Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
May 30, 2023
Drones Strikes In Moscow – Missile Strikes In Ukraine

Today the Russian government revealed some numbers and information about its 'Special Military Operation'.

Today's 'clobber report' by the Ministry of Defense leads with this (machine translation):

During the day, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out group strikes using long-range high-precision air-launched weapons at central decision-making points where, under the guidance of specialists from Western intelligence agencies, terrorist acts were planned on Russian territory.

All assigned objects are hit.

'Central decision-making points' are ministries and main headquarters. These had so far not been targets. More to that below.

Defense Minister Shoigu had a conference call with the military command and noted:

"Russian forces continue to inflict an effective fire impact on the enemy. Its losses this month alone totaled over 16,000 troops, 16 aircraft, 5 helicopters, 466 drones, over 400 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, and 238 field artillery pieces and mortars," Shoigu said during a conference call.

He added that 196 HIMARS rockets, 16 HARM rockets and 29 Storm Shadow long-range cruise missiles were intercepted and destroyed during the reviewed period.

The numbers are, with the exception of the downed Storm Shadows,  largely consistent with the numbers from the daily 'clobber report' in my spreadsheet. But I have only counted 17 reported Storm Shadow kills over the last month. I do not know where Shoigu's 29 is coming from.

Shoigu also spoke of targets of the recent drone attacks in Ukraine (machine translation):

“The deliveries of equipment and weapons to Ukraine are increasing. We monitor the volumes and routes of supply and, if identified, strike.

In recent days, large warehouses of Western weapons in Khmelnytsky, Ternopil and Nikolaev have been destroyed, the American Patriot anti-aircraft missile system in Kyiv has been hit,” the Minister of Defense said.

"The military support of Ukraine only delays the hostilities, but cannot affect the outcome of the special military operation," the head of the military department is sure.

On today's drone strikes in Moscow he said (machine translation):

“This morning, the Kiev regime carried out a terrorist act in the Moscow region. I will note, on civilian objects.

It involved eight aircraft-type unmanned aerial vehicles.

They are all amazed.

In Moscow, three drones were suppressed by electronic warfare, lost control and deviated from their intended targets.

Five more were shot down in the Moscow region by the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and gun system, the Minister of Defense said.

Other people had claimed up to 20 drones. But there was little damage and no reports of any casualties.

Also today was the third large drone and missile strike on Kiev within 24 hours. The were a total 17 strikes on Kiev in May 2023. I do not believe that Ukraine's claim of shooting down all missiles and drones is in any way reasonable. There will be a lot of damage in places Kiev does not want to talk about. The air defense in Kiev and elsewhere is exhausted and likely to soon run out of missiles. That will certainly increase the effectiveness of Russian strikes.

President Putin seemed to confirm that today's attack on a 'central decision-making points' hit the headquarter of military intelligence in Kiev:

Mark Sleboda @MarkSleboda1 – 13:28 UTC · May 30, 2023

Putin confirms recent Russian missile strike on Kiev regime military intelligence, under Budanov, which had claimed credit for several recent assassinations & terrorist bombings of civilians in Russia.

Budanov is a pretty nasty piece of s***. In a recent interview with Yahoo his threats were certainly not within the frame of any law:

The implication is that Budanov’s intelligence service, more commonly known by its Ukrainian acronym HUR, was behind a string of audacious and lethal attacks inside Russian territory — or what the Kremlin considers to be Russian territory. These include the August car-bomb assassination of Daria Dugina, daughter of Russia’s notorious far-right theorist Aleksandr Dugin, in central Moscow, and the suspected truck bombing in October that partially dismantled the Kerch Bridge, Russia’s only direct link from the Black Sea to occupied Crimea.

U.S. intelligence has attributed Dugina’s killing to the Ukrainian government, although not specifically to the HUR. Asked about this allegation, Budanov said, “Don’t continue with that topic. All I will comment on is that we’ve been killing Russians and we will keep killing Russians anywhere on the face of this world until the complete victory of Ukraine.

Budanov should note that the old warrior tale has been updated to: "Live by the sword, die by the dagger missile."

Comments

President Putin is showing the world the difference between Russia and America. America would have destroyed all of Kiev and killed Zelensky. The resources would have been taken. Movies would be made. All for show. All evil.
Russia has instead taken the slow and cautious approach. Willing to sacrifice Russian boys to show the world that Russia loves humanity unlike the West. This plays very well in the Global South. The Global South loves seeing drones in Russia because it symbolizes the sacrifices Russians will make. Remember, millions of Russians died in WWII and are willing to die again. President Putin is working in unison with God for humanity.

Posted by: Klaus | May 31 2023 2:05 utc | 201

https://sonar21.com/ukraines-promised-offensive-aint-d-day/

“I view these men [ie American mercenaries exterminated in Ukranazistan] as victims of the U.S. propaganda campaign that portrayed Ukraine as an innocent suddenly attacked, without cause, by the ravaging Russian hordes. That was and is a lie. I give these men the benefit of the doubt that they put their lives on the line to help an underdog without understanding the longstanding NATO effort to weaken and destroy Russia.”

I do not give any of these men the benefit of any doubt. After the lies of the wars inflicted on Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, Libya, Syria et al were exposed and widely acknowledged, if they believed that Ukranazistan was an innocent, then went there and saw the nazis with their own eyes and still remained, then they deserve what they got. There is no doubt whose benefit to give them.
As for D Day, the Germans knew perfectly well it was coming, roughly when (sometime in June), but not where. They no longer had the ability to conduct close aerial reconnaissance over the Brutish coast and a deception campaign including decoy aircraft had them convinced it was going to be at the Pas de Calais, not Normandy. Of course, they didn’t have the ability to hit Allied troop concentrations either, even if they had known exactly where those were.
But if D Day had been a total failure, so what? By the time it took place, the war had already been decided on the Eastern Front. Contrary to the Westernaganda, the decisive offensive of 1944 was Operation Bagration which the Soviets launched in mid June and which brought the Red Army from the eastern forests of Belarus to the gates of Warsaw.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 31 2023 2:20 utc | 202

Posted by: Klaus | May 31 2023 2:05 utc | 208 “Russia has instead taken the slow and cautious approach.”
How slow is this Russian approach going to take? The longer it grinds the more the West escalates. The higher the cost to Russia. If Russians take too much longer the West will have spun up their, for instance, artillery ammunition production.

Posted by: Tim2 | May 31 2023 2:20 utc | 203

I agree with Tim2 @210.
If Russia waits too long then the benefits of waiting at all will evaporate. If Ukranazistan ever launches Ye Olde Greate Springe Counteroffensive and it seems in a Ukranazi disaster with tens of thousands killed and more captured or wounded, Russia, as Prigozhin said the other day, has to take the initiative.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 31 2023 2:23 utc | 204

Lindsey Graham should be okay as long as he avoids Kiev. Maybe he can meet Zelenskyy abroad.

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 31 2023 2:27 utc | 205

@my 211
Ends in, not seems in

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 31 2023 2:28 utc | 206

How do I know two Patriot systems are now kaput?
Two “tells” in today’s Spriter twitter account: https://twitter.com/Spriter99880
1/ Italy is preparing a new package of military assistance to Ukraine.
About this writes the publication Il Messaggero with reference to the Minister of Defense of Italy.
The new package of military assistance to Ukraine (already the seventh in a row) may include SAMP-T ground-based air defense systems and other air defense systems.
2/ “I hope that South Korea will supply Ukraine with the necessary means of anti-aircraft defense”, said President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky in an interview with the Korean newspaper “Ḫosun ilbo”.
Zelensky said that he takes into account Seoul’s restrictions on arms deliveries, but believes 🥳that this does not apply to defense systems and equipment for the protection of energy infrastructure facilities.
“The air defense system is not a weapon, but a defense equipment.
In order to rebuild Ukraine, a ‘heavenly shield’ is needed, and I sincerely hope that the Republic of Korea will help us in this,” he added.
Where Patriot?

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 31 2023 2:38 utc | 207

Sushi # 1:47 utc | 203

11) Of course if Russia acts against the deployed NATO forces this will result in the invocation of NATO Article 5 and a state of war.

Is that result axiomatic/automatic or subject to a consideration and vote by the nations affiliated with NATO.
This is bluff and IMO one of the advantages of the drawn out response by Russia is that it has exposed many European political groups to be a tad wary, unamused even, by the UKUSA antics.
Give EU enough rope and they are bound to trip over it or wait for five years and the EC might re-define rope as an lgbtq binding device that must conform to an agreed colour code.
I gather Ukraine is dithering about going it alone with the ‘summer offensive’ because it is fully aware of the immense force arraigned against it and the fragility of its own force. Hence waiting for the NATO airforce to assemble on 12 June. One excuse after another.
From what I see there is trepidation right now in the NATO ranks that could well lead to a tortuous cycle of drawn out discussion, threat, compromise, screaming, change of the guard leading finally to a discovery of an old 1991 ‘gentlemanly’ agreement with Russia and then some 2021 Russian tome about ‘mutual assured security treaty’ and finally (after some crude words with King Charles and his poodle) there will be a new found peace solution.
Meanwhile the Russian province of Ukraine will have been through a revolt similar to the Paris revolt with returning soldiers and lack of citizen baked cake etc,. Order will return, cleaning up will proceed and many who fled to Europe etc will seek asylum and continue to harbour resentment and hatch plots for generations.
But before that manifests, the liberation of the troubled province will continue and that land will be cleansed of many nazis and many European states will pass through election cycles.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2023 2:42 utc | 208

Karlof1 @207
Happy to be proved wrong.
Next 7 to 10 days should clarify the situation.

Posted by: Sushi | May 31 2023 2:43 utc | 209

Larry @SONAR beat me. But here’s a post I prepped earlier.
I vehemently disagree with Larry. Those ex-mil went to Ukraine “on safari”.
Some men enjoy war and death. Some become broken and find more war the antidote to their trauma. Regardless. Travelling to Ukraine kill Russians was dumbdumbdumb.
The American military veterans who’ve fallen in Ukraine
On Memorial Day, families and friends reckon with the meaning of service under one flag — and sacrifice under another
May 29, 2023
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/05/29/memorial-day-americans-killed-ukraine-russia-war/
Extracts:
As America’s most recent wars fade into history, some veterans have chosen to take up arms in Ukraine and, in at least 16 instances, given their lives while either defending its people from Russia’s onslaught or aiding those trapped in the violence.
They’ve done so as private citizens, disregarding repeated official warnings from President Biden and others in his administration that grave danger awaits anyone who steps foot on the battlefield.
It’s unclear how many Americans have taken such risks. Possibly thousands. Ukraine claimed at the war’s outset last year that upward of 20,000 U.S. citizens expressed interest in joining the country’s foreign legion, which pays between $500 and $3,500 per month in exchange for a contractual commitment to serve for several months.
(Peters) had struggled adjusting to civilian life in Wisconsin after leaving the Army a few years earlier, his father said.
And initially, Peters’s parents tried to talk him out of going to Ukraine.
But when their son was undeterred, the family approached the decision together, with his father, a Gulf War veteran who also served in the Army, considering volunteering, too.
“After a couple of weeks, I kind of came to my senses and was like, ‘Is this something you really want to do at 53?’” John Peters said.
“So I told Andrew, ‘I’m going to sit this one out.’
(Nick Mainer, 45) death, apparently in a building collapse somewhere near the besieged city of Bakhmut earlier this month, was disclosed in a poorly lit video showing Wagner mercenary group leader Yevgeniy Prigozhin.
A close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Prigozhin and his private army have assumed a lead role in the war.
In the video, he stands near a lifeless body and taunts the United States.
In his hands is a notebook holding Maimer’s Idaho driver’s license and Veterans Affairs card.
Ukrainian forces have since received the remains, and the Maimer family expects they will be returned to the United States soon.
“It’s amazing, concerning the circumstances,” Paul Maimer said.
“There can be some closure. At this point that is all that we can ask for.”
Cooper Andrews,26. …(his mother) has sought help from the Ukrainian community in Ohio after losing faith that the State Department will get the job (return his remains) done she said.
Communication with the U.S. government, she said, has been frustrating, inconsistent and at times exasperating.
She has relied, in part, on updates from European families with connections to her son’s unit.
…… a plane carrying the remains of Marine Corps veteran Grady Kurpasi (50) arrived on U.S. soil, bringing a measure of closure after 13 months of work to bring him home.
Kurpasi served 20 years in the Marines, including in Iraq.
His retirement from the military, in November 2021, was short-lived, however. After Russia invaded Ukraine the following February, he joined a unit of international volunteers that fought near the capital, Kyiv, before moving south in April 2022.
…Kurpasi and a British volunteer left to investigate the source of incoming fire.… last seen alive.
Kurpasi’s family and Marine Corps comrades turned to volunteers in Ukraine and beyond to help determine his fate, and they pressed the Biden administration to get directly involved.
The State Department was “absolutely awful,” said George Heath, another friend of Kurpasi’s who assisted with the recovery effort.
“I expected nothing less from them after the botched Afghan withdrawal.
It was probably beneficial in a way their incompetence wasn’t involved with getting Grady home,” he said.
The family instead relied on outside groups and the R.T. Weatherman Foundation to coordinate search efforts with the Ukrainian government and volunteers on the ground.
That effort led to a collection of trees in the fields near Oleksandrivka, west of Kherson, said Andrew Duncan, the group’s co-founder. Kurpasi’s skeletal remains were identified last month, along with his boots, backpack and other gear, some of which will be used in exhibits for a Ukrainian museum honoring foreign fighters, he said.
A band of grain plucked from the site was delivered to Kurpasi’s daughter.
[theres more at link above]^
[so much WaPo pathos/bathos for military men for whom too much killing is never enough]
archive link:
https://archive.fo/Sy8lh

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 31 2023 2:43 utc | 210

President Putin is showing the world the difference between Russia and America. America would have destroyed all of Kiev and killed Zelensky. The resources would have been taken. Movies would be made. All for show. All evil.
Posted by: Klaus | May 31 2023 2:05 utc | 208
But this “slow” approach is living the cities/towns look as bad as Dresden by the time the Ukrainian forces are removed, and meanwhile citizens of Donbass are still being killed or maimed every day, and now it has extended into Russia where Russian civilians are being killed and injured too.

Posted by: MiniMO | May 31 2023 2:48 utc | 211

uncle tungsten | May 31 2023 2:42 utc | 215
what I see there is trepidation right now in the NATO
Let’s hope that telegram tales of NATO being kalibrated in their bunker-lairs has some substance.
“Kill the chicken, scare the monkey”.
EC might re-define rope as an lgbtq binding device that must conform to an agreed colour code.🍻

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 31 2023 2:53 utc | 212

Klaus # 2:05 utc | 208
Re the drones in the sky as an exhibit of Russian military supremacy and the saving of troops lives.

The Global South loves seeing drones in Russia because it symbolizes the sacrifices Russians will make.

More than that it shows that Russian military technology has outperformed almost all western technology and rendered it as junk weaponry. Short lived and reliably faulty, reliably expensive and of dubious value.
You could view the current liberation of an unruly Russian province that has been taken over by terrorists as an expo.
Russia is affirming a common humanity among members in BRICS. Provides an incentive to seek out Russian drone based security systems, air defence systems and maybe even certain Russian missile types. Then there is the demonstrated capacity of Wagner style defence contractors. So where is the prize here? South America, Africa, Arab countries.
It will take time but the western troublemakers seem to have made a blundering stand at other people’s expense. Sounds familiar to the global south.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2023 3:04 utc | 213

So, then war it is. Unless it’s another anonymous Ukrainian yacht doing it.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 31 2023 3:10 utc | 214

https://sonar21.com/the-importance-of-uniform-as-ukraine-contemplates-an-offensive/

“This is not a desperate gamble. This is forced suicide.”

For whom? Certainly not for the likes of Lloyd Austin and the Raytheon board of directors. They’ll make more money the more equipment is sent to Ukranazistan to “achieve victory”.
Not for Elensky and his cabal, who get the opportunity to steal more the longer this goes on.
Who else on the nazi side matters? Nobody. The working class conscripts slaughtered in suicide offensives are of no concern to NATO or Elensky. The nazi units are only of importance in so far as they can be motivated by racial and ideological hatred to attack Russia instead of couping Elensky. Neither they nor the conscripts are going to benefit even from a Ukranazi “victory”, let alone the disaster that’s coming.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 31 2023 3:29 utc | 215

I took a peek at telegram to see what is chatter re the Kiev HQ problem.
Rybar:

⚡️ (https://t.me/mod_russia_en/7636)🇷🇺🇺🇦🎯 On the recent Strikes in #Kiev⚡️
📌 According to my Data, the headquarters was covered in #Kiev, which included the Western supervisors of the operation in #Ukraine.
The second time we hit the bull’s-eye. The first time such a headquarters was destroyed by “Daggers” in the #Lvov region. At that time about two hundred foreign soldiers died.

Sonar21:

🛰🇷🇺 🚀💥🇺🇦Recent satellite photos from May 25 and 30, 2023 of the building of the GUR of Ukraine
Satellite images of the area near the GUR MO(Military Intelligence of Ukraine MoD (https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/66296)) building.
Either there was arrival at the GUR building something really flew in very seriously and filled up the bunker there, or they suddenly decided to make repairs and dug up a huge amount of land directly into the courtyard and parking lot.

https://t.me/sonar_21/3648
So IMO Russia was waiting for the flys to gather around the dead meat again as they prepare for the June 12 mardigras in the sky. Once the team assembled and did their initial meet and greet in person the Kinzal Negotiator arrived.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2023 3:30 utc | 216

But this “slow” approach is living the cities/towns look as bad as Dresden by the time the Ukrainian forces are removed, and meanwhile citizens of Donbass are still being killed or maimed every day, and now it has extended into Russia where Russian civilians are being killed and injured too.
Posted by: MiniMO | May 31 2023 2:48 utc | 218
This is why there is a reasonable argument for using neutron bombs. Presuming that civilians have been evacuated from a city, invading troops could be neutralized without destroying the city. Of course governments that are holding civilians hostage can deter troops from liberating a city.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | May 31 2023 3:32 utc | 217

Revisited Crooke’s latest SCF essay to find this excellent prose:

Russia is ‘winning’ on the financial war front, and on the global diplomatic front. It has the overwhelming advantage in force numbers; it has the advantage in weaponry; it has the advantage in the skies and in the Electro-magnetic sphere. Whereas Ukraine is in disarray, its forces decimated and the Kiev entity is crumbling fast.
Don’t they ‘get it’? No. The endless bitter antagonism to Putin and to Russia has allowed a self-imagined reality to detach; to drift further and further from any connection to reality; and then to transit into delusion — always drawing on like-minded peer cheerleaders for validation and extended radicalisation.
This is a serious psychosis. Because instead of addressing the conflict rationally, the West consistently comes up with ‘non-starters’ such as a ‘frozen conflict’. Do they seriously think that Russia will ‘sit back’ whilst the West ‘stands up’ an ‘armed to the teeth’ NATO proxy in the West of Ukraine? A proxy that will stand as a festering sore in the Russian side, and bleed Russian resources, over the long term? Do they imagine the lesson of Afghanistan is lost on the Russian High Command? I can tell you,it is not. I was a part actor in that tragedy.

And that “psychosis” is seen for what it is by Russia, China and RoW. There’s been no capacity for those of the West to honestly look into a mirror and reflect for many years, the time being different for each Euro-American actor. Another trick the World has learned: Your values are told to one and all via your behavior with the tried and true adage Actions Speak Louder Than Words more relevant than ever.
It’s clear to me this situation will end on Russia’s terms, although when is unknown. In the interim, it’s possible a new industrial core could form in Central Europe and the Balkans since most nations there didn’t allow their ecomonies’s to be murdered by lack of energy. The Beneluxden will probably suffer most, which IMO is apt. Even Spain looks promising.
Russia, China and RoW will be magnanimous toward Europeans and North Americans to a degree since they all understand they live under a form of liberal totalitarian oligarchy not easily escaped. Serious development can’t be delayed for the RoW and I expect that to carry on while the West stares into the mirror transfixed on the odd reflection it sees.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 31 2023 4:01 utc | 218

Will Germans get a bonus can of Russian gas to cook it?

A number of German politicians propose to limit the consumption of meat by Germans to 10 grams per day

You could make a sustainable BBQ device like an isolBBQ that will fit in your pocket or clip on your iphone and roast it on the sundeck. Save energy, save in methanes, save in waste. Those Germans are so far ahead 😉

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2023 4:02 utc | 219

Re: de-dollarization
3 month Treasuries still above 5.4%

Posted by: Exile | May 31 2023 4:55 utc | 220

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 31 2023 2:23 utc | 211
There’s so many different sort of problems with Nato weapons inside Ukraine it’s hard to believe on this le-grande-offensive. Just yesterday posted a video where a British AFV had the front axle ripped off in the mud. 70 % of Stryker vehicles are inoperable and have malfunctions. M-777 barrels don’t last long (they’re blown up anyway), AN-TPQ type radars are blown up every day. Problems with recruiting first wave fodder for Le Grande Offensive. Some injured Nato officers are secretly being flown into Poland after strikes.
I don’t think those are psyops or fakes, this time, it’s just Nato giving them sh#t, probably because Nato only has sh#t to give. The UK and Shadow storms have already been exposed and pretty much neutered through stockpile and carrier annihilation.
Is it to say “Le Grande Offensive” won’t take place? Absolutely not. It will just look more like a zerg rush. We’ll see, anyway.

Posted by: unimperator | May 31 2023 4:57 utc | 221

Dugina was not murdered in central Moscow; she was murdered in a village some 30 miles southwest of Moscow city centre, where she and her father had been attending a gathering of friends and political supporters.

Posted by: Moscow Exile | May 31 2023 5:00 utc | 222

Victoria Nuland tells Kiev Security Forum that the US has been “working on” Ukraine’s counter-offensive plan “with you for some 4-5 months. So obviously whe it fails it will be someone elses fault

Posted by: hankster | May 31 2023 5:27 utc | 223

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | May 30 2023 23:29 utc | 177
What on earth are you on about? I’ve made no Hitler analogies!
And for your info, I hate nazis too.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | May 31 2023 5:29 utc | 224

220 well thats a month saving your credits up for a pub steak with salad or chips then. mad cow disease has infected the greenies

Posted by: hankster | May 31 2023 5:30 utc | 225

Why? What do President Selensky and his NATO-Backers in London and Washington hope to achieve by bombing Moscow?
Blowing up supply infrastructure, Blowing up airports, even sneak attacks into Belgorod to force Russia to deploy troupes to defend the border: one can see strategic reasons that may justify the risk of infuriating Putin and causing Russians to rally behind their leader.
Bombing Moscow doesn’t seem to have any military benefits, just the downside of escalating the war.
Selensky doesn’t seem to have learned much from his childish stunt with the Kerch-Bridge last year, when, after having fun for a few days with mocking commentary and issuing tasteless stamps, his country lost most of its energy infrastructure when Putin decided he had to send a signal.
We’ll see how Putin will respond this time around.
But one can’t but wonder what Ukraine and her puppet masters hope to get out of this.

Posted by: Marvin | May 31 2023 5:33 utc | 226

Things must be going really badly with the counteroffensive if Selensky wastes his precious drones to score cheap headlines with military value …

Posted by: Marvin | May 31 2023 5:36 utc | 227

Posted by: Tim2 | May 31 2023 2:20 utc | 207
>How slow is this Russian approach going to take? The longer it grinds the more the West escalates. The higher the cost to Russia. If Russians take too much longer the West will have spun up their, for instance, artillery ammunition production.
USA strategists are quite capable of thinking these same thoughts. If USA thinks Russia has less tolerance for endless slow war than USA, then USA will opt for endless slow war precisely to take advantage of this weakness in Russia, and endless slow guerrilla war was original USA plan. So Russia had to opt for endless slow war itself. And now USA is realizing that Russia is probably better able to tolerate endless slow war than Ukraine backed by USA, for several reasons: Ukraine will run out of soldiers sooner, Europe is showing signs of impatience, USA needs to cut losses in Ukraine to prepare for open conflict with China.
Yes, USA artillery ammo production and drone technology might improve with tim. But everyone knows that China is improving much faster in everything, and that terrifies USA. Remember that China cannot afford to let Russia become a USA vassal state, with USA military bases in Siberia just north of China. So China’s military production capability is at Russia’s disposal, same as USA/NATO’s military production capability is at Ukraine’s disposal. USA/NATO likely to fall further behind China/Russia as time passes, so going slow favors Russia in this respect.
Russia cannot “win” until Ukraine accepts defeat. Ukrainian people and Ukrainian army rank and file soldiers need to be so tired of war that they revolt against the government. This process of attitude change will take several more years. Pushing deep into Ukraine now just exposes Russia to guerrilla war, which was the original USA plan to weaken Russia. Much better to push gradually. Make a peace offer that is thoroughly distasteful to Ukraine. Then when it is rejected, swallow a bit more Ukrainian territory and a few months later make a worse offer. Eventually, Ukraine will accept that things are going from bad to worse and will throw in the towel and accept Russia’s terms.
Final peace treaty unlikely before 2025. Too bad if this slow pace is tiresome to spectators here at MOA.

Posted by: Revelo | May 31 2023 5:37 utc | 228

Posted by: Skiffer | May 30 2023 15:19 utc | 15
The Kerch Bridge? It says it right there…
I dunno why this is such a brainbuster for you guys

Posted by: Old Fart Legion | May 31 2023 5:51 utc | 229

Posted by: MiniMO | May 31 2023 2:48 utc | 218
>But this “slow” approach is living the cities/towns look as bad as Dresden by the time the Ukrainian forces are removed, and meanwhile citizens of Donbass are still being killed or maimed every day, and now it has extended into Russia where Russian civilians are being killed and injured too.
Keeping the front stable means only a few towns are being destroyed: Maripol, Bakhmut, Soledar, etc. If Russia pushes deep now, Zaporizhzhia, Dnipro, Odesa, etc will have to be destroyed. As for Russian civilians, too bad. If Russia wants a quick end to war, then it should accept whatever terms USA/Ukraine offers. Otherwise, lots of Russian and Ukrainian soldiers and civilians, will just have to continue suffering. That’s how war is. And spectators at MOA will have to suffer from impatience. Too bad.

Posted by: Revelo | May 31 2023 5:51 utc | 230

Is the US dragging Europe into a war with Russia? It was clear from the outset that the coup in Ukraine would end in war:
https://geopolitiekincontext.wordpress.com/2023/05/29/sleurt-de-vs-europa-mee-in-een-oorlog-met-rusland/
Already on May 13, 2014, Australian journalist and filmmaker John Pilger warned the world about US involvement in Ukraine, about the Nazi and corruption problem in Ukraine, and for the danger to world peace. Pilger’s prophetic words from that time show a good view of the rivalry between the great powers. My piece shows an edited summary of his text.
European leaders lack backbone. The EU needs leaders of the caliber of Charles de Gaulle.

Posted by: Paul-Robert | May 31 2023 6:01 utc | 231

3 month Treasuries still above 5.4%
Posted by: Exile | May 31 2023 4:55 utc | 221

The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

Posted by: too scents | May 31 2023 6:01 utc | 232

Re: Revelo | 5:51 utc | 231
Western fantasy of Joe, old man Kissinger and warmongers like McCain, Graham and Mr & Mrs Applebaum … Ukraine and NATO are an existential threat to the Russians. Conflict will not end well as long as escalation irreplaceable reality on the ground. Fighter aircraft and long range cruise missiles as last resort? Only Wall Street and MIC corporations will profit.
Ukraine will end up like Grozny environs and where US retreated after defeat in AfPak region, Iraq, Libya and Syria. As Europe and the U.S. build higher walls, the South and East will unite and grow their economies.

Posted by: Oui | May 31 2023 6:09 utc | 233

[231]
as bad as Dresden
Why the obsession with Dresden to the exclusion of Hamburg, Cologne, Halle, Kassel, Frankfurt, Rotterdam, Warsaw, Stalingrad ?

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 31 2023 6:24 utc | 234

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2023 4:02 utc | 220
Every German crackpot in Germany is worth an airing on Telegram………..silly women in Germany are treated with awe in the rest of the world especially by the Great Unwashed on Telegram

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 31 2023 6:26 utc | 235

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 31 2023 2:20 utc | 202
There were already British, Canadian, Polish, Brazilian, Indian, US Forces in Italy by 1943……..
Bomber Command could have demolished the German positions just as it destroyed Caen

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 31 2023 6:29 utc | 236

Posted by: Membrum Virile | May 31 2023 5:29 utc | 225
oh, so you hate the Ukranian nazis the US backs in its proxy war with Russia.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 31 2023 6:33 utc | 237

https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1663784322480873472

The UK’s Foreign Secretary Cleverly has stated that Ukraine “has the legitimate right to … project force beyond its borders to undermine Russia’s ability to project force into Ukraine itself.” According to him, legitimate military targets beyond Ukraine’s border are part of its self-defence.
The goofy officials of the UK, our eternal enemy, should remember that within the framework of the universally accepted international law which regulates modern warfare, including the Hague and Geneva Conventions with their additional protocols, their state can also be qualified as being at war.
Today, the UK acts as Ukraine’s ally providing it with military aid in the form of equipment and specialists, i.e., de facto is leading an undeclared war against Russia. That being the case, any of its public officials (either military, or civil, who facilitate the war) can be considered as a legitimate military target.

Do it.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 31 2023 6:38 utc | 238

But if D Day had been a total failure, so what? By the time it took place, the war had already been decided on the Eastern Front. Contrary to the Westernaganda, the decisive offensive of 1944 was Operation Bagration which the Soviets launched in mid June and which brought the Red Army from the eastern forests of Belarus to the gates of Warsaw.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 31 2023 2:20 utc | 202

“So what” is that then Germany, France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Denmark would have been Soviet.
As well as Italy, but this is why:

There were already British, Canadian, Polish, Brazilian, Indian, US Forces in Italy by 1943……..

The Mediterranean is usually forgotten when discussing the war, but there is a reason why that front was opened first — the Great Game never ended and securing the Mediterranean so that it does not fall in Russian hands was top priority

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 31 2023 6:45 utc | 239

https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1663784322480873472

The UK’s Foreign Secretary Cleverly has stated that Ukraine “has the legitimate right to “project force beyond its borders to undermine Russia’s ability to project force into Ukraine itself.” According to him, legitimate military targets beyond Ukraine’s border are part of its self-defence.
The goofy officials of the UK, our eternal enemy, should remember that within the framework of the universally accepted international law which regulates modern warfare, including the Hague and Geneva Conventions with their additional protocols, their state can also be qualified as being at war.
Today, the UK acts as Ukraine’s ally providing it with military aid in the form of equipment and specialists, i.e., de facto is leading an undeclared war against Russia. That being the case, any of its public officials (either military, or civil, who facilitate the war) can be considered as a legitimate military target.

Posted by: shadowbanned | May 31 2023 6:48 utc | 240

📋 (http://t.me/two_majors)🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Report for the Morning of 31 May 2023; pub. 07:04📍
🔴 (https://t.me/dva_majors/16325) The RF Armed Forces continue strikes with high-precision aerial bombs against the enemy along the line of contact. The consequences of yesterday’s strike on #Kiev with missiles and Geraniums are being carefully concealed by the enemy.
▪️ In the #Zaporozhye direction (#Gulyaypole, #Orekhov), in places where the enemy is concentrated, there are gaps of corrected aerial bombs.
🔵 In the #Zaporozhyev direction, on the eve of the offensive the enemy is shelling our headquarters, temporary deployment points of units, field ammunition depots. Newly delivered Storm Shadow missiles are being used. Intercepts indicate the redeployment of enemy units to the frontline (two new brigades in one of the front sections), and the movement of Leopard tanks has been detected. It will take several more days for the AFU to prepare the strike.
🎯 The Accuracy of hits by the AFU is ensured by satellite and aerial reconnaissance, as well as by local agents. At the same time the Nazis are hitting the civilian population of the region, our air defence is constantly working.
▪️ In the #Kherson region a significant number of small vessels of the enemy are recorded arriving. Small landing groups of both sides continue to operate in the #Dnieper River floodplain, artillery duels are being conducted. The enemy reconstructs small bridges on the way to the front, south of Davydov Brod settlement, enemy infantry is sheltering in the wooded areas.
▪️ The #Belgorod region is under constant shelling by the AFU. The enemy struck at a temporary accommodation facility in #Shebekino. There are dead and wounded civilians of the region. At night, #Shebekino was again subjected to a massive artillery attack.
▪️ In the #Krasnodar region, a major fire broke out overnight at the Afipsky Oil Refinery. The governor officially confirmed that it was caused by a UAV strike.
▪️ In the LPR, the AFU shelled a poultry farm in the village of. Karpaty (Pereval district, LPR). Four construction workers have been killed and 16 people injured.
▪️ On the civilian population of the DPR, the enemy fired 264 rounds of ammunition. #Gorlovka, #Verkhnetoretskoye, #Luganskoye, #Yasinovataya, #Donetsk and #Staromikhaylovka came under fire. Four civilians were wounded, including a child born in 2011.
t.me/two_majors /@sitreports/#smo/

Posted by: unimperator | May 31 2023 7:06 utc | 241

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 31 2023 6:33 utc | 238
“oh, so you hate the Ukranian nazis the US backs in its proxy war with Russia.”
Yes. I make no qualifications, which nazis to hate and which not to hate. I also hate the russian nazis fighting in the wagner group. And just to clarify, not all of Wagner are nazis. But there is enough evidence to convince me that some are. And the name is no coincidence.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | May 31 2023 7:09 utc | 242

Posted by: Membrum Virile | May 31 2023 7:09 utc | 242
so just to clarify, your hatred of Nazis extends to the US government for backing them, right?

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 31 2023 7:26 utc | 243

Posted by: karlof1 | May 31 2023 2:05 utc | 200
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2023 3:04 utc | 213
You raise critical points with regard to the complaints re RF too slow, or failing to “shock and awe.”
RF response demonstrates to “The World” that there is an alternative to military subjugation at the hands of the Former Colonial Powers (FCP AKA The Global North).
FCP conduct demonstrates they cannot be trusted, are agreement incapable, wilfully act in violation of both the UN and NATO Charters and fail to perceive their own hypocrisy and perfidy.
Can you build a future world in collaboration with the FCP? The answer is no.
Russia is demonstrating the fact the FCP fail to respect the legitimate interests of any entity not subservient to them.
Russia is demonstrating the FCP incompetent to understand their own interdependence and reliance on respectful relationship with the World.
The terminology used here builds on that of Fiona Hill:
Why in fact are they labeled (as I am reflecting here in this speech) the “Global South,” having previously been called the Third World or the Developing World? Why are they even the “Rest” of the world? They are the world, representing 6.5 billion people. Our terminology reeks of colonialism.
SOURCE:
https://lmc.icds.ee/lennart-meri-lecture-by-fiona-hill/
Hill delivers a “milkshake analysis.” The good bits are whirled up with confused dross and you need to filter out the vestigial FCP mindset to get to the nutritious bits.
Russia demonstrates to The World that they have legitimate interests best served in fora other than those imposed by the declining FCP.
The FCP are keenly aware of exactly this fact which is why they are prepared to go to any length to destroy Russia.
“Any length” would include the insanity envisioned in my post 199 (was 203)
Cheers!

Posted by: Sushi | May 31 2023 7:30 utc | 244

Posted by: oldhippie | May 30 2023 21:28 utc | 146
“Putin: “Russia’s security can only be ensured by liquidating Ukraine.”
That was not Putin, that was the tweet’s author, Victor vicktop55.
Nonetheless, liquidating the “state” of Ukraine is the plan. Always was the plan since spring, 2021.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 31 2023 7:38 utc | 245

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 31 2023 7:26 utc | 243
“so just to clarify, your hatred of Nazis extends to the US government for backing them, right?”
Most definately! Why does hatred of nazis seem so hard to understand?

Posted by: Membrum Virile | May 31 2023 7:40 utc | 246

Posted by: Sushi | May 31 2023 1:47 utc | 199
Still posting the bullshit, I see. As is characteristic of concern trolls, repeatedly posting the same bullshit not matter how many times it’s debunked.
You are officially now a concern troll.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 31 2023 7:47 utc | 247

Let’s look at the world from the point of view of the USA.
Gaining influence in a country after a color revolution is attractive because of low cost, but is losing effectiveness. The result is no longer guaranteed.
There are countries the USA is able to invade and occupy, but unfortunately the occupation of these countries cannot pay for the cost of the invasion. An example is Ukraine: unable to resist US occupation, but also unable to prosper.
Other countries like Russia and China have considerable riches, but these countries resist and fight back. Looking at the resulting wars, the US is good at creating trending twitter events, bad at winning wars.
So, from the point of view of the USA, this leaves as easiest prey the US allies.
As an example, look at Europe.
Until recently, Russia provided Europe with raw materials, and received finished products and machinery in return.
After political arms-twisting and brute force such as blowing up the North Stream gas pipeline, Europe no longer buys cheap Russian gas. Now buys expensive American gas.
After political pressure, European companies have left Russia. Trade links between Germany and Russia have been broken.
Now the push is for Europe to abandon China as a trading partner, and buy American, even though in many cases these American products are made in China.
As a result, Europe is growing visibly poorer. The conclusion is that being a US ally no longer benefits.

Posted by: Passerby | May 31 2023 7:50 utc | 248

Why the obsession with Dresden to the exclusion of Hamburg, Cologne, Halle, Kassel, Frankfurt, Rotterdam, Warsaw, Stalingrad ?
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 31 2023 6:24 utc | 235
And Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki.

Posted by: RB | May 31 2023 7:53 utc | 249

Dima just now reporting that Chechens have arrived …
# Bellogurovka east of Siversk
# Marinka ..
Reinforcements Have Arrived | Special Unit Akhmat. Military Summary And Analysis For 2023.05.31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCDGvsrJfm0

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 31 2023 8:11 utc | 250

“I have only counted 17 reported Storm Shadow kills over the last month. I do not know where Shoigu’s 29 is coming from.”
Maybe a few of them were not destroyed in flight, but while they were still stored in warehouses in or near the Khmelnytsky airport that was hit a few days ago.

Posted by: Leonardo | May 31 2023 8:18 utc | 251

Dima is saying RU has advanced almost to the edge of the forest NW of Belogorovka, enabling them to control the high ground west of Belogorovka (and force potential artillery positions to withdraw). This would then enable to take the town.

Posted by: unimperator | May 31 2023 8:18 utc | 252

Our source reports that the Office of the President conducted a closed sociology on the issue of the attitude of Ukrainians to the Bakhmut operation (Bakhmut fortification / Bakhmut meat grinder).
More than 70% answered negatively that it was a mistake to keep Bakhmut with such sacrifices and costs.
After that, the OP completely lowered the “Bakhmut fortification” case, nowhere is this ingenious operation of Zelensky mentioned, who insisted on keeping the fortification even when everything was shot through around.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15501

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 8:22 utc | 253

Our source in the OP said that the US senator misunderstood Zelensky’s words about the timing of the Azov battle. Statements about the coming days are not true, the counteroffensive on the Crimea will begin in the second half of June, until that time there will be local operations on the eastern front.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18056

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 8:25 utc | 254

“Without waiting for the NATO-Ukrainian offensive, the offensive of the Akhmat units began.
Chechen units were ordered to start active hostilities and liberate a number of settlements in the DPR, Kadyrov said.
The forces of the special forces “Akhmat” and the regiment “North-Akhmat” of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, commanded by Major General Apty Alaudinov, have been deployed to the Maryinsky direction. Now the fighters are preparing to storm settlements with the support of the Ministry of Defense, the head of Chechnya specified.
Similar orders to start the offensive were received by other Akhmat units, which are located on alternative sections of the line of contact between the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.
Kadyrov also stated, “An attack by drones on Moscow has no tactical, strategic or even psychological meaning. Those trained in military affairs understand this. The war is going on in a completely different place.
But anyone who is familiar with the methods of terrorists trained according to American patterns understands that this is an attempt to draw attention to themselves and win information points after major defeats “on the ground” …
In the end, I’ll run ahead a bit, but I won’t reveal the details. We will soon show in the SMO zone what revenge is in the full sense of the word ”

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/48467

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 8:27 utc | 255

Medvedev on the words of the UK foreign minister about Ukraine’s right to attack Russian territory:
The hapless officials of the UK, our eternal enemy, should remember that under universally recognized international law their state can also be qualified as being at war.
Today, the UK acts as an ally of Ukraine, providing it with military aid in the form of equipment and specialists, i.e. it is de facto waging an undeclared war against Russia. In such a case, any of its officials (both military and civilian, contributing to the war) could be regarded as a legitimate military target.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/48469

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 8:28 utc | 256

OT but interesting

⚠️Multi-millionaire climate doomsday preacher, John Kerry, admits that destruction of the farming industry is essential to achieve ‘Net Zero’:
“Agriculture contributes about 33% of all the emissions of the world. And we can’t get to net zero—we don’t get this job done—unless agriculture is front and centre as part of the solution.”
“You just can’t continue to both warm the planet, while also expecting to feed it. It doesn’t work. So we have to reduce emissions from the food system.”

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/66426

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 8:30 utc | 257

🇺🇦🇬🇧 British defence company BAE Systems plans to open an office in Ukraine
In the future, it is also expected to set up production facilities in the country to repair and service the products manufactured by the British.
🔺 This is not the first visit of foreign defence companies to Ukraine.
Earlier, an agreement on setting up maintenance and repair centres for equipment was signed with the German concern Rheinmatall.
There are more and more legitimate targets.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/48472

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 8:32 utc | 258

[258]
Rheinmetall is owned by Black Rock and Vanguard. Like BAe it will only build in Ukraine with government indemnities and subsidy.
It is a stunt to get more money from EU Governments and switch spending to military instead of pensions

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 31 2023 8:53 utc | 259

Oh heck. …
Posted by: oldhippie | May 30 2023 21:33 utc | 147

A rare error but a wonderful moment of escape all the same =)

Posted by: anon2020 | May 31 2023 8:56 utc | 260

[257]
Green Politics is Class War by Rich against Rest
It is simply like Highland Clearances in 18th Century Scotland or Enclosures of Common Land
If people cannot recognise Class War from above when they are treated like livestock to be culled and vaccinated and made to eat their own they deserve the abattoir

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 31 2023 8:57 utc | 261

Re: Passerby | 7:50 utc | 248
As a result, Europe is growing visibly poorer.
After Brexit, power shift in Brussels from West to East (Russophobe landscape) in words of US neocons from Old to New. EU gets what it deserves … Spanish fascist Josip Borrell from Franco era “garden and jungle” gaffe and appointment VDL instead of spitzenkandidat Manfred Weber (rightwing Bavarian CSU). Joe “blitzkrieg” Biden is home free in Europe. MEPs in Strasbourg have seen the same shift in power and policy.

Posted by: Oui | May 31 2023 8:58 utc | 262

🇷🇺🇺🇦 As a result of a missile attack on the port infrastructure of Odessa, the medium landing ship “Yury Olefirenko” of the Ukrainian Navy was hit. Due to the damage received, the ship, according to preliminary data, was flooded.
The hunt for him has been going on for a long time. At the beginning of the conflict, the Ukrainian ship operated in the Dnieper-Bug estuary and from its side the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired at the Kherson region – launchers of the Grad MLRS were placed on it.
And later he departed first to the port of Yuzhny , and then to Odessa. The Ukrainian authorities used the grain deal to protect him, but after repeated violations of the agreement, the Russian command struck.

https://t.me/intelslava/48245

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 9:21 utc | 263

Richard Steven Hack | May 31 2023 7:47 utc | 248

You are officially now a concern troll.

What is a troll, or concern troll? I bet you couldn’t define it if you tried, in any way that applies to Sushi. So you are throwing about with statements whose meaning you don’t even understand.

Posted by: grunzt | May 31 2023 9:40 utc | 264

I recently wrote why Ukraine will disappear.
Now is the time to say how Ukraine will disappear, as well as what is the risk of renewed conflict in Europe and in the world. This will depend on which path the process of disintegration of this dying state will follow as a result of a lost military conflict. There are two of them. Or the path of relatively slow erosion of Ukrainian statehood with the gradual loss of the remaining elements of state sovereignty. Or the path of its instant collapse with the simultaneous annihilation of all signs of statehood. In any case, after such a collapse, three scenarios are likely.
First.
The western regions of Ukraine are coming under the control of a number of EU states with the subsequent “Anschluss” of these lands by the recipient states. At the same time, a certain “no man’s” Ukrainian territory will remain, which is squeezed between Russia and the lands that have come under the sovereignty of a number of European countries. The remaining ownerless territory announces its succession from the former Ukraine, its international legal personality and its intention to return the lost lands by all means. Naturally, meaning only those lands that became part of Russia. At the same time, this “new” Ukraine immediately declares its desire to join the European Union and NATO, which is happening in the medium term. The armed conflict resumes after a short time, turning into a permanent one, but with the threat of its rapid spillover into a full-fledged third world war.
Second.
Ukraine disappears after the completion of the NWO in the process of its division between Russia and a number of EU states. The government of Ukraine is being formed in exile in one of the European countries. The conflict ends with reasonable guarantees of its non-resumption in the near future, but with the preservation of the terrorist activity of the Ukrainian Nazis, who will be dispersed on the territory of the EU states that received Western Ukrainian lands. The risk of the resumption of a full-fledged conflict or its escalation into a world war in this case can be considered moderate.
Third.
The same thing happens as in the first case, but with the opposite sign. Western lands of Ukraine join a number of EU countries. The people of the central and some other ownerless regions of Ukraine within the framework of Art. 1 of the UN Charter immediately declares its self-determination by joining the Russian Federation. His request is granted, and the conflict ends with sufficient guarantees of its non-recurrence in the long term.
There are simply no other options. And this is already clear to everyone, even if it is unpleasant for someone in the West to admit it.
We may be temporarily satisfied with the second option, but we need a third one.
——————- Dmitry Medvedev

Posted by: ostro | May 31 2023 9:41 utc | 265

@ tim2 203
Putin is working with God for humanity.
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, and what does kill you when you are working for God and humanity grants you paradise.
We all agree that fair trade is the way to live life, but what is fair in a system by which 80% of RoW is colonised and poisoned and murdered for the sake of USUKIS?
This insane USUKIS plan to set their evil, colonising eyes on Russia epitomises Western greed and violence, and now they are turning their jealous eyes on China.
When you are fighting evil you have to trust in God to guide you, and be patient with temporary setbacks, keeping your eyes on the longer goal of dismantling the evil of USUKIS exceptionalism.
There is no point in rushing the plans of the Creator who says in his Qur’an that he uses some nations to suppress tyranny of others. The nations He uses are not necessarily Muslim nations. But in the case of the Kurdish people who sacked Jerusalem in 600 B.C., they eventually accepted Islam at the hands of prophet Jonah.
Let me remind you of Jesus pbuh words in the Gospels when the Children of Israel didn’t listen to him. ‘ if they people of Samaria, worshippers of Baal had been shown the miracles that you have been shown, they would be sitting in sackcloth and ashes and weeping and repenting to Allah.
USUKIS has no intention ofvrepenting from its evil.path, however much the scriptures of the Torah, the Gospels and the Qur’an have been understood by them.
There’s always an easy way and a hard way.
Russian meat grinder of Nato forces is the hard way USUKIS chose to keep their fingers in their ears.

Posted by: Giyane | May 31 2023 9:43 utc | 266

” There are more and more legitimate targets”
Whishful thinking. Ukr and nato can do anything they want. Today in LPR 5 civilians were killed, 19 wounded from himars with tungsten balls.
If the artillery duelist generals ever reach Donbass boders, the rest of Ukr will be nato anyway. Thanks to the smo, designed for failure. I see Kadyrov started to have suggestions now. Marty form America will attack him next, just wait a few days.

Posted by: rk | May 31 2023 9:43 utc | 267

Posted by: karlof1 | May 30 2023 22:22 utc | 160
I’d guess your readership here is second only our esteemed host, your posts are most often too learned and definitive for there to be anything to add except thanks.
I can maybe add a tiny bit for once =)
On Belgorod, I think you are correct about the shelling risk. I won’t make excuses for how the recent border raid was handled but the shelling / missile / drone risk is a different matter.
There is a TG video, which I cannot now find, which showed UA forces firing artillery rockets (at the civilian areas of Zaporizhia?) from launch tubes fitted to an improvised mount on the back pickup trucks from which the truck bed had been removed.
If memory serves there were two or three such trucks parked one after the other along a public road, each appeared to fire three rockets in quick succession, on a low trajectory (to avoid counter-battery radar?). The video then ends but I would expect them to be gone in a minute at most. Likely they were 120mm Grad rockets, range 20…40km, approximately $1000 apiece.
Not much can be done about cheap, mobile, dispersed launchers like that. It’d take keen, pervasive surveillance and near instant counter-battery fire to catch the launch crews before they retreat. Even then the launch frame could be disposable, left in place and triggered remotely or on a timer. Nothing to go after even if the launch site can be identified.
Same deal with missiles and drones,, there’s always a way to get more range and to make counter-battery pointless (at least with gun artillery there’s always an expensive piece of hardware at the point of origin and a juicy seismo-acoustic signature to point the way).
If it’s not one thing it’ll be another. Do enough to prevent the current shelling and its sponsors will switch to different tactics: longer range rockets. different missiles or drones. I guess I’d still prefer to see systems and tactics deployed that catch these attackers out and force them to adapt, just as I would prefer to learn that all of Belgorod’s raiders were captured or killed.
That said, the problem, as you often highlight, is ultimately not one of military nature.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 31 2023 9:58 utc | 268

Posted by: ostro | May 31 2023 9:41 utc | 267
It seems to me unlikely that Ukraine would ever “completely” disappear. US government will keep it around as a paper-entity, which means that there could even in the case that all Ukraine gets annexed, there will still be the government-in-exile operating from Poland, or perhaps Brussels.
In reality however, the Zelensky regime’s control and influence will be miniscule. Even now, it’s probably below 20 million people with 200-250k active soldiers. But the point is Nato can use the paper-entity regime as plausible deniability to keep attacking Russia – obviously the line is being stretched thin that we will see a blow in UK or Poland who are the main backers of the current Ze regime.
Since “Ze regime” is open-ended, it probably means that US has the ability to throw Poland (and perhaps Finland) into the fray. I have no idea what this idea about getting “Ze regime” into EU/Nato means. If it means that it will be absorbed into Nato during SMO time and leads to Nato being at war with Russia, then the RU doctrine allows to launch against Nato targets pretty soon.
There is no other explanation for this plan. US has decided to go to the end in their open ended Ukraine war. RU goal is to annihilate everything thrown at them. In fact, they seem more like in a strategic defensive posture and if the plan with Nato absorbtion goes ahead, then the nuclear doctrine will start ringing bells soon.

Posted by: unimperator | May 31 2023 10:00 utc | 269

@ pretzelattack | May 31 2023 1:49 utc | 204
Have you looked into where Defender 23 is to occur and the geographic proximity of those nations to the current FEBA in Ukraine? I commented on that issue a few days ago; everything is far away.
It is all integrated and developed over the multiple theatres, but to say that everything is far away is not really correct.
From the official statement on Saber, a Defender’s 23 component:

NATO Allies participate in Saber Guardian 23 Opening Ceremony, Slobozia, Romania, May 29, 2023.Saber Guardian 23, a component of Defender Europe 23, is an exercise co-led by Romanian Land Forces and the U.S. Army at various locations in Romania to improve the integration of multinational combat forces by engaging in different events such as vehicle road marches, medical training exercises, and river crossings.DEFENDER 23 is a U.S. Army Europe and Africa led exercise focused on the strategic deployment of continental United States-based forces, employment of Army Prepositioned Stocks, and interoperability with Allies and partners. Taking place from 22 April to 23 June, DEFENDER 23 demonstrates USAREUR-AF’s ability to aggregate U.S.-based combat power quickly in Eastern Europe, increase lethality of the NATO Alliance through long-distance fires, build unit readiness in a complex joint, multi-national environment, and leverage host nation capabilities to increase USAREUR-AF’s operational reach. DEFENDER 23 includes more than 7,800 U.S. and 15,000 multi national service members from more than 20 nations who will participate including, but not limited to: Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Spain, United Kingdom and the United States.

Harmless, vassals and masters gathering and jamboree.
So, amongst the other tasks aimed at deterring “the enemy”, it helping US forces to make themselves cosy in hard Eastern European theatre.
When concerning Romania, it is aimed to seal Focșani gate or a gap, just in case of the possible conflict spill.
And of course draw force closer to Moldavia.
None of those NATO forces are enough, let alone able, to prevent much, but they can put some pressure there and destabilise Moldavia and block RF in Transnistria from the south. That might force RF to rethink its peacekeeping deployment there.

Posted by: whirlX | May 31 2023 10:03 utc | 270

Sushi # 1:47 utc | 203
11) Of course if Russia acts against the deployed NATO forces this will result in the invocation of NATO Article 5 and a state of war.
Is that result axiomatic/automatic or subject to a consideration and vote by the nations affiliated with NATO.
This is bluff and IMO one of the advantages of the drawn out response by Russia is that it has exposed many European political groups to be a tad wary, unamused even, by the UKUSA antics.
Give EU enough rope and they are bound to trip over it or wait for five years and the EC might re-define rope as an lgbtq binding device that must conform to an agreed colour code.
I gather Ukraine is dithering about going it alone with the ‘summer offensive’ because it is fully aware of the immense force arraigned against it and the fragility of its own force. Hence waiting for the NATO airforce to assemble on 12 June. One excuse after another.
From what I see there is trepidation right now in the NATO ranks that could well lead to a tortuous cycle of drawn out discussion, threat, compromise, screaming, change of the guard leading finally to a discovery of an old 1991 ‘gentlemanly’ agreement with Russia and then some 2021 Russian tome about ‘mutual assured security treaty’ and finally (after some crude words with King Charles and his poodle) there will be a new found peace solution.
Meanwhile the Russian province of Ukraine will have been through a revolt similar to the Paris revolt with returning soldiers and lack of citizen baked cake etc,. Order will return, cleaning up will proceed and many who fled to Europe etc will seek asylum and continue to harbour resentment and hatch plots for generations.
But before that manifests, the liberation of the troubled province will continue and that land will be cleansed of many nazis and many European states will pass through election cycles.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2023 2:42 utc | 208
If it comes to engaging NATO and the West, I say Russia goes all in. Russia can defeat the West conventionally in their own theater, of this I have little doubt. The West, NATO and America in particular are like a belligerent aging fat man in a bar, once powerful, now just a big-mouthed bully with Type 2 diabetes and a bad heart. Russia should not fear to fight the West, nor World War 3. China will likely step in, other countries, too, on Russia’s side. And if it should come to global thermonuclear war . . . BRING IT. Better the end of humanity and a true GREAT RESET than the West should triumph and plunge the whole world into iniquitous, degenerate darkness. The Fourth Reich must be broken, no matter the cost. To the end, boys. To the bitter end.

Posted by: Nonothing | May 31 2023 10:05 utc | 271

NATO is not like Warsaw Pact, the people in NATO countries are not/never ready to die for the other country people of the same NATO pact. The politicos would talk a lot, but if/when the time comes, there won’t be a NATO “fighting” force, except maybe for the paid soldiers.

Posted by: ostro | May 31 2023 10:13 utc | 272

Posted by: ostro | May 31 2023 10:13 utc | 274
“NATO is not like Warsaw Pact, the people in NATO countries are not/never ready to die for the other country people of the same NATO pact.”
No real test for NATO yet. Warsaw pact people died in SU invasions often enough. Germany, Hungary, Checkoslovakia, Poland. No wonder they left as soon as possible.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | May 31 2023 10:32 utc | 273

The Russian Embassy in London is quite an attractive place, somewhat romantic and with a beautiful interior. If they leave it, as Medvedev is strongly suggesting, I hope they can salvage the paintings, furniture and china and bring them back to Russia. The UK Embassy in Moscow is a far more beautiful building than the Brits deserve. I guess all those embassies will close in the next few years and if ( big “if”) they ever open again, it will be in some drab concrete building without any of the elegance of previous times. Once we see all ambassadors recalled, death and destruction will follow on a wide scale and heavens knows if any blog or website will still exist. Now, here comes the definition of a troll: someone who is utterly destructive because of greed combined with stupidity, someone who makes money by posting comments with a negative or even malignant intent, not willing to understand that this is helping to bring the world to an inferno, however small they may as helpers be. Ah, a bright future: bright with the flashes of explosions that tear us to shreds…

Posted by: Anthony | May 31 2023 10:33 utc | 274

Posted by: grunzt | May 31 2023 9:40 utc | 266
I’ve defined concern troll repeatedly here in the past. Try to catch up.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 31 2023 10:38 utc | 275

This is bluff and IMO one of the advantages of the drawn out response by Russia is that it has exposed many European political groups to be a tad wary, unamused even, by the UKUSA antics.
Give EU enough rope and they are bound to trip over it or wait for five years and the EC might re-define rope as an lgbtq binding device that must conform to an agreed colour code.
I gather Ukraine is dithering about going it alone with the ‘summer offensive’ because it is fully aware of the immense force arraigned against it and the fragility of its own force. Hence waiting for the NATO airforce to assemble on 12 June. One excuse after another.
From what I see there is trepidation right now in the NATO ranks that could well lead to a tortuous cycle of drawn out discussion, threat, compromise, screaming, change of the guard leading finally to a discovery of an old 1991 ‘gentlemanly’ agreement with Russia and then some 2021 Russian tome about ‘mutual assured security treaty’ and finally (after some crude words with King Charles and his poodle) there will be a new found peace solution.

The last time something like this was in the offing, Russia sortied their entire navy to sea….
Black Sea assets went to the Med…… Baltic Sea assets went to the western approaches…..
Arctic Sea assets went to the Denmark Strait…. Pacific ocean assets went to the Sea of Japan…
Fully armed….
This deployment basically cut NATO supply lines in the event of war….
ALSO…
All Russian subs went to sea for deployment along NATO coasts…. fully armed….
In the event, nothing happened…
I imagine Russia has counters to this plan….
We will have to see how it plays out…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | May 31 2023 10:39 utc | 276

Has anyone asked themselves, why RF forces don’t knock off the Ukrainian border cross points with Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Moldavia? RF is depleting the war machinery of the NATO. (I didn’t mention Hungary as it doesn’t supply any weapons to the Ukraine.) First whatever weapons, machinery, planes left of the former USSR, and now whole lot of “Western” stuff. They all get destroyed in time. The SMO is also about that.

Posted by: ostro | May 31 2023 10:47 utc | 277

People should read the papers to see how utterly out of touch even the self-styled intelligent are. Look at the comments here.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/28/the-moment-has-arrived-biden-must-give-ukraine-all-it-needs-to-win
Second top rated comment (ok, I know the Guardian mods ban commenters who don’t toe the party line).
“Yes, it’s time to be decisive. Putin has had his chance to show the might of his imperialistic occupation force in Ukraine during his winter campaign. Result: a total flop. He has made no territorial gain, no advance, no undermining of either the Ukrainian army capability let alone their morale. But he has shown that the Russian soldiers simply don’t see this as their war, they are not defending their country, they are invading a neighbour, who understands Russian, who has family links with Russia.
The Russians should retreat and save the life of their soldiers. If they dig in, they will be buried inside their trenches…. The Ukrainians mean business, they are defending their country and their families, they will fight to the bitter end, and with the help of the Democratic West, they will prevail. After that, Ukraine will become a welcome member of the EU and NATO, and that’s the end of any future Russian dreams to phagocyte Ukraine.”
Every word is pretty much a lie, including “and” and “the”. But they believe it. They also believe, for example, that China is a responsible big brother who is embarrassed by “the Russian invasion” and trying to retreat from alliance, rather than tied into the project (while keeping US trade going) because they know they are next on the list if Russia falls.
They literally do not have a clue.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 31 2023 10:55 utc | 278

YetAnotherAnon | May 31 2023 10:55 utc | 280
It is excellent that those fools in the UK believe in that kind of stuff, for that makes it much easy for the Russian Federation…more fools around the better… 🙂

Posted by: ostro | May 31 2023 11:03 utc | 279

British intelligence was transmitting intelligence to the Office of the President that the Kremlin had decided to create private information companies that operate in the West. The oligarch Potanin is reportedly on a personal assignment from Putin to organize a “black” PR campaign against the West that aims to discredit Western sanctions and Ukraine.
To do this: “Potanin’s people went to London and Washington (!!!) to hold meetings with black PR agencies and private intelligence companies” to discuss propaganda theses to be uploaded to the West. Thus, the oligarch Potanin demonstrates to Putin his extremely usefulness. And for this, Putin gave Potanin the opportunity to buy Yandex.
This is written by Intelligence Online publications close to the French intelligence DGSE.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/18058

The Kremlin realized that private military, intelligence, and now information companies are the new effective tools of geopolitics. The West has been using them for a long time to carry out their tasks in the international arena, now this track is relevant in Russia, and it is funded by Potanin, who is trying to demonstrate his importance to the Kremlin.
The creation of private information companies will become a new trend, behind which will be influential oligarchs and state corporations. In Ukraine, the issue has not yet been resolved even with PMCs, and the dismissal of Lysenko from the CPD demonstrated the ineffectiveness of the confrontation with Russian private information companies.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15502

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 11:03 utc | 280

💰Repairing the F-35 could cost $38bn
A major overhaul of fighter jet engines may be needed in the coming decades, according to the US Chamber of Accounts, Bloomberg reported. The reason was overloading of the radar cooling system, as well as problems with other components of the fighter jet.
The Pentagon initially budgeted $1.3 trillion to operate and maintain the F-35 fleet for 77 years. Lockheed Martin said it was working hard to resolve the cooling system problem.
The Pentagon has previously said the F-35’s engine life will be cut by as much as 20%, even after the Block 4 upgrade, as the engines overheat more than originally anticipated.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/48481

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 11:05 utc | 281

In Ukraine, from June 1, the rules for mobilization will become more stringent, and it will become even more difficult for an ordinary person to avoid it.
Subpoenas will be issued not only by military commissars
In particular, the right to issue a summons is given to:
TCC employees;
employees of the SFU;
employees of the Foreign Intelligence Service;
representatives of local authorities;
heads of enterprises;
members of diplomatic missions abroad.
At the same time, from June 1, TCC employees will be able to hand out subpoenas to all men, regardless of who is assigned to which military registration and enlistment office.
The law does not allow appealing the service of the summons. That is, in any case, the man who received the summons must appear at the time and place specified in the summons.
In particular, from June 1, three new categories of citizens will be subject to mobilization:
Suitable and partially fit for health reasons during martial law men aged 27 to 60 years without military service experience;
Suitable and partially fit for health reasons during martial law, men with military service experience between the ages of 18 and 60;
Men aged 18 to 60 removed from the military register, who were found fit or partially fit for health reasons during martial law by the decision of the VLK, who did not commit a serious crime.
Apparently, Ukraine is really experiencing a serious shortage of personnel. So serious that they will be forced to call in limited fit and people who were previously recognized as unfit for service.
This suggests that the scale of the losses that Ukraine bears may be even greater than the most daring estimates.
In fact, this is the “legitimization” of the lawlessness that the employees of the Ukrainian military registration and enlistment office are now doing together with the police, whose employees can be sent to the “Guards of the offensive” for not fulfilling the plan. Mobilization of the name of Zelensky will lead to the death of a huge number of Ukrainians.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/48482

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 11:06 utc | 282

🇪🇺🇺🇦🇷🇺 Unelected by the EU people Von der Leyen opposed the ceasefire in Ukraine
The head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, at a security conference in Slovakia opposed the proposals of countries to achieve a ceasefire in Ukraine.
According to her, this “will only freeze the conflict”, and the line of contact will be a source of destabilization for the region.
“A ceasefire that leaves the conflict frozen will not lead to a lasting peace <…>
A ceasefire would be unstable and would destabilize the region along the line of contact.
No one will invest or rebuild (Ukraine) and conflict could flare up at any moment. No.
A just peace should lead to the withdrawal of Russian troops and equipment from the territory of Ukraine,” she said.
The head of the EC also once again supported the “peace formula” of Volodymyr Zelensky.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/66463

Posted by: Down South | May 31 2023 11:10 utc | 283

ostro | May 31 2023 11:03 utc | 280
It won’t be easy, because the US and its allies/satraps still dispose of much power. And I have my concerns about the NATO exercises shortly to take place extremely close to the conflict zone.
But you’re right that the UK is full of fools. Believing what you read and see in the media is a good trait when your media is run by people who have your interests at heart. When the media is not run by such people, believing it is very bad for your health.
I think of the post-war Brits as being a bit like the booby birds, seabirds whose isolated locations in the Southern Oceans led them to have no fear of humans (and so be easily caught and eaten). Up until the 1960s the UK media and education system was mostly run by people like them. Not so much now, yet they still believe what they’re told.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 31 2023 11:14 utc | 284

In Ukraine, from June 1, the rules for mobilization will become more stringent, and it will become even more difficult for an ordinary person to avoid it.
Subpoenas will be issued not only by military commissars
In particular, the right to issue a summons is given to:
TCC employees;
employees of the SFU;
employees of the Foreign Intelligence Service;
representatives of local authorities;
heads of enterprises;
members of diplomatic missions abroad.
At the same time, from June 1, TCC employees will be able to hand out subpoenas to all men, regardless of who is assigned to which military registration and enlistment office.
The law does not allow appealing the service of the summons. That is, in any case, the man who received the summons must appear at the time and place specified in the summons.
In particular, from June 1, three new categories of citizens will be subject to mobilization:
Suitable and partially fit for health reasons during martial law men aged 27 to 60 years without military service experience;
Suitable and partially fit for health reasons during martial law, men with military service experience between the ages of 18 and 60;
Men aged 18 to 60 removed from the military register, who were found fit or partially fit for health reasons during martial law by the decision of the VLK, who did not commit a serious crime.
Apparently, Ukraine is really experiencing a serious shortage of personnel. So serious that they will be forced to call in limited fit and people who were previously recognized as unfit for service.
This suggests that the scale of the losses that Ukraine bears may be even greater than the most daring estimates.
In fact, this is the “legitimization” of the lawlessness that the employees of the Ukrainian military registration and enlistment office are now doing together with the police, whose employees can be sent to the “Guards of the offensive” for not fulfilling the plan. Mobilization of the name of Zelensky will lead to the death of a huge number of Ukrainians.
#source (“>https://t.me/ukraina_ru/151488)

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/32034
No place to hide from NATO induced genocide policies.

Posted by: unimperator | May 31 2023 11:17 utc | 285

Thanks b for the reporting, and for keeping your bar open for all of us. Terrorising civilians is really what the US/NATO war machine seems reduced to at this point.
RU 2nd strike on ‘decision making centre’:
If the reports are correct, staying inside Ukraine’s borders has now become a very high risk proposition for NATO and senior merc staff. Any senior such contact that will be moved outside Ukraine will make communications more difficult and intercepts more likely.
Where are the Panzer Wunderwaffen?
So far not a single Leopard 2 or Abrams tank seems to have been struck. Are they on Ukrainian soil at all? If so, is that small lot still being held back for the ever-elusive grand offensive? It would seem unusally cautious while all the rest is being frantically thrown into the wood chipper, and after Western propaganda went out of its way to advertise those precious few tank transfers on every last TV screen.
NATO manoeuvres:
Perhaps also a cover to move a large amount of assorted kit close to the border, like Russia did before the start of the SMO.

Posted by: Leser | May 31 2023 11:20 utc | 286

The Russian President has to continue doing normal Russian President type things. It’s quite good politics getting on with visiting places such as ‘centres of creative industries’. What would he do otherwise sit around looking at war plans and biting his fingernails? The country has generals for that. People want to see that life continues.

Posted by: Inki | May 31 2023 11:24 utc | 287

YetAnotherAnon | May 31 2023 11:14 utc | 285
If there is a slightest sign that a war is about to happen in a NATO country, most of the eligible would simply leave that country. The so-called Article 5 doesn’t really say that a NATO country should join in the war effort of the other.
If RF is to go across the 3 Baltics, there would be lot of shouts, but no other country would really ready/in the mood to fight to for them. There’d be a lot of shout in Poland, but Poland would not even think of attacking the Russian Federation. Kaliningrad, Belarus and RF are nuclear powers. Finland in nothing, if/when push comes to shove.

Posted by: ostro | May 31 2023 11:29 utc | 288

Has anyone asked themselves, why RF forces don’t knock off the Ukrainian border cross points with Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Moldavia? RF is depleting the war machinery of the NATO. (I didn’t mention Hungary as it doesn’t supply any weapons to the Ukraine.) First whatever weapons, machinery, planes left of the former USSR, and now whole lot of “Western” stuff. They all get destroyed in time. The SMO is also about that.
Posted by: ostro | May 31 2023 10:47 utc | 278
The west is used to movies, if there are no big explosions and people yelling, they think nothing is happening.

Posted by: Bemildred | May 31 2023 11:35 utc | 289

anon2020 @ 261
Yes, it was a lovely moment of escape.
I make errors all the time. Most not so wholly egregious. Trust me about as much as any other fool on the web.

Posted by: oldhippie | May 31 2023 12:01 utc | 290

Ukro ship destroyed. Chechens moving in for awhile to eliminate some Nazis while Wagner takes a break. Infrastructure being targeted and destroyed on a daily basis. Seems like the RF has shifted up a gear. We shall see if it stays that way. You trolls gonna have to sign up for your hero zelensky soon.

Posted by: Watzov | May 31 2023 12:04 utc | 291

Posted by: Membrum Virile | May 31 2023 7:09 utc | 243
I too hate Nazis, but I take umbrage with people calling Richard Wagner a Nazi. He was definitely an anti-Semite, but in his mind (and indeed in the minds of many Europeans during his time), the Jews in Europe were synonymous with property owners. In fact, Wagner was part of the 1848 Revolutions, and, along with Mikhail Bakunin, tried to overthrow the leader of Austria-Hungary. He had to sneak out of Dresden to Switzerland, where he remained for the next decade. Das Rheingold, the first opera in the Ring cycle, is about the liberal Wotan trying to seize power from the capitalist Alberich, and Siegfried, who shows up in the third opera of the cycle, is the anarchist hero. Wagner was a complex individual, and was indeed anti-Semitic. But as Nazism wasn’t a thing at the time, it’s hard to classify him as one. He was an Anarchist in his youth, and the failure of the revolution led him to blame the Jews even further for all that had gone wrong. His wife, Cosima, did live long enough to be an ardent Nazi, but Wagner did not. Hitler loved Wagner’s music, but I don’t think he understood a lot of the ideas contained within, especially within the Ring cycle. Nazism is not just anti-semitism. It is also corporations and the state acting as one, something Wagner had not much to say about. He was a Nationalist, but Nazism is more than nationalism, and when you don’t have a nation, but are still living in a feudal system, nationalism is revolutionary. Carl Orff was a member of the Reichsmusikkammer, and I believe Richard Strauss was the head of the Reichsmusikkammer. These people were actual Nazis, yet Wagner gets the bum rap. Sorry for the OT rant, and also: kill all Nazis.

Posted by: Caveman | May 31 2023 12:25 utc | 292

May 31 2023 11:05 utc | 282
us dod made a big mistake (i saw it coming when they ended the alternate engine) designing only one engine for f-35. penny wise pound foolish!
that article advances the pratt and whitney (p&w), sole source engine suppliers for f-35, excuses. it is to prevent the funding of the alternate general electric (ge) engine!
the p&w engine (like the p&w engines in f-16) do not deliver required power at safe operating temperature!
the hotter an engine is run the more frequently they fail!
gao and one report from the dod program management organization support finding a new engine from ge which is mostly designed.
heavens forbid p&w pay to meet requirements they sold! like f-16, forty years ago, an engine that meets spec is needed.
bloomberg is reporting the excuses p&w are making!
btw the f-35 carries 16000 pounds of jet fuel almost 10000 more than f-16!

Posted by: paddy | May 31 2023 12:40 utc | 293

@ 282
The F135 Pratt and Whitney engine in the F-35 is the largest, hottest engine ever put in a fighter plane. Military officials have said recently they determined Pratt & Whitney’s proposal to modernize the already existing F135s in a program called the Engine Core Upgrade was the most cost-efficient option that would work for all F-35s. . .here. That’s to be expected. The F-35 after 23 years is still in development, not operationally tested and so not approved for full production. The F-35 mistake-jet is basically a jobs program providing more than 254,000 high-paying, high-quality jobs to American workers as part of a global supply chain. That doesn’t work either. More than 1 million F-35 spare parts worth at least $85 million have gone missing over at least the last five years, according to a new Government Accountability Office report criticizing the program’s supply tracking.

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 31 2023 12:44 utc | 294

If, as the Brit Defence secretary says, “they also have the right to use force outside their borders to undermine Russia’s ability to send force into Ukraine itself”, I assume that Russia also has “the right to use force outside their borders to undermine Ukraine’s ability to send force into Russia itself”.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 31 2023 12:46 utc | 295

Derek Henry @116
Please no more ghastly imagery of Nuland. No one , no one should have to imagine such images as you present.
JB

Posted by: Judge Barbier | May 31 2023 12:54 utc | 296

May 31 2023 12:44 utc | 295
the f-35 ‘system and major component specifications’ were not fully tested in the failed design phase to reduce risks of things like the ‘engine overheating to deliver required thrust in operating conditions’….
the lack of design test would prevent entry into operational test in a rational technical establishment!
what bloomberg missed is $38 billion in increase engine repairs is XXX engines not available to the f-35 operators!
there are now 600 f-35’s flying around that have hidden defects, and huge need for redesign.
the big question is: can the operational testers get enough successful flights to do a mission scenario?

Posted by: paddy | May 31 2023 12:54 utc | 297

If RF is to go across the 3 Baltics, there would be lot of shouts, but no other country would really ready/in the mood to fight to for them.
Posted by: ostro | May 31 2023 11:29 utc | 289
Why you think there’s a constant flow of weapons and soldiers to the baltics and other border countries? The largest nato training isn’t really a training, it’s the new normal in the most positive scenario. It’s too late for any action there or in other places. They’ve accepted Maidan, the new government, all ok. In 2022 they acted surprised, like 2014 was yesterday. Too late, they’re Syria now.

Posted by: rk | May 31 2023 13:09 utc | 298

@ostro | May 31 2023 11:29 utc | 289

If RF is to go across the 3 Baltics, there would be lot of shouts, but no other country would really ready/in the mood to fight to for them.

I am afraid Finland is. Why else would they join NATO and the war on Russia?

Posted by: Petri Krohn | May 31 2023 13:14 utc | 299

@270 unimperator.
I think russias nukes will be used for ostensibly defensive purposes to attack an overwhelming conventional force inside Russia’s declared borders.
But the front will be everywhere russia may have to irradiate a lot of its territory.
The Ukrainian state will never be allowed to quit. It will be used as a route to reclaim territory if/when russia loses control. Like how syria never cedes its lost territory on the off chance its enemies leave it for any reason.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 31 2023 13:19 utc | 300