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April 7, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-84

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

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Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

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Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 1:49 utc | 101
Already bookmarked it. Curious to know how that page/site manages to get a snapshot but the Wayback Machine (Internet Archive) can’t. I could swear that in the past WBM usually worked.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2023 1:51 utc | 101

Simplicius the Thinker has just said Hello!
MAJOR: Nato Plans for Ukraine Leaked
As many of you have likely heard, a major leak from U.S. DOD headquarters has just occurred the day before yesterday. Initially, I wasn’t going to cover it because there was a strong chance it could be fake, and it’s not worth the effort of a full deep-dive for a document of questionable origin/validity.
However, now the Pentagram has confirmed the validity of the documents, as they panickedly trying to scrub the internet of the documents. From NYTimes:
[Read on ….
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/major-nato-plans-for-ukraine-leaked

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 8 2023 1:54 utc | 102

It’s a dumb psy-op. Nobody in the Russian camp takes it seriously.
Posted by: Boo | Apr 8 2023 0:40 utc | 94
It’s clearly acpsy ops to mindscrew the Russians into being complacent about this coming offensive. The Nazis can’t hide it so the US engaged in a massive disinformation campaign. They are the global experts in bullshitting.
Here’s what I wrote in comment on Simplicious.
“Make no mistakes the Nazi offense will come before end of April. Too much maskarov spread even to normally pro Russian bloggers to proclaim that the Nazis are in no shape to launch any offensive.
Everything actually points to the coming offensive in evidences that really matters.
Take the total number of Nazis that are trained in US, Canada, UK, Europe and the numbers will reach 100k.
Look at Russian MOD daily reports and you’ll see no tanks killed, no real AFV killed. Just mobile and static artillery and pickup trucks.
The real stuff is pulled back and gathered for the big push.
The west have always supplied more tanks, artillery, planes than they declared publicly.
So expect at least 600-800 tanks, more than 2k assorted AFVs, and minimum of 500 artillery/rocket.
It’s the Nazis last shot as the west has run out of money and ammo to give them. Time is not on their side abd Satan is demanding souls.
I really hope Russia is prepared for this Do or Die.
My guess is broad front attacks initially to mask true objective, and later to keep the Russians pinned to the whole front to prevent them from reinforcing the real objective once that’s clear.
The nuclear plant is a secondary and much easier objective. Lots of PR and Russia is not going to risk irridiating their soldiers to die defending it. Expect the Nazis to throw 30k at it and Russia to withdraw. That’s why the west flooded the Nazis with river fording equipment. After the plant is taken the Nazis will leave 20k to consolidate defences and sent 10k to the real objective as reserves.
Which is Mariupol and a shot at Crimea. that’s 70k and most of the armour and artillery. Spitting distance for Nazi artillery even if they stopped there.”

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 1:59 utc | 103

@18 yes the gliding precision bombs do seem to be working well as a precise standoff weapon.
The ground strike aircraft are getting hammered though. Su25 get downed pretty easy.
Russia better be stock piling lots of stuff, ukraine will be shooting them soon whatever the us equivalent is.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 8 2023 2:01 utc | 104

@ outraged 90
Mr ( Abdul ) Gaffur will know about the DP leaks that were plants by Pegasus equipped Israel. The documents may be genuine but we are being prepared for something. The documents apparently show that Zelensky’s claims about a counteroffensive are genuine. Could be Preparation for a false flag where he is the hero and Russia the villain.
I have swallowed too much blag in my life to believe anything.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2023 2:06 utc | 106

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2023 1:51 utc | 102
Archive.org regularly has ‘sensitive’, to the PTB, archives, flushed. Such should be checked via archive.today first, often saves time.

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 2:18 utc | 107

Came back to post the link to Simplicius, but I see I was beaten to the punch.
So yeah, not fake. Let’s see what the fallout is, if anything…

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2023 2:21 utc | 108

@ karlof1 # 97 with the Lavrov quote…thanks
I especially like the last sentence you quoted

To protect the security of the Russian Federation, we are doing what we have been warning about for almost ten years.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2023 2:24 utc | 109

Here’s the paywalled article linked to by Simplicius regarding *other* non-Russia/Ukraine related docs also having been leaked, which could help establish the authenticity of the ones we’re talking about here. Also, as he states, could still be a psyop.
https://archive.ph/XdUD1 h/t to Outraged for the new handy site.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2023 2:26 utc | 110

@Thim | Apr 7 2023 20:38 utc | 42
Russia hasn’t fought for a city; they are fighting to destroy Ukrainian forces. The only strategic value of the city was that it was crossroads used by Ukraine to supply other places. Russia captured the roads and railroads long ago and continued on past the city.
Russia left the western side of the cauldron open so that Ukraine would continue concentrating their remaining forces there where Russia could keep them trapped. Russia started the real attack on the city when Ukraine ran out of bodies to send in. “Bakhmut” will become a name of this strategy of concentrating an enemy’s forces in order to destroy them.
“The only reason for time is so that everything doesn’t happen at once.” –Albert Einstein

Posted by: barstool | Apr 8 2023 2:31 utc | 111

@ Neofeudalfuture | Apr 8 2023 2:01 utc | 105
Essentially no ADS, so with what, slingshots ? Further, to intercept the glide bombs the AFU ADS must be designed/capable/programmed to do so against a unique maneuvering target (Guidance!) profile at ~500-1180Km/h. AFU ? No ability to update/reprogram pre ’91 ex-Soviet ADS & critically short of missiles. No. The donated western ADS short of missiles in same Situ ? No.

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 2:48 utc | 112

https://archive.ph/XdUD1 h/t to Outraged for the new handy site.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2023 2:26 utc | 111
It’s just a report to say there are more documents but nothing about the details. I’m interested in what the docs have to say about China.

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 2:50 utc | 113

I live in China and Chinese social media are very open about the war in Ukraine. Lots of videos showing grenades dropped on Wagners in trenches. Latest is 3 groups of Wagners entered a building and got blown up when the Nazis detonated the building.
Of course these Chinese social media also show the Nazis getting slaughtered. But on the whole the reporting is quite balanced.

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 2:54 utc | 114

Pentagon Investigates More Social-Media Posts Purporting to Include Secret U.S. Documents
Documents include details on Ukrainian forces, U.S. arms provided to Ukraine

Sinister thought – what if the real purpose of this op is to entrap as many high profile alt media bloggers say, Twitter and YouTube legends and give them the Assange treatment?
We know how ruthless these sobs are and how quickly big tech will rollover once subpoenaed

Posted by: Chris | Apr 8 2023 2:57 utc | 115

West of England Andy | Apr 7 2023 19:26 utc | 23
German payback?
I’m inclined to yep.
The first time the docs appeared on the internet was on 4chan /pol
[politically incorrect] message board during an argument on casualties.
An “anon” posted the docs to win the argument.
About 2hours later a “revised” set appeared in multiple threads.
I understand this is called “well poisoning”.
And then 4chan, Reddit, twitter, telegram were flooded with (one can surmise) Langley and Brigade 77 (UK) “shills” screeching the docs were “fake”, , “obviously photoshops” etc.
And the muddying of the waters has worked because there’s “confusion” as to which set is “real”, if any.
Q: Why would a second set of docs appear so soon after the first?
A: To obfuscate the Ukrainian losses, of course.
And we know it’s Langley with the obfuscation because:
§ Russia is shelling its own troops at the ZapNPP &
§ Russia blew up its own NS2 pipeline &
& Taaahdaah:
§ Russia has leaked the USNATO Grand Spring Offensive Plan to… confuse Russia……

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2023 3:06 utc | 116

Looks like there are TWO LEAKS–one which centers on Ukraine but the 2nd supposedly contains a tranche of 100 documents related to Middle East and other topics that exposes USA and 5 Eyes. I don’t think either is True–FBI/CIA/DoD wouldn’t be asking Elon–they’d be telling him.

Posted by: Dulles_Did_Dallas | Apr 8 2023 3:07 utc | 117

@unimperator | Apr 7 2023 21:19 utc | 55
“What would you do?”
Ukraine’s only path to avoiding total defeat, baring direct negotiations, is to get NATO troops actively and openly involved. At this point, a nuclear, biological, or chemical false flag might be the only way of doing that.

Posted by: barstool | Apr 8 2023 3:08 utc | 118

Don’t get too excited by oil prices going up. Not going to hurt the US that much. Gas, coal, and uranium are still cheap. Europe is also prepared to do anything to keep electricity prices low. There were times in the winter when spot electricity prices in Europe were $0.00 in some markets. Subsidies in the European electricity market were an attempt to hold down gas prices. Almost all commodities are cheaper now compared to 12 months ago. Out of all the major Euro economies, only Germany is paying nearly double electricity price compared to last year. China is using bilateral trade to offset its dollar exposure. I just wrote about it today when replying to a comment Simplicius76 asked me. https://aaronlee.substack.com/p/the-russian-financial-superpower I expect commodity prices to burn Europe the most. Declining global trade will burn China. Russia will become the dominant partner in its relationship with China. After the war is over, Russian arms will be so cheap and battle tested, China will be forced to buy them, worsening their trade deficit with Russia…

Posted by: Aaron Lee | Apr 8 2023 3:10 utc | 119

Latest vid on Chinese social media showed Nazis using airburst artillery rounds that send a rain of ball bearings dropping large numbers of Wagners at once.
Months back I wrote in a comment that Russia should use treetop airburst rounds but obviously the Russians are too humane to do this as there is no report on them doing this. Just regular HE rounds.

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 3:12 utc | 120

Surferket | Apr 8 2023 2:54 utc | 115
A few questions for you then about the Chinese reporting on casualties and the Nordstream.
What are the KIA totals being reported for Ukrainian AF and Russian AF?
What is the prevailing concensus being reported on who blew up the Nordstream pipelines?
Thanks

Posted by: Jerr | Apr 8 2023 3:20 utc | 121

Posted by: Aaron Lee | Apr 8 2023 3:10 utc | 120
Nope. China is pushing on infrastructure buildup, high tech buildup, consumer spending. This is to offset decrease global exports. This was already stated in state planning since last year’s Big 2 meetings.
China has for decades turned to internal growth and rely less on exports.
Re arms, you’re joking of course. You think China will throw away decades of hard earned self reliance on arms? Did you know last year I saw a video on China’s state military channel CCTV7 on PLA soldiers training with 3D printed DIY FPV suicide srones? And FPV is only a catch word now in this SMO because the Nazis are using it.
And similarly last year on same channel was a vid of PLA using EM railguns that’s the saize of their previous assault rifles.
The Chinese are pioneering weapon systems before the west has gone beyong drawing boards.

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 3:23 utc | 122

psychohistorian @110–Thanks for your reply. Interesting essay about the nature of contemporary Europe, “The Imminent Collapse of Eurofascism”, which won’t surpise many barflies:

If Eurofascism with its features mentioned so far, lags behind its predecessors, two of its worst features make it truly full-blooded fascism. The propaganda machinery of the EU is not only worthy of Joseph Goebbels, but it is safe to say that as a means of collective indoctrination it has surpassed the achievements of its great guru. European mass media like to brag about their supposed independence and objectivity, but they are managed from only a few centers of power. Euro-propaganda completely denies the necessity of dialogue and debate, and instead the final conclusions of various experts covering all possible aspects of social and political life are brutally imposed on the public. Therefore, the only thing left for Europeans is to make an effort to believe in what they are asked to accept as indisputable truth.
In the EU, criticism and free thought are not only becoming more and more unwelcome, but are increasingly being qualified as a punishable offense. At the end of the indictment, since the European Union is inseparable from NATO, militarism is a crime that gives Eurofascism a character that completely exposes it. If we were to compare Europe under Hitler’s occupation with today’s Euro-Atlantic one, we would see a huge number of similarities, including the effort to conquer Lebensraum in the East by military force. Among the differences, the most striking are these three: Eurofascism is much softer in relation to its citizens; it is not in conflict with the Anglo-Saxon elites but is subordinate to them; and finally, Europe is no longer governed from Berlin but from Washington and London, which could mean that the Russians will this time have to liberate not only continental capitals but also overseas ones.
The ever self-satisfied European elites are greatly mistaken if they think that the terrifying ramparts of repressive police systems they have erected between themselves and increasingly disaffected Europeans will be able to protect them from the growing anger of ordinary people for much longer. March started very badly for the Euro-Atlanticists. First, several tens of thousands of angry but dignified and proud citizens of Slovakia gathered in Bratislava for the “March for Peace,” where they resolutely demanded that their country withdraw from NATO as a matter of urgency, stop arming Ukraine, and instead establish the best possible relations with Russia. “Anglo-Saxon fascists out!”; “Slovaks and Russians — brothers forever!” shouted the demonstrators in the streets of the Slovak capital and cheered for Russia and Putin.

The author relates some other protest actions then later notes that all Europe must bond together to break the Eurofascism that oppresses them all. Overall, a good clear exposition of Europe’s crisis.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 8 2023 3:26 utc | 123

Here’s a report on the non lethal police version of the Chinese EM gun. They already have the military lethal version.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202304/1288501.shtml

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 3:26 utc | 124

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🤚 Military Expert Boris Rozhin on the Situation in the #Artyomovsk (#Bakhmut) Sector as of 19.19 Moscow time on 7 April 2023⚡️
🔹North:
▪️ Fighting continues on the outskirts of #Bogdanovka, Orekhovo-Vasilyevka and north of #Khromovo. The settlements are still held by the AFU, which allows them to use the dirt road south of the #Khromovo – Chasov Yar road. Travelling along this road also entails a risk of losses – up to 50 vehicles of various equipment have already been destroyed or damaged there in recent weeks.
📌 The AFU has no other alternative. They are unable to push our troops back from the road through #Khromovo, there are not enough forces and the weather interferes.
🔹South:
▪️ Positional battles continue in the #Krasnoye area and west of #Kleshchiyevka and #Kurdyumovka. No major changes there yet.
📌 Our guys can’t get into #Krasnoye or get on the highway to the west of it. The enemy is unable to push our troops away from #Krasnoye and unblock the Chas-Yar – #Krasnoye road.
🔹City:
➖ PMC Wagner continues to advance successfully in the city blocks, pushing the enemy in all directions, liberating more houses, streets and whole neighbourhoods every day.
➖ The enemy continues to cling to the western neighbourhoods of #Artyomovsk. Despite fierce resistance, the AFU are unable to stop the advance of the PMCs. While retreating, the enemy is increasingly blowing up houses in order to hinder Wagner’s advance.
➖ The fighting has now shifted to the railway station, the stadium and the blocks south of the AZOM industrial zone.
📜 Boris Rozhin specially for Voenkor Kotenok Z Channel
🔸By Nightfall, reports were mounting that the AFU in #Artyomovsk had become very tired after losing positions near the city centre and in the southwestern districts of #Artyomovsk, and had allegedly even tried to withdraw some units towards Chazov Yar. So far there is no official confirmation or photo/video footage to back this up, apart from a few panicked reports from the Ukrainian military saying that “everything is bad in #Bakhmut”.
📌 I assume the situation on this matter will become clearer by morning, but the fact that the agony of the #Bakhmut garrison is on its way was already obvious on 2 April, when PMC-Wagner assault squads took the city centre.

https://t.me/sitreports/6874

Posted by: Down South | Apr 8 2023 3:32 utc | 125

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 7 Apr 2023⚡️
🔹#Russia’s Border Areas:
▪️ In the #Kursk region, air defence assets intercepted a Ukrainian drone that was collecting information on Russian troop locations.
▪️ In the #Belgorod region, the AFU terrorists fired a mortar on the village of #Rzhavets. Civilian buildings have been damaged without casualties.
🔹#Starobelsk (#Svatovo) Direction:
▪️ In the #Kupyansk sector there are no significant changes. Both sides are engaged in artillery duels and mutual reconnaissance.
➖ Ukrainian formations are strengthening their positions on the right bank of the #Oskol River.
▪️ In the #Liman sector the positional battles continue in the #Serebryanskoye forestry and near Balka Zhuravka.
🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction (MAP):
▪️ Russian troops, supported by artillery, continue to storm enemy positions in Orekhovo-Vasilyevka.
▪️ In the northern outskirts of #Bakhmut, units of the Wagner PMC liberated several buildings on Zelenaya Street near Roses Alley.
➖ To the south, Russian servicemen entrenched themselves north of Kovalskaya Street along the railway.
➖ In the centre, the “Wagnerians” have taken control of the Metallurg stadium and have also advanced significantly towards the police station.
▪️ Southwest of the city, fighting continues near the highway to #Konstantinovka and on the outskirts of #Krasnoye.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ In the #Avdeyevka sector, units of the RF Armed Forces continue the operation to encircle the enemy grouping from the north and south.
➖ The Ukrainian command is moving additional forces to the frontline in preparation for an counterattack attempt.
▪️ In #Maryinka, Russian servicemen, supported by tanks and aircraft, storm enemy positions on Druzhba Avenue.
▪️ Ukrainian terror formations fired barrel and rocket artillery at populated areas of the Donetsk agglomeration.
➖ In the capital of the DPR, a local market and civilian facilities in Voroshilovsky district have been hit, among others. One woman was killed and 16 people wounded.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ The situation in this section of the front has not changed. Both sides are conducting reconnaissance activities and exchanging artillery strikes.
▪️ In preparation for a new counterattack attempt, the enemy is moving reserves to the #Orekhov sector.
▪️ in #Zaporozhye region, Ukrainian terrorist formations shelled civilian infrastructure in the town of #Pologi with artillery (south of #Gulyaypole).
➖ The strikes damaged a sports school, a cultural centre, an outpatient clinic and a baby home. According to preliminary information, there were no casualties.
🔹#Kherson Direction on #SouthFront:
▪️ Artillery duels continue along the entire line of contact. Russian forces hit AFU concentrations in #Kherson, #Berislav and #Ochakov.
➖ In turn, the enemy terrorists shelled civilian infrastructure on the left bank of #Kherson region. Novaya Kakhovka, #Tavriysk and #Sagi have been hit, among others.
🔸Political Events:
▪️ The first service of the PCU was held in the Cathedral of the Assumption of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra. At the same time, the Verkhovna Rada is preparing a resolution to terminate the UOC MP’s lease of the Pochayevskaya Lavra.
▪️ Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has issued a decree on the creation of 19 military administrations in #Zaporozhye region, 12 of which are located on the territory controlled by the RF Armed Forces.

https://t.me/sitreports/6877

Posted by: Down South | Apr 8 2023 3:33 utc | 126

@Babel-17 | Apr 7 2023 21:45 utc | 58
When SMO started only two regions and Crimea had held referendums and declared their independence from Ukraine. Soon after SMO started, two more followed. As Russia continues advancing across Ukraine, many more regions might do the same.
In half of the regions of Ukraine, the majority of people spoke Russian as their first language, worshiped in Russian Orthodox Church, and celebrated Russian holidays. Russian was an official language in Ukraine, even government interactions were mostly in Russian in those areas. Many regions, if liberated, would probably join Russia. (Rebuilding them could be very costly.)
Many in other regions might join Russia, too. Others might join adjacent countries. If a Ukraine country survives, it might be very small
!
C Wanted to write this in FORTRAN. Been too long.

Posted by: barstool | Apr 8 2023 3:34 utc | 127

Posted by: Jerr | Apr 8 2023 3:20 utc | 122
The Chinese social media don’t do analysing on total figures, just show vids from both sides. On these western boards we don’t see the Nazi vids showing the Wagners getting slaughtered. There was one showing a Wagner putting his rifle to his head and killing himself. His fellow soldiers in the sane trench are already dead from grenades dropped from Nazi drone.
The analysing is on military channel CCTV7 talking heads talk shows but usually talk about weapon sysyems and effectiveness.
BTW, Chinese state tv had for past 4 years running many tv series and movie shows on the Korean War against US. For decades this was forbiddened due to “friendliness” with US. But no more. The Chinese people are being prepared to have a Sino US war coming. Same for real reports on US society. Once upon a time China don’t show the real shitty situation in US of poverty, drugs, killings of blacks. Now it’s all out there on the screen.

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 3:35 utc | 128

Bloomberg
So newsworthy and so much integrity:

Bloomberg: The power of the old Ukrainian oligarchs is weakening, but new ones may appear who will earn on international aid to Ukraine after the war
“There are fears that new oligarchs may emerge who could benefit from the assistance that will be provided for reconstruction in the post-war period. To avoid this scenario, tight control by donor countries is needed. Much will depend on the decisions taken by Zelensky, the EU, the US and international organizations such as the IMF,” the publication says.

▪️”Ukraine needs to attract the oligarchs who started playing by the rules so that they stay in the country and invest in the economy, and not withdraw their money abroad.”

These mongrel ‘news’ reporters should tell that to the USA oligarchs – ROFL.
source: https://t.me/intelslava/46674

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 8 2023 3:36 utc | 129

👉👉👉 Ukrainian Post
Bakhmut. There is no good news.
The enemy is pressing in three directions, including the center of the city, which is almost lost.
We can no longer withdraw forces with cohesion, all access roads are in danger.

https://t.me/sitreports/6882

👉👉👉 Ukrainian post
Bakhmut. Briefly.
Difficult fighting in the city center, near the railroad. East of it, there are almost no our positions left, but the fight for them is still ongoing.
The Defense Forces are repelling attacks in the area of Korsunska Street. The enemy is making minor progress.
Fighting continues in other sectors in the southwestern parts of the city. Unfortunately, the enemy is making progress.
In the area of Ivanivske-Khromove, the occupants are trying to resume massive assaults. So far, we have managed to repel them.
The Defense Forces are facing another hellish night in Bakhmut.
The city is now the hottest spot on the planet. It is the tenth month of Bakhmut’s defense and it is holding!

https://t.me/sitreports/6883

Posted by: Down South | Apr 8 2023 3:36 utc | 130

@52, natokraine, just remember, sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. FWIW, I feel that if NATO/US thought they could take Russia, they would’ve tried using their own troops instead of this bullshit proxy skirmish. Mostly, they wage war on relatively defenseless nations. Or on their own populace.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 8 2023 3:36 utc | 131

Boris Rozhin:
1. Those who are waiting for night sensations from Artemovsk can safely go to sleep. They won’t take it until morning. 😀
2. There is still enough work in the city, even if the enemy has begun to withdraw. As in the case of Soledar, with a hypothetical collapse of the defense, not everyone will be able to retreat.
3. The clearing of Artemovsk alone will take several days.
4. It is worth waiting for Prigozhin’s statements about the capture of the city. “Wagner” liberated Artemovsk, and he should announce it. Well, Prigozhin himself said more than once that it’s not worth driving horses – as soon as they take it, they will immediately report it.
5. On the day of the official liberation of the city, Bakhmut de jure and de facto will again become Artemovsk. At least until the end of the war, and there the locals themselves will decide what to call it.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40843

Posted by: Down South | Apr 8 2023 3:39 utc | 132

🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Battle for Bakhmut: the enemy is not going anywhere, Wagner PMCs are pushing the AFU meter by meter
▪️ In the night, there were many reports that Bakhmut is ours, mostly from canals that are infinitely far from the front line. In fact, heavy fighting continues in the city.
▪️ “About the ‘withdrawal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine behind the railway’ in Artyomovsk (Bakhmut): as of 16:00, they did not leave anywhere. They don’t “leave” at all. Every night, the AFU is driving more and more meat into position. The Armed Forces of Ukraine still control one block of skyscrapers in the west of Vasily Pershin Street, ”corr. rt.com Murado.
▪️ “To say that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being withdrawn will be insulting to our guys.
▪️ They leave only when Wagner PMC stormtroopers break into their entrance or go around the yard. And more and more just run, leaving everything.
▪️ The spirit of the enemy is on the verge of exhaustion, but has not yet been broken. Each promotion in the city is given by the work and perseverance of the “musicians”.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40845

Posted by: Down South | Apr 8 2023 3:42 utc | 133

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 3:23 utc | 123
This is that kind of low end analysis that just repeats what other people have said without knowing the facts. To quote the Russian MOD, I ‘eliminated’ your argument. It’s ‘destroyed.’
China is dead meat. You think the Japanese lost decades were bad (actually you probably know nothing about them), you haven’t seen anything yet.

Posted by: Aaron Lee | Apr 8 2023 3:42 utc | 134

Posted by: Aaron Lee | Apr 8 2023 3:42 utc | 135
You are clearly a China Hater.
I report what I’ve seen on Chinese state tv. You have only your opinions.
Btw, I don’t even bother to read the Russian daily MOD reports.

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 3:47 utc | 135

So they have brought the good news from Artyomovsk to Donetsk.
It was a long ride but won well and by all the team.
I guess when the rain ceases in a few weeks and the fine black soil dries in a few weeks more, the nazis will talk about a spring offensive for some time next summer or autumn or later.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 8 2023 3:48 utc | 136

Two docs went to war…
Which one knows the score?
Here’s a video of the difference between the two:
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1680867023595947.webm
I research in sewers, so you don’t have to:
Thread. https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/422407070#p422410051
4chan /pol claims this is the original post:
“as of March 1st Russia has lost 35.5k to 43.5k and Ukraine less than half that
Outnumbering Ukies on all front and Russia is only able to make marginal gains
Its fucking over Zizters”
^ Posted by a US flag: 04/06/23(Thu)01:33:13 No.422410051
Reply post:
“Delete this now please. We will be able to find you from the crease pattern.”
US flag 04/06/23(Thu)01:49:34 No.422411674
Reply: US flag 04/06/23(Thu)01:50:12 No.422411747
No. With a second pic of a map
Aric Toler=
“Put this dude in the Posters Hall of Fame if he’s sent to a CIA black site in Poland for posting these on 4chan to win an argument against pepe and anime avatars anons
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1644152352113401861
“Original vs. edited versions of KIA counts
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1644139100407054336
“The earliest versions of the unedited leak I can find — on 4chan, of all places — also has an additional map of the situation in Bakhmut that isn’t in the copies being spread on Russian TG channels.
“The guy was posting these docs to win an argument against other anons on 4chan.
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1644148253426868224
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1644148253426868224

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 8 2023 3:59 utc | 137

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 3:47 utc | 136
Aron Lee, been residing on fringes of lunacy for quite a while

Posted by: Grishka | Apr 8 2023 4:12 utc | 138

How about another eclectic mix? “Shot in the Dark” Ozzie Osborne, “Crossfire”, Stevie Ray Vaughn, “No Quarter”,”Kashmir”, Led Zeppelin, and finally Yes, “Roundabout, South Side of the Sky”.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 8 2023 4:15 utc | 139

Here’s another good news.
💥🇷🇺Elon Musk took down the ban on Russian accounts of government agencies and media outlets on Twitter
The social network is once again searching for the accounts of Russian government agencies, including the pages of the Kremlin, the Russian Foreign Ministry, and Russian embassies abroad.
https://t.me/infodefENGLAND/5590

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 4:15 utc | 140

And in honor of b and Germany, The Scorpions,”Rock You like a Hurricane, Blackout, No One like You and Winds of Change.” Peace. Gonna get in the cups. Check you later.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 8 2023 4:35 utc | 141

One more, before I check out. “Conquistador”, Procol Harem. Live with the Edmonton philharmonic orchestra.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 8 2023 4:57 utc | 142

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 1:59 utc | 104
Re. MOD reports and AFVs which you said not mentioned. Every day there could be several tanks and 3-4x more AFVs or IFVs mentioned as clobbered.
I think Ukraine is sending more or less zero vehicles to anywhere else on the front than around Zaporozhye. If you look at the the Deployment map, it shows 13 mech brigades west of Dnipro, near Nikolaev and NE Dnipro, which could constitute the assumed Nato offensive fists.
They could have anywhere between 200-400 tanks (mostly T-55 and smaller portion Leopard types) and up to 1000 AFVs if they are full strength. But everything just guessing. We know for sure that Nato spared nothing, they underreport the amount of stuff and general level of involvement all the time.
The real assesment can only be made through satellite and drone recon. Obviously, you would want to hide as many vehicle and equipment as possible in hangars and buildings till the last moment.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2023 5:20 utc | 143

Bakhmut continues getting squeezed into smaller portions, meaning higher density of ukronato troops per m2. That in itself makes the casualty curve from artillery go up. They can no longer leave in cohesion, unless in most western part of city.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2023 5:35 utc | 144

John Brunner’s Stand on Zanzibar, an excellent SF novel.
+++++++++++++++
Ah yes, I remember the “muckers”

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Apr 8 2023 5:44 utc | 145

Johnnycomelately:
You are confusing two different types of bomb, both developed in Germany in WW2, and since then much refined. They are the glide bomb (Fritz), an air-launched, unpowered but radio-guided bomb generally used against naval targets; and the V-1 flying bomb, a ground-launched, unguided, pulse-jet powered missile widely used against English civilian targets in the last year of the war. The former has morphed into what are now called smart bombs, and the latter into cruise missiles. Both types have improved greatly in range, accuracy and lethality mainly due to improvements in electronic guidance systems. It is true that the Russians have not made much use of smart bombs until now, but that is because (in Syria for example) their approach has been to achieve the same result with “dumb bombs” by precise vectoring of the delivery aircraft onto the target. Obviously that approach works best where there is a lack of air defences, which is not the case in the Ukraine. Putting a pulse jet motor and wings on an ordinary bomb would merely be re-creating the V-1, which even in 1944-45 was fairly easily shot down. Adding a guidance system to it only turns it into a basic cruise missile, of which the Russians already have several very advanced types that are being used to devastate Ukrainian infrastructure targets. The glide bomb is therefore essentially a short-range, powerful and cheap weapon whose cost-effectiveness would hardly be enhanced by adding a motor to it.

Posted by: Bernard Davis | Apr 8 2023 6:14 utc | 146

If these leaked documents are authentic and undoctored, then NATO troops are fed poor intelligence.

Posted by: Passerby | Apr 8 2023 6:39 utc | 147

Posted by: Aaron Lee | Apr 8 2023 3:10 utc | 120
In your article, you claim that:
“Does it matter that Russia graduates more scientists and engineers when America has eight times the Russian technical workforce? Extrapolating out from our last good year of data (2015) (https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=PERS_SCIENCE) Russia probably has 870k scientists & engineers.
That is false:
According to the statistical data for the average annual number of employees by type of economic activity, there were 2,731,700 employees in scientific and technical activities in 2021, of which, 789,400 dedicated exclusively to research and development.
https://rosstat-gov-ru.translate.goog/labour_force?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=es&_x_tr_pto=wapp (See ‘Workforce Balance’, it’s a ‘xls file’, cells A21:A22, and the corresponding data)
If the premise is false (evidence of poor research), the rest does not deserve any consideration: it is only baseless speculation.
A salute

Posted by: Lalita | Apr 8 2023 6:44 utc | 148

Lula basically said Russia can’t achieve all their goals, must accept a deal. Should give back Donbass and if they’re nice, he lets them keep Crimea. He’s going to China to propose his piss plan to Xi

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2023 6:44 utc | 149

Posted by: Aaron Lee | Apr 8 2023 3:10 utc | 120
In your article, you claim that:
“Does it matter that Russia graduates more scientists and engineers when America has eight times the Russian technical workforce? Extrapolating out from our last good year of data (2015) (https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=PERS_SCIENCE) Russia probably has 870k scientists & engineers. ”
That’s is false:
According to the statistical data for the average annual number of employees by type of economic activity, there were 2,731,700 employees in scientific and technical activities in 2021, of which, 789,400 dedicated exclusively to research and development.
https://rosstat-gov-ru.translate.goog/labour_force?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=es&_x_tr_pto=wapp (See ‘Workforce Balance’, it’s a ‘xls file’, cells A21:A22, and the corresponding data)
If the premise is false (evidence of poor research), the rest does not deserve any consideration: it is only baseless speculation.
A salute

Posted by: Lulita | Apr 8 2023 6:52 utc | 150

Twitter thread on Ukraine’s AD from recently leaked documents.

Amongst the leaks included a map plan of Ukraine’s air defences and “consolidated air defence” network planned to protect Front line forces, critical infrastructure and population centres.
This was only available to UA / FiveEyes / NATO authorised personnel.
According to the report:
SA-10 (S-300) and SA-11 (BUK) comprise of 89% of Ukraine’s AD medium/high range.
BUK will be depleted by 31st March 2023
S-300 Will be depleted by 02 May 2023.
It goes on to note the limited to no Ukrainian air-air defence (A2AD).
Also mentions Western AD systems will have a limited capability and will be unable to match the Russian volume and CANNOT be layered.
IRIS-T and NASAM also running out of ammo?

https://twitter.com/War_cube_/status/1644390191627370498

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2023 6:54 utc | 151

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1r_Hb6gmsY
Macgregor interview on the current situation in Ukraine. Ritter has a couple of new interviews up too. encouraging news.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 8 2023 7:21 utc | 152

Just watch this;
https://globalsouth.co/2023/04/06/the-russian-arria-formula-meeting-that-was-prohibited-on-untv/
It is about kids from Ukraine.

Posted by: stranger | Apr 8 2023 7:30 utc | 153

“No one needs Ukraine, so it will disappear, and it will not be on the planet.” — Deputy chairman of the Russian security Council and Former president of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40871

Dmitry Medvedev explains why Ukraine will disappear: 
1. Europe doesn’t need Ukraine. The massive support for the Nazi regime at the behest of an American mentor has already given Europeans a real financial and political hell. Flows of brazen beggars—Ukrainian migrants and their accommodation at the expense of their own citizens, skyrocketing inflation, huge heating and electricity bills, rotting European businesses, unprofitable Russian sanctions—all this has already led to explosions of discontent in both Western and Eastern Europe. And for what? for the sake of Banderites’ destroyed-Ukraine, which even the most arrogant Poles do not perceive as a normal country and periodically throw in the theme of the annexation of the western regions. Ahead of them looms the prospect of finally putting the young Ukrainian blood-sucking parasites on the arthritis-ridden neck of the withering European Union. This will be the final sunset of a formerly regal but impoverished Europe. 
2. Ukraine is not needed by the United States. Yes, the military and sanctions campaigns are the PR motivation for the political babblers, who signed their own impotence and feeble-mindedness long ago. Real senile people like Biden, whose place is not at the head of a huge power but on the grass, surrounded by their relatives with their mouths open with dementia, Ordinary Americans have no idea at all what “Ukraine” is or where it is located. Most of them can’t even show this “country” on a map. Why should they suffer such inconvenience for the sake of some obscure part of Russia?
3. Africa and Latin America don’t need Ukraine. After all, the hundreds of billions that the U.S. spends on pointless fights somewhere in Ukraine would be enough for many programs aimed at the social development of Latin American and African states.
4. Asia doesn’t need Ukraine. On the Russian example, they see how the color technologies for the elimination of the largest competing powers are practiced. They understand what scenario the collective West, led by America, has prepared for them in the event of disobedience. “Help us deal with Russia, and then we’ll come to you soon,” say the pissed-off Western leaders. Giant countries like India, China, and other APAC nations have enough problems with economic recovery after the pandemic without the drug clowns and their whining for help.
5. Russia does not need Ukraine. After all, Ukraine is not a country at all, but a cloud in its pants. a tattered, shabby, greasy, and totally rotten patchwork quilt. The new Malorossia of the 1991 model—artificially sliced territories, many of which are originally Russian and were accidentally seized in the XX century. Millions of our compatriots live here; they have been bullied for years by the Nazi Kiev regime. It is them that we defend in a special military operation, ruthlessly destroying the enemy. But the pieces of Russia called Ukraine within its 1991 borders are simply a misunderstanding, spawned by the collapse of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. And that’s why we don’t need a collapsed and destroyed Ukraine. We need Greater Great Russia. 
6. Finally, a Ukraine led by Nazi leadership doesn’t need its citizens. That is why, out of 45 million, there are a little more than 20 million left. That’s why the rest want to go anywhere—to hateful Poland, to the EU, to NATO—and they want to become the 52nd state of America. If only to join Antarctica with penguins. The only thing they want is to be quiet and well fed. Because of the criminal ambitions of the group in power, Ukrainians are forced to live in constant anxiety and fear. forced to live in poverty, abandoning their homes and households. forced to wander in search of a better life across countries and continents. all for a murky European perspective. Or, more precisely, so that the harlequin in green tights and his band of thieving fascist clowns would save stolen Western money in their offshore accounts. Why do (https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40871) ordinary (https://t.me/dimsmirnov175/46406) Ukrainians need this? 
No one on the planet needs such a Ukraine. 
That’s exactly why it won’t exist.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40873

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 8 2023 7:47 utc | 154

TBH, the leak seems like it’s just supposed to take attention away from something else. Like Bakhmut. It’s possible that it is directed at the audience in US and EU. The Russian MOD doesn’t need these leaks, of course, they will still project the plans on what they see on satellite and drone recon and other signal intelligence data.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2023 8:02 utc | 155

#MoldavianCase
The resident insider says that the visit of the head of British intelligence to Chisinau-Odessa is connected with the upcoming offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
According to our information, in Chisinau, the British discussed the issue of suppressing / discrediting / blocking protest moods, which partially prevent Maia Sandu from starting the “Transnistrian case”, in simple words, unfreezing the military conflict.
They also discussed the issue of preparing for a military/political/social provocation, which would help unfreeze the Transnistrian case. The head of MI6 Moore will discuss this issue in Ukraine.
On March 12, we found out that Zelensky was trying to convince Maya to start the Transnistrian case in sync with the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. By the way, colleagues confirmed this insider, pointing out that Sandu’s recent trip to Bucha was only a pretext, and the issue of provocation with the PMR was discussed there.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15117

Posted by: Down South | Apr 8 2023 8:06 utc | 156

@unimperator | Apr 8 2023 8:02 utc | 155
I think you are correct, such media events are almost always distractions from something important:

Readovka: ❗️Artyomovsk passes under the control of Russia – the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to break through to the defense line near Chasov Yar
Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) fell, the city passes under the complete control of the Wagner PMC fighters. A source from Readovka reports that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are actively destroying abandoned equipment, part of the personnel retreats to the defense line to Chasov Yar, but suffers heavy losses.
Artillery is active at the moment. The head of the “orchestra” Yevgeny Prigozhin has not yet confirmed the information about complete control over the city. Some of the APU fighters still remain within the settlement and are trying to get to the western positions.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/53417

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 8 2023 8:07 utc | 157

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 8 2023 3:47 utc | 136
Great posts, thank you for contributing your perspective.

Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 8 2023 8:29 utc | 158

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2023 6:54 utc | 151
A good strategy is designed to tick multiple boxes, the Russian missile offensive not only targeted critical infrastructure affecting Ukrainian infrastructure, theatre-wide, it also served as a remote SEAD campaign. The mass use of glide munitions, in this phase of the SMO, attests to it effectiveness. Talk about river crossings and multiple brigade sized armoured thrusts, when an opponent has air supremacy, are just that talk.
Post WW2 studies showed that with even a .08 PK and facing heavy ground fire, with a similar PK, ground-attack aircraft had been highly effective weapons platforms; imagine therefore what impact aerial platforms will have, using weapons with PK’s an order of magnitude higher, against an ADS that is significantly less effective.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 8 2023 8:36 utc | 159

Medvedev is wrong as usual.
1 – EU needs Ukr for many things. For example electricity exports from Ukr to EU are working again. Didn’t you know? Read the news then. If even less people live in Ukr, a lot more electricity and food and gas can be taken for free by EU while Ukr can work as slaves in EU. They don’t need it to be very populated, but they need it to exist.
2 – Sure it is needed, it’s basically a US state. Both D and R used it even before 2014. Biolabs are a different hobby, as well as weapon testing.
4 – Xi accepted only security guarantees for Russia, he wants Ukr as much as Biden, with no change in its borders. It’s good market and feeds Xi’s imagination that he’s a world leader, one who decides things on the planet. Let’s ignore he can’t and won’t keep Taiwan, he already fights to protect Ukr territorial integrity. Even puppet Lula, BRICS “partner”, said yesterday that Russia should give back Donbass: “Neither Ukraine nor Russia can achieve every goal they have set in their conflict. Crimea, perhaps, is not even worth discussing, but the issue with other territories should be rethought.”

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2023 9:04 utc | 160

Very informative post. Thanks for sharing. Found more information on the portal https://myc.news/ .

Posted by: myc.news | Apr 8 2023 9:29 utc | 161

@ Posted by: Aaron Lee | Apr 8 2023 3:10 utc | 120
It is a huge article to absorb, along with all those links in it. It is worth the time. Very educational indeed. However, taking a title as a summary, there is a void in the article in relation to trade imbalances. Regardless the fact that Russia was running a trade surplus – it was loosing it’s own wealth through those trade imbalances. Running a trade surplus can be as deadly as running a trade deficit, yet through other means. What Russia could gain through the use of all those tokens, that were exchanged in return to its real goods and commodities, while being sanctioned out of the market ? I do believe this is the major wake up call and final closure to Chimarika. Other ways your article is very persuading. Will China print to oblivion ? Who knows ? Will China start all over again and learn from mistakes ? More likely. The same applies to Russia

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Apr 8 2023 9:36 utc | 162

The Russians are seeing the “leaked” documents as part of the information support for the coming “offensive”. On “60 minutes”, one of the most watched Russian political talk show, journalist A. Medvedev lays it out very clearly, that the aim of the release is to influence the decision makers as much as possible, but more importantly to prepare psychologically the Russian populace to expect something larger and more sinister.
On one of the Solovyov affiliated channels (Evstafiev/Vityazeva) I read this interesting hypothesis about the coming operation. That the offensive will be aimed deep into Russian territory as much as possible – Moscow, Saint Petersburg, the border areas. The ukrops and their AS minders know this to be one of the weak points of the Russian society regarding the war.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 8 2023 9:46 utc | 163

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2023 9:04 utc | 160
You really do have singular opinions……..do you ever let reality encroach ?
https://www.energy.gov/articles/ukraine-launches-electricity-exports-european-union-support-us-department-energy
https://civil-protection-humanitarian-aid.ec.europa.eu/news-stories/news/standing-ukrainian-people-eu-delivers-further-energy-support-winter-2022-12-13_en
https://ceenergynews.com/ukraines-energy-future/ukraine-halts-electricity-exports-to-europe-due-to-russian-missile-strikes/
Ukraine is not even a reliable transit state for gas piped into Europe and never has been since collapse of USSR………..
This is simply US Propaganda that US taxpayers will build an electric grid to ship Ukrainian energy supplies to Romania as the EU sends mobile generators to Ukraine !
https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukraine-has-maintained-its-energy-supply-despite-the-war/a-65071162
and burying transformers hundreds of metres deep will protect them from Kinshal ?
Do let NATO know where these safe bunkers are so they can hide there

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 8 2023 10:00 utc | 164

@ myc.news | Apr 8 2023 9:29 utc | 161
Thank you so very much. /s Er, what post ? More info ? Ahhh …
myc.news = The news portal “Matrix of Ukrainian Freedom“, Kiev, Banderastan.
@ Boo | Apr 8 2023 9:46 utc | 163

That the offensive will be aimed deep into Russian territory as much as possible – Moscow, Saint Petersburg …

Fantastical re balance of forces & capabilities. LOL. Oh come on. The classified documents are authentic. Russkies will of course leverage & exploit the leaks opportunity to their own internal political & propaganda advantage. Foolish not to do so. Who wouldn’t …

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 10:03 utc | 165

Posted by: Boo | Apr 8 2023 9:46 utc | 163
The deployment map shows one mech brigade in Sumy and one mech battalion in Chernigov. There’s simply nothing there that could attack toward Moscow or St. Petersburg, logistical nightmare too. Some kind of provocation toward Belgorod and border villages is possible, perhaps.
Obviously the kitchen sink is located around Dnipro and Nikolaev, with 13 mech brigades shown on the map.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2023 10:22 utc | 166

Posted by: Boo | Apr 8 2023 9:46 utc | 163
Tis barely possible with a whole coalition of the willing behind the ukies. Let’s tackle each destination:
– Moscow? Out of the question even if NATO + US try, they would need to decimate the entire Moscow Military District before that, assuming they somehow get past the new oblasts in the 1st place.
– St. Petersburg means, from Finland’s border? I bet on Helsinki being inflamed first, if the Finns allow their borders and airspace being used. Same logic as if a NATO plane tries to strike at RU forces in 404 land, but amplified when it involves Russian land.
– Border areas? Already happened and is happening anyway with these pinpricks attacks. This is the best that could be mustered, as any large groupings of forces and ammos in Eastern 404 get spotted for arty/drones/missiles.

Posted by: _newbie_ | Apr 8 2023 10:27 utc | 167

Enlightening, brief aerial view of only a short section of the Muddy Track of Death (MToD), the fragile tenuous MSR for the trapped AFU remnants in Bahkmut, under RF Fire Control. Those AFU that manage to attempt to retreat from Bahkmut, will have to do so on foot, over muddy open fields & the MToD. TG, videoclip, 34s.
& Translated, Interception (Z), TG, (Map), dry run for further attempted terror attacks within RF territory:

On the attempt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to strike at Feodosia in the Crimea from the Grom-2 OTRK
Today, at about 11.05, Ukrainian formations tried to strike another blow at the Crimean peninsula from the Grom-2 operational-tactical missile system from the positional area at the Alibai/Tuzla training ground..
The missile flew at an altitude of more than 15 kilometers and was shot down by the S-300 air defense system in the vicinity of Feodosia. Smoke in the photo is caused by the fall of fragments after its defeat in the air. According to the head of the Crimea, Sergei Aksyonov, there were no victims as a result of the attack.
🔻Now the Armed Forces of Ukraine are intensifying preparations for the offensive, which may begin within the next two weeks. Against this background, the number of launches of missiles and UAVs at Russian facilities in kherson, Zaporozhye regions and the Republic of Crimea from THE HIMARS MLRS and the Grom-2 OTRK has been increased.
The newest OTRK is still being tested in the Tuzla area south of Odessa. Today’s attempt, as on March 29 in Gvardeyskoye, is a targeting of the missile system’s capabilities to attack deep into Russia at a long range. The distance from Tuzla to Feodosia in a straight trajectory is 415 km.
And the closer the date of the probable activation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front, the more intensive will be the attempts to hit important objects of the military and civilian infrastructure of the Russian Federation.

Expect launch/deployment sites will soon receive some visitors of their own, SRBMs, cruise missiles & drones.

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 10:31 utc | 168

@Boo | Apr 8 2023 9:46 utc | 163
Posted by: Boo | Apr 8 2023 9:46 utc | 163
The “offensive” happens on TV when in real life it can’t or it’s clear it will fail.
When nato said “kiev will fall in 2 days” it was the same thing, an impossible idea just so they can say Putin has failed a week later. Then it was a “winter offensive” which also “failed” somehow.
Now it’s backwards. they say kiev will attack and put tanks in Moscow and take Crimea. Then if a bird shits on a car it’ll be a presented as part of great offensive. “Give them more money, the sequel is being filmed right now”
The terrorist attacks are not an “offensive” and will continue everywhere possible, as long as the slowmotionoperation protects the proxies in Ukr. There’s no war in Kiev. It’s back to 2014, replace word “Donbass” with word “Russia” and that’s it. The only difference is that DU and future chemical or biological attacks will cause permanent damage.
Paul Greenwood | Apr 8 2023 10:00 utc | 164
Your links are very old, update your search to last week.

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2023 10:33 utc | 169

Paul Greenwood | Apr 8 2023 10:00 utc | 164
I forgot to add that my view isn’t so weird anymore.
In a post called “SITREP 4/4/23: Huge Tuesday Update Bonanza”, simplicius76 said: “U.S. likely believes the only chance the West has of winning, is by slow-boiling the frog (…) continue slowly eroding Putin’s public standing, political power and trust (…) keeping Russia in a perpetual lower-intensity slow-boil situation, particularly given that this is the only thing which would allow the West’s arms industries to ‘catch up’ and stand a chance of supplying Ukraine with a commensurate volume of arms.”
Look at that, my “troll” ideas of what nato wants, from a year ago, coming from someone who, at least apparently, isn’t an amateur like me.

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2023 10:44 utc | 170

@ rk | Apr 8 2023 10:44 utc | 170
Yet he is an amateur. Though certainly not akin to you, hm. Aggregates & summarizes the product, analysis & labors of others, & given requests for donations & paid subscriptions, does he compensate them ? Has no knowledge of security classifications, hence neither their significance nor relevance. Hence nil significant military training or experience in Command, Staff or Analysis. Objective observation, not a slur. Yeah, yeah, keep yer pitchforks to yerself if you’re emotionally attached or a groupie.

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 11:06 utc | 171

Slavyangrad reports Russian MOD reporting UAF planning chemical weapon false flag in Chasov Yar, dropping mustard gas on “evacuating civilians”. Yet another scheme to bring Poles into west Ukraine or beyond.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2023 11:26 utc | 172

@ Immaculate deception | Apr 8 2023 3:36 utc | 132
Yes, the “train” is a possibility. But, I’m feeling better about the odds lately. The RoW is coming together. Multipolarity is here. Psychohistorian’s rightfully lamented “shitshow” continues for now but looks likely to come to an end in my lifetime, at least outside the Collective Waste where the Euro-American fascists might hold on.
People in the NATO MIC might want to sell their MIC-adjacent property now, relocate, and learn a peacetime trade. NATO’s ROI turned negative some years ago. If NATO doesn’t go for broke soon, then its oligarchs might decide to cut this ROI-negative investment.
@ karlof1
“13” for Oregon. 🙂

Posted by: natokraine | Apr 8 2023 11:26 utc | 173

Minimum, incomplete, low-ball KIA(only)(FEBA only) 595+ … Translated:

Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation (08.04.2023)
◽️ On the Kupyan direction, strikes by operational and tactical aircraft and army aviation and artillery fire of the “Western” grouping of troops hit the Ukrainian armed forces units in the areas of Hryhorivka, Sinkovka, Peschanoye of Kharkiv region and Stelmakhovka of Luhansk People’s Republic.
💥 Over 30 Ukrainian servicemen, two vehicles, and a D-20 howitzer were destroyed.
◽️ On the Krasno-Limansky direction, air strikes, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems of the Group of Forces (Forces) “Center” defeated enemy units in the areas of Nevskoye of the Luhansk People’s Republic and Yampolovka of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
💥 Up to 80 Ukrainian servicemen, an armored fighting vehicle, a Gvozdika self-propelled artillery unit, and a D-20 howitzer were destroyed in this direction during the day.
◽️ In the Donetsk direction as a result of active actions of the units of the “Southern” group of troops, air strikes and artillery fire over the past day up to 370 Ukrainian servicemen and mercenaries, three infantry fighting vehicles, six armored combat vehicles, three vehicles, as well as the Gvozdika self-propelled artillery unit were destroyed.
◽️ On the South Donetsk and Zaporizhzhya directions, strikes by operational and tactical aircraft and army aviation, and artillery fire of the Vostok Group of Forces hit AFU units in the areas of Ugledar, Kamyshevakha of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Yurkovka and Scherbaki of the Zaporizhzhya region.
💥 The enemy losses in these directions were up to 55 Ukrainian servicemen, an armored fighting vehicle, as well as D-20 and D-30 howitzers.
◽️ In the Kherson direction as a result of the enemy fire up to 60 Ukrainian servicemen, three vehicles, as well as a self-propelled artillery unit Akatsiya were destroyed during the day.
💥 Operational-tactical aviation, missile forces and artillery of the groups of troops (forces) of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation during the day hit 92 artillery units of the AFU at firing positions, manpower and equipment in 114 areas.
💥 In addition, three ammunition depots and rocket and artillery weapons of the AFU were destroyed in the areas of Konstantinovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Berislav (Kherson Region), and Orekhov (Zaporizhzhia Region),
◽️ The air defense forces intercepted seven HIMARS rockets during the day.
💥 Seven Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were also destroyed near the settlements of Stelmakhivka, Lisichansk of the Luhansk People’s Republic, Yehorovka of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Mykhailivka of the Mykolaiv region and Zavetne of the Kherson region.
📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed (losses over previous 24hrs(+?)):
406 aircraft, (Daily avg 1.0)
228 helicopters, (Daily avg 0.6)
3,702(+7) unmanned aerial vehicles, (Daily avg 9.1)
415 surface-to-air missile systems, (Daily avg 1.0)
8,574(+11) tanks and other armored combat vehicles, (Daily avg 21.1)
1,078 multiple rocket launchers, (Daily avg 2.7)
4,532(+7) field artillery and mortars, (Daily avg 11.2) and
9,342(+8) special military vehicles. (Daily avg 23.1)

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 11:27 utc | 174

Of course it’s a cheesy government leak. But take heart. This is their off-ramp.
All the unknown knowns about what can happen next on the battlefields are already quite familiar to anyone watching.
Time for an in-house off-ramp purge and faux regrouping at a later time.
I say this leak is a Russian winner.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Apr 8 2023 11:45 utc | 175

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 11:06 utc | 171
The problem with the amateur commentariat, rushing in to fill the void, is that the element of monetisation has a tendency to taint their product, the way that political considerations have historically affected the intel community.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 8 2023 11:53 utc | 176

⚡️ (https://t.me/msgazdiev/1177)🇷🇺🇺🇦💀 Promised News from #Bakhmut / #Artyomovsk⚡️
1. We don’t really believe what the media and TV channels report, so we are always looking for alternative sources of information.
2. In this sense, our dear friend, the desperate war correspondent Murad Gazdiyev (@msgazdiev), is especially valuable. We do not know whether or not RT smooths over the sharp edges in his reporting from the front, but in personal communication he tells what is and how it really is (of course, without revealing what others are not supposed to know).
3. He just recently returned from #Bakhmut, that’s what’s really going on there now and what you can write with his permission:
– It’s hell there, even compared to #Mariupol. There are craters all around, torn armour and bloody uniforms. Ukrainian.
– The AFU is really in a very bad way, especially with communications. They only bring people in at night, like meat. No “only Russian-speakers”, very many people from West Ukraine, even border guards from #Lvov. POWs say that there is no organization, no commands from above, no one has information, the AFU is disorganized.
– At the same time AFU is not going anywhere, “#Bakhmut meat grinder” is a miracle of our fighters fighting there.
– Almost all heights in the city are ours.
– Those who storm #Bakhmut are in good mood, they work very professionally, it is a new page in the art of urban combat.
– it seems that Ukrainian commanders have left the city and are trying to control it from the suburbs. But, again, there is no retreat of the AFU from #Artyomovk, they are being systematically and successfully pushed out of there.
@Rybar
Get a load of this, despite everything, still more UAF troops pouring into Bakhmut at night. They must be coming through the yet-open Khromove route.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2023 11:54 utc | 177

Voenkor Yevgeny Poddubny reports:
At night, the RF Armed Forces struck at the enemy’s reserves concentrated in Konstantinovka.
Reports are coming in about the destruction of a warehouse with a full fighting loadout (боекомплект) of ammunition and the communication center of the Ukrainian group.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/53494

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2023 12:03 utc | 178

@rk “there is no war in Kiev”
I really think you ought to go to Kiev and tell that to the widows and mothers of the dead boys and men killed in the war.
I’m sure they would appreciate your perspective.

Posted by: Chris | Apr 8 2023 12:09 utc | 179

@karlof1: thanks for that link. Lavrov is always required reading.

Posted by: Kaiama | Apr 8 2023 12:09 utc | 180

Surferket | Apr 8 2023 3:12 utc | 121
‘airburst artillery rounds that send a rain of ball bearings’
Glad someone else realises why Russian forces are being slaughtered and why there is often slow progress. Maybe all the yankee armchair generals on this site have a magic formula for how to advance against the hi tech tungsten cluster munitions their country sends to Ukraine?

Posted by: olaf22 | Apr 8 2023 12:16 utc | 181

Aaron Lee | Apr 8 2023 3:10 utc | 120
‘Almost all commodities are cheaper now compared to 12 months ago’
Well lucky ole USA. Cushioned as ever by its isolation in culture and morality.
‘Europe is also prepared to do anything to keep electricity prices low.’
In UK Internet and energy are all set to go up by at least 17% this month and government subsidies have ended. Many food prices are now 60% higher than a year ago. The scene is set for violence and chaos. People in UK starving for USA foreign ‘policy’. Cheers for nout.

Posted by: olaf22 | Apr 8 2023 12:20 utc | 182

@ unimperator | Apr 8 2023 11:26 utc | 172
@ unimperator | Apr 8 2023 11:54 utc | 177
Unfortunately, being OUN-B Nazi’s under Zelensky, regretfully fully expect they’ll have no hesitation to resort to chemical, dirty bomb & all kinds of miscellaneous terror attacks & false flags, further egregious war crimes, as they go down, in their imagined Götterdämmerung. 🙁

despite everything, still more UAF troops pouring into Bakhmut at night

Amoral Nazi insanity.
@ Milites | Apr 8 2023 11:53 utc | 176
Not keen to dwell on the topic, yet there is that re the profit motive & social media ‘influencer’/’celebrity’ suppose. Pressure to, produce.
As per our previous, LIC & manufactured ‘Peacekeeping’ garbage from ’91 to ’01 also triggered mid ranking service exits prematurely, and then further significant loss re Drone King Obama’s lawless ‘Imperial’ presidency, contrary to constitutionalists, in oh so many ways, Libya, ISIS, Syria, Guantanamo, etc. Am … conflicted.

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 12:22 utc | 183

What does the bar think of the likelyhood of Esch scenario, assumed the Ukraine will launch a Major offensive.
A) big arrow moves towards Crimea and Donetsk encirclement accompagnied by diverting operations into Russia proper (Briansk, Kursk) with airsupport (officially Ukrainian, whoever actually sits in those planes from wherever). If this is going to happen, as something along these lines is definitely being planned by hundreds if not thousands of NATO officers and planners for at least the last halve a year, I am suspecting that those planners and the political leadership are not too ambitious to not try support this effort by freeing up Ukrainian forces through “EU” peace keepers in the West of Ukraine. I think of Polish, Romanian, French and German troops perhaps up until the Dnipr, maybe some maritime landing in Odessa (must be too tempting). Support of Anglosaxons might actually be rather constrained. They have to save their capacities for the Pacific, plus their restraint at least on the surface could help contain the fallout. The reasoning for Germany (and to lesser extent France) is to yield the opportunity to wind the Ukraine out of the hands of the Anglo-Saxons again after they lost the initiative right in the middle of the 2013/14 coup and to open the perspective to regaining control over much of Central Europe again from either Russia or Albion. For the Anglo-Saxons it would be the perfect scenario to ensure, Germany and France being to dependent on NATO infrastructure to not support whatever US/UK chooses to do in the pacific, effectively not becoming an alternative western pole and preventing German/European rapprochement with Russia which would immediately kill all US geopolitical schemes.
If it wants to remain credible, Russia’s government in turn would have to declare war – not on Ukraine, but on all non-nuclear and non security council permanent members involved and consequently start attacking the communications and NATO facilities in Romania, Poland and Germany. Moreover, short of full mobilisation, Russia would certainly would have to start mobilisation and militarisation of economy and society.
NATO will certainly not want to wait until this prepared Ukraine strike fist exhausteditself and Russia activated major reserves in a counter strike.
B) Europe cuts ties with US at least to a certain extend, safeguards business ties with China, seeks pacification of its societies and at least detente with Russia via a China brokered armistice if not peace over Ukraine -effectively becoming an alternative western, Christian reference point in the multipolar sphere. Civil industries would certainly welcome this, alas, I see billionaire dynasties very much in charge and their and their top brass(financial, industrial, academic, political, media) financialized interests are to integrated with Wall Street, Silicon Valley etc. to make this a realistic option bar outright revolutions which are not in the cards until total collapse (which I see not coming before military defeats in a serious war).
C) none of this happens, as Ukrainian spring campaign is going to be a non starter (which I very much doubt).
These are my wild guesses, I am courious about your thoughts!

Posted by: Arminius | Apr 8 2023 12:52 utc | 184

The burning question is what happens now? They still do the offensive anyway, pretty much knowing it’s going to be a blood bath? They already make statements about still needing support if an offensive fails (not much of an expectation).
Zelensky faces a coup if he compromises at all but the attrition doesn’t stop. No off ramp indeed. It’s a hail mary pass but maybe the US orders talks and a ceasefire so they can sell more weapons over time and keep pressure on Russia. Maybe the leaks convince them to do a Korean armistice. Ukraine is structured for utter fanaticism, outside intervention is needed but that’s a bitter pill for the US to swallow. Europe, of course, has no say in the matter as vassals.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 8 2023 13:04 utc | 185

Posted by: rk | Apr 8 2023 10:33 utc | 169
http://euanmearns.com/primary-energy-in-the-european-union-and-usa-compared/
https://www.technology.org/2023/02/04/eu-will-export-2-gigawatts-of-electricity-to-ukraine-to-reduce-its-power-outages/
At the present time, Ukraine has a deficit of electrical power at about 4 gigawatts.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 8 2023 13:07 utc | 186

@ Eighthman | Apr 8 2023 13:04 utc | 185
Zelensky trying to force NATO to the fore when he
forces a “going down in flames counter attack” ?
Imminent folding of Ukraine will force US commanded intervention.
( my guess )

Posted by: MAKK | Apr 8 2023 13:11 utc | 187

I think of Polish, Romanian, French and German troops
Fortunately the Bundeswehr soldiers speak Russian
https://www.reddit.com/r/bundeswehr/comments/raer9y/es_gibt_das_klischee_dass_russlanddeutsche_gerne/

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 8 2023 13:15 utc | 188

reply to 187
Anything can happen but I think the Pentagon and the MIC don’t want an apocalypse. I think the long term greed inherent here is shown by the US pushing for the EU to supply weapons and empty out their stockpiles WHILE NOT delivering US tanks or F-16s because they don’t want bad optics of this stuff getting destroyed – and then trying to sell more.
As with Korea and elsewhere, the goal is permanent hostility and MIC sales. So, they gotta move towards armistice (I think). One last throw of the dice could wreck that.
https://www.rt.com/news/574335-us-blindsided-saudi-iran/
The continuing failure of US intelligence is really stunning. 9/11, Afghanistan, and now this. Not very awake.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 8 2023 13:26 utc | 189

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 8 2023 13:26 utc | 189
US forcing EU to give away German weapons is directly linked to US hegemony losing Middle East and commodity trade globally. Therefore, they want to compensate by selling stuff to EU at exorbitant prices astronomical prices. Also an added benefit – no chance of negative press for US MIC products, only bad press for German and Swedish products.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 8 2023 13:39 utc | 190

reply to 190
Exactly! Note too how Biden opposes talk of Ukraine joining NATO or whatever. This is a good, ‘anti-Armageddon’ sign. Keep the conflict going, keep selling weapons, maintain hegemony. The question is,do they risk total collapse in Ukraine? That might not help their cynical plans.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 8 2023 13:46 utc | 191

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202304/1288707.shtml
Again, what is this? Securing the flanks for more direct engagement in the Ukraine (maintaining EU China business ties and preventing open China support for Russia in that event)?
Or preparation of the European off ramp?
I strongly feel that EU may preparing both options as events further unfold. Higher likelihood of option A still. 2023 will already give at least preliminary answer

Posted by: Arminius | Apr 8 2023 13:55 utc | 192

Madness

Kiev has launched a procedure for imposing sanctions against Syria for a period of 50 years
They include restrictions on trade operations, prohibition of investments, termination of transit of resources, flights and transportation.
Kiev will stop (https://www.me.gov.ua/News/Detail?lang=uk-UA&id=305f1060-690b-4d05-8a0e-0427a41ce7de&title=UriadZapustiv) fulfillment of economic and financial obligations, will prohibit the transfer of technology and intellectual property rights, and will also prohibit the entry of ships under the flag of Syria.
@ukr_leaks_eng

https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/1964

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 8 2023 13:56 utc | 193

Facing critical ammunition shortage, Ukrainian troops ration shells WAPO, Apr8’23, archive.today

DONETSK REGION, Ukraine — The artillery shells were stored in a shallow mud dugout, covered with a black plastic tarp to keep them safe. Just 14 rounds remained — evidence of a critical ammunition shortage that has the Ukrainians scrambling for ways to conserve supply until their Western allies can produce or procure more.
The artillery platoon, with the 59th Motorized Brigade in eastern Ukraine, used to fire more than 20 or 30 shells per day with their Soviet-era howitzer. Now, they typically shoot one or two, or none at all.
The ammunition that has pounded parts of Ukraine daily for more than a year has become a precious resource in the artillery war with Russia — and which side conserves shells and rearms faster could turn the tide on the battlefield.
In the dugout, a Ukrainian soldier reached for a round as his commander recited coordinates for their first shot of the day. “Fire,” yelled the commander, whom The Post agreed to identify by his call sign, Spider, due to the security risks. After the blast, he waited, staring at his phone for another order. He didn’t receive one, so he told his men to stand down, not knowing if the shell had hit its target or his commander just didn’t want to spend another one …
To keep up with their adversary and still conserve ammunition, the Ukrainian military is now pickier in selecting targets, often prioritizing equipment over small groups of infantry. Precision is key because misses mean wasted shells. And in underground workshops across eastern Ukraine, soldiers are using 3D printers and recycling unexploded ordinances to create alternative munitions.
Artillery rounds for Ukraine’s Soviet-era guns, which make up the majority of their arsenal, have long been in short supply. That has forced a reliance on the artillery provided by Kyiv’s Western allies because they use 155mm caliber shells, which Ukraine has more of for now but for far fewer guns.
At the pace Ukraine is firing, those stocks could soon run out, too, as Western countries struggle to ramp up production. In February, NATO Secretary General Jens
Stoltenberg warned that the “current rate of Ukraine’s ammunition expenditure is many times higher than our current rate of production.” …
“We don’t have a lot of ammunition, so that’s why we don’t work a lot,” he said …
In the meantime, the hunt for shells is occasionally perilous. In areas where Russian forces retreated, soldiers wade through mined fields and forest to look for abandoned ammunition. One such group, which was ferrying any shells to the 59th brigade, recently hit unexploded ordnance.
The 14 shells Spider’s platoon has left came from Russian stocks seized in the Kherson region in November. Spider said he didn’t know when he would get more.
The United States has searched worldwide to round up stockpiles of Soviet artillery rounds, but deliveries can take months. On Tuesday, as part of a larger security assistance package, the Pentagon said it would provide an unspecified number of artillery shells, including 122mm caliber rounds it does not produce itself. A workhorse Ukrainian artillery piece, the D-30, uses such rounds …
Shaman passed another set of coordinates down to the soldiers operating the howitzers on the ground for the next wave of fire. The Ukrainians that day could use their 155mm rounds while saving their Soviet calibers. But how long would that last?
“At the beginning of the war, we were working to contain the enemy,” Shaman said. “Those were the toughest months, we were stopping them and our Soviet cannons wouldn’t shut up. We exhausted everything we had, but we stopped the enemy. Now, to go on the offensive, contain the enemy … we need more ammunition.”

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 8 2023 14:21 utc | 194

The question of Russia’s ridiculously discounted oil sales to India, and others, has been perplexing me for awhile now, however I think I’ve found my answer. Based on RT’s own admission, Russia sells insanely cheap oil to India. India raises the price to match the price cap set on Russian oil and then sells it to the EU. This makes perfect sense, because if India, and others, were making too much profit off the sales, the EU and the USA would retaliate in a major way, yet they havent, which is very telling. It also explains, why the EU has had plenty of oil supplies this whole time.
Also, this scenario provides the answer as to why the price of oil hasnt shot through the roof, which defies all common logic as Russia is the world’s largest oil producer. Under normal circumstances, oil should be sky high now, but since Russia provides oil at a loss the world oil market is unaffected.
Not to mention, the continued Russian oil transport through the pipelines in Ukraine and other peculiarities.
Finally, read this quote from the RT article. Basically, we are all being played.
” Discounted crude from Russia allowed Asian processing plants to boost production and sell oil products to the EU at a COMPETITIVE price. ”
– EU buying Russian fuel through India –
https://www.rt.com/business/574246-india-eu-diesel-exports-soar/

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 8 2023 14:28 utc | 195

@ rjb1.5 39
I have some personal info about Jeffry St.Clair, one of Counterpunch‘s two editors.
Shortly after the great Alexander Cockburn died and St. Clair became editor, St. Claire wrote an essay about Syria that was full of BS, both outright lies and misrepresentations. I thought St. Clair was merely misinformed, so I sent him an email explaining or debunking 5 or 6 of his errors, with links. He sent back a two word reply which said everything we needed to know about St. Clair. The reply was “F_ck you.” But properly spelled out, of course. Since he felt that way, I was surprised I got a reply. That refusal to discuss or debate his bombshell U-turn showed St. Clair was not acting in good faith, and probably never had been in good faith. I believe this SOB was planted, or planted himself, at Counterpunch, from 1996-2012, biding his time until Cockburn passed away. In hindsight, I wonder if Cockburn’s death from cancer was a natural event.
In the year after St. Clair became editor, four of my friends, some of whom were prolific writers for Counterpunch, were kicked out. Only one of them, Mike Whitney, went public with what happened. He now publishes at unz.com, where you can find his denunciation of St. Clair. My other friends preferred to take their lumps in private, afraid the average Counterpunch reader would not know or care. I couldn’t dispute their low opinion of the average readership. St. Clair betrayed their contributions, including a donation of the profits from the American publication of a popular book. Counterpunch had always had its share of stupid and dishonest essays, but with all the good essays excised, it became a cesspool. Many things made me turn away from “the left’, but this was a big one. A sh*t-head “Marxist”-Zio shill like Louis Proyect can spout hateful lies and not get challenged. Everything I despised about the American anti-war movement came to the fore after Alexander Cockburn died: The fawning for fame and courting media-manufactured “celebreties”, the refusal to call a spade a spade when it matters most, the unwillingness to put together any analysis strong enough to have traction in the real world, a tea-party atmosphere that smells bad, and a total intent to never do anything useful.
That’s the dead end of Counterpunch.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Apr 8 2023 14:32 utc | 196

Anything written by the MSM is false. So if the MSM is telling you Ukraine is out of shells it means they have surpluss. If they are leaking stories about an attack in the sount, the attack is going to be in the north.

Posted by: steve | Apr 8 2023 14:40 utc | 197

Putin stating the obvious.
– Russia, China are not creating military alliance, Putin says –
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-putin-russia-china-not-080443596.html
China will save us !
– World Economic Forum chair Klaus Schwab declares on Chinese state TV: ‘China is a model for many nations’ –
https://www.foxnews.com/world/world-economic-forum-chair-klaus-schwab-declares-chinese-state-tv-china-model-many-nations

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 8 2023 14:53 utc | 198

“The great Alexander Cockburn” was a POS, too. Using the word “left” in describing anything domestic US is an equal fail. Lumping antiwar activists? Fail.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Apr 8 2023 15:17 utc | 199

About those “leaked” documents. Most Russian channels are poohpoohing them, Readovka for example. Poorly constructed from open sources with lots of contradictions in them.
Posted by: Boo | Apr 7 2023 19:28 utc | 25
It certainly feels like the US is putting all of these plans out there in order to control the narrative. Misdirection? Not sure. Actual plans? I’m suspect.

Posted by: Slat1 | Apr 8 2023 15:20 utc | 200