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May 7, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-109

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

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Progozhin’s meltdown was staged, but for a different reason than anyone has speculated. His army had taken a sizable hit and he needed to transfer the blame off of his own shoulders. Any time we see rage of that sort, it should be realized that it’s for stagecraft effects.
Even if you aren’t neutral, it pays to try to think neutral

Posted by: Up North | May 7 2023 20:58 utc | 101

❗️ There were several hits in the Odessa region and in Odessa itself. The infrastructure facility is on fire.
❗️ Zatoka and Sergeevka mass arrivals at the coastal facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (there are camps for recruits and training grounds).
❗️Nikolaev region arrival from kamikaze UAV. Threat in the north of Ukraine and Kyiv.
https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/30081
“Mykolaiv region strong arrival. Perhaps in an ammunition depot or fuel depots.”
“⚡️Missile strikes in Odessa are carried out on the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the railway along which heavy equipment and German Leopard tanks were previously transferred. Powerful explosions in the center of Odessa.”
“The strike on Odessa is apparently aimed at disrupting logistics and the airfield was also struck. Unconfirmed.”
“‼️🇷🇺2 waves of missiles are flying towards Ukraine: Strategic aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces has reached the launch line
This is reported by the Ukrainian authorities.
The country is covered by an air raid”.
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/29968

Posted by: unimperator | May 7 2023 20:59 utc | 102

Posted by: Dacian | May 7 2023 16:57 utc | 34
The article you linked with “Fake Moon Landing” in the title doesn’t mention anything about landing on the moon. What is the point of that title?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2023 20:59 utc | 103

Posted by: unimperator | May 7 2023 20:59 utc | 103
Leopards go boom? The Ukrainians might still be smart enough to put them all in a few warehouses.

Posted by: unimperator | May 7 2023 21:00 utc | 104

Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 7 2023 20:48 utc | 98

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 7 2023 21:02 utc | 105

Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 7 2023 20:48 utc | 98

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 7 2023 21:02 utc | 106

Questions about Wagner casualties in Bakhmut were asked yesterday
As it happens, the subject arose after hours at After Shock (always a source of entertaining threads). I gather, every one there concedes, since MoD has not properaly reported casualties since Feb 2022 body count estimation is futile. The discussion turned on events which have not occurred, namely future Wagner casualites in the event MoD refuses any more ammo. HOWEVER, Prigozhin responses to semi-pro interrogatory turned up to confirm AS assumptions: his mission, MoD patrons, and rationale for retreat (“rotation”) 10 May.
Evgeny Prigozhin’s answers to the main questions that society has.

Posted by: sln2002 | May 7 2023 21:03 utc | 107

Prigozhin and Kadirov are powerful Warlords and as always there is a certain amount of rivalry, competition and/or jealousy between such charismatic figures. As long as they don’t start fighting each other (like in some other war torn countries) things should remain at a theatrics level….

Posted by: Adam Troy | May 7 2023 21:04 utc | 108

@42, Perimetr, man, things must be pretty bad in Europe for someone to solicit porn here.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | May 7 2023 17:56 utc | 53
Prostitution/Porn are everywhere. But in a country where young men are killed while old men talk, many women become desperate. Ukraine’s leaders foolishly, foolishly bought the American Huckster tale. “We are with you, we will be along your side to the Gates of Hell.” Then, at the last minute, we will push you through the Gates and walk away.

Posted by: kupkee | May 7 2023 21:05 utc | 109

Tom_Q_Collins @ 96
You’re confused because you’re a jackass who posts knee-jerk reactions to emotives without reading first.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 7 2023 21:06 utc | 110

Aaagh! This keeps happening, the MoA software loses my username, my email and then the body of my comment and then it still decides to make a post.
Oh well,bollocks to it all (if this goes through!!!).

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 7 2023 21:06 utc | 111

Posted by: Dacian | May 7 2023 17:31 utc | 45
Enjoyed several of the articles on the agora. Com blog. Thxs.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 7 2023 21:15 utc | 112

Fake: The Armed Forces of Ukraine Shot Down The Russian Hypersonic Missile “Kinzhal”
The Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down a Russian hypersonic missile “Kinzhal”. A photo of its wreckage is published by Ukrainian Telegram channels with reference to military analysts.
What is really going on?
No one hit the hypersonic “Kinzhal”. Ukrainian military experts are trying to pass off the image of a water pipe as missile wreckage.
The Ukrainian army has no technical capability to shoot down such a missile. The American Patriot and any other Western-made air defense systems they use are not designed to intercept hypersonic aerodynamic targets. The only system in the world that has such a capability is the Russian S-500 Prometey air defense system.

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 7 2023 21:16 utc | 113

@ Taras 77 | May 7 2023 17:53 utc | 52
“..the assessments of the threat that Kiev posed to the leadership of our country.”
Those assessments must be made clear, precise, and public for all to know and understand. Also, we must know what the doctor prescribed against those.
Ukraine is stealing RF’s role in “denazification” of Europe’s WWII by being and behaving right out of the book on how to set up the Nazi state. It is on the offensive, eradicating everything Russian out of Ukraine, probably the only one they can put up.
Current Ukrainian set up will not give up on going after Russian soft targets as journalists, intellectuals, and prominent people supporting SMO including those who run current tackle.
Ukrainians will try to terrorize in depth regions that belong to the new Russia and to the old Russia. Those will never be peaceful areas.
So length around 1200 km and 10-30 km in depth is endangered. That is a huge surface area.
Also, it is very expensive to protect and very difficult to have any sort of development or bettering for the population living there.
So, to counter this RF must delete such attitudes which is really hard since Soviet Union couldn’t neuter OUN and Banderists. But what USSR (CCCP) did is they at least managed to contain it to a small Western region, to where it questionably belongs.
So to pacify the region and protect its own ‘Russian sphere’, RF now and onwards must understand that it has to reverse this ‘offensive against everything Russian’.
This ‘terrorist offensive’ from MH-17, Kerch Bridge to Tatarsky and Dugina and so forth is, as we all know, supported and planned by the known and clearly named and people and agencies – and those need to be pacified.
Some people can see no other way than to reconquer Ukraine up to where the ‘Russian sphere’ reaches. For that it is better to be tough, hard and take a deep breath and do it once then to wiggle with all kind of excuses and reluctant attempts to fully commit.
There must be a reason why RF is seen being as such.
To militarily liberate this ‘Russian sphere’, RF would need to mobilize probably another 300,000+ of its manpower, spend a mountain of money, and vast amounts of technical and human potential without any guarantees of a long term success.
That is not rational at all and would play along the Western narrative.
I think that RF should blow few such Western points and claim that is not seeking the conflict with the West. That is exactly what the West is doing via Ukraine.
The rationale behind that is that if a few decision-making centres outside of Ukraine are taken out, those efforts would be a clearest message to Ukraine RF can send.
Those kinetic actions can trigger changes as in Ukraine so as in the West. It can be a start of getting rid of the current neo-Nazi order that flourishes there under the auspices of Sneaky Weak West, as it should be seen.
For everyone to see, the very West is made helpless in front of Ukrainian expectations of the might and omni power of the imaginary West.
RF has long arms and an elephant’s memory, and showing that it can indeed delete such planning, plotting and terror supporting centres might cut Ukrainian ideas of a prolonged conflict very quickly.
What would that really do to the West?
Probably the West would scream its lungs out, but so what?
In its current position – it is a way too weak to confront RF in any conventional shape or form. And they know it.
Except for going nuclear, but that is even questionable and the Western military probably renders such actions as not really enough to go nuke on the planet.
One never knows, but it might be well worth taking the risk.
To end the conflict in Ukraine, RF has to challenge the West in an open, straight manner.
Threaten twice, strike once. Ask for more? Strike again. No more. Ok. Now let us talk.
I do not see any other manner of getting it done, right now.

Posted by: whirlX | May 7 2023 21:17 utc | 114

The only chance that will give hope for continued financing/deliveries of weapons is a global tragedy/catastrophe on the territory of Ukraine, which can be organized even by “unknowns”, but blamed on the Russian Federation.
Posted by: Down South | May 7 2023 14:11 utc | 3
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Russia wants to destroy Western efforts and resources very slowly by showing them who is in charge.
Posted by: AI | May 7 2023 16:25 utc | 24
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Going with Occam’s Razor, it seems that the Russians would like to draw NATO closer to the Dniepr where they are easier to pick off at the end of their longer supply chain. Wagnerites may have staged the body count in their photo op with AFU demilitarized personnel. Most plausible to me, along with the psy ops tirade, ‘we are so weak and vulnerable.’
Bleeding NATO is a very viable strategy, as has been noted here, Paul Mascane (sp?). My best guess is that the Ukie/NATO forces will be stopped in their march on Crimea. At what cost, time will tell.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 7 2023 21:20 utc | 115

Regarding the Ukrainian “Offensive” coming up. With no other information other than reading every TG post I can find about the crazy amount of Jaw-jacking about said “offensive”, my wild speculation is that they will attack in the Uhgledar (sp?) direction, but will also try an amphib landing in Sevastopol to try to wipe out the bases there and the NATO air assets will come to help them. If they can land one of the “grain deal” ships in the harbor and sink it, it may block the Russian navy. They might even start with a nuclear false flag at ZNPP or even Energodar with their “dirty bomb” so as to set off the supposed radiation detectors installed by the USA a bit ago. Russia command and control would have multiple disasters to respond to all at once. Not saying it has a remote chance, Russia is very capable, but it would make for an interesting week, say in June, when the weather may be nicer. They need the media hype, it’s almost all they have been winning lately save a few terrorist bombings. All this mowing the lawn with 50-60 troops and a half dozen technicals getting shelled to oblivion all around the front are feints imo.
That looks pretty thin re-reading my brain droppings, but it would be my idea if allowed to “plan” the offensive of the AFU. Multiple avenues at once, push all the buttons at once, so to speak. I believe that the AFU has no other choice, if they lose, they lose all. If they gain Sevastopol, even for a day, that will probably enable the AFU to get even more Western help. If they merely plug a dozen holes and fart around like the Kherson “offensive” last summer/fall, the front will collapse by this winter imho, and then it all goes pear shaped and I think that is the most dangerous for a WW3 scenario.

Posted by: Fudup | May 7 2023 21:26 utc | 116

” apologies for the wild speculation, but I felt the subject should be broached.
Posted by: chet380 | May 7 2023 19:34 utc | 73 ”
Why are you apologizing ? This whole site is nothing but wild speculation.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 7 2023 21:26 utc | 117

re: kupkee | May 7 2023 21:05 utc | 109
I take it you did not read my post (see Perimetr | May 7 2023 19:20 utc | 71 ) stating that I did not make the post at 42, some scumbag used my MoA name.
Imitation may be the sincerest from of flattery, but these a**holes can piss off.

Posted by: Perimetr | May 7 2023 21:30 utc | 118

Posted by: Fudup | May 7 2023 21:26 utc | 116
I recall some report (one of those ukro insider channels) saying that the attacks on Crimea are once again designed by British “military experts”. They have designed the drone attacks on Crimea, which should primarily include airfields, probably fuel depots also. Now that Ukro/Nato air defense is in dire straits, they need to more than even to disable airfields to prevent Russian airpower during their offensive.
Well, they did try. Today the Russians claimed to shoot down or otherwise disable 22 strike drones over the sea heading toward Crimea. And today the airfield in Odessa was hit again, IIRC earlier they reported that it was used as the base for final assembling drones.
It’s possible we will see more underwater drone attacks on Sevastopol harbor, too. I think Nato is far more invested in this offensive than they admit publicly or most people realize. Hence they would throw every dirty trick in the bag you can imagine.

Posted by: unimperator | May 7 2023 21:36 utc | 119

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 7 2023 21:06 utc | 110
Tom_Q_Collins @ 96
That was not me – another troll poster assuming identities.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 7 2023 21:39 utc | 120

“True patriots would actually like to see their side win, whereas the controlled patriots just want the profits to keep rolling in. You will never see the fake patriots’ lives put on the line. Meanwhile, actual patriots in Russia are being assassinated left and right all under the watchful eye of the FSB.”
Oddly, the “international financiers” despise the patriots or nationalists in the US and Russia.
That’s why the other day one of those US patriots just got 14 years in prison for partaking in the 1/6 setup. However, the Capitol police officer who shot young ex-Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt in the neck and killed her during the same 1/6 event was protected by the security state.
In any event, I’ve been watching The Duran for years for an alternative view🫣 regarding Western imperialism. That being said, I started getting suspicious many months ago and posted a few comments in their YouTube comment section. To my dismay, they were all eliminated.
I noticed, how The Duran avoided discussing the Kremlin’s duplicity in the Scamdemic/jab bullshit which Whitney Webb has mentioned more than a year ago in articles on her Unlimited Hangout website, and on her podcasts.
“The Duran” are sinophiles this is not meant to be a warmongering remark. They’re overly excited about a multipolar paradise which actually strengthens China’s technocratic biosecurity surveillance state which international trillion dollar asset management firms are all-in on.
It’s all spelled out in the UN initiatives especially Agenda 2030.
China has been a Western social engineering project for over 100 years. A favorite of the Rockefeller’s.
And now that AI technology is almost “ready” the power-hungry are eager to deploy a worldwide central bank digital currency as a “key tool” for global governance, as well implementing several “benevolent sounding” UN initiatives which are further designed to eliminate nation-state sovereignty.
And that’s why, these international financiers and techno/fascists hate nationalists in Russia and the US.
To put it simply, nationalists are an impediment to their long awaited plans of establishing global governance.
Personally, I find it very difficult to believe that multinational corporations and multi-trillion dollar assest management firms with “trillions invested” in China are genuinely in an acrimonious relationship with the “socialists who have predatory capitalistic characteristics. ” And who I might add, love being extremely affluent members of the Chinese Communist Party.
That being said, they’re all in cahoots.
This is not to say, that brave foolish young soldiers like in the Ukrainian conflict won’t die in some manufactured skirmish designed as a collateral damage media event.
However, the greedy ghouls have no intention of making Russia, or America great again as their pocketbooks are open to Asia.
Long ago, Western financiers decided China was to be a “social engineered sweatshop” and Russia was a looting playground for energy and all its lovely natural resources.
By the way, the US is in the same boat, that’s why thousands of migrants on the southern border are running into the US each day looking like they’re running into a department store sale on Black Friday.
A “borderless world” is the mission as described in numerous UN initiatives managed under One World Governance, where “unelected unaccountable” billionaire gangsters work hand-in-glove with corrupt UN organizations and stooge appointees to set policy initiatives implemented throughout the planet ultimately creating a dystopian repressive shithole for billions while the techno/fascist billionaire dwell in their multipolar paradise.
Get it now!😁 ”

Posted by: Charlotte Ruse | May 7 2023 21:43 utc | 121

If people aren’t checking the TG channels today they should, Russia is hitting hard all along the front, and moving harder than ever in Artemovsk, plus this last week of Prigozhin hyper focus has seen consistent heavy missile strikes all over behind the AFU lines. Given months of talk of the big Ukrainian offensive either Russia is trying hard to bust that up or we are witnessing the softening up barrage before the big Russian offensive, something everyone seems to have written off. Whatever, there’s a notable uptick in energy on the RF side. I sense a movement in the Force.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 7 2023 21:44 utc | 122

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2023 20:37 utc | 96
63, 81, 84, and 120 are me (and this post). Anything else you see and anything you see today from here out is not. I’m done posting.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 7 2023 21:44 utc | 123

If the West had a competent drone program it would be scary. But even though it’s been obvious for a decade that unmanned vehicles are superior to manned ones..(quickly..provided secure commschannel Achilles heel, no pilot loss so the highly trained dudes don’t die and no G force problems amo st many others)..Maerica in her deep intelligence opted for the giant military industrial ‘scam the public’ turkey the F35.
Bravo take a bow Pentagon. So yeah I expect more amateurish drone attacks indeed, since they dont ha e anything else to fly. Maybe some semtex strapped to civve drones.
As noted earlier it’s all improvisation and tactics and desperation now from NATO. Strategic noose closed long ago. Nuclear? If they do it we are all fucked.
I wish I could be optimistic but those in charge of this shitshow from the West are deeply hubristic and cannot accept they are and were wrong and their strategy has utterly failed by any available metric. So..

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 7 2023 21:46 utc | 124

Perimetr, ok, sorry. I still stand by my statement though. “Uncle Ira isn’t Uncle Ira”. Kupke. Yeah, I know porn/prostitution is ubiquitous. I know someone who had a Ukrainian mail order bride.
Patriot downs a Kinzal? For real and true! And if they told you that wolverines make good housepets, would you believe them?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | May 7 2023 21:47 utc | 125

@unimperator | May 7 2023 21:36 utc | 119

I think Nato is far more invested in this offensive than they admit publicly or most people realize. Hence they would throw every dirty trick in the bag you can imagine.

NATO wants Russia to go nuclear.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 7 2023 21:48 utc | 126

Conquering a people and military with high esprit de corps is a recipe for disaster and guarantees a long insurgency.
Seems like the Russian MOs goal in addition to the military aspect is to degrade the populations support for the regime. Creating a siege mentality is the last thing Russia wants to do.
Keeping the front as far away as possible from European borders and increasing logistical supply lengths makes sense.
At some point the attrition conflict is going to take a toll and internal divisions within the society and military will take place.
The offensive may be a boon for the Russians as it will draw out and fix ever larger forces.
Seems like the aim isn’t military victory by conquering territory but degrading internal cohesion of Ukrainian society.

Posted by: Johnycomelately | May 7 2023 21:48 utc | 127

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 7 2023 21:06 utc | 110
Now I’m even more confused. Which of you is the handle thief? Awfully strange tactic to get more followers at your Substack if that’s really you, RSH. If it is, I suggest lithium. Might tamp down the “emotives” and resultant childish name calling.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2023 21:50 utc | 128

63, 81, 84, and 120 are me (and this post). Anything else you see and anything you see today from here out is not. I’m done posting.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 7 2023 21:44 utc | 123
Gotcha. And the asshole is even linking to your Substack too. We need a better system here.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2023 21:51 utc | 129

The good thing in this Patriot vs. Kinzhal debacle (categorically fake news) is that it may result in euronato buying and relying more on useless Patriot systems. Pretty much similar as the hyper super duper fifth gen F-35 “Flying turkey” program which has no parallels in the Milkyway galaxy. Whole Nato will now have to life with it well past 2050.

Posted by: unimperator | May 7 2023 22:13 utc | 130

@Petri Krohn | May 7 2023 21:48 utc | 126

NATO wants Russia to go nuclear.

Hope you’re wrong. I visited London once. Confusing layout, but back then very pleasant (and less stabby).
Also, I suspect Russia doesn’t need any nukes to start sinking carriers.

Posted by: Boris Badenov | May 7 2023 22:13 utc | 131

Unimperator, 119
Petri Krohn, 126
I also think that the West is very invested in the attack coming up, they pay billions of $$ and their reputations are on the line even with Western media to hide any mis steps, but they need a win, even a pyrrhic one. Russia should fly fighters in force when anything not Russian flies anywhere even close to Crimea over the Black Sea. Drone attacks controlled by NATO awacs from across the Black Sea or other treachery.
As far as a nuclear strike by Russia, if the West wants that, they are fools. None of the assumptions of Russias actions and/or capabilities has been correct yet, they would be bringing doom to their own. I think the West (British thugs or otherwise) wait to strike on their terms when they think Russia cannot respond effectively, which is also insane, but entirely believable of Western arrogance. The fixation on Crimea could be a huge weakness in their ultimate stategy, whatever it is.
Turkey is a big wildcard IMO, with elections coming up, that could create conditions for some other NATO trickery with the grain deal fiasco. I still think this “deal” will be used to attack Crimea.

Posted by: Fudup | May 7 2023 22:20 utc | 132

Posted by: Johnycomelately | May 7 2023 21:48 utc | 127
Thanks. You have put that elegantly and I agree.

Posted by: Cortes | May 7 2023 22:21 utc | 133

Why does NATO want Russia to go nuclear? I see that also, but why? Is that not dangerous, even for western elites?

Posted by: srbin | May 7 2023 22:29 utc | 134

There is a conflict between, at least, 2 systematic visions of the World:
1. The “hegemonic vision” pretends to conform the “reality” according the rules that have been prevailing during the last 80 years. One Law, One Belief, One World.
2. The “multipolar vision” does not pretend to conform the societies to a single set of values, because the “humanity” are not a Collective.
We are very different humans with our very different cultures and beliefs that must be respected until we’ll be able to engage in a common purpose.
Trying to destroy a living form is an error. A society is a living organism that perpetuate its fundamental ideas, even after the dead of the elites. That’s why it is trascendental that we let the possibility to “built a room” when the future humans can return to their senses and resolve their differences.
Every war result in negotiation. Notwithstanding the high words, althought the soldiers are dying everyday, even in the case of genocide, the States, the human communities, resolve their conflict, at the end, by diplomacy.
Trying to end the “Nazis” is an error. The same error that they commit when they are trying to genocide “Russians”. To end Nazism, you must make a nazi feel the consequences off to be a nazi. Until they experiment the suffering, no possibility to change this mad.
And the World goes around.

Posted by: Lalita | May 7 2023 22:29 utc | 135

Prigozhin has motivated the destruction of Chasov Yar it seems.

Something very terrible now in Chasov Yar”: “smart bombs” hit the back of the Bakhmut group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
Previously, we showed videos clearly showing that the Armed Forces of Ukraine filled the city of Chasov Yar with tanks and other armored vehicles hiding behind residential buildings.

And this:

Rybar writes:
Simultaneously with the defeat of reinforcements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the reserve defense lines, according to reports from open sources, the Russian Aerospace Forces processed enemy positions at Chasov Yar with FABs from the UMPC.
Given that Chasov Yar is located on a hill, artillery positions will also be deployed there, from which fire will be fired in the direction of the Wagner PMC offensive to the west of Bakhmut. At night, the “Orchestra” units went on another attack that could be decisive in the Battle of Bakhmut.

The cynic in me thinks this rear supply extinguishment might have been carried out a month or two ago and repeated every few days. The same Uke army destruction rate would likely have been achieved and the clearance of Artyomovsk would have proceeded at lower Russian lives lost.
Scott Ritter – Again observes:

“Odessa: a strike at Lighthouses, there is a road bridge across the Dniester.
If the strike on the railway bridge in Zatoka and the automobile bridge are successful then they are cut off from Romania.

So perhaps the western supply is finally being throttled down in the east.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 7 2023 22:32 utc | 136

I wonder how so much BS post can find their way her into the tread while I never see my responses and post, A reason why don’t post, just trying this one
And yepgetting the message with this „expired“ blabla

Posted by: Alfapanda | May 7 2023 22:35 utc | 137

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 7 2023 15:16 utc | 18

Wagner is an organ of the Russian State. Always has been.
Prigozin is merely “head of sales and marketing” in the corporate sense of the term …

This has always been my understanding, the group started in the Donbass 2014 as a plausibly deniable arm of RF mil intervention in the UA civil war led by ‘former’ Spetsnaz GRU officer ‘Wagner’ and remains led by ‘former’ Spetsnaz GRU officer … is Lotus still the military commander?
In that sense Wagner is a ‘private’ military arm of the RF Military Intelligence Directorate independent of the other military commands but completely integrated into Putin’s post-Soviet national security state.
And as far as I know, just like once you’re CIA you can never ‘leave’, no one is ever ‘former’ GRU.

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | May 7 2023 22:36 utc | 138

young #91

RESPONSE: When the West started to directly go after Putin in Moscow, something finally clicked within Putin that he had better get on with it. He is now awake and will cause the bear to start to arise from its state of sleep that it has been in for so long.

Yes, well, its a long time between second comings as history tells us.
The bear was woken in December 2021, the horse saddled and riding in February 2022. The message from Ghent may yet be delivered to Aix but for sure the horse will arrive fresher and more relaxed.
It takes a lot of popcorn this ride 😉

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 7 2023 22:40 utc | 139

People who get agitated by Prighozin’s theatrics (thanks Arch Bungle) are likely the same people who watch WWE and think it is real.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 7 2023 22:48 utc | 140

Posted by: young @ 91
The surge in RF activity has been long in the making, since last fall, and very methodical, it had nothing to do with the drones over the Kremlin.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 7 2023 23:01 utc | 141

@vec 101
Going from the the mere presence of something on the moon assuming humans placed it there is a huge leap. Anything up there could have been remotely placed. I’m a believer of Bart Sibrel and his interviews and evidence. There’s a lot that needs to be addressed about the Apollo missions. Maybe Medvedev will call out building 7 next.

Posted by: NJH | May 7 2023 23:09 utc | 142

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2023 20:59 utc | 104

I reposted the correct link at #45.
What is important about Rogozin’s revelation is not that Moon landing was a hoax. Anybody that had an interest in finding out the truth knows that.
The serious implications of Rogozin’s post is that he provides the smoking gun to those who always suspected a collusion beyond the superficial between the two Cold War adversaries. At the peak of the Cold War rhetoric, both sides were lying. Wink, wink among them, nuclear war threat for the hoi poloi to get them in line, to get them to be submissive.
Now, the consequences of that fact are tremendous. All the die-hard supporters of the Cold War theater along these many years, including the war in Ukraine are left . . . speechless.
Yes, the war in Ukraine is fake, as fake as the Moon landing, as fake as the 9/11 and as fake as the Corona virus.
Now, we can all go to sleep in peace.
. . . Except for the dead and the wounded and those left homeless. It is theater for us but is is a real tragedy for them.

Posted by: Dacian | May 7 2023 23:10 utc | 143

Things seem to blow up bigger with after explosions this last month, more accurate hits, more valuable targets, maybe just more and bigger piles of western munitions, a more target rich environment? Maybe the new satellites the RF launched couple months back?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 7 2023 23:13 utc | 144

uncle tungsten @ 136

The cynic in me thinks this rear supply extinguishment might have been carried out a month or two ago and repeated every few days. The same Uke army destruction rate would likely have been achieved and the clearance of Artyomovsk would have proceeded at lower Russian lives lost.

They didn’t have the missile inventory, they need to keep stocks up to defend pre SMO Russian territory, ward off a genuine NATO/USA attack from the Baltic Sea, Poland, and from the USA in the Pacific. Looks like they got their stocks back up and I assume a steady supply at a higher rate now. Put some fear in NATO before going on the offensive would be a good idea.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 7 2023 23:28 utc | 145

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 7 2023 21:44 utc | 122
Or a bit of both. Weaken the Ukrainian offensive, whilst preparing the ground for your own counter.

Posted by: Milites | May 7 2023 23:47 utc | 146

Doctor Eleven #124
Maybe the west will give balloons another try with semtex payloads etc. The last time was fairly cost effective, up to the shoot down stage that is.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 7 2023 23:52 utc | 147

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | May 7 2023 22:36 utc | 138

once you’re CIA you can never ‘leave’, no one is ever ‘former’ GRU.

Mercouris said something to this effect (and more) based on an email he claimed to have received from an ‘anonymous person in the know’. While it could all be fantasy it sounded very plausible: the upshot was basically that Wagner was formed as a public-private enterprise between two GRU divisions and an unnamed public partner.
Which makes me wonder about Prigozhin: Is he as much a civilian as he’s made out to be or a true native of the Russia intelligence apparatus …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 7 2023 23:54 utc | 148

Russia needs to have the death penalty for terrorists and saboteurs. Being soft on terrorists only encourages them.
Zakhar Prilepin’s first words after surviving the terrorist attack.
Greetings to all the relatives.
My family member, who worked as my guardian angel for 8 years, died, Sasha “Evil” Shubin. A fearless soldier and friend and brother.
I’ve just been given a phone. There is some confusion in the media. Sasha was riding on the passenger seat on the right. I was driving. The explosion occurred under his wheel.
I lost consciousness for about three minutes, woke up and crawled to the broken windshield. The villagers who ran up helped me to get out. I have both legs broken.
“lenta.ru” writes that I was not aware of what was happening. I didn’t see them there. In fact, I asked them to bring me a phone from the car, and immediately gave all the orders, because everything was clear as soon as I woke up. Then a neighbor gave me painkillers.
Thanks to Gleb Sergeevich Nikitin for sending a helicopter right away. It’s 3 hours from there to the city and I’m not really sure I would have made it in my right mind. The helicopter flew in 16 minutes.
Already here I was informed that there were two mines. But this guy got scared and immediately ran away after the explosion of the first one. If the second one exploded, everyone would have died.
He was caught.
I actually dropped my daughter off 5 minutes before the explosion.
Shari confused everything in his video. It shows photos of houses not from my village. It was possible to bury at night in this place at least ten mines . Residential windows don’t go out there.
Thanks to everyone who prayed, because it was still impossible to survive such an explosion.
Thanks to Prigozhin, Medvedev, Zakharova, Simonyan, Mironov, Boyakov, all the soldiers and officers of the “Oplota”, the brothers of the military officers for responding immediately. They brought me exactly these printouts, I haven’t seen any others yet.
Thanks to all my relatives, I hear and feel everything.
Thanks to Sanechka, over these 8 years he saved my life several times.
I do not have any words to say to you, San, now.
Sledge and I were just starting to build a chapel in our village.
I’ll finish it. It will be in honor of St. Alexander.
I inform the demons: you will not intimidate anyone.
There is a God.
We will win.

Posted by: MiniMo | May 7 2023 23:55 utc | 149

Can we just leave this issue of Pregorzhin now? There is no conspiracy, maskirova or whatever. He has a tendency to shoot his mouth off and has acquired some serious narcissistic tendencies. The RF Military or Government do not play these kind of stupid gaines. He is being allowed to complete the liberation of Bakhmut. After that, I doubt we will hear much from him because he is a serious liability to the RF Government and Military. At a time when RF is fighting the entire collective West, nay sayers like Pregorzhin have no place on the battlefield. Stability, Unity and solidarity of purpose is what is required.

Posted by: Jo Dominich | May 7 2023 23:58 utc | 150

Last years 1 million man army summer offensive took place in the autumn with around 30k participants.

Posted by: Oh | May 8 2023 0:06 utc | 151

LightYearsFromHome #145

They didn’t have the missile inventory, they need to keep stocks up to defend pre SMO Russian territory, ward off a genuine NATO/USA attack from the Baltic Sea, Poland, and from the USA in the Pacific. Looks like they got their stocks back up and I assume a steady supply at a higher rate now. Put some fear in NATO before going on the offensive would be a good idea.

I am fairly confident that Russia has an immense inventory. They likely planned for the SMO stage a year before they actioned it. I can see that for the past couple of decades Russia has been frenetic in developing missile weapons advantage over the westies and finally achieved that stage. BUT as for conventional weapons like artillery and short range mobile systems, drone attack systems they are copiously endowed. Chassov Yar is well within range of the Russian firing positions. PLUS the Russians savagely police their no fly zone on the battle front that has crushed the Uke large war planes. The Russians have an airforce too!
If there is a logic behind all this then perhaps it falls back to the meat grinder tactic but grinding your own while ignoring the annihilation of an enemy staging point 10 to 20 kilometers away begs questions.
There is no crime in challenging the ossified mindset of the Russian Army when your nation has taken the dramatic step to crush the hegemon threat.
Time will tell.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 8 2023 0:09 utc | 152

Can we just leave this issue of Pregorzhin now? There is no conspiracy, maskirova or whatever. He has a tendency to shoot his mouth off and has acquired some serious narcissistic tendencies. The RF Military or Government do not play these kind of stupid gaines. He is being allowed to complete the liberation of Bakhmut. After that, I doubt we will hear much from him because he is a serious liability to the RF Government and Military. At a time when RF is fighting the entire collective West, nay sayers like Pregorzhin have no place on the battlefield. Stability, Unity and solidarity of purpose is what is required.
Posted by: Jo Dominich | May 7 2023 23:58 utc | 150
He just played his last card of jewish privilege IMAO. No one in the Russian officer Corps, mostly Orthodox men or adjacent, will let him get away with the outbursts and the display of the pile of dead Russians that he was incidentally responsible for.

Posted by: Wokechoke | May 8 2023 0:21 utc | 153

Big things happening. Slavyangrad is reporting the largest missile strike of the entire SMO taking place tonight in central Ukraine. NASA Lance Firms showing the center of the country ablaze. Open Source Intelligence Monitor is reporting destruction of the Pidyomnyy Mist Bridge, completely isolating Ukrainian Bessarabia from Odesa. Faytuks is reporting the largest drone attack of the war concentrated against Kiev. Intel Slava is reporting a major missile attack against Odesa tonight. Spiriter is reporting unusual aerial phenomena observable from Melitipol. TASS and RIA are reporting major movements in Bahkmut. Black Sea Ship Traffic Map is showing one Turkish vessel hightailing it out of Odesa. I cannot find any accurate information for Black Sea flights at the moment. Whatever this is, it is substantively different from anything that has happened since the first month of the SMO.

Posted by: Hitch | May 8 2023 0:21 utc | 154

Big attack ongoing, Kiev air defence seems to be working ok, taking down drones.

Posted by: Oh | May 8 2023 0:28 utc | 155

TASS reports, “Kiev’s counteroffensive to ‘pave the way’ for dialogue with Russia — WSJ”: ‘The Wall Street Journal points out that this “shift in Western thinking” is occurring amid Western countries’ serious concern that they won’t be able to maintain the necessary level of military aid to Ukraine in the future.’

The Kiev regime’s ostensibly possible counteroffensive may “pave the way” for peace talks between Russia and Ukraine by the end of the year with China being one of the mediators, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday citing European officials.
According to the newspaper, key representatives from the US National Security Council support the idea of holding the negotiations between Kiev and Moscow. That said, the US Department of State and the CIA are skeptical of the idea and would like to see the result of the potential Ukrainian counteroffensive before taking any diplomatic steps.
The Wall Street Journal also points out that this “shift in Western thinking” is occurring amid Western countries’ serious concern that they won’t be able to maintain the necessary level of military aid to the Kiev regime in the future. That said, some Western states want to see whether China is capable of defusing the conflict which also indicates a change in the way the West sees Beijing’s role.
Media conjecture about a potential counteroffensive by Ukrainian troops has been rife for several months running, with various potential trigger dates being publicly mooted. Earlier, the Russian Foreign Ministry highlighted that such open speculation within Western countries about expectations for an upcoming Ukrainian counteroffensive only serves to confirm these countries’ direct involvement in the conflict.
On April 23, Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council Secretary Alexey Danilov rejected calls for dialogue on settling the conflict with Russia demanding more weapons from the West. Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that Moscow always supported holding negotiations but dialogue on the situation around Ukraine is possible only if Russia’s legitimate interests and concerns are taken into account.

Contradictions abound within NATO’s posture as serious doubts are clearly apparent. However, China isn’t going to bailout NATO as the Bloc must deal with Russia’s 2021 security proposals it’s ignored, belittled or dismissed to-date. Team Biden will continue to stonewall and intone its As long as it takes mantra, but some EU NATO members have a better grip on reality. One critically important aspect Team Biden never seemed to grasp is the extreme difficulty in amassing forces for an offensive without them being decimated before they can be committed to battle. The time to have done that was during Winter when the skies were overcast most of the time and thus blinded Russian satellites. And of course, that meant all available means needed to be shipped to Ukraine in November/December, not delayed until March/April. It would be much better for Ukraine to try and keep the FEBA stable while building and training up its forces so they can be deployed under the cover of weather for an offensive this Winter. But even then, without AD and CAS, any offensive is going to need a great deal of luck to attain its objective. And of course, Russia might change the game with its own offensive later this Spring or Summer.
IMO, by the D-Day anniversary, NATO will be even more skeptical. EU NATO members must somehow overcome Team Biden Neocon’s doubling down penchant and force it to move on the political issues that must be solved if peace is to be obtained. And that will be no easy task as those Neocons have already said Fuck the EU once at the beginning of this crisis.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2023 0:32 utc | 156

@ Posted by: Hitch | May 8 2023 0:21 utc | 154
It’s Sunday night – early Monday morning. That is when Russia lets missiles fly. It is “Kill a Nazi night”, shoot 1 missile, get 2 extra.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | May 8 2023 0:35 utc | 157

Caveat emptor re my taking down drones comment, it maybe they are used to dry up missile availability so the cruise stuff gets through.

Posted by: Oh | May 8 2023 0:35 utc | 158

@126 Petri Krohn
I agree that the endgame is to force Russia to use nuclear weapons. This serves three purposes, it will: 1) further ostracize Russia; 2) make Ukraine an enemy of and source of terrorist incursions into Russia for the next hundred years, and 3) remove the taboo against the use of nuclear weapons, which will allow the US or Israel to use them against Iran.

Posted by: schmoe | May 8 2023 0:35 utc | 159

Hitch | May 8 2023 0:21 utc | 154–
The recent attacks on Crimea originated from Odessa, thus the return fire. Lots of reserves around Kiev being the likely targets there. IMO, the civilian evacuations around Zaporozhye could also be in preparation for an offensive moving through there. Overall, my suspicions are raised high in expectation of Russia’s action on 9 May besides Putin’s speech at the parade.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2023 0:41 utc | 160

Russia can’t start full offensive right now because of:
– superiority in weapons parity isn’t enough, so it will suffers huge losses. Ugledar offensive shows – russian forces still lack preparedness to overcome Ukrainian-NATO defenses at a cheap price. Recent addition of planning bomb seems effective, and it must be produced in enough quantities to reach expected outcome.
– human resources are somewhat limited compared to NATO countries. Did Europe start to hire refugees for this war? It had to do long time ago indeed. Of course Poland is there and willing to fight (now only as a part of a proxy war).
– there is a chance that NATO forces could enter Ukraine. means they have to keep reserves to withstand in that fully fledged war.
– prolonging costly war leads to the West stuck in the war and financial crisis mood. So it seems that Russian bear took a path of a highly regulated intensity conflict. Seems US is also following this idea, though, rationaly US would be interested in fast conflict resolution to start the offensive against China.
– yet, time is still needed for Russia to restructure and adjust to the war time economics.
– management needs optimization.
So, after necessary preparations, Russia welcomes Ukraine to start offensive to imposes heavily losses to the offending side of conflict in conjuction with counteroffensive if Ukrainians will not stop it in right time.
Russia also buys support of other countries by selling them cheap oil. It needs them. Mid East and Africa countries are tied of West hypocricy and will welcome second player into the party to make a better bargain.
Both Russia and West are the same – they run by criminal elites. the difference is in the exterior only.
Why Prigozhin blamed MoD for ammunition lack? We can think of MoD that never went with open comments about such accusation. It could be bluff, or an approach taken by Putin to control MoD oligarchy which supported him and yet got stronger in recent years by mil contract money. And it could be paradoxically both, so from one side Putin needs to reduce MoD influence thorugh social opinion forming, and at the same time, asking Ukrainians to fight for the city which is almost lost and suffer casualties.
I don’t think that Putin could rule out a good offer made by West allowing him to save face, and draw the lines if its national interests up to the meaningful extend. Latter means, Russia needs human resources from neighbor countries to withstand against long term threat from China. They can’t keep country by relying on own rapidly declining population despite the fact that the war gives a chance for Russia to reset demographic trends through destruction of postmodern formed social landscape via patriotism and conservative family values.

Posted by: asehi | May 8 2023 0:46 utc | 161

HEADLINES
AGGRESSIVE Polish fighter plane, panics, and is chased out of Black Sea by Russian SU25

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 8 2023 0:47 utc | 162

Some videos for today.
Cycle of terror — Kiev regime resorts to terrorism:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/kiev-terror-attacks:6
Kiev regime thugs abducted US-Chilean journalist Gonzalo Lira:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/GONZALOLIRA:e
Russian T-80 tank destroys enemy T-64 at point-blank range:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/9IjLsZYQPO8EqvFF:b
Russian Lancet drone destroys British-supplied anti-aircraft system:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/video_2023-05-07_12-06-58:e
Russian Lancet drone destroys US-supplied M109 self-propelled howitzer:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/m109lancet2:9
Russian Su-25s conduct airstrike:
https://rutube.ru/video/a4b2c2a88d783c7c52f47febc8f517da/
Russian T-72B3 tank pounds enemy position:
https://rutube.ru/video/5056062cf6db82c96f3566a109ab7b07/

Posted by: Nate | May 8 2023 0:58 utc | 163

Russia says high waters threaten dam near Ukrainian nuclear plant, TASS reports
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-high-waters-threaten-dam-near-ukrainian-nuclear-plant-tass-2023-05-05/

Posted by: Arrnon | May 8 2023 1:25 utc | 164

“ Zarkovic confirms that after visiting Energodar, Crimea and a few other cities in the past week that the Russian lines of defense are seriously jaw-dropping, “heavyweight” defense lines even in Crimea. He dares say without fear of contradiction that these are the strongest and most powerful defense lines on Earth that not one single army in the world can penetrate at this point in time.”
Hey US/UK/EU/IMF/Black Rock/Vatican/Musk/et el…
Your Nation-State LAUNDRY MAT is coming to an end… just like the rest of you!!
Cheers 🍻!

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 8 2023 1:29 utc | 165

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | May 7 2023 18:07 utc | 58

You can provide your children with the necessary vaccinations only for money. To fully vaccinate a child up to a year comes out at $1000
For example, an imported analogue of adsorbed pertussis-diphtheria-tetanus vaccines costs $120 . Only a few can afford to be vaccinated, and they need to be done at least three times before a year.

It used to be commonly accepted that vaccinations only start being effective at the age of 2. Before that the immune system isn’t functioning fully yet and won’t create immunity. I only got them starting from 2 years old. And way less then is common today. Medical professionals have occasionally admitted that jabs given in the first 2 years are to condition the parents to vaccinate their child. And for profit I would add.

Posted by: GoverntheMente | May 8 2023 1:29 utc | 166

Black Sea Ship Traffic Map is showing one Turkish vessel hightailing it out of Odesa.
Posted by: Hitch | May 8 2023 0:21 utc | 154
I wonder if the Turkish ship was delivering drones and weapons.

Posted by: MiniMo | May 8 2023 1:35 utc | 167

143.
This is solipism essentially as political science. Spare us this sophomoric idiocy, won’t you?
No, the war in Ukraine is not a fake. Sometimes a cigar is just a fucking cigar.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 8 2023 1:37 utc | 168

It used to be commonly accepted that vaccinations only start being effective at the age of 2.
Posted by: GoverntheMente | May 8 2023 1:29 utc | 166
In the U.S. they give hepatitis vaccines to babies as soon as they are born, and even though (most of) the mothers don’t or never had hepatitis.
Vaccines are filled with neurotoxins such as thimerosol/mercury and aluminum.

Posted by: MiniMo | May 8 2023 1:39 utc | 169

Hitch | May 8 2023 1:42 utc | 171–
Yes, that too. Nobody said the vaunted offensive had to be directed at the current FEBA.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2023 1:58 utc | 170

“Gotcha. And the asshole is even linking to your Substack too. We need a better system here.”
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2023 21:51 utc | 129
Last time Saker made everyone register to comment he did killed off the alphabet soup trolls.
Then he was made an offer he cannot refuse, and ended up shutting down.
Same ending for MOA if b tried to push this thru. The alphabet soup trolls must be allowed their “freedom of speech” or else!

Posted by: Surferket | May 8 2023 2:09 utc | 171

“Latter means, Russia needs human resources from neighbor countries to withstand against long term threat from China.”
All The hallmarks of another alphabet soup troll who cannot resist playing the “evil China threat to Russia”.

Posted by: Surferket | May 8 2023 2:17 utc | 172

I have seen no discussion of the Patriot missile shooting down the Khinzal. Is this BS? Seems obvious but quite silence.

Posted by: Battenmountain | May 8 2023 3:00 utc | 173

In general, judging by the reports on the Network, the Russian Armed Forces struck at logistics centers and areas of concentration of AFU reinforcements along the line of contact. Hence the blows on the Chasiv Yar and Ugledar.
The targets for fire damage in the Sumy, Chernihiv and Zhytomyr regions could be the concentration areas and landfills where parts of the 9th and 10th AK of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which form the backbone of the counteroffensive and the spring-summer campaign, are now being coordinated.
As for the Odessa region, the most likely target is warehouses with UAVs and transferred weapons. Blazing in Odessa is loud now.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/45041

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡ A powerful artillery strike on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Chasov Yar
There is information that artillery of all calibers is actively working on the positions of the 112th, 127th and 241st territorial defense brigades, the 228th troop battalion, as well as on the positions of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine north of Chasov Yar in the Bogdanovka area and the Valianovka railway station .
According to reports from the field, a number of shells and rockets are being used that no one has seen in the area before.

https://t.me/intelslava/47469

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 3:11 utc | 174

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 7 2023 19:52 utc | 78
No problem.

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 3:12 utc | 175

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🤚 Military Expert Boris Rozhin on the Situation in the #Artyomovsk (#Bakhmut) Sector as of 23:35 Moscow Time on 07 May 2023⚡️
🔹 1. In the City, the Wagner PMC continues its assault on a block of highrise buildings on the western outskirts.
Strikes on the last strongholds of the AFU intensified today + by evening, in addition to #Artyomovsk, they started to cover #Bogdanovka, Orekhovo-Vasilyevka, Chasov Yar and other settlements to the west of the city. Also during the day there were strikes on the #Slavyansk – #Kramatorsk agglomeration.
The fighting in the city is in the nature of pushing the enemy out of the city house by house.
According to Prigozhin, no prisoners were taken. Shells for Wagner seem to have been allocated, which is also noted by the enemy, complaining about the intensified shelling of the AFU grouping in the city and to the west of #Artyomovsk.
🔹 2. From a logistical Point of View, there is still a situation of operational encirclement of the AFU grouping in the city. All roads into the city are shot through, leading to regular losses in equipment to the west of the city. Nevertheless, the enemy, despite its losses, is trying to hold supplies and is even driving additional equipment into the city to replace those that have been destroyed.
Rumours that the AFU has run out of equipment in #Artyomovsk are untrue. There are still tanks and armoured personnel carriers.
🔹 3. #Khromovo, #Bogdanovka, Orekhovo-Vasilyevka, #Krasnoye, #Novomarkovo are all under the control of the AFU. Our stormtroopers have not yet entered these settlements.
Syrsky said today that the task is to hold #Artyomovsk at least until 9 May. In essence, it repeats the situation with the agony of the remnants of the #Mariupol grouping of the AFU at Azovstal, which was also tasked last year not to capitulate until 9 May, after which it capitulated shortly after the holidays.
However, Prigozhin has already reported that there is no task to take the city exactly by the date. The primary objective is to grind down as many AFU forces as possible while the Battle for #Artyomovsk is under way.
📜 Boris Rohzin

https://t.me/sitreports/8329

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 3:22 utc | 176

@175 a pic of the wreckage I saw looked unconvincing to me and the western coverage is the definition of dubious. although they valiantly report what Ukraine alleges even though they can’t verify it, which isn’t exactly news it’s just gossip.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 8 2023 3:49 utc | 177

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the #SMO for 6-7 May 2023⚡️
🔹#Russia’s Hinterland:
▪️ In Nizhny Novgorod region, there was an assassination attempt on Zakhar Prilepin. His car was blown up with a landmine planted in the ground. His comrade-in-arms was killed. Prilepin sustained multiple wounds, regained consciousness and his condition is stable.
🔹#Russia’s Border Areas:
▪️ In the #Kursk region, the villages of #Krasnooktyabrsky and #Tetkino were shelled. Residential buildings and civilian infrastructure were damaged. Civilians were not injured.
▪️ In the #Belgorod region, AFU shelled the town of #Shebekino on Saturday. A school building, a shopping mall and an industrial facility were damaged. One civilian was wounded.
➖ On Sunday, the enemy struck the villages of #Spodaryushino, #Murom and #Ustinka, Residential buildings, power lines and a gas pipeline were damaged. One woman was seriously wounded.
🔹#Starobelsk (#Svatovo) Direction:
▪️ No significant changes on the front line. Position fighting and artillery duels continue.
➖ According to some reports, AFU DRGs are conducting roadside mines in places where vehicles stop.
🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction (MAP):
▪️ In #Bakhmut, Wagner PMC units are engaged in fierce fighting along Donbass Liberators Street.
➖To the northwest, Russian forces managed to break through the enemy defences along Pobedy Street and Tolbukhin Street.
➖ Southwards, the “Wagnerians” are methodically advancing in the direction of the Pobeda Cinema west of Chaykovsky Street.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ In the #Avdeyevka sector, Russian servicemen continue their operation to cover the AFU grouping in the city.
▪️ AFU again shelled residential buildings and civilian infrastructure in #Donetsk agglomeration. At least two civilians were killed.
▪️ In #Maryinka, Russian units continue fierce fighting with the enemy in the western districts.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction (MAP):
▪️ Ukrainian forces continue to prepare for an offensive, moving equipment and personnel. A convoy of over 70 units of various equipment passed through #Dnepropetrovsk.
▪️ In the #Orekov section, where the enemy is attempting reconnaissance by combat, tank and assault units of the AFU’s 10th Army Corps are being amassed.
▪️ Ukrainian formations are continually shelling the territories liberated by the RF Armed Forces. Evacuations are underway in a number of settlements.
🔹#Kherson Direction on #SouthFront (MAP):
▪️The situation has not changed significantly. The sides are engaged in mutual artillery shelling, while the Russian side is actively employing aviation.
▪️ The AFU command is noving additional forces to the right bank of the #Dnieper, preparing for a possible crossing. At the same time, communication base stations in the vicinity of #Kherson are being turned off and mobile devices are being taken away for camouflage purposes.
🔹#Crimea (MAP):
▪️ On Saturday, Russian air defence assets intercepted two missiles launched by Ukrainian formations from a Grom-2 MLRS near the village of #Privetnoye. No casualties or damage.
▪️ On Sunday, the enemy launched 23 drones to attack the Crimean peninsula: all drones were hit or landed with the help of Signals Intelligence near #Sevastopol and #Gvardeyskoye, no damage.
🔸Political and other Events:
▪️ Another prisoner exchange has taken place. 2 lieutenant colonels and a major of the Aerospace Forces have returned to #Russia, while 45 militants have departed in the opposite direction.
▪️ Zelensky met with US businessmen and volunteers from #Utah.
▪️ Ukraine’s Culture Minister Aleksandr Tkachenko said that the Soviet coat of arms on the Motherland sculpture in Kiev will be replaced with a Ukrainian trident.
▪️ The first 3 of 16 Israeli radars by RADA Electronic Industries have arrived in #Ukraine.
▪️ Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s GUR head, K. Budanov, said in an interview with Yahoo News that he intends to continue killing Russians anywhere in the world for the victory of the AFU.

https://t.me/sitreports/8330

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 4:11 utc | 178

I have seen no discussion of the Patriot missile shooting down the Khinzal. Is this BS? Seems obvious but quite silence.
Posted by: Battenmountain | May 8 2023 3:00 utc | 175
I don’t recall where, but I read that it didn’t happen and was reported as such fairly early on.

Posted by: Jmaas | May 8 2023 5:04 utc | 179

Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2023 0:32 utc | 156
Biden and the Nuland clan knew perfectly well about the dangers of conducting offensive operations under Russian ISR, they just downplayed its ever-increasing capabilities to proxy and public, so as to cynically give them false hope to continue the conflict. This technique of spinning fake narratives, perfected during their journey to power, was also used to manage the myths and expectations, after the failed autumn offensives largely destroyed Second Ukrainian Armies offensive operational capabilities. A winter offensive was therefore never feasible, a fact they were all too aware of, hence the careful news management about a ‘winter lull, before fighting in spring resumed.
They will undoubtably attempt to rewrite the history books, and this argument will be deployed in a similar fashion as General Winter was blamed for German defeats, during the initial stages of Barbarossa. The end is near, so managing expectations and the marshalling of excuses is the name of the game for the key-players, not realistic war-planning.

Posted by: Milites | May 8 2023 6:06 utc | 180

Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2023 21:51 utc | 129
The suspect is most likely a known username here. It has hit me hard so I assume it is someone I have upset.
b no longer polices the bar since it got so big. I got policed a few times earlier on. But all the fake/usurper usernames are most likely from one clown. Not many of them actually but a good many either using my name or directed at me.
It is one thing to have different opinions and argue. Quite another to assume another’s username.
Snake oil, con man, fraud. many terms I guess apply.
Several here, from what they have written are quite capable of this sort of thing. But then it could very well be that it is something from outside US/UK Five-eyes. But b is no longer policing the comments. b said he would not be policing the comment section because it had gotton so long. He said send an email if there is a problem. Last time I did and the username usurpers where shut down. This time nothing.
To vehemently disagree with someones views is one thing. They are genuine people and genuine views. But what we are seeing now is totally different. The usurping of usernames with comments designed to deliberately cause conflict. An oddball with a hate for society, or five-eyes?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 8 2023 6:07 utc | 181

181 read the thread ukraine has denied it ever happened. seems only western media is going with the tripe.
on another note , Ukrainian journalist Dmitry Gordon I am sure that millions of Ukrainians on May 9 will watch a live broadcast from the parade in Moscow, in the hope that something will happen there.

Posted by: hankster | May 8 2023 6:08 utc | 182

Posted by: barstool | May 7 2023 20:53 utc | 100
No, when and wherever Ukraine decide to launch their offensive they will find an Operation Fredericus is waiting for them, with similar dire results.

Posted by: Milites | May 8 2023 6:14 utc | 183

The last stronghold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to be razed to the ground in Bakhmut, and the military is already openly declaring that it makes no strategic sense to keep a piece of the city.
After the arrival of artillery or air bombs, there is practically nothing left of the house, everyone understands one thing, that when going to Bakhmut, the chances of surviving are minimal, and there is practically no real battle, the enemy simply hits with artillery, which we cannot suppress.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17663

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 6:16 utc | 184

Zaporozhye (under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine)
1. An emergency collection of all blood types has been announced on Saturday and Sunday in all the city publications and media. They ask everyone from the factories who are not involved to come and provide blood. 05/08/23, starting from 09.00 until the “last client”. At the same time, there were no particularly massive influxes of the wounded over the last days.
2. Since Friday, 05.05.23, in the Naberezhnaya area, where Shevchenko Boulevard crosses into it, there has been an accumulation of obvious newcomers wearing T-shirts with the logo of Gonor. This is one of the most stubborn Nazi groups. They harassed passers-by with the question of whether they own “Khokhloma”. There were 30-40 people
3. Also there appeared others without chevrons, but in a very cool camouflage, and Panamas, such as Afghan. Azov used to have such.
It is possible that the collection of blood is connected not with what has already happened, but with some upcoming events.

https://t.me/sitreports/8338

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 6:18 utc | 185

I have seen no discussion of the Patriot missile shooting down the Khinzal. Is this BS? Seems obvious but quite silence.
Posted by: Battenmountain | May 8 2023 3:00 utc | 175
Check up on the ghost of Kiev. I am very sure he shot it down. Snowman dusting off his nose is a great actor and good for children’s fairy tails and dressing in drag, but far distanced from fact.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 8 2023 6:18 utc | 186

🦠🇷🇺🇺🇦 About the epidemiological situation in Kharkov region and how it is related to corruption
Our sources in the Kharkov region report the threat of an epidemic of various diseases in Ukraine against the backdrop of ongoing hostilities and rampant corruption.
🔻What happened?
▪️According to representatives of government agencies, the government of Ukraine did not purchase vaccines for the population, deciding to save money. At the same time, the proceeds were stolen.
In Kharkov, they are waiting for the start of an epidemic of measles, mumps, whooping cough and diphtheria due to the fact that more than 60% of children are not vaccinated. Yes, there are vaccines donated by the WHO and the UN, but of much lower quality.
Infectiologists urge parents not to use them because of the almost guaranteed health problems, to buy more expensive but effective ones.
▪️The situation with epilepsy medicines is also difficult: they don’t bring imported ones, problems in logistics, and Russian ones have long ended .
The only effective drug that prevents seizures in infants is Russian-made. New ones, obviously, are not purchased, preferring free medicines in humanitarian aid packages, which do not reach consumers.
▪️Children stopped being vaccinated against tuberculosis, the previously used vaccines were also Russian. Turkish analogues are periodically brought to the city, but this rarely happens, and not everyone can afford them. A similar situation with the Mantoux test .
You can provide your children with the necessary vaccinations only for money. To fully vaccinate a child up to a year comes out at $1000
For example, an imported analogue of adsorbed pertussis-diphtheria-tetanus vaccines costs $120 . Only a few can afford to be vaccinated, and they need to be done at least three times before a year.
🔻 What about water supply?
Also in Kharkov, there has been a problem with drinking water for several days. The only water treatment plant can not cope due to wear and tear of equipment. The price of drinking water is high. People use tap water.
🔻 What about the work of morgues and the situation with the dead?
Due to the large number of deaths in morgues and hospitals, there is simply no place for bodies. In institutions, they do not wait for the allotted time, trying to unload the work of crematoria – all unidentified people are simply burned .
At the same time, no one tries to establish the identity of the victim, due to lack of time. And pathologists were forbidden to indicate the real causes of death, so that relatives could not receive compensation.
Most have problems with the heart or circulatory insufficiency – they are not entitled to payments. One of these victims with a bullet wound to the neck was diagnosed with cardiac arrest caused by a ruptured mitral valve.
The large number of dead has also created problems in the funeral sector, as the cemeteries are already overflowing. At one of these sites in Bezlyudovka , the distance from the burial places is no more than ten centimeters .
🔻In this regard, the medical community fears a cholera epidemic, but they cannot do anything. The authorities forbade even mentioning it. The head of the state administration (HCA) , Oleg Sinegubov, personally threatened to be punished under wartime laws “for discrediting and complicity with Russia.”
The HCA prefers to hide the true state of affairs, as this will create problems not only in Ukraine, but also in the West. The administration of Sinegubov is cashing in on foreign humanitarian aid, selling all the most valuable things on the side.
And there are practically no prerequisites for changing the situation. The supplies of humanitarian aid were initially used to launder money and enrich the authorities, and the needs of their own population for them are only accompanying victims.
#Россия #Украина #Харьков
@rybar
Two Majors

https://t.me/sitreports/8343

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 6:19 utc | 187

Posted by: Dacian | May 7 2023 23:10 utc | 143
Nonsense there are literal mirror arrays on the moon placed there TWICE. No other major power denies that the US landed there. GTFO.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 8 2023 6:21 utc | 188

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 8 2023 6:18 utc | 188
LOL

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 8 2023 6:28 utc | 189

While the SloMO continues at a snail’s pace, drama queens Prigozhin and Lira provide some entertainment on the sidelines. With the Russians having dug in so extensively in especially Zaporizhzhia it doesn’t look like the Russians want to push on much further. All is not doom and gloom however as the SloMO does have some redeeming features, its at least beginning to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Terminator for one.
https://t.me/engpravda/3513
The first video with the skull is the best, its even got some of that red at the side of the eye like the Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 in the movie.

Posted by: gT | May 8 2023 6:41 utc | 190

“A few hours earlier, the head of Ukrainian intelligence reported a missile shortage in Russia.
The head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine, Budanov, in an interview with a foreign publication, among other things , said that the Russian army no longer has the military potential for an offensive anywhere in Ukraine.”

https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1655355706650812421
The projection is off the charts.
#Ukranian soldiers are saying that holding on to the remaining 2-3% of #Bakhmut has no tactical advantage
The idea is to hold until the 9th of May.
The cost of the Ukranian soldiers lives is disregarded

https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1655436297895309315
“Today’s strike on logistics and warehouses in Ukraine, as well as the most powerful artillery attack on Chasov Yar, is similar to the events of 80 years ago, when the Red Army launched an artillery strike on the Germans, a few hours before their offensive, starting the Battle of Kursk.”
https://twitter.com/tretter50001/status/1655434814986526720
Head of Odessa’s military enlistment office turns out to own a 4 million € villa and a new €130k Mercedes G-wagon in Spain. Maybe if you have €5k you can buy yourself out…
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1655305000061485059
…the rest, get in the van and off to the front you go.
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1655307566073753602
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1655308016890019848

Posted by: unimperator | May 8 2023 6:43 utc | 191

Re downed Kinzhal:
Only in this thread this was discussed and confirmed to be a hoax several times.
Same for the last 3-5 threads.
Re:
Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2023 0:32 utc | 156
The problem i see for any one EU-Nato member state is the internal contradictions of the EU itself.
Those contradictions run too deep, especially regarding political economy, to be solved within the EU itself.
The whole project was planned and executed on the flawed assumption that RoW wouldn’t ever be able to loosen the shackles of globalist imperialism.
The whole project was based on the flawed assumption that you can shape physical reality by will for eternity. Pure idealism.
Thanks to neoliberal financialization and deindustrialization ye olde oxident is toast, simple as that.
You can run your empire for exactly that long until those you put your boots in their necks realize: it is us who control the means of production making the lavish lifestyles of the west possible in the first place.
It all comes down in shambles now, as every house of cards built on quick sand has to, eventually.
Here i think the analysis you shared to be to optimistic.
We do not deal in reality, here in the west. Panicked animals will not act rationally. Panicked animals will lash out against everyone near. Panicked animals we poor Europeans will be.
And furious the panicked animals will have to rage and exhaust themselves one another to come to terms with reality finally.
Until then, no honest diplomacy will be possible with any of the current EU-memberstates.

Posted by: kspr | May 8 2023 6:46 utc | 192

@ 183 peter au..
send bernhard an email with the details of the posts where your name is being usurped.. b does attend to this issue.. cheers james

Posted by: james | May 8 2023 6:50 utc | 193

The West continues to publish the reasons for postponing the counteroffensive, but in reality the problem is that too much is at stake for Ukraine, with negative scenarios.
We wrote that Zaluzhny pointed out at Headquarters about the problems that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would face during the counteroffensive: artillery / Black Sea Fleet / defensive structures / total enemy advantage in aviation / missiles, and now air bombs.
The Telegraph: Russia’s newest weapon – guided bombs – is changing the course of the war in Ukraine and could force Kyiv to reconsider its counteroffensive plans.
Once these bombs arrive, Ukraine will need “significant air defense” on the front lines, especially in places like river crossings or fortified Russian positions, where the UAF becomes vulnerable to air attacks. Also, points of collection of Ukrainian troops, control and logistics centers may fall under the blows.
Ukrainian officials estimate that Russian forces are dropping at least 20 glide bombs a day on the battlefield. And this has been happening for a month now. Most strikes are carried out from a distance of 25-30 miles (up to 48 kilometers) from the Ukrainian border.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17664

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 6:51 utc | 194

No one hit the hypersonic “Kinzhal”. Ukrainian military experts are trying to pass off the image of a water pipe as missile wreckage.
The Ukrainian army has no technical capability to shoot down such a missile. The American Patriot and any other Western-made air defense systems they use are not designed to intercept hypersonic aerodynamic targets. The only system in the world that has such a capability is the Russian S-500 Prometey air defense system.
Posted by: HERMIUS | May 7 2023 21:16 utc | 113

It wasn’t even used that night

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 8 2023 6:52 utc | 195

Our source reports that the authorities on the night strike in Odessa and the region showed only what could be shown. Hotel and warehouse.
The object that was blazing for a long time between Dachny and Usatovo was not shown, there is “tin”. No one showed the iron either. Plus, a hit in the Nikolaev region / Chernihiv region also remains in the shadows.
There was a massive UAV raid in Kyiv, most likely the Russians are luring the air defense / radar of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Or they are trying to force the Armed Forces of Ukraine to use up the entire supply of air defense missiles.
Let’s say one thing about the fact that fragments hit the apartment of a high-rise building in Kyiv. Perhaps there are hundreds of options for why this happened.
We know and everyone knows that the Kiev military administration and the Office of the President gave permission to the Armed Forces of Ukraine back in the spring of 2022 to install crews with MANPADS on the roofs of residential buildings. Sometimes equipment (missiles) fails, as was the case with Bayraktar, who got lost in Kyiv …

https://t.me/legitimniy/15291

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 6:53 utc | 196

Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2023 0:41 utc | 160
“Overall, my suspicions are raised high in expectation of Russia’s action on 9 May besides Putin’s speech at the parade.”
You did notice that Putin is too busy to attend the parade?
Probably dusting his bunker…

Posted by: Membrum Virile | May 8 2023 6:53 utc | 197

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 6:51 utc | 196

Russia’s newest weapon is changing the course of Ukraine war – The Telegraph
“The most basic of glide bombs are modified weapons fitted with wings and navigational systems that allow for a flight path to the target to be established.
It can be as simple and crude as converting unguided weapons with the Russians mostly overhauling old Soviet FAB-500 aerial bombs.
However, some glide bombs, such as the UPAB‐1500B‐E, are specifically designed with these features included.
It appears that the winged bombs, which are cheaper and easier to produce than ballistic and cruise missiles, have become Russia’s weapon of choice as it reportedly runs out of more hi-tech precision munitions.
The specification and capabilities of each gliding weapon – modified or manufactured – differ drastically, with some reported to have operating ranges of up to 75 miles and able to hit a target within a 10-metre radius.”
Western media can’t help themselves and must say that “Russia is running out of missiles”. The funny thing is the article was published about 8 hours before a massive missile and drone raid on AFU positions.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/61329

Posted by: Down South | May 8 2023 6:54 utc | 198

Peter AU1 @ 183
Hi Peter your right about this name theft. It’s really a very sick mind doing this.
. You may have your suspects.
But I can tell you, i’v known the name of the person since way before at least 6 months building up to this level of trickery.
It gets worse he is a regular known name, he is also on another site.
And often arrives here weekends with a team of less clever right wing grunts.
. Should I name the guy, I don’t know, I really don’t know.
As you may remember this problem has happened in the past, I was one of the few calling them out, even put up a list, called them nazi’s.
It was me that got banned.
The only platform they should have comes with a rope and trapdoor.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 8 2023 6:55 utc | 199

gT | May 8 2023 6:41 utc | 192
The SloMO. That term conjures up the thought that so many know so little. The Hoi polloi in the west can only think in terms of yank shock and awe. Russia has settled in to destroy anything that comes at it.
So we are eyeing off China. Ah yes we can take the chinks. Five-eyes are the mightiest in the world.
I guess I am uncouth but those clowns that think anglostan will and should rule the world forever should be taken out behind the shed and shot. So much death and destruction they have caused. More death to come before this is over.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 8 2023 7:01 utc | 200