwhelmingly obvious at this point that the eagerness of the West to jump to conclusions and seize every minor point as of great significance is almost beyond belief. Is Putin walking funny? Why is there only one parade tank? Why haven’t they used more (expensive) missiles? They’re running out of armor ’cause many of them are old, right?
The Russians would have to be complete idiots NOT TO NOTICE and play into this wallowing in self deception. They must be laughing their asses off at the sheer ease of maskirovka (hope I spelled that right). It’s ridiculous.
Posted by: Eighthman | May 10 2023 2:04 utc | 133
Posted by: K | May 10 2023 0:48 utc | 117
I seriously wish I could see it that way. BUT … all you describe are mere beginning *symptoms* of a change afoot. Yes, I get the critical mass theory. But … in animals such as the US deep state and its obedient admin, the critical mass collapse effect only brings on the next stage of resistence; heels dug in deeper; more psyops of narrative change; more blocs of “support”; bigger threats; irrational lashing out — think, a drowning man resisting rescue. Perhaps some envision a quick and complete emasculation of the US economy and society. Can’t see it myself.
The US ain’t gunna be nicey nicey and sit at a table as global peers due to external pressures. Just.won’t.happen. They ain’t gunna implement some armistice based on some new wisdom.
Imo, the real proof of empire collapse will be when America pulls its fucking head out from EVERY overseas conflict; disbands its military arms on all continents; truly plays one-man-one-vote in the UN; studiously LISTENS to Putin and Xi instead of blustering them; leaces Taiwan alone; allows a new European Security Framework — although, its none of their fucking business anyway. That’s for Europe to work out.
I don’t speculate a timeframe, except that it’s slow and long. Yes, the *process* of collapse is quickening. But rebuild, healing, the NWO, is still far away. Remember, America is a behemoth of a country, an economy, a military. It ain’t made of foam rubber. It ain’t gunna change shape just from being squished a bit. Imo, it’ll be a harder nut to crack than any wishful thinkers appreciate.
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 10 2023 2:06 utc | 134
It appears as though many proprietors of Russian Telegram channels are still sleeping, however one of two channels are reporting that things have really kicked off overnight 9th-10th of May.
The RF efforts accelerated further south west around Zaporizhia with many geranium attacks on hohol barracks & troop formations ammunition warehouses etc, while the ukies launched against Bakmut Artyomovsk and western social media is already claiming great success but the RF media reporting the opposite. As well the fascists have committed a number of terrorist acts on civilians in Russia as well as some drone attacks actually launched from within RF territory
Rybar english says the MOD reports
“he most intense fighting continues in Bakhmut, where Russian forces continue to press the enemy on the western outskirts of the city in the area of Liberators of Donbass Street.
In the area of Chasov Yar, the French journalist for France Press Arman Soldin was killed during an artillery attack.
▪️ Artillery duels do not stop along the entire line of contact – on Russian territory, several civilians were killed under the blows of the AFU, and a child was wounded in a village near Melitopol.
Ukrainian formations continued shelling the Belgorod region – civilian infrastructure and residential buildings in Shebekino and Spodaryushino were damaged.
▪️ The US announced another $1.2 billion military aid package to Ukraine.”
I do not want to clog this site up with copynpasta from TG so anyone awake & interested should check out their telegram channels.
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 10 2023 2:15 utc | 135
Eighthman | May 10 2023 2:04 utc | 132
And. Russia’s “messaging” around Victory Day is internal.
They know the world is watching.. but the Day is purely Russian.
If I’m a Russian or Donbass soldier and feel there’s shortages of munitions or whatever (and when are there not perceived shortages), and I see a shitload of shiny toys and guys in fresh faces and clean new uniforms parading in Moscow. I’m gonna be pissed.
Why are the toys being played with in Moscow when we need them here?
Why are those faggots parading around when we need them here?
The “trick” with May 9 this year was to keep traditional alive, keep the solemnity of it; but be aware and sensitive that Russia is at war again, and parades must be placed second until the next victory.
At this point, whatever Russia does is cause for derision by the hyenas and chihuahuas.
Fuck em.
Russia held a 2023 Victory Day that captured and reflected for Russians, where Russia is right now in its existential war with USNATO.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 2:19 utc | 136
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 10 2023 2:15 utc | 134
I do not want to clog this site up with copynpasta from TG so anyone awake & interested should check out their telegram channels.
Thank you, Debs. The copy/pasta from TG is enormously valuable to those who are unable for various reasons to access TG themselves. DownSouth’s posts are equally useful. Very grateful for these updates.
Posted by: Mexicana | May 10 2023 2:22 utc | 137
“America is a behemot of a country , an economy… It aint made of foam rubber” what a Joke. More than half of americas economy is especulation, full stop of zombie enterprizes sustained by the dollar, with a mediocre industry tiny for the size of its (over inflated) GDP. American economy is WAY more inflated than late 80s USSR, which at the time had the 2 largest economy ,at over 7 trillion dollars adjusted for inflation. American economy is mostly service, and finance volatile and built on a house of cards. “..take a VERY long time…” The US will likely collapse by 2028, wont be a “superpower” once it can no longer inflate value of zombie economy with dollars.
Posted by: Phariah | May 10 2023 2:23 utc | 138
Debsisdead | May 10 2023 2:15 utc | 134
As many have stated for a year. Not all here have access to telegram.
Which is why Down South is appreciated for the extracts posted.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 2:25 utc | 139
From Rybar english
“The mass UAV strike continues to be repulsed by all available forces and means.
Probably, tonight can be recorded in history as the most massive use of anti-drone weapons to protect the Russian Federation.
It is also unfortunate that several dozen drones were launched from the territory of the Russian Federation – including aircraft-type drones.
A week ago, the Internet complained that it was impossible to order a normal taxi in Moscow due to a malfunctioning GPS. As shown today and will be seen from the results of last night, such measures are fully justified.
Another feature of the hostilities was the use of previously thought “exhausted” stocks of “Tochka-U” (several attempts to strike at Lugansk and Valuyki).
#Russia Ukraine”
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 10 2023 2:36 utc | 140
The Dolphin # 1:29 utc | 127
True multipolarity will not properly emerge until EVERY AMERICAN realises it has no innate right to rule the world. Maybe then, a Congress will exist which plays respectfully, harmoniously with others on the field.
Yea to all that, and, perhaps they should make administration lies a sacking offence. You might consider:…
Philip Giraldi at UNZ reports “The Difference Between Secrets and Lies”
When it comes to lying, I am, of course, referring to the bizarre behavior by the United States government, most particularly ever since 9/11, to commit war crimes and then come up with reasons for its foreign and national security policies to have taken a singular aggressive and coercive turn not justified by reality or by any real threat. That shift in behavior has had a profoundly negative consequence, with much of the world now inclined to identify the United States as the most dangerous country globally speaking in terms of being the greatest threat to peace among nations.
“And there’s more.
“There is also the recent revelation, also from Sy Hersh, that Volodymyr Zelensky and his gang of crooks have stolen $400 million from the cash provided by the Biden Administration to buy diesel fuel for the Ukrainian Army. The fraud was discovered by the CIA, whose Director William Burns actually personally confronted Zelensky with the numbers and names of those involved in January. Zelensky and his profiteers carried out their project by obtaining the money from the United States Treasury at the US petrodollar rate per gallon plus shipping costs before turning around and buying the fuel from cheaper suppliers located regionally, including the Lukoil Neftohim Burgas refinery located in Bulgaria. The difference then disappeared into the pockets of Zelensky and his generals. And where did the less expensive fuel come from? Mostly from Russia and also from Iran!
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 2:37 utc | 141
uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 2:37 utc | 140
ClownZ would (presumably) know better than to steal a dealer’s stash….
But OMGOMGOMG how *stoopid* to steal *oil* from the U$.
Who have made stealing oil an art form for a century or more.
ClownZ + team didn’t factor the $$$$ in the U$-aid4oil scam were intended to flow back into U$ congresscritters and associated pockets.
§~ First law of thug life survival. Don’t fuck over your dealer.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 2:45 utc | 142
BlackRock launches Ukraine Development Fund together with the Ukrainian government
What’s worse for Ukraine in the long term, Russia or BlackRock?
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The Army We Don’t See (The Private Soldiers Who Fight in America’s Name)
“The way mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin and his private army have been waging a significant part of Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine has been well covered in the American media, not least of all because his firm, the Wagner Group, draws most of its men from Russia’s prison system. Wagner offers “freedom” from Putin’s labor camps only to send those released convicts to the front lines of the conflict, often on brutal suicide missions.
At least the Russian president and his state-run media make no secret of his regime’s alliance with Wagner. The American government, on the other hand, seldom acknowledges its own version of the privatization of war — the tens of thousands of private security contractors it’s used in its misguided war on terror, involving military and intelligence operations in a staggering 85 countries…”
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US Sanctions Are Brutal and Inhumane. And They Don’t Work.
“While less than 4 percent of the world’s countries were sanctioned in the early 1960s, 27 percent of them are now targets of sanctions regimes.”
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Released Wagner fighter claims compensation for custody conditions in Volgograd colony
“An amnestied fighter from the Wagner PMC (Private Military Company) is seeking compensation through the court for the custody conditions at the SIZO (pre-trial prison) and the Volgograd colony, where he had served his term for a murder…”
Posted by: Mike Hampton | May 10 2023 2:55 utc | 143
Posted without further comment
U$ military right now.
https://twitter.com/JebraFaushay/status/1654872852594581504
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 3:03 utc | 144
Melaleuca # 2:45 utc | 141
Agreed and certainly don’t try to sell confiscated gear on your dealers turf that likely came from his clobbered stash.
Seriously though, this event points to a Ukraine oligarchy that is severely fractured by competing mafiosi and no one to bang heads and sort stuff out. I assume that was Joe and Hunters main gig before Joe got elevated.
I recall Joe bragging about how he used his persuasive tools to straighten out the corruption inquiry irritant. It was a pointer to what was to come in the USA once the ‘big man’ became President. It would be a bleak tale if we ever got to hear ten percent of it and BlackRock would feature for sure.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 3:06 utc | 145
Posted by: West of England Andy | May 9 2023 16:54 utc | 4
Now, that was funny. Kudos.
Posted by: Longhorn | May 10 2023 3:39 utc | 146
I wonder how much of Bakhmut the Ukrainian forces hold. A few nights ago there were intense strikes against the western part of Bakhmut that Ukrainian forces still held, but there’s no mention its had any effect on gaining ground or not. The last I read is that Ukrainians held 7-10% of Bakhmut.
Posted by: MiniMo | May 10 2023 3:40 utc | 147
Trolls be working OT, must be close to the final chapter or act in this play.
I concur with Karlof1 that the collapse will be sudden. This collapse will result in the rising of the totalitarian HRE, or final (7th) rise of the catholic empire. It is now the Time of the Gentiles (non-Israelites). Russia, China and this HRE will blockade USUK from world trade, payment for their many sins.
All I can say is that the next seven months will have us all mouth agaping due to these sudden changes.
Posted by: Arcticman | May 10 2023 3:42 utc | 148
True multipolarity will not properly emerge until EVERY AMERICAN realises it has no innate right to rule the world. Maybe then, a Congress will exist which plays respectfully, harmoniously with others on the field.
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 10 2023 1:29 utc | 127
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That is absurd. The clear majority of American masses are either disenfranchised or opposed to participating in such a utterly dysfunctional bought paid for political process.
Posted by: John2007 | May 10 2023 3:53 utc | 149
Biden will have strokes soon.
Tucker Carlson is back in Twitter
@TuckerCarlson
We’re back.
1:42 PM · May 9, 2023 ·
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https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1656037032538390530?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Posted by: KitaySupporter | May 10 2023 3:54 utc | 150
I think it is right to end tonight (this morning) with a prayer for Gonzalo Lira who I hope is physically and psychology unharmed and will be back with us soon. Have Faith and have Courage Gonzalo, you are not forgetten.
Posted by: Jo Dominich | May 10 2023 3:56 utc | 151
⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 9 May 2023⚡️
🔹#Russia’s Border Areas:
▪️ In #Belgorod region, Air Defence crews intercepted an air target in the town of #Grayvoron. According to preliminary reports, there were no casualties or damage.
➖ Ukrainian formations shelled the village of #Spodaryushino, several residential buildings were damaged, no casualties among civilians.
➖ In Shebekino, artillery shells damaged eight residential buildings and several cars, no civilians were injured.
🔹#Starobelsk (#Svatovo) Direction:
▪️ In the #Kupyansk sector, the situation has not changed significantly. Artillery duels continue along the line of contact.
➖ To strengthen the defensive positions, the Ukrainian command moved additional forces to #Dvurechnaya.
▪️ In the #Liman sector, both sides are fighting positional battles in the Serebryanskoye forestry and near Balka Zhuravka. Russian units are striking at the enemy’s strongholds.
🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction:
▪️ On the outskirts of #Bakhmut, Ukrainian formations continue to suffer heavy losses in equipment and manpower as they attempt to retreat from the town. The retreating Ukrainian army units are subjected to point artillery strikes.
▪️ Heavy fighting continues for control of Liberators of Donbass Street, which is the last stronghold of the AFU on the western outskirts of the city.
▪️ The enemy fired four HIMARS rockets at the detention center of Ukrainian POWs. According to preliminary data, none of the prisoners were killed, several people were injured.
▪️ The Associated Press France news agency reported the death of correspondent Arman Soldin near Chasov Yar as a result of shelling of AFU positions.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ Near #Novobakhmutovka, positional fighting continues west of the H-20 highway. The RF Armed Forces are cracking the defences of Ukrainian formations, preventing the transfer of reserves to the area with artillery fire.
▪️ The Ukrainian terrorists once again fired indiscriminately at populated areas of #Donetsk agglomeration. In #Ozeryanovka, a school building and several residential buildings were damaged, one person was wounded.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In #Melitopol district, the AFU terrorists shelled the village of #Plodorodnoye with HIMARS. One woman was killed and a girl was taken to hospital with wounds.
🔹#Kherson Direction on #SouthFront:
▪️ On the right bank of the #Dnieper River in #Kherson and its suburbs, Russian artillery struck enemy concentrations of personnel and equipment.
➖ In turn, the Ukrainian terrorist formations shelled civilian infrastructure and residential buildings in #Kakhovka and #Vasylyevka.
➖ As a result of the massive strike on Novaya Kakhovka, several transformers were damaged and the city was de-energized.
🔸Political and other Events:
▪️The #US announced another package of military assistance for Ukrainian formations in the amount of $ 1.2 billion, which included 155-mm shells, satellite reconnaissance and additional air defense batteries.
▪️ European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen arrived in #Kiev for a visit.
▪️ According to the Washington Post, the #UK is preparing to transfer Storm Shadow air-launched missiles capable of hitting targets at a range of up to 300 kilometres.
▪️ Amendments to Law No. 3048-IX have come into force, according to which banks now have the right to block the accounts of Ukrainians for non-payment of debts again. In total, more than one million bank accounts are at risk of being blocked.
▪️ Ukrainian Deputy Trade and Agriculture Minister Taras Kachka said that the government is ready to completely ban all imports from #Moldova in response to a ban on imports of Ukrainian grain by the Moldovan side.
Posted by: Down South | May 10 2023 3:59 utc | 152
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 10 2023 0:34 utc | 114
LOL. WHICH 3 km2 are we talking about though? Something important in any way? But yeah 3 km2, what a huge area. Almost a whole mile for each side of the square. It takes me about 7 minutes to run that far.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 10 2023 4:03 utc | 153
A long interviene with ukr military Intel head, theres a part like this:
-we’ve Killing xxxx in Land zzzz, and we’ll keep in Killing xxxx in every parte of the world-
It seems coming up from the past…
https://news.yahoo.com/we-will-keep-killing-russians-ukraines-military-intelligence
Posted by: Mry | May 10 2023 4:21 utc | 154
@Milites | May 9 2023 21:07 utc | 71
I wondered what a diving tug was, and pictured a mini-sub, but alas this is what is being considered; https://seacraft.eu/products/military-and-special/dual-scooter-platforms/
Underwater scooters at night?
Remember, they are trained by the British who have extensive experience in this sort of Underwater fight.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 10 2023 4:48 utc | 155
@Steven Starr | May 9 2023 23:39 utc | 106
thanks for the heads up on the latest from Popular Mechanics
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a43804177/russias-kinzhal-missile-is-not-hypersonic/
“Turns out, Russia’s kinzhal missiles aren’t really hypersonic . . .”
Popular Mechanics was also used to spread the idea that you can completely demolish 3 steel structure skyscrapers with 2 aluminium planes. Popular Pechanics is a propaganda rag.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 10 2023 5:05 utc | 156
Annalena Baerbocks comments to China (if you are neutral you are on Russia’s side) must be the most laughable piece of German egotism ever. Basically the mouse is threatening the dragon. Good luck there.
Posted by: Nick J | May 10 2023 5:10 utc | 157
@uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 1:11 utc | 122
The account is debatable.
Accounts that invite debate are more sincere than those that don’t.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 10 2023 5:11 utc | 158
Re: Gradual or Sudden De-Dollarization Collapse ?
Both arguments (gradual or sudden) have merits. My only insight is this:
a indicator for de-dollarization will be the cost of interest that Washington needs to pay money lenders. Watch Treasury interest rates and their direction. If Treasury 30 year slowly rises to 6%, then De-dollarization is happening PDQ. If the 30 year exceeds 7%, then collapse of the Federal Budget is going to be shockingly fast
Note, that the junior partners of the War Party; namely Japan and Europe are going to remain chained to the dollar. That’s a big percentage of money lenders to Washington.
Posted by: Exile | May 10 2023 5:12 utc | 159
A financial guy writes a oft amusing commentary on the topics. His free articles are a good insight into what many on Wall Street Are quietly thinking :
https://bonnerprivateresearch.substack.com/
Posted by: Exile | May 10 2023 5:17 utc | 160
I went to the Rybar TG channel after reading the post by debsisdead on drones. Reading other post at the Rybar channel, Ukie artillery seems to have suddenly picked up a lot and few things that make me wonder if the US now intends its proxy offensive in the north, perhaps try and capyure a few Russian villages as a propaganda win.
yandex translation of the report.
https://t.me/s/rybar
“🇺🇦🇷🇺❗️ I would like to say a separate word of gratitude to the duty forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and law enforcement agencies. All those who ensured the security of our country on this day. To date, more than 25 drones have been shot down and landed. About 30 more drone takeoff attempts…
✈️🇺🇦🇷🇺❗️ In Lefortovo, Moscow, another drone was shot down near the Burdenko military hospital.
In total, over a hundred drones were shot down/suppressed by this hour during the day. Most of the work was done by the electronic warfare forces.
The enemy continues to try to break through the state border and reach the central regions.
🇺🇦🇷🇺❗️ I would like to say a separate word of gratitude to the duty forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and law enforcement agencies. All those who ensured the security of our country on this day. To date, more than 25 drones have been shot down and landed. About 30 more drone takeoff attempts…
✈️🇺🇦🇷🇺❗️ In Lefortovo, Moscow, another drone was shot down near the Burdenko military hospital.
In total, over a hundred drones were shot down/suppressed by this hour during the day. Most of the work was done by the electronic warfare forces.
The enemy continues to try to break through the state border and reach the central regions.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 5:53 utc | 161
Biswapriya Purkayast | May 10 2023 0:34 utc | 114 “Ukranazistan has recaptured 3 square km of Artëmovsk both according to Prigozhin and the nazis.”
You put up no link to that. In fact you are posting, to kindest terminology fiction.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 6:45 utc | 162
Everyone must understand that the direction of the counteroffensive will be chosen not by the military, but by the politicians of the Office of the President.
The final plans for the counteroffensive of the Ukrainian military have not yet been approved by Zelensky.
This was stated by NSDC Secretary Alexei Danilov, Radio Liberty reports.
According to him, we are talking, in particular, about the timing and directions of promotion.
“When someone starts talking about something, even from respected institutions in the West, believe me: there are no people who know exactly all our plans today. Because the final plans have not yet been approved,” he added.
Currently, several options for a counteroffensive are being worked out at once. Danilov also added that there was no need to “wait or not wait.”
https://t.me/rezident_ua/17687
Posted by: Down South | May 10 2023 6:57 utc | 163
🇬🇧⚔️🇺🇸The US does not understand how the Russian army suppresses HIMARS missiles in Ukraine – Military Watch Magazine
The US military is aware that Russian air defense systems are increasingly shooting down HIMARS MLRS projectiles delivered to Kyiv. “It remains unclear how the Russian army managed to reduce the effectiveness of these systems so much,” the article says.
The publication also writes that in a global war, HIMARS will become even more vulnerable, because. all American satellites coordinating launches will be shot down.
Posted by: Down South | May 10 2023 6:58 utc | 164
That is absurd. The clear majority of American masses are either disenfranchised or opposed to participating in such a utterly dysfunctional bought paid for political process.
Posted by: John2007 | May 10 2023 3:53 utc | 148
Lol. It is you who is truly absurd, patently refusing to accept the sum total of your national politic.
Is political “disenfranchisement”, and opposition to “participating” in your Golden American Democracy imposed upon ~50% of you Americans? … in your voluntary voting system? …with its crooked gerrymanders and corrupt electoral colleges and billionaire Presidents? You (personally and collectively) are still not taking responsibility and ownership for the American government YOU DESERVE TO HAVE.
You sound like a complete snob “I vote, but everyone else who doesn’t vote could but won’t save the system”. Ha! THEY ARE an integral PART of the system — ignorant and uncaring about the crimes of their leaders. It’s worse than denial. It’s abject ignorance ABOUT DEMOCRACY. 130 million couldn’t give a shit. They demonstrate in the streets but won’t even walk to a fucking voting booth once every 4 years to put a cross with a pencil. THAT’S The Great American Supremist Apathy for you. That’s the sum total of your democracy — We’re the Greatest, someone else will keep us top dog.
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 10 2023 7:00 utc | 165
Annalena Baerbocks comments to China (if you are neutral you are on Russia’s side) must be the most laughable piece of German egotism ever. Basically the mouse is threatening the dragon. Good luck there.
Posted by: Nick J | May 10 2023 5:10 utc | 156
Last year Germany flew fighter jets for the first time in Asia, “for training”. China acted like “please please Mr. BASF, move your factories here. We have cheapest workers, you triple your profits. Maybe then you won’t want to bomb us”. I read that Italy plans to quit BRI project with China this year. Can’t exactly see which one is a mouse
Posted by: rk | May 10 2023 7:01 utc | 166
The State Department has developed an artificial intelligence aggregator that can detect disinformation attributed to Russia on the Internet. This was announced by US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, speaking at an event of the Washington non-governmental organization Freedom House.
US authorities are “working to address the massive problem of disinformation on the Internet,” Blinken said. He claimed that there is an ongoing stream of disinformation from “Russia” about a special military operation in Ukraine. At the same time, the US Secretary of State did not provide evidence that Russia allegedly distributes falsified texts.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/45268
Posted by: Down South | May 10 2023 7:02 utc | 167
Tom_Q_Collins | May 10 2023 4:03 utc | 152
Some way to the south of Bakhmut, Russian forces in a small section pulled back the a canal or water channel that is a natural defense line.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1V8NzjQkzMOhpuLhkktbiKgodOQ27X6IV&ll=48.52793361522355%2C37.89605790652536&z=14
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 7:04 utc | 168
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 6:45 utc | 161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBWGSIQd-Co&t=73s
Posted by: Membrum Virile | May 10 2023 7:06 utc | 169
Down South | May 10 2023 7:02 utc | 166 “The State Department has developed an artificial intelligence aggregator that can detect disinformation attributed to Russia on the Internet.”
1984 on steroids.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 7:07 utc | 170
Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 6:45 utc | 161
That was the msm story from natostan early this morning. Most natostan msm news come from uk sources, much less from us
Posted by: rk | May 10 2023 7:08 utc | 171
Posted by: Norwegian | May 10 2023 4:48 utc | 154
Yeah, I saw that! Huh? 5000 scooters purchased,!?!. 5000 divers with tanks, underwater scooters? Daft. A few timed torpedos or FAB-2000 into the river nearby would concuss them all. They make bubbles too. Talk about giving your position away! And 5000 soldiers peeling off wetsuits, change into dry boots and clothes, dry out their guns before storming the beaches!!!!. Lmao. A farcical plan … if even true.
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 10 2023 7:13 utc | 172
The Office of the President is trying to the maximum, under any conditions, to sell state property in the east of the country to large investors (BlackRock, BlackStone, Vanguard) in order to interest them in lobbying for financing of Ukraine from the West.
The scheme was well tested on the “grain deal” and now should help attract international corporations, which will then help lobby for the supply of modern weapons.
The Ministry of Economy of Ukraine signed an agreement with BlackRock Financial Market Advisory on the provision of services to support the Development Fund of Ukraine.
The main purpose of the foundation is to attract private and public capital for the implementation of large-scale business projects in Ukraine.
As Zelensky said during the meeting, since independence, truly large and strategic private capital has not come to Ukraine in volumes that would correspond to the scale and capabilities of the country.
According to him, for the transparency and success of the project, Ukraine attracts the best financial and consulting organizations in the world: BlackRock, JP Morgan, McKinsey.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/17688
Posted by: Down South | May 10 2023 7:15 utc | 173
Posted by: whirlX | May 9 2023 20:01 utc | 44
You’d think it wouldn’t be too difficult for Russian EW expert to fit out a cargo plane or two with directional jamming equipment and blinding lasers to counter NATO air surveillance assets. They wouldn’t be any use in a real fight but neither would NATO’s birds and they would fit the current pushing and shoving. Just run jammers in rotation while gradually turning up the power.
On the other hand, what do I know. I thought that RF should have simply nuked USS Kearsarge in the immediate aftermath of the Nord Stream attacks, SLBM would have sent the appropriate message.
Posted by: anon2020 | May 10 2023 7:20 utc | 174
@PeterAu
Weeb Union:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX1FmdP2PUM
>… Ukraine Capitalizes On Russian Weakness In The Bakhmut Front | Bakhmut Front Update 10/05/23
@1m:30 he has a map of the sliver AFU took.
I doubt they’ll hold it long.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 10 2023 7:21 utc | 175
sell state property in the east of the country to large investors
@ Down South | May 10 2023 7:15 utc | 172
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Eastern Ukraine futures are hotter than the Golan Heights.
Posted by: too scents | May 10 2023 7:23 utc | 176
The next front in US Chaos is in Pakistan. Arresting Imran Khan to prevent him standing in the election is invitation to civil war which will spread to streets of London and Northern England.
With > 213 million population this is much bigger than the Ukraine Front……..it affects Afghanistan and India and China and UK………and Uk has an election in 2024 with Sunak’s Party courting Indians and Labour courting Muslims……..and Liz Truss headed to Taipei to make inflammatory remarks
Washington seems hell-bent on End of Time Extinction Events
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 10 2023 7:26 utc | 177
“It remains unclear how the Russian army managed to reduce the effectiveness of these systems so much,”
It’s simple. The systems have now come under the control of AI, AI designed mostly by young American men. Inevitably they inherited the predilections of their designers, and so the Russians set an AI honey-trap for them.
Poor fellows, they didn’t stand much of a chance after they ran into this Russian designed beauty.
(Image is safe for work, lol)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ea/1a/93/ea1a934222ee624b5255394bf4d379a8.jpg
https://andromeda.fandom.com/wiki/Andromeda_Ascendant
Posted by: Babel-17 | May 10 2023 7:39 utc | 178
Melaleuca | May 10 2023 7:21 utc | 174
Realy doesn’t matter how long they hold a couple of fields for. It has been obvious Russian strategy is to keep destroying the Anglo proxies till they stop coming rather than take ground. It’s a bit annoying though when trolls come on and spout Ukroid bullshit.
Prigozhin has said nothing about the military giving up that little bit of ground for a better defensive position. So that was a straight out lie by the troll. Wagner is still on their slow creep forward in Bakhmut, so saying the Ukroids had taken ground in Bakhmut was a lie by the troll.
Prigozhin is fucking with peoples minds and that is likely his intention. An interesting character with some of his statements. Trolling the west’s and their proxies – he obviously does that. A little bit of Strelkov? perhaps. A way for Putin to bypass mid level bureaucracy in Russia? Likely as Putin has often criticized regional bureaucracy in the past.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 7:42 utc | 179
Re: Blackrock et.al. Investing in Eastern Ukraine –
This is undoubtedly going to be some scheme whereby Blackrock puts up 5% of the purchase price, some US/EU taxpayer funded entity ‘lends’ the other 95%. Result ?
Billions in Kickbacks, consulting fees, and vigorish flow into the hands of insiders. Rinse, Repeat.
Posted by: Exile | May 10 2023 7:43 utc | 180
Paul Greenwood | May 10 2023 7:26 utc | 176
Interesting how events in Pakistan can affect little India.
Truss? She is geographical challenged. I assume she will have a guide otherwise she may end up in Beijing telling them to declare Independence from China.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 7:47 utc | 181
From Zaluzhny they continue to form a person – deeds. Against the background of Zelensky, who is a man – a word (populist), speaks a lot, but already many are “set on edge”.
Zelensky, on the contrary, is looking for PR everywhere, but Zaluzhny is not (well, such PR people create an image for him).
This is against the background of unpredictable events and the results of the upcoming offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Zaluzhny continues to be prepared as an alternative to Zelensky.
So it became known that Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny refused to participate in the meeting of the NATO Military Committee because of the “tense operational situation” at the front.
“I received a letter from the Ukrainian commander yesterday – due to the tense operational situation on the battlefield, he will not be able to take part even in the videoconference format,” – committee head Rob Bauer.
Posted by: Down South | May 10 2023 8:09 utc | 182
” Arresting Imran Khan to prevent him standing in the election is invitation to civil war which will spread to streets of London and Northern England.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 10 2023 7:26 utc | 176 ”
Which provides another, obvious argument against allowing millions of foreigners into a nation.
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 10 2023 8:09 utc | 183
Any push back were seeing from the west looks like it’s born out of desperation.
Desperation to come up with media optics.
That’s no way to run a conflict. Credabilty runs out slowly but surely.
The English population lied to, assume the west is more powerfull. And are grudgingly going along for the ride.
But I’m here and I can say every one knows their being lied to 24/7 they just don’t know the truth about Ukraine/Russia, and really they dont care.
Big mistake in my opinion.
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plus the so called EU solidarity against Russia in my opinion is as above…. a media lie.
And I mean public and politians.
America is standing on quick sand politically one wrong move…. their going under.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 10 2023 8:13 utc | 184
Norwegian #5:11 utc | 157
Thank you. Yes indeed a report that fosters debate is a mighty valuable thing. So much reporting is bland propaganda and never invites a contrary consideration. Often today in fact sets out to cancel contrary thinkers.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 8:15 utc | 185
” You sound like a complete snob “I vote, but everyone else who doesn’t vote could but won’t save the system”. Ha! THEY ARE an integral PART of the system — ignorant and uncaring about the crimes of their leaders. It’s worse than denial. It’s abject ignorance ABOUT DEMOCRACY.
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 10 2023 7:00 utc | 164 ”
” If voting changed anything, they’d abolish it ”
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 10 2023 8:19 utc | 186
” Note, that the junior partners of the War Party; namely Japan and Europe are going to remain chained to the dollar. That’s a big percentage of money lenders to Washington.
Posted by: Exile | May 10 2023 5:12 utc | 158 ”
Most US debt is actually held by its own people and US governmental agencies, not foreign countries. The government will have no problem screwing its population over ” for the greater good “.
Its a giant financial, ponzi scheme, circle jerk.
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 10 2023 8:29 utc | 187
Residents of the city of Kiev were woken up by animal screams and small explosions last night. Sometimes panic broke out.
The mayor of the city, Dr. Iron Fist, tried to calm the residents in the morning and made the following statement:
A British citizen had arrived in the capital on an impromptu visit last night. Sexual debauchery erupted when the Brit met comedian Z. Elendsky at H Bar on Tarasa Shevchenko Boulevard, 30. After binge drinking and drugs, Briton Alex insisted on being whipped by naked comedian Z. Elendsky on the roof of the Kiev Hilton. At the same time, the sadistic dominatrix Vandie Lyer, alias Rose Ladson, also heavily intoxicated and a German citizen, penetrated the two men at the same time with various household items and tropical fruits that she had brought from Brussels. The lady was wearing a Wehrmacht uniform and shouted, “I’m YOUR angel of death.” Comedian Z. Elendsky laughed out loud and Alex screamed and groaned: Come on, I want to feel these European values on my bare skin. Yes, that’s really very cool. The words “European values” in turn triggered violent orgasms in Vandie Lyer aka Rose Ladson, which evaporated like light detonations in the night …
This overall situation, which got slightly out of control, unfortunately led to a very loud noise development in the vicinity of the luxury hotel.
Dr Iron Fist begs the people of the capital for leniency. Foreign guests have been asked to keep windows closed and refrain from any outdoor activities at the next Europe Day celebrations in Kiev. Also in the self-interest of the three people.
At the same time, the mayor regretted not having received a personal invitation to this celebration, but also emphasized that serious talks had also taken place.
By the way, all three participants left Kiev again in the morning.
Posted by: Don Alphonso | May 10 2023 8:33 utc | 188
Paul Greenwood #7:26 utc | 176
The next front in US Chaos is in Pakistan. Arresting Imran Khan to prevent him standing in the election is invitation to civil war which will spread to streets of London and Northern England.
With > 213 million population this is much bigger than the Ukraine Front……..it affects Afghanistan and India and China and UK………and Uk has an election in 2024 with Sunak’s Party courting Indians and Labour courting Muslims……..and Liz Truss headed to Taipei to make inflammatory remarks
Washington seems hell-bent on End of Time Extinction Events
I imagine that there are a large number of anti government groups with considerable arms stored for the day of need. They likely have a comprehensive rolodex of ISI demons to have a go at. Regardless of old disputes and tensions, I guess India will be displeased that the USA is triggering colour revolutions and extreme tensions next door in both Pakistan and China.
I did appreciate your link to the UK elections and smiled at the thought of Pandora’s box being opened by an englander fantasising about his prowess at the Great Game. Mongolia next just to frustrate the China’s space program?
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 8:39 utc | 189
Don Alphonso | May 10 2023 8:33 utc | 187
If you need a little extra booze money I’m sure you could sell that standout piece to The Onion.
Perhaps Benny Hill in bygone years.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 8:41 utc | 190
Don Alphonso #8:33 utc | 187
Don, give up the absinthe cocktails with opium chasers – bad for the heart mate.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 8:42 utc | 191
he will not be able to take part even in the videoconference format,” – committee head Rob Bauer
Posted by: Down South | May 10 2023 8:09 utc | 181
Why say it in public? It’s just a few minutes of an online chat with his masters, not a two week trip to US. Even if the online chat takes place in Poland, he can still be back in the same day. It looks more like Zaluzhny was excluded and they wanted this to be public info.
Posted by: rk | May 10 2023 8:46 utc | 192
Deplorable Commissar | May 10 2023 8:29 utc | 186
Thanks for posting that link to a very clear presentation of the topic of Federal debt and it’s creditors. The challenge in assessing the impact of de-dollarization on Interest Rates on Federal Debt is namely, interest rates are set by the marginal lender
Translation : it’s the foreign lenders who determine what risk premium (aka interest rate) the Feds need to pay. When the risk premium goes up, interest rates go up.
Note: a unknown percentage of ‘public’ holdings of Treasuires are in fact foreigners using US bank domiciled bank accounts. These are also subject to de-dollarization.
Agreed , to a large extent the Federal Budget is a Ponzi scheme. As a practical matter: the most likely short term response to de-dollarization is the Federal Gov’t trying to manage the process by a combination of 1) Inflation (money printing) 2) Increased Taxation and 3) manipulating social security, etc. benefits
Impoverishing the citizenry does have its limitations as a strategy LOL
Posted by: Exile | May 10 2023 8:52 utc | 193
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 8:39 utc | 188
Mongolia? Geography is a bitch, all the Central Asia stans were at the Victory day parade, and they are not as geography protected as Mongolia, Pakistan is there.
Posted by: Paco | May 10 2023 8:53 utc | 194
uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 8:42 utc | 190 “Don, give up the absinthe cocktails with opium chasers”
Probably takes that write satire when satire is the political norm. Current western governments have put Monty Python out of business.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 8:57 utc | 195
“Ukraine 2030 — the freest and most digital country in the world. Without bureaucracy, but with strong tech industry. Cashless & paperless. This is the future we are building.”
– Mykhailo Fedorov
“These were the words of Ukraine’s Minister of Digital Transformation Mykhailo Fedorov, who posted a glossy video showcasing Ukraine’s sci-fi-esque future to Twitter. The video boasts of Ukraine’s plans (after its victory over Russia, of course!) to become the “freest and most convenient country in the next 10 years.”
To jumpstart its technological revolution, Ukraine’s established a Ministry of Digital Transformation. Preceded by the State Agency for E-governance in Ukraine, the Ministry of Digital Transformation’s chief mission, as of 2019, is to establish a “state in a smartphone” apparatus — the Diia (Дія) app — and transfer all public services online. The Ministry’s other key goals include increasing Ukrainians’ digital literacy, internet access, and IT’s share of Ukraine’s GDP by 2024.
A perfect marriage of the latest in tech with the state, the Ministry’s flagship Diia app is perhaps the Fourth Industrial Revolution’s most obvious manifestation in Ukraine. Unveiled in late 2019 as the Ministry for Digital Transformation’s “state in a smartphone” project, the Diia app is now a “one-stop-shop” for 120 digital government services such as business registrations, applying for government benefits, paying taxes, and obtaining documents like digital ID, digital driver’s licenses, and digital biometric passports which, as of 2021, are all recognized in the same legal capacity as their paper equivalents. “Diia” means “action” in English.
Within two days of Diia’s 2020 official launch, 360,000 Ukrainians had downloaded digital driver’s licenses using the app, which the Atlantic Council posited as reflecting the “huge appetite for digitalization within Ukrainian society, especially among younger Ukrainians.” About 18.5 million people, approximately half of Ukraine’s pre-war population, now use the app as of early 2023.
Diia may be state of the art, but its hyper-centralized, “one-stop-shop” model concocts a bevy of ethical concerns. Such widespread use of Digital ID and other digital legal documents through Diia, for example, should raise alarm bells. For instance, a 2018 WEF report on Digital ID even admits the tool’s propensity for exclusion, positing that “[f]or individuals, [verifiable IDs] open up (or close off) the digital world, with its jobs, political activities, education, financial services, healthcare and more.” Despite this consequential acknowledgement, the report’s writers and other advocates ultimately insist that Digital ID is a key tool for “financial and social inclusion” in an increasingly digital world (of course, on the precondition that a Digital ID would be given to everyone.)
Critically, Diia’s normalization of the Digital ID and the online availability of other government and social services has only sped up the process of mass digital identification, and thus the multitude of privacy- and freedom-related issues this is likely to pose to the populace, both in Ukraine and internationally. Despite ongoing concerns that digital ID could facilitate a “papers, please”-style checkpoint society (a la 2021-2022’s vaccine passport phenomenon, which was largely conducted through QR-code based passports and smartphone applications) or otherwise used or weaponized to discriminate against marginalized populations. Juniper Research estimates that governments will have issued about 5 billion digital ID credentials by 2024, and a 2019 Goode Intelligence report suggested digital identity and verification will be a $15 billion market by 2024.
I guess if the USA can test agent orange in Vietnam, torture in Iraq, Nation state plunder in Libya, pipeline explosions in the Baltic Sea, then why not test the great reset in Ukraine?
In a year or three the place won’t exist other than on one of those perfectly secure apps that are absolutely unhackable for sure.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 8:59 utc | 196
Paco #8:53 utc | 193
Agreed brother, I was just being hyperbolic and a tad -ve. But I do worry sometimes that the USA is about to find itself entirely eclipsed when the China lunar orbital station is parked in place and then a Russian module clicks into its docking point 😉
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 10 2023 9:04 utc | 197
@35. Of course it’s a declaration of war, but what do you want? A nuclear exchange? Complete destruction of all of Europe from Bath to the Urals? Do you really think Putin and Xi don’t know what’s going on? Stop being a fuckwit.
” Texas shooter “his personal politics were very hard to figure out”
Texas police have just confirmed that the shooter had Nazi tattoos.
I wonder what country inspired that?
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 9 2023 23:57 utc | 108 ”
You should do more research before posting. Please explain how a Latino / Hispanic who mainly shot Whites and Asians is a ” White Supremacist Nazi ” ? The establishment is obviously covering its tracks to protect a narrative.
Logic, its not just for breakfast.
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Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 10 2023 9:07 utc | 199
“Ukraine’s sci-fi-esque future”
Clinging to American aircraft undercarriage, perhaps a big brawl on and embassy roof to get a seat on a helicopter.
Medvedev I assume voices Russian thoughts. I assume if the so called west does not pull its head in, the Russian federation flag will one day be hoisted on the Buckingham Reichstag. The seat of Anglo exceptionalism.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 10 2023 9:13 utc | 200