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May 14, 2023
The MoA Week In Review – (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-115

Last week's post on Moon of Alabama:

asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل @asadabukhalil – 1:05 UTC · May 14, 2023

I was treated all week to fawning articles about Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu in all West media (just as I remember reading laudatory articles in WSJ and NYT about a Lebanese drug dealer because he was running against Hizbullah). Today I am flooded on twitter with pro-Kılıçdaroğlu tweets


Other issues:

Empire:

Propaganda:

Currencies:

Use as open (not Ukraine related) thread …

Comments

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 15 2023 19:28 utc | 96
My favorite music from Eric Clapton is his work with Cream. The Yardbirds next.
Cream – Disraeli Gears – Tales of Brave Ulysses
Here’s a funny thing I just learned on Wikipedia about the naming of Disraeli Gears.

Drummer Ginger Baker recalled how the album’s title was based on a malapropism which alluded to 19th-century British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli:
You know how the title came about – Disraeli Gears – yeah? We had this Austin Westminster, and Mick Turner was one of the roadies who’d been with me a long time, and he was driving along and Eric [Clapton] was talking about getting a racing bicycle. Mick, driving, went ‘Oh yeah – Disraeli gears!’ meaning derailleur gears … We all just fell over … We said that’s got to be the album title.[8]

Having gone to school in USA, I would never have heard of Disraeli were it not for Cream.
I feel for him with the death of his four old who fell 53 floors to his death.
Thanks everyone for your hard work figuring out our collective situation. (and some good tunes!)

Posted by: lex talionis | May 15 2023 20:34 utc | 101

Military power vs the fine arts. My nephew dumb as as fuck went up to some frock band and got his head kicked. Had to have his ear sown back on.
Frock band? a bit of of a typo but whatever… Young and dumb.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 15 2023 20:50 utc | 102

The music discourse got me to browsing for albums I never had but wish I’d bought. In the process, I discovered that for the Woodstock’s 50th Anniversary something incredible was released, Woodstock – Back to the Garden: The Definitive 50th Anniversary Archive, a box set of 38 CDs containing nearly all of the performances of which only 1,969 sets were produced. BUT, they’re all available for download online!! Yet another outstanding reason to support The Archive. It contains far more than just the music and is just shy of 36.5 hours in length. As some may know, the original 3-disc vinyl soundtrack omitted many artists and much music as did the initial movie. A 10-CD set exists that has music from all the performers but not en toto.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 15 2023 23:01 utc | 103

@ lex talionis | May 15 2023 20:34 utc | 101
Ta for link and great story on that Title –

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 15 2023 23:10 utc | 104

Long Red by Mountain live at Woodstock is one of the most sampled breaks in hip hop.

The 24-second drum intro from Mountain’s performance of the song at Woodstock in 1969 has been sampled over 700 times,[5] particularly the clips of West shouting “You out there?”, “Louder!” and “Yeah!”. West’s energetic ad-libs and drummer N. D. Smart’s improvised beat have been used by countless producers such as Pete Rock, Kanye West, Rick Rubin, and J Dilla,[3][5] with Dilla creating the track “Stepson of the Clapper” off his 2006 album Donuts exclusively from samples of the intro.[6]
“Long Red” was first sampled by either[a] Eric B. or Marley Marl on Eric B. & Rakim’s 1986 debut track “Eric B. is President”.[5] Use of the sample would grow exponentially after this, with it being used three times in 1986, 10 times in 1987, and 20 times in 1988.
When asked about the song’s popularity in sampling in a 2014 interview with Glide Magazine, West said, “we have great publisher at Universal who gives the OK when people call for clearance to use it. So all these different groups sampling the song, why shouldn’t I do it? I wanted to do it more representative of the how I do it now. It’s much heavier now than when I wrote it back in 1969.”[7]
Pitchfork listed the sample as one of the “well-used building block [sic] that every sample-based producer should know their way around”, mentioning it alongside other famous samples such as Malcolm McLaren and the World’s Famous Supreme Team’s “Buffalo Gals” and Beastie Boys’ “The New Style”.[8]

Thank you for that Archive link, karlof1!

Posted by: lex talionis | May 15 2023 23:29 utc | 105

The Durham Report (The Reactionary, Techno Fog, May 16, 2023)

Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation – an inquiry into government corruption, lies to secret courts, the weaponization of the US intelligence apparatus, the FBI’s attempt to take down a sitting president – has concluded.
The Durham Report has been released.
Here are some of the main findings:

Posted by: S | May 15 2023 23:35 utc | 106

* It’s actually May 15 (which Substack displays as May 16 in my time zone).

Posted by: S | May 15 2023 23:37 utc | 107

Funny coincidence today between my musing (on previous day’s Ukie thread) about Putin’s second Security Council meeting in 3 days that it might be related to CSTO/CIS nation development. Valdai Club generated this Infographic, “Economic Development of Central Asia,” as if to order. As you’ll see, my apprehensions are well justified, particularly the table Trade Balance with Russia. The imbalance with Kazakhstan is quite profound and unhealthy, IMO.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 15 2023 23:44 utc | 108

Bomb bomb bomb Taiwan.
Yes it has come this insanity.
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/05/15/us-calls-for-bombing-taiwan-semiconductor-industry-nord-stream-sabotage-redux/
The USA proves its supremacy by plotting to bomb TSMC factories in Taiwan. The world watches on in disgust.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 16 2023 0:03 utc | 109

S | May 15 2023 23:35 utc | 106–
Thanks for providing that link to Techno_Fog’s summary. CIA and FBI clearly tried to alter the 2016 election in ways Russia could never have done and continued through Trump’s term to subvert his office. It’s also likely that both did the same in 2020, which was a fraudulent election for reasons usually ignored just as was 2016’s. When one thinks about Prouty’s “Guns of Dallas” article and the “cleaning” done by FBI and CIA, there’s no doubt that the USA is a Criminal Fraud armed with Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Weapons and is far more deserving of the treatment delivered to Saddam.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 16 2023 0:07 utc | 110

S #106
Thank you. The next week will have some interesting reading.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 16 2023 0:27 utc | 111

Posted by: Zet | May 15 2023 18:49 utc | 38
As promised, I did improve my “MoA Helper” Google Chrome extension yesterday and just uploaded it to a new telegram channel.
If you don’t have Telegram then you can also download it from here: https://www.filemail.com/d/tsadtlatknvfyni
Thank you, much appreciated. I work with a 2015 MacBook using the Opera browser which uses the Chrome engine. I have got your extension into my download folder and unzipped, but do not see an obvious way to install from there into Chrome. Any ideas greatly appreciated.

Posted by: Alchemist | May 16 2023 1:18 utc | 112

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 15 2023 4:20 utc | 49
Thanks for your response, Tom Q. I live in New Mexico but am a native New Zealander, though it is a while since I’ve lived there, and I love both places. I think many are confused about the original Christian beginnings, though if the four Evangelistic writings are followed, even western Christians can be closely aligned in fundamental beliefs. I’ve had early experiences in Protestant churches, attended a Catholic high school, then liberal arts college (could be described as ‘freedom from religion’,very useful) — so Orthodoxy was the last stop, so to speak.
From time to time I’ve given a short explanation of where we are on the Orthodox calendar to add to the understanding of the many cultures that can be found in Russia’s history – my own acquaintance with same having originated here in New Mexico at a small family chapel where our services followed traditional Old Calendar liturgical practices. That little church no longer exists, but I’ve kept it in my heart.
In my own family there are a variety of spiritual paths being followed. I may differ from many Orthodox in seeing value for each however they choose. Our Orthodox liturgy begins by describing a God “who lovest mankind”. Not just the Orthodox — mankind. I think Putin has the same attitude.

Posted by: juliania | May 16 2023 1:27 utc | 113

Prologue,

Trump’s ‘Chinese Virus’ tweet helped lead to rise in racist anti-Asian Twitter content: Study

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Exclusively for Chinese Americans only….
If I were CA, wont bother to vote at all.
Caitlin

US Presidential Elections Are Children’s Entertainment

Andre Vltchek

Please Do Not Poison My Brain With The US Elections!
They can choose the face, like in some violent video game. The engine, the system behind that face (or call it a mask), is permanent. It does not change

But if you simply have to vote…
Dont touch Fucker Carlson even with a ten feet pole !
Carlson in a nutshell.

Trump ‘At His Best’ Naming Coronavirus ‘The Chinese Virus’
China is a far bigger threat than Russia | SpectatorTV
This is the greatest threat to democracy, freedom worldwide
China is no longer simply an economic rival of the United States; it’s becoming a dangerous enemy.

So, all tonight we know with certainty is that the Chinese military just flew an aircraft that reportedly contained explosives over the entire length of the United States and got away with it. That seems like a bad precedent.
Extortion from China is the real threat

Chinese Communists trained in Canada are ‘threat to American national security’
‘We have the closest relation with Canada of any country, obviously, in the world. This seems like an obvious threat to American national security’
the Trudeau government invited Chinese communist troops to learn Canadian ’winter’ warfare is “an amazing story” that was “hard to believe, but real.”
Russia Is Not As Corrupt As Ukraine & China Is The Real Threat

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PS
This has nuthin to do with China,
Chinese Americans vote for Carlson at their own peril, expect another wave of hate crimes coming your way.
https://www.countercurrents.org/vltchek080216.htm
Somebody should really do an autopsy on Vltchek !
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But but…
Carlon must be a closet Jew, or perhaps his legion of ‘wn’ loyalists………..?

Posted by: denk | May 16 2023 3:31 utc | 114

Much is made of Xi Jinping Thought, but it’s just an updated version of Confucianism. I looked for something about Confucian political-economy as was introduced to Sungmoon Kim, a Confucian scholar with many publications, one of which is Theorizing Confucian Virtue Politics: The Political Philosophy of Mencius and Xunzi, which is reviewed in detail here. Those curious will want to read it.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 16 2023 5:01 utc | 115

From this posting below from Xinhuanet you would think that relations between China and Australia were a bed of roses…

BEIJING, May 15 (Xinhua) — “Australia doesn’t want to decouple from China. What Australia wants to do is to improve our trading relationship with China,” said Australian Trade Minister Don Farrell during an exclusive interview with Xinhua recently.
Farrell is the first Australian trade minister to have visited China in four years. He and Chinese Minister of Commerce Wang Wentao co-hosted on Friday the 16th Joint Ministerial Economic Commission here in Beijing.
The Australian government forecasted the nation’s first annual budget surplus in 15 years on Tuesday. Farrell said one of the reasons is the “terms of trade that we have received over the last 12 months.”
China is Australia’s largest trading partner and Australia is one of China’s major suppliers of commodities. Several Australian enterprises and associations have recently confirmed their participation in the 6th China International Import Expo.
“This last 12 months has been a record year for trade between Australia and China. We think we can do better,” Farrell said.
Farrell said China’s booming tourism and consumption during the May Day holiday was “very good news for Australia and the world.”
“We’re very hopeful and confident that the wonderful places Australia has to offer will attract lots of Chinese tourists,” Farrell said, adding that Chinese people love coming to Sydney to see the Harbor Bridge, the Opera House and have a taste of the food and wine.
As Australia has realized the importance of decarbonizing the economy, Farrell said the country is looking forward to cooperating with China in renewable energy.
“We believe that we can provide the world with clean energy into the future. And we very much look forward to working with China to bring that about,” the minister said.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 16 2023 5:42 utc | 116

karlof1 | May 16 2023 5:01 utc | 116
China culture is so different from anglo culture. Much more peaceful. The paintings on the walls I would ask about. They would try to tell me in English but I could not grasp the significance.
Those about me fear what they do not understand. Like my son when he was young running in terror from the shed cos he saw a snake. I quiet him down and take him back in.
Not that China is a snake, far from it, but what we see is fear of the unknown and the anglo propaganda works like magical unicorn farts.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 16 2023 6:15 utc | 117

In the USA one war pig party is accusing the leader of the other war pig party of taking money from foreign countries. Yep and the Biden Crime Family is in the spotlight.
Jackson Hinkle considers the issue and show us the Republican dirty linen exhibitors hard at it in exposing this shocking crime – focussed on China!! Not Ukraine? Oh I am so disappointed:/
At this rate the trail should take us all the way to the Sea of Galilee, but will the Republicans look that hard :)) :))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n005iegRtrs

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 16 2023 6:21 utc | 118

@ denk | May 16 2023 3:31 utc | 115
Way to flush the F-er out!
“But if you simply have to vote…
Dont touch Fucker Carlson even with a ten feet pole !”

Agreed. Getting fired by FOX isn’t something on your CV that should impress anyone.
And pairing him on a ticket with RFKjr.? That’s just stupid.
RFKjr. should have Dennis Kucinich as first pick for VP and Tulsi G. as second choice,
just as some insurance if/when they off him.
“Somebody should really do an autopsy on Vltchek !”
Wouldn’t bring him back, but yeah, ‘died of natural causes in the back seat of a car
on an overnite trip’ isn’t the explanation. Andre was too hot, too true, had to go.
What somebody should do is an anthology of his writing and make it into a series
for children – mandatory reading before entering middle school in Western countries.
THAT would shake up Social Studies class, eh? Miss him bigly!

Posted by: waynorinorway | May 16 2023 6:34 utc | 119

The US had an agreement with Russia, where large part of the logistics for US troops in Afghanistan went through Russia. In the event of war with Russia, this agreement would disappear, and US troops in Afghanistan would be cut off, relying only on logistics via Pakistan. So it made sense for the US to withdraw from Afghanistan before beginning hostilities with Russia.

Posted by: Passerby | May 16 2023 6:41 utc | 120

waynorinorway | May 16 2023 6:34 utc | 120 Denk
The empire of lies. Agreement incapable. Those that are agreement capable are the likes of Macgregor and Carlson.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 16 2023 6:55 utc | 121

Much is made of Xi Jinping Thought, but it’s just an updated version of Confucianism.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 16 2023 5:01 utc | 116
Indeed it is, karlof1, along with an underlying depth of Taoism, although in violent world conditions it is the first,the upperlayer that is what works for diplomatic relations and trade. As the Australian minister seems to have realized.
I think it is what makes the Russia/China partnership a strong one, because these spiritual paths are parallel to the many spiritual paths present in the former country, which are predominantly eastern.
Spirit is simply breathing; you really can’t get along without it. Being meek doesn’t mean being cowardly; it means being peaceful. Be what you want to see.
😉

Posted by: juliania | May 16 2023 8:10 utc | 122

Yo MoA’ers and b.
Durham, Durham, Durham ..
(Imagine the opening music to the old radio series from the 50’s in the U.K.)
The Devils Gallop
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F2eqX93umXo
So where does the circus go today with the Durham report, last time I looked there had been some me grand juries, are there actual charges against actual Fed employees and going all the way to the WH with Obama controlling it still?
What about Steele’s dodgy dossiers, Will our plucky little MI6 Russiahating xenophobic tub thumper get away from the retribution or will he be thrown under the bus to keep the Holly Clinton Dems alive?
And why did the Hunter Biden investigation Team at the IRS get disbanded suddenly?
Cuddly mastermind super hero/villain , Color revolutionary, childhood Nazi collaborator, modern day banderist backer, Bank of England Robber and all powerful definer of democracy for the whole wide world, whether we like it or not! Claims he didn’t have heart attack and die – them Ukranian organ donor transplants are still coming – drawing a hilarious set of responses to his tweet by many disappointed well wishers below that tweet.
All this and more in b’s next adventurous gripping episode, I hope,
Drum, darrumm , Daarrumm …

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 16 2023 8:18 utc | 123

Those that are agreement capable are the likes of Macgregor and Carlson.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 16 2023 6:55 utc | 122
Being agreement capable should be considered normal, not exemplary.

Posted by: waynorinorway | May 16 2023 8:39 utc | 124

…are there actual charges against actual Fed employees and going all the way to the WH with Obama controlling it still?
Posted by: DunGroanin | May 16 2023 8:18 utc | 124
I haven’t read the report yet, DunGroanin, but the question is not, did the Greeks actually rise up and punish those who persecuted and killed Socrates? The question is, whose teachings make sense to us, those of Socrates or those of Thrasymachus? And who in this day and age remembers Thrasymachus? I do, and what I remember most is that in the dialogue Politeia, in the presence of a small company of friends, Socrates addresses him with Confucius-like politeness, and Thrasymachus blushes.
Justice may be blind; but unlike those three little monkeys, she listens, she understands, and she speaks. As at the trial of Socrates, in Plato’s dialogue Apology, in the final analysis — as those who are attracted to might makes right inwardly blush down through the ages — only Socrates’ voice is heard.

Posted by: juliania | May 16 2023 9:07 utc | 125

My two Clapton cents: Agree best is Cream by far, the Beano album is a very fine white boy blues album but Peter Green with early Fleetwood Mac* was on an other level, 461 Ocean Boulevard is an inspired album and one the the greats LPs of the 70s, No Reason To Cry is worthy. That’s about it for me and EC.
*Fleetwood Mac – Men of the World: The Early Years – go and find it, a 3CD collection and maybe the best white blues ever.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 16 2023 9:46 utc | 126

RFK jr. & Tulsi would be unstoppable. Of course it would be stopped.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 16 2023 9:49 utc | 127

LightYearsFromHome | May 16 2023 9:46 utc | 127
That’s about it for me and EC
I’m sure you’re aware, though many are not, that the remarkable guitar work on the Beatles(Harrison), While My Guitar Gently Weeps, credited to Angelo Misterioso, is actually Eric Clapton.
Remarkable!

Posted by: john | May 16 2023 10:19 utc | 128

@ john
a band with an incredible sense of melody, harmony and rhythm.. they have it all going on.. great track!
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@ juliania
finally finished reading ‘demons’… the last 50 pages was totally unexpected… shocking…

Posted by: james | May 16 2023 14:01 utc | 129

Below is a current Reuters posting title showing the next phase of our un-civilized war that is just as MAD as nukes
The world’s bat lands are under attack, seeding risk of a new pandemic. Here’s where.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 16 2023 15:11 utc | 130

Yesterday I speculated about the Security Council meeting’s topic based on some evidence and inner hunches. Today, IMO I got some confirmation from Lavrov’s remarks to the 40th meeting of the Foreign Ministry’s Council of Heads of Constituent Entities which involves Russia’s regions in the performance of Russian foreign policy. For those who may not recall or never read my speculations, they were about the need to enhance the economic performance of the Near Abroad, the CIS/CSTO nations:

I am glad to welcome the participants of our 40th anniversary meeting of the Council of Heads of Constituent Entities of the Russian Federation under the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
The Council has been working for almost 20 years. During this time, it has established itself, in our opinion, as a sought-after mechanism that contributes to improving the effectiveness of foreign relations between Russian regions. This was the main goal in its creation.
At the last meeting, we discussed improving the international and foreign economic relations of the regions, taking into account the new geopolitical realities. We identified priorities and outlined practical steps, primarily in order to give additional dynamics to cooperation with the states of the Asia-Pacific region, the Middle East, Africa and Latin America. We really have a lot of friends there.
I am pleased to note that our colleagues in the regions, taking into account our recommendations, have launched systematic work to promote relations with our respective partners. I would like to note that the recommendations on new directions for the development of interregional cooperation are of a long-term and truly strategic nature.
I would like to emphasise that over the past period, the level of interaction with the CIS countries, China, India, Iran, Turkey and the Arab countries has increased significantly. I would also like to note the significant intensification of ties between municipalities.
Our Embassy in Minsk actively supports the work begun at the suggestion of the Kaliningrad and Pskov regions and aimed at developing a program of interregional cross-border cooperation with Belarus. It is intended to provide co-financing for this project. Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Belarus Sergey Aleinik is visiting Moscow today. This will be one of our talks with him.
Together with the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia and the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia, we considered the initiative of the Governor of the Lipetsk Region to support the foreign economic activity of the regions at the federal level. Such support is carried out. But in the initiative of the governor of the Lipetsk region, some assessments and tips were formulated on how to make this process more effective. I call on all our colleagues in the Council of Regions of the Federation to send their observations and suggestions on what else can be done through the federal centre to facilitate your external relations with us.
Today’s meeting is devoted to cooperation with the states of Central Asia. Our relations with Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan are built in line with alliance, strategic partnership based on equality, mutual respect, on the basis of the principles of friendship and good neighborliness. They are characterized by an intensive political dialogue. Most recently, all the leaders of the Central Asian countries were in Moscow, took part in the Victory Parade, and met with President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin. Political dialogue helps to develop active investment cooperation, helps to resolve issues that ensure stable growth in trade.
Scientific, educational and humanitarian ties are successfully developing. In the Central Asian region, there are 25 branches of leading Russian universities and two joint Slavic universities (Kyrgyz-Russian and Tajik-Russian). About 160,60 citizens of Central Asian countries study at our universities every year. Of these, <>,<> come from the federal budget.
Along with bilateral cooperation with each of the Central Asian countries, work has been established and is being intensified in the six-party format (CA5 + Russia). On October 14, 2022, the first summit in this format was held in Astana. In April of this year, the sixth meeting of CA5+Russia at the level of foreign ministers was held in Samarkand.
Today I hope to exchange views on what additional steps could be taken in practical terms through the regions of the Russian Federation. We have speakers who have established ties with our Central Asian neighbors. I am sure that the discussion will be useful. [My Emphasis]

Posted by: karlof1 | May 16 2023 16:51 utc | 131

juliania | May 16 2023 8:10 utc | 123–
Thanks for your reply juliania and for others I’ve read but not given thanks for. I ordered the reviewed book and another, Confucian Democracy in East Asia: Theory and Practice, which I hope will deepen my insight into the CPC’s conception of democracy beyond what I already know. The two combined ought to help me further unpack and explain Xi’s three major Initiatives which I see as essential for further Multipolar World development.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 16 2023 16:58 utc | 132

Another Infographic was provided by the Valdai Club to accompany the ongoing discussion about increasing the use of national currencies in Russia-Central Asian trade. Unfortunately, it’s mostly in the form of an image and is harder to translate, although that can be done by saving the image to a file then loading the file into the special Yandex photo interpretation box as I did. For me, the most important info provided was the amount of money transfers from workers within Russia to their home nations as a percentage of their GDP, which is much more than I’d imagined: Kyrgyzstan, 31%; Tajikistan, 26.7%; and Uzbekistan, 11.4; were the only nations reported. As you can see, those amounts are dangerously high for their internal stability, which is why much more must be done to improve their home economies.
Global Times reports on the upcoming China-Central Asian Summit that’s to take place in Xi’an on May 18-19, which will provide some help. Here are some excerpts:

Yu Jun, deputy director-general of the Chinese foreign ministry’s Department of European-Central Asian Affairs, said at a Tuesday press briefing that Xi will deliver a keynote speech at the summit, expounding on China’s stance on how to construct China-Central Asia community with a shared future , eyeing long-term development for cooperation between the six countries, putting forward series of propositions and announcing multiple pragmatic measures and actions.
Yu said nearly 20 bilateral and multilateral activities will be held during the two-day summit. At the summit, leaders will exchange their views on establishment of mechanism, cooperation and international, regional issues of respective concerns. Leaders of the six countries are expected to sign a slew of important political documents on areas such as economic, trade and connectivity, said Yu, adding that President Xi and his wife will also hold a special welcoming ceremony and grand dinner for the leaders and wives of the five countries….
Although the US is striving to pull over Central Asia countries, those countries are always adopting diverse and balanced diplomacy, which China understands, said Zhu. “The cooperation China has with Central Asia is based on win-win result, transparency and mutual trust, respect, thus no matter how Western countries smear and sow discord, it won’t affect China’s ties with the region.”
After the fourth China-Central Asia Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in Xi’an last month, the foreign ministers reached a consensus that all parties reiterated their respect for respective choice of a development path suitable to their own national conditions, firm mutual support on issues concerning each other’s core interests, stern opposition to external interference in internal affairs, and resolute rejection of any individual or any force creating chaos and turbulence in Central Asia.
Li said that compared with the US, whose diplomatic policy is pivoted around serving its own interest first, and keen to foment dissension, China’s relationship with Central Asian countries is the paragon of health international relations.

I look forward to learning what Xi has to say.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 16 2023 18:16 utc | 133

who wants war?
I saw a girl, walking
without a care.
i picked up a rock
named it love
threw it up in the air
the rock shattered
over her head
and became part
of her hair

Posted by: Dingo | May 16 2023 20:52 utc | 134

he rock shattered
over her head
and became part
of her hair
Posted by: Dingo | May 16 2023 20:52 utc | 135
that’s not love you silly fellow
you could have just said “hello”
now she has to wash her hair
coz some strange guy threw dirt in the air

Posted by: K | May 16 2023 23:42 utc | 135

# 136
it’s an absurd
allegory,about attraction.
i meant distraction

Posted by: Dingo | May 17 2023 0:52 utc | 136

ZH has a posting up with the title
Escobar: US Empire Of Debt Headed For Collapse
We can’t link to ZH and I think karlof1 has provided other access to this Escobar posting but I am glad to see it be available at ZH for a bigger audience

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 17 2023 1:27 utc | 137

Posted by: waynorinorway | May 16 2023 6:34 utc | 120
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Carlson’s guest list reads like the who’s who of rabid sinophobic psycho…Ted Cruz, Mark Rubio, etc etc
Exhibit A
Jessie Kelly
‘We dont need no gawd damned gender equal army, what we need are alpha A men enjoy sitting on a throne of Chinese skulls.’
Elbridge Colby
‘Lets provoke China into attacking TW.
the PLA must be permitted to strike as indiscriminately as possible,”
Lets not provide potential civilian targets with air defences, collateral damage will whip up the public anger against China necessary to winning a war,”

A RFK /TULSI ticket

I heard RFK was goaded by Steve Bannon to run for prez, yes, that Bannon. [1]

Robert F. Kennedy helped by GOP firebrand Steve Bannon
Steve Bannon Encouraged RFK Jr. To Run For President
Steve Bannon urges Trump to pick Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for VP if Kari Lake ‘not available’

But,
Kennedy might favor a pardnership with Carlson, his idol

Democrat RFK Jr. Says Tucker Carlson Is ‘Breathtakingly Courageous’ in Wake of Fox News Departure

[RFK also peddle that Wuflu psyop]
!
Freshly cancelled martyred by the deep state, Carlson is ready for the big time. !
[1]
‘This is warfare:’
Trump allies Flynn, Giulliani, Bannon pushed conspiracies at ritzy party backed by Chinese exile
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/19/giuliani-bannon-flynn-lindell-pushed-pro-trump-election-lies-at-guo-wengui-party.html
https://johnmenadue.com/strategists-admit-west-is-goading-china-into-war

Posted by: denk | May 17 2023 4:22 utc | 138

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 16 2023 6:55 utc | 122
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To recap,
Carlson in a nutshell.
Caitlin…
‘Do you see how this works? Carlson portrays himself as an anti-establishment hero who’s sharing knowledge with his viewers that they’ll never hear from the elitists at The New York Times or those fat cats in Washington, then goes on to tell them things that are perfectly in alignment with the agendas of those establishment institutions. Do you see how this tricks viewers into believing they’re getting the inside scoop on what the powerful are really up to behind closed doors, while actually manipulating them into alignment with the long-term goals of the powerful?
I have some overlap with Carlson’s audience because I criticize some of the same things he does like the US proxy war in Ukraine, so some of my readers get confused and upset when I say he’s just as much a propagandist as the empire spinmeisters on CNN and MSNBC. But if you actually look at what Carlson does from day to day you start to notice that he only criticizes some imperial actions which are opposed by right-wing populist strains in the US while continuously sheepdogging that audience into supporting establishment agendas like the cold war with China, legitimizing two-party electoral politics, and keeping everyone fixated on vapid culture war bullshit.
There is no more important goal for the oligarchic empire than securing US hegemony by halting the rise of China, and there is no figure more effective in manufacturing consent for that goal than Tucker Carlson. He gains credibility by appearing to fight the power, then uses that stolen credibility to help manufacture consent for the most high-priority agendas of the powerful.’
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Branko Marcetic
‘It’s telling that, in all the think pieces devoted to Carlson and his legacy since his ouster at Fox, and in the midst of a never-ending panic around misinformation, there’s so far not a single piece of criticism of his rabid China coverage, even in the liberal pushback to the limited praise Carlson’s gotten. That’s because, in a few short years, the entire spectrum of the political and media establishment has become a collection of mini–Tucker Carlsons, quietly agreeing with the host’s China war fever even as they denounce everything else he says.
All the while, the very real and far more influential role US oligarchs and corporate power has played in creating the daily miseries Carlson ascribes to China goes undiscussed — which is exactly the point.
https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/tucker-carlson-is-as-much-a-propagandist
https://jacobin.com/2023/04/tucker-carlson-imperialist-china-hawk

Posted by: denk | May 17 2023 4:42 utc | 139

@ denk | May 17 2023 4:42 utc | 140 with the schmuck about Carlson…thanks
The map of countries on either side of our civilization war is getting easier to discern but the list of oligarchs on either side is a bit harder. The latest shot from Musk about Soros is an indicator of splits at the oligarch level. Soros side will push the war against China/Russia for the money mafia and Musk and some others see the writing on the wall and hope to survive the death of empire into a multipolar world.
Will there be a Public Banking group of Western oligarchs that emerges as the finance crisis evolves or will they stay hidden until after the crash? Are negotiations already taking place behind the scenes?
Will a scorecard of the God Of Mammon folks ever come out? I keep calling out Pope Frank and King Chuck as, at least, titular members but don’t know of banking family names that go back like religions and monarchy do….are Rothschilds still significant?. I ask this because I expect China and Russia are going to want to negotiate with those folks when this civilization war comes to a climax….is Z going to surrender for the West? Biden? King Chuck of Pope Frank? WHO?
Just remember, we think of ourselves as an advanced species.
The shit show continues until it doesn’t…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 17 2023 5:51 utc | 140

Syria talks to USA in Oman rumoured:
https://thecradle.co/article-view/24879/exclusive-us-and-syria-holding-secret-talks-in-oman

A senior diplomatic official in the Arab League has revealed exclusively to The Cradle that secret, direct negotiations are currently taking place between the US and Syrian governments.
The diplomat, who revealed the information under the condition of anonymity, said that “the talks took place in the Omani capital Muscat, ‘the city of secret negotiations’ between Washington and several nations in West Asia.” He also pointed out that the “meetings included security figures from both countries and representatives of foreign Ministries.”
During the talks, Syrian officials mainly pressed for the complete withdrawal of US occupation troops from the country. According to field sources that spoke with The Cradle, around 2,000 American military personnel are present at any given time in Syrian territory across 22 US bases – a figure higher than the Pentagon’s official count of 900 troops.
During the Muscat talks, the source stressed that “the American envoy repeatedly confirmed that he has information that Austin Tice is alive and in a Syrian army detention center. However, the Syrian delegation insisted that it had no information about Tice, with Damascus expressing its readiness to make all possible efforts to reveal his fate.”
The freelance journalist and former US Marine Corps officer was kidnapped in 2012 by armed groups in a suburb of Damascus.
Earlier this month, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken revealed that Washington has been “engaged with Syria, engaged with third countries” to find Tice.
According to The Cradle’s sources, the White House is convinced that Damascus knows of Tice’s whereabouts. However, the Syrian delegation in Muscat did not confirm any information on this matter.
According to sources, Washington and Damascus began secret communications during the administration of former US president Donald Trump. However, these fell by the wayside once Trump stated his intention to “kill” Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in September 2020.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 6:47 utc | 141

Posted by: denk | May 17 2023 4:22 utc | 139
(I only suggested RFKjr. pick Kucinich as a way to show he’s moving in the right direction,
not because I support him or even care about that election. Kucinich grew up on the street and
understands how politics works and seems to be one of the few decent pols in the US.)
I am of the same bent as Andre Vltchek in that link you put @denk | May 16 2023 3:31 utc | 115:

It is essential to understand how the Empire, the monolith, really rules, loots, rapes and controls.
The color of the surface of the machine of violence, the mask that is glued over its control tower, is irrelevant.
Male or female face… Who cares? Republican or Democrat? What difference does it make?
I ignore it, like others who do not believe in some primitive fairytales.
Like my comrades, I have to think about how to get us out of this filthy shit created by the Empire!
For that, I cannot waste time on the US elections!

But, in an easy prediction to make, the US elections will dominate this blog over the next 18 months and drive the Ukraine war to below the fold. Both topics IMO should be relegated to the back pages and we should be talking bigger events taking place in the RoW.

Posted by: waynorinorway | May 17 2023 7:00 utc | 142

Daniel Edgar writes in Southfront with an expansive report on Pakistan and the political contention between its parties:
https://southfront.org/pakistans-ruling-politicians-seek-to-consummate-their-dubious-power-grab-end-up-kicking-a-hornets-nest/

PAKISTAN’S RULING POLITICIANS SEEK TO CONSUMMATE THEIR DUBIOUS POWER GRAB: END UP KICKING A HORNET’S NEST
… Although the nation has been given a short reprieve, with the Supreme Court ordering Imran Khan’s temporary release (at least until the 15th of May, after which the government will probably try to have him arrested again), the dangerous all-out confrontation is set to continue and could explode again at any moment. It appears that those who have been accused of participating in, orchestrating, having knowledge of, or otherwise deemed to be connected to the acts of vandalism that occurred during the protests on the 9th of May (among them, most of the PTI [Imran Khan’s party] leadership) are to be tried in ad hoc ‘terrorist courts’ rather than by the judiciary, and the Interior Minister has stated that the PTI must be outlawed and shut down. Meanwhile, the PTI leadership also remains stubbornly determined to continue on the path of maximum confrontation, setting the stage for more massive and furious street demonstrations which could easily descend into chaos and violence once again. The nation may have just narrowly averted slipping into a prolonged bloodbath last week. If there is a repeat performance, they may not be so lucky next time.

This is a long and informative report that might interest barflies while they take in the music background in the bar tonight.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 7:01 utc | 143

denk #4:42 utc | 140
Bravo and thank you for contrasting the Tucker f#ker war pig and his cover on China hate. He has groomed his profile well and he sure won’t be playing second fiddle the Trump turd imo.
Caitlin Johnstone is superb and as sharp as a scalpel.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 7:44 utc | 144

denk
Thank you.
I caught up with your link to Andre Vltchek and I just have to reincarnate his prose here. In its true form.
I deeply respected that beautiful spirit. He among others, showed the way.

I see no need to know who, from all those already pre-approved by the Regime and therefore allowed to “compete”, is going to get nominated by his or her political gang, and who will be finally mounting the saddle of that static wooden horse which is as a rule galloping nowhere, inspires no one and only jumps around crushing with its heavy murderous horseshoes everything and everyone who dares to demand true freedom.
Go and follow elections; even participate in them! If you believe in Western multi-party “democracy”, good for you! Or bad!
Decades, in fact centuries, of the terrible stagnant political scene in North America and Europe has taught you nothing? Then go for it and stick those pieces of marked paper into a carton box!
It was done for ages, that paper insertion. The same thing, when slaves were being chained and shifted from Africa to that “New World”, when hundreds of millions were exterminated by Western colonialism, when the Chinese people were brought to North America for horrible labor, and treated like animals. It was done when the first and the second generation of Europeans were annihilating almost the entire native population of North, Central and South America, as well as the Caribbean.
The West created elections. So that the elites from within the white race, as well as the white race in general, could justify the brutality with which they have been ruling the world. They need to feel that they are fulfilling the wishes of the world, or at least of their own citizens.
The moneyed and bellicose clans always get elected; there are ways to assure it.

Caitlin Johnstone reflects his style and forthright delivery.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 8:14 utc | 145

China

The new Cold War on China has been heating up for years, but things have taken a turn for the worse under the Biden regime which is significantly more hawkish than both the Obama and Donald Trump administrations.
In January, the top U.S. Marine Corps general in Japan explained to the Financial Times that Washington and Tokyo are “setting the theater,” for war with China. Lt. Gen. James Bierman, commander of the Third Marine Expeditionary Force (III MEF) and of Marine Forces Japan, said Washington is working with its allies in the region to prepare for the coming war with China, much like the U.S. did with its NATO allies following the 2014 U.S. backed coup in Kiev.
“Why have we achieved the level of success we’ve achieved in Ukraine? A big part of that has been because after Russian aggression in 2014 and 2015, we earnestly got after preparing for future conflict: training for the Ukrainians, prepositioning of supplies, identification of sites from which we could operate support, sustain operations,” the general said. He went on to explain this is called “setting the theater. And we are setting the theater in Japan, in the Philippines, in other locations.”
Later the same month, NBC News reported on a memo written by four-star U.S. Air Force General Mike Minihan, the head of Air Mobility Command (AMC), discussing the coming war with China. AMC includes 50,000 airmen and oversees roughly 430 aircraft. “I hope I am wrong. My gut tells me [we] will fight in 2025,” Minihan said, ordering his forces to begin preparing for war with Beijing.
In recent weeks and months, the U.S. has worked on deals to gain exclusive military access to the Federated States of Micronesia, secured an agreement with Manilla to gain access to four more military bases in the Philippines, awarded contracts to begin work on a new radar installation in Palau, announced increased cooperation between American and Japanese armed forces for a future confrontation with China, and made plans to deploy additional Marine units armed with anti-ship missiles along the Okinawa islands.
In April, Washington and Manila carried out their largest ever joint military exercises. 17,600 military personnel took part, including 12,000 American troops. The Balikatan exercises saw more than 100 Australian soldiers participate. The increasing pressure on both Russia and China has seen Moscow and Beijing step up their own cooperation in the region.
Later this year, the U.S. and Australia will carry out the “largest-ever” iteration of their Talisman Sabre war drills. This bilateral military exercise takes place every two years. As Antiwar.com News Editor Dave DeCamp has explained,
The plans for the massive exercises come after the US, Australia, and Britain unveiled their plans under the AUKUS military pact with the ultimate goal of Canberra being able to produce nuclear-powered submarines by the 2040s.
The U.S. Navy envisions AUKUS will turn Australia into a full-service submarine hub for the United States and its allies in the region in operations targeted at China. As part of the deepening U.S.-Australian military ties, the United States also plans to deploy more troops and aircraft to Australia, including nuclear-capable B-52 bombers.
The rhetoric of U.S. military leaders may seem unhinged, but it is now all too common. In February, U.S. Army Secretary Christine Wormuth declared that “we” need to be prepared to fight a direct, hot war against China over Taiwan, and win it. “I personally am not of the view that an amphibious invasion of Taiwan is imminent,” she told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute, adding but “we obviously have to prepare, to be prepared to fight and win that war.”
Her plan consists of sending more U.S. troops and advanced weapons to the region, including hypersonic missiles. She also discussed setting up “theater distribution centers” in the region where weapons and other supplies can be pre-positioned for the coming war, suggesting Japan and Australia would make good candidates.

Right up Tucker Carlson’s alley, I’d say.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 8:50 utc | 146

Following on from my earlier posts above, I have been reflecting on the Tucker Carlson maneuvering and it seems to me that the Murdock clan did not fire Carlson, they actually unleashed him.
Then the Musk clan assisted the new Carlson Unleashed venture by illuminating the @twitter sign above the inn door. Its a two step ploy to come up with a palatable off ramp for Trump and his cult followers and an acceptable candidate for the republicans.
Tucker running strong on @twitter and flogging the msm won’t harm Murdoch clan as they are ideologues and mighty wealthy at that plus Fox can outlast the demise of the democrazy msm.
It may be fantasy but these games are long in the planning and deals need to be cut that are awkward and time consuming in the political world. Endorsing candidates can create high stakes and top price so I guess Trump would want some ‘consideration’ in exchange for a ‘tidy and enthusiastic’ handover of his cult voters. Ditto the republican hopefuls.
Time will tell.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 9:57 utc | 147

John Mearsheimer: Is China the Real Winner of Ukraine War? Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl7goPRw_eE
The Biden syndicate and the woke US MNCs like this: China as a pure profit ATM based on semi slave labour oiled by the liberal Capitalist ccp.
Party pooper: Xi Jinping’s going back to totalitairian Communism with the cCp. Fail for MNCs BUT also for the average Chinese.

Posted by: Antonym | May 17 2023 11:09 utc | 148

Much bullshit in MSM about bats. Next US bio weapon attack imminent.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 17 2023 12:21 utc | 149

denk | May 17 2023 4:42 utc | 140
I have only watched Carlson through links rather than following him so you a likely correct. But what strikes me is than some of these Americans do appear agreement capable.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 17 2023 12:32 utc | 150

“Why have we achieved the level of success we’ve achieved in Ukraine?” asked Lt. Gen. James Bierman.
Same reason the US achieved the level of success it did in Afghanistan. Duh.

Posted by: GT Stroller | May 17 2023 12:34 utc | 151

Antonym | May 17 2023 11:09 utc | 149
The hindutva troll back for another round. I watched a foodie video the other day. Far east India they feasted on sacred cows. And pigs. Give Zelensky a kiss and a cuddle. Clowns like you will destroy your country in the same way Ukraine has done so. Cannon fodder for the US empire.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 17 2023 12:40 utc | 152

It’s a long way from Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton but the song of the day is:
Ja, vi elsker dette landet
I think it satifsfies james’ criteria of melody, harmony and rhythm but if not
it doesn’t matter because it’s our national day here in Norway, May 17.
Gratulerer med dagen to all Norwegians here on the MoA. Hip hurra!

Posted by: waynorinorway | May 17 2023 14:44 utc | 153

hey waynorinoray! it is nice.. sounds like 18th or 19th century choral music for the most part.. i like the video that goes with it, especially the person ice skating! a salute to all the norwegians especially you and norwegian who i know by name..

Posted by: james | May 17 2023 15:05 utc | 154

@waynorinorway | May 17 2023 14:44 utc | 154
Gratulerer med dagen!
17th of May celebrates the constitution of 1814. Sunny as it should be on this day. Last patch of snow in my garden melted 2 days ago 🙂

Posted by: Norwegian | May 17 2023 15:16 utc | 155

Last patch of snow in my garden melted 2 days ago 🙂
Posted by: Norwegian | May 17 2023 15:16 utc | 156
Ha, beat you by a day. I squished the last patch of slush on our property into the ground at 0900 sunday morning.
Cold & rainy here, but the children march and the bands play on!
@ james | May 17 2023 15:05 utc | 155
I’m sure you noticed james that it’s a song about love. It contrasts with ‘rockets red glare, bombs bursting
in air’ celebrating a country’s No. 1 status as the planet’s greatest purveyor of violence.
(Glad you got home safely.)

Posted by: waynorinorway | May 17 2023 15:55 utc | 156

@denk, #139, #140:
@uncle tungsten, #142, #144, #146, #147:
@psychohistorian, #141:
@wayorinnorway, #143:

Thank you guys for a insightful thread of thought on the Tucker Carlson/RFKjr./Sinophobic rantings of late. It does seem Carlson has turned paranoia against China, but that’s only a sign of the time, is it not? I mean, from a position of strength, an antagonist would only be sarcastic and demeaning in referencing the object, but Carlson et al sounds alarming and desperate, as if Empire doesn’t go to war with Chinamen now doom will fall soon. It is a signal of weakness rather than admonition. It’s almost like begging them Chinamen please stop progressing in tech/wealth/geopolitics, or else!!!
He sounds pathetic. But then, he’s only a pawn in the institution of MSM, a nobody in terms of authority or administrative mandate. He doesn’t even have the boldness of outright suggesting the Empire to confront the nemesis, because doing so would put the Empire into a no win position: confront, you get egg yolk on your face because the other side is stronger; backdown, you look like chicken shit.
He (and the guests he talked with, Cruz, Rubio, Pompeo, et al) knows the score: 10-15 years ago when the Empire wants to show strength, it first sends war ships and stealth planes to the SCS region, harass the fishing crews of them Chinamen a little, and flash its middle finger. These days, it sends a carrier, which then obeyed China’s admonishment to get the hell out when a 055C tailed it and issued the order. Yeah, these clowns see the score, know what it meant, and kept their mouth shut about confrontations. Look guys, having clowns like Carlson/Marco Rubio stirring the airwave in America/Europe cause no physical harms. They’ve been doing it for decades. It’s no different from Empire haters in Gaza cursing Empire/Zionist. Washington/Tel Aviv would just laugh it off without sending war ships. Same with China in hearing what Carlson/Rubio/Pompeo have to say.
My concern is actually the implication of these clowns’ antics, which is the likelihood that the Empire is now of a citizenry full of hatred against Chinamen. They are doing this because there is an obvious ! The Empire’s citizens LOVE to hear these talks. The Empire’s citizens are obviously green with envy and scared for their “chosen” status quo. With enough of the Empire’s citizenry turning this way, the Empire just might be compelled to resort to war, nuclear if it comes to that! That, I do worry.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | May 17 2023 19:38 utc | 157

My post #158:
An error at the end. I meant to say :”They are doing this because there is an obvious MARKET!” The word market was left out. Sorry for not editing close enough.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | May 17 2023 20:15 utc | 158

Lavrov was interviewed by Tsargrad TV today and I’ve translated and posted it here. Here’s an excerpt:

Question: Due to my professional duties, I have to read the Western press every day. Sometimes you are surprised. You will learn a lot about your country. In one of the publications of recent days, it is said that the West has ceased to respect and fear Russia, believes that it has isolated it. The isolation will continue. The eleventh package threatens to impose circumvention sanctions for third countries. What is really behind this, apart from propaganda?
Sergey Lavrov: The statement that the West has “isolated” Russia says only one thing: it considers itself the “navel of the earth.” Only this state can explain his current policy.
Attempts by the West to force the countries of the Global South, the World Majority, as they are now called, to join the anti-Russian sanctions, encounter the desire of the overwhelming majority of developing countries to build their policies on the basis of national interests, on the basis of the needs of their economies, and on the tasks of solving social problems. Western policy is failing. Yes, they appeal to the results of the UN vote on provocative resolutions, which they draw up in the Jesuit way, inserting the maximum number of universally recognized formulations there, but somewhere between the lines introducing openly anti-Russian passages.
As in the joke: “It’s cheaper to agree than to explain why I won’t do it.” They voted, but did not join the sanctions. So that only they are left behind. If you are right, you will not impose your innocence on others through blackmail, threats and direct sanctions punishment. Never even in the thought of those who are confident in their own rightness. The West is not sure about it.
If they are “big democrats,” let others decide for themselves. Russia has announced a special military operation. President Vladimir Putin told in detail the history of the issue of where the “legs grow” of this whole problem: from the coup d’état, from the refusal to comply with the Minsk Agreements, the ongoing hostilities, in fact, for eight years against Donbass, against the civilian sector, civilians – he explained everything. He showed that we had no other choice. Some may disagree with this. The West disagreed. Let the rest decide for themselves: who is right, who is wrong, and what position they should take – for the “whites”, “reds” or the position of neutrality. They are not allowed to do this. They are “pulled” every day, they are dictated, they are required to join something anti-Russian. Those who are sure that they are right do not behave this way.
Question: Moreover, they threaten in plain text.
Sergey Lavrov: They threaten and punish them directly. I asked some of my friends from Africa, Latin America, who complain that the West simply “got them” (in Russian speaking), demanding to join the sanctions, what they are offered in return economically, financially. If you join the sanctions, then you lose.
Dull eyes, they say that in exchange they promise not to punish them. That’s all the “diplomacy” with which we started today’s conversation.

In relation to some of the interview’s Q&A, they were also brought up in the presser Lavrov had today which will be the basis for my next comment.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 17 2023 21:13 utc | 159

Oriental Voice # 19:38 utc | 158

My concern is actually the implication of these clowns’ antics, which is the likelihood that the Empire is now of a citizenry full of hatred against Chinamen. They are doing this because there is an obvious market! The Empire’s citizens LOVE to hear these talks. The Empire’s citizens are obviously green with envy and scared for their “chosen” status quo. With enough of the Empire’s citizenry turning this way, the Empire just might be compelled to resort to war, nuclear if it comes to that! That, I do worry.

Thank you. The disgraceful rhetoric blathering from the China haters shames us all. These people hold significant places of public trust and power and yet their entire output is of hate, selfishness and rattling the war machine.
China like many other civilisations is a hugely creative nation. Its list of inventions, mostly of great civil service is extraordinary. It has a deep respect for science and education being applied to human betterment and the attainment of excellence.
If every nation could see the benefits of adopting a similar focus and a synchronicity in the objective of human betterment with their alliances based on collaboration and intellectual / scientific excellence, we humans could build a vastly better world.
Instead the noisy, warmongering, ignoramuses with their selfish exclusivity have the microphone and the bludgeons.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 21:16 utc | 160

Lavrov’s presser was held with Belarus’s FM Sergey Aleinik after their joint meeting. Lavrov’s remarks prior to the Q&A were detailed as usual and although I don’t include them they shouldn’t be overlooked by any means. For example, “Following the talks, we have just signed a joint statement on the common foreign policy priorities of Russia and Belarus.” There’s this one highlight I’ll provide before posting the transcript that again shows Mr. Lavrov’s humor and wit:
“As for French President Emmanuel Macron’s statements about vassal and master, this is according to Freud. ‘Whoever has what hurts, he talks about it.'”
And we could add Zelensky to that too. And now the presser transcript:

Question: Russia and Belarus are under sanctions pressure from the West. The response to these sanctions was the strengthening of allied relations. The priority area is the development of industrial cooperation. Could you comment on this in more detail? What joint projects are especially in demand today?
Also in the plans for the next year is the creation of a single economic space from Minsk to Vladivostok. How will it work? What will be the benefits for our peoples?
Sergey Lavrov: I share these assessments and our commitment to developing integration processes in such a way that they do not depend on the illegitimate unilateral actions of the “collective West” led by the United States. This focus is reflected in the twenty-eight union programs that are being actively implemented. More than half of the activities have already been implemented. This work is ongoing. The main thing is to secure our ties in key areas on which the independent and progressive development of our countries depends in such areas as high technology, financial mechanisms, supply chains – everything on which the security of our countries and the Union State depends in the broadest sense: military-political, economic, technological, cultural and civilisation.
As for the recently announced creation of an economic space from Minsk to Vladivostok next year, this is an artificial reference. If we talk about geography, it should be from Brest to Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk or Yuzhno-Kurilsk. It’s not about terms. For many years, since the signing of the Treaty on the Establishment of the Union State, we have been forming a common economic space. Twenty-eight union programs have become a milestone qualitative stage promoting this task. It is beneficial for the citizens of our countries that we will act on common economic principles, promote common norms in the field of social policy and, in general, equalize the rights of our citizens in all areas. Obviously, this work has made significant progress.
Question: All wars inevitably end in peace. Belarus is making every effort. Does Belarus have its own vision of future post-crisis security in the region? Have you discussed these issues with your Russian colleagues? Will the “voice of Minsk” be heard in the new Yalta or the new Potsdam?
Sergey Lavrov (speaking after Sergey Aleinik): Sergey Aleinik mentioned how, together with many other countries in the Euro-Atlantic region, we worked within the OSCE to consolidate the principle of equal and indivisible security. I would like to note that this principle was also enshrined in the documents on the establishment of the NATO-Russia Council. Equal and indivisible security was proclaimed in the OSCE. It was explicitly stated that no country, no organization in the Euro-Atlantic space has the right to strengthen its security at the expense of the security of others and claim dominance in this geographical region. All this was trampled on by our Western colleagues when a course was taken for the reckless expansion of NATO. We have attempted to translate these solemn “incantations” to which the leaders of the Western world have subscribed into practical deeds. Let me remind you that since the late 2010s, we have been suggesting to our NATO colleagues to codify these principles and assume legal obligations not to strengthen themselves at the expense of others. These attempts were rejected. It was said that security guarantees of a legal nature are possible only in NATO. They will not allow anyone to prohibit any country from joining the North Atlantic Alliance. There was no clear answer to the argument that this directly contradicts the text signed by their presidents and prime ministers.
The last time we tried to put into practice these grandiloquent and pretentious promises in the field of indivisibility of security was at the end of 2021, when, on behalf of President Vladimir Putin, we handed over to both the Americans and NATO members draft treaties aimed at ensuring the security of all states in Europe without exception, including Ukraine, Russia and Belarus. Unfortunately, you know the result. The arrogance of NATO members, who said that no one can dictate to them what to do, was the cause of the deepest crisis in the field of European security that we are now witnessing.
Sergey Aleinik mentioned Helsinki-2 and San Francisco. If we talk about Helsinki-2, it is always associated with the OSCE, the role of Finland in promoting these positive constructive processes, at least in the context of political agreements. If, unfortunately, we cannot translate them into legal ones, then even political agreements created a more positive atmosphere.
But NATO’s reckless expansion not only to the east, but also to the north and in other geographical directions undermines the very prospect of further normal conversation about European security. With the accession of Finland and Sweden (this country, apparently, will also soon gain membership in the alliance) and the practical refusal of Switzerland from its neutral status, the part of Europe that professed military-political neutrality is narrowing. This was enshrined in the constitutions of the States concerned. They created space for finding a balance of interests, compromises between the NATO part of Europe and the Union State and the CSTO. With the absorption of almost all neutral states by the alliance (this process, unfortunately, we see with our own eyes), the opportunity for a constructive policy on the continent with the proactive role of “neutrals” disappears. It’s sad.
I agree that when and if the West “comes to its senses” and realizes that it will not be able to stop the objective historical process of the formation of a multipolar world, then a conversation will be required that is not limited only to Europe. The conference in San Francisco was devoted to global security. We cannot avoid talking about the fact that global security should be fair and equal.
Question: Former Chinese Ambassador to Russia and now China’s Special Representative for Eurasian Affairs Li Hui has begun his European tour. Among the planned points of the visit are Ukraine, Poland, France and Russia. The stated goal is to find solutions to the Ukrainian crisis.
The day before, French President Emmanuel Macron said that this should not be taken seriously, because Russia has “vassal” relations with China. In the same way, our European partners often talk about Belarus’ relations with China. How do you assess the prospects of China’s European tour and peace initiatives? How will they be perceived by Europe and the United States if they make such statements regarding Russia and Belarus?
Sergey Lavrov: As for French President Emmanuel Macron’s statements about vassal and master, this is according to Freud. “Whoever has what hurts, he talks about it.” Mr Emmanuel Macron is known for the fact that it is not the first year that he has been proclaiming a policy of ensuring the “strategic autonomy” of the European Union. It is the voice of one crying in the wilderness. It is perfectly clear to everyone that in practice, the United States will not allow any strategic or any other autonomy of the EU. Back in October 2022, the Minister of Economy, Finance, Industrial and Digital Sovereignty of France, Benjamin Le Maire, shook the air, complaining that due to the actions of the United States in the context of anti-Russian sanctions and the fact that the EU was forced to obediently follow this American illegitimate policy, the cost of energy for European business was four times more expensive than for business in the United States, which led to the deindustrialization of Europe, the transfer of business from the old continent to the ocean and much more. Long before the special military operation, completely regardless of what was happening there, the United States took a strategic course to reorient the entire European Union from cheap energy from Russia to expensive ones from the United States. They have achieved this.
The article in The Guardian newspaper, to which Sergey Aleynikov referred, is yet another confirmation of what objective analysts in the West have been acknowledging for a long time. If Emmanuel Macron is offended that all his calls for “strategic autonomy” in fact result in the EU’s complete subordination to the role of vassals of the United States, apparently he has such a psychology and, according to Freud, he is trying to transfer his “sores” to relations between those countries that retain self-respect, their independence and proceed from the need to promote exclusively equal cooperation, which is cooperation between Russia and China. between Russia and the Republic of Belarus. The EAEU has an intergovernmental agreement with China, everything is clearly spelled out there and, unlike relations between the United States and the European Union, is a document that fixes fair and mutually beneficial principles for the development of relations between countries and relevant organizations.
As for the plan (as it is commonly called) or the position of the PRC on the settlement of the Ukrainian crisis. This is a follow-up to the answers that were given to the previous question about how to build a security architecture.
If you take a closer look at this 12-point Chinese position, you will see that the main provisions of this position are those that are systemic global in nature. This is the need to respect the principles of the UN Charter in their entirety, in an inseparable relationship without any double standards. There is also the need on a global scale to put into practice the very principle of indivisibility of security for all States, which we have just talked about. This also applies to the inadmissibility of unilateral sanctions that are not provided for by the UN Charter, as well as a number of other systemic things that clearly show the position of the PRC. It consists (as far as I can tell) in the understanding that what is happening in Ukraine is only a reflection of the crisis phenomena that are accumulating in world politics and economics as a result of the actions of the West to prevent the objective processes of the formation of a multipolar world. Until recently, the North Atlantic Alliance modestly stated that it was just a defensive organization engaged exclusively in ensuring the security of the territories of its member countries. But now NATO has been talking about its global responsibility for more than a year, that it must address the issues of crisis prevention in the Indo-Pacific region (as they call the Asia-Pacific region) and openly declare the idea of containing the PRC. The aggressiveness of this block manifests itself on a daily basis. President of Russia Vladimir Putin said about the Chinese initiative during President Xi Jinping’s visit to Moscow that there are many provisions there that we are ready to take as a basis. They reflect the objective reality that in order to end such crises like the one that the West has created in Ukraine, it is necessary to agree on fundamental systemic things. First of all, this is the UN Charter, the sovereign equality of states, when no one will be guided by colonial instincts and try, as before, to exploit everyone else in every sense and live at the expense of others. Let’s see what Mr. Li Huiyu will say in the capitals where he went before he arrives in Moscow.
Sergey Aleinik mentioned that there are other initiatives (the Brazilian initiative and the South African President). In both cases, we responded to an appeal to us from our Latin American and African friends that we are ready to consider any of their proposals, dictated by a sincere desire to help stabilize the world order. But so far, unlike our Chinese neighbors, neither the Brazilians nor the Africans have seen anything on paper. We confirmed to them that we are ready for contacts when they are interested in this. It is in our interests to convey the logic, which is becoming more and more understandable to independent observers, to more of our partners on all continents.
Following the visit of the Chinese representative, we will inform the world community.
As for Europe’s attitude to the Chinese plan. She does not hide this attitude. It is the same as on the part of Washington, where everything is coordinated. The attitude is that if Russia said that this can be discussed, then it is not good. It is explicitly stated that Russia does not want to negotiate on Vladimir Zelensky’s terms. There can be no other basis for negotiations. The only plan that the West will promote is Vladimir Zelensky’s ten-point plan, which demands the surrender of the Russian Federation, its trial and the payment of reparations to Ukraine and someone else. Only after that, the leadership of the Kyiv regime will “favorably” agree to sign a “peace treaty”. The West says that this is the only plan that is now on the table and that it supports. Judge for yourself.
Vladimir Zelensky himself declares that “he has no one to talk to in Moscow.” The other day, he once again confirmed this. Not to mention the fact that in September 2022, he signed a decree prohibiting negotiations with the Russian Federation.
We hear “lamentations” from Washington, Brussels and London that Russia is “completely uninterested in peace initiatives.” I’m tired of commenting on this. It was said that they would accept only what would be acceptable to Vladimir Zelensky. It turns out that “the tail wags the dog,” as it was earlier in that American history.

Next, we have the Weekly Briefing by Maria Zakharova to look at.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 17 2023 21:29 utc | 161

The Weekly Briefing as usual is filled with interesting info, wit and remonstrations. And for a change, the Ukraine Update isn’t massively long. The situation in Moldova bears close watching as events in Ukraine are being replicated there and are what I’ll excerpt. These begin with this portion from the briefing:

On the election of the Governor of Gagauzia
On May 14 this year, the second round of elections for the Head of the Moldovan Autonomous Region of Gagauzia took place. The victory was won by the candidate from the Shor Party, E. Hutsul. The corresponding decision of the CEC of Gagauzia on the evening of May 16 this year was unanimously approved by the regional People’s Assembly.
The Russian side respects the results of the will of the inhabitants of the autonomy. Russia has close cooperation with Gagauzia in the cultural, humanitarian, trade, economic and other fields. We hope that the newly elected leadership of the autonomy will continue its policy of strengthening cooperation with our country and Russian regions. For our part, we reaffirm our readiness to further develop ties with Gagauzia, which is traditionally friendly to Russia.
Unfortunately, as in the first round of voting, which took place on April 30 of this year, Russian representatives were not allowed to observe the elections. At the same time, employees of the diplomatic missions of a number of other states, primarily the countries of the “collective West”, received such an opportunity.
We also see that the rejection of the Russophobic and neoliberal agenda, which is alien to them, demonstrated by the inhabitants of Gagauzia, caused undisguised disappointment in official Chisinau. There are calls for the annulment of election results, de-Russification and Romanization of autonomy. The leader of Moldova also “agreed”. And in Moldova itself, the word “Moldova” has not yet been canceled? Has Maia Sandu thought of this yet? She made absolutely incredible statements that the results of the elections in Gagauzia are like this, because everyone there speaks Russian language. And what language should it be in Gagauzia? In Romanian? In the same Romanian, which replaced the Moldovan language, because the head of the country, Moldova, has a Romanian passport and pursues the interests of another country in a sovereign state?
According to media reports, the Moldovan security forces are conducting searches in the CEC of Gagauzia, last night they seized election documentation.
The Moldovan authorities are obliged to respect the choice of the inhabitants of the autonomy, who said an unequivocal “no” to the course of severing ties with Russia. There is no politics or politicization here, but there is a real view of things, knowledge of history and understanding of realities, including in the context of the future.

We now move to the Q&A where two are proffered:

Question: The Moldovan government has initiated a review of the constitutionality of the Shor Party. Could you comment on this decision of the Moldovan authorities?
Maria Zakharova: I would like to draw your attention to the fact that it has already been assessed by the Moldovans themselves, the citizens of this country.
As we can see from media reports, the demand of the Government of the country to ban the Shor Party, which is now being considered in the Constitutional Court, caused a wide negative response in the Moldovan society. This is not so much a question for us. You just need to state the fact that takes place. Moldovan citizens have already responded as they saw fit for such actions. I would like to remind you that we are talking about one of the opposition parties represented in the parliament of the republic. That is, it is a political force that has a mandate from a certain part of the country’s population.
Now it’s not about who likes whom, who belongs to which party. This is the political landscape of Moldova, formed over the years. All this took place through democratic procedures that did not raise any questions from anyone. Everything was not without “rough edges”. Any young democracy goes through different stages of its development. But it was a political process. Is “something” broken in Chisinau now? It seems to me that not “something”, but “someone”. Moreover, it broke down only in one direction – in favor of realizing the interests not of the people of their country, but of the ideas and policies of other states.
Obviously, if the person heading Moldova has a Romanian passport and turns the Moldovan language into Romanian at the snap of his fingers, then apparently he will not stop there and will go further in his “terminator” “attempts”.
People are outraged by another attempt by the authorities to suppress any dissent, to “push through” decisions that do not take into account the opinion of their own citizens. We have already seen this. Do you know where? I gave examples: the renaming of the Moldovan language into Romanian, the ban on broadcasting in Moldova of six Russian-language TV channels. Doesn’t it remind you of anything?
It reminds me that the same “experiments” were carried out on the territory of Ukraine by the American, NATO political elites. Everything is the same: a ban on the broadcasting of objectionable channels – first under the pretext that they are affiliated with Russia, then that they are Russian-speaking, and then they simply closed everything. If the current Moldovan media are “rubbing their hands” because they gain a competitive advantage in connection with the closure of a large number of television channels, then they should look at examples in neighboring countries, in particular, in Ukraine: first they closed it under the pretext that it was a Russian-language channel, and then they closed everything. Only one broadcasting “source” was left, which is being formed on Bankovaya. This is not the story of one country, but a systematic approach. As soon as the cleansing of the information and political space outside the law, logic, historical context and realities begins, then expect that it will only go on increasingly. It will be so there. I am absolutely sure of it.
Is it any wonder that the ratings of the ruling party fell during their time in power – they dropped from 38% to 24%? It is necessary to explain to yourself and to people such a degradation of popularity honestly. This is not because of “Russian propaganda”, not because Russian language is spoken in Gagauzia or Transnistria. And because steps and actions are being taken that run counter to the fundamental interests of the people of Moldova, who speak Moldovan, no matter how it is renamed, and in Russian languages, representing people of different ethnic and cultural groups. Everything that the Maia Sandu government is doing now runs counter to the fundamental interests of the people of Moldova.

And the second Q&A on Moldova:

Question: Moldova declares its desire to withdraw from the CIS Inter-Parliamentary Assembly. What consequences can this have both for Chisinau and for the CIS Interparliamentary Assembly?
Maria Zakharova: I have already commented on the situation as a whole. This applies equally to such ideas, statements, and thought processes. Everything that meets the fundamental interests of the people of Moldova is simply being destroyed. That’s it.
It is impossible to imagine that in his right mind a head of state can rename the language spoken by people in his country to the language of a neighboring state. The most surprising thing is that when the election promises were made, they were of a completely different kind: to defend the sovereignty, independence, identity of Moldova, its citizens, various nationalities, to defend interests, etc. Not much time has passed since the elections. Everything happens exactly the opposite.
Such actions must be correlated with the interests of the country and the people. What will the people of Moldova get from the implementation of such an idea? Will there be bonuses? There will be none. First of all, the damage will be inflicted on the Republic of Moldova itself: its business representatives, operators, citizens, economic and financial structures.
Let me remind you what we are talking about. There are hundreds of agreements in the CIS that are objectively beneficial to Chisinau. They do not work for some lengthy organization or are preserved “on paper”. They are beneficial to Chisinau, respectively, and to the people of Moldova. These agreements were signed, developed, finalized over a long period in the interests of Moldova, among other things.
They reflect the multilateral trade, economic, social and humanitarian relations that bind all countries of the Commonwealth, including Moldova. Abandoning them will be detrimental, first of all, to the people of Moldova.
Why does M.G. Sandu need this? The answer is elementary. It does not act in the interests of its own people, but in the interests of those who stand behind it, who granted it Romanian citizenship, aimed it and this government at breaking regional relations with its historical neighbors.

There’s much more that I didn’t include, indeed the vast majority. I’ve been providing snippets of the Weekly Briefing for over a year now and hope that barflies have learned that it’s very important and not to be missed (although there are weeks when it doesn’t occur) as the information provided is well beyond that emitted by Media, Russian or otherwise. I have one more item to add in my next comment.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 17 2023 22:10 utc | 162

karlof1 #21:29 utc | 162
Thank you I was taken by the role of Lavrov as Micron’s therapist.
Can I have Maria Zakharova for my next therapy session as an hour or two of conversation with such fine minds would be a remedy for difficult times.
The westies are certainly in a pickle and no clear way out given their acute psychosis.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 22:15 utc | 163

This last bit may be short but it’s powerful:
Question: Today, the Russian Foreign Minister said in an interview that the United States and its allies are trying to “put pressure” on opinions so that Yerevan refuses to cooperate with Russia and that the Americans ensure security in Armenia. Can this be considered another example of pressure? They are putting pressure on Georgia, on other countries.
Maria Zakharova: In my opinion, the United States does not have a calendar, a clock, or a schedule for exerting pressure. They don’t check with anything. They just use it for the last decades as the only way to realize their interests. Undisguised pressure and all possible measures, including, first of all, illegitimate sanctions, to ensure that they implement their course. The most surprising thing is that despite the fact that it does not work, and sometimes in the form of a boomerang, the spring with the reverse action returns to them with a ricochet, they still do not abandon this logic.
IMO, Maria’s entire answer could be bolded. Later on in the Q&A she refers again to this pressure the Outlaw US Empire exerts to get its way as it no longer uses diplomacy. It’s 24/7/365 Might Makes Right, but that might is rapidly ebbing and will eventually disappear. When? the world asks. Could be 2030 or before is my answer; the end of Dollar Hegemony will mark the moment, IMO.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 17 2023 22:17 utc | 164

uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 22:15 utc | 164–
Thanks for your reply and for your other comments above. Perhaps you should offer to write Maria’s Biography as a way to get closer. But given the amount of material she must digest daily and weekly to stay informed probably takes a great deal of her time. Now that I think on it, I wonder if she’s ever been interviewed by a Russian women’s magazine. I also wonder how many viewers she’d attract if she had her own TV program.
The dressing down she provided to the Reuters presstitute was welldone as usual.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 17 2023 22:31 utc | 165

karlof1 #165

Maria Zakharova: In my opinion, the United States does not have a calendar, a clock, or a schedule for exerting pressure. They don’t check with anything. They just use it for the last decades as the only way to realize their interests. Undisguised pressure and all possible measures, including, first of all, illegitimate sanctions, to ensure that they implement their course. The most surprising thing is that despite the fact that it does not work, and sometimes in the form of a boomerang, the spring with the reverse action returns to them with a ricochet, they still do not abandon this logic.

As you say “It’s 24/7/365 Might Makes Right” PLUS it is zero consequences in the mind of the USA. I have worked with autistic people who have no concept of action-then-consequence or even 360 degree consideration of consequences befor acting
Sad.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 17 2023 22:47 utc | 166

There has been 2 minutes of jam in Spain. The center of Nato has lost at Madrid the Command of the protocol to engage radio. On 34 – 10 HF. and in LF, 3-14 MHz.
The radio-Tv has been out during 123 s, and we have lost the signal.
Someone is jamming for something. Bad mood.

Posted by: Lulita | May 17 2023 22:51 utc | 167

We are under EW. You have millions. We have thousands of millions.
We gonna be to the end of the sky: We are Spirits

Posted by: Lulita | May 17 2023 23:13 utc | 168