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May 24, 2023
Mearsheimers Latest Talk On The War In Ukraine

Yesterday the well known international relations scholar John Mearsheimer gave a talk (video, 1:33h) about the war in Ukraine to the Committee for the Republic.

Mearsheimer made two major points:

Ukraine can not win this war because the kill ratio in this war is in its disfavor. Mearheimer estimates that two Ukrainians die for one Russian soldier but says that many of his friends think that the ratio is more like 3:1 or 4:1. The reason for this is the WWI-style static war in which artillery is the most deadly weapon. Russia has an immense artillery advantage. During an offensive the attacker will often have more casualties than the defender. But in this war the Ukraine side has been (counter-)attacked most of the time while the Russians defended.

The Ukraine also has a much smaller population than Russia. The current ratio is about 5 Russians for 1 Ukrainian. With a much smaller population and much higher casualties the Ukraine will run out of able bodies way before Russia does.

Mearsheimer expects that Russia, which already has incorporated four Ukrainian oblast plus Crimea, will take another four oblast from Ukraine. (I predicted this on February 24 2022, the day the war began. Those eight oblast plus Crimea are historically Russian land inhabited by Russian people. During the last thirty years they have consistently voted for pro-Russian candidates while the people in west Ukraine consistently opted for anti-Russian candidates.) Ukraine will end up as a dysfunctional (and poor) rump state.

Mearsheimer says that there will be no peace agreement in Ukraine. The war is seen by both sides as existential. Ukraine insists of regaining territory it sees as part of the country. Ukraine wants security guarantees from the 'west' which Russia opposes. The problem of hyper-nationalism (fascism) on the Ukrainian side also makes peace impossible. Then there is the problem that Russia, after having been lied to over the Minsk agreements, has zero trust in any 'western' word.

Comments

The fact that Mearsheimer is still allowed to appear anywhere is a miracle. He’s certainly been walking a tight line …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 24 2023 11:30 utc | 32
I’ve been idly interested in Mearsheimer’s lecture circuit since he and Walt interrogated AIPAC, ahem, meddling in “democratic processes” personified by the US Congress, c. 2006. On one hand, I couldn’t help but be suspicious of his status at the University of Chicago. On the other, I’d already formed opinions about privileges meted by US federal and state legislatures to “special interest groups” that categorically contradict idealic perceptions of US American, ahem, constitutional “rights” since day one, 1777; so I did not expect to learn anything from this particular course of inquiry into “real” participation in “representative democracy” and regulation of foreign and domestic “policies”.
The article—and subsequent book tour (2013) —introduced tortious interference to comity among Anglo-american institutional inmates, vitiated the careers of the few “public intellectuals” who did not denounce but entertained political inequalities derived from this particular 1st amendment covered association, and revived a language expressing antisemiticism (theory and practice) from complacent service to a particular class of imperial war survivors’ claims to perpetual, worldwide reparation. Before Don Cheeto irrevocably besmirched the firmament of civilized “social media” telecommunication. And by “tortious interference” I refer not only to John Mersheimer’s nemesis Allen Dershowitz, for example, but Mersheimer’s equivocal criticism (2015) of “conventioal wisdom” that has informed the design (“strategy”) of total world domination by “the west” since Europe’s merchant marines discovered precious metals and exotic spices, harvested by primitive peoples o’er seas who inhabit “the so-called Global South.” Seven years later hearing the same equivocation, wrapped in sophistry provided by Holberg Debate: Ukraine, Russia, China and the West reminds me that Mersheimer is neither prophetic nor a brigand assaulting “conventional wisdom” of his peers. The gist of his arguments is articulating means to improve, if not perfect, tactics to achieve total world domination by the “west”.
Which in turn reminds me in this case that an old saw is a perfectly timeless reality test. Having established that Mr Mersheimer is no threat to heirs and assignees of first world rules-based “conventional wisdom,” the so-called west is haggling over the price. Every hour. Every day. The evidence is all around us.

Posted by: sln2002 | May 24 2023 15:00 utc | 101

The problem with forecasting the future is that there are so many variables, known and unknown, which have been the downfall of success in US wars for the last 75 years.

As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don’t know we don’t know. . . .Donald Rumsfeld

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 24 2023 15:02 utc | 102

@ unimperator | May 24 2023 14:44 utc | 97
that was a good quick read… the insanity continues until it doesn’t….

Posted by: james | May 24 2023 15:06 utc | 103

Mearsheimer was one of the two folks who wrote on the israel lobby… i think the guy is capable of good insights, but no one is perfect..

Posted by: james | May 24 2023 15:07 utc | 104

The Dimitri Orlov article linked above is a solid presentation of the Russian perspective regarding why negotiations are not appropriate at this time. Worth reading
https://lesakerfrancophone.fr/il-ny-a-pas-de-raison-pour-des-pourparlers-de-paix

Posted by: Exile | May 24 2023 15:08 utc | 105

Posted by: Inkan1969 | May 24 2023 14:34 utc | 90
Ukraine voted for peace when it voted in the piano player.
by “Ukraine’s perspective of this war” you mean the West. just as there is no north and south vietnam or north and south korea, there is no Ukraine. there’s russia and there’s nazis. period.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 24 2023 15:13 utc | 106

@ Exile | May 24 2023 15:08 utc | 108
thanks… excellent overview on the idea of arriving at a ‘peace settlement’ which i encourage others to read.. have to use the translate machine to read it in english..
i liked his new term – uk-ruin………….. at this point, that is an accurate naming of ukraine..

Posted by: james | May 24 2023 15:18 utc | 107

orlov puts the ratio of ukraine dead to russia at 10 or 11 to 1.. see exiles link for the exact number..

Posted by: james | May 24 2023 15:19 utc | 108

Frigging John Mearsheimer perpetuates the deception that “Ukraine” has any sovereignty to make any demands of Russia to begin with.
So-called Ukraine exists only as an Anglo-American and EuroNazi sockpuppet, whose existence is to provide imperial cannon fodder for the Americans and their crime partners to deploy against Russia.
There is no “Ukraine” save for what its American overlords dictate it to say or do.
And the belief that the Ukraine war is actually about Ukraine (or a conflict between Russia and Ukraine) is the Goebbelsian Big Lie that the Anglo-Americans and Euros are peddling.
Ukraine is the theater of operations in a proxy World War between the America-led West and the Russia-led Rest of the World. This war is about bringing an end to America’s malignant unipolar world that was spawned with the end of the First Cold War.
All these Western war criminal nations and their imperial talking-heads like Mearsheimer, however, don’t have the honesty to admit this, as this realization might generate mass political rebellion and upheaval within their own borders, even among their brainwashed sheeple.

Posted by: ak74 | May 24 2023 15:23 utc | 109

It is mildly interesing to note that our NAFO buddies have pivoted from anti-Semitic posting to homo-phobic/erotic material instead. Boy, they’re really getting their money’s worth out of ChatGPT. Now, if only they could more entertaining… Maybe do some useful recipes next?

Posted by: irish al | May 24 2023 15:25 utc | 110

Mossad put Ukraine losses at about 390k and RU losses at 65k almost 4 months ago so that’s your ballpark.
It’s pretty obvious to anyone with a basic functioning network of braincells and seeing how the Zelensky’s “eager volunteers in km long queues to recruitment centers” are violently dragged into unmarked military vans off the street.

Posted by: unimperator | May 24 2023 15:29 utc | 111

It is quite obvious that the Russians are losing way more men than the Ukrainians in this war.
Posted by: Mustanaamio | May 24 2023 15:17 utc | 108
Wishing really hard does not make it so.
I think you are delusional.

Posted by: g wiltek | May 24 2023 15:30 utc | 112

“It is quite obvious that the Russians are losing way more men than the Ukrainians in this war.”
When von der Lugen admitted the death of more than 100.000 Ukrainian soldiers, the war had already lasted 280 days, 100.000 dead in 280 days means that on average 357 Ukrainian soldiers die per day.
In contrast when the war was one year old BBC/Mediazone claimed not to have found the names of more than 16.000 Russian soldiers killed in the conflict, 16.000 Russian soldiers killed in 365 days means that on average 44 Russian soldiers die every day.
The death ratio is at least 8 to 1 in favor of Russia.

Posted by: FernandoB | May 24 2023 15:30 utc | 113

There’s no mystery about the origins of the new arrivals at MoA trying to discredit Mearsheimer.
From Wikipedia:
In his 2007 book The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, Mearsheimer argues that the Israeli lobby wields disproportionate influence over U.S. foreign policy.
Guess how surprised I’m not?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 24 2023 15:36 utc | 114

@ Hoarsewhisperer | May 24 2023 15:36 utc | 117
yeah, it is an interesting coincidence isn’t it? i mentioned about him writing the book @ 105… there appears a raft of nuts that have arrived at moa, or is it AI? regardless – you are right not to be surprised!

Posted by: james | May 24 2023 15:38 utc | 115

Posted by: Mustanaamio | May 24 2023 15:17 utc | 108
LOL, you dont even provide a single number to back your insane claim. Lying wont get you far on this website.

Posted by: Boo | May 24 2023 15:45 utc | 116

(Posted by: sln2002 | May 24 2023 15:00 utc | 102)
“A harsh light on America’s Israel lobby” – AlJazeera, April 2006
“The authors don’t talk of the times when they [AIPAC] did not want the administration to sell arms to some countries but the administration did it anyway,” he said. He = Dennis Ross.
Israel stands up to America! and maybe Israel’s gigantic for-profit MIC is also in competition with its benefactor? nah. and isn’t the real problem how often Israel and the US agree on arming some party and destroying some country?
but wait, it gets much worse – here’s Chomsky, unable to grasp that support for Israel in the Middle East oil patch is of no small concern to the execrable US energy industry.
“It would only be necessary to explain to the energy corporations, arms producers and other centres of concentrated domestic power that their interests are being harmed by a lobby that they can easily overwhelm in economic power and political influence.”
Jesus. don’t waste too much MIT think juice on this one, ok Noam? Israel, energy, military. how hard is that?
one other interesting thing about the Al Jazeera piece: how the public discourse in Britain has degenerated re: open discussion of the Israeli horror show. today all over the West, criticism of Israel = antisemitism.
LRB editor Mary-Kay Wilmers, who is Jewish, defended her decision to carry the report and denied that it promoted anti-Semitism.
“We don’t see it that way. There’s a very big distinction between US government policy and Israeli government policy and anti-Semitism has no connection,” she said.
“Government policy is government policy. Almost no one in Britain considers [the report] anti- Semitic.”
She also found American reaction to the report very puzzling and believes that one can speak more freely in Israel than in the US.

one of many measures of how the West is becoming more repressive.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 24 2023 15:46 utc | 117

update:
It is reported that in the morning after passing the Bosphorus in the Black Sea, the Russian project 18280 reconnaissance ship “Ivan Hurs” was attacked by 3 naval drones.
According to preliminary data, the attack was repulsed, the ship was not damaged.
Posted by: ctiger | May 24 2023 14:30 utc | 88

Pretty wild report, I am surprised to learn it’s true. After the Bosphorus, in the Black Sea… Who’s steering these drones and how at that location?

Posted by: NJH | May 24 2023 15:49 utc | 118

Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 24 2023 15:46 utc | 119
this is from the Al Jazeera article.

LRB editor Mary-Kay Wilmers, who is Jewish, defended her decision to carry the report and denied that it promoted anti-Semitism.
“We don’t see it that way. There’s a very big distinction between US government policy and Israeli government policy and anti-Semitism has no connection,” she said.
“Government policy is government policy. Almost no one in Britain considers [the report] anti- Semitic.”
She also found American reaction to the report very puzzling and believes that one can speak more freely in Israel than in the US.

one of many measures of how the West is becoming more repressive – its complete intolerance of any criticism of those Philistines in Tel Aviv.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 24 2023 15:50 utc | 119

⚡️ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (May 24 2023)
◽️ Following the 26 September 2022 terrorist attack on Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are taking measures to protect such facilities. And not in vain.
⚠️ At 5:30 a.m. today, the Ukrainian Armed Forces unsuccessfully attempted to attack the Black Sea Fleet’s ship Ivan Khurs ship, which is carrying out tasks to ensure the safe operation of the Turkish Stream and Blue Stream gas pipelines in the exclusive economic zone of the Republic of Turkey, by three unmanned speedboats.
💥 All the enemy’s boats have been neutralised by standard weapons if the Russian warship 140 km north-east of the Bosphorus Strait.
◽️ The Black Sea Fleet ship Ivan Khurs continues her missions
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
◽️ In Kupyansk direction, aviation and artillery of the Zapad Group of Forces inflicted fire damage on the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) close to Dvurechnaya, Pershotravnevoye, Timkovka (Kharkov region), and Stelmakhovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).
◽️ In addition, actions of two sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been thwarted near Sinkovka and Kislovka (Kharkov region).
💥 Over 40 Ukrainian troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, and D-20 and D-30 howitzers have been neutralised in this direction during the day.
◽️ In Krasny Liman direction, Russian Operational-Tactical Aviation, artillery, and heavy flamethrower systems of the Tsentr Group of Forces hit units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine close to Chervonaya Dibrova, Nevskoye (Lugansk People’s Republic), and Torskoye and Grigorovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
💥 The enemy has suffered losses of over 60 Ukrainian troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, one Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system, and one D-30 howitzer in this direction in the past 24 hours.
💥 Moreover, an ammunition depot of the 54th Mechanised Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has been hit close to Verkhnekamenskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
◽️ In Donetsk direction, units, aviation, and artillery of the Yug Group of Forces have eliminated up to 150 Ukrainian troops, one tank, two armoured personnel carriers, two armoured fighting vehicles, and three motor vehicles during the day.
💥 Moreover, ammunition depots of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade and 112nd Territorial Defence Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been destroyed close to Slavyansk and Grigorovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
◽️ In South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, aviation and artillery of the Vostok Group of Forces inflicted fire damage on AFU units close to Ugledar, Shevchenko (Donetsk People’s Republic), and Malaya Tokmachka, Marfopol, and Kamenskoye (Zaporozhye region).
💥 Total enemy losses in these directions amounted to up to 125 Ukrainian troops killed and wounded, three motor vehicles, and one Msta-B howitzer.
◽️ In Kherson direction, up to 25 Ukrainian servicemen, one Msta-B howitzer, and two motor vehicles of the enemy have been neutralised by fire.
💥 Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, and artillery of the Russian Group of Forces have engaged 93 AFU artillery units, manpower and hardware in 107 areas during the day.
💥 A command and observation post of the 110th Mechanised Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was engaged close to Avdeevka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
💥 Russian air defence systems have shot down one MiG-29 airplane of Ukrainian Air Force near Griogorovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
◽️ In addition, 16 HIMARS projectiles have been intercepted.
💥 In addition, 20 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been downed in the areas of Pokrovskoye, Terny, Kirillovka, Krapivnitskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic), Zolotarevka, Chervonaya Dibrova, Novokrasnyanka, Zmiyevka (Lugansk People’s Republic), Tsvetkovoye (Zaporozhye region), and Rubanovka (Kherson region).
📊 In total, 429 airplanes and 235 helicopters, 4,293 unmanned aerial vehicles, 424 air defence missile systems, 9,295 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 1,100 combat vehicles equipped with MRLS, 4,893 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 10,433 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

Posted by: rumod report | May 24 2023 15:55 utc | 120

@NJH | May 24 2023 15:49 utc | 120

It is reported that in the morning after passing the Bosphorus in the Black Sea, the Russian project 18280 reconnaissance ship “Ivan Hurs” was attacked by 3 naval drones.

Dramatic footage of one such being blown to pieces https://t.me/mod_russia_en/7541

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2023 15:58 utc | 121

@ FromFrance 71
https://lesakerfrancophone.fr/il-ny-a-pas-de-raison-pour-des-pourparlers-de-paix
Thank you for that. I was mistaken to think all the Saker sites were shut down after Raevsky retired.
French sites are especially valuable because there are so few good ones, apart from
(Egalite et Réconciliation)

Posted by: JessDTruth | May 24 2023 15:58 utc | 122

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 24 2023 14:24 utc | 86
You already noted in an Awful Avalanche post that the Pentagon wouldn’t be too delusional to believe such an operation would win. These rebel groups don’t have nearly the manpower for that and never will, rush or not. And they don’t have local support. Reading Junkie also believes that it’s the LGBT Mafia that’s trying to overthrow Assad, and he repeats the rhetoric of United States based fascists in places like here and here, and making claims like “Every field grade officer (to include Intel analysists) who was worth a shit got forced out during the vaccination witch hunt.”

Posted by: Inkan1969 | May 24 2023 16:06 utc | 123

“we just killed 100000 reds!” Joe Biden.
“Caesar and Antony ever do more in their officer than in their person.”
Joe Biden, a mouth full of Big Iron. that same Big Iron took his son and he brags about that too, proudest moment in his life. Kronos devours his children and brags about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NuX79Ud8zI
I don’t like people who brag about killing, they can’t be trusted, but there is a big difference between a Prighozin and a Biden, beside the fact that one sits on his ass and writes rules for MBNA all his life. Somebody’s killing is legitimized by it being self-defense. Biden is bragging about being a war criminal. and perhaps none of it would be happening without his participation.
Joe Biden, killer of giants. look at him slay the US Social Security system!

Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 24 2023 16:08 utc | 124

“LOL, you dont even provide a single number to back your insane claim. Lying wont get you far on this website.”
Why would anyone believe my numbers here? You can google Finnish war history.
I put “Brewster Buffalo kill ration Finland” into google, and the first number I got was 26 to 1. I think I have seen lower numbers, like 14 to 1. Anyways, it was obscene.

Posted by: Mustanaamio | May 24 2023 16:15 utc | 125

I am wondering if our overload could hope for an escalation. This week the club of rome had a happening in the European Parlament (sponsored by all fractions besides id) about the limits of growth, all the green agendas and changing behaviours etc. So i was thinking that what they actually want is some kind of martial law in Europe. It just takes them too long to get through the whole supersurveillance, control grid etc. If they have a fight in front of them similar to the one of the dutch farmers for each country and for every issue its just too much time that passes by.
A distant war with Russia, with close to zero chance of Russian soldiers marching through brussels may just be the ideal scenario. Its just dangerous enough to justify martial law but not close enough to really be afraid. Unless of course they are really afraid of Putin nuking them.

Posted by: Orgel | May 24 2023 16:20 utc | 126

The transfer of fighters to Ukraine as a way to shift the focus from the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Bakhmut. So says the French General Jean-Bernard Pinatel, who headed the SIRPA (Information and Public Relations Service).
The fall of Bakhmut, the Ukrainian Verdun, took place on May 20, 2023, after a 224-day defense of Ukraine, during which Zelensky deployed all his best forces, losing up to 1,000 people killed a day, says Gallagher Fenwick, a well-known reporter on Ukraine.
It was the last strategic foothold blocking Russian forces from reaching Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, the last two major cities in the Donetsk region that have yet to be conquered before they reach their western administrative borders.
This loss could have a serious impact on the morale of the Ukrainian army and its allies, whose media and top-down consultants have so far not stopped declaring the inevitability of a Ukrainian counter-offensive, which could only be successful thanks to massive Western aid, in particular, heavy tanks. .
Obviously, everything had to be done to mask and mitigate this potential negative impact of Russia’s victory over the Ukrainian troops, over the population of Ukraine and over those countries that support it.
Thus, the permission given by Biden to the Europeans for the supply of F16 fighters on the condition that they do not fly over Russian territory is an attempt to shift attention and mask problems.
According to the French general, the transfer of fighters is aimed at realizing the interests of Washington and has three main goals:
1) The European media actively pedal the announcement of the transfer of fighters in order to minimize comments on the strategic loss of Bakhmut, and immediately spread headlines about the qualities of the F16, which elevate it to the level of another “magic weapon” to reinforce the belief in the victory of Ukraine .
2) This news is not capable of truly worrying the Russian General Staff and, therefore, does not increase the risk of a nuclear escalation of the conflict, which Washington wants to avoid at all costs. Actively used by Ukrainian propaganda, this news may have a positive impact on the morale of the Ukrainian fighters, but in the medium term it will not have a concrete impact on the firepower of Ukraine and the protection of its airspace for two reasons:
– Europeans are mainly equipped with the F-16AM / BM MLU version of the fighter, which was produced under license in Europe until 1980 and which is currently being replaced, for example, in the Netherlands by the F-35A. These F16s, which entered service more than 40 years ago, have no chance of compromising Russian positions protected by the S400 system. More importantly, they won’t be able to serve Ukraine for air superiority for several years, because being able to fly a fighter jet is one thing, but fighting it is quite another. An experienced Ukrainian MiG pilot can acquire “acceptable skill” in flying an F-16 within one year. But the transition to “unconscious skill”, that is, the ability to deal with stress “reflexively”, will take several years. Indeed, in an air collision with a Russian pilot, the latter will act “at a reflex level” acquired over several years on the MiG, while at an “acceptable level” the Ukrainian pilot will use the reflexes that he learned on the MiG, since he still has there will only be a “conscious skill” on the F-16. The Mavericks movie is the best educational tool in an emerging reality.
3) This decision is fully in the interests of American industry, since it will accelerate the pace of construction and export of F-35 fighter jets, the unit cost of which is approaching $ 200 million.
https://www.ledialogue.fr/502/Ce-que-révèle-vraiment-l-autorisation-par-Joe-Biden-aux-Européens-de-livrer-des-F16-à-l-Ukraine

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17947

Posted by: Down South | May 24 2023 16:22 utc | 127

According to a source, Zaluzhny, the AFU chief, has suffered head injuries and shrapnel wounds as a result of a Russian missile strike on a command post near Kherson in early May.
Zaluzhny underwent a skull operation after his injury – the AFU chief is expected to live, but will not be able to do his job.
On the same time, ukrainian channel Legitimny states the following:
There is renewed information about Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny that he has been seriously injured, allegedly undergoing surgery. This was reported by the Russian media.
One may be sceptical about this information, but Zaluzhny has not been in public for a long time, which only reinforces the rumours that he is not all right.
A video with the Commander-in-Chief can be recorded by any neural network and other “Hollywood” tricks used by the Office of the President (remember how Zelensky was filmed against a green background and passed off as different locations to enhance the image of Ze-hero).
So the recorded videos are not believable in the 21st century.
To dispel all the rumours and throw-ins, you just need to appear in public. For example, to walk on the Maidan in Kiev. If this is not done in the coming weeks, the rumour that something is wrong with Zaluzhny will be indirectly confirmed.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/47564

The National Security and Defense Council refutes the statements of the Russian media about the wounding of Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny.
Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Alexei Danilov said on Twitter that Zaluzhny reported today at the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief.
The fact that Zaluzhny was allegedly seriously wounded in early May in the Kherson region and he underwent a craniotomy operation was reported today by the Russian news agency RIA Novosti.
“Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valeriy Zaluzhny received a closed craniocerebral injury and multiple shrapnel wounds as a result of a missile attack on a command post near the village of Posad-Pokrovskoye in the Kherson region in early May,” RIA Novosti claimed concerning an anonymous representative of the Russian law enforcement agencies…

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/47578

Posted by: Down South | May 24 2023 16:30 utc | 128

“Israel” also serves to keep people focused on questions of race, religion and nation as the definition of identity. rather than some other concept.
the West gets quite a bit out of Israel. more Hitler than Marx, for damn sure. for one, Israel is an open lab for how to run a country a certain way and its supporters are trying to learn from it. “We’ll be like Israel,” as President piano penis said.
also, as evidenced by Israel, Western gov’ts rightly do not trust each other at all. they collaborate on certain projects, to fight over the spoils in the end. and Israel serves to inflame the delusions of people who think the world runs on some other conspiracy than the one called ‘capitalism,’ the conspiracy they all agree upon, practice and brag about constantly. Israel is useful for confusing people who are convinced they’ve penetrated the veil of illusion and appearance b/c they’ve seen thru the “secret of the Khazars”.
and if Israel get to return to their land, can the native americans take back the casinos on their land?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 24 2023 16:33 utc | 129

Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 24, 2023 at 16:33
native americans didn’t have the concept of private property, so how could it be “their” land? you dumbass. it takes lawyers and courts and banks and brokers to decide ownership. moron. the natives didn’t have a piece of paper called a “title” so fuck ’em.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 24 2023 16:36 utc | 130

Unfortunately the present war in Ukraine is another capitalist war and, as others have said, used to distract majorities in both Russia and the West from seriously considering other options, ways of being, that do not involve subservience to oligarchism. Whether in Russia or the West, the future is essentially a repeat of the laissez faire 19th century with certain meager remnants or oases of socialism here and there. Russia has effectively been contracted to behave as the US egregiously did after 9/11 against Iraq and Afghanistan. The point is precisely that: contract its continued destabilization of the world system and economy to mafia states, from Latin America, Africa, Middle East, and Eastern Europe. In this particular case, the function of this war is destruction of a German sphere of influence and replacement by a more directly American one in the guise of what in effect are Ukrainian and Polish puppet regimes on one side, and a subsidiary Russian pseudo independent empire on the other.

Posted by: Ludovic | May 24 2023 16:42 utc | 131

@123 Norwegian
Many thanks kind sir! I’m glad it was dealt with properly. The location still perplexes me, MOD stated 140km past Bosphorus in Turkey’s economic exclusion zone… The ukrops are really pushing some boundaries here if I’m picturing this right geographically.

Posted by: NJH | May 24 2023 17:10 utc | 132

Posted by: Ing. Smrkovsky | May 24 2023 10:23 utc | 6
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Pfft. That is all.

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | May 24 2023 17:16 utc | 133

Just listened to it. Mearsheimer is great!
What he does – and what most of my fellow Americans refuse to do – is put himself in Russia’s shoes. How does Russia feel? What does Russia want?
Of course its about NATO expansion threatening Russian security. It is so obvious. Not only do we have official testimony and documents from both Russian and American sources (Putin speeches, 2008 Burns memo, etc), all you have to do is ponder if you would want an enemy on your border. We even have the Cuban Missile Crisis as a historic example of when the shoe was on the other foot.
It’s absolutely amazing to me how most Americans can’t do that.
Instead we get a caricature of Putin as a Bond villain.
All I can thing is a) basic inability to see things from the other side’s perspective ; and b) decades of anti-Russian propaganda, from movies to the daily news.

Posted by: Joe85 | May 24 2023 17:19 utc | 134

Posted by: Down South | May 24 2023 16:22 utc | 129
Thanks for that.
The perspective offered by Jean-Bernard Pinatel is interesting in its specifics but either misconstrues or simply glosses over the true causal process in supplying F-16s now.
All NATOs actions are pretty much being read off a ticker tape, in rigid sequence. Maybe there’s a bit of embellishment in the ordering of less critical items but all the major stuff is a playlist.
F16s now simply because the fall of Bakhmut (rebirth of Artyomovsk) is the end of one chapter and the beginning of another (jets, border raids, new ship attacks).
I think that NATO has been conducting a full, but rolling, mobilisation from the moment that Russian forces entered Donbas at the start of SMO. I think NATOs plans were already drawn up for that contingency. I think that talk of approving a “secret” war plans against Russia are simple-minded lies from congenital oddity Stoltenberg, those plans already exist, have existed for ages, are already approved in the sense that vassals have no agency.
I think we can improve our understanding and begin to look beyond the confines of a rather tightly scripted weapon escalation sequence by keeping this in mind.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 24 2023 17:19 utc | 135

I still maintain that this war will not end until Russia conquers all of Ukraine and parks its armies on the border facing Poland, Hungary, and Romania.

Posted by: Monos | May 24 2023 17:21 utc | 136

@NJH | May 24 2023 17:10 utc | 134

Many thanks kind sir! I’m glad it was dealt with properly. The location still perplexes me, MOD stated 140km past Bosphorus in Turkey’s economic exclusion zone… The ukrops are really pushing some boundaries here if I’m picturing this right geographically.

I found a map, showing the location in the Black Sea

🇷🇺💥🇺🇦Location of the incident where Ukrainian drone tried to attack the reconnaissance ship “Иван Хурс”
“>https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/65172

@DDgeopolitics

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2023 17:22 utc | 137

re PJB | May 24 2023 10:31 utc | 7
“Macgregor thinks the death ratio is more like 7:1.”
sorry to quibble but I can believe MacGregor on this one before I believe J.M.
a much higher kill rate would make a lot more sense as Russia’s artillery forces/capabilities were incredibly greater than Ukraine’s, and that ratio has been increasing ever since the war began.
Ukr was always fighting too from fixed positions and getting the hell blasted out of them by artillery, drones and missiles.
this so-called war has really been a slaughterhouse and many hundreds of thousands of poor Ukrainians have been the killed and wounded because of it. Shame on the neo-nazi leadership in Kiev and their masters in the West

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 24 2023 17:22 utc | 138

To people like Jimmy (#13) “What’s the timeline for this?” Who cares? Russia is producing arms and ammunition faster than the West. The US took 20 years to lose to the Taliban. It may take a while for Russia to defeat NATO.

Posted by: Sentient | May 24 2023 17:27 utc | 139

What he does – and what most of my fellow Americans refuse to do – is put himself in Russia’s shoes. How does Russia feel? What does Russia want?
Posted by: Joe85 | May 24 2023 17:19 utc | 136
It’s a lost interpersonal imperative. I can’t think of any relationship in life -. be it diplomacy between nations and its peoples, business partners and competitors, or with spouse, children, friends and acquaintances – that can be successful without understanding the perspectives and priorities of others.
The poisonously elite political and financial class of the West has zero desire or capability to comport themselves in that manner. It’s hubris and ignorance run amok. And, that severe absence of moral and ethical foundation – when involving military and economic superpowers like Russia and China – could very well get us all killed.

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | May 24 2023 17:28 utc | 140

@Down South #130:

The National Security and Defense Council refutes the statements of the Russian media about the wounding of Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny.

I’m so sick and tire of seeing this error. To “refute” something means to disprove it by facts, logic, and argumentation, not mere to gainsay it. It’s a typical Millennial solecism that makes me want to beat my head against the desk.

Posted by: Intelligent Dasein | May 24 2023 17:31 utc | 141

What he does – and what most of my fellow Americans refuse to do – is put himself in Russia’s shoes. How does Russia feel? What does Russia want?
[…]
It’s absolutely amazing to me how most Americans can’t do that.
Instead we get a caricature of Putin as a Bond villain.
Posted by: Joe85 | May 24 2023 17:19 utc | 136
Yeah, but try getting mearsheimer, or tucker, or rfk to put themselves into China’s shoes, and all you get is “Nuke the chinks into a sheet of glass! Because, uhh, Xi isn’t just a caricature of a bond villain, he’s worse! Really! They’re all evil!” And they’ll spin around and do exactly the same to Russia again sooner than you’d ever imagine.

Posted by: Mike | May 24 2023 17:38 utc | 142

Anybody else wondering why all in a sudden all this woke stuff is appearing here?

Posted by: Orgel | May 24 2023 17:43 utc | 143

Re the naval drones

The British, by the hands of the Ukrainian GUR, are opening another Pandora’s box.
Now in this way you can hunt any enemy ships at sea. That is, global security and conditional global red lines are gradually dissolving into the past.
We will not be surprised that civilian / merchant ships can also be attacked in this way (as the Nord Stream gas pipeline was blown up), which of course will increase the price of insurance. Of course, the British insurance corporations will earn from this. Coincidence?
The British use the Ukrainians for their own enrichment and geopolitical game. At the same time, they give “crumbs” to Ukrainians and those on credit.
Britons are handsome, and Ukrainians, alas, are just a game tool with which partners solve their personal selfish issues.
We add that with this attack the Britons also wanted to strike a blow in the Turkish-Russian case and influence the elections in Turkey.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15431

Posted by: Down South | May 24 2023 17:46 utc | 144

War is also vanity.
The depleted uranium shell shipments and now the F-16s being sent. What’s next?
Not F35s (multiple convincing reasons).
But how about a nuclear sub?
How about an airborne nuclear device?
Russia’s tripartite mission statement was the right one for the real task and the plan had been in careful and extensive preparation most likely for a decade.
War is also vanity.
The USA likely did not anticipate much of a need to send F16s and uranium shells and the Patriots.
The USA likely did not anticipate much of a need to send nuclear weapons.
But war is also vanity.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | May 24 2023 17:48 utc | 145

🇷🇺🏴‍☠️🇺🇦 Governor Gladkov said that 7 territorial defense battalions with a total strength of 3,000 people had been created in the Belgorod Region.
A significant problem is the lack of decisions on the legal status of these battalions, which prevents the issuance of the necessary weapons to volunteers.
The region is considering legal options for arming them, Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov said during a live broadcast on VKontakte.
“We have them (self-defense units). Almost 3,000 people, 7 battalions along the border. They have been training since November last year. Already combat-ready units, dressed in uniform, equipment provided. The only thing that, in accordance with current legislation, the issue has not yet been resolved with weapons.
When invading the territory of the Grayvoron District, enemy saboteurs did not have to involve self-defense forces. There were enough military personnel, and this issue did not need to be resolved, but we are now looking for legal grounds (to arm self-defense) in order to repulse the enemy if necessary,”- Belgorod Governor V. Gladkov

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/65184

Posted by: Down South | May 24 2023 17:50 utc | 146

So Mearsheimer is re-stating–tentatively, haltingly, and with trepidation–what most of us on this blog–including b, who has been a bit more restrained–have been confidently predicting since the very beginning of this conflict.
b, Karlof1, Shadowbanned, bevin, Debs is Dead, that SF anarchist whose name i can’t remember, and quite a few others I’m sure i’m forgetting (apologies to all forgotten) have all been predicting precisely all of this Mearsheimer stuff.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | May 24 2023 17:51 utc | 147

“We will not be surprised that civilian / merchant ships can also be attacked in this way (as the Nord Stream gas pipeline was blown up), which of course will increase the price of insurance. Of course, the British insurance corporations will earn from this. Coincidence?”
Posted by: Down South | May 24 2023 17:46 utc | 145
Russian ships are no longer insured by British companies. Part of sanctions, many months ago. These uk(r) channels are getting dumber and dumber.

Posted by: rk | May 24 2023 17:52 utc | 148

Re: Posted by: Ludovic | May 24 2023 16:42 utc | 133
“Russia has effectively been contracted to behave as the US egregiously did after 9/11 against Iraq and Afghanistan. The point is precisely that: contract its continued destabilization of the world system and economy to mafia states, “
Interesting post, I’m guessing you’re suggesting Russia is just a part of this mafia coalition and is now appointed the carrier of the baton of “destabilization “??
Could be, but also could simply be a war. There has not been one Empire rule, no matter how collaborative, savvy, deceptive, militant, rich, or supported has ever achieved “global domination” Nor will there be.
I respect your post, but I think it’s all much simpler, it’s just another war.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 24 2023 17:53 utc | 149

@110
You summarized it perfectly. Besides, this guy is not Russian or work for Russia, so what does he know, besides his Western opinions?

Posted by: AI | May 24 2023 17:57 utc | 150

The preponderance of credible analysis points to Ukrainian Armed Forces killed, wounded and missing somewhere significantly north of 300,000. The ratio with Russian losses, also from the most objective sources puts the ratio at somewhere in the neighborhood of 8:1 – 10:1. This has been a lopsided clown conflict from the very beginning with Ukrainian thug nationalists who continue to entertain arrested adolescent dress up fantasies of being some kind of Aryan baddass super-soldiers, fighting with knives and such combined with abysmally trained, hapless Ukrainian conscripts against the trained, organized, professionally led combined arms military forces of Russia. To me, as a military professional the efforts of the Ukrainian military, their NATO masters and their Tic Tok Army of Soros and US State Department trained “influencers” is amateurish and embarrassing. Just what you would expect from fat-ass Vicky Neuland who has been running this farce since the early aughts and the fawning political neocon lackeys at State and the DoD. Vietnam repeat Syria repeat, Iraq repeat, Afghanistan repeat…

Posted by: Last1Out | May 24 2023 17:58 utc | 151

Why would russia limit itself to 8 oblasts when it could take others for the same “price” it will have to pay? Let blackrock have the gold mines in krivoi rog ? who is the retard that would suggest that. Belarus already wants in to. Ukraine will probably be split in 2 with galicia independent( if it isnt taken by poland), it is the least damaged by the war( least poor) and considers itself a different ethnicity than central ukraine. Ukraine could end up being only the 3 central oblasts.

Posted by: Phariah | May 24 2023 17:59 utc | 152

A significant problem is the lack of decisions on the legal status of these battalions, which prevents the issuance of the necessary weapons to volunteers.
Posted by: Down South | May 24 2023 17:50 utc | 147
Wow… hilariously sad. Team Shoigu and team government do live in Idiocracy. BTW, Prigozhin said he wanted months ago to train fighters for the border in Belgorod and Kursk. Shoigu told him no, get lost.

Posted by: rk | May 24 2023 18:00 utc | 153

From Remylind23 telegram channel, sourced from RIA Novostny….
https://t.me/remylind21/2521
Zaluzhny suffered a head injury and shrapnel wounds as a result of a Russian missile attack on a command post near Kherson in early May – media citing a law enforcement source.
https://t.me/remylind21/2522
Zaluzhny underwent a craniotomy after being wounded – according to forecasts, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will survive but will no longer be able to perform his job, a source told RIA Novosti.
Finally, confirmation….
Looks like UkroNazi Chain of Command is Kaput….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | May 24 2023 18:01 utc | 154

Ukraine loses enough males under the age of 60 so that it faces extinction. This would include ‘voting with their feet’ in running away. Still no effective protest against the slaughter, fragging, open rebellion. They keep on wasting lives in pointless, headline gathering attacks that go nowhere.
According to the latest demographics, Ukraine has only 50,000 males aged 18-30 left.
This is the most likely scenario… Considering that the Artemovsk battle cost the Ukies > 145,000 KIA & Wounded…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | May 24 2023 18:05 utc | 155

Sputnik news
Ukraine Top General Zaluzhny Injured in Russian Missile Strike in Early May – Source
GENICHESK, Kherson Region (Sputnik) Commander of the Ukrainian armed forces Gen. Valery Zaluzhny received a head injury and shrapnel wounds as a result of Russia’s missile strike in early May, a representative of Russian law enforcement agencies told Sputnik on Wednesday, citing Ukraine military sources.

“First aid was provided Zaluzhny in Nikolayev in order to stop the bleeding. He had a cranial trepanation done in the Kiev military hospital,” the representative said.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2023 18:06 utc | 156

Moreover, I find Mearsheimer’s talk at ~23:00, regarding his perception of US diplomacy versus China, to be a rather key moment.
The key word I noted was “contain”.
Contain? Really? I thought the New World Order was all about “Free Trade” and “Globalization”–have our Corporate Media Leaders been all wrong about that, these last 40 years?
“Containment” is Cold War strategy, it’s all about stopping Communal ideologies from spreading into Capitalist spaces, where Corporations are allowed fully-fledged hunting into Labor Union communities.
Here we are, in 2023, and Mearsheimer is nattering on about “containment” of China–the very same China that Corporate US/uk and Germany/France have abused to amass vast financialized fortunes on behalf of their 1% elites.
What sort of “containment” is going on here, precisely? Certainly, there’s no “containment” on behalf of the 99% of NATO ordinary folk.
“Containment”–blah.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | May 24 2023 18:11 utc | 157

Zaluzhny’s lost his mind, and he never walks alone.
The UKR army is beheaded.
Another Russian masterstroke.
Zelansky’s scared to death.

Posted by: la bouteille | May 24 2023 18:11 utc | 158

I’m so sick and tire of seeing this error. To “refute” something means to disprove it by facts, logic, and argumentation, not mere to gainsay it. It’s a typical Millennial solecism that makes me want to beat my head against the desk.
Posted by: Intelligent Dasein | May 24 2023 17:31 utc | 142
It depends on what the meaning of “is” is…
I enjoy your comments, but not sure this is worth fretting over.
According to Webster:
refute
verb
transitive verb
1: to prove wrong by argument or evidence : show to be false or erroneous
2: to deny the truth or accuracy of
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/refute
Many words have multiple definitions or uses. I think their usage is in the sense of the second definition.

Posted by: Phil R | May 24 2023 18:19 utc | 159

It’s Weekly Briefing Day and Ukraine is second on a rather short list, although the portion devoted to Ukraine is longer than usual–far to long to post here in one comment. There are several separate issues Maria brings up of which I’ll look at just two that have recently been the focus of discussion on Ukie oriented threads. The first deals with the Nazism associated with actions of Ukraine and its sponsors/masters where several commentators have tried to strip the Ukie regime and its patrons of their Fascist/Nazi basis:

The raid of saboteurs on May 22 of this year on the Belgorod region, designed to create a false impression among the NATO curators of the Kiev regime about some kind of high combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine – it all failed. All such terrorist attacks will continue to be harshly suppressed. There is no need to talk further about the terrorist nature of the Kiev regime and, by the way, its curators. The evidence is there. When they deliberately target civilian infrastructure and the purpose of this is to sow fear and entrench their hatred of dissent, this is terrorism and extremism. It is he who is now flourishing on Bankova and it is he who is guided in their actions by representatives of the Kyiv regime.
We note (this is also in the same piggy bank as an evidence base) the increasingly aggressive statements of Western officials, who do not hesitate to call for the bombing of peaceful Russian regions. They act despicably because they do not recognize themselves as a party to the conflict. They talk endlessly about helping the Kiev regime, about the need (as they always do) to restore democracy somewhere, bring freedom, etc. Just think about what Western representatives are saying.
Take the statement by US National Security Advisor John Sullivan. In it, he argued that Washington “gave the go-ahead” to Ukraine to strike at Crimea. He even managed to justify this by the fact that (in the American vision) the peninsula is Ukraine. Therefore, they say, unlike the “geographical” territory of Russia, it can be attacked. It sounds cynical, especially if we proceed from the fact that the lives of its own citizens, whom it is going to liberate “in words”, should be valuable for the Kiev regime, and if we remember that for Washington, human rights have been the primacy of American politics for decades. Where are they? Lost in the course of history. At what point did Washington forget that there are living people, civilians, allowing the Kyiv regime to strike at Crimea in such a “sweeping” way? Is Washington aware that there are people living in Crimea, civilians who go to work every day, take their children to school and kindergartens? Or have you forgotten about it? Or is this whole story about human rights only for political science conferences and international organizations, where the United States needs to lobby for its position, collect a certain number of votes in order to legalize its unilateral actions? This is a blatant example that perfectly reveals the true essence and intent of American foreign policy.
For a long time, the Ukrainian authorities do not consider either Crimeans or residents of new regions of Russia to be their own citizens. As a confirmation of the true inhuman nature of the neo-Nazi junta entrenched in Kiev, another statement was made the other day by the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Konstantin Budanov. What were these statements about? Just listen. About plans to physically destroy unwanted residents of the Crimea. He prepared, even gave statistics. According to him, this is 3 million “modified” people, and there will be a lot of work to destroy them. In this, the Kiev functionaries are no different from their ideological idols, who gave the appropriate orders to destroy (as they believed) “subhumans”, people who should not exist and continue the race. It is simply impossible to imagine that we hear all this from people who are received as officials in a number of states. But it is.
A new batch of Russophobic statements was also noted by the adviser to the head of the office of the President of Ukraine, M.M. Podolyak, who wished the Russians to “live like Neanderthals.” The fact that they have Nazi ideology in their essence, everyone now understands. Previously, perhaps, someone still had doubts. Now they are gone. All this is actively sponsored by the West, because it has the same logic. Remember, at first we saw and heard statements (video footage is now available on the Internet, they can be found) of the then President of Ukraine Petr Poroshenko, who promised the residents of Donbass that they and their children would live in basements, and they would enjoy the benefits of civilisation there (under the Kiev regime).
High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell expressed the same idea. In the same way, he divided all people into those who live “in a beautiful garden” and those who are “in the jungle.” From the same “series”. They consider themselves entitled to decide who is civilized and who is uncivilized, and most importantly, to do it in isolation from reality, legal grounds, facts. Among other things, all these representatives of the Kyiv regime are practically illiterate. They were simply trained on Nazi, nationalist slogans. Because of the complete unscrupulousness and readiness to serve any, even such extremist ideology in relation to their own fellow citizens and compatriots, they were “put” to these positions. If M.M. Podolyak had at least something about the planet on which he lives, at least read something, he would probably know that the word “Neanderthals” comes from the name of the Neanderthal Valley. I understand that I will now destroy the fragile peace of Mikhail Podolyak – this valley is located in Germany. I feel sorry for people who make such statements without even understanding the meaning of the words spoken. We are not surprised at this, because hatred of one’s historical roots is the main ideology of the current Ukrainian authorities. Self-denial against the background of absolute illiteracy.

And this second deals with the Plan Ost nature of the conflict sponsored by the Outlaw US Empire as discussed off and on since the SMO commenced:

Another touch to the observance, or better to say non-observance of human rights in Ukraine. As it became known recently from media reports, the Ukrainian State Service for Disaster Medicine, which is part of the Ministry of Health of Ukraine, secretly removes organs from the bodies of dead soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for transplantation in a Kherson hospital. This fact is hidden from relatives. Of course, international structures pretend not to notice such facts and even information. In principle, they do not take this into account. Today I will provide detailed information on this matter.
In Ukraine, mercenarism flourishes. For participation in hostilities as part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Polish mercenaries are rewarded with free plots of land in the west of the country – in the Volyn, Lviv and Transcarpathian regions. The legislation of Ukraine now provides for preferential lending and construction of houses for the families of dead mercenaries at the expense of Ukrainian taxpayers.
This has nothing to do with Ukrainian citizens. No one asks them about it. There are all signs that the West is carrying out a real ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians on the territory of Ukraine. Such a catastrophe unfolding before our eyes can have no other description or definition. Western curators are doing everything for the complete destruction of Ukrainians as a people, a community. First, history was taken away from them and forced to rewrite, then they were simply “corrupted” through corruption, then they were led to a coup d’état, completely violating all the rules and norms existing in the state (which was only forming its institutions). Then they plunged into a phase of bloody internal confrontation. Then they used it in order (as they say) to “defeat Russia.” All this can be qualified precisely as a pre-planned attempt, in addition, in addition to the main goal of destabilizing the situation in the world and countering our country, and also to realize the task that Western Europe did not fulfill in the first third and middle of the XX century. Everything says about it. How can mercenaries be allowed to be sponsored from the budget, who are given land for participating in an armed conflict where Ukrainian citizens are dying? It’s even impossible to understand. I’m not sure that there were such precedents in history (even in ancient history).
Literally carrying out the genocide of its own people, the Kyiv regime gives land to foreigners for free. This is despite the fact that for many years citizens who, due to circumstances beyond their control, were forced to live in several countries after the collapse of the Soviet Union, were denied a second citizenship on the territory of Ukraine. They were told all the time that they could only be citizens of Ukraine. At the same time, people with all passports were “recruited” into the elite. And now it turns out that foreigners can be given land on preferential terms, if only this “massacre” continues. A creepy story.

I’ll point out that Lavrov also mentioned the master Nazi plan at the meeting about security issues I posted on the week in review thread: “In fact, the reckless expansion of the North Atlantic Alliance reflects the intentions that underlay Hitler’s Drang Nach Osten policy.” Russia sees the Nazi reality because they know it quite well, while many in the West want to absolve themselves of complicity with such plans and thus refuse to believe the facts presented. Those within the Outlaw US Empire ought to recall the policy of genocide waged against the native peoples–Yes, it was policy!!!!!! Same sort of policy was directed at the peoples of Southeast Asia and many millions were slaughtered, a large percentage within two nations that claimed neutrality–Laos and Cambodia. And before them it was the Koreans, and before them the Japanese, and before them the Chinese. And now we’ve gone full circle and returned to attacking Chinese and Slavs.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2023 18:22 utc | 160

HardTALK – BBC
Will you welcome Vladimir Putin here right now? … a man who is being investigated for war crimes by the ICC?
WE will welcome him to come here as part and parcel of BRICS but we know that we are constrained by the ICC. Putin is a head of state, do you think that a head of state can just be arrested anywhere?
How many crimes have your country committed in Iraq?
How many crimes has everyone else who is so vocal today, committed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Have you arrested them? You are making a lot of noise about putting a state of working for peace between Ukraine and Russia and you failed to resolve the war.
Where were the weapons of mass destruction? Tony Blair went into Iraq and claimed there were weapons of mass destruction. Did you see anybody standing against that in the United Kingdom? More than millions of people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan and there are no weapons of mass destruction.
We know what the war is about between Russia and Ukraine, we want peace that’s what is important so that the world can thrive.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/65167

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | May 24 2023 18:31 utc | 161

it takes lawyers and courts and banks and brokers to decide ownership. moron. the natives didn’t have a piece of paper called a “title” so fuck ’em.
Posted by: rjb1.5 | May 24 2023 16:36 utc | 131
I liken it to an area I consider my home break. I don’t own the waves but I have priority over the newcomers that paddle out. In fact, if they behave badly, they will be shown what it means to know their place and they will not be “allowed” to surf at our break any longer.
The native Americans had priority of the lands they lived on. If we lived in a just world, they would still be reaping the fruits of their labor. Just because Western culture was inflicted with the sociopath gene and as a result have subjugated almost the entire globe, shouldn’t cloud the fact that the economic system the majority of the world’s population now live under will be the demise of planet earth, or at least the humans on it.

Posted by: Milton | May 24 2023 18:31 utc | 162

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | May 24 2023 18:01 utc | 155
While Zaluzhny may have been part of the war crime committing COC, the real bad guys are Podolyak, Budanov and everyone else who are actually in control of everything (and supervising Zelensky). They have done more than their fair share of mischief to deserve the same vegetable fate.

Posted by: unimperator | May 24 2023 18:34 utc | 163

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | May 24 2023 18:11 utc | 158
So glad you addressed – containment. Language tells it all.
Here’s the meaning of the word: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/contain
meaning nr 1: to keep within limits: such as
a: restrain, control.
I agree with all you said.
TASS on Zaluzhny:
MOSCOW, May 24. /TASS/. The Russian government is receiving information about the state of health of Ukrainian top military commander Valery Zaluzhny but would not reveal anything, Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service Director Sergey Naryshkin told reporters on Wednesday.
“Of course, we receive information, but I cannot guarantee you that this information is 100% reliable. Therefore, I am unlikely to report anything that is beyond the limits of your available knowledge,” he said in reply to a question about whether Russia had information on Zaluzhny’s condition.
Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Anna Malyar earlier denied rumors about Zaluzhniy’s injury on May 10.
https://tass.com/politics/1622565

Posted by: JB | May 24 2023 18:34 utc | 164

We add that with this attack the Britons also wanted to strike a blow in the Turkish-Russian case and influence the elections in Turkey.
https://t.me/legitimniy/15431
Posted by: Down South | May 24 2023 17:46 utc | 145
The British have committed a very serious security threat incident to the TurkStream pipeline, which the Russian ship was assigned to monitor. It is a very serious risk to Turkish economic interests, hence you’d think it would cause some sort of incident.

Posted by: unimperator | May 24 2023 18:36 utc | 165

And damn, this is really stellar work!
Prigozhin’s hour long interview:
– He had recruited 50k convicts into Wagner of which 10k died in Bakhmut
– He also lost another 10k contractor recruits
– Another 20k are seriously wounded
He himself admits those losses exceed all suffered in Afghanistan. So this was the great russian spring offensive? Really magnificent!
Posted by: Ing. Smrkovsky | May 24 2023 11:10 utc | 21″
That’s what is called real war
when you are fighting near peer rivals and not goat herders, you bleed take causalties just as you dish them out.
the west’s expeditions against rabble armed with Ak 47s has created many false notions
which is one reason why the western public is so bellicose
real war is hell, for all sides
even those who prevail

Posted by: Gimbart | May 24 2023 18:38 utc | 166

Posted by: Down South | May 24 2023 17:50 utc | 147.
Posted by: rk | May 24 2023 18:00 utc | 154
At a minimum the border should be under constant surveillance using cheap commercial drones (a good way to safely train and use volunteers) with military units like Lancet crews or artillery ready for fast response. Fast response is an absolute requirement, no way raiders should be allowed to get into civilian areas.
It’s not like there’s some kind of magical inversion law in effect where a bigger raid would somehow have been easier to stop. UA could have sent 10 times more men & materiel, plus MANPADs to hit responding aircraft.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 24 2023 18:38 utc | 167

re refute: Both Intelligent Dadein and Phil R are correct within their contexts. My first-edition OED from the 1900s-1930s (in the cute reduced-format reprint with the magnifying glass) does not recognize the use of the term to mean “to reject [without argument].” This broadened meaning would thus seem to be of more recent vintage; maybe it’s an Americanism?

Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2023 18:39 utc | 168

Iranian President Seyed Ebrahim Rayeesi said on Tuesday that Tehran and Jakarta have agreed to strengthen and expand economic relations and start trading in their national currencies in a bid to end the US dollar monopoly.
Putin – on the de-dollarization of the world economy: Cardinal changes are taking place in the international financial sphere. And I would like to note with satisfaction that Russia manages not only to adapt, but also to become one of the leaders of these processes. We are committed to reducing the share of currencies of unfriendly countries in mutual settlements and intend to work even more actively with partners around the world and in the EURASEC. Including for a full-fledged transition to national currencies. Many other rapidly developing economies of the world, including China, India, and Latin American states, are also switching to the use of national currencies in foreign trade settlements.
https://t.me/s/DDGeopolitics/?q=%23dedollarisation

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | May 24 2023 18:40 utc | 169

From Pepe Escobar’s Telegram:
Forwarded from
Heil Ukraine
​​🇺🇦 Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
Epic events are unfolding in Germany but no one seems to talk about them.
A top ranked German General Andreas Marlow has been appointed to train Ukrainians at an “international training center” but after realising who he is actually dealing with, he contacted the prosecutor’s office and the German MOD to launch an investigation on Ukrainian war crimes against Russian POV’s and civilians.
During his work with the Ukrainian neo-Nazis soldiers he pointed out in particular that Ukrainian soldiers trained at the bases of Wildflecken and Hummelburg repeatedly bragged and showed videos of brutal tortures and executions of Russian prisoners of war, confirming Ukrainian involvement in war crimes.
Although dozens of German officers saw these videos, they were ordered not to disclose what they saw in oder to avoid ruining Ukraine’s “reputation”.
Since many of German officers do not want to lose their official posts, they do not make the facts of the Ukrainian war crimes public.
Funny enough, it gets even worse, Ukrainian soldiers according to the report have showed great interest in the archives of the Nazi SS torture programs and repeatedly asked their German trainees to be familiarized with the archives of the “special methods” used against the Soviet captives during the WW2.
Apparently Marlow is one of the few generals in the west who will not step over his honor and will not accept the policy of concealing war crimes even if it will cost him his position or rank.
He is convinced that the torture facts must be investigated, and the officers should be allowed to speak up on what they saw during their work with the Ukrainians..
Even though Marlow submitted a formal application to Duscha Gmel – the federal prosecutor at the Federal Court of Justice, and a copy to the German Ministry of Defense back in February of 2023, he still did not receive any official response from the authorities.
Source: https://t.me/Ubersicht_Ukraine_Kanal/28280

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2023 18:41 utc | 170

Finally confirmation at the highest levels that Kiev/NATO is engaged in organ harvesting of the wounded

Posted by: Exile | May 24 2023 18:44 utc | 171

I also witnessed the jets that took out MH-17 on that fateful day. The talk back then was the reformation of Novorossiya with the flag prominent in many places at the time, if you were game enough to fly it considering the nazi goons present everywhere. There is nothing new in this article.
Posted by: Bluedog57 | May 24 2023 10:11 utc | 3

Nice reminder! I recall that a UA airman confessed to loading a SU-25 with Air to Air missiles at a field near Dnipro and seeing it return sans missiles. The name of the pilot was even identified. While the SU-25 does not have the speed and ceiling of a fighter, with help from air traffic control MH-17 was directed to the kill zone where it could be wounded by a missile to an engine and finished off with firing the 30 mm cannon into the cockpit – and the wreckage was consistent with that scenario – all memory holed.

Posted by: Drifter | May 24 2023 18:55 utc | 172

Prighozin’s comments are rather funny today:
#1669 We publish a request from the editorial office of the publication “Notepad” and a response:
Hello!
Dear Evgeny Viktorovich,
In the network there was information that a representative of the US State Department announced attempts by PMC Wagner to purchase weapons in Mali. Can you comment on whether this is true?
We publish a comment by Yevgeny Prigozhin:
Yes, indeed, judging by the reaction of the Americans, Mali will now increase the production of state-of-the-art weapons. But while they are doing this, I think we will do as the American analysts suggest, and buy muskets from the Museum of Antiquities in Bamako. Because I’m going to fight President Biden with muskets, just like I did on the Su-24 over Bakhmut. Of course, he can pose as Johnny Depp, aka Captain Sparrow. So it will be a great show. Mali gives us muskets from her museum. PMC Wagner and Mali cooperate on muskets. The headlines in the Washington Post will be great.
So, muskets it will be, the challenge is laid! The USA must have some left from their war with the British too – and it’s much better than nuclear bombs for all of us!

Posted by: Anthony | May 24 2023 19:02 utc | 173

SitRep for today
https://askeptic.substack.com/p/battlefield-update-2023-05-24-1

Posted by: Will | May 24 2023 19:05 utc | 174

[30]
You do write the most arrant nonsense and repeatedly. It is clear you know absolutely nothing of Japanese economic history. Really farcical how you freebase and manufacture total bunkum on a major scale

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 24 2023 19:07 utc | 175

@malenkov | May 24 2023 18:39 utc | 170
Indubitably and most likely deliberately.
It is an American disease. Redefining words to browbeat opponents in the absence of evidence.

Posted by: Hermit | May 24 2023 19:15 utc | 176

malenkov@170
Has there been a similar change in usage of the word ‘recuperate’? I suspect so. I don’t think we can blame Americans either- bad editors and worse journalists in the media are as common on the eatern edge as the west of the Atlantic.
And then there is “Begging the question” -God Help Us.

Posted by: bevin | May 24 2023 19:30 utc | 177

Just a reminder.
The trade in human organs is highly lucrative.
The Ukrainians are more interested in harvesting organs from their wounded soldiers than they are in saving lives and treating wounds.
A good kidney might be worth $1000.00 or more, a wounded soldier is worthless to the corrupt medics, the wounded are stripped of every saleable organ and left to die.
With the tacit approval of the West (another “Western value” the EU is fighting for.)

Posted by: CitizenSmith | May 24 2023 19:31 utc | 178

This talk is very insightful, but good luck having the establishment in “the West” listen to this. Although I don’t disagree with Mearsheimer on most points, his use of the term “the West” is part of a wider issue here. The first epistemological error made by today’s establishment (bureaucratic, media, military, intellectual) is the idea of “the West.” This begs the question, “west” of what? China is to the “west” of the U.S. This idea of “the West” is much the same way “Europe” ascribed itself as a continent (it is not). “The West” typically refers to the U.S., Canada, UK, France, Germany, Australia, Japan. Geographically, it makes no sense. Metaphorically, it is equally absurd. It is a very egocentric and dismissive view of the world. The second epistemological error is that “the West” is on some linear trajectory toward progress. It is on the wrong side of history. It is on the wrong side socially (woke-ism), financially (lost in debt), economically (does not produce anything) and militarily (cannot keep with production and has ballooning costs). “The West” is financially lost, growing cracks in social cohesion, it’s youth enervated, and its vision myopic. Woe is us.

Posted by: Conscious Algorithm | May 24 2023 19:35 utc | 179

It is an American disease. Redefining words to browbeat opponents in the absence of evidence.
Posted by: Hermit | May 24 2023 19:15 utc | 180
And in general destroying language, emotion and meaning. Undefined needless acronyms everywhere. Niche jargon, junior high school slang, advertisement slogans and stale canned phrases instead of information, human experience, nuance and explanation. It’s the only language that uses the word for feces as an all-around noun for everything. Imagine how that would sound in any other language.
A meaningless language for a meaningless culture.

Posted by: Mike | May 24 2023 19:35 utc | 180

Seeing western press use Prigozhin quotes as news today….now muskets at dawn….with Biden no less…..my money is on Prigozhin Wick.
Cheers M
Oh, maybe he gets his own show on Food Network….like a real Iron Chef….with a side of dU of course.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 24 2023 19:36 utc | 181

Gen. Milley said that he talked to Zaluzhnyi a few days ago and Zaluzhnyi was fine.
Less than two months ago, Milley also said that “Russians have not made any progress whatsoever in or around Bakhmut”.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 24 2023 19:36 utc | 182

karlofi
You do a marvellous job. You cannot be thanked enough for all that you add to the work that our friend b does.
Please do not reply, anyone who does not recognise that I am simply stating the obvious is to be pitied.

Posted by: bevin | May 24 2023 19:37 utc | 183

Please, let us not forget Gonzalo Lira!
He was taken the 6th of May
Detaining Gonzalo Lira: Another blow to the freedom of press in Ukraine
WORLD 06 MAY 2023
From Helsinki Times. They had probably forgotten that they had become a Nato member. Probably the last article like this from them, ever:
“The SBU filmed Lira’s arrest, during which heavily armed agents were involved. All participants’ faces, except Lira’s, were blurred out. A close-up of a smartphone displaying an image of Lira’s children as a screensaver was also left un-blurred. Lira is currently detained on suspicion of producing and disseminating materials justifying the Russian Federation’s armed aggression against Ukraine. The edited video shows heavily armed special forces knocking on Lira’s door and aiming a machine gun at the 55-year-old Lira, who opens the door in his pyjamas. The metal soundtrack from Override Spedup fades down enough to hear the words of a special forces member telling Lira while tapping his arm: “Welcome to Ukraine.”
While it is true that Lira has criticised the Zelensky regime and the eight-year-long shelling of Donbas residents by Kyiv, he has not participated in any activities other than exercising his right to free speech as a citizen and respected journalist. Whether or not we agree with Lira’s opinions, freedom of speech must not be restricted, especially during times of conflict. These are the values we claim to be defending.
Ukraine’s recent implementation of laws criminalising dissent, banning opposition political parties, nationalising the media, and even persecuting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church for maintaining canonical communion with Moscow has raised concerns among free speech advocates. These actions have been criticised for undermining democratic values and creating a chilling effect on freedom of expression.”
https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/23512-detaining-gonzalo-lira-another-blow-to-the-freedom-of-press-in-ukraine.html
BUT: lets not forget him but mention his name every day.
SlavaLIRA

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 24 2023 19:43 utc | 184

The lecture was closer to fact than most western commentators but still inaccurate in my opinion. He speaks of existential threats but does not clarify the levels of that threat. A war of annihilation or the destruction of a State….being torn to bits and its body politic being replaced by the conqueror is hardly on par with the destruction of a bloated archaic treaty organization that basically is designed to keep the Soviets out… Germany down and the U.S military industrial complex in Europe…for all intents and purpose an occupation force. Ukraine….yes Russia is now an existential threat but it wasn’t always. Next he dragged out the whole democracy versus totalitarian State bullshit argument….once i would like to hear someone clarify what a constitutional republic is….maybe use the term oligarchy in lieu of. His Russian losses numbers where inaccurate as well. I think the F-16 hype is a way for the F-35 program to push for sales to replace the fighting Falcons…in European inventories after they are compelled to release them to Ukraine. Speaking of F-35…We had 2 RAF F-35 fighters land in central British Columbia yesterday for fuel…. unannounced while it’s support airlift…. probably C-17 did pylon turns 40km north. The pilots had all insignia and identification removed from their flight suits…264 nautical miles from CFB Comox and 19 wing and 430 nautical miles from 4 wing at CFB Cold Lake. Unusual happenings

Posted by: Joe | May 24 2023 19:45 utc | 185

OK, so there will be a counteroffensive. What for? Is the idea to capture Crimea, like last time on April 1, only this time in 2024? Or is the idea to create panic in Russia to bring about that equally long-awaited regime change? Or is it going to be a counteroffensive for the sake of a counteroffensive? Or maybe the idea is to mask the panic that has gripped the Western elites. What?

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 24 2023 19:46 utc | 186

The counteroffensive is so obsessive that its only purpose will be to project strength and then all the bets are off. Nukes are not to be excluded. In fact, as soon as NATO gets directly involved you can almost take it to the bank. And will NATO get involved? The answer is wrapped in that question: Where is Valery? Nobody is willing to talk about his state of health. Oops!

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 24 2023 19:58 utc | 187

I’ve followed Mearsheimer when he says that he’s a realistic, what he really means is that he’s still an imperialist, he’s just a little more cautious about who he attacks. However, he has two giant gaping holes in his geo-strategic theory of international relations
1. He honestly believes that every nation on earth would behave exactly the same as the American nation. Anyone who has study history would immediately recognize that different states and cultures behave vastly differently and do have distinct views on how inter-state relations should be organized (China, Russia and Iran are all famous for how different their cultures view inter-state relations compared to the West). Mearsheimer isn’t just euro-centric, he is Ameri-centric and views post-WW 2 American behavior as the norm for the world
2. He thinks of states as rational actors (he mentions this a lot in his lectures). In reality, states are ONLY tools of elites created to better organize the extraction and concentration of wealth and power over a geographical region. if the elites as a whole are rational, then the state itself will behave more or less rationally. However, if the elites are irrational, then the state itself will similarity irrational and the elites in the West are irrational, violent, corrupt and insane. Mearsheimer tries to play this off as the West making a simple miscalculation on what it should do, but no, the West is behaving irrationally, because the elites in the West are fundamentally unfit to lead.
from watching Mearsheimer it’s clear to me that he is living in the past and in denial about how the quality of the western elite have decayed over the past 30 years. I suspect that off the record he would admit that western political leadership has declined over the past few decades, but that is only temporary and the west will eventually right itself and resume world leadership. he would never admit that this decline is irreversible and as being caused by systemic corruption in the Western system. in this sense Mearsheimer isn’t the reformer trying to steer the Western ship away from the rocks of reality, more like a weak willed ensign who recognizes a disaster when he sees it, but stays quiet out of a sense of normality.

Posted by: Kadath | May 24 2023 20:05 utc | 188

Kadath | May 24 2023 20:05 utc | 190
You are right! 🙂

Posted by: ostro | May 24 2023 20:08 utc | 189

@Arch Bungle | May 24 2023 11:15 utc | 25
LOL. My partner says that even their page 2 girls are not as hyperinflated as their breathless reporting on the Ukraine.

Posted by: Hermit | May 24 2023 20:12 utc | 190

Mearschimer’s math is way off. Kill ratio is a t least 7 to 1. Some days much higher. Ukraine’s population has fled an they are not coming back. Estimates are between 16 and 18 million remain in Ukraine vs.155 million Russians plus at least another 2 million refugees.
He is right that Ukraine can’t win. Why the Russian hating neocons ever thought they could is troubling.

Posted by: Carol Davidek Waller | May 24 2023 20:15 utc | 191

Posted by: Inkan1969 | May 24 2023 14:34 utc | 90
Geography please. Viet Nam was not along the border of Mainland USA.
Russia can not and will not lose in Ukraine.
Zelensky is waiting to have his skull crushed. His second “World Tour”, yet to be announced, is not selling any tickets.
European and U.S. War Mongers and Politicians are running out of old junk to launder their own taxpayer’s dollars into their own pockets. Ukraine owes $130 Billion for the purchase of $13 Billion in Scrap Iron. And the U.S.A. is running out of expensive Miracles to yank out of the old Gunny Sack.
What if Russia knows where Zelensky, Biden, Trudeau, Schmitt, Macron, and that Fake PM of Britain are at every minute of the day.

Posted by: kupkee | May 24 2023 20:15 utc | 192

@ Jonathan W | May 24 2023 19:36 utc | 184
re: Gen. Milley said that he talked to Zaluzhnyi a few days ago and Zaluzhnyi was fine.
Where did you see that? Without a proper link it is unbelievable nonsense, a waste of time and space.

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 24 2023 20:19 utc | 193

Jörgen Hassler | May 24 2023 12:47 utc | 57
[EU] *** Let Ukraine join! 888
They’d be clapping all over Europe.
Much to the joy of big pharma….

Posted by: Cynic | May 24 2023 20:34 utc | 194

Off shift. Getting a happy hour beer in before hitting the road. *Just kidding, for the gullible. I’m a civilian. Honest. Would I lie to you? Honey?*
JM is a serious thinker. It’s hilarious seeing the hoi polloi brew crew and Internet tough guys trying to shit on him. And no, I’m not all over him being a Woop. (Just like it wasn’t special to me that Carter Page was a Trident at USNA…after all “Poly sci, QPR high”.) What he really has done is serious historical research and writing. However, a little time in the service is not a bad thing before going down the academic path. And for that matter, the best JOs get out (the Navy has done studies on this) and there is actually an inverse Darwininan selection. Guys who value the 20 year retirement are not the best, not the ones going to McKinsey or getting Ph.D.’s or the like. (Population argument of course.) Of course, the number of people here that could write cogent, tight historical analyses is vanishingly small. (And not me, either. More into technical topics, SIGINT.)
1. I thought his equality of will was the weakest argument. I mean if the Turks are attacking Vienna, who do you think has more will, the Turks or the Austrians? Don’t you think Russians would be more enthusiastic if they were defending Moscow versus “special military operation”ing? Add onto that the evidence we’ve occasionally seen of non-Wagner reluctance to fight. Of course having higher will doesn’t mean you will win. Conquests happen. The Romans captures Masada. But it wasn’t from more will. It was from more means.
2. The artillery is probably the strongest point. Although, I do think the EXCELLENT point by a commenter here was interesting. Are they just pounding ground or sending effective hits? Given what we know of issues with Russian competence as well as ISR, I would not be sanguine.
3. The population thing is a medium point. I mean sure. All that said, we’re still well under the types of KIAs/population seen in WW1, WW2, or the War of Northern Aggression (VA has a lot of history there…) So, given we are still not that deep into the kills, I’m not sure, exhaustion of manpower is the key point, yet. Need some math, JM!
4. I think he is making too much of the peace treaty versus frozen conflict. Strange for a “realist”. If I’m a human being or a businessman, I just want the fight to stop. Not get into this minutia…that really doesn’t reflect objective realist reality anyhow.
5. He had an excellent point on the ethnic cleansing. It will happen/is happening.
6. I would not get too worried about extreme statements by Putin OR by Z. That is normal in negotiations. Both have internal face to consider also. But in the (as the British say) fullness of time, positions can shift. Especially when compelled.
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I do want the war to end. I think it is a tragedy. Also, I think for all the “had no options”, Putin made two mistakes. (1) Not just sucking up the shit sandwich and going to war…look how that worked for us in Iraq. and (2) once he was going to do it, he should have gone Genghis Khan and taken Kiev. Big, big fuckup.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24 2023 20:36 utc | 195

Posted by: Mike | May 24 2023 19:35 utc | 182

And in general destroying language, emotion and meaning. Undefined needless acronyms everywhere. Niche jargon, junior high school slang, advertisement slogans and stale canned phrases instead of information, human experience, nuance and explanation. It’s the only language that uses the word for feces as an all-around noun for everything. Imagine how that would sound in any other language.
A meaningless language for a meaningless culture.

Faces? Is that how the gringos spell faeces? Their spelling is just as awful as their language.

Posted by: Lengai | May 24 2023 20:37 utc | 196

An analysis of Ukraine’s losses during the battle of Artemovsk…
https://t-me.translate.goog/milchronicles?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
What is important to understand about the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemovsk: Analysis of the Military Chronicle
On May 20, the end of the battle for Artemovsk was announced. The city came under the control of Wagner PMC units, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine withdrew from all fortified areas to the suburbs in the Artyomovsky direction. During the 224 days of the battle for Artyomovsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have lost a significant part of their units, which cannot be restored at the moment.
What forces did the Armed Forces of Ukraine have before the start of the Bakhmut meat grinder
Before the active phase of hostilities in the Artyomovsky direction, the garrison of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the city consisted of several dozen units. The brigades and battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that survived the battles retreated after the defeat near Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, Popasnaya and Svetlodarsk. The total number of all units around Artemovsk and in the nearest settlements by the end of July – beginning of August 2022 was approximately 35-40 thousand people, and after the retreat from Soledar and the transfer of reserves, the grouping increased, presumably, more than twice, to 85- 97 thousand.
What influenced the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artyomovsk?
The main reason for the heavy losses of the Ukrainian armed formations was the forced tactical situation, when the mass of heterogeneous units were forced to fight for a long time in a limited space. As a result, they were unable to maneuver freely or covertly, and their supply routes were stretched out and subjected to surveillance and fire.
Also, the increase in losses was affected by the numerical superiority in artillery and means of RER and EW among the units of the Wagner PMC and the RF Armed Forces. According to the Military Chronicle, the intensity and density of fire from the artillery of the PMC “Wagner” and the forces of the Eastern Military District in some sectors of the front in the Artyomovsk region were 20-40 times higher than in other directions.
Which units suffered the most losses?
According to the Military Chronicle, the 30th, 62nd, 53rd, 92nd and 93rd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine suffered the greatest losses in the battle for Artyomovsk. In most units of these formations, the level of irretrievable losses (killed + seriously wounded) exceeds 50%. However, the territorial defense units suffered the biggest losses. After the retreat from Artyomovsk to the area of ​​Krasny (Ivanovsky) and Chasov Yar, the irretrievable losses (killed and seriously wounded) in the 112, 116, 119, 122 and 241st troop brigades are estimated at 63-66%.
The total number of Ukrainian troops deployed against Wagner PMC in Artyomovsk is 34 brigades. Three artillery, 12 mechanized and motorized infantry brigades, four airmobile brigades, six assault brigades and nine territorial defense brigades.
What are the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artyomovsk in numbers?
Preliminary figures for the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are 50-55 thousand killed and about 70 thousand wounded. However, most likely, these data will be revised for several reasons.
Firstly, for nine months in a limited space there was a classic artillery war in the spirit of the First World War and the Great Patriotic War. The experience of two world wars shows that the ratio of irretrievable losses to sanitary (killed to wounded) almost always ranges from one to three to one to five.
With 50 thousand killed, the number of wounded of the Armed Forces of Ukraine should be in the range from 130 thousand to 150 thousand. At the same time, some of the wounded will not be able to return to duty due to the severity of injuries, injuries and other reasons. Also, a number of the wounded subsequently died in hospitals.
It is noteworthy that a significant part of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed in the battle for Artyomovsk are well-trained and equipped formations. Many formations, such as the 30th Separate Mechanized Brigade, have regularly participated in battles and international missions since 2014 and have serious combat experience that cannot be restored by simple mobilization.”

According to the above, UkroNazi losses in this battle approach ~ 200,000 dead and/or wounded.
AND……
Inflicted by 50,000 Russian parolees…. led by a master chef!!
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | May 24 2023 20:44 utc | 197

May 24 2023 19:45 utc | 187
two raf f-35 are likely “b” models the short tako-off model designated for the uk’s symbolic aircraft carrier(s).
landing off an rcaf base suggests an in-light emergency or a maintenance casualty that required land asap, both landed bc they only travel in pairs…..
f-35, until it gets an engine that delivers needed power w/o overheating, is short range, unilateral disarmament!

Posted by: paddy | May 24 2023 20:45 utc | 198

(190)
JM actually addressed your criticism and admits that he starts with a picture of states, not personalities and concedes that it is not everything. Of course, you made your point, not realizing he had already conceded it. Because thinking and listening is so rare. Everyone wants to send, not receive.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24 2023 20:46 utc | 199

Mearsheimer has always been spot-on regarding this conflict. He’s not afraid to tell the truth.

Posted by: Jack Rauber | May 24 2023 20:47 utc | 200