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May 3, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-106
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Is that a riddle ? Because no one knows what you’re trying to say.
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 22:09 utc | 195
Back at ya…
Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 22:17 utc | 201
To: malenkov | May 3 2023 21:05 utc | 163
“If I had a dime for every time Hal Turner broadcast some hysterical bovine excrement, I could have bought First Republic Bank all by myself.”
– – –
Hal Turner frequently gets thing factually wrong or distorted – but very often he is CORRECT and well ahead of MSM. Sometimes he is days or even weeks ahead of other media.
Think of it as raw intel.
Posted by: Just Observing | May 3 2023 22:18 utc | 202
@HERMIUS
“The drone never hit the roof or the flagpole. It exploded by remote control. “
Yes, you could be right. In any case, you don’t see a muzzle flash from a rifle or anything like that. My first thought was that the drone was taken down with a simple shotgun.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 3 2023 22:18 utc | 203
Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2023 22:00 utc | 192
“Its beyound my understanding why the collective west chose to back Zelensky in the fist place, what with his transvestite piano playing…”
Because this war is about getting the EU off the Russian gas and oil tit, so the market will be open for US and especially Israeli oil and gas. Yes Israeli oil and and gas. They shipped their first oil tanker full to EU in March and getting ready for lng.
They don’t care what trained monkey stands by the organ grinder and turns the handle.
Posted by: Jerr | May 3 2023 22:20 utc | 204
LightYearsFromHome #117
you asked “What is China supposed to trade with the USA with? Or is China supposed to hit the USA with a sanctions tsunami like the USA hit Russia and suicide its economy?
China should heed the wisdom “A stitch in time saves nine.” or “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” It will cost China far less to prevent a war than fight one.
China won’t have to decide. US banks are collapsing, US consumers can’t afford food, so the serfs can’t afford Chinese products and are resorting to theft. Nordstroms just closed two San Francisco Stores, Whole Foods closed its flagship SF Store and Target SF had to lock all its goods behind locked doors. The US is going bankrupt.
Posted by: Willow | May 3 2023 22:22 utc | 205
HoBo 3@ 77 and others. King Charles the Turd is, unfortunately, yet another Stooge of the WEF. He seems to be keen to get involved in the Government of the UK. (I loosely say ‘Govt’ because it’s got so many Friends of Israel MPs in it and the Leader of the Opposition beng totally controlled by them, it has no agency especially when you factor in the USA as well).
Anyway, for the Posters here who have been discussing King Turd being Crowned with a tin foil hat I would like to add that, a la Inspector Clouseau style, as he is being Crowned a rogue Pigeon lands on said tin foil Crown, shits on his head and remains their in its regal state until said pigeon is removed by King Turd’s Royal Pheasant Plucker or his son. Now that’s what I would call a Coronation worth watching!!
Posted by: Jo Dominich | May 3 2023 22:24 utc | 206
# 195
clinton was saying
look,we are having a difference of opinion
but try a little harder and see it “MY WAY”
she is so forceful, and always in control
Posted by: Dingo | May 3 2023 22:24 utc | 207
Weren’t there a picture several months back of a Pantsir system hoisted onto the roof of the Kremlin? TG peeps had it next to a WW2 pict of an AA flak gun in the same spot. Pantsir guys went out for donuts and coffee?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 22:26 utc | 208
Lightyearsfromhome #17, you asked, “What is China supposed to trade with the USA with? Or is China supposed to hit the USA with a sanctions tsunami like the USA hit Russia and suicide its economy?”
Yes, its cheaper to prevent war than wage war
China should heed the wisdom of “A stitch in time saves nine.” or
“An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”
Besides, soon China won’t have to decide. US banks are collapsing and American serfs can’t afford Chinese products so theft has caused San Francisco Nordstroms stores and Whole Foods to close and Target has placed all goods behind locked doors.
Posted by: Willow | May 3 2023 22:31 utc | 209
@LightYearsFromHome
“Let me guess, the Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross? Are they still giving those out?”
Zelenskyj will receive the Karlspreis of Aachen. In doing so, he will stand in the same ranks as illustrious war criminals such as Tony Blair, Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger and Winston Churchill.
P.S.: The Iron Cross is called “Ehrenkreuz für Tapferkeit” now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr_Cross_of_Honour_for_Valour
Posted by: Apollyon | May 3 2023 22:33 utc | 210
A superb piece of theatre would be : as the newly crowned king of england appears to onlookers on the balcony of buckingham palace, a huge nazi flag rises behind him and the choir shrieks loudly through distorted loudspeakers ‘deutschland uber alles’ and the royal family instinctively raises their right arms in salute, all on live tv.
I dream on….
Posted by: Oh | May 3 2023 22:34 utc | 211
Don’t worry Israel’s got this junket at buck palace covered….
Via Epstein and Prince Andrew.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2023 22:39 utc | 212
The drone attack was designed for optics rather than actually damage. It was remotely detonated just before it would have dropped into the yards of the Kremlin. You will note the drone passes the flag, hits nothing, but explodes in mid air. If the drone had descended further the optics would not have been as dramatic.
IMO
Posted by: HERMIUS | May 3 2023 22:45 utc | 213
A superb piece of theatre would be : as the newly crowned king of england appears to onlookers on the balcony of buckingham palace, a huge nazi flag rises behind him and the choir shrieks loudly through distorted loudspeakers ‘deutschland uber alles’ and the royal family instinctively raises their right arms in salute, all on live tv.
I dream on….
Posted by: Oh | May 3 2023 22:34 utc | 212
I shall not be watching matters, as I will be disappointed by the lack of a flash from an arriving Kinzhal…
~~~
Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2023 22:39 utc | 213
I think they’ve made sure not to route the post-ceremony convoy through a Parisian underpass…
Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 22:50 utc | 214
… and how come Zelensky didn’t get an invite???
Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 22:53 utc | 215
Weren’t there a picture several months back of a Pantsir system hoisted onto the roof of the Kremlin? TG peeps had it next to a WW2 pict of an AA flak gun in the same spot. Pantsir guys went out for donuts and coffee?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 22:26 utc | 209
Good question indeed, although the drones might in fact have been shot down — if you look at the video, they explode over the building, they don’t smash at it.
But regardless, one Pantsir cannot protect the center of Moscow — it doesn’t have enough munition to repel a saturation attack. Presumably if hundreds of Geraniums are launched at Moscow, the dense ring of AD and EW around it will bring most of them down. But in this case it was apparently drones launched from inside Russia.
Also, as I have noted many times here, Russia has a big problem with drones that is a bit orthogonal to that of NATO. If NATO is under a saturation attack with kamikaze drones, they will fail to shoot them down because they have shit air defense. But they will at least detect them because they have excellent real-time ISR. Russia has great AD, but it will fail to detect the drones from far away. Because for three decades the Russian state has been “investing” its resources into mansions and megayachts for oligarchs, not into things like AWACS planes (which is what you need to detect low flying threats). To protect the borders, Russian needs more AWACS planes in the air at all times than it has in total. Notice how any time Russian AWACS planes are in the air, that is news to be reported. Meanwhile you barely hear anything about NATO AWACS missions — because they have a dozen planes and drones in the air 24/7, so it’s simply not news.
This does not bode well in a potential nuclear first strike — we’ve seen the Tu-141 Strizh drones reach very deep, and that is even bigger and much less stealth than US cruise missiles.
Speaking of a first attack, it has been nearly 24 hours now since the Kremlin was hit. Zero kinetic response so far. That does not speak well either — presumably for such an attack there should be a very short OODA loop and swift vengeance. So either there is not going to be any retaliation (bad), or the wheels turn very slowly (also bad). This is Russia we are talking about — it is supposed to have been practicing a second strike response for 70 years. It was the same with the Kerch bridge — a massive cruise missile launch did follow, but only 48 hours later, and it’s still not clear if it had not been planned already independently of the bridge bombing.
Posted by: shadowbanned | May 3 2023 22:53 utc | 216
Posted by: Willow | May 3 2023 22:31 utc | 210
China is still very dependent on the US financial system, but that is changing and they are dragging Asia and Africa out of it. They need to toe the line until US can no longer use its financial tools to hurt China. That occurs due to the independence. China still relies heavily on exports to the west.
After the west needs to use the BRICS system to buy their stuff, China is free to do whatever they want.
Posted by: unimperator | May 3 2023 22:54 utc | 217
The drone never hit the roof or the flagpole. It exploded by remote control. It was a small, battery operated drone. As a professional drone pilot myself I could see the drone was battery operated. This means it would have had a battery life of about 30 minutes at the most and would have had a maximum speed of about 40mph. The operator could not have been more than 20 miles away therefore.
The visual screen signal from the operator to the drone would have been extremely weak at 20 miles and would probably have been lost. A good clear signal would have to have the operator within about maximum 8 miles.
The drone was therefore operated within the Moscow area, had a small explosiive device attached and was steered by the operator via the screen on his control deviice.
The drone attack was therefore done for optics more than actual damage or assasination. The drone flew past the flag pole. It hit nothing at all but exploded, via a remote operator. If the drone had descended any further in its trajectory, the explosion would have been hidden from sight and therefore less spectacular.
This is IMO
Posted by: HERMIUS | May 3 2023 22:57 utc | 218
Bejesus, this thread appears to have metastasised.
I’m keeping clear , till b has something surgical to say.
Good luck to these caught up in here. Laters.
Posted by: DunGroanin | May 3 2023 23:07 utc | 219
” That, and how many times are the Europeans going to invade Russia without being prepared for the cold weather?
Posted by: Jmaas | May 3 2023 22:17 utc | 201 ”
– Polish–Muscovite War (1605–1618) –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Muscovite_War_(1605%E2%80%931618)
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 23:08 utc | 220
Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 21:46 utc | 185
Similar metal/rubber shoe construct as the Gerard hull is from the Leopard I. If you notice in footage of them operating in Ukraine, the crews have removed the side skirts. It beggars belief that even the clowns running this shit-show couldn’t do some basic homework about the effect mud, especially the viscous Ukrainian variety, has on partially encased track systems. Actually, no it doesn’t as they seem to team up Bradley’s, specifically designed to keep pace with modern MBT’s, with 60 year old T-55’s and think having five main-gun round types is a sensible logistical solution.
Posted by: Milites | May 3 2023 23:11 utc | 221
Gepard, my auto correct does not like German spellings.
Posted by: Milites | May 3 2023 23:12 utc | 222
West of England Andy ha ha ha
We’re on a roll tonight this thread just writes itself !
Yes poor princes di, never desererved all the shit charlys family put her through,
She campaigned aganst the use of anti personnel mines as you know, wonder what she’d make of the petal mines in Donesk.
So when charly married di he had a mistress, the now queen Camilla.
It’s like the bloody Jerry Springer show with that royal family only worse .(god rest his soul)
An while we’re about it, the now king of England was reported as saying he wished he was queen cammilas (then his mistress) sanitary towel.
Buck pal….
Consider ya selves metaphorically drones by mark2.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2023 23:13 utc | 223
I knew or guessed that there would be war over Ukraine because I had read the history textbooks published in the UK since 1865. “The great game” I was told was to keep the enormous Russian Empire from acquiring a warm water port, which could challenge the British/American domination of the oceans. So I expected that Putin would do everything necessary to hold crimea at risk of his position and/or life. I do think that the whole idea of the importance of sea power is a bit dated, but there is plenty of evidence of generals/admirals re-fighting old battles, so I expected that the Russian military would regard Sevastopol as indivisible from Russian military security.
I also hold unpopular views on Putin whom I regard as a realist, who plays a long game, and avoids risk. Going to war is inherently risky, and Putin is fighting a cautious war, to the degree possible. I underestimated how cautious he was, when he pulled back, or allowed Russia to be pushed back from the initial surge to surround Kiev. Since then Russia has dug in and is fighting Ukraine as if it is the aggressor besieging Russia. The result maximises Ukrainian losses and minimises Russian ones. Ukraine seems determined to frame its goals in terms of winning back Ukrainian territory, and all Russia must do is to put up sufficient resistance to deny that outcome. Putin can keep this up for very long time.
The Polish General is right in pointing out that this approach gives Russia the advantage in a long war. But the endless talk of ammunition shortages for Ukraine must surely be wrong. Manufacturing the thousands of tons of munitions needed in this war and to replenish NATO stocks requires a factory or factories on a railway far from the front line. Suitable buildings are everywhere, and easily found. Suitable labour is a more difficult challenge but modern militaries are full of people with little urgent to do, so this too should be solvable, and a additional $10 per hour would solve most remaining problems. It would make sense for many reasons to keep this quiet so I expect the authorities have, and these factories are already up and working. Peace will not be achieved by starving it of firepower.
Putin already published the terms for peace in December 2022. I expect that he will be ready to end the war as soon as NATO are prepared to accept his quite reasonable terms. Don’t hold your breath.
Posted by: Blackeyebart | May 3 2023 23:23 utc | 225
unimperator @ 218
China still relies heavily on exports to the west. After the west needs to use the BRICS system to buy their stuff, China is free to do whatever they want.
What people across the spectrum seem to ignore is that China buys a whole big ass ton of stuff from the RoW, including the EU and the USA, from the west it’s high value, high margin products like Mercedes Benz cars and iPhones – a whole lot of them.
Even at the highest geopolitical level like the White House this point is missed, hence the chip sanctions fiasco that collapsed the western owned chip market, China is the world’s biggest buyer of chips they buy many time, millions of times, more chips than they export, they put them in finished goods most made for western owned companies. This plays out all across the global economy with many more things than chips.
I think it’s a combination of racism and supremacism and the George Bush Sr. in the supermarket syndrome who in 1990 had never seen a bar code scanner – he didn’t get out in the real world much. Too many people from a cab driver to highest policy levels still think the Chinese economy is only exports of cheap toys, plastic dish racks, and dollar store tools that break after an hour. They have no idea how much their economy depends on the Chinese buying things.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 23:24 utc | 226
Posted by: shadowbanned | May 3 2023 22:53 utc | 217
I suggest you look up the doctrinal differences between NATO and Russian AD, especially the reason why the West rely so heavily on AWACS.; then look up the proven capabilities of Russian AD systems, before commenting.
As for Pantsir launchers in Moscow, firing SAM’s in heavily urban areas is a recipe for disaster, as the Ukrainians have repeatedly found. Doing it with a gun missile combo would be criminally stupid.
Posted by: Milites | May 3 2023 23:26 utc | 227
Posted by: HERMIUS | May 3 2023 22:57 utc | 219
Interesting to get a professional opinion, so propaganda spectacular or false-flag op?
Posted by: Milites | May 3 2023 23:29 utc | 228
I just now reminded myself that every day that Ukraine waits to launch its counter-attack, Russia outproduces it in every armament I can think of, and efficiently ships that to the stockpiles near the front lines.
More air defense missiles, more artillery barrels and artillery pieces, more shells for the tanks and the artillery, more mortars, more ammo for the machine guns, more mines, more barbed wire, more rations, more electricity generators, and so on.
As long as the Russian lines at most only bend, and in a few places narrowly break in a controlled and planned upon manner, then the attacking Ukrainians will have to fight as if they were all Achilles, just to tread water.
And I think this waiting is forcing on the AFU counter-attack forces a draw-down in its strength, as they send some of their best soldiers to go get destroyed in Bakhmut and other areas, rather than retreat from them, and its forces that are assembled and waiting get relentlessly attacked by munitions coming down from the air.
It’s a situation that’s similar to the one Martin Sheen’s character described in the beginning of Apocalypse Now; he’s “still only in Saigon” while the NVA and Viet Cong grew stronger by the day.
Zelenskyy is flittering about abroad, his army sits exposed to attacks on its depots, and the Russian factories keep adding to the firepower of those on the front line.
Hotelroom Freakout Scene – Apocalypse Now
https://youtu.be/LXL5_tc8UyY
Posted by: Babel-17 | May 3 2023 23:29 utc | 229
Nathan in WA US | May 3 2023 22:14 utc | 199–
I was thinking about the entire album’
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Sputnik has this article on the drone op, “Kiev’s Terrorist Attack on Kremlin Sets Dangerous Global Precedent”, the title suggesting how Russia might use it as one of those interviewed suggests:
“This story is related to international terrorism,” Alexander Mikhailov, head of the Bureau of Military-Political Analysis, told Sputnik.
“The fact is that Ukraine is already openly positioning itself as a terrorist state, which is covered up by the collective West, primarily by Washington and Brussels. And with such support, [the Kiev regime] calmly arranges such terrorist acts of sabotage, using the simplest and most modern method for this, that is, buying these products in the West and equipping them with the necessary amount of explosive, and then sending them on a particular course.”…
“It is necessary to inform the other side and, above all, Washington, that [drones] may soon fly to the White House too,” said Mikhailov. “This is a very serious matter. It is related to international terrorism and those who are [sponsoring and] covering it up.”
Mikhailov does not rule out that the collective West would try to play down the incident or turn a blind eye to the terrorist attack altogether. That’s why Russia needs to discuss the matter with its numerous partners and key powers, as well as with BRICS, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and other international entities, according to the expert.
“We should explain: ‘Tomorrow they will arrange sabotages in Beijing, in Delhi, in other states, in other developed economies of the world,’ because those who want to maintain their dominance feel that they are falling down; so they are clinging to power, they have already resorted to the meanest methods, pulling the strings of these satellites and their other subordinate states,” Mikhailov said.
As I’ve mentioned several times on this forum, the SCO’s security component is Anti-Terrorism, and I’ve suggested before that the SCO could act against the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals using that as its reason. And on cue, Lavrov will take part in a meeting of the SCO Council of Foreign Ministers in India on May 4-5. There’s long been a no-fly zone established over the Empire’s White House, but no AD is stationed on it capable of defeating drones. The same is likely true for most national capitals. I agree with the headline and Mr. Mikhailov that this incident creates a dangerous precedent, which cancels its being labeled a propaganda stunt, which is likely one that wasn’t at all thought through.
Weeb Union has a very short update video this evening which he says shows some “fireworks’ above Bahkmut. He clarifies this to be thermite bombs. The flammable thermite content of Russia’s incendiary bombs burns at 2,200C, and can burn human flesh right down to the bone. SouthFront had a video I saw a day ago showing the effects of this weapon. Flesh was burnt from the remains of the soldiers who were sheltered in what appeared to be a destroyed factory. One skull had the top shattered open. This reminded me of a story I read some years back by a visitor to an Eastern realm. The Muslim king would have his political opponents thrown into a furnace. He would always stay by the door of the furnace until he heard a ‘pop’ sound come from within. This, he explained, was the sound of the boiling brain blowing up the skull of the victim.
Posted by: Quid Me Vexare | May 3 2023 23:35 utc | 231
“Mikhailov does not rule out that the collective West would try to play down the incident or turn a blind eye to the terrorist attack altogether.”
The West will do neither. The West will celebrate the attack.
Posted by: malenkov | May 3 2023 23:36 utc | 232
Interesting to get a professional opinion, so propaganda spectacular or false-flag op?
Posted by: Milites | May 3 2023 23:29 utc | 228
“Propoganda spectacular” IMO. Designed to embarass the kremlin and strike fear into people for the upcoming victory parades.
Posted by: HERMIUS | May 3 2023 23:40 utc | 233
That may have been Pavlograd, the ammunition ware house bombing.
Posted by: donten | May 3 2023 23:41 utc | 234
W of E @ 216 ‘.. and how come Zelensky didn’t get an invite???’
Probably because he would ask for the crown jewels to be sold and used to buy tanks. No price is too high to protect freedom and democracy.
Posted by: dh | May 3 2023 23:44 utc | 235
not sure if it’s come up yet but two canadians played a stupid game and got a stupid prize.
“Two Canadians have been killed in action around the fiercely contested Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, with one of them telling CBC News before his death that the conditions on the front line were like a ‘meat grinder‘.”
i’ve seen that term many, many, maaaany times here and on other pro-russian (or pro-ish) sites. first time i’ve seen it in an MSM report. i guess it took a fellow canadian to “translate” it for them.
Posted by: the pair | May 3 2023 23:47 utc | 236
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 22:06 utc | 194
Sorry, not following. Are you saying Putin is not trying to keep a lid on escalation?
Because the question was not “are neocons afraid of Russia”. The question was “why do people assume Russia would retaliate against EU vs US?”. Iow, it’s about fear of psychotic neocons vs toothless vassals.
As far as fear of Russia, its something the neocons are learning in real time.
Posted by: Mary | May 4 2023 0:07 utc | 237
Posted by: Jerr | May 3 2023 22:20 utc | 205
Does your flight of fantasy come straight from Tel Aviv or Brooklyn? Israel IMPORTS 99% of it’s oil , it exported 10 BCM of Natural Gas last year, a year the EU imported 412BCM. Get a grip.
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | May 4 2023 0:29 utc | 238
@young #18…Quite correct. Read about Genghis Khan’s strategies, or Lao Tzu. The lawyer Putin has studied Lao Tzu.
@paxmarks1 #45…Yes. Why cause the replacement of a very bad manager that you are at war with? His elimination could only make it better for the Ukros.
@Matthew #17 and Loncal #8…The lawyer Putin won’t be distracted from the SMO goal. The rest of the world – minus the feckless leaders in the west – are keenly observing his measured approach and joining the BRICS fan club
Posted by: Richard Whitney | May 4 2023 0:31 utc | 239
“Assasination attempt on Putin’s life” my arse!
3kgs x 2 drones 15 minites apart into a 5 acre building made of stone in which you have no fkn idea which room your target is in or even if he’s at home is total spin and bullshit by everyone (including the Russians) who uses the phrase. Give me a fkn break.
It’s just Ukrainian optics and childish provocation. They’ll get their retaliation where it REALLY MATTERS, on the battlefield.
Posted by: The Dolphin | May 4 2023 0:40 utc | 240
malenkov | May 3 2023 21:05 utc | 163
Dimes + Hal Turner …hysterical bovine excrement, I could have bought First Republic Bank all by myself.
Thanks. Yep.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 0:42 utc | 241
……want to check for myself…
Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 21:52 utc | 188
You’re hitting sixes off every delivery today m8.
😂
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 0:45 utc | 242
Mark2 | May 3 2023 22:00 utc | 192
This sloSMO is *not* the war “they” planned.
Z. Is doing his best, but the script keeps changing.
Go back to Russia Munich Security Conference of Feb 22.
His standing ovation. The love and lionising.
“They” had a very very different war planned.
They’ve ended up with what is basically a land war with Russia in Europe.
What’s the first sentence of the first chapter of the war manual?
Never fight a land war with Russia in Europe.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 4 2023 0:52 utc | 243
karlof1 #230
Yes! Right after posting I remembered not only the song there was an album with that name. I think the last time I played Def Leppard was sometime late 90’s early 2000’s, been a while! Thanks for the flashback! 🙂
Posted by: Quid Me Vexare | May 3 2023 23:35 utc | 231
TOS thermobaric fuel air bombs. Definitely something you do not want to be caught in the periphery of, where whoosh-kaboooooom, you are fried from the inside-out!
Posted by: nathan in WA US | May 4 2023 0:53 utc | 244
Some videos for today.
Odessa massacre — Nine years on:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/ODESSA_MASSACRE_0205:f
Moment Kiev regime drone destroyed over Kremlin in failed terrorist attack:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/UAV_Kremlin_0305:6
Russian strikes recently destroyed a Kiev regime ammunition depot in Pavlograd:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/pavlograd_1:5
Russia’s ‘Tulip’ self-propelled mortar in action:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Tulip_0305:1
Russian Su-35 aircraft in action as part of the special military operation:
https://odysee.com/@SputnikInternational:c/2023-05-03-09.18.06:e
Russian self-propelled howitzer pounds enemy position:
https://rutube.ru/video/fda77ea3c8fa2b0a3f83ef38d63cad11/
Posted by: Nate | May 4 2023 1:00 utc | 245
Regarding the attack on the Kremlin.
The Klingons have a saying. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | May 4 2023 1:07 utc | 246
Peter AU1 52
That was one of the Naked Gun movies. I can’t recall if it was THE NAKED GUN, THE NAKED GUN 2&1/2, or THE NAKED GUN 33&1/3, THE FINAL INSULT.
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | May 4 2023 1:18 utc | 247
SwissArmyMan | May 4 2023 0:29 utc | 238
I’ll save your post and remind you in a few years.
Posted by: Jerr | May 4 2023 1:18 utc | 248
We don’t have sufficient info to decide if this was an attack by Ukraine or a Russian false flag operation. Smart people, the kind we rely on, will look into it. What’s interesting (and unsurprising) is that Media that’s as clueless as me immediately took a side e.g., a CBS news report began by labelling Russia’s position as a “wild accusation”.
For better optics, Russia should have described it as an attack on the Kremlin (and thus Russia) instead of personifying it as an assassination attempt. Additionally, this is war so it looks silly to call it a terrorist attack. Considering what’s happening in Bakhmut, and the state of forthcoming offensives, this drone explosion seems trivial. However, Russia’s physical response to it, whether it was real or not, may be more telling.
Ukraine may have been attempting to make a hole in the Kremlin roof which would have been visible to the Public attending the May 9 Moscow Victory Day Parade. Surprisingly, even CNN said that.
What’s clearly bullshit is Zelensky claiming that Ukraine doesn’t make attacks on Russian soil (tell that to border towns). It further emphasises how the U.S.A. bizarrely pulls the strings ’cause Ukraine would be the first country at war to never want to attack where the enemy come from.
Posted by: Mike Hampton | May 4 2023 1:24 utc | 249
This feels like the strange events leading up to 9-11. Remember Massoud’s assassination? Plenty of US mainstream and social media purged, an assassination campaign by Ukraine, and US placing nuke sensors is all related to Newsweek’s trial balloon of NATO “peacekeepers” in Lviv. Just add a “State Crime Against Democracy,” or false flag, and voila.
The UAF offensive is just window dressing to crossing east from Poland-Romania.
Someone’s preparing the battle space.
Posted by: Talleyrand | May 4 2023 1:27 utc | 250
@AI | May 3 2023 17:07 utc | 7
How do you know that it wasn’t the Romulans who blew up NS1 and NS2? Or Klingons? US isn’t the only suspect!
Posted by: barstool | May 4 2023 1:30 utc | 251
#243
never fight a land war
with russia in europe.
true, true
this historical reality
has been forgotten.
it will be re-learned
Posted by: Dingo | May 4 2023 1:34 utc | 252
Posted by: Jerr | May 4 2023 1:18 utc | 248
As old as I am I won’t be around to see Israel become an oil and gas giant, the very idea brings on giggles.
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | May 4 2023 1:35 utc | 253
The critical data point regarding the drone attack on the Kremlin is the size of the explosive payload. It was too small to do major damage, so if the UK did it, it was a propaganda stunt.
On the other hand, if Russia was to conduct a false-flag operation, it too would not use a large explosive. Russia only needs to be able to say they were attacked to use the event to justify an asymmetrical retaliation.
So cost-benefit (cui bono) is the proper way to evaluate the incident.
Is the perceived propaganda value greater than the expected Russian retaliation? I suppose, if UK has a death-wish. Russia also gains (some) propaganda value and can also now justify a large retaliatory strike.
False-flag is my judgement.
Posted by: Longhorn | May 4 2023 1:42 utc | 254
“We don’t have sufficient info to decide if this was an attack by Ukraine or a Russian false flag operation.”
Oh YES WE DO
Ukranians said they will attack Moscow around May 9 (the Patriotic War holiday)
Not just random Ukranians. But OFFICIAL ADVISORS TO THE COMEDIAN.
They confessed just like Joe Tzu confessed to bombing Nordstream.
Anyone who claims to think it was not Ukraine is just fooling themselves.
Posted by: Comandante | May 4 2023 1:44 utc | 255
Posted by: Comandante | May 4 2023 1:44 utc | 255
Perhaps, but if you were UK, wouldn’t you do it a little closer to May 9th?
Posted by: Longhorn | May 4 2023 1:48 utc | 256
To the false-flag believers [drone attack], consider the murders of Darya Dugan (in Moscow) and Vladlen Tatarsky (in St. Petersburg).
Russian leadership would prefer to see threats as coming from outside Russia than from inside. I would figure this to be a fact. So…
Internally launched drone (one of this site’s numerous posters presented the facts on this [above]). That means a false-flag could very well be considered. But seeing the other killings I mentioned above (and then there’s the attack on the Crimea bridge) I see this as likely being another Ukrainian “terrorist” action.
Posted by: Seer | May 4 2023 2:02 utc | 257
US/Uki/Nato created a fake false flag, so that when the real bigger false flag by US/Uki/Nato actually happens, they could blame Russia.
Posted by: in_Oz | May 4 2023 2:06 utc | 258
The only question is whether the Nazis and CIA will let him live long enough to land that gig.
Posted by: William Gruff | May 3 2023 19:12 utc | 101
They won’t. Not a hope in hell.
Posted by: Palmasailor | May 4 2023 2:16 utc | 259
I watched the video, especially the color of the explosion, and wonder: was that drone loaded with fireworks, to get nice video footage?
Posted by: Passerby | May 3 2023 19:21 utc | 108
It was the tactical equivalent of a bit of balsa wood with an elastic band powered propellor. It was flung in the air by the Russians who shot it down with colourful big bang fireworks and the whole episode was to give them an excuse to escalate against Kiev – if they choose to – or contain domestic public opinion.
No way anything serious got past Russian air defences that close to the nerve centre.
Posted by: PalmaSailor | May 4 2023 2:22 utc | 260
@Norwegian | May 3 2023 17:33 utc | 25
When asked by Bennett if he was going to kill Zelenski, Putin stated that he wouldn’t. He knew that because he had no intention to kill any foreign political leader. I believe that his statement holds. Make the other country take out their own trash. It’s a good principle.
I haven’t heard if the Russians have learned whether the drones appear to be from Ukraine. Even being a model used by Ukraine wouldn’t prove that it came from Ukraine because they buy models off-the-shelf and modify them. If it was one modified in Ukraine, the use in Russia might not have been authorized by Zelenski. Could one of the Ukrainian generals have used it to try to have Zelenski killed so that he could take over the government of Ukraine?
I have no ethical problem with killing politicians for the same reasons that would justify killing others, but I don’t think that it is generally a good idea. In this specific case, Zelenski is just an actor playing a part. Does anybody credit him with actually being able to plan or execute a plan? He emots and repeats mimorized lines. (I’ve read that he enjoys doing lines.)
I think that Putin will keep the high ground by taking the high road. Ukraine will run aground faster with Zelenski acting like he has the helm.
Posted by: barstool | May 4 2023 2:42 utc | 261
« typos typos typos as the worms wriggle out of the woodwork. Featherless with its concern trolling. Trans trolls. I guess I am a little past diplomacy. »
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2023 18:21 utc | 60
I didn’t even post on this thread. But I suppose I could try and be even quieter…
Posted by: Featherless | May 4 2023 2:48 utc | 262
I doubt it was a false flag because it was so minor. Surely they would want something more impressive then those two tiny drones. Most likely some hardware they could get smuggled into Russia owing to its small size. Something that came all the way from Ukraine would surely be bigger and more potent.
Posted by: Jmaas | May 4 2023 2:49 utc | 263
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | May 4 2023 1:35 utc | 253
I know what you mean. It wasn’t that long ago Israel was fighting for oil land and blackmailing Arab states to ensure a supply of oil even in war.
It’s only a matter of time before a pipeline conecting the Eastern Med gas fields of Israel to EU are built even though West now says then oppose it. The Golan oil will be developed as soon as they can steal enough water to develop the immense ground oil reserves. The the EU will be fed an energy gruel of natural gas water mixed with ground oil. The German chemical industries will not survive.
So many lives for a share of the EU oil and natural gas market. Sinful.
It’s only a matter of time.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/bp-transfer-assets-into-new-east-med-venture-with-adnoc-2023-05-02/
Posted by: Jerr | May 4 2023 2:56 utc | 264
MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:07 utc | 97
Kinzal capability is now well known. The optics attack on the Kremlin…. the Brits? I suspect the comedians handlers feel he now has more value dead than alive.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 3:16 utc | 265
That last comment was not supposed to be addressed to anyone
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 3:26 utc | 266
Talleyrand@250…..I believe it’s called shaping the battle field….. Kinzhals be like that.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 4 2023 3:40 utc | 268
Israeli oil and and gas. They shipped their first oil tanker full to EU in March and getting ready for lng.
They don’t care what trained monkey stands by the organ grinder and turns the handle.
Posted by: Jerr | May 3 2023 22:20 utc | 205
To be sure it’s Lebanese oil and gas as per the agreement between Tel Aviv and Beruit.
Posted by: Exile | May 4 2023 4:01 utc | 269
Legitimate
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have finally received a huge amount of components for Chinese and other UAVs for long-distance flights to attack infrastructure. The sponsor was the British lobby, which benefits from continuing the conflict.
They started hitting oil depots. At the moment, this is not critical for the Russian Federation, but if there are a hundred times more such strikes, this will add some nuances to the internal case, especially against the background of the upcoming elections in the Russian Federation.
Now this is more of a PR campaign for the President’s Office, which is trying to shift the focus from postponing the offensive to local situational victories. After all, there are hundreds of such arrivals in Ukraine every day, they were simply forbidden to write and talk about them.
According to our data, the whole of Europe/The Vatican wants to freeze the conflict, like the US is ready, but only the British are categorically against it (London has not achieved its goal – the complete collapse of the EU and the emergence of a new union with the primacy of Poland, plus many more economic issues, especially since British TNCs make excellent money on the sanctions case).
https://t.me/s/legitimniy
MI6 and the Brits feature prominently in the Ukie telegram channels. The Brits appear desperate to keep the US in the war against Russia. A bit foolish when just one torpedo can wash away their little island.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 4:06 utc | 270
Peter (@270),
I wonder whether the Brits feel that the US owes them for the Brit’s supporting the US’s invasion of Iraq.
Posted by: Seer | May 4 2023 4:31 utc | 271
Monkywerx just posted a new tube. Starting @ 07:15,last few days 66 c-17s were recorded bringing equipment to usa ports for overseas shipment.Poland and Germany,also very popular destinations for usa originating flights. More meat for the grinder?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aV77LYJ8Fy8
Posted by: Ancient Times | May 4 2023 4:34 utc | 272
@14, Peter AU1, Abominable Snowman? Thanks b for this site. It can’t be easy for you. And everyone else who has contributed. As most of you know, I’m a sarcastic bastard who is watching the world die. Cheers mates!
Posted by: Immaculate deception | May 4 2023 4:35 utc | 273
The IAEA confirms Russia has placed explosives near Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant Unit 4″ – Ukraine
There was a landmine explosion near the plant in late April according to the IAEA
The IAEA has also been tracking Russian military equipment at Unit 2 since the summer
Many potential catalysts for a disaster remain. The IAEA passed this info on to Ukraine’s State Atomic Regulation body”
anybody else somewhat skeptical about their lactluster performance, can identify a landmine explosion from months ago but couldnt tell a thing when artillery and missiles were landing on their head
Posted by: hankster | May 4 2023 4:57 utc | 274
Ukrainian dictator Volodymyr Zelenskyj has made a surprise trip to the Netherlands. Late in the evening, coming from Helsinki, he landed at Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport on a Dutch government plane, according to several media reports.
It is the first visit of the dictator to the Netherlands. The dictator was reportedly scheduled to meet with Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren in The Hague this Thursday. He is also scheduled to deliver a speech in The Hague titled “No Peace Without Justice for Ukraine.”
A visit to the International Criminal Court in The Hague is also planned, according to media reports.
The Dutch should immediately arrest the dictator Volodymyr Zelenskyj and try him right there!
Posted by: MarinusVanDerLubbe | May 4 2023 5:16 utc | 275
Posted by: Exile | May 4 2023 4:01 utc | 269
It’s from the Kardish field which Israel and Lebanon divided between them. The article below says its Israeli oil.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-exports-crude-oil-for-first-time-with-shipment-heading-for-europe/
Posted by: Jerr | May 4 2023 5:26 utc | 276
Results of night strikes on critical facilities in Ukraine
That night, our missiles and “Geraniums” attacked the objects of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kiev, Odessa, Zaporozhye and the Dnepropetrovsk region.
▪️ An air raid alert was announced in Kyiv and 13 regions of Nezalezhnaya.
▪️ It is reported that the target in Odessa was the military academy, and in Kiev the Arsenal plant (refers to the enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine).
▪️ The head of the Dnepropetrovsk region, Serhiy Lysak, reported on the destruction and fire at one of the industrial enterprises in the capital of the region.
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1653996518108459008
Posted by: unimperator | May 4 2023 5:40 utc | 277
Posted by: Babel-17 | May 3 2023 23:29 utc | 229
It is a deliberate strategy to let Nato/Ukraine come east of the Dnieper, where the best possible advantages are for the Russsian side. From more friendly population to better logistics to easier tracking of weapon stockpiles, etc. They are working really hard to put an end, or at least severely weaken any offensive before it begins.
I do think the battles east of Dnieper will define the fate of a large portion of entire Ukraine, including west of Dniepr and west of the Bug river. Nato can’t be allowed to remain in any significant part of Ukraine, lest there will be another nazi platform growing.
Posted by: unimperator | May 4 2023 5:53 utc | 278
Seer | May 4 2023 4:31 utc | 271
That hatred of the British elite for Russia…. others have put in thoughts but I have never found a reason that for me really sticks.
UK appears to be single minded on attacking Russia whereas US has factions that want to bomb various countries. Iran, China ect.
UK working with the anti Russia faction in the US easily leads the American donkey in the desired direction. That became clear with the ‘dossiers’.
Perhaps the Brits don’t even know why they hate Russia. The privy council thinking it is somehow still relevant as in the empire where the sun never sets? Camelot comes to mind.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 5:56 utc | 279
Featherless/Marc | May 4 2023 2:48 utc | 262
I have been sleeping too much and not drinking enough the last few days. My mistake.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 6:03 utc | 280
unimperator | May 4 2023 5:53 utc | 278
For some reason your post brought to mind the era we are in. Who in 1914 would have predicted the world order of 2019. Who in 1939, would have predicted the world order of 1945.
We now watch as the world goes through much greater change. Power moving from the west back to the east. Great power conflict fought within the confines of nuclear Armageddon.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 6:15 utc | 281
Seer | May 4 2023 4:31 utc | 271
You perhaps need to read Rudyard Kipling’s Kim. Aside from being a wonderful description of India, from an imperialist perspective, it shows Britain’s paranoia about Russia, even though the Great Game was well and trully finished by the time the book came out. Russian agents and assassins roaming the Himalayas, and trying to kill you in train stations. Kind of ironic that Philby got his nickname from the eponymous hero.
Posted by: Technophobe | May 4 2023 6:46 utc | 282
One reason I as an Englander whole heartedly support Russia.
. The west nowadays is totaly fake.
The pop music has become a sedative for the young, meaningless comercalised drivel.
The TV ditto.
The news reporting ‘fake’ not least by ommission.
Political partys fake, the lot of them.
Fake jobs for a fake wage.
Fake NHS.
Yes this is on topic for this thread.
Becouse we now have a fake war perpetrated against an innocent country… Russia.
And this fake war could get us all killed and our planet utterly destroyed, along with our poor deluded family’s and friends.
The truth about that drone matters as does the N2 pipe line ectra.
The truth and reality is something we all should be prepared to fight for.
It hearteneds me that I don’t carry this burden alone..I’m looking at you b and all good MOA commenters.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 4 2023 6:49 utc | 283
⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the #SMO for 3 May 2023⚡️
⚡️ The RF Armed Forces used Geran-2 kamikaze drones to target military and industrial targets in #Dnepropetrovsk, #Konstantinovka, #Zaporozhye, #Kirovograd, as well as in the #Kiev, #Nikolayev, #Cherkassy and #Sumy regions during the night.
🔹#Russia’s Hinterland:
▪️ In #Moscow, two Ukrainian UAVs attacked the #Kremlin residence of the Russian president. One of the drones exploded over the dome of the Senate building, wreckage of the second UAV fell in the #Kremlin grounds.
▪️ In the #Krasnodar edge, Ukrainian drones attacked an oil depot in #Volna village, Temryuk region. One of the UAVs was intercepted on approach, while the second one crashed onto a fuel tanker. A major fire broke out at the facility.
🔹#Russia’s Border Areas:
▪️ In the #Bryansk region, five Ukrainian drones attacked the military airfield near #Seshcha village.Two UAVs exploded at the facility, damaging an AN-124 aircraft that was not in service.
▪️ In the #Kursk region, the AFU terrorists shelled #Tetkino village for the second time in the last two days. 15 residential houses, a gas pipeline, a power transmission line and a clinic building have been damaged.
🔹 #Starobelsk (#Svatovo) Direction:
▪️ In the #Kupyansk sector, artillery duels and mutual reconnaissance continue along the entire line of contact.
▪️ In the #Liman sector, units of the RF Armed Forces are engaged in positional battles near #Makeyevka and Balka Zhuravka.
🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction:
▪️ In the western outskirts of #Bakhmut, units of the Wagner PMC have expanded their zone of control along Pobeda Street.
➖ At the same time, the storming of enemy strongholds on the Liberators of Donbass Street continues.
▪️ Ukrainian command moves additional forces to the frontline and increases the intensity of artillery fire.
🔹#Donetsk Direction (MAP):
▪️ In #Maryinka, fighting continues in the private sector after the breakthrough of the AFU defence near Druzhba Avenue. The enemy is forced to redeploy additional forces to stabilize the frontline.
➖ On the southern outskirts of the town, Russian units pushed through the AFU defence and entered the territory of Gorgaz.
▪️ The Ukrainian terrorist formations once again shelled the #Donetsk agglomeration: Civilian infrastructure was damaged in the Petrovsky district of the DPR capital.
➖ #Mospino, #Yakovlevka, #Stepnoye and #Gorlovka have also been hit. Two people were wounded and several houses have been damaged.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In the #Orekhov section, Ukrainian units supported by armoured vehicles attempted an offensive. The Russians dispersed the advancing enemy grouping with targeted artillery fire. At least four pieces of equipment have been destroyed.
🔹#Kherson Direction on #SouthFront:
▪️ Russian forces launched strikes against accumulations of AFU personnel in #Tyaginka, #Tokarevka and #Kherson, and used guided aerial bombs on identified targets in #Kizomys.
➖ In turn, the Ukrainian terrorists shelled civilian facilities on the left bank of #Kherson region. Residential buildings in #Alyoshki, #Kakhovka and Nova Kakhovka among others came under attack.
🔸Political and other Events:
▪️ The #US announced a new $300 million military aid package for #Ukraine, which will include 155mm howitzers, HIMARS missiles and Hydra 70 unguided aviation missiles, among others.
▪️ Finnish President Sauli Niinisto said at a meeting with Zelensky that his country will not hand over its fighter jets until it receives the F-35.
▪️ #Ukraine’s Culture Minister Aleksandr Tkachenko said the Verkhovna Rada has passed a bill simplifying the process of dismantling monuments linked to the Russian empire and Soviet heritage.
▪️ In order to conceal the movement of equipment and personnel in #Kherson, a 24-hour curfew is introduced from 8pm on 5 May to 6am on 8 May. According to the authorities, it will be forbidden to move and stay on the city streets for 58 hours.
Posted by: Down South | May 4 2023 6:49 utc | 284
The Ukrainian military said that the “white ticket” that allows you to leave the country costs about $4-6 thousand.
But, and if you have already received a summons, then this can also be “resolved”. The delay will cost $2,000.
The fighter also notes that military registration and enlistment offices, military medical commissions, the Shlyakh system, which allows you to leave the country, all work in a single bundle.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/17595
Posted by: Down South | May 4 2023 6:54 utc | 285
HERMIUS #219
Thank you. Every image I saw of the bang and the rooftop reeked of an overblown toy prank. I figured it definitely did not come from 100+kms away.
However the Kremlin prank in addition to the derailment of trains plus regular arrests I see on telegram does indicate a high level of sabotage teams in operation. Another good reason for Russia to refrain from advancing too far too fast before consolidating the country they hold.
Certainly Russia has some excellent spotters and informers throughout nazi occupied Ukraine given the gps accuracy fed into their missiles. The demilitarisation rolls on.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 4 2023 6:56 utc | 286
There is a hypothesis that the so-called Ukrainian offensive is planned for the May holidays, that is, for the very next few days.
An appropriate informational background is created for it, such as harmless, but morally sensitive strikes on the roofs of the Kremlin and minor sabotage throughout the country. Probably, for the sake of this, they specifically strained the entire existing network of agents.
When the actions of the troops begin, the warmed-up public will perceive even the smallest successes of the Ukrainians as “boss, everything is lost,” leaks, leaks, betrayal, defeat.
Since such news partially reaches the troops, then at the local level, any retreat can be perceived as a flight with corresponding results. The consequences are clear. Raids of Ukrainians across the old border of the Russian Federation can become a separate case of panic.
Obviously, in the coming days, one should maintain information hygiene and not give in to panic. No enemy successes can affect the course of the SMO as much as instability in the rear.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/44500
Posted by: Down South | May 4 2023 6:57 utc | 287
uncle tungsten | May 4 2023 6:56 utc | 286
UK doing what UK does best. Place both hands over your arse to deflect surprise attacks. Perfidious Albion.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 7:04 utc | 288
Peter AU1 #279
Perhaps the Brits don’t even know why they hate Russia.
Envy.
The UK Crown and its toffs covet the Russian jewellery and despise their magnificent jewellers, their extraordinary perfection of ceramics especially porcelain, their vast lands and their indomitable army and navy, their potential to be a better trading partner with Europe as the englanders have little to trade and after Thatcher – nil of any real necessity to the Russians. Plus the Russian women are beautiful and yet the Czars were happy for their daughter to marry European Princes but never the english.
Perhaps the englanders are no match for the Russians at any class. I guess the Russian mafia is even wealthier, tougher, more intransigent than nasty little buffoons like the the Kray twins or the yiddishers. Here is a peek.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 4 2023 7:12 utc | 289
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2023 18:21 utc | 60
Time for lithium.
You can tell how rattled the cages are by how irritable everyone is here. A lot of people made uncomfortable by dissonance
Posted by: Old Fart Legion | May 4 2023 7:18 utc | 291
Down South #285
Buying a white ticket.
What’s the chance that BlackRock or some enterprising banker is providing loans to assist.
There’s a opening for Hunter and team and I guess its all set up anyway.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 4 2023 7:19 utc | 292
The Firm. I doubt king ponce’s circle could fight like them. But I watched something far better at the Richmond races in 78. No hammers required.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 7:28 utc | 293
Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 19:48 utc | 123
Oh boy, reporting on what someone else said sourcelessly.
top stuff
Posted by: Old Fart Legion | May 4 2023 7:30 utc | 294
Monkywerx just posted a new tube. Starting @ 07:15,last few days 66 c-17s were recorded bringing equipment to usa ports for overseas shipment.Poland and Germany,also very popular destinations for usa originating flights. More meat for the grinder?
Posted by: Ancient Times | May 4 2023 4:34 utc | 272
As the new Syria, Russia will get bombed over the borders like Israel bombs Syria anytime they please but probably Belarus, the only buffer (Ukr was lost as a buffer and since Donbass is Russia now, they have no buffer at all on that side) will be hit first by its own fake opposition, so it looks like a civil war. Like in Sudan, the latest Russian failure. Then, after weapons and missiles are in place up to Finland and dumbo Shoigu moves 5 soldiers near the borders, preparing for artillery duels, their infrastructure will get bombed with no fear like NS or Crimea bridge or Engels. The Kremlin attack, like the previous terrorist attacks and assassinations, are just so Russians get used to living in Syria and accept it as the new normal. A few years later internal collapse is guaranteed, no losses for US, exactly like the 80s before 90s. Remember when a dude landed in Red Square and the Shoigus and Gerasimovs of that time didn’t see him? Now history repeats itself with drones with bombs, it’s modern times.
Posted by: rk | May 4 2023 7:35 utc | 295
I’m getting bad. The last was reply to uncle t.
Old fart. We sit and watch. Olde ye Europe perplexed within gaydumb. Yanks flying the rainbow flag. The stages of empire. And degeneracy.
Now I just sleep and drink. Too much sleeping and not enough drinking.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 7:41 utc | 296
@ rk…. why do you bother?
@ 152 karlof1. thanks for the post..
Posted by: james | May 4 2023 7:45 utc | 297
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 7:41 utc | 296
Mollies aren’t a new phenomenon. Ask the Romans.
Posted by: Old Fart Legion | May 4 2023 7:47 utc | 298
Yevgeny Prigozhin with a daily report on the situation in Bakhmut:
– Units of the Wagner PMC advanced 230 meters and took control of an area of 54 square meters. meters;
– Under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine – 2.64 sq. km of the city;
– Losses of “Wagner” – 116 people dead;
– Shell hunger – the most acute;
– APU launched a counteroffensive.
Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:03 utc | 95
I know, most people cannot add two numbers together. If they advanced 230 meters with 1 meter wide path, then we have 239 square meters. 54 square meters doesn’t make sense. Maybe Prigozhin is pulling your leg.
Posted by: RB | May 4 2023 7:48 utc | 299
Its getting bad. Now I choke on my grog while reading. Some good people here.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2023 7:53 utc | 300