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May 18, 2023
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 2023-118
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Let the apologists commence. Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | May 18 2023 16:26 utc | 1 Ahead of the G-7 meeting in Hiroshima, Global Times highlights the publication by Xinhua of a report entitled “America’s Coercive Diplomacy and Its Harm”, and here’s an initial taste of its contents:
The report focuses mostly on 21st Century events, but I’ll add that the record for such doings goes back to the 19th Century with the forced “opening” of Japan and the USA’s involvement in the Opium Wars against China and of course the African Slave Trade. In line with Xi’s three Global Initiatives, here’re two paragraphs from the end of the report that support them and show their worthiness:
Two more paragraphs finish the Conclusion and there’s much in between. Perhaps the most salient aspect of the report is much of it’s drawn by research and publications made by US based scholars documenting the crimes of their own nation. What the report contains is what China, Russia and the RoW want to stop so humanity can evolve to its next plane of existence and leave the painful, exceedingly damaging Age of Plunder behind. Posted by: karlof1 | May 18 2023 16:44 utc | 4
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 18 2023 16:48 utc | 3 Today’s Global Times editorial accentuates the differences between the current China-Central Asia Summit and the upcoming G-7, “Xi’an injects multilateral clean stream while Hiroshima dumps political sewage”:
The editorial is well structured and its overall content proves its points. IMO, the G-7 is dead as an institution. It will consist of the Outlaw US Empire’s usual bullshit and bluster and meaningless initiatives that get announced but never materialize. Once Dollar Hegemony ends, the G-7 will implode and be no more. Tom_Q_Collins | May 18 2023 16:48 utc | 5– [5] Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 18 2023 17:33 utc | 6 It is now being reported on several channels that
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/63769 Posted by: too scents | May 18 2023 17:46 utc | 8 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 18 2023 16:48 utc | 3 Posted by: Surferket | May 18 2023 17:48 utc | 9 History is being made. President Assad is in Saudi Arabia to participate in the Arab league summit after 12 years of Arab boycott. Arab countries are neglecting western warnings and threats against those who normalize with Damascus. A new era has begun Posted by: unimperator | May 18 2023 17:55 utc | 10 unimperator | May 18 2023 17:55 utc | 10–
The Age of Plunder is ending!! Hungarians are crying over Ukraine’s possible plan to bomb the gas pipe leading to Hungary. “But we’re a nato country! You can’t do that!” Posted by: Mike | May 18 2023 18:02 utc | 12 Matt Taibbi re: Twitter Files from April admittedly Posted by: AG | May 18 2023 18:04 utc | 13 We are all very aware of the evil American empire! But let us not forget the lobbyists controlling this diabolical US congress. Posted by: John2007 | May 18 2023 18:04 utc | 14 Posted by: Mike | May 18 2023 18:02 utc | 12 Posted by: unimperator | May 18 2023 18:11 utc | 15 when you look at the map Posted by: too scents | May 18 2023 18:17 utc | 16 Cmt
Posted by: Don Bacon | May 18 2023 18:44 utc | 17 Don Bacon @17– The easiest way to check if you have been brainwashed is by deep diving into history. Posted by: Derek Henry | May 18 2023 20:14 utc | 19 Krystal Ball Interviews (talks over) RFK Jr (Jimmy Dore) Posted by: Thurl | May 18 2023 20:15 utc | 20 Reuters is laying the tracks for another war Posted by: psychohistorian | May 18 2023 20:17 utc | 21 The war mongering western ruling class. Love nothing more than enticing the lower classes into the faux left wing – right wing battleground. That keeps the lower classes divided. Posted by: Derek Henry | May 18 2023 20:26 utc | 22 @ Derek Henry | May 18 2023 20:14 utc | 20 Posted by: Don Bacon | May 18 2023 20:29 utc | 23 NATO has anti-missile systems at Redzikowo, Poland; Deveselu, Romania; and on US Navy ships docked at Rota, Spain. These anti-missile systems consist of an AEGIS radar and SM-3 “Standard Missile 3” missiles. Of course, these bases need defenses, too. Poland, Romania and Spain all have Patriot missiles. The same kind of Patriot missiles the Russians took out in Kiev. Posted by: Passerby | May 18 2023 20:35 utc | 24 Posted by: Don Bacon | May 18 2023 20:29 utc | 24 Posted by: Derek Henry | May 18 2023 20:43 utc | 25 As we transition into a jobless future, our best option would probably be a devaluation and exchange of current currencies for digital currencies with a transaction fee built into the transfer mechanism. This would provide more complete and granular economic data, allowing more stable economic management. Posted by: Ed | May 18 2023 20:53 utc | 26 sejmon | May 18 2023 17:44 utc | 7 Where is Zelenskyy?
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1658887334706675730 Posted by: Melaleuca | May 18 2023 20:53 utc | 27 @John2007 | May 18 2023 18:04 utc | 14 Posted by: Hermit | May 18 2023 21:00 utc | 28 @karlof1 | May 18 2023 16:44 utc | 2/4/11 etc Posted by: Hermit | May 18 2023 21:06 utc | 29 @bemildred Posted by: Hermit | May 18 2023 21:13 utc | 30 It’s not just conservatives Don. The one party nation state has performed the same trick for hundreds of years. Books that blame Republicans and books that blame Democrats just feed into that left wing – right wing pantomime. To hide the class war being carried out from above. Posted by: Ed | May 18 2023 21:29 utc | 31 karlof1@5 Posted by: bevin | May 18 2023 21:54 utc | 32 China and the Middle East/West Asia Posted by: Don Firineach | May 18 2023 22:03 utc | 33 Where do WE get the funds from to pay our taxes and buy government debt ( US treasuries )? Posted by: Derek Henry | May 18 2023 22:49 utc | 34 Synthesis of all of the above: Posted by: Don Firineach | May 18 2023 23:04 utc | 35 The US State Department is tuning up foreign military sales for “emerging challenges” and “heightened strategic competition.” i.e. endless war
Posted by: Don Bacon | May 18 2023 23:08 utc | 36 Posted by: Ed | May 18 2023 21:29 utc | 32 Posted by: Derek Henry | May 18 2023 23:14 utc | 37 Juan Cole is a partisan Dim party political operative. Others here may remember how he set out to lure Billmon (proprietor of previous Whiskey Bar) away from allowing his blog to carry so many comments obviously critical of the Dims, the result was Billmon closed down comments which led to the opening of MoA, not a bad thing however many posters were lost in the confusion. Posted by: Debsisdead | May 18 2023 23:38 utc | 38 DOD is pleading with Congress for their $842 billion FY24 budget (fiscal year starts Oct 1, and the budget usually is not passed by that date) Posted by: Don Bacon | May 18 2023 23:39 utc | 39 @ Debsisdead | May 18 2023 23:38 utc | 39 Posted by: Don Bacon | May 18 2023 23:43 utc | 40 Deplorable Commisar # 1 Posted by: Ancient Times | May 18 2023 23:53 utc | 41 Juan Cole is a partisan Dim party political operative. Others here may remember how he set out to lure Billmon (proprietor of previous Whiskey Bar) away from allowing his blog to carry so many comments obviously critical of the Dims, the result was Billmon closed down comments which led to the opening of MoA, not a bad thing however many posters were lost in the confusion. Posted by: Ed | May 19 2023 1:26 utc | 42 I wonder why this time almost nobody is worry about Gonzalo Lira destiny. The first time he was detained there was a lot of people asking for him, but this time, looks like nobody really care anymore. Anyone can tell me why this indiference? Posted by: Ocelote | May 19 2023 1:33 utc | 43 Ed@43 Posted by: bevin | May 19 2023 1:43 utc | 44
https://aurelien2022.substack.com/p/into-the-waste-land artificial intelligence Posted by: Dingo | May 19 2023 2:53 utc | 47 Ed@43 Posted by: Ed | May 19 2023 3:18 utc | 48 They call you a conspiracy theorist if you point out inconvenient truths to the narrative then imply motive. Now they will shut you down with what-aboutism when they sling shit at Russia’s move into Ukraine. Now here is more what-aboutism: Posted by: Cofcanuckistan | May 19 2023 3:34 utc | 49 Recently, Chinese authorities gave a life sentence to a 78-year-old Chinese American known for his staunch support of the CPC. The man was accused of being a foreign spy. The harsh sentence confused many die-hard CPC loyalists as they didn’t understand why Beijing punished one of them. Well, Beijing wanted to send a warning message to solve its loyalty crisis: Posted by: Antonym | May 19 2023 5:17 utc | 51 Good morning all from London U.K. Posted by: DunGroanin | May 19 2023 6:10 utc | 52 regarding Derek Henry’s observations, try listening to the Manic Street Preachers’ song “30 Year War” from their album Rewind The Film. It more or less explains the neoliberal anti-worker project, but in a form you can dance to. Posted by: MFB | May 19 2023 6:16 utc | 53 Re: De-Dollarization Posted by: Exile | May 19 2023 6:47 utc | 54 re Ed | May 19 2023 1:26 utc | 43 Posted by: Debsisdead | May 19 2023 6:52 utc | 55 SYRIA’S VICTORY: Bashar al-Assad landed in Saudi Arabia
Kevork has worked tirelessly for years to have the voice of millions of Syrians heard by all. Bravo Kevork and thank you for your efforts and persistence. Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 19 2023 7:12 utc | 56 The Arab League Zelinsky invitation is being reported as an initiative of King bin Salman, not Prince MbS. Posted by: too scents | May 19 2023 7:25 utc | 57 The Bilderbergers meet in Lisbon: Posted by: Apollyon | May 19 2023 7:43 utc | 58 How the corporate multinational climate change narrative replaced ecology: Pakistan today: “Stop equating recent events with 1971. Period.” https://www.dawn.com/news/1753896/stop-equating-recent-events-with-1971-period
Posted by: Antonym | May 19 2023 8:15 utc | 60 artificial intelligence Posted by: jpc | May 19 2023 8:39 utc | 61 disinformation from CNN while the US and its puppets meet in Japan to consider the China “threat” and its “authoritarian power”. . .(never mind that Biden is running loose)
Posted by: Don Bacon | May 19 2023 12:56 utc | 62 Don Bacon | May 19 2023 12:56 utc | 63 Posted by: paddy | May 19 2023 13:05 utc | 63 Posted by: Ed | May 19 2023 3:18 utc | 49 Posted by: pretzelattack | May 19 2023 13:32 utc | 64 Chronicles of Democracy. ” Deplorable Commisar # 1 Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | May 19 2023 14:03 utc | 66 https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/64012
Posted by: anon2020 | May 19 2023 14:12 utc | 67 paddy @64 excellent correction. Posted by: robjira | May 19 2023 14:55 utc | 68 Posted by: Debsisdead | May 19 2023 6:52 utc | 56 Posted by: lex talionis | May 19 2023 15:15 utc | 69 I concur with bevin and debsisdead on the odiousness of Juan Cole, who I proved to be a fraud back in 2010 when commenting at Common Dreams. He supported 100% the Arab Spring Color Revolutions, resulting Rape of Libya and War on Syria, and he lambasted Occupy Wall Street. But he wasn’t the only Obama “liberal” during those years as many lost their “compass” and became what I call Obama/Clinton Reactionaries. From 2009-10, it was easy to tell who was a genuine Progressive Anti-Neoliberal: You condemned Obama for not jailing the Banksters and bailing them out, not ending Afghanistan, and then going onto the next round of Empire building mentioned above. After those two terms, Sanders was seen as a Godsend which enabled him to then become a backstabber. And all that and more enabled Trump–the nation so wanted to see the Swamp get Drained. New polling puts Trump ahead 62%-12% of his nearest (Desantis) competition for the R-Party nomination. Only massive fraud will keep Trump from winning in 2024. Posted by: lex talionis | May 19 2023 15:15 utc | 70 Posted by: anon2020 | May 19 2023 15:45 utc | 72 @0paddy | May 19 2023 13:05 utc | 64 Posted by: Hermit | May 19 2023 15:46 utc | 73 Meeting of the Council on Interethnic Relations, a little extract machine translated: Posted by: Paco | May 19 2023 15:55 utc | 74 Posted by: Hermit | May 19 2023 15:46 utc | 74 Posted by: lex talionis | May 19 2023 15:58 utc | 75 @ Paco | May 19 2023 15:55 utc | 75 Posted by: Grieved | May 19 2023 16:16 utc | 77 psychohistorian | May 18 2023 20:17 utc | 22 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 19 2023 16:21 utc | 78 The Central Asia-China Summit is making great progress building on and complementing relations within the SCO and must be seen in that light. This GT article offers a good recap of what’s transpired. The most important event was Xi’s keynote speech which opened with some past and present history:
Xi then went on to reiterate the main points raised at the virtual Summit held last year marking the 30th anniversary in relations between China and the Central Asian nations. Note how he includes his three main Global Initiatives into the following four points:
More technical aspects related to security and commerce can be read in the remainder of the speech at the above link. The Civilizational aspect present in the above IMO is highly important as the long term goal is to draw all Eurasian peoples together so they begin to see and think of themselves as not just nationals but as Eurasianists. Eventually, this idea will be extended to other portions of Eurasia–Southeast Asia, South Asia, and West Asia. Most of Europe is being omitted from the equation for now as its people and governments need to become free and evolve beyond their Colonial past and subjugated present. Enlightened Europeans know those must occur for Europe to have a prosperous future once freed from its demented present. Ed | May 19 2023 3:18 utc | 49/43 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 19 2023 16:31 utc | 80 Paco @75–
Whether morons or halfwits, as I mentioned several years ago, Western misleaders threw Russian Brer Rabbit into the Briar Patch where all he could do was become stronger and be protected by the patch’s thorns–Divide and Rule has met its match and is being slowly, methodically destroyed on a global scale for the first time ever. ” That sounded like Medvedev, but it was sure enough Putin. Extraordinary. Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | May 19 2023 16:46 utc | 82 karlof1 | May 19 2023 16:24 utc | 80 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 19 2023 16:47 utc | 83 Deplorable Commisar | May 19 2023 16:46 utc | 83 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 19 2023 16:53 utc | 84 Deplorable Commisar #67 Posted by: Ancient Times | May 19 2023 17:01 utc | 85 Someone already posted about the radioactive cloud from the Ukraine DU ammo strike moving westward, and I don’t recall if Patrushev was cited but he’s widely reported today as saying the radiation levels are measurably increased in Poland and the cloud continues to western Europe. Posted by: Grieved | May 19 2023 17:01 utc | 86 All I can say is WOW! to the opening ceremony at Xi’an as shown in this video. What a display! Hermit #74 Posted by: Ancient Times | May 19 2023 17:18 utc | 88 Peter AU1 #84 Posted by: Ancient Times | May 19 2023 17:24 utc | 89 Excellent thread ….. need some time to digest … a few brief points: Posted by: Don Firineach | May 19 2023 17:36 utc | 90 ” Yes, I’ve noticed a small group of posters just gets ignored. In the cowboy interview,he states,the reason for this whole debacle is >>Gun Control<<. The people did not have the necessary "tools" to deal with the situation early on. The real joke was the steel mill. A 12 hour operation max. Putting yourself right on the doorstep of the hostage areas. Wonder what was down there? Hmmmmmm. Posted by: Ancient Times | May 19 2023 17:01 utc | 86 " I'm sure you've also noticed, that no matter the evidence presented, only a small set of conclusions is ever " allowed " to be correct here. Additionally, certain posters are always active no matter the time zone or time of day. Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | May 19 2023 18:15 utc | 91 Don Firineach | May 19 2023 17:36 utc | 91 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 19 2023 18:15 utc | 92 To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. -Henry Kissinger Former United States Secretary of State. Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 19 2023 18:19 utc | 93 ” Idiot troll, there is no diversity in the west. All must conform. Woke Woke Woke. China and Russia have many ethnic groups. Where are the ethnic groups of US and Australia? We killed them. The few left just rot on the outskirts of towns. Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | May 19 2023 18:22 utc | 94 Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | May 19 2023 18:22 utc | 95 Posted by: lex talionis | May 19 2023 18:57 utc | 95 @ lex talionis | May 19 2023 18:57 utc | 96 Posted by: malenkov | May 19 2023 19:02 utc | 96 Posted by: malenkov | May 19 2023 19:02 utc | 97 Posted by: lex talionis | May 19 2023 19:06 utc | 97 The Soviet Union boasted over 2000 ethnicities. Russia still has more than America. Americans have a shallow understanding of race and ethnicity, thinking it mostly has to do with skin color and nose shape. Posted by: UWDude | May 19 2023 19:08 utc | 98 ” Diversity has not destroyed Russia, nor will it, the foundation of ethnic and cultural equality is too strong, unlike America, which turned from anti-black culture up to the late 1990s to now anti-white in the 2010s+. Russia doesnt even have a 10th of the racial animosity between ethnic groups, especially between such large parts of the population, as black white and latino in usa. Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | May 19 2023 19:44 utc | 99 @ lex talionis | May 19 2023 19:06 utc | 98 Posted by: malenkov | May 19 2023 19:54 utc | 100 |
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