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May 3, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-106

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Putin absolutely will not allow the assassination of Zelensky. When Russia is finished with grinding the Ukraine’s face in the mud, they will need a puppet to run what’s left of the Ukraine while the new constitution is written and referenda are held. Zelensky would be the ideal sock puppet for the Russians. They just have to flip Z-boy to the Russian side, and trust me, he will flip. Zelensky will eagerly flip. He’ll flip like a fish on a hot sidewalk. He’ll flip like one of those toy poodles on crack doing the one trick it knows over and over again desperately hoping for a pat on the head from his new boss, Putin.
The only question is whether the Nazis and CIA will let him live long enough to land that gig.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 3 2023 19:12 utc | 101

Ther kiev clown, conveniently, is away from ukraine until May 13th. Just as well. Will he return?
Posted by: HERMIUS | May 3 2023 18:59 utc | 92
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Today’s activities at the front suggest that HIS ABSENCE is part of the plan….
Some kind of deception….HE not in the country = NO invasion ????
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Oddly enough, ER supposedly extended “surprisingly”!!!

Posted by: mo3 | May 3 2023 19:12 utc | 102

Units of the Wagner PMC advanced 230 meters and took control of an area of ​​54 square meters
– Losses of “Wagner” – 116 people dead;
– Shell hunger – the most acute
Since they started publishing stats on Wagner, it is showing how much they are sacrificing for every square meter. The lose about 1 person for every 2 meters they take. That is a heavy toll. And those who sit back and say Russia has “all the time in the world” to just “grind down the Ukrainian forces” are fools. The successful Russian forces are being ground down too, and they still haven’t cleared the Ukrainian forces from Donbass.
Russia and Russians are not taking this war serious enough by a long shot. NATO is in it for the long-run and U.S. and much of Europe seek to destroy Russia.

Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:13 utc | 103

Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:03 utc | 95
He reads his Surovikin-approved scripts really well. You strangely missed out the fact that he also said the UA had lost over 500 men in that engagement and last night secured several more city blocks.
As for drone strikes on the mainland, one simple question. How does that help UA forces getting hammered daily on the line of contact and increasingly losing their logistics hubs?

Posted by: Milites | May 3 2023 19:14 utc | 104

” Peaceful means to end the wars is sooner the world dumps the dollar, the sooner the US war machine goes bankrupt.
Posted by: Willow | May 3 2023 19:08 utc | 98 ”
Its pretty obvious isnt it ? Yet China still accepts dollars for its exports to ZioAmerica in dollars. Its almost like China wants war instead of a bloodless knockout of the US.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 19:15 utc | 105

MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:07 utc | 97
Another pop up troll. You clowns have no shame.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2023 19:11 utc | 99
You are the one attacking other commentators instead of posting about Ukraine. You are violating the rules here. If you don’t have a good counterargument you shouldn’t be making such posts.

Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:18 utc | 106

❗️🇷🇺👉🇳🇴 The Ministry of Justice of Russia has included the Norwegian Environmental Foundation Bellona in the list of undesirable non-governmental organizations
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/62891
Well, thank you. Well deserved.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 3 2023 19:11 utc | 100
Very good. But why didn’t Russia close it down over a year ago? I thought all these foreign-backed NGO’s were supposed to be closed down right after the announcement of the SMO. It makes me wonder how many are still operating.

Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:20 utc | 107

I watched the video and am not sure if the drone even hit the flag pole.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2023 17:58 utc | 46
I watched the video, especially the color of the explosion, and wonder: was that drone loaded with fireworks, to get nice video footage?

Posted by: Passerby | May 3 2023 19:21 utc | 108

I see no one has addressed my important comment from the previous thread about Ukraine being seen as Terrorist State from its failed drone attack. Head of the Duma Vyacheslav Volodin has now “branded Ukraine a terrorist state after a failed drone attack on the Kremlin” RT reports. Here’s most of the report:

Senior Russian lawmaker Vyacheslav Volodin has called on Moscow to use any weapons necessary to remove the “Nazi regime” in Kiev. The comments followed a failed Ukrainian drone attack on the Kremlin that allegedly targeted President Vladimir Putin in the early hours of Wednesday morning.
“The terrorist act against the president is an attack on Russia,” Volodin, who serves as State Duma chairman, said in a Telegram post.
“[Vladimir] Zelensky, who gave orders to carry out terrorist attacks, now stands on a par with other international terrorists,” he added, referring to the Ukrainian president. Volodin claimed that the government in Kiev is as dangerous as groups such as Al-Qaeda and Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS).
He further alleged that Ukraine’s “criminal methods” have become evident to the entire world, accusing it of tactics including nuclear blackmail, the assassination of public and political figures, the sabotage of civilian infrastructure, and attempts on Putin’s life.
The Kiev terrorist regime, having seized an entire state, threatens the security of Russia, Europe, and the whole world,” the Duma official added. He insisted that Western nations which are pumping Zelensky’s government with weapons are now “direct accomplices” to terrorist activities. [My Emphasis]
Volodin proclaimed that there “can be no negotiations with the Zelensky regime” following the attempted attack on the Kremlin, and vowed that Russian lawmakers will “demand the use of weapons capable of stopping and destroying the Kiev terrorist regime.”

One quibble, The Kiev regime didn’t seize an entire state; the Outlaw US Empire seized the state in its 2014 coup; thus, the Empire isn’t just a “direct accomplice;” it’s the Mother Terrorist using Zelensky and Ukraine as tools. Looks like Team Biden got the escalation they were hoping for. However, destroying Kiev won’t kill the Mother Terrorist; it will continue to live on until it’s finally and permanently put to death.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 3 2023 19:21 utc | 109

is that (hate and hysterical blame of jewish people) a defining characteristic of true NAZI’s?
or is there something else, as well?

Posted by: Not Ewe | May 3 2023 19:21 utc | 110

Deplorable Commissar @ 96
Ever think the Russians are doing the best they can? Seems to be their lot in history – keep on keeping on. They do lose a lot of people though.
Willow @ 98

Peaceful means to end the wars is sooner the world dumps the dollar, the sooner the US war machine goes bankrupt.

Everyone was flat broke leading up to WW2, they didn’t let that stop them. MMT really works, especially in war, even better in war, anyone that asks where the money comes from or goes to gets thrown in jail or shot.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 19:21 utc | 111

Meanwhile, despite the hand-wringing and crocodile tears from the trolls, the demilitarisation aspect of the SMO continues at a steady pace. Today’s “clobber list” from the Russian Defence Ministry: https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12466143@egNews

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
In Kupyansk direction, aviation and artillery of the Zapad Group of Forces have engaged the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine close to Stelmakhovka (Lugansk People’s Republic), and Kamenka (Kharkov region).
Up to 40 Ukrainian troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, and one D-30 howitzer were destroyed.
In Krasny Liman direction, Operational-Tactical and Army aviation and artillery of the Tsentr Group of Forces engaged the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine close to Nevskoye and Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People’s Republic).
Up to 50 Ukrainian personnel, one armoured fighting vehicle, two pick-up trucks, and two Msta-B howitzers.
In Donetsk direction, the assault detachments continue fighting in the west part of the city of Artyomovsk. Russia’s Airborne Troops have been paralysing the enemy’s action on the flanks. Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, artillery, and heavy flamethrowers of the Yug Group of Forces have foiled enemy’s attempts to counter-attack from the areas of Bogdanovka and Grigorovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The Russian aviation have made 9 sorties in this area during the day. The Group’s artillery have performed 63 firing missions.
The enemy’s losses in this direction during the day amounted to over 385 Ukrainian servicemen and mercenaries, one tank, four armoured fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles, and D-20 and D-30 howitzers.
In South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, aviation and artillery of the Vostok Group of Forces inflicted fire damage on AFU units close Ugledar (Donetsk People’s Republic), and Temirovka and Gulyai Pole (Zaporozhye region).
Total enemy losses in these directions amounted to over 70 Ukrainian troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles, and one Giatsint-B howitzer.
In Kherson direction, more than 40 Ukrainian servicemen, three motor vehicles, one Giatsint-B howitzer, and one Akatsiya self-propelled gun have been eliminated during the day.
Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Group of Forces have engaged 86 AFU artillery units, manpower and hardware in 102 areas during the day.
One U.S.-manufactured AN/TPQ-50 counterbattery warfare radar has been destroyed near Stepnogorsk (Zaporozhye region).
An ammunition depot was annihilated close to Progress (Sumy region).
The air defence forces intercepted four HIMARS MLRS projectiles and one U.S.-made JDAM bomb during the day.
Moreover, 16 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been shot down close to Podstepnoye (Kherson region), Olshany, Svatovo (Lugansk People’s Republic), Sergeevka, Volnovkha, Vasilyevka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Tavolzhanka (Kharkov region), and Romashkovo (Sumy region).
In total, 416 airplanes and 230 helicopters, 3,935 unmanned aerial vehicles, 421 air defence missile systems, 8,948 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 1,095 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 4,717 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 9,928 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 19:27 utc | 112

Ever think the Russians are doing the best they can? Seems to be their lot in history – keep on keeping on. They do lose a lot of people though.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 19:21 utc | 111
I don’t think they are doing the best they can by a long shot. Witness when Ukraine finally does something that makes them angry and they will strike much harder against the Ukrainian electric grid or other targets (though only very temporarily – they won’t keep it up). Official Russia is also not supplying the Donbass and Wagner fighters very well, while it is private charities who are doing a fairly good job at that. If private charities can do it while Russia sits on much larger supplies/stocks of ammunition and weapons – it could definitely do a better job. There is corruption and slowness at the very top which is hurting the fighters, and Putin and others could enact changes to correct much of this but aren’t.
Russia is also being lax with security which is how U.S./NATO/Ukrainian agents can carry out assassinations in Russia.
The recent assassination where the stranger-woman went up and gave a package/box to the recipient which then exploded a couple minutes later shows how lack of paranoia and strictness is costing Russians.

Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:32 utc | 113

While Ukraine and USA keep denying their obvious objectives of genocide and making the world safe for trans and other delusions, Russia has been very clear and unwavering on theirs: demilitarization of Ukraine and the elimination of the Ukrainian Nazi movement. Every day there is less of the Ukrainian military (and as a bonus, less weapon systems and defense dollars throughout NATO) and every day more Nazis die. How is Russia not winning this military operation?

Posted by: JT | May 3 2023 19:33 utc | 114

I dont understand. Why get rid of Zelensky? He is a fool. A comedian leading The Ukraine to its grave.
Why take the risk of him being replaced with someone with a functioning brain cell?
Let the fool continue tell his bad jokes to a groaning audience. The show must go on!

Posted by: Golddiggr | May 3 2023 19:34 utc | 115

Lightyears #111. You say Europe was broke leading up to WW2, but back then, US was an industrial powerhouse during, cranking out a battle ship every 2 months. British seniors still alive today thank the US for saving their bacon. However since the 1970s, the US shipped it’s industrial base overseas and today it takes 8 years for the US to make a ship and the parts and 85 percent of all goods are imported from China who the US is provoking into war. “Stupid is as stupid does”- Forest Gump.

Posted by: Willow | May 3 2023 19:34 utc | 116

“Russia and Russians are not taking this war serious enough by a long shot. NATO is in it for the long-run and U.S. and much of Europe seek to destroy Russia.
Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:13 utc | 103”
For every 100 dead Russians more than 500 Ukranians die.
Russia is ok with thay ratio. Any army would be to be honest…
Is Russians are not taking the war seriously. What are Westerners doing? LoL
Oh yeab “we will take back Crimea, Putin will die, Ukraine will be in NATO”
Right…. LoL

Posted by: Comandante | May 3 2023 19:35 utc | 117

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦Failure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Zaporozhye Front: ours repelled the attack , the enemy suffered casualties
▪️On the evening of May 3rd, 2023, after a small artillery preparation with sparse support from armored vehicles, the infantry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked in the area of ​​the settlement. Rabotino near the town of Orekhov in the Pohovsky district of the Zaporozhye region.
▪️ The task of the assault group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was to capture the defender of the 291st regiment.
▪️ Our scouts recognized the movements of the enemy group in time and responded with fire together with motorized gunners.
▪️ Tanks quickly came to the rescue and artillery joined them.
▪️ Armed forces of Ukraine began to suffer casualties and retreat, at least one unit of armored vehicles was burned at the beginning of the battle.
▪️ Our howitzers and mortars continued to hit the retreating enemy, increasing the number of casualties.
t.me/RVvoenkor
https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/29630

Posted by: unimperator | May 3 2023 19:37 utc | 118

The Western media is an ally of the MIC, and follows the lead of the New York Times, Washington Post, and a few other “venerable” news/commentary/opinion organizations. They seem to be careful to not goad Russia over the attack on the Kremlin, and aren’t commenting on it in any way that would provide cover for a massive retaliation.
So no, there was nothing humiliating about the drone strike, it was merely of the kind of embarrassment that, according to the biased reporting of Western media, a non-insane government doesn’t overreact to. They’d only call the strike by that small drone a humiliating one if Russia was incapable of blasting through Ukraine’s air defenses to reply to it. Then they would mock Putin as looking impotent, and soon to be deposed.
The British media sure don’t want the coronation they’ll be covering to experience any explosions. Which it might anyway, because that monarchy sure has its enemies, ones that hold grudges to a fearsome degree.

Posted by: Babel-17 | May 3 2023 19:41 utc | 119

Again allow me to recommend WEAPON OF POWER, MATRIX OF MANAGEMENT: NATO’s Hegemonic Formula
https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii140/articles/grey-anderson-weapon-of-power-matrix-of-management?pc=1510
Posted by: bevin | May 3 2023 18:23 utc | 62
Thank you. In simple words, the US has been Nazifying Ukraine to impose fascism on the world.
The particular feature of the ideological situation and practice is the heavy involvement of Straussians (neo-talmudists) in the process of the Nazification of Ukraine.
The financing, training, and weaponizing of Banderites (self-proclaimed Ukrainian Nazi) was never opposed by the American Jewish Community.
The Nazification of Ukraine never interrupted the Jewish Lobby’s vicious attacks on honest historians whose research contradicted the questionable mems of holobiz.
The support for Banderites (all 37 Jewish members of the US Congress have been supporting Zelensky’s government laced with self-proclaimed Nazis) also never stopped the demands for more holobiz reparations, including reparations for “genetic trauma” to the future generations of Jews, to the infinity.

Posted by: Cerena | May 3 2023 19:42 utc | 120

Is Russians are not taking the war seriously. What are Westerners doing? LoL
Posted by: Comandante | May 3 2023 19:35 utc | 117
Westerners are pumping Ukraine up with a constant stream of weapons. U.S. got dozens of countries to contribute, while the U.S. and European leaders recently went to China to make sure China wouldn’t aid Russia – and they got what they wanted: China agreed. West is also currently training Ukraine soldiers in their countries. And besides a few mercenaries, no westerners are being killed. The western countries are also physically unscathed from all the fighting. Meanwhile UK sends DU shells which will contaminate Ukrainian and Russian lands.
No westerners’ homes are being destroyed and no westerners’ farmland is being scorched by this war.

Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:45 utc | 121

The owners of the collective west – Banksters and fascist mega-corporations – are psychopathic enough to condemn the world to suicide by advanced weaponry. It is unfortunate that there’s no compulsory test on psychopathy for people in influential positions.
“The EU brought to its knees by the Straussians,” by Thierry Meyssan
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217976.html
Posted by: Cerena | May 3 2023 18:48 utc | 83
1. https://mises.org/wire/charles-schwab-and-other-big-banks-may-be-secretly-insolvent
2. “As of the end of 2022, the bank with the largest amount of assets marked as “held to maturity” relative to capital was Charles Schwab. Apart from being structured as a bank, Charles Schwab is a prominent stockbroker and owns TD Ameritrade, another prominent stockbroker. Charles Schwab had over $173 billion in assets marked as “held to maturity.” Its capital (assets minus liabilities) stood at under $37 billion. At that time, the difference between the market value and face value of assets held to maturity was over $14 billion.
[Read More: “Yes, the Latest Bank Bailout Is Really a Bailout, and You Are Paying for It.” by Ryan McMaken]
If the accounting technique had not been used the capital would have stood at around $23 billion. This amount is under half the $56 billion Charles Schwab had in capital at the end of 2021. This is also under 15 percent of the amount of assets held to maturity, under 10 percent of securities, and under 5 percent of total assets. An asset ten years from maturity is reduced in present value by 15 percent with a 3 percent increase in the interest rate. An asset twenty years from maturity is reduced in present value by 15 percent with a 1.5 percent increase in the interest rate.”
3. “Held to Maturity” always means Current Market Value is Less Than “what we paid.”
4. TD bank sold TD Ameritrade to Schab. And TD is/was a Large Shareholder in Schwab.
5. This is but a small slice of the wobbly, spinning Top conjured by the New York and London COKEHEADS from the dying U.S. dollar.

Posted by: kupkee | May 3 2023 19:47 utc | 122

Squelch!

Advanced German Howitzers Supplied to Ukraine Reportedly Hit by…Bad Weather
Germany, along with the other NATO allies of the US, ramped up their military aid to Kiev shortly after Russia launched its special military operation in Ukraine.
The advanced German Panzerhaubitze (PzH 2000) self-propelled howitzers which were earlier delivered to Kiev, turned out to be much worse adapted to bad weather than the Soviet-made Pion artillery systems, used by Russian troops in the special operation zone, a US newspaper has reported.
The media outlet cited a Ukrainian serviceman from the Ukrainian army’s 43rd Separate Artillery Brigade as saying that a decision had been made “to pull all of the new Panzerhaubitze 2000s from the field, for fear that the 60-ton howitzers would be unable to escape should they come under fire.”
According to him, one such howitzer had to be towed when it became stuck in the mud at the brigade’s position in southeastern Ukraine. The serviceman added that troops “were busy scraping off a heavily caked layer of sludge from treads and armored plating.”
The US newspaper noted in this vein that even though the Pion self­­­-propelled artillery systems also occasionally get stuck, they “actually perform better in muddy conditions” because of their “metal, claw-like tracks”. In contrast, the Panzers have rubber treads that are better for flat, hard surfaces, the newspaper added.
Even more, the news outlet went on, this German howitzer is so delicate that its “sensitive electronics go haywire when exposed to moisture or dirt.” According to the newspaper, Ukrainian soldiers “have to put on special booties or slippers when they go inside to avoid tracking in mud, and each vehicle comes with its own vacuum cleaner.”
The report comes amid growing speculation about the zero hour of Ukraine’s counteroffensive against Russian forces, with a number of Western news outlets arguing that Kiev is not yet ready for the move.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20230503/advanced-german-howitzers-supplied-to-ukraine-reportedly-hit-bybad-weather-1110045863.html

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 19:48 utc | 123

Norwegian @ 100
collaborationist

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2023 19:49 utc | 124

⚡️Blows were inflicted on Slavyansk, Kurakhovo and Konstantinovka – on the rear and places of concentration of the Bakhmut grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/29642
Hammer down.

Posted by: unimperator | May 3 2023 19:51 utc | 125

Articman @ 88
As you observe, there’s a notable amount of trolls on the last couple of Uqraine threads, all with a particular agenda.
I commented on the last thread they come from a media misinformation organisation called Bellingcat a front ran by UK MI6.
I’m watching and joining all the
dots.
————
Just somebody @ 84
And your a classic example!
Your comment is designed to give this site the appearance of a conspiracy theory site.
I’l fetch me tin foil hat then ha ha
Not a chance, keep trying boys.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2023 19:51 utc | 126

MiniMo @ 103

Since they started publishing stats on Wagner…

Eh? What are you talking about the MoD doesn’t publish stats, neither does Wagner. Prigozhin whines for whatever reason but anyone who follows numbers handed out in war, any war, is desperate for entertainment.
Deplorable Commissar @ 105

Its pretty obvious isnt it ? Yet China still accepts dollars for its exports to ZioAmerica in dollars. Its almost like China wants war instead of a bloodless knockout of the US.

What’s up, is it really you today? You’re usually more lucid. What is China supposed to trade with the USA with? Or is China supposed to hit the USA with a sanctions tsunami like the USA hit Russia and suicide its economy? If war breaks out then so be it but why shoot yourself in the head before it even starts, leave that for the imbeciles in the west.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 19:52 utc | 127

Priggers claims the counter-offensive has begun.

Posted by: jared | May 3 2023 19:54 utc | 128

Babel-17
>>They seem to be careful to not goad Russia over the attack on the Kremlin, and aren’t commenting on it in any way that would provide cover for a massive retaliation.
Well perhaps. The explanation I favor is that they want Ukraine to be the innocent victim in the struggle, and attacking Russia would interfere with that.

Posted by: Jmaas | May 3 2023 19:56 utc | 129

Seems the Ukrainians made another “recon-in-force” and had to retreat, which actually led them losing their initial position. Just a theory, but if the Ukro forces are relatively scattered and not committed yet, it might yet cause disruptions in any offensive plan.
” Vladislav Ugolny reports:
According to my sources, the Russian forces, pissed off by the insolence of the Khokhols, are now counter-attacking near Orekhovo to occupy Ukrainian positions “on the heels of the retreating” Ukrainian troops.
Specialists from the Zabaykalsky Military District’s drone swarm have been brought into the fight. The 18th Machine Gun Artillery Division (PULAD) are digging up buried T-55s in order to move them to the most endangered area.
The front has come into motion.”
@Slavyangrad

Posted by: unimperator | May 3 2023 20:01 utc | 130

I do love it when those who have accurately predicted the general course of the war: Ukraine getting some punches in but being thoroughly stomped into the ground, in return, are accused of populating and contributing to an echo chamber. Where on the side, who understands basic military principles and the differences between the three levels of a conflict, has there ever been this level of inaccurate analysis?*
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-top-soldier-says-situation-embattled-bakhmut-is-stabilising-2023-03-25/
*Scott Ritter’s hyperbolic, cringe-inducing ‘it’s all over’ at the start of the SMO, not withstanding!

Posted by: Milites | May 3 2023 20:02 utc | 131

Wake up people, you are being had. Both the West & The East (the leaders, that is) are on the same side, just acting like enemies. They both bow to the real rulers of this world, the Luciferian banking cabal who want a third world war so they can get their one world government and make the whole planet their slaves… Wake up…
Posted by: just somebody | May 3 2023 18:48 utc | 8
However you describe it, the real enemy is government. Dosn’t matter if it is leftists or rightists, insiders or outsiders, by the top or by the bottom, the enemy for thousands of years has been government.
Without government the sane but duped 98% would have long ago killed off the psychopathic 2% in the human gene pool.
That’s called directed evolution.

Posted by: Drapetomaniac | May 3 2023 20:05 utc | 132

Wagner says the ukrainian offensive has begun and they are still not being supplied.
Does anyone have an idea why wagner would not be supplied?

Posted by: southfront fan | May 3 2023 20:05 utc | 133

I think the really imbecilic stuff that UKR does comes from the British, ergo, this Kremlin drone thing was concocted by the British.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 20:07 utc | 134

The only question is whether the Nazis and CIA will let him live long enough to land that gig.
Posted by: William Gruff | May 3 2023 19:12 utc | 101
Sure, the Russians set a really stupid example by keeping the POS alive.

Posted by: Drapetomaniac | May 3 2023 20:08 utc | 135

Senior Russian lawmaker Vyacheslav Volodin has called on Moscow to use any weapons necessary to remove the “Nazi regime” in Kiev.
… that Russian lawmakers will “demand the use of weapons capable of stopping and destroying the Kiev terrorist regime.”
Posted by: karlof1 | May 3 2023 19:21 utc | 109
This will be presented as another piece of evidence when a false flag nuke attack will be registered by the new sensor network… then Russia will be depicted as the ultra pariah, the global south & China will be forced to separate themselves etc.

Posted by: Zet | May 3 2023 20:08 utc | 136

Posted by: Norwegian | May 3 2023 18:41 utc | 75
excellent point.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 3 2023 20:09 utc | 137

MiniMo @121
The link below will give you a look at the aerial assets, Ukraine/Europe, plus the logistics flow from the USA to Europe/Ukraine.
https://www.monkeywerxus.com/

Posted by: Ancient Times | May 3 2023 20:10 utc | 138

The level of delusion here needs to be documened for future studies. When russia gets balkanized, the only response will be impotent ivans saying stupid shit on telegram. Russia is the only army getting ground into nothing, western coalition outmans and outguns russia by vast margin. No one in the west gives a shit about ukraine, just dumb sergeis fighting impotent ivans to exhaustion before NATO lands the killing blow.

Posted by: Hahaha | May 3 2023 20:12 utc | 139

Posted by: Zet | May 3 2023 20:08 utc | 136
Zelensky and his cronies are absolutely expendable. They will be sacrificed if it serves the purpose of creating a narrative of an “unwarranted attack on diplomats and head of state”, even if it has only a slight chance of breaking up the East. Unfortunately this may come to occur, whether it’s a false flag or real is irrelevant.
Zelensky is being propped up again across MSM, which can seriously mean massive rage were something to happen. Although he might simply be framed to death and sent off to some Mansion in Tel-Aviv never to be heard of again.

Posted by: unimperator | May 3 2023 20:12 utc | 140

All those events that occurred today are really strange, and I doubt we are told everything there is. Maybe not even half of it.
Zelensky is out of Ukraine, while he was supposed to be on the white horse leading the offensive. He attends Scandinavian something Forum.
As Ukraine has anything to do with Scandinavia. Except that he screwed Finland and Sweden to join NATO. They still have to sober up a bit on that and will regret this decision very soon. Then he prolongs the stay in Finland.
And he was supposed to go to Berlin tomorrow, but that is still undecided. Because of reasons.
Then there is this UK River Joint AWACS going on wild, head on to Crimea losing transponder signal at around 100 miles from the Crimean coast, which is way to close and deep into forbidden area.
I have been watching this live.
Added to that there were several AWACS at the same time along the Romanian coast namely Polish Border Guard, Italian, Dutch AWACS and a few stratotankers popping on and off above Romania.
So proper invasion ISR force out there.
Then there is Baryaktar drone circling around the junction of Greek and Bulgarian borders. And for a brief moment there was no-callsign plane flying near the Slovak border, but pretty deep in Ukraine. Then it was gone.
Now we come to Kremlin attack.
Things like that were expected to happen and were anticipated.
It is good that it happened today instead on 9th of May.
It will make Russians angry enough to commit to any legal and otherwise justification to finish this off hard – but only when they see fit.
Remember, from RF’s perspective, RF is not at war.
I disagree that RF will be or is seen as a weakling here.
Reactively, even more admiration will be raised world-wide to RF’s stoic, cool and calm posture, as they up the ante on more important issues, while entertaining the own masses by issuing retaliatory aggression points.
Somebody wrote here that RF is not behaving as US/UK/NATO destroyers. That is true and that is why such attitude is appreciated.
That is where RF differs and matters.
And we witness many small Ukrainian offensives that were lightning up on this afternoon, and those all appear as a lame attempts to divert attention off those other strange events.
I think the real fun is starting now to speed up a bit, and the weekend is going to be amazing.
Not to mention today’s influx of ‘special needs troll forces’ in the bar.
Also, worth mentioning that so far we are all hypnotized by numbers, skirmishes, and battles instead of overall percentages, tactics, and strategy.
Only to be woken real soon by big red arrows movements.
At least it seems so, as it’s in the air.

Posted by: whirlX | May 3 2023 20:15 utc | 141

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2023 19:51 utc | 126
I’m sure there’s no truth in the rumour that King WingNut the 1st is going to be crowned with a tin foil hat!
It’s also a very good thing that I am not Russian target-planner, otherwise I would be looking at the gathering of the self-proclaimed ‘great and good’ at the weekend and be thinking to myself “That’s a target-rich environment…”

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 20:16 utc | 142

The attack on the Kremlin was a provocation. For the RF leadership to allow itself to be provoked is to play straight into their hands. Not sure why folks who cannot see that, fail to see the obvious.

Posted by: nwwoods | May 3 2023 20:19 utc | 143

Posted by: Hahaha | May 3 2023 20:12 utc | 139
More low effort stuff, but I’ll take you on anyway, I’ll have a bet with you that the USA becomes balkanised long before Russia does. What say you?

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 20:24 utc | 144

Zelensky has left Finland for the Netherlands.
How long before he returns to Kiev?

Posted by: Norwegian | May 3 2023 20:27 utc | 145

West of England Andy @ 142
I take it you’re not going to be swearing allegiance to the King and his heirs? What’s that thing about neoliberalism equaling neo-feudalism? UK is putting it in stark, eye-popping, relief.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 20:29 utc | 146

“Zelensky reportedly on his way to the Netherlands.
Zelensky set to give speech tomorrow in The Hague titled “No Peace without Justice.”

Posted by: unimperator | May 3 2023 20:30 utc | 147

unimperator @ 147

Zelensky set to give speech tomorrow in The Hague titled “No Peace without Justice.”

For all those egging for retaliation, here’s your Kinzhal wet dream. Don’t touch that dial!

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 20:33 utc | 148

Posted by: Apollyon | 3 May 2023 17:59 UTC | 47
The wing touches the mast, the UAV breaks up, the charge explode forward, and misses its target.
Amateur pilot.
The air defence can’t directed to the Kremelin.
Today, for the first time a JDMA was captured by an AD systhem.

Posted by: Posted by: Apollyon | May 3 2023 20:34 utc | 149

And those people on the ground are very disappointed in Russia’s lack of help and success so far.
Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:07 utc | 97
Let me guess! You are one of those people bon the ground, right?
But what is not clear: on which side are you?

Posted by: Quo Vadis | May 3 2023 20:37 utc | 150

I take it you’re not going to be swearing allegiance to the King and his heirs?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 20:29 utc | 146
You might very well think that, I couldn’t possibly comment…

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 20:44 utc | 151

Zet @136–
If Russia desired to eliminate the Kiev regime, it would use its non-nuclear forces, which have proven to be quite destructive and accurate enough to do the job without much collateral damage. If Russia were Neocon, the Kremlin attack would be labeled a “Pearl Harbor Moment” followed by waging a war of terror on NATO using its hypersonics. Many would like to see that, so why haven’t there been any postulations that the drone attack was a false flag? As I wrote earlier, such an attack was anticipated by Russia beginning 22 Feb 2022. Was the attack the long-vaunted Spring Offensive?
Furthermore, Russian lawmakers know well Russia’s nuclear doctrine doesn’t allow for the use of nuclear weapons in a case of this sort. And there’ve been no restrictions placed on Russia’s military as to the type of non-nuclear weapons they can employ or on dual-use targets such as the Ukie Rada (That’s an interesting question actually: It an enemy nation’s government a military target since the Chain of Command supposedly starts with the President in this case?).
On the previous thread, I said why Russia considers Ukraine a Terrorist State, and that was prior to the Moscow drone attack. As far as I know, Russia has yet to call the Outlaw US Empire a Terrorist State although it clearly is; although in her briefings, Maria Zakharova’s come very close on many occasions since the Empire is “leading from behind” to avoid such direct connections. IMO, most onlooking nations will shrug their shoulders because Moscow targets Kiev so the opposite must be expected to occur and has. That some Russian’s have knee-jerked reactions isn’t at all unusual. RT’s article on reactions by foreign experts goes thusly:

A Ukrainian drone attack on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s working residences in the Kremlin has shaken the status quo in the ongoing conflict between Moscow and Kiev, a group of experts told RT following the incident. It could also lead to a dangerous escalation possibly involving the use of nuclear weapons, they warned, adding that Russia is bound to retaliate.
Thomas Roeper, a German author and war correspondent currently residing in St. Petersburg, said he was “quite surprised” to hear of the attack, since it clearly violated “an unofficial agreement not to bomb, not to attack places where the leading politicians are.”
“There is no doubt that Russia will have to retaliate,” said Ralph Niemeyer, the head of the German Opposition Group for German Sovereignty and Constitution. “There will be further escalation, even up to the threat of the use of nuclear [weapons], which I think is still possible,” he added.
A Turkish professor of international law and an expert on terrorism, Mesut Hakki Casin, suggested that an escalation may have been the goal of the people who planned the strike. The forces behind the attack might have sought to put the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine “at the center of European warfare” and potentially even provoke Moscow into launching a tactical nuclear strike, he told RT.
“It’s a very unacceptable and a very, very dirty game,” the Turkish analyst warned. Casin also said Kiev may not have been alone in planning and organizing the strike. “This is an organized international attack,” he said.
Ukraine’s Western backers will not be able to ignore the incident in any case, Niemeyer believes. The German opposition figure still anticipates that the US and its allies will try to downplay the incident and “say it was not the Kiev regime, it was not [President Vladimir] Zelensky’s people,” as they did with the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage.
According to Roeper, the attack could also affect relations between Kiev and Washington if the Ukrainians did not inform their backers about the planned attack in advance.
“Maybe Washington was not informed, and maybe it was. We will see by the reaction. If Washington was not informed, there will be some angry reaction because this is a quite big danger to attack the president of a nuclear power,” the journalist said.

Time will tell what the reaction is if one’s announced.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 3 2023 20:45 utc | 152

I don’t know how I did it but I managed to post under the name appolyon. 149

Posted by: la bouteille | May 3 2023 20:47 utc | 153

Had to go out for an hour, wow this thread is on fire, in a good way. alot of first rate comments massively out weighing the bellingcat boys plus the regulars naysayers, like a ticking clock I hardly notice them.
Gt Stroller @89 (I think)
Thanks for that link regarding weponized grouse! Was it one of ours or one of theirs ?
West of England Andy, good to see you back on here again.
Ha ha ole Charly in a tin foil hat that needs photo shopping.
Mmm metaphorically speaking yes there be a lot of flag poles at buck palace this weekend.
All of the flack on this thread of course is psychological projection.
Blaming Russia for the very failings the west posses.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2023 20:48 utc | 154

Aleks / Black Mountain Analysis has a new piece. So far every one of them has been worth to read imo.
https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/operational-update-4

Posted by: unimperator | May 3 2023 20:51 utc | 155

I guess Pavlograd really stuck in the craw. The response? A firecracker commercial drone stunt. Laughable.
Doubly so since the West is a decade or more behind in air defense systems. I can’t be the only one to notice the f35 is a turkey.
The shit show continues until it can’t. How’s them banks?

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 3 2023 20:52 utc | 156

” What’s up, is it really you today? You’re usually more lucid. What is China supposed to trade with the USA with?
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 19:52 utc | 127 ”
I’m going to attribute this comment to you being tired.
Haven’t nations been switching to trading in their own currencies recently ? Cant China demand that the US pay it in Yuan ? Is that really so difficult ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 20:55 utc | 157

MiniMo writes:
“while the U.S. and European leaders recently went to China to make sure China wouldn’t aid Russia – and they got what they wanted: China agreed.”
They got China to agree not to do something that China had repeatedly said it never had any intention of doing? What an accomplishment!

Posted by: malenkov | May 3 2023 20:56 utc | 158

” I dont understand. Why get rid of Zelensky? He is a fool. A comedian leading The Ukraine to its grave.
Why take the risk of him being replaced with someone with a functioning brain cell?
Posted by: Golddiggr | May 3 2023 19:34 utc | 115 ”
Because someone with a functional brain would stop this madness.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 21:01 utc | 159

Breaker one-nine, any barflies got a copy?
Hal Turner is receiving unconfirmed reports of Russian strategic long range aviation being fitted with nuclear warheads. It appears as if we have reached the precipice and shit is about to hit the proverbial fan. 10-4
Over and out.

Posted by: LtGen_Breedluvv | May 3 2023 21:02 utc | 160

” Deplorable Commissar @ 96
Ever think the Russians are doing the best they can? Seems to be their lot in history – keep on keeping on. They do lose a lot of people though.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 19:21 utc | 111 ”
If this is Russia’s best then they’re doomed.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 21:04 utc | 161

# 145
I saw, he is not due back in ukraine till the 13th of may.
maybe longer maybe never. after all, he is an entertainer
doing what he is told, like a child. he sold his free-will for
money and fifteen seconds of fame

Posted by: Dingo | May 3 2023 21:05 utc | 162

If I had a dime for every time Hal Turner broadcast some hysterical bovine excrement, I could have bought First Republic Bank all by myself.

Posted by: malenkov | May 3 2023 21:05 utc | 163

You can smell the stink of desperation from the Trollingcat types and the True Believers.
Tell us more about how Russia faces imminent collapse, as opposed to indebted, divided and deindustrialized America and vassals?
I’m truly interested in the pretzel logic that gets you to such a conclusion.
The only hope for the Ukrainian Reich is to draw NATO in…and we know NATO doesn’t want that.
Even if NATO does ..which I dont discount given the demonstratably insane nature of those at the helm, they still lose any conventional conflict in my estimatation..the war is on Russias doorstep, not in Mexico. And if it goes nuclear we are all fucked with a capital F anyway.
If there was anyone with any brains in the Western military inteliigence octopus left they would immediately reverse course. However that would mean losing face and climbing down and it seems certain highbred fucks don’t know how to do that.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 3 2023 21:06 utc | 164

” is that (hate and hysterical blame of jewish people) a defining characteristic of true NAZI’s?
or is there something else, as well?
Posted by: Not Ewe | May 3 2023 19:21 utc | 110 ”
Just the mere fact that you called them Jewish people instead of Jews shows that you’ve already been conditioned. Do you call Christians ” Christian people ” , how about Muslims are they ” Muslim people ” ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 21:08 utc | 165

A false flag assassination of Zelensky solves the problem of the delay of the great offensive and the stolen billions. There must be a desperate offensive, because Putin must pay, it will fail.
Killing him while he is making a speech in public in Den Hague on the remembrance day of the Nazi victims is an ironic but wicked plan. Zelensky must watch his back when he is hiding in west Europe, he is going to be sacrificed.

Posted by: gary mcAvelli | May 3 2023 21:10 utc | 166

Cant China demand that the US pay it in Yuan ? Is that really so difficult ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 20:55 utc | 157
None of us here are party to the commercial agreements between the likes of Apple and Foxconn so none of us here have any insight as to what currency their transactions are conducted in. There’s nothing in the public domain to say that Apple aren’t converting their dollars to yuan before paying Foxconn. The currency risk would be taken by the bank conducting the conversion, not by the Chinese government or population.

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 21:10 utc | 167

Il y a urgence pour les américains de déclencher une guerre mondiale.
La First Republic Bank a fait faillite et à été reprise par JP Morgan Bank.
La dédollarisation s’accélère.
Un effondrement bancaire pourrait bien se produire.
La guerre… La solution et le mal nécessaire pour sauver les USA de l’implosion.

Posted by: JOUAN | May 3 2023 21:11 utc | 168

Probably launched within Russia. Probably not that difficult to assemble for someone with technical skills. Also in a NATO/EU city such as Brussels it would not be that difficult to fly such a thing from a short distance into an official building. We should not forget that there must be a number of moles among the Ukrainian refugees in Russia. Looks like a do-it-yourself terrorist attack, more of a pinprick.
Much worse would be terrorist attacks using civilians as a shield as we have seen in Syria for years and years. As we have seen with the Chechen takfiris in Moscow and Beslan in the nineties (a theatre in Moscow, a school in Beslan). Hopefully the city guards and citizen patrols all over Russia are maximum alert to clamp down on small bands wanting to take hostages.

Posted by: Teraspol | May 3 2023 21:11 utc | 169

I saw, he is not due back in ukraine till the 13th of may.
maybe longer maybe never. after all, he is an entertainer
doing what he is told, like a child. he sold his free-will for
money and fifteen seconds of fame
Posted by: Dingo | May 3 2023 21:05 utc | 162
.
.
NO on 05/13/23 Silensky is in Germany where he should get a medal.
Ergo, HE won’t be back in the Ukraine before 05/14/23…
Good timeframe for what???

Posted by: mo3 | May 3 2023 21:15 utc | 170

” Very good. But why didn’t Russia close it down over a year ago? I thought all these foreign-backed NGO’s were supposed to be closed down right after the announcement of the SMO. It makes me wonder how many are still operating.
Posted by: MiniMo | May 3 2023 19:20 utc | 107 ”
Another important question is why hasn’t Russia shut down every single instance of Western media, internet services, entertainment and music as those are the greatest weapons the West has against target populations ? For example, Western music and videos are finely tuned instruments of social manipulation against the youth of a nation. Very odd indeed.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 21:17 utc | 171

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 21:08 utc | 165
im not seeing a significant difference, here. i’d wager that both Biden and whoever his opponent is in 24 will at some point use “the American People” in a speech. they will also use the word “Americans”, probably more frequently.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 3 2023 21:19 utc | 172

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 19:48 utc | 123
A Pz 2000 is not similar SPG to a Psion, but pedantics aside, it’s interesting that the comments about cleaning the mud buildup from the vehicles over-engineered running-gear could have been made by German crewmen on the Eastern Front. Will they ever learn?
This issue is also bad news for the Leopard II’s as they use the same rubber, metal combi tracks as the Pz 2000.

Posted by: Milites | May 3 2023 21:20 utc | 173

@malenkov 163
I get it, he is the n*gger people love to hate. As with Alex Jones, Hal Turner has been right, more than wrong. Roger.
Over and out.

Posted by: LtGen_Breedluvv | May 3 2023 21:22 utc | 174

IIRC, Z is scheduled to receive the Charlemagne Medal in Germany later this month. The medal has a notorious purpose and history. I think it’s done at Aachen.
I watched that drone movie behind the Kremlin flag and immediately thought, they’re traveling slower than I would expect, how did they pass the AD between Moscow and whatever Russian border they crossed, and, what caused the explosions that destroyed them?
The Almighty is cleaning out mounds of culture rot using Russian agency. The nations are obliged now to tend their own affairs without recourse to alliances against third parties. Wouldn’t Jeremiah and Amos be pleased! Russia’s military strength corporealizes her spiritual strength, The Church at her Center.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | May 3 2023 21:23 utc | 175

Anyone else happen to catch this bit of nonsense?

BREAKING: Russia may launch missile strikes on Kyiv this night. Two nuclear warheads allegedly at the airfield but not armed on the planes at this time.
Osechkin’s source: “Orders have been sent to the air bases in Engels and Shaykovka to prepare a number of TU-22Ms for flight, missile strikes could be carried out on a number of administrative buildings in Kiev during the night.”
Osechkin: “The source also claimed that for the first time nuclear weapons may be used, at least two ‘items’ are already located directly at one of the aforementioned airfields.
P.S. Details will be provided later. It is important to understand that a long-range aviation source is risking his life, namely the risk of going to prison for life. And this is not a hype or a gimmick, today everything is very serious and it is not known how it will end. We are not talking about a monkey with a grenade, we are all dealing with (or rather confronting) a dictator with nuclear weapons. And if he decides to use nuclear weapons, we hope that the pilots and specialists of the ground services of the Air Force will not carry out this criminal order.”

Closest thing I can find to a source is UK tabloids.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 3 2023 21:25 utc | 176

Another important question is why hasn’t Russia shut down every single instance of Western media, internet services, entertainment and music

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 21:17 utc | 171
To quote Her Royal Hilaryness:

What difference does it make?

Why is it important? Turn your telescope around and look through the correct eyepiece.

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 21:27 utc | 177

“After today’s terrorist attack, there are no options left other than the physical elimination of Zelensky and his clique.”
Republicofscotland | May 3 2023 17:45 utc | 33
“Not so long ago, US Senator Lindsey Graham spoke about the elimination of Putin”
Norwegian | May 3 2023 18:48 utc | 85
“Biden’s cabinet is 70% Khazarian and multiple Israeli leaders are on record saying they pretty much control the US.”
Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 18:53 utc | 87
It would be fair to add to the list “Zelensky and his clique” the main American Nazifiers of Ukraine, whose activities assured the ongoing bloody conflict. Nuland-Kagan, Jake Sullivan, the whole warmongering Kagans’ clan, Anne Applebaum, and the numerous zionist stink-tanks dripping with Russophobia have put aside their “incomparable ethnic sufferings” because “nazi & hitler” and instead have established special relationships with self-proclaimed Nazis in Ukraine. The Straussians (neo-talmudists) have been treating Russia as “Amalek” and in their mad hatred of Russia and Russians have decided to weaponize, finance, and train followers of Stepan Bandera, a prominent Nazi collaborator, to turn Ukrainian youth into cannon fodder for bankers’ war against Russia.

Posted by: Cerena | May 3 2023 21:29 utc | 178

The drone never hit the roof or the flagpole. It exploded by remote control. It was a small, battery operated drone. As a professional drone pilot myself I could see the drone was battery operated. This means it would have had a battery life of about 30 minutes at the most and would have had a maximum speed of about 40mph. The operator could not have been more than 20 miles away therefore.
The visual screen signal from the operator to the drone would have been extremely weak at 20 miles and would probably have been lost. A good clear signal would have to have the operator within about maximum 8 miles.
The drone was therefore operated within the Moscow area, had a small explosiive device attached and was steered by the operator via the screen on his control deviice.
IMO

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 3 2023 21:31 utc | 179

Time to cue Def Lepard’s Hysteria and chill.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 3 2023 21:32 utc | 180

@Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 3 2023 21:25 utc | 176
Going nuclear because of a Mickey Mouse stunt?
Well if UK newspaper are reporting it … it MUST BE TRUE (could contain sarcasm).

Posted by: NoName | May 3 2023 21:32 utc | 181

Funny, most of you never say that ZioAmerica has to worry, when its patently obvious they are the instigators of all of this. Why is that ?
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 17:46 utc | 35
Because the neocons would respond with nukes. Putin is trying to limit that sort of escalation. The neocons don’t care enough about Stoltenberg enough to go nuclear.
Personally, I’d like to see Putin flatten Banksters Central, ie the City of London.
All wars are Bankster Wars. Time to take it to the Banksters.

Posted by: Mary | May 3 2023 21:33 utc | 182

mo3 @ 170

on 05/13/23 Silensky is in Germany where he should get a medal.

Let me guess, the Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross? Are they still giving those out?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 21:39 utc | 183

Posted by: Milites | May 3 2023 21:20 utc | 173
Saluting your knowledge, I presume a similar issue with the tracks and mud would also apply to the Gepard anti-aircraft units supplied by Germany?

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 21:46 utc | 184

@ Tom_Q_Collins | May 3 2023 21:25 utc | 176
“..we hope that the pilots and specialists of the ground services of the Air Force will not carry out this criminal order.”
Closest thing I can find to a source is UK tabloids.

Oh, that’s not surprising. UK tabloids have amazing writing skills and probably lots of stimulants when they come up with such ideas. Throw a
spoon or two of MI6, consult Bellingcat and you have reliable information.
I mean, who else can come up with titles such as “Pootin lootin’ the planet, while loosin’ the war” and many similar haikus.
It is a poetry in its own world, but an interesting deep dive into how twisted and evil some people can be.
RF will never use nukes first.

Posted by: whirlX | May 3 2023 21:46 utc | 185

All the russians need do is drop 500lb or 1000lb bombs on likely installations near the front that are housing petrol, food, ammo, trucks, guns, tanks. You can’t assault through big detonations like that.

Posted by: Wokechoke | May 3 2023 21:51 utc | 186

Closest thing I can find to a source is UK tabloids.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 3 2023 21:25 utc | 176
The only time the UK tabloids are accurate are when they talk about 36DD bust measurements! And even then, I’d want to check for myself…

Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 21:52 utc | 187

# 182
money makes the world go round
many say that
can you believe it?

Posted by: Dingo | May 3 2023 21:55 utc | 188

Posted by: NoName | May 3 2023 21:32 utc | 181
Yep. And as ridiculous as it sounds, the USUK (and likely CA, AU, etc.) press is priming the public for it, which to me says “expect false flag” at any time now. Also keep in mind the stories of the past few days that PRECEDED the alleged Ukrainian attack in Moscow regarding the “advanced nuclear sensors” and “shadowy nuclear groups” being deployed to Ukraine. LOL, you can’t make this shit up.
Posted by: whirlX | May 3 2023 21:46 utc | 186
Indeed, but don’t forget that the UK tabloid ecosystem is just one of the several arms of western media used to prime the public for ever increasing escalations and false flags. As noted above, the corresponding stories in the MSM were about nuclear sensing equipment and crews of experts being sent over there. Again, PRE-DATING the alleged attempt on Putin’s life. How convenient, right?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 3 2023 21:56 utc | 189

The only time the UK tabloids are accurate are when they talk about 36DD bust measurements! And even then, I’d want to check for myself…
Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 21:52 utc | 188
Pretty much!
Even that one looks staged, but what do I know.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 3 2023 21:58 utc | 190

Its beyound my understanding why the collective west chose to back Zelensky in the fist place, what with his transvestite piano playing, coke habit and curuption.
Apart from that he looks like something the cat brought in.
Not good for public perseption management.
But hind sights a wonderfully thing.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2023 22:00 utc | 191

Deplorable Commissar @ 157

Haven’t nations been switching to trading in their own currencies recently ? Cant China demand that the US pay it in Yuan ? Is that really so difficult ?

I’ll ask you the same thing. It’s a two way street, China also buys from the USA, the USA would say pay in dollars. China wants to buy from the USA, they aren’t macro-economically stupid enough to build up a huge trade surplus and beggar their trade partners like Germany does in the EU. Macro is about balance, imbalance is an ailing economy, extremes are ruin, surplus or deficit doesn’t matter. The USA since 1973 has demanded that everyone pays in dollars, how well did that work out, at home and abroad? And anyway bankrupting the USA won’t stop it from sailing off to war, at this point they are well broke already have been for the last 15 years, a 100% obscure war economy is their last hope, China would be doing them a favor.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 22:06 utc | 192

Because the neocons would respond with nukes. Putin is trying to limit that sort of escalation. The neocons don’t care enough about Stoltenberg enough to go nuclear.
Posted by: Mary | May 3 2023 21:33 utc | 182 ”
I keep reading this argument but it falls short. Do you know why North Korea is untouchable ? Because it would respond with its Nukes and everything else it has, yet Russia is impotent and not to be feared ? Not buying it.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 22:06 utc | 193

” To quote Her Royal Hilaryness:
What difference does it make?
Why is it important? Turn your telescope around and look through the correct eyepiece.
Posted by: West of England Andy | May 3 2023 21:27 utc | 177 ”
Is that a riddle ? Because no one knows what you’re trying to say. Try again please.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 22:09 utc | 194

The UK only days ago had a national alarm test by text message.(First time ever)
As it turned out a total failure 25% never got it including me.
Clearly priming the public consciousness for a western perpetrated false flag.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 3 2023 22:11 utc | 195

West of England Andy @ 188

The only time the UK tabloids are accurate are when they talk about 36DD bust measurements! And even then, I’d want to check for myself…

What if the measurements are real but the boobs are fake? Do you get to keep the Pulitzer?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 3 2023 22:11 utc | 196

Hope (allegedly) King Charles III doesn’t get a bad case of coronation chicken.

Posted by: DomesticExtremist | May 3 2023 22:11 utc | 197

Posted by: karlof1 | May 3 2023 21:32 utc | 180
“Time to cue Def Lepard’s Hysteria and chill.”
I think this one may be more appropriate 🙂
Def Leppard – Foolin’

Posted by: Nathan in WA US | May 3 2023 22:14 utc | 198

” im not seeing a significant difference, here. i’d wager that both Biden and whoever his opponent is in 24 will at some point use “the American People” in a speech. they will also use the word “Americans”, probably more frequently.
Posted by: pretzelattack | May 3 2023 21:19 utc | 172 ”
Not sure what you mean, but let me make it clearer. Automatically saying ” Jewish people ” at every juncture is a unnatural conditioned sign of deference. Identical to the current trend of capitalizing ” Black people ” but not ” white people “. These are all mind control devices.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | May 3 2023 22:14 utc | 199

Milites, #173
>>A Pz 2000 is not similar SPG to a Psion, but pedantics aside, it’s interesting that the comments about cleaning the mud buildup from the vehicles over-engineered running-gear could have been made by German crewmen on the Eastern Front. Will they ever learn?
That, and how many times are the Europeans going to invade Russia without being prepared for the cold weather? So far there was Napoleon’s disaster. This was followed by a British-French effort to take the naval base in the Crimea. Some British troops lost limbs owing to frostbite, and the French had it only a little bit better. And of course Hitler’s misadventure. Having done it three times, do they now know that Russia is seriously cold in the winter?

Posted by: Jmaas | May 3 2023 22:17 utc | 200