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April 12, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-89

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

Richard Steven Hack notes:

Hello, Notes! What's going on?

In case anyone has missed this, the current lead story about Ukraine is the leak of alleged government documents about the conflict. Well, I’ve collected several of these documents and placed in a folder in my Google Drive. This also includes an article from a Chinese Web site by someone called “Suyi Control” who posts 38 document images and analyzes them. I have machine translated the article us Mate Translate. The link is here, anyone with the link can access them:
https://drive.google.com/..

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

Comments

Bemildred @ 93

I understand Baerbock is going to visit China now, that should be very interesting too.

I hear the Chinese plan to bring out a 1,267-year-old kazoo to play as a special music performance for her.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 12 2023 22:12 utc | 101

contd.
Nuland’s Role
That puts Kramer and, by one degree of separation, Big Ag fixer Morgan Williams in the company of PNAC co-founder Robert Kagan who, as coincidence would have it, is married to Victoria “F*ck the EU” Nuland, the current Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs.
Interestingly enough, Ms. Nuland spoke to the U.S.-Ukrainian Foundation last Dec. 13, extolling the virtues of the Euromaidan movement as the embodiment of “the principles and values that are the cornerstones for all free democracies.”
Nuland also told the group that the United States had invested more than $5 billion in support of Ukraine’s “European aspirations,” meaning pulling Ukraine away from Russia. She made her remarks on a dais featuring a backdrop emblazoned with a Chevron logo.
Also, her colleague and phone call buddy U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt helped Chevron cook up their 50-year shale gas deal right in Russia’s kitchen.
Although Chevron sponsored that event, it is not listed as a supporter of the Foundation. But the Foundation does list the Coca-Cola Company, ExxonMobil and Raytheon as major sponsors. And, to close the circle of influence, the U.S.-Ukraine Business Council is also listed as a supporter.
Which brings the story back to Big Ag’s fixer, Morgan Williams.
lthough he was glum about the current state of investment in Ukraine, he’s gotta wear shades when he looks into the future. He told the International Business Times, “The potential here for agriculture/agribusiness is amazing production here could double. The world needs the food Ukraine could produce in the future. Ukraine’s agriculture could be a real gold mine.”
Of course, his priority is to ensure that the bread of well-connected businesses gets lavishly buttered in Russia’s former breadbasket. And there is no better connected group of Ukraine-interested corporations than American agribusiness.
Given the extent of U.S. official involvement in Ukrainian politics, including the interesting fact that Ambassador Pyatt pledged U.S. assistance to the new government in investigating and rooting-out corruption, Cargill’s seemingly risky investment strategy probably wasn’t that risky, after all.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2023 22:13 utc | 102

Jdam is a usa weapon development system case study.
early on the contractor could not delivery at cost, corners were cut, reliable kits never a sure thing.
Posted by: paddy | Apr 12 2023 18:56 utc | 36
I was involved with something similar to JDAM years ago. They’re cost effective ways of disposing of Vietnam era munitions which have been sitting in warehouses for half a century. They also work really well against goatherds. But low cost weapons systems tend to not be resilient in a high tech battlefield.
A typical cruise missile has an inertial guidance system and 2 forms of knowing it is acquiring its target (GPS, laser, stellar, visual with stored maps, doppler, etc). Smart bombs cut cost corners and only use one. GPS is the cheapest, but it is also easy to jam by a near peer. Goatherds have no jamming equipment.

Posted by: First Time Poster | Apr 12 2023 22:26 utc | 103

reuters has a new article. ukraine hackers say they hacked the russian spys that hacked the Democrats 2016. lolz no doubt written by another hack. i do note they have altered the original heading to use one less hacked word. someone saw the farce.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ukrainian-hackers-say-they-have-compromised-russian-spy-who-hacked-democrats-2023-04-11/

Posted by: hankster | Apr 12 2023 22:29 utc | 104

I don’t see an infowar angle for the self-leak hypothesis, and it’s an extremely embarrassing way to build an off ramp when everyone could just start giving “anonymous” source info to the normal news channels.
However, it sounds like now Biden is floating “monitoring chat room” because of not so much the leak but how long it just (say out there). So a self leak to obtain more government/intelligence agency power would make sense and would explain the weirdness of the whole thing. Easy enough to never figure out who did it. The dictatorship of the intelligence agencies requires sacrifices and harsh measures.
I still lean towards Israel, but the above is way more frightening.

Posted by: Lex | Apr 12 2023 22:30 utc | 105

Anyone have a link to that alleged video of an alleged Russian soldier allegedly beheading an alleged Ukrainian prisoner?

Posted by: Elmer | Apr 12 2023 22:35 utc | 106

Don Firineach | Apr 12 2023 22:13 utc | 102
Kazakhstan. § Chevron
It was from the Chevron plant in Kazakhstan that the attempted color rev kicked off in 2021.
I noted (to self) at the time… Chevron Nuland Maiden §§ Chevron Kazakhstan (and I scanned for Nuland, I could sense her lurking malevolence)
@James:
Mahalia Barnes Joe Bonamassa
Riding with the Kings: (studio version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jFDAqwjy8o

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 12 2023 22:37 utc | 107

@Don Firineach 99
many thx for this one.
Would you happen to know a source for the alledged advertisements by the US Navy around the same time when it was looking for real estate on Crimea for a future training centre and administrative buildings, I believe.
(I once read something short but lost it. Others have had similar info. But without evidence people won´t believe me.)

Posted by: AG | Apr 12 2023 22:47 utc | 108

@Ново З 97
haha!
I rather took him for Z´s stunt double.
(even though he looks more like actor Richard Dean Anderson)

Posted by: AG | Apr 12 2023 22:51 utc | 109

Was reminded of this old Glen Ford essay/speech (RIP).
https://redsails.org/ford-on-ukraine/
Very prescient was he in 2014.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 22:54 utc | 110

@Melaleuca 107
Mahaliaaaaaaaaa

Posted by: AG | Apr 12 2023 22:55 utc | 111

Yulia Tymoshenko prattles on about Uke land theft and so on… maybe she will run for Oil and gas thief President of Ukraine if she can plat her hair.

Kiev sells Ukrainian lands to foreign companies
Since July 1, 2021, foreign individuals and legal entities have received the right to buy agricultural land in Ukraine. Yulia Tymoshenko spoke about the fact that this decision actually deprives local residents of land rights.
And since the beginning of SMO land began to be sold off even faster, and foreign companies began to buy not only agricultural land, fertile chernozems, forests, reservoirs but even natural and historical parks.
Meanwhile, the Ministry of Agrarian Policy and Food of Ukraine published statistical data, where it is indicated how many transactions were concluded during the two years since the introduction of the law.
Something suggests that all these transactions are concluded with foreign individuals and legal entities…

source: https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/1991

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 12 2023 22:58 utc | 112

A titter from my morning trawl of twitter:
1/ The air defense of Ukraine has ceased to cover even the near contour, due to the use by Russia of corrected air bombs, with which they strike at infrastructure and military facilities
2/ During his visit to the United States, Shmyhal [ Prime Minister of Ukraine] met with Pentagon chief Austin, and asked for F-15 and F-16 fighter jets and long-range missiles
Anyone else @bar see what amused me^
https://twitter.com/Spriter99880

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 12 2023 23:00 utc | 113

For someone who “ex”CIA armchair general Larry Johnson has turned somersaults to insist is not a CIA spy, the Amerikastani regime is certainly in an enormous hurry to retrieve Evan Gershkovich, isn’t it? Much more promptly that Brittney Griner, and of course there’s no comparison to Whelan, whom it made no attempt to exchange at all. The Site Beginning With Z And Ending With Hedge That Shall Not Be Named has an article about Blinken demanding “journslists” shouldn’t “set foot in Russia”.
Not a CIA spy, suuuuuuuure.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 12 2023 23:03 utc | 114

AG | Apr 12 2023 22:47 utc | 108
The U$ DoD Crimea contracts have been posted here a number of times.
I think by Don Bacon again relatively recently.
Perhaps trawl archives here to start.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 12 2023 23:04 utc | 115

It’s really quite simple. The bloated US “defense” budget mostly goes to “service” providers and wasteful fighter jet programs.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 19:33 utc | 48
Don’t forget the multi-billion dollar naval vessels. There never is enough left over for the Army who has wanted to modernize for almost 3 decades now.
The US has a system of almost 20 armories which are all capable of producing very much during a time of need. It is clear today is not a time of need. The armory in Tennessee that produces most of the energetics used in NATO artillery shells does not have a long list of help wanted ads. Neither does the armory in VA which produces rocket propellant.
Biden has simply been too free with cash for operating expenses (and graft) while depleting warehouses of obsolete stock. My recollection is all artillery shells produced starting in 2011 are considered insensitive munitions. Meaning they don’t explode when some Gomer drops them. These are not the shells being sent to Ukraine.
Other than a few things like HIMARS and a couple of AD systems, everything sent to Ukraine is from the boneyard. Better they dismantle it and dispose of the waste than for us to do it seems to be the motto. The US is almost ready to cut losses, but the jerk in charge always wants a few more drops of blood first.

Posted by: First Time Poster | Apr 12 2023 23:04 utc | 116

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 12 2023 17:13 utc | 10
“Much more likely is that Germany simply doesn’t notice this site”,
you should not underestimate the MfS, especially when it’s Chomsky who draws their attention to a website 😉
@many here, back to basic :
“There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.”― Sun Tzu

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Apr 12 2023 23:11 utc | 117

@Melaleuca | Apr 12 2023 22:37 utc | 107
Yes, Kazakistan is interesting – and wherever Nuland goes chaos follows …
@AG | Apr 12 2023 22:47 utc | 108
I’ve heard of this one – maybe on this site. Prob deleted by now ….
The Irish,of course would never allow it … as Crimea was captured for Russia by the Irishman Peter Lacy, who left Ireland after the Treaty of Limerick [which the English subsequently broke in implementing the horrendous Penal Laws – monument to him in Crimea … he was one heck of a soldier and never lost a battle …
Peter Graf[2] von Lacy (Russian: Пётр Петро́вич Ла́сси, tr. Pyotr Petróvich Lássi; English: Pierce Edmond de Lacy; Irish: Peadar (Piarais Éamonn) de Lása; 26 September 1678 – 30 April 1751)[3] was an Irish-born soldier who later served in the Imperial Russian army.
Considered one of the most successful Russian Imperial commanders before Rumyantsev and Suvorov, in a military career that spanned half a century he claimed to have participated in 31 campaigns, 18 battles, and 18 sieges. He died on his private estate in Riga, where he served as governor for many years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lacy

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2023 23:12 utc | 118

Jacob Dreizin has another of his important articles on the state of Ukranazistan and its NATO owners:
https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/04/10/dreizins-first-un-retraction/
1. In September a Russian fighter fired a missile in the general direction of a NATOstani spy plane, following which all manned NATO spy flights near Russia over the Black Sea abruptly ceased.
2. Russian FAB glide bombs have been having a devastating effect on the nazis (a nazi post on Telegram says the same thing). And Russia is finally using FABs to hit the bridges (the bridges certain people were claiming couldn’t be destroyed, remember? People who called me and others trolls for dissenting about that?).
3. Dreizin also talks about the nazi attempt to attack the Zaporozhye reactor.
4. Amerikastan is beginning to scale back the money it has been flooding into Ukranazistan.
There’s more in the article about Amerikastani domestic policies but that’s irrelevant.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 12 2023 23:12 utc | 119

(lol&erratum)
“you should not underestimate the BND”

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Apr 12 2023 23:16 utc | 120

AG @108 This could be what you want…
https://en.topwar.ru/44990-zachem-vms-ssha-sobiralis-remontirovat-shkolu-v-sevastopole.html

Posted by: dh | Apr 12 2023 23:23 utc | 121

113 the ukraine president. i waited a few days until i saw a few articles and pictures as thought it was a meme. but his plane had emoticons painted on it as a message. ukraine flag picture of jet fighter, then two hands together , ukraine jets please. or begs or prays. whateva you interpret from that but it wasnt subtle but was cheesy

Posted by: hankster | Apr 12 2023 23:26 utc | 122

@AG
worth reading ….
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2014/december/crimean-question-and-nato-strategy

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2023 23:35 utc | 123

>>> Question: Why does Ukraine even want the Donbass region anymore? Is there some rich concentration of resources there? Otherwise it would seem like they wouldn’t want territory inhabited almost exclusively by people hostile to their genocidal Russophobic bent. I guess I could see a “Shock Doctrine” type scenario where Ukraine gets a ton of IMF or other loans to rebuild it but most of the money is really pocketed by Western Ukrainian oligarchs and members of Zelensky’s administration, but the previous thoughts still hold. Seriously, what’s in this for Ukraine other than misplaced pride or goading from the USSA?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 20:19 utc | 59 <<< Yes Tom, didn't you know? 1. From 1991 - 2022, ~50% of Ukraine's GDP came from Donbass mining, agriculture and heavy industry. It's all now Russia's! Plus the ZNPP is gunna be a Russian electricty money tree once safely owned. Since 2022, Ukraine's GDP fell ~40%. Correlation ?!?! Even the cost of Donbass infrastructure repair is worth it over decades for Russia. Germany and Japan 1945 - 2000 anyone? 2. There are massive well-mapped but as yet untapped oil, gas, minerals, coal, salt, and more in the Donbass -- also now all Putin's. He sees it all as equally Russian as the people there. Many have surmised the SMO is partly a major (unspoken) motive for this invasion, ie, a resources grab. 3. Zelensky bungs on about national sovereignly, but really, he and his crooks want/need their GDP back. They have this deluded dream of "Ukraine as it happily was in 2004, 2014, 2022". Of course most Ukrainians east of the Dneiper wouldn't wear it. See 2010 electoral results, the Yanukovich zone. And, they're all now more hostile than a year ago. Once the truths come out, Zelensky is dead meat (in the east) --I suspect they'll vote more pro-Russian next election. 4.Polish manoeuvres and US/EU purchase interests currently grabbing Western Ukraine land is partly about military advantage but partly about future resources ... and I don’t mean chicken corn farming! Always more $$$ motives going on than meets the eye.

Posted by: The Dolphin | Apr 12 2023 23:37 utc | 124

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 12 2023 23:03 utc | 114
For sure the guy is some level of CIA asset. But re: Whelan, that dude is a known identity thief and if you’ve ever had your identity stolen you probably wouldn’t mind seeing him sent to a gulag in Russia. I know I don’t. Good riddance.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 23:37 utc | 125

@ First Time Poster | Apr 12 2023 19:13 utc | 39
thanks for that…
@ Melaleuca | Apr 12 2023 22:37 utc | 107
lol… an old geezer playing along…. my friend who died a few months ago used to refer to joe bonamassa as joe bore my ass off,lol.. here is more my speed, lol.. this is a great blues album as i see it.. – Pops Staples – “Somebody Was Watching”
here is another track off the album.. title applies to the thread here.. “No News Is Good News”

Posted by: james | Apr 12 2023 23:43 utc | 126

The various riches of Donbass were actual, not theoretical, because of Russian workers with Russian culture. See how far a skin of tats and green hair gets you without a Russian.

Posted by: oldhippe | Apr 12 2023 23:51 utc | 127

@dh | Apr 12 2023 23:23 utc | 121
Nice one!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2023 23:55 utc | 128

Cool stuff maybe a zip file, scramble the bits a bit.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 12 2023 23:56 utc | 129

This is from a few years back.
RH Auslander is a Crimea resident (ex US citizen). He wrote 3 books on the 2014 USNATO Crimean campaign:

Here’s what really happened
The coup d’eta in Kiev in ’13-early ’14, which my tax dollars (I still paid US taxes back then, I don’t now as all my business ain’t there anymore) paid 5 BILLIONS for, had one goal and one goal only, which was to make this huge village of Sevastopol the base for the American Black Sea Fleet, pure and simple.
American Navy and Marine officers were already in Sevastopol and in Feodosya on the south coast for several years and had mapped out where the US Black Sea Fleet HQ would be (at the west terminus of Ulitsiya Bogdanova, the main drag on North Side) and had actually started renovations on the two main schools, Gymnasium #5 and School #40, off Ulitsiya Simonok (Simonka).
The entire west end of North Side was to be Little America, going from Rahdio Gorka (Radio Hill) district on the north side of the harbor mouth all the way north to the village of Lubimovka along the main north/south road and all the way down to The Sea and the best beaches in this village.
All the locals were to be put out (including us).
School #5 (entirely different location from Gymnasium #5) at the west end of Bogdanova was to be the location of the actual HQ and the large Spetznaz Base next to it was to be flattened for additional buildings for HQ.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 12 2023 23:57 utc | 130

I’ve read the various leaked docs, but everytimeI look at them, l feel like I’m reading the Sunday comic section. They have a low information content, and the numbers presented have a high degree of uncertainty.
Everything is hedged in someway, The important pieces of information is missing – eg. transport available and how many days of ammunition and fuel for each group.
I’m left with two general impressions of the leaked documents. First they seemed to have been developed for persons of limited intellectual capability. Second the documents, in my opinion are short on functional intelligence; they seem a summary of opinions about the status of Ukrainian AF. No time table for objectives if there is to be an offensive.
If these leaked docs represent the top intelligence available on Ukraine’s capabilites 4 to 6 weeks prior to a major offensive. It should be a no brainer to state, not estimate, your own forces’ strength, supplies, and the order and plan of battle. I don’t see this level of intelligence provided by these documents, more like watered down Bud Lite.

Posted by: Jerr | Apr 13 2023 0:00 utc | 131

Re and Whelan.
My take is that Gershkovich was definitely an asset, if not an agent.
So Blinken (State) wants him back …
Whelan was freelancing and nobody really cares…
Re Larry Johnson, Ritter, Mcgreggor.
They *all* have their various blind spots.
Johnson still buys the bullshit 9/11 comic, and has embarrassed himself with his “defence” of Gershkovich.
Mcgreggor doesn’t mind a bit of DU spread around, and Ritter … probably needs ritalin (not really).

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 13 2023 0:07 utc | 132

Melaleuca #113
F15 and F16 fighter jets….
Laughing my jet engines off
:))
:))

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 13 2023 0:10 utc | 133

Biswapriya Purkayast #114

For someone who “ex”CIA armchair general Larry Johnson has turned somersaults to insist is not a CIA spy, the Amerikastani regime is certainly in an enormous hurry to retrieve Evan Gershkovich, isn’t it? Much more promptly that Brittney Griner, and of course there’s no comparison to Whelan, whom it made no attempt to exchange at all. The Site Beginning With Z And Ending With Hedge That Shall Not Be Named has an article about Blinken demanding “journslists” shouldn’t “set foot in Russia”.
Not a CIA spy, suuuuuuuure.

Thank you. Well said brother.
And thank you for: “Jacob Dreizin has another of his important articles on the state of Ukranazistan and its NATO owners:”
https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/04/10/dreizins-first-un-retraction/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 13 2023 0:14 utc | 134

Re the Polish desires on west Ukraine:
Has everyone here seen the “Zhirinovski Ukraine Map”, circa 2015? Google Image it. His prescience was crystal clear. In 2015, on behalf of the RF Duma, Zhirinovsky formally sent it to Poland, Romania, Moldova, Hungary, Slovakia, half seriously, half as a taunt to Ukraine, with a prediction it would eventually come to pass with a message (paraphrased>>>) “Hey guys, how about we carve up and compress Ukraine into a sensible corner of history?”. Lol.
Of course, Ukraine was aghast, and the others all (overtly) said no. Of course, NATO/US didn’t want it, so have since used it as bait for this proxy. Funnily, all the others are currently, somewhat tentatively, agitating for exactly THE SAME OUTCOME. Lol.
Imo, THIS MAP is the eventual territorial holy grail of Eastern Europe that everyone is presently envisaging, excepting that:
1. Zelensky is “dealing” Poland its slice;
2. NATO/US desperately trying not to lose the whole Black Sea Coast to Russia;
3. Russia is gunna set up a Dneiper fence line by hook or by crook.
I loved that radical Zhirinovsky … as did Putin.

Posted by: The Dolphin | Apr 13 2023 0:18 utc | 135

Brian Berletic… never disappoints.
Latest upload
Ukrainian Air Defenses Dwindling, West Scours World for Arms on Eve of “Spring Offensive”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qXMJOf9-M
~ Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for April 12, 2023:
– Russian forces continue taking territory around the fortified cities of Avdeevka and Bakhmut;
– Russian forces now control much of the west bank of the Bakhmutka River;
– A Ukrainian missile fired deep into Crimea (and intercepted by Russian air defenses) may have been a Ukrainian Grom-2, comparable to the Iskander missile with a range of 500km;
– Despite the capabilities of the Grom-2 and potential NATO assistance to produce them (most likely in Poland) it is unlikely these missiles will appear in numbers large enough to overwhelm Russian air defenses;
– NYT admits Ukrainian air defenses are deteriorating, allowing Russia to more freely use its military aviation;
– While Western analysts claim this development may not translate into Russian success, arriving at this juncture is already very much a Russian success;

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 13 2023 0:24 utc | 136

I think you mean direct nuclear attack *by* the USA, young@2?
I don’t think even the Bidet regime is that stupid.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 13 2023 0:37 utc | 137

Before Mr Elensky calls for action against Russia over the alleged beheading of an alleged ukraine soldier, maybe he should take action against those of his soldiers who slit the throats of surrendered Russian troops last June AND against those who executed surrendered Russian troops by shooting them in the head whilst they lay on the floor in Makeevka.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 13 2023 0:46 utc | 138

@AG | Apr 12 2023 22:51 utc | 109
I meant to mention that towards the end of the interview he starts talking freely about what they want from Australia and then unexpectantly line drops out – almost like someone thought he was saying too much..
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018885769/senior-ukrainian-defence-advisor-in-new-zealand

Posted by: Ново З | Apr 13 2023 0:49 utc | 139

Just putting it out there – I have bemoaned the slow progress of Russian offensive actions in Ukraine myself quite a few times on here.
But.
When I think about the broader context – O think the Russians intend to wrap this operation up in Q1 2025 (Jan-Mar 2025) – they want this operation to operate as a drag on Biden and they want to get rid of him and his cabal of NeoCon scum – I am fully on board with that.
So if we make an assumption that the Russians will call for a unilateral ceasefire on January 21, 2025 with a new Administration in the White House (this is the hope anyway) – we can put a stopwatch on this operation and working back from there we can then determine what the realistic end goals of the operation are or may be.
21 months, 1 week & 1 day from today until January 21, 2025.
How many days is that?
649 days until January 21, 2025.
Given the operation was launched on February 24, 2022 – the halfway mark of the operation is set to be reached in August 2023 – in four months time.
I would like to think that by August 2023 the Russians will at least control all of Donbas.
I would also like to think that the Russians will refuse all negotiations for peace with the Biden White House because the Warmongering Biden Administration has proven themselves “Agreement Incapable”.
They can then say they will wait for the verdict of the American people on the Biden Administration’s actions in Ukraine and await the results of the 1014 US Elections before reconsidering peace negotiations – which gives them until January 2015 to continue the SMO.
These are currently my working assumptions anyway.
And to “Young” – get off the crackpipe – there will be NO nuclear conflagration – probably ever – but certainly not before 2025.
There are many important elections coming up between now and January 2025 – Turkey, Russia, Ukraine (2024 – can it or will it be held?!?) USA, UK & EU Presidency – obviously the US and potentially Ukrainian Elections are the most important for potentially changing the course of the conflict.
If there is to be a change in Western policy vis-a-vis Ukraine it could well be engineered via ballot box manoeuvres and/or shenanigans.
It looks to me like 2024 is the really crucial year for this conflict – not 2023.

Posted by: Julian | Apr 13 2023 0:52 utc | 140

FELLOW BOOZERS….The drinks are on me at the bar tonight!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 13 2023 0:52 utc | 141

And Russia is finally using FABs to hit the bridges (the bridges certain people were claiming couldn’t be destroyed, remember? People who called me and others trolls for dissenting about that?).
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 12 2023 23:12 utc | 119

Not so fast.
They hit one bridge of absolutely zero civilian or military importance.
That bridge was right at the Russian border up there in Chernigov oblast. There was nothing but swamp and forest between it and Russia. I still have no idea why they hit it to begin with — the initial hypothesis was that it was a gliding bomb and it was a test, but then it turned out it was an expensive Kh-31 missile, the use of which for that target made absolutely no sense.
The big bridges on the Dnieper are the contentious issue, and Russia always had the means to take them out — Kinzhals, small nukes, etc. It is very clearly a political decision not to do it. One in a long series that drive so many in Russia crazy about the way the war is (not) being fought and that raise strong suspicions the country will once again be sold out, possibly terminally this time.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 13 2023 0:55 utc | 142

didn’t read the thread — just came to post this. headliner in asiatimes today: ‘Ukraine’s spring offensive a likely death trap for US, NATO”
https://asiatimes.com/2023/04/ukraines-spring-offensive-a-likely-death-trap-for-us-nato/
bear in mind that nearly all of asiatimes is mockingbird stencilists, so this headline signals that the establishment and its narrative are turning direction.
this turn comes at the heels of the Pentagon document leak, which we can now read as providing an anchor for a slew of upcoming MSM stories pushing to bring an end to the Ukraine conflict, or at the very least to pop the bubble that NATO is winning and can win.
while that push may not be wholly in concert with the neocon agenda, we can nevertheless see the massive machinery slowly turning direction

Posted by: mastameta | Apr 13 2023 0:59 utc | 143

Simplicius the Thinker
SITREP 4/12/23: Offensive…or Collapse?
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-41223-offensiveor-collapse

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 13 2023 1:00 utc | 144

Jerr | Apr 13 2023 0:00 utc | 131
If these leaked docs represent the top intelligence available on Ukraine’s capabilites 4 to 6 weeks prior to a major offensive
Yep.
———
As @outraged and I discussed in previous thread.
Trolls and drolls here and everywhere either wittingly (or not) conflated the crap “intelligence” in the docs with the dubious provenance of the docs.
“They’re fake” got flooded through threads.
No. The docs are authentic. The “content” is … put generously… dubious.
My curiosity went to why “Streisand Effect” the leak/breach?
A decade on, the vast majority still haven’t seen Wikileaks “Collateral Murder” vid, for which Assange is obscenely incarcerated.
Why is this leak in NYT WaPo MSNBC CNN +++?
IMHO the leak/breach embarrasses the ISW /Kofman/ Rob Lee / “osint” intel cabal.
I think this really is the “caliber” of intel they control and are pushing up into the “decision tree” at pentagon and State.
Jake Sullivan, and the demand to the controlled corporate media that the leak be ignored, is not to stop “us” seeing it, (we are irrelevant), but to throttle the info to Milley, Austin, Congress, et al.
IMO guys at that level live in an info bubble… there’s more “intel” here @bar, than makes its way to decision nodes at Congress, Pentagon and State.
I remember watching a Judging Freedom some months back, and Napolitano raised his eyebrows, interjected and clarified, something either Ritter or Mcgreggor (it’s a blur) said …
I was “how the fuck can you not have known that????”.
And I realised, there really is an information void .. which is why Team Nuland has been able to destroy Ukraine without serious confrontation from within the U$.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 13 2023 1:06 utc | 145

Finian Cunningham is very good at Strategic Culture today, he is becomong a must read columnist,
“Macron’s Musings on Europe’s ‘Strategic Autonomy’… Much Ado About Nothing, But U.S. Insecurity Is Palpable”
“….It’s an audacious affectation for American politicians and media to project that they are doing Europe some kind of noble favor over Ukraine and saving the European damsels from the “barbarian Russians”. It’s so corny and false, yet thanks to Western media brainwashing the old trope still works.
“What the furore over Macron’s comments shows is just how under the American thumb (make that heel) the European leaders are. For a European president to aver that his country and other members of the European Union should make their interests a priority in pursuing independent relations with China and in particular to avoid a conflict over Taiwan is, one would think, a rather mundane matter of common sense, reason and normal prerogative. That the American political class has reacted in such a furious way shows, ironically, just how abjectly subordinate the Europeans really are. Macron speaks out in a rare moment of clarity and the American backlash is knee-jerk and nasty… because how dare those European vassals get out of line!
“More importantly, the American anger may be overbearing and bullish but it nonetheless reveals how fragile the sense of insecurity in Washington is.
“The American establishment is increasingly sensing that there is a chronic systemic crisis in U.S. global power. The presumed unipolar American order is waning and a multipolar world is ineluctably emerging. The once-mighty U.S. dollar is no longer affording the security it once did. China, Russia, and the Global South are pushing more and more strongly for a multipolar order that will make the American dollar and its unique, arbitrary privileges redundant. When that fully happens, the debt-strapped U.S. capitalist economy and its erstwhile global dominance will crash like so many empires before it….”
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/04/12/macron-musings-europe-strategic-autonomy-much-ado-about-nothing-but-us-insecurity-palpable/

Posted by: bevin | Apr 13 2023 1:14 utc | 146

Some videos for today.
Worst mass shooter in New Zealand history trained by Ukrainian Nazi Azov battalion:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/nazi-training-new-zealand:2
Bird’s-eye view of the aftermath of battles in the center of Artemovsk:
https://odysee.com/@SputnikInternational:c/AftermathArtemovsk:e
Russian Mi-28 assault helicopter in action:
https://rutube.ru/video/025ddcc1fa41934483d80a72d8846a72/
Russian artillery pounds enemy positions:
https://rutube.ru/video/6d59a2e69c50a6836f0443a88f9ec3bd/
Russian Lancet drone destroys Polish-supplied self-propelled howitzer:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/Gpaz1WYaJrw1PsaP:b
Incendiaries rain down on Kiev regime positions in Artemovsk:
https://odysee.com/@Overthrown:6/IMG_3379:0

Posted by: Nate | Apr 13 2023 1:15 utc | 147

@Melaleuca thx!
since I am relatively new here I keep forgetting the search engine
(probably one of the most valuable non-state archives online)

Posted by: AG | Apr 13 2023 1:21 utc | 148

@Melaleuca
re: Ritter
He is a puzzling one.
Sometimes he is truly touching when speaking about Assange e.g. (call me sentimental)
And then again he displays his US MC routine which is almost parody.
But there are a few things he sure knows about.

Posted by: AG | Apr 13 2023 1:27 utc | 149

Ново З | Apr 13 2023 0:49 utc | 139
Yep. NZ interview… when he got to what commitments requested from Australia …. Someone definitely shut him down…
What I got:
Tanks. All your tanks belong us
Bushmasters. Both tranches of Bushmasters are now destroyed. You’ve still got a few in stock.. hand them over ..
Plus…
(And that’s where he got cut off. )
Lol.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 13 2023 1:28 utc | 150

@Don Firineach 118
@dh 121
thank you!
gotta read & research now…

Posted by: AG | Apr 13 2023 1:31 utc | 151

Jerr #131
The “classified documents” were obviously simplified cartoons specially prepared for a briefing to President Biden. Unfortunately; Biden was more interested in what flavor of ice cream that his wife was going to serve him.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Apr 13 2023 1:32 utc | 152

This is a new one from Simplcitus, as usual extremely illuminating:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-41223-offensiveor-collapse?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
A lot about the extensive problems that the Western equipment is having with Russian EW and the backing off of Western reconnaissance flights after Russian actions, the use of guided 500 and 1500kg Russian bombs (with 3000 and 5000 kg coming!), the Russians dredged up the MQ-9 Reaper drone etc,

Posted by: Roger | Apr 13 2023 2:06 utc | 153

AG @ 151 It’s not easy to find details of the US plans for Sebastopol anymore. I don’t think they want people talking about it.

Posted by: dh | Apr 13 2023 2:13 utc | 154

Melaleuca | Apr 13 2023 1:06 utc | 145
What your seeing now in the USA, Europe, and European Asia is organizational psychosis of the political and military structure. Their views of their role in the world don’t relate to reality. I don’t know how far the transference has penetrated throughout the military organizations but it’s has completely captured the political organizations and their electorate.
It is not Ukraine, Capitalism, Colonialism its something very different. It’s the transhumanist great reset like they said. They are really out to dehumanize society, not in the sense of degrade but to get rid of humanity – mRNA, transgenderism, DEI,the Gaia crusade, AI, anti-agriculturism, etc. all part of it.
They are the new Golem, made not created.
In the West it’s becoming a hysteric movement, going beyond comprehension.
I’m most concerned that even they do not know what they will do with the weapons they now control. How Ukraine will be divided is now of little or no consequence. It has served its purpose. The struggle, not war, is for humanity, and will go beyond whatever happens in Ukraine.
It will be a long affair.

Posted by: Jerr | Apr 13 2023 2:26 utc | 155

Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 13 2023 0:55 utc | 142
Obvious you have selective retention.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/41336?single
https://t.me/sitreports/7018
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/54095?single

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 13 2023 2:30 utc | 156

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2023 22:13 utc | 102
The event where Cookie Monster boasted about the 5 billion spent on Ukraine with the Chevron backdrop was partially sponsored by Catherine Claire Chumachenko, Ukrainian American who happens to be married to, or was married to, or chilled with Viktor Yushchenko (bee-stings Orange Revolution fame-first fall guy) at the ol’ honeypot back in the early 2000s. Interesting. Viktor and Chumachenko met. It must have been fate. True love.
I was looking for some reference, which I can’t find right now, and I ran across this.
Maidan in Mandarin
I bet the Chinese journos have a ball with it. Settle the bill. Check, please.
One cannot make this stuff up.

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 13 2023 2:32 utc | 157

Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 13 2023 0:55 utc | 142
You really should read beyond Kirby and official Ukie Nazi glorious reports.
Simplicius also talked about Russia using glide bombs on Ukie bridge.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-41223-offensiveor-collapse

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 13 2023 2:35 utc | 158

Ukraine war has given China breathing space and time to put more miles between itself and USA. The longer it takes to confront China the more difficult it becomes to USA and allies.
On the other hand a war in the Pacific will allow Russia to launch SMO Part 2.
The situation around Iran is alarming. Iran does not have the opportunity to attack Saudi and Qatar oil and gas exports in case of war as they have a peace plan. Iran has no other effective means of hurting USA and allies economically. This makes war likely around Iran.

Posted by: Jason | Apr 13 2023 2:42 utc | 159

Ok, so they’re now shitting their twisted panties over the “leak”, which, as far as I can tell, said that there’s US special forces in Ukraine. Isn’t this something most of us here already knew? How much of this leak has really been common knowledge for how long? Shenanigans are US!

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 13 2023 2:43 utc | 160

@Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 12 2023 23:12 utc | 119
Yeah, the use of these FABulous 250, 500, 1500, whatever glide bombs brings the level of respectability of Russia’s SloMO campaign up considerably. Best part is that since the Ukies are detonating buildings after the Russians have captured them, Russia now simply just blows up the buildings with these FABulous bombs while the Ukies are still inside them. So slowing but surely Russia is being forced to conduct war in a manner that even Stalin would approve of.

Posted by: gT | Apr 13 2023 2:49 utc | 161

“Army General Mark A. Milley, who is chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said of the war last March 15: “Russia remains isolated. Their military stocks are rapidly depleting. Their soldiers are demoralized, untrained, unmotivated conscripts and convicts, and their leadership is failing them. Having already failed in their strategic objectives, Russia is increasingly relying on other countries, such as Iran and North Korea.”
If Milley and Austin and a good chunk of military “leadership” actually believes that, then maybe they have some ideas what to do with those 20k troop of the 82nd and 101st.
That’s the big takeaway for me from the document dump, just how lost that leadership seems to be. They take what Ukraine says as credible??? I hadn’t really considered that as a possibility, but it does seem to be likely. Dr. Strangelove: Milley and Austin and their crew should go in with the first wave. Why should they be at all concerned?

Posted by: oracle | Apr 13 2023 2:59 utc | 162

Ново З @139 re NZ assistance to UKR
A few weeks ago there was a discussion of a video showing a Western mercenary officer yelling at his poorly trained Ukrainian squad. No one could quite place his accent, eventually identifying him as Maori (indigenous NZer). If anyone was wondering what became of him, he’s being buried this afternoon in my local cemetery. Killed in Ugledar apparently, so his remains were probably repatriated on a plastic tray in the manner of ground beef. Working with an “intelligence unit” according to the linked article, does this mean SBU death squad?
Maori make fierce warriors and comprise the backbone of our SAS etc but it’s still seriously bizarre so see someone fighting and dying for Ukraine’s divine mission to “lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade … against the Semite-led Untermenschen.” Likewise with the queer Maori Labour MP who collaborated with Adrian Zenz’s Uyghur propaganda. Working with people who have genocidal intent toward you and yours must take some serious compartmentalization and cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Apr 13 2023 3:08 utc | 163

@SP Korolev 163
I remember this character. One can probably
safely assume that he was deputised to Ukranazistan by the New Zealandistan regime with his “former” military status a cover story.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 13 2023 3:27 utc | 164

Re: Leaks only matter is they have to capacity to change the outcome, otherwise they are purely to misdirect or just white noise.
does anyone with a working brain seriously think these leaks will make any difference to how the russian mod finishes off ukraine?
does anyone with a working brain think nato or the pentagon can do squat to alter ukraines ultimate obliteration?
the leaks are at best for momentary entertainment who time has already past.
Posted by: oak | Apr 12 2023 17:36 utc | 18
Bravo. You nailed it in a short summary. The leaks are meaningless for this conflict. Russia will benefit from them LT in developing its strategy and tactics, but it won’t affect the Ukraine conflict a lick.

Posted by: JustTruth | Apr 13 2023 3:28 utc | 165

That the American political class has reacted in such a furious way shows, ironically, just how abjectly subordinate the Europeans really are. Macron speaks out in a rare moment of clarity and the American backlash is knee-jerk and nasty… because how dare those European vassals get out of line!
bevin | Apr 13 2023 1:14 utc | 146
_____
Hilariously pathetic, n’est pas? Ray McGovern, referring to American “Intelligence”, would call this “invincible ignorance.” Le Petit Prince has an epiphany of
the blindingly obvious, then somehow musters the herculean courage to say out loud what the peasants in Parisian streets have been screaming for years: that European vassals must reclaim sovereignty and restore true democracy. De Gaulle of the man!

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 13 2023 3:32 utc | 166

That the American political class has reacted in such a furious way shows, ironically, just how abjectly subordinate the Europeans really are. Macron speaks out in a rare moment of clarity and the American backlash is knee-jerk and nasty… because how dare those European vassals get out of line!
bevin | Apr 13 2023 1:14 utc | 146
_____
Hilariously pathetic, n’est pas? Ray McGovern, referring to American “Intelligence”, would call this “invincible ignorance.” Le Petit Prince has an epiphany of
the blindingly obvious, then somehow musters the herculean courage to say out loud what the peasants in Parisian streets have been screaming for years: that European vassals must reclaim sovereignty and restore true democracy. De Gaulle of the man!

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 13 2023 3:32 utc | 167

American foreign policy: Down with the Sickness”, Disturbed. Richard Cheese does a lounge version that’s cool. He also does other bands. Stephen Lynch, for a little “R” rated comedy. And, for you more serious people, The Dave Mathews Band. Or just go with Louis Armstrong, “Sunny Side of the Street”. Cheers.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 13 2023 3:39 utc | 168

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 11-12 Apr 2023⚡️
🔹#Belgorod Region:
▪️ In #Belgorod, a Ukrainian drone equipped with an explosive device collided with the fence of the international airport. The fence structure and the alarm cable were damaged.
▪️ As a result of the shelling of the Novostroyevka-Vtoraya village, a residential house and an outbuildings were damaged and one civilian was injured. Four residential houses have been damaged in Stary farmstead.
🔹 #Starobelsk (#Svatovo) Direction:
▪️ Position fighting near #Makeyevka and Balka Zhuravka, as well as artillery duels along the entire front line continue in the #Liman sector.
▪️ In preparation for a counterattack, the Ukrainian command is moving additional forces to the #Terny – #Torskoye section.
🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction:
▪️ The RF Armed Forces continue to conduct an operation to encircle the enemy grouping in #Bakhmut. The assault squads of the Wagner PMC are supported from the flanks by units of the Russian Airborne Troops, inflicting a fire damage on the Ukrainian formations.
▪️ In the northern part of #Bakhmut, the “Wagnerians” continue their offensive towards the Bakhmut-2 Railway Station.
▪️ In the south of the city the frontline has not changed. There is active fighting for School No. 2. The enemy is transferring additional reserves to hold its positions in the areas of Chaykovsky Street.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ South of @Avdeyevka, Russian troops are advancing towards #Severnoye, methodically knocking out the AFU from their strongholds on their way to the settlement.
▪️ In #Maryinka, fierce fighting continues on Druzhba Avenue. Russian artillery and tanks are targeting enemy positions.
▪️ The AFU terrorists fired barrel and rocket artillery at populated areas of the #Donetsk agglomeration. Residential buildings and infrastructure have been hit in the capital of the DPR, and at least two people were wounded.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ Artillery duels along the entire line of contact continue. The Russian Aerospace Forces carried out airstrikes on AFU military and infrastructure facilities in #Orekhov and #Gulyaypole.
🔹#Kherson Direction on #SouthFront:
▪️ Russian units hit enemy ammunition and equipment concentrations in #Dneprovskoye, #Nikolskoye and #Kherson, and used guided aerial bombs on an enemy ammunition and equipment depot in #Berislav.
➖ For their part, the Ukrainian terrorist formations shelled civilian facilities on the left bank of #Kherson region. Residential buildings in #Alyoshki also came under fire, killing two civilians.
🔸Political Events:
▪️ Mass seizure of UOC MP churches continues in #Ukraine. Supporters of the schismatic PCU have seized St George’s Church in #Khmelnitsky.
▪️ #Volyn region has banned activities of the UOC MP – earlier a similar decision was taken in #Rovno and #Khmelnitsky regions.
▪️ Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal has paid a working visit to #Canada and #Washington. Following the meeting, the parties signed a declaration on a free trade zone between the two countries. The Canadian leadership will allocate weapons and ammunition to the AFU as part of military assistance, as well as expand sanctions against #Russia.
▪️ In a meeting with US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin, Shmygal asked for long-range missiles and heavy armoured vehicles in preparation for a counterattack.
▪️ Zelensky has held a meeting with a delegation from the US Senate to ask for additional financial and military aid for #Ukraine.
▪️ Ukrainian politician Viktor Medvedchuk’s wife Oksana Marchenko has been put on a wanted list in #Ukraine. The SBU had earlier accused her of “financing actions to overthrow the constitutional order”.
▪️ Zelensky has submitted a bill to the Verkhovna Rada to denounce the Agreement on Mutual Protection of State Secrets between #Ukraine and the Republic of #Belarus.

https://t.me/sitreports/7093

Posted by: Down South | Apr 13 2023 3:45 utc | 169

Doug Hillman@167
You do realise that those are Finian’s wordsnot mine? I would hate to seen to be stealing the credit his work deserves.
Jerr@155
Who are “They” and where does their power come from?

Posted by: bevin | Apr 13 2023 3:47 utc | 170

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Apr 13 2023 1:32 utc | 152
Looked a great deal like hard copies of a Power Point (or some such) presentation to me.

Posted by: Duke | Apr 13 2023 3:54 utc | 171

Passerby @ 31
If the US has already spent $48 billion on the Ukrainian war, and possibly a similar amount as “black budget”, and Russia has lost 17100 men, then the cost to the US is $2.8 million per Russian killed. Add to that the cost of lost business.
I suppose if amounts spent by the USA on Ukraine are separated into military/humanitarian/financial aid, it might paint a different picture, although I would argue there is little accountability tying the Zelensky administration’s hands and they could theoretically spend all of it on military aid if they wanted to. Be that as it may, the amount the USA has supposedly given Ukraine solely for military aid is $63.6 Billion USD, and that is part of a total of $104.9 Billion from the USA. Other donations added from other countries take the total well over $200 Billion.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-trudeau-shmyhal-1.6806853
Consider; when Poroshenko was President of Ukraine, he mused that it would take about $70 Billion to put Ukraine back together, after that many years of civil war. Present-day, the world has spent more than $200 Billion on Ukraine, it’s falling to pieces, and the World Bank estimates the cost of reconstruction at another $411 Billion.
Considering the entire annual GDP of Ukraine is about $200 Billion…well, I don’t quite know what to say. Except that the Ukrainians have become world trendsetters in shilling for money. Check out the triumphant arrival of Ukrainian PM Denys Shmyhal here in the country that has the world’s second-largest Ukrainian diaspora. Check out the emojis on the side of the official aircraft – alongside the national flag is a pictorial plea for fighter aircraft.
https://static.mk.ru/upload/entities/2023/04/11/18/articles/detailPicture/98/72/95/6a/3d181e92f2388a42fb54772d9c06fe2d.jpg
Could be a photoshop; I wasn’t there, I don’t know. But the Russian press covered it extensively, and you would think news networks worldwide would have learned to watch out for photoshop tricks.

Posted by: Mark | Apr 13 2023 3:54 utc | 172

@ Melaleuca | Apr 12 2023 23:00 utc | 113
Way to go dementia Joe.
@ Melaleuca | Apr 13 2023 1:06 utc | 145
Quite so. And yet again, for the very slow learners or not paying attention, all Intel product is ~85% open source, only when assessed &/or corroborated by ‘other means’, graded for credibility & reliability re source (per data point/paragraph) does it become, classified. ‘Tis not something magical written on stone tablets presented from upon high on the Mount. Childish. Hello ?
Further, the rot re professional non politicized ‘product’ started to go belly up post ’91, but even from late ’70’s re Iran, Iran-Contra/Ollie North run out of WH (Iran-Iraq War ’80-’88 & Contras, especially so since lead-up to Iraq War ’03 WMDs/Al Qaeda onwards(Including WH/neocon generated false imagery re imaginary Iraqi imminent invasion of KSA). That rot has become embedded due Cheney/Powell/Wolfwowitz/etc, lead-up to Iraq War’03 WMD, aluminum tubes, outing covert agents(NOC) via attacks on diplomat husband, not singing in tune, politicized feedlot Intel Silos, and if the professional analysis & product does not align with the desired end-product from up on high, individuals are sidelined & eventually purged. The intel product to be used by the Neocons is forced ‘pre-shaped’ to justify their delusions, magical thinking & aims/objectives. The same winnowing that occurred throughout USA armed forces over the same period, last 30 years plus. See: ISW, Oryx, BellingCrap, Syrian Human Rights Observatory, Curveball, etc …
PS One of the reasons for enabling widespread ‘Enhanced Interrogation Techniques'(Petraeus(Betray-US)(Iraq/ME, thence Head CIA)) was so as to be able to fabricate pre-determined false Intel via, torture. Hyper-political Brennan re the farce of the ‘Steele Dossier’, Comey, the very creation of the politically controlled overlord of politicized Intel in the form of Clapper(EX Director CIA) re Director of ‘National Intelligence’. To support & enable policy, internally, NOT the other guy (ie Belligerents, Russia, etc). Hello ?
@ Surferket | Apr 13 2023 2:30 utc | 156
@ Surferket | Apr 13 2023 2:35 utc | 158
Quite so, routinely. Selective amnesia & corrupted/faulty recall ?
@ S.P. Korolev | Apr 13 2023 3:08 utc | 163
Regardless, likely misled, indoctrinated, pointless. Sad …
@ oracle | Apr 13 2023 2:59 utc | 162
For an oracle, you missed all the statements in Dec’22 & Jan’23, and again from late Mar’23, re Ukraine cannot win, Ukraine cannot take Crimea, a Ukraine offensive cannot change the course nor outcome of the conflict. An oracle ?
@ JustTruth | Apr 13 2023 3:28 utc | 165
The leaks are to aid the internal factional conflicts/fights re Ukraine & the wider geo policy course & consequences even blind freddy can see & foresee, accelerate disunity re Neocon agenda within US ‘leadership’, secondarily drop a grenade within US/NATO/EU/5-Eyes re maintaining the ‘dictated’ course. They are ‘obviously’ not meant to influence the Russkies in anyway, & certainly will not & never would.
@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 12 2023 23:03 utc | 114
Is there any prominent public anti-imeperialist you have not personally repeatedly slandered misusing this forum, yet ? Asking for a friend.
@ Jerr | Apr 13 2023 0:00 utc | 131 & Jerr | Apr 13 2023 2:26 utc | 155
Perhaps change your nic to FUD ? And you have handled tens of thousands of highly classified Docu over decades, inclusive SCI & Codeword ? Drafted, produced & compiled them ? Utilized them ? Served in an Intel capacity to be able to make such FUD declarations based on your extensive personal knowledge & first hand experience. Perhaps your cartoonish colleague FUDD may deign to share some cake with you. FUD & FUDD ?.
@ Elmer Fudd | Apr 13 2023 1:32 utc | 152
As per your usual. Simplified cartoon, Elmer Fudd. And no, classified briefings for the Prez are another, tightly restricted, higher grade of SCI, specifically prepared individually for the Prez. The leaked Classified were prepped for ‘point in time’ daily rolling summaries & briefings for the JCS. All this jibber-jabber yet ignorant of even basic issues & facts ? Hm …
@ Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 12 2023 20:12 utc | 57
Multiple threads … repetitious much ?
As per your previous, previous request, no need to travel to Cuba, please enjoy your, FOAD cake.

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 13 2023 4:02 utc | 173

Everyday brings new grist to this meatgrinder war.
Right now it’s the document leaks. Lots of details to obsess over and the analyses have become more distilled with each day.
So, let’s face the music. Putin and the generals are the maestri of this war. It is they who conduct the tempo, and the musical metaphors do not escape them, being the masters of the troll. But the finale has yet to be scored. The battle for Bakhmut, for all that bangbang,is very adagio.
What is apparent is an impasse between western propaganda, with its accompanying invoilable moral superiority, always doubling down- and the reality of “facing the music”. Cue the western modernists: insert some improvisation into this cannonade of Russian classicism!
So we have an interesting riff of leaks. From the Pentagon. But for what disturbing purpose? For the Pentagon or for Foggy Bottom? The State department engineered this war, the military takes orders from the administration. I suspect that the State department, led by the Straussians as the revolutionary vanguard, throw their murmurous might behind the Azov of Ukraine. The Pentagon may pin their hopes on Zelensky and the Rada, and on”process”. The Pentagon, by leaking information that pops the bubble on Ukraine’s “invincibility”, as per State department propaganda, has proffered the notion of “negotiation”. JIT, they think.
But those who prefer to deal with reality might say that Zelensky doesn’t stand a chance negotiating with the Azov. Poetic justice,anyone? And the Pentagon has yet to factor in this:
When it comes to negotiating, the Russians will cal the tune.

Posted by: Australian lady | Apr 13 2023 4:06 utc | 174

@ Outraged | Apr 13 2023 4:02 utc | 173
Correction: … Contras, especially so since lead-up to Persian Gulf War ’90/’91 WMDs/Al Qaeda onwards

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 13 2023 4:15 utc | 175

why doesn’t Hersh get his source to elaborate on this major claim:
“The intelligence official told me that everything Putin has been “doing in Ukraine is counter to Russia’s long-term interests. Emotion has overcome rationality and he’s doing things that are totally nonproductive.”
this is an importent view from a well-placed source but Hersh never asks his source WHAT EXACTLY is Putin doing that is “irrational?” that is very very strange. at best it’s a poor editing choice.

Posted by: zt | Apr 13 2023 4:30 utc | 176

@S.P. Korolev | Apr 13 2023 3:08 utc | 163
For more than 150 years, there has been a Maori word that has applies to these people
– kupapa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%ABpapa
A news item said that Kane Te Tai was planning on soon leaving the Ukraine with his Ukraine fiancee. Instead, I hope this guy
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2018867728/jordan-o-brien-kherson-on-the-moving-ukrainian-front-line
is now saying hello to Kane.

Posted by: Ново З | Apr 13 2023 4:41 utc | 177

@Outraged 173
Off your medication again, are you?
Tut tut.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 13 2023 4:42 utc | 178

@ Outraged | Apr 13 2023 4:02 utc | 173
DogDamn! Old age. Correction: … all Intel product is ~85% open source, should be: … all non-Codeword, non-Compartmented SCI, Intel product is ~85% open source
@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 13 2023 4:42 utc | 178
No denial ? Zero valid response re serial ongoing conduct ? Merely yet more ad-hominem … a compelling case. My friend will be so disappointed. 🙂

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 13 2023 4:50 utc | 179

“Shadow” – banned is seriously selectively dyslexic. He only posts what posits his theories.

Posted by: Arcticman | Apr 13 2023 5:01 utc | 180

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 13 2023 2:32 utc | 157
Cookie Monster, LOL. I’ll be stealing that, thanks.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 13 2023 5:08 utc | 181

Immaculate deception | Apr 13 2023 3:39 utc | 168
I think Nine Inch Nails had it sorted with “Mr Self-Destruct”
“I drag you down, I use you up….” That is only a small sample but the whole lyric is appropriate.

Posted by: ZimZum | Apr 13 2023 5:15 utc | 182

zt | Apr 13 2023 4:30 utc | 176
I’ve been watching that stuff for a while. Regardless of his past reputation he is a limited hangout. He’s batting for the team.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 13 2023 5:18 utc | 183

@ Peter AU1 | Apr 13 2023 5:18 utc | 183
Careful matey, might invite a pile-on for pointing out the obvious. The Imperial Team. Personal view, from the get-go, alongside post My Lai whitewash, future youngest ever, African-american CJCS Powell. Far too many ‘groupies’, & emotionally attached … colors judgement.
Glad to see you well enough to post more often. Still Steel

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 13 2023 5:37 utc | 184

@shadowbanned | Apr 12 2023 21:41 utc | 86
Essential, good summary. Thanks. The US is a kind of island, now devolving into a state of psychological inbreeding.
“The Americans are a very lucky people. They’re bordered to the north and south by weak neighbors, and to the east and west by fish.”

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 13 2023 5:52 utc | 185

Norwegian | Apr 13 2023 5:52 utc | 185
And they’re still not happy.

Posted by: ZimZum | Apr 13 2023 6:02 utc | 186

shadowbanned #142

The big bridges on the Dnieper are the contentious issue, and Russia always had the means to take them out — Kinzhals, small nukes, etc. It is very clearly a political decision not to do it. One in a long series that drive so many in Russia crazy about the way the war is (not) being fought and that raise strong suspicions the country will once again be sold out, possibly terminally this time.

The big bridges on the Dnieper are handy as they deliver the nazi military and their press ganged forces to the eastern killing fields. The Ukrainians have the long supply problem NOT the Russians. Russia has the means to choke the rail services to a few diesel locomotives so there is a constant trickle from west to east and should there ever be a big Uke “offensive” then I guess they might throttle even that to a drip feed with a well placed shot or two.
The Uke capitulation is the outcome of this battle front but you must remember that Russia is playing for a much tougher outcome: the restoration of NATO boundaries as per 1990 or somewhere like that. ie the absolute removal of all NATO bases and nukes from their new locations .
Russia wont use nukes and they have made that clear that depleted uranium munitions are nukes too in their world view. Now the braindead Poland is blathering about manufacturing some – just to help out their UK cousins.
As the thousands of Ukrainian military foot soldiers are eliminated along with their artillery, Russia can increment westward and simultaneously deprive Ukraine of its daily war crime of shelling civilian centres. A good thing. This will take some time and obviously Russia has no intention of throwing away its soldier’s lives. Another good thing.
This war is not a rerun of the Vietnam war only for Russia. The entire world watched the USA storm across Vietnam with stretched supply lines and a very unfriendly populace crushed underfoot. The consequences were thousands of bodybags and even more thousands of crammed hospitals with wounded US soldiers. The very unfriendly populace was more than willing to supply the Vietnamese heros with info to wipe out the invader. Russia is not that silly.
Take a peek at the venomous religious war being cranked up against Eastern Orthodox Christians suddenly being aggravated to extreme by Zelensky – he wants to make the place ungovernable for an occupier and untenable for a government for years to come. Zelensky is the neo-con dream warrior puppet. Certainly Russia can read this loud and clear so it is not about to stampeding west for some time unless there is capitulation and a policing mechanism and social design process in place that could reverse the decade plus level of race hatred fomented in the young.
This war will last a long time and there is little advantage in accelerating it westward until the entire eastern boundary region is fully secured and access to the sea is closed.
I doubt that the voices of homeland discontent are anything like your assumption. What is your data? I see reports of Putin’s approval as being an extraordinary feat of leadership and confidence in his management of the liberation of Ukraine and the homeland economy.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 13 2023 6:06 utc | 187

@Outraged 179
I need you to be hale and hearty so you can take the mocking you and the rest of your echo chamber heroes will keep getting from me. So please take your medication, you’ll need it.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 13 2023 6:13 utc | 188

What happened to warnews247? No updates in almost a fortnight…

Posted by: Boris Badenov | Apr 13 2023 6:45 utc | 189

The person behind a massive leak of classified US military documents worked on a military base and posted sensitive national security secrets in an online group of acquaintances, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.
The Post reporting, which CNN could not independently verify, covers new ground in identifying the supposed leaker of highly classified documents – including some that paint a pessimistic US view of the war in Ukraine – and provides the first known details about who may be behind a major national security breach that has rocked Washington in recent days.
The leaker, described in the Post story as a lonely young man and gun enthusiast, was part of a chatroom of about two dozen people on Discord – a social media platform popular with video gamers – that shared a love of guns and military gear, The Post reported, citing an interview with the leaker’s friend who was also part of the group.

The leaker, going by the moniker “OG,” began posting messages to the Discord chatroom last year that referenced military jargon, The Post reported. In the months that followed, the leaker posted messages in which he appeared to transcribe classified information from US documents, according to the report.

“OG claimed he spent at least some of his day inside a secure facility that prohibited cellphones and other electronic devices, which could be used to document the secret information housed on government computer networks or spooling out from printers,” according to the Post.
The report went on to describe the Discord server apparently controlled by “OG,” where recently leaked classified documents were posted, as a “pandemic refuge, particularly for teen gamers locked in their houses and cut off from their real-world friends.”

Bellingcat, an investigative outlet, first reported on the connection between the leaked documents and the two Discord servers.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/13/politics/pentagon-leaked-documents-military-base/index.html

Posted by: Down South | Apr 13 2023 6:55 utc | 190

❗ Bakhmut night: As mentioned before, the front line is now almost completely pushed to the railway line. Fierce battles along this line. North of the Avanhard stadium, Wagner forces try to finally push UA behind the railway line, it seems as if they are having increasing success. In the center, however, the train station remains the hottest topic here. Brutal and bloody battles. The simple question now is who is willing to take control at any cost.
To the north, Wagner is advancing a little south, and has captured a few houses just west of the railway line.
In the NW, fierce fighting continues around Rose Alley. There is now a large area in the gray area here. Wagner pushes here but powerful.
In the SW, fierce fighting continued on Tchaikovsky Street. Here, too, Wagner + VDV units are slowly but surely increasing the pressure. There are minor successes of a tactical nature in this area. This is also due to the fact that additional forces have now arrived.
On the flanks: The fighting here is almost as fierce. The pressure from RU here between Ivanivske and Bakhmut is also enormous. So far, however, UA has succeeded in preventing Wagner stormtroopers + VDV units from breaking through the supply route. There is also fighting north of Chromovo. There are no changes to report here. The same goes for Bohdanivka. Position battles here.
In general, the RU Artillery and Aviation works very hard today troughout the day. This will also make it easier fir Wagner + VDV units to be able to celebrate success. Time will tell, but i’m very optimistic that soon the areas UA controls are getting smaller and smaller.

https://t.me/geromanat/5847

Posted by: Down South | Apr 13 2023 6:57 utc | 191

Bellingcat, an investigative outlet, first reported on the connection between the leaked documents and the two Discord servers.
https://www.cnn.com
i will put my money on the exact opposite being the truth that bellingcat ever says

Posted by: hankster | Apr 13 2023 7:00 utc | 192

🇵🇱🇷🇺🇺🇦 Military pilot recruitment in Poland
The other day it was reported that recruitment of military pilots from different countries has started in Poland. They are allegedly planned to be used for direct participation in hostilities within the ranks of the AFU.
🔻How true is this information?
At the end of March, we wrote that the words of former US reserve lieutenant colonel Dan Hampton about his readiness to fight in the conflict in Ukraine were not said by accident. They were part of a planned information campaign aimed at agitating pilots to go to Ukraine.
Similarly, Western countries had previously recruited foreign mercenaries by publishing various videos with dozens of people from different countries as part of the “Foreign Legion”. As then, it is Poland that acts as the main transit hub before being sent to Ukraine.
Characteristically, the “faces” of these media campaigns were usually not involved in the fighting themselves. This is not surprising: their only task was purely publicity. Thus, the African-American Malcolm Nance sat in Lviv the whole time, and the Afghan refugee Jalal Noori after several “motivational” interviews with CNN and other Western media simply disappeared from view.
🔻 What can this tell us?
The search for pilots that has begun is a direct confirmation of the shortage of qualified personnel in the Ukrainian Air Force. During combat operations the enemy aviation has lost the lion’s share of the most experienced flying personnel.
That is why very “green” lieutenants have been flying tactical aircraft for the last few months, and in some cases they graduated prematurely because of personnel shortage. Replacing losses with foreign pilots capable of flying Soviet aircraft should, in theory, at least rectify the situation.
However, in the long term, the recruitment of pilots is in fact preparation for the handover of Western-made fighters to the AFU. The current denial of the very possibility of aircraft deliveries may be part of an information campaign in which the West’s position on this issue will be consistently softened.
The information about the recruitment of foreign pilots does not mean that the conditional F-16s will necessarily be transferred to Ukraine soon. But it does demonstrate a long game and the West’s willingness to drag out the armed conflict for at least another year.
But the capabilities of foreign pilots should not be overestimated either. For all their skills in Ukraine, they will have to face a language barrier, an echelon of Russian air defences, a lack of constant escort by E-11A-type control planes and other realities they have not encountered in bombing the IS or Taliban.

https://t.me/sitreports/7108

Posted by: Down South | Apr 13 2023 7:00 utc | 193

Polish PM declares Poland as leader of new Europe during visit to the White House
During a meeting with VP Kamala Harris at the White House, Polish PM Mateusz Morawiecki has declared that Poland is a leader “new Europe” that would be ready to confront Russia alongside with the US. In addition to hostile rhetoric towards Russia, Morawiecki did not forget to mock Brussels, referring to President Macron’s recent statements. “There are no nations that love freedom as much as Poles and Americans, and this unites us,” he declared.
But it seems that not only freedom unites Poles and Americans, but also weapons, since Morawiecki expressed a desire to build the strongest army in Europe, so they want to cooperate with American Defense industry, to which the White House gladly agreed.

https://t.me/sitreports/7107

Posted by: Down South | Apr 13 2023 7:03 utc | 194

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/12/discord-leaked-documents/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Leaker of U.S. secret documents worked on military base, friend says
Story describes provenance of leaked documents.

Posted by: Sushi | Apr 13 2023 7:09 utc | 195

@Outraged
Was reading through the Asia times article linked @143 just now and thinking whats going on. It’s been a bit ofr a toss for me as to if it is a deliberate leak with some deliberate disinformation ahead of the spring offensive or as Johnson and McGovern tend to agree on a faction withing the pentagon trying to stop a wider war or the suicide offensive.
Hersh – he names Biden as ordering to pipelines blown and others in the admin where shocked when he went ahead and ordered the charges to be triggered. Sole responsibility resting on Biden.
The sudden coverage of the leaked documents and what US officials have been saying. Basically ensuring the leaked docs get full public attention.
But thinking of the various aspects, perhaps that group around the leaked docs i wider than some pentagon pentagon out to take down team Biden. That would be the team Hersh is batting for.
I saw a video some days back, I don’t remember where now about the Dems preparing a younger bullshitter to replace Biden in the next election.
There is also the faction in the US that wants to leave off fighting Russia so they can start a war with China. I guess they think US will fare better in a naval and air war with China than a ground war with Russia.
I don’t know how accurate this scenario is but things come together a bit if they are looked at as US preparing its Afghan exit from Ukraine with Biden or Biden and crew being the fall guy for everything that went wrong there.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 13 2023 7:15 utc | 196

you literally almost made me spit up my drink with that posted snippet I wont reprint. Close call.
where do I send the invoice for the poster buying drinks?
i will put my money on the exact opposite being the truth that bellingcat ever says
Posted by: hankster | Apr 13 2023 7:00 utc | 192

Posted by: Not Ewe | Apr 13 2023 7:35 utc | 197

@ uncle tungsten | Apr 13 2023 6:06 utc | 187
An excellent concise summation. Bravo.
@ hankster | Apr 13 2023 7:00 utc | 192
Indeed, & they DID NOT.
@ Down South | Apr 13 2023 7:00 utc | 193
Either way, dead men walking, especially if flyin’. Further diminishes Empires pool of reserve pilots … secondary de-militarization.
@ Sushi | Apr 13 2023 7:09 utc | 195

When rendering hundreds of classified files by hand proved too tiresome, he began posting hundreds of photos of documents …
… approximately 300 photos of classified documents, most of which have not been made public; some of the text documents OG is said to have written out …
But OG had a dark view of the government. The young member said he spoke of the United States, and particularly law enforcement and the intelligence community, as a sinister force that sought to suppress its citizens and keep them in the dark. He ranted about “government overreach.”
… the group contained foreign citizens — including from Russia and Ukraine, the members said. … he server hosted people from Europe, Asia and South America.
… unbeknown to the group, on Feb. 28, another teenage user from the Thug Shaker Central server began posting several dozen photographs showing classified documents on another Discord server affiliated with the YouTuber “wow_mao.”

Now not more than a hundred, but ‘hundreds’ of classified pages, transcribed, then hundreds more photographed, going back to last year, ie earlier than Jan’23. Profile sounds like a young, late 20’s/early 30’s, NCO, MI, E-7/E-8 ? Oops! Hohoho. lol
@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 13 2023 6:13 utc | 188
Continued mocking of, Echo Chamber Heroes ? Really ? Concerned, genuinely, such, concern. You forgot the /s, yet again, heh ? Awww. 🙂

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 13 2023 7:36 utc | 198

In reality, everything looks something like this:
A brigade or division has about a hundred “locations” in which the minimum number of people lives – up to 30-40 in the “largest” and from 2 to 20 in standard ones.
Standard places of residence are basements, private houses, apartments, dugouts on 2-3 lines of defense, basements on 1 line.
Almost no one, except for the commanders, knows each other.
Privates (except for those who have survived since 2014) are not familiar with the remaining 99% of the unit’s personnel.
Products are delivered to the main locations. The food is monotonous, but there are no problems with it.
It is not difficult to guess that everyone is scattered because of the threat of shelling by Khimari (HIMARs). If you bring together even 200 people, they will definitely fly by them.
Until now, the morons officers who, at a distance of 5-10 km from the front line, put next to several Urals with people and equipment, columns, have not been translated. Because it’s so “convenient” for them and they don’t understand how it can be otherwise – to arrange transport with personals and equipment at least 20-40 meters away. Until now, there are morons officers who, for the sake of convenience, are trying to crowd a company or an entire battalion in one place. You can’t do that. But in the completely discredited “MOD academies” – they did not teach modern warfare. Here they can’t.
What is the complexity of the location of personals ?
The rear officers (and there are no others) are used to the fact that there is a barracks where everyone sleeps in piles. They gave him this barracks – that’s where it’s supposed to live. These guys have not seen any other options in their lives.
Here you have a bunch of people, let’s say 300 people. You arrived – where to put them? Who knows.
Those who are smarter turn to the officers of the LDNR, that is, to the local warriors, for help. Donbass is extremely saturated with bomb shelters and dual-use buildings – therefore, the best and easiest way to distribute personals is to negotiate with the owners of these premises (the majority go forward). Communicate with local residents in villages and towns – they can suggest broken-down empty buildings with good basements. Further, it is necessary to independently conduct electricity or buy a generator, gasoline and equip the economy in every possible way.
All transport must be kept under sheds, carefully camouflaged, all equipment must stand far from each other – it is wasteful to work on single targets – the enemy fires only clusters.
After arriving at the location, especially stupid rear chiefs have an idea in their heads that mobile phones, the Internet, etc. are to blame for everything – no.
Individual local residents (sympathizers with uprops) instantly report (for money) to the SBU all the latest news – including who drove in, who arrived in what quantity and where they are.
A local resident will easily come up, smoke with gullible soldiers who want to look in the best light – find out who has arrived, provide moral support and then go to write a report to the SBU. The same is done by individual servicemen who were greatly offended, or mobs, who were originally on the side of the dill.
The most important thing to understand is that the enemy knows everything. Where are all the command posts, equipment, where and when does it travel. And it’s not about phones.
Therefore, the best way to protect personnel and equipment is decentralization.
Yes, management is very difficult, there is an increased need for means of communication, but it would be better for everyone to be troublesome and uncomfortable than everyone to be dead.

This passage from a “Russian channel” quoted by Simplicius is literature on this war for me. The lodging of rest and sleep is so important. I was wondering how they organize it all. Perhaps this picture will also endow “couch generals” among us with a little humility of any kind, who like to pretend what Russia should have already achieved in order to send psychological signals against the West or whatever.
Regarding the beheading video: Regardless of whether what is supposed to be shown happens, the urgent motive of effect and authorship seems to speak for a party that is under a lot of pressure. Who cannot allow their own army to surrender to the enemy in a constantly desperate situation in order to prevent a snowball effect, but at the same time wants to advance against the enemy in a last stand charged with ruthless anger. There are previous tales:
The UN was supposed to visit a prison housing Ukrainian POWs long ago at the start of the conflict, which was under fire, killing inmates. The UN was never granted access. The explanation why an investigation failed should never reach the public in detail as well. I suspect it was because Kiev was outmaneuvering it with the usual “sovereign state” tactics, as IAEA experts learned, arriving from the west through the front line rather than following the safer route from the east. And suddenly Kiev cannot guarantee security for an investigative group. What a suprise.
Ukrainian units are said to have recently surrendered and were then shot at by their own comrades. It bears the signature of this charm of the downfall of extremists, as experienced by the Germans in the last century.
Of course, the experts in the western media are aware of this motive, especially after all the leaks. These “liberals” are also desperate and a small snowball develops into a blizzard of unreality that reproduces itself almost independently. Well, German media are already digging up Navalny again – I call this acts of desperation in their purest form.

Posted by: Konrad | Apr 13 2023 7:43 utc | 199

@ Peter AU1 | Apr 13 2023 7:15 utc | 196
As said when Hersh first published re Nordstream, IMV the only reason he’s still breathing is he is shielded & protected by a faction, my guess was & still is DOD/DIA owners, ’cause they sure as hell do not want to go toe-to-toe with RF. Given that the coverage does not disclose/publish any actual Docs, own-goal/self-own, damaging, not Disinfo/Psy-Ops. Russkies not influenced by such public disclosures. RF has excellent HUMINT/SIGINT.
That the leaks likely were by a rogue individual over an extended period, doesn’t discount the evolving Situ has been subsequently advantageously hijacked to damage/undermine owners of Neocons/Biden faction & minions, policies/aims/objectives/influence, IMV.
Afghan exit was confirmed as a necessary pre-requisite to launch Proxy Ukraine conflict. An admission of Empires weakness, crucially compounded by fundamental underestimation/delusion of RF capacities/capabilities. Big, very big, Oops.
Do not believe DOD/DIA seriously wishes to engage kinetically with PRC, in fact even less so than RF. Boosted MIC sales/production on the other hand, maintaining a near ‘hot’ ongoing status, whilst ignorant of accelerating rapidly changing geo-reality though ?

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 13 2023 8:04 utc | 200