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April 3, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-80

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

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Some background superb music for the bar …..
Pink Floyd – The Dark Side Of The Moon (50th Anniversary) [2023 Remaster] {Full Album}
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ynZnEBtvw
Takes a break from The Dark Side of Bakmuth .. 43 mins

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 3 2023 16:40 utc | 1

Russia interrogates woman captured yesterday for Cafe explosion. Russian war blogger did not survive.
VIDEO https://twitter.com/AbrahamStein8/status/1642931563221467137?s=20

Posted by: Dave Oneil | Apr 3 2023 16:47 utc | 2

“Russia has said it will bolster its defences near its 1,300km border with Finland after the Nato secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, announced that the Nordic country would formally join the transatlantic defence alliance on Tuesday.”

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 3 2023 16:59 utc | 3

BAKHMUT:
The Russians continue to take large chunks out of Bakhmut City every week. This looks to be the case for this week also. At this rate Bakhmut will fall to the Russians soon.
Several months ago most would have figured that Russia would physically encircle Bakhmut and put it into total siege. However, the Russians never did this.
Perhaps they could not because of Ukrainian attacks and defense upon the roads into Bakhmut from Chasiv Yar. Or perhaps Russia felt like their fire control over these roads was sufficient to significantly hinder military supply to the AFU troops in Bakhmut.
Recently, another view came to the forefront. That was that Ukraine has a tunnel from Bakhmut to Chasiv Yar 20 km to the West of Bakhmut which is being used for resupply of the Ukrainain troops in Bakhmut.
Regardless of the reasons the Russians have not physically cut off all the roads into Bakhmut, the Wagner forces within Bakhmut are carving away new territory at a much faster rate now. Large chunks of the city are falling into Russian hands every week.
At this rate it will not take many more months or maybe many more weeks before Bakhmut has fallen into Russian hands.
This was foretold by the Western media preparing its readers and listeners that the City of Bakhmut was not of any significant military importance.
If Bakhmut was not of such importance to Ukraine, it is a shame so many Ukrainians and others have died there attempting to keep it in the hands of the AFU.
Going forward, the next important military question regarding Ukraine is how the fall of Bakhmut will affect the zero lines in Ukraine.

Posted by: young | Apr 3 2023 17:11 utc | 4

Andrew Cockburn discussing his book, “The Spoils of War: Power, Profit and the American War Machine”
Lays bare many aspects of the financial incentives at play within the American war machine. Worth a watch.
Andrew Cockburn : Americas War Machine
Americas War Machine

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Apr 3 2023 17:14 utc | 5

“US expects Kiev to launch counteroffensive in coming weeks” – US envoy to NATO
It’s like a trailer for a movie, “coming this spring”. Though ugly envoy didn’t say which year.

Posted by: rk | Apr 3 2023 17:22 utc | 6

“Russia has said it will bolster its defences near its 1,300km border with Finland after the Nato secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, announced that the Nordic country would formally join the transatlantic defence alliance on Tuesday.”
A true strategic and geopolitical triumph for Putin. Russia certainly has forces to spare as they are holding back against Ukraine to spare civilian losses.
And when it comes time to invade Finland, it will be a pushover just like 1939.

Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Apr 3 2023 17:26 utc | 7

⚡️⚡️⚡️#Inside
Our source in the OP said that the Americans demanded that the Office of the President restart the entire judicial system in Ukraine, we are expected to resign the heads of courts, as well as purges. The clientele of Artyom Sytnik for the Head of NABU was also agreed, the whole competition is an empty fiction.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/16517

Bank will start overloading the entire judicial system under the soros. Our source from the Office of the President informed the offices of these reforms in February, but in reality they turned out to be even more cunning, and they want to check not only new, but also old judges for “good faith”. In accordance with this reform, upon retirement, judges must pass the criterion of “good faith” according to the same procedure as when passing the qualification assessment. Evaluation will be done by the GDT.
Passed – retire with content.
Did not pass – just dismissal without maintenance and guarantees.
The idea is to provoke a voluntary outflow of many judges, and the authorities will not be able to influence the commission, since the Soros will oversee it.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17147

Posted by: Down South | Apr 3 2023 17:31 utc | 8

⚡️⚡️ ⚡️#Inside
Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President cannot refuse to defend Bakhmut, Zelensky’s image is at stake. More and more new units are being brought into the city, and in the last month, the elite units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Alpha SBU. Syrsky continues to convince the President that he can keep Bakhmut before the start of the counter-offensive on the Crimea.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17148

Posted by: Down South | Apr 3 2023 17:32 utc | 9

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Situation in the #Donetsk Direction until 18:00 on 3 Apr 2023⚡️
▪️ In the #Donetsk Direction, the AFU is reinforcing their positions. New batches of ammunition have been transferred to the frontline, and limited amounts of fuel have been issued due to disruptions in the supply of fuel and lubricants. At the same time, reinforcements from other parts of the front are expected to move to the line of contact.
🔹In the #Avdeyevka Sector, units of the AFU’s 59th Motorized Infantry Brigade are preparing for an offensive north of Avdeyevka against Russian positions near #Krasnogorovka.
Ukrainian formations have been issued with dry rations for several days and refuelling of equipment has been organized. A couple of days ago, the AFU had already attempted to retake the lost territories, but the RF Armed Forces successfully repulsed the attack.
🔹In #Maryinka, fierce position fighting continues. Soldiers of the RF Armed Forces are storming Ukrainian strongholds in the city centre near the church on Druzhba Avenue and on the northern outskirts behind the reservoir. For the time being, the AFU are holding their ground by setting up firing points in houses.
▪️ In #Marinka, reinforcements of the AFU arrived to rotate the personnel of the Ukrainian Air Assault Forces’ 79th Airborne Assault Brigade. And four tanks from the outskirts of #Kurakhovo were moved to #Maksimilyanovka .
▪️ Members of the Ukrainian formations talk about power outages in their occupied DPR territory due to the Russian strike on the #Kurakhovo TPP.
🔹In the #Ugledar Section near Novy Komar, an unidentified unit is being trained by US instructors to conduct small group assault operations.
🔸In #Dnepropetrovsk Region, the training of the 23rd Mechanized Brigade of the AFU is coming to an end at a training range near #Novomoskovsk. Upon completion of the training, the personnel of the 23rd Brigade will be redeployed to the #Donetsk direction in one of the areas.
In addition, a battery of M109A6 Paladin self-propelled artillery units (eight SAU units and around 120 men) is scheduled to be deployed to the #Donetsk direction from 8 April. The A6 modifications are equipped with improved armour protection and an automated fire control system.
📌 The Ukrainian Authorities are currently planning to significantly reinforce the grouping of troops in the #Donetsk direction. Given certain successes of the Russian army in #Maryinka and near #Avdeyevka, it is highly likely that the AFU will try to launch a counterattack somewhere near these suburbs of #Donetsk.
The general design of the AFU spring-summer campaign implies an offensive with a broad front in one or two directions, with several stalling in other areas, starting from #Kherson and ending in the #Kharkov region. This will make it possible to identify the least defended positions of the RF Armed Forces and strike there to break through the front.
As we said earlier, in addition to #Zaporozhye, we should also expect attacks in other sections of the front. The plans to engage only the 23rd Mechanized Brigade in the #Donetsk direction indirectly point to preparations for this near #Donetsk.

https://t.me/sitreports/6693

Posted by: Down South | Apr 3 2023 17:34 utc | 10

Weeb Union a few minutes ago … more advances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpGRVow2kd8

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 3 2023 17:34 utc | 11

One hour ago ….
Russia Ukraine War: Japan Buys Russian Oil | BRICS Challenges US Dollar | Vantage with Palki Sharma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqW5se0qz1E

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 3 2023 17:38 utc | 12

“US expects Kiev to launch counteroffensive in coming weeks” […]
Posted by: rk | Apr 3 2023 17:22 utc | 6

As days passes, US orders “to the last Ukrainian” become more and more straightforward.

Posted by: W | Apr 3 2023 17:38 utc | 13

If Ukraine initiates an all-out offensive….Will Russia increase their Air Support?

Posted by: Ramsey Glissadevil | Apr 3 2023 17:46 utc | 14

Posted by: W | Apr 3 2023 17:38 utc | 13
Every day that passes without launching some offensive, the weaker Ukraine offensive potential becomes and harder is to begin.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 17:50 utc | 15

“US expects Kiev to launch counteroffensive in coming weeks” […]
Posted by: rk | Apr 3 2023 17:22 utc | 6
We have been hearing this since September.
Remember when Zelensky promised to take back Crimea by end of 2022?
Good times.

Posted by: Chris | Apr 3 2023 17:56 utc | 16

I hear big numbers mentioned for Zelensky’s futile spring offensive.
But the important question is….
How many will be going home again afterwards ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 3 2023 17:56 utc | 17

@ Don Firineach, §12:
Yes, Don, I expect this to roll on: Japan wants to be friends with its neighbours and only American bombast is preventing it.
Eventually, Japan will do a deal with Russia: return of the Kurils in exchange for removing the Americans from the Ryukyus and ending the America-Japan “alliance” – which is really just a continuation of America´s occupation since WW2.

Posted by: John Marks | Apr 3 2023 17:59 utc | 18

Today’s morning update. Articles from Telegram, Twitter and various news sources on the war and America’s slide into third world irrelevance.
Update from Ukraine for 2023-04-03

Posted by: Will | Apr 3 2023 18:01 utc | 19

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 3 2023 17:56 utc | 17
A few weeks ago Ukraine announced a new 500k mobilization over 4 months. This is to replace losses and build up 1st wave cannon foddet for offensive. It most likely will be temporarily enough to achieve a surge in troop numbers, but maybe a short-lived one.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 18:01 utc | 20

For number 1. Takes a break from The Dark Side of Bakmuth .. 43 mins
applies to backmut or Artemivsk. 6 of this or half a dozen? Means same thing. Tomato or clamato… whatever … I’m waiting for the evil russian empire to take on Manhatten new york ukraine. The new Republic of NovaRUS
What happens to good Ukranian soldiers (guys picked off the street and get wounded) when they die.
Tis tacky but
https://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/312089/Christopher/

Posted by: angelo | Apr 3 2023 18:05 utc | 21

Posted by: Down South | Apr 3 2023 17:31 utc | 8
The idea is to provoke a voluntary outflow of many judges, and the authorities will not be able to influence the commission, since the Soros will oversee it.
The prophecy of Sheikh Imran Hossein is unfolding exactly as he foretold so many years ago:
Ukraine will be turned completely and utterly into a weapon wielded by the Khazars against Russia. It’s purpose will be no other.
Islam, Russia, Ukraine and the alliance with Rum

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 3 2023 18:07 utc | 22

Man I so love it, when Africans tell their former masters to shove it.
https://twitter.com/african_stream/status/1641792298823417860

Posted by: Roland | Apr 3 2023 18:12 utc | 23

Ukraine survives and fights thanks to the support of the West, both in materials/intelligence as well as cash. If this was not the case, it would have been over long ago.
The situation is thus such that every dollar or euro sent to Ukraine prolongs the war by a certain amount of time. If we assume that 50B has been already spent, we can extrapolate that each billion buys a week or so. Doesnt matter what that number exactly is, what matters is that it exists and has a certain value in $/€ per week.
The direction of the war can be sensed by whether that number is falling or increasing. I believe with the pledge of increasingly more sophisticated equipment and more monies that it it is increasing.
The War of attrition thus comes down to money. If Russia can keep increasing the cost for the West in dollars per week, at a certain point it will cost the West more to keep the War going than to accept some loss and make peace.
What is that number, how far off are we? Can Russia keep this up? Can the West scale up equipment production to lower its cost? Note that we are talking about real money spent here, not some leveraged scheme.

Posted by: alek_a | Apr 3 2023 18:19 utc | 24

https://kyivindependent.com/presidents-office-head-urges-calmly-react-to-fakes-after-wagner-boss-claims-seizure-of-bakhmut-administration-building/
This gives vibes of The Battle of Debaltseve- Minsk 2
President Poroshenko said that about 2,500 men had withdrawn from Debaltseve by the end of the day on 18 February, and this number represented 80% of the Ukrainian troops that had been in the city.[112][113][114] Official reports said that thirteen soldiers had died during the retreat, and that 157 had been wounded. As above, soldiers on the ground disputed these numbers as grossly inaccurate, and said that the number of dead was “clearly in the hundreds”.[112][115][116] Two weeks later, the official casualty toll during the retreat was put at 19 dead, 12 missing, 9 captured and 135 wounded.[117] Ukrainian government sources, on the other hand, reported that 185 soldiers had died during the battle,[118] 112 had been taken prisoner,[23] and 81 were missing.[119] The Ukrainian death toll was later updated to 267 dead, after the bodies of many of the missing were found.[22] Separatist leaders also said that their forces had captured a significant amount of Ukrainian heavy weaponry that had been left behind during the retreat.[120]
Some soldiers remained trapped in Debaltseve on 19 February, but soldiers that previously escaped said that they were forbidden from rescuing their trapped comrades.[121]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Debaltseve#References

Posted by: Paul | Apr 3 2023 18:19 utc | 25

Russia Ukraine War: Japan Buys Russian Oil | BRICS Challenges US Dollar | Vantage with Palki Sharma
Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 3 2023 17:38 utc | 12
As time goes on there are multiple examples of the falling status of the dollar. I posted this at the tail end of the last Open Thread … Mario Rubio (not even the brightest spark in a pack of dimly lit congressionaires) has finally worked it out …

” … today Brazil, largest Country in the western hemisphere to the South of us, cut a trade deal and will now do trade in their own currencies. Get right around around the dollar. They are creating a secondary economy totally independent of the United States. We won’t have to talk about sanctions in five years because there will be so many countries transacting in currencies other than the dollar that we won’t have the ability to sanction them.”

DonbassDevushka
Link : DonbassDevushka

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Apr 3 2023 18:20 utc | 26

Unimperator @ 20
Thanks for that figure, that’s what I’d thought I heared.
But then zelinsky is a pathological liyer.
We do pretty much know that in the past its been a one way ticket to the killing fields and no return, except for critically wounded.
Here’s another question….
How many of that 50,000 are there, becouse they want to be. Very few I suggest.
And obviously they couldn’t leave even if they wanted to.
What kind of monsters have our western govenments turned into.
The curtain has lifted we see them for what they truly are.
And all that, with the eyes of the world upon them.
Disgusting.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 3 2023 18:32 utc | 27

Recall the political goal announced during the Fall of 2022 to move Ukie lines, and particularly their artillery, out-of-range to strike Russian lands. This has yet to be accomplished and thus remains Russia’s current political goal within Ukraine. Yes, great suppression has occurred, but the goal still remains elusive. We’re now into April and the long range weather forecast for the Donetsk area is for 10 days of precipitation spread over the month while high temps climb above 13c to over 16c for the last 10 days of April. There will still be some mud, but fields will be drier and foliage will emerge from the currently barren trees and shrubs. Elsewhere in Ukraine the question becomes will farmers attempt to sow crops? Or perhaps the better question is: Are there any remaining farmers? And if they emerge to try and obtain fuel for their tractors and go to work, will they not be captured by the press gangs and sent to the front?
There’s lots of grousing about the need for Russia to beat the Ukies to the punch by launching their offensive first to deter the Ukie plans. With the need to still attain the political goal, it seems logical that Russia will act first. Orthodox Easter is the 16th, Good Friday the 14th, but do those dates have any meaning? As usual, only the Genral Staff knows what it has planned.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 3 2023 18:33 utc | 28

@ young, 4

Several months ago most would have figured that Russia would physically encircle Bakhmut and put it into total siege. However, the Russians never did this.
Perhaps they could not because of Ukrainian attacks and defense upon the roads into Bakhmut from Chasiv Yar. Or perhaps Russia felt like their fire control over these roads was sufficient to significantly hinder military supply to the AFU troops in Bakhmut.

Going back 2000+ years generals already knew that the best strategy for destroying an enemy was to surround them on every side but allow the units one corridor to flee. This was one of Sun Zu’s key lessons. It remains true today.
The principle is simple: if you fully surround an enemy they will fight to the lst man, digging into any and every nook and cranny that will allow them to kill your invading forces. Terrain outside of undulating deserts almost always favors the defenders.
If one leaves a corridor open for retreat then the defenders will be most inclined to flee rather than face certain death. In their retreat they may be killed more easily.
Like I said: this is a lesson in warfare that was already known 2000+ years ago.
The Russians never intended to fully surround Bakhmut. Anyone who says differently is a fool who pretends to know something they have no knowledge of.

Posted by: Pacifica_Advocate | Apr 3 2023 18:39 utc | 30

Noam A. Larkey @ 7
Why would they invade Finland?

Posted by: mando | Apr 3 2023 18:41 utc | 31

I hear big numbers mentioned for Zelensky’s futile spring offensive.
But the important question is….
How many will be going home again afterwards ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 3 2023 17:56 utc | 17
A question no-one in the Nato west cares to answer or discuss.

Posted by: jpc | Apr 3 2023 18:48 utc | 32

@ John Marks, 18

@ Don Firineach, §12:
Yes, Don, I expect this to roll on: Japan wants to be friends with its neighbours and only American bombast is preventing it.

Japan is currently ruled by an exclusive, perennially re-elected clique of men who are descended (only by two generations!) from the WWII-era war criminals who gave the U.S. its bio-weapons program courtesy of mass mutilations of Chinese and Koreans (among others), all in the name of “Der Emperor!”
Japan’s current government has little interest in “being friends” with anyone. Its leaders are much more focused on resurrecting their colonial ambitions, and this will doom Japan to the same fate that the U.S. is facing.

Posted by: Pacifica_Advocate | Apr 3 2023 18:48 utc | 33

Hi alek_a
UA has started to cut cost:
An overhaul of how the military determines bonus pay may cause more harm than good, six servicemen from multiple brigades told the Kyiv Independent.
This change, which came into force in February, takes away the money that many service members need to both support their families and get vital military gear, they said. As a result, some are concerned, disillusioned or considering going back to a civilian job.
Soldiers said that their units track where they serve in paper journals, which officers don’t have time for in the midst of combat. This may lead to confusion and inconsistency with how bonuses are paid out.
Some are still waiting for their bonuses from as early as November or December.
Previously, soldiers, members of the Territorial Defense forces and police got an extra Hr 100,000 ($2,700) per month if they served in a designated active combat zone – a significant bonus in a country where the official average salary is just under Hr 15,000 ($400). Those who served outside active combat areas got an extra Hr 30,000 ($800) per month.
But starting February, only people in direct enemy contact are entitled to get up to Hr 100,000. People in combat zones, some distance away from the front line get up to Hr 30,000, while everyone who is outside an active combat zone gets no bonus at all. Rather than counting an entire month, bonuses are tallied by the day, soldiers said.
https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-soldiers-criticize-changes-to-combat-bonus-pay/

Posted by: Paul | Apr 3 2023 18:52 utc | 34

Re: Zambia Opposition leader remarks,
Posted by: Roland | Apr 3 2023 18:12 utc | 23
Lovely, but delivered days ago and not a direct response to kackling/babbling Kamala.

Posted by: Tapio | Apr 3 2023 18:58 utc | 35

It’s quite a coincidence that Musk choose his dog as the new Twitter logo. The same breed of dog that is also the NAFO mascot. The same Musk that would re-instate Twitter to its core values again… whatever that would have meant. Meanwhile one after the other Twitter user a bit too critical on the NATO war effort against Russia gets banned. The same Musk who’s Starlink is actively used by the Ukrainian proxy army and NATO rear troops in the field disguised as mercenaries for communicating, targeting and navigating NATO missiles and a variety of drones to Russian targets… . The most effective evil is the one you don’t recognize.

Posted by: xor | Apr 3 2023 19:00 utc | 36

In a article in todays Counterpunch, Roger McKenzie, a reporter for the Morning Star, and the general secretary of Liberation, one of the oldest UK human rights organizations, writes a fairly decent commentary about the stated United States policy since 1997, known as “Full Spectrum Dominance (FSD).”
According to McKenzie, the United States behaves the way that it does on the international stage in order to safeguarding the profits of monopoly capital, which carries politicians in Washington around in its pockets like loose change.
FSD means that the United States also will not tolerate others, such as China, muscling in on potential new markets or swaying people away from its sphere of influence, and according to McKenzie, “China is seen as the biggest threat to the profits of the companies that currently decide pretty much what we will eat and even when we can eat it.”
“Enforcement of [FSD] has included everything from the funding of opposition forces in sovereign nation (color revolutions), the removal or even assassination of political leaders who refuse to toe the line, economic sanctions, and military intervention.”
Everyone should read the article, but I do have a bone to pick the author, and with Counterpunch. The Simple Reason Why the U.S. Wants ‘Full Spectrum Dominance’ of the Earth – CounterPunch.org
McKenzie never once mentions Russia, the US proxy war in Ukraine, or the history of the US/NATO encirclement of Russia. IN fact, McKenzie doesn’t mention NATO at all. How can someone write an article about FSD without mentioning NATO and the Russian struggle against the US policy of Full Spectrum Dominance? NATO is an integral part of the mechanism that enforces FSD.
It appears that McKenzie and Counterpunch both have a problem discussing the elephant in the room: Russia has drawn a line at US/NATO placing US/NATO nukes on Russia’s western border with Ukraine as a part of the US policy of FSD.
McKenzie quite correctly points out that: “Anyone who expects the Chinese to simply sit back and take the provocations dealt out by the two-faced Americans is living in cloud cuckoo land.” OK, but does that not also apply to Russia as well Mr. McKenzie. If the US/ China struggle turns into a shooting war over the status of Taiwan, will you also block China out of your “peace movement” as well.
According to McKenzie, “[t]he answers to full spectrum dominance is full spectrum resistance and organizing… [and] It is necessary to gear our efforts away from piecemeal change and toward revolutionary transformation. This will mean bringing together unions, climate activism, equality organizing, and a range of other social and economic movements in a serious change away from liberal posturing.”
All, well and good, but when this strategy was successfully used during the Vietnam conflict, the movement did not turn its back on the victims of US foreign policy then, and we should not do it today in Ukraine. Both the Ukrainian and the Russian people are the victims of US (FSD) foreign policy. There is equivalency to the present struggle: The ARNV and the AFU (the US proxy army in Vietnam and Ukraine), the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam and the pro-Russian, anti-Nazi resistance fighters of the Donbass, and the People’s Liberation Army of Vietnam (UAV) and Russia the real target of the Ukrainian conflict.

Posted by: Ed | Apr 3 2023 19:04 utc | 37

… a new 500k mobilization … but maybe a short-lived one.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 18:01 utc | 20

The displacement and virtual eradication of the child-bearing population.

Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 3 2023 19:12 utc | 38

I would appreciate your perspective on this story, written by Russell Bentley, an American who has been living in Donbas since 2014. He is sharply critical of the way the Russians have conducted the intervention, expresses deep concerns for the possibility of a Russian defeat, and seems to have a very different take on Ukraine’s capabilities than the one I have mostly been reading.
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2023/03/30/the-bakmut-diversion-and-the-donbas-defense-a-view-from-donetsk/

Posted by: Martin Holsinger | Apr 3 2023 19:23 utc | 39

@Martin Holsinger | Apr 3 2023 19:23 utc | 39
This article has been discussed multiple times already. If the UAF offensive actually materializes in the next couple of weeks we will see how it goes. The strengths and strategies of both sides are a black box with lots of speculation from all quarters. Both sides have had over a year of experience with battle, and for the UAF this is likely their last best shot to change the dynamics. We will see how effectively each party deploys and utilizes its resources given lessons learned from the last year of combat.

Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 3 2023 19:34 utc | 40

anon 2020 @ 38
The healthy ones, the smart ones, the good-looking ones, all left long ago. The chances of repopulating territory of Ukraine with Ukrainians is zero. Ukraine becomes something like Bessarabia or Ruthenia – a place that specialists can identify and describe about which few if any care at all.
Tey will not mobilize 500k this time. They would be drafting 80 year old women.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 3 2023 19:35 utc | 41

Roland no. 23
Great speech. And there was a good post further down about Finland’s PM losing the election.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 3 2023 19:38 utc | 42

It would be interesting to get some numbers of US tank, AFV, artillery and Himars production. Does anyone have ideas or guesstimates where to look for?

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 19:56 utc | 43

@ Pacifica_Advocate, §33:
Well, Shinzo Abe was one of the clique you mention: grandson of Nobusuke Kishi, the effective wartime ruler of Manchukuo.
And yet they assassinated Abe last year, just before an election he was likely to win.
I suspect he saw Japan as yes, resurrecting its national ambitions, but without the Americans – which was why he was assassinated.
I think the crimes of the Japanese against the Chinese and Koreans are recognized by the Japanese – though not accepted by the victims. A part of Japanese change from American occupation may indeed be to better reconcile with its neighbours China and Korea. It would have the benefit for Japan of necessarily better relations with Russia also.
The effect of such on the Americans would be almost equivalent to the Europeans abandoning the Ukraine war and NATO.
Korea, Taiwan and the Philippines may also be tempted to “reorientate” if the Japanese could successfully throw off American dominion. None of them want to be patsies against China as the Europeans are being used against Russia.
Abe realized all this.
Which was why they (the CIA probably) had Abe assassinated.

Posted by: John Marks | Apr 3 2023 19:59 utc | 44

Posted by: Martin Holsinger | Apr 3 2023 19:23 utc | 39
As @pessimist pointed out, we have kicked that one around here in other threads.
We ought to respect his warning, simply because, unlike 99% of the commenters around here, including myself, he has put actual skin in the game.
One thing I can do is provide some critical thinking. The first question I’d ask is, why has not such a counteroffensive happened yet?
If you believe that NATO is capable of it, what are they waiting for? Why let another 100k+ Ukrainians die since we started hearing this at least 2-3 months ago? Granted, neither Zelensky nor his puppet masters seem to care much about their own military, preferring to see them as expendable heroes.
Second would be, why did the author have to take an ad-hominem attack on Ritter? Not a huge deal but it could reveal a bit of jealousy in there.
My own personal guess is that there is some sort of behind-the-scenes deal to not escalate this thing too far, and let it play out in a WWI fashion. Which gives the advantage to Russia but at a painfully slow pace and awful price to both sides.

Posted by: Chris | Apr 3 2023 20:10 utc | 45

Pacifica_Advocate | Apr 3 2023 18:39 utc | 30
Leave a corridor for an encircled enemy to flee is best strategy????
Did you ever hear of the Battle of Stalingrad?

Posted by: Jerr | Apr 3 2023 20:10 utc | 46

It would be interesting to get some numbers of US tank, AFV, artillery and Himars production. Does anyone have ideas or guesstimates where to look for?
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 19:56 utc | 43
Brian Berletic has done a number of breakdown of US weapons to Ukraine over the last few months. I would suggest that this might be good place to look for your purposes…
Tactics, Arms & Ammo: What Will Shape Ukraine’s Offensive & Impact its Aftermath (7 days ago)
Brian Berletic at The New Atlas

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Apr 3 2023 20:12 utc | 47

@ Ed, §37:
Well said, Ed.
People need to realize, as I think Lavrov, Putin and the Russians now do, that America is literally ruled by corporations with the ethics of the Mafia. The banks have been awash with laundered drug money for decades. The CIA/DEA is essentially the most powerful drug cartel protecting their turf from competitors such as those in Colombia and Mexico. This is the natural result of Prohibition: trying to suppress people´s choices. The Americans learnt the lesson with the alcohol prohibition – and then forgot it by continuing the drug prohibition.
As you say, all the Senate and Congress (with few, too few, noble exceptions) are loose change in the corporations and banksters´ pockets. No civilized state will tolerate this for long and it looks like a testimony to the nobility of the real American civilization that Americans themselves will not tolerate this mercantile tyranny much longer. The shenanigans surrounding Trump´s candidacy for 2024 may be the spark lights the revolt against the Mafiosi currently in charge in America. It won´t be pretty . . .

Posted by: John Marks | Apr 3 2023 20:22 utc | 48

“…Japan will do a deal with Russia: return of the Kurils in exchange for…” That won’t happen, Russian Constitution explicitly forbids selling or giving territory.

Posted by: Phariah | Apr 3 2023 20:32 utc | 49

is richard steven hack on a holiday? maybe he has writers block too…

Posted by: james | Apr 3 2023 20:44 utc | 50

I wonder if b has a chance to do some meta analysis on his clientele? I’m finding it v interesting 🧐
Be well barflies – tomorrow is another day closer to the end of the zombie empire.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 3 2023 20:50 utc | 51

@46
there’s a difference.
In Stalingrad times (they may return though) it was fighting tooth and nail, whatever the cost in human (soldier’s) lives. There was no other option. The amount of dead on on both sides was simply staggering. In this war there are controversies about 50000 or 100000 or 2ooooo casualities but back then it was about millions. So that scale has been lowered. So different tactics are allowed. And if Ukrainian troops can escape, leaving heavy weapons (and their courage) behind, why not?

Posted by: Anthony | Apr 3 2023 20:51 utc | 52

……”The Democracy of the United States was stolen long time ago, Bill”……..
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1642393176534298625/pu/vid/1280×720/hQVbpuK4ezE10HiB.mp4?tag=12
I think Bill Maher regrets having Jimmy Dore on his show last night.

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Apr 3 2023 20:52 utc | 53

@ Phariah, §49:
That´s true for explicitly Russian territory.
But Russia and Japan haven´t signed a Peace Treaty to formally end WW2.
The Cairo and Potsdam declarations limited Japan to its home territory “not gained by violence nor greed” i.e. before the Imperial project launched in 1890. Thus Taiwan, Sakhalin, Korea, Micronesia, Manchuria, etc., etc. were returned to their former owners.
The Kurils and the Ryukyus were peacefully part of Japan before their imperialist gamble.
Both were occupied after WW2, the Kurils by the Russians and the Ryukyus by the Americans.
There is obviously no incentive for the Russians to return the Kurils as long as the Americans occupy the Ryukyus (and, effectively, all of Japan).
That´s why Abe tried to steer Japan away from America, end the occupation by America and return of the Kurils via a Peace Treaty with Russia.
For that endeavour, he was assassinated by the CIA last year.

Posted by: John Marks | Apr 3 2023 20:52 utc | 54

Posted by: John Marks | Apr 3 2023 20:22 utc | 48
They dont have the “ethics of the Mafia”, they ARE the mafia.
No they didn’t forget the lesson of the prohibition: they became the owner of the US of A THANKS to of the Volstead Act, October 28, 1919.
Since then they have prohibited Cannabis and innocuous Hemp (without giving any reason), as well as opioids which were easily available during the 19th century.
They have made many medications prescription drugs, so to deprive “We The People” from easy and cheap access to it – ANTIBIOTICS and PAIN RELIEVERS should be over the counter drugs, etc …
Instead they wage some narrative war against ASPIRIN to shift prescription to costly and much more dangerous products.
BTW, OTC Aspirin + Tylenol together are powerful pain killers – to some extent.
They make huge money over these prohibitions and strangleholds to access to daily life products, not mentionning enormous price increases (ten fold often).

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 3 2023 21:04 utc | 55

Martin Holsinger @39–
Adding to previous replies, the main point of Bentley’s op/ed is arguing for the destruction of the Dnieper’s many bridges where he goes to the extreme of accusing Putin of lying. At this forum, that argument’s been going back and forth for a year, so let’s review. What’re the two stated SMO goals? To demilitarize and deNazify Ukraine. What’s the most recent political addition to those goals? I explained that @28 above. Now the question becomes, Does downing the bridges enhance or deter the SMO’s goals? The consensus here is that downing the bridges would deter the speed with which the goals can be attained by slowing the flow of men and material into the FEBA Meatgrinder where they’re easily destroyed. Downing the bridges would force Russia to cross the river to attain its SMO goals at far greater cost to Russia. Yes, there’s some credence to Bentley’s argument related to the safety of Donbas cities. But for that to be taken seriously, Ukraine would need to have the ability to hide the required substantial attacking force, which in this day-and-age is essentially impossible, and which affects Russian capabilities too. (Please see this excellent article for excellent info on that issue.)
Furthermore, dropping the bridges would also be helpful to Ukraine as Russia will eventually march to the Dnieper to cross it and go beyond into Western Ukraine. so, on the bridges, Russia’s General Staff might change its mind, but I rather doubt it will.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 3 2023 21:06 utc | 56

There will be no Ukrainian counter offensive. Once Artyomovsk is completely liberated, the Ukrainian frontline will collapse very quickly.

Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Apr 3 2023 21:06 utc | 57

And when it comes time to invade Finland, it will be a pushover just like 1939.
Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Apr 3 2023 17:26 utc | 7
Finland’s current grey-faced drug addicts hold little resemblance to their great grandparents who fought in 1939. They’ll fight and die, of course, for the their western masters, like they’ve done for the past 500 years (swedes, nazis, and now swedes and nazis together). Many of them are probably lacing their boots in excitement already, imagining themselves camouflaged in the snow with a rifle, easily picking off enemy soldiers, going all the way to the Urals this time. There’s a surprising number of men in Finland who never found any meaning in life except the army. Something particularly comforting, I assume, for a genotype defined by autism, loneliness, lack of imagination, crudeness, dullness, social aversion, lack of empathy, and an utter blind faith in authority figures.
Only this time there’s no homeland to defend, no women to protect (both have been whored off to the west and its satanism), and unlike 1939, the opponent will treat this as more than just an insignificant little skirmish.

Posted by: Mike | Apr 3 2023 21:09 utc | 58

@Timewilltell #29
Lovely – a few more
Cuban https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z3bl9NMrYM
Irish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZAGer1c-fI
Brazilian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSsUDOpzYOs
Original American https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=444JSd9tMkc
Tagalog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7EyDMrfp1s
Very multi-cultural bar today …

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 3 2023 21:09 utc | 59

@ james | Apr 3 2023 20:44 utc | 50
RHS is probably taking a break for one or two reasons:
– He grew tired of covering the same issues, in absence of substantial new real-world developments. (IMHO, I agreed with him. But, in the past 2 weeks, “decades” are happening on the diplomatic front.)
– He was annoyed by shadowbanned’s posts and a small number of people (me) engaging with shadowbanned (because, for me, while I agree with RHS and most regulars here on almost everything, I think I learn something from shadowbanned’s posts).
In case it’s “more #2 than #1”, sorry for (hopefully “temporarily”) robbing you of RHS contributions.

Posted by: natokraine | Apr 3 2023 21:11 utc | 60

How could 80,000 Ukrainian troops, without air support and with inferior arty, do what 200,000 Russians can’t with superior firpower and air superiority?
Only if Russian withdrew voluntarily like in Kherson – with little reason it has to be confessed …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 3 2023 21:12 utc | 61

Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Apr 3 2023 21:06 utc | 57
Recent reports coming from Zelensky also indicate that he set “yet” more reinforcements to the vicinity of Bakhmut – and yet again talking about the counter-attack – around Bakhmut.
Wagner hopes to take the western parts of Bakhmut before any counter-offensive. I’m not sure what the weather currently and forecasted to be – it might be actually more or less solid ground quite soon. If the temperature is permanently positive celcius and any mud drying up in the sun and ice melts.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 3 2023 21:06 utc | 56
Everyone has their own opinion on these bridges over Dnieper, but I tend to agree to the extent that laws of universe dictate that the further west Russia goes to fight UAF, less logistical advantage they will have. The same applies in reverse for Nato-Ukraine. That’s a fact and most likely one that hasn’t been omitted in planning.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 21:15 utc | 62

Posted by: Mike | Apr 3 2023 21:09 utc | 58
Two good things about Finland: they have saunas and women don’t know how to say no … I knew once one who thought she had land in – Russian – Carelia …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 3 2023 21:16 utc | 63

Anthony | Apr 3 2023 20:51 utc | 52
You are correct in that life is important in both war and peace; and that these are different times calling for different solutions. However, there is a difference between a path of retreat and path for surrender. I’m not certain that those who follow an open path for retreat will lose their courage, and if they do they’ll be fed back into the meat grinder, courage or not.
What seems to be needed is a formal path/mechanism for surrender that those throughout Ukraine can follow; to escape from the battlefield and from forced mobilization. One that can help the average Ukrainian (both military and civilian) tired of this mess to leave, even if that be a POW camp.
Perhaps, there are such paths out for the Ukrainians. I don’t know. DI don’t even know if the average Ukrainian wants to fight or leave.

Posted by: Jerr | Apr 3 2023 21:18 utc | 64

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 3 2023 21:06 utc | 56
Thank God for your sane, wise presence here. I wonder if you know what a tremendous public service you are doing – and moreover doing so with such patience, knowledge and forbearance.

Posted by: Mexicana | Apr 3 2023 21:20 utc | 65

@ Ed | Apr 3 2023 19:04 utc | 37
Everyone should read the article, but I do have a bone to pick the author [Roger McKenzie], and with Counterpunch…
LOL. I haven’t read Counterpunch in years, and your insightful critique is quite effectively de-motivating. Thanks.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 3 2023 21:20 utc | 66

Everyone has their own opinion on these bridges over Dnieper, but I tend to agree to the extent that laws of universe dictate that the further west Russia goes to fight UAF, less logistical advantage they will have. The same applies in reverse for Nato-Ukraine. That’s a fact and most likely one that hasn’t been omitted in planning.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 21:15 utc | 62

Unless Putin, Gerasimov and Shoigu are traitors, the only explication left is that the offering of battle in Donbass is meant to lure not only UAF but as well NATO forces into some big fire bag/pocket.
Where is the Russian army after all?
Obvious weakness of the Russian military might be too alluring to NATO Headquarters to resist to give them the “coup de grace” in Donbass, with all the glory and riches to reap.
So go, go, go!

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 3 2023 21:27 utc | 67

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 3 2023 21:12 utc | 61
Russian forces were superior to the native Ukraine army, they are not so superior to the current NATO backed Army. NATO is a formidable opponent, on every front, and people that complan about the slow-mo SMO do not appreciate what Russia is doing here and at what cost.
Most of the information out there, even political statements, are there in function of the information War which is an extension of the real War going on. So dont believe that Ukraine is depleted or that NATO has no ammo or that German industry has collapsed. It is there to make people overconfident and provoke mistakes.
NATO backed forces can make significant progress and inflict damage.
We in the West are in War-mode ever since February last year. State propaganda is allowed, arrests can be done without due process if connected to the War effort, informational War against opponents is allowed, false opposition to tame the masses etc. That this place still exists is only a confirmation that it is not that influential. We are just a bunch of nobodies commenting about the propaganda all day.

Posted by: alek_a | Apr 3 2023 21:33 utc | 68

A few weeks ago Ukraine announced a new 500k mobilization over 4 months. This is to replace losses and build up 1st wave cannon foddet for offensive. It most likely will be temporarily enough to achieve a surge in troop numbers, but maybe a short-lived one.

A recent demographic analysis, published on my VK page, shows ~ 50,000 male & a like number of female 20 year olds in Ukraine. This is prime military age. Other age groupings are similarly depleted.
The coming spring Ukie offensive is a myth….
They don’t have the man power.
As for all those forces moving to the contact line. My bet is they will be identified as they mass, and will be decimated at their start line(s).
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Apr 3 2023 21:34 utc | 69

[ Album ]
More videos that were filmed during the repulse of the repeated attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the positions of the Armed Forces in the Zaporozhye direction. The first attempt on March 15 was also unsuccessful.
On the frames, spot work by ATGMs on enemy equipment. In the second video, the Ukrainian cargo 300 is trying to move away from the battlefield in a pickup truck in an organized manner.
https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/27603
Another ukro recon-in-force blown up near Zap. Or was this the main dish? Who knows, there are already so many promises this and last year. Actually this particular souther offensive has been promised ever since Russians walked out of Kherson in October.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 21:37 utc | 70

That´s true for explicitly Russian territory.
But Russia and Japan haven´t signed a Peace Treaty to formally end WW2.
The Cairo and Potsdam declarations limited Japan to its home territory “not gained by violence nor greed” i.e. before the Imperial project launched in 1890. Thus Taiwan, Sakhalin, Korea, Micronesia, Manchuria, etc., etc. were returned to their former owners.
The Kurils and the Ryukyus were peacefully part of Japan before their imperialist gamble.
Both were occupied after WW2, the Kurils by the Russians and the Ryukyus by the Americans.
There is obviously no incentive for the Russians to return the Kurils as long as the Americans occupy the Ryukyus (and, effectively, all of Japan).
That´s why Abe tried to steer Japan away from America, end the occupation by America and return of the Kurils via a Peace Treaty with Russia.
For that endeavour, he was assassinated by the CIA last year.
Posted by: John Marks | Apr 3 2023 20:52 utc | 54

No Russian leader in his right mind will ever return the Kurils.
If Russia cedes the southern Kurils to Japan, the Okhotsk Sea turns from a Russian lake into wide open for everyone area. And with that another staging area for attack of Siberia will be created.
In fact, back in 1945 the Russians were very seriously considering invading Hokkaido, which would have sealed it even more tightly. Japan might have ended up split in two the way Korea was. But Japan getting nuked by the US and surrendering did not leave any time for that plan to be carried out.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 3 2023 21:40 utc | 71

@Jerr
Big difference between Bakhmut and Stalingrad. It was one HELL of a lot colder in Stalingrad in December and January than it is in Bakhmut in March and April.
Red Army didnt really need to close with the Germans at all. Just let the cold and lack of adequate nutrition kill them. And cold that brutal, especially for invaders who really weren’t dressed properly, destroys ones will to live let alone fight

Posted by: Callmelennie | Apr 3 2023 21:41 utc | 72

Russian forces were superior to the native Ukraine army, they are not so superior to the current NATO backed Army. NATO is a formidable opponent, on every front, and people that complan about the slow-mo SMO do not appreciate what Russia is doing here and at what cost.
Posted by: alek_a | Apr 3 2023 21:33 utc | 68

The main complaint is that precisely because this is such a serious foe, the war should be fought accordingly, i.e. much more actively and seriously, and it is not.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 3 2023 21:42 utc | 73

In a article in todays Counterpunch, Roger McKenzie, a reporter for the Morning Star, and the general secretary of Liberation, one of the oldest UK human rights organizations, writes a fairly decent commentary about the stated United States policy since 1997, known as “Full Spectrum Dominance (FSD).”
According to McKenzie, the United States behaves the way that it does on the international stage in order to safeguarding the profits of monopoly capital, which carries politicians in Washington around in its pockets like loose change.

Could have learned that from what people were writing a century ago. It was all there.
But has been forgotten.
A somewhat popular saying the collapse of the USSR goes like this:
“Everything they taught us about communism might have been false, but everything they said about capitalism is true”

Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 3 2023 21:44 utc | 74

#1
#29
#59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKURhqmSLmM

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 3 2023 21:46 utc | 75

Posted by: alek_a| 68
Sheesh, what a typical trooper you are, thinking NATO’s soldiers are better. The only thing they are better at is making ultra-expensive and short-lived warmongering equipment. We in the West are not at all in war-mode, just mostly financing this NATO proxy war and sending our old equipment, even museum pieces to Ukraine.
Obviously US and some of the EU countries who have legislated (woke-ism) hate thoughts and crimes did that to put their political enemies behind bars. Macron got called out, but the lady also did not hide her identity and for that she got 11 months?

Posted by: Arcticman | Apr 3 2023 21:48 utc | 76

The Russian Armed Forces began to destroy the rear areas of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: the video shows hits of missiles (or planning bombs) on the Balashovka railway station in Kharkov. It is she who is viewed on the video from the side of the automobile bridge along the street. Plekhanovskaya.
https://twitter.com/GraphicW5/status/1643003478522966016

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 21:52 utc | 77

Could it possibly be that we are in the middle of Zelensky’s spring offensive, but no one noticed ?
Good night all.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 3 2023 21:55 utc | 78

@ shadowbanned, §71:
Yeh, I´m sure the Americans hope that´s the case because Japan teaming up with Russia in the East would be as much a nightmare as their perennial fear of Germany teaming up with Russia in the West.
The Americans know that a realistic promise of the return of the Kurils to Japan would be enough to lure the Japanese into kicking the Americans out of the Ryukyus.
Since the return of the Kurils would include alliance with Russia and Japanese investment in development of the Russian Far East, this would end any threat to Russia from America: they wouldn´t have to worry about guarding the Sea of Okhotsk (Yezokai) because the Japanese would do that for them.
Interestingly, in 1956 Russia negotiated the return of the southern group (Kunashir, Iturup & Urup) and the Americans immediately forbade it, ordering the Japanese to claim more, which the Americans knew Russia would refuse . . .

Posted by: John Marks | Apr 3 2023 21:57 utc | 79

@Apollyon | Apr 3 2023 21:46 utc | 75
I rate the Liam Clancy version as the finest … of Waltzing Matilda ..
The horrors of war …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFCekeoSTwg
That said, I do have time for The Pogues … when in the mood

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 3 2023 22:03 utc | 80

Feck the Fascists ….
Christy Moore – Viva la Quinta Brigada. Live at Barrowland Glasgow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQbXO828Vio
Looks like Monday night is music night at the bar … check your diaries and take Tuesday morning off … could be a late night!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 3 2023 22:10 utc | 81

@Don Firineach
Outstanding performance by Liam Clancy.

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 3 2023 22:11 utc | 82

https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/z-blogger-assassinated-by-bomb-in
Cannot vouch for this source (or any anywhere for that matter!) but here is an interesting synopsis of pro and anti SMO sentiment in Russia in relation to a recent assassination of a blogger who was friendly with, but of late increasingly critical of, Putin.

He was friendly with the Kremlin and was invited to Putin’s speeches, including the one announcing the annexation of LDNR. He did, however, criticize the Kremlin like pretty much all war-bloggers in Russia do for fighting the war badly and ineffectively. Despite his occasional criticism, he was part of the “optimist” camp.
Here, I ought to explain the two dominant views on the war among the Russian war bloggers. In short, the optimists believe that the war is being fought badly and that the leadership made many mistakes, but that victory is still within Russia’s grasp. For the longest time, I was firmly in this camp. This comes off as strange to the Westerner because they are not aware of any constructive criticisms whatsoever of the Kremlin because they only read people like Lira, Saker, Macgregor, Ritter and other mindless cheerleaders. I am the only English voice that I am aware of providing this perspective. But criticism of the war effort is so mainstream in Russia now that it even gets voiced on the state media by guests with increasing frequency. In the West though, this kind of talk gets interpreted as being pro-NAFO/NATO propaganda, naturally.
Now, the pessimists believe that the war is being fought badly and that the leadership are traitors or that a significant portion of them are – enough to sabotage the war effort anyways. I have come around to this view in recent months myself. And the pessimists did not like Tatarsky because they viewed him as a sell-out and a gatekeeper personality in the same way that we would view media figures like Steven Crowder or Ben Shapiro as ideological gatekeepers keeping the American masses pacified with siren songs of voting harder and convincing Messicans to vote Republican. But this characterization is a bit too harsh because while Tatarsky’s brand of patriotism was indeed the kind that was acceptable to the Kremlin, it was also probably what he more-or-less believed in himself anyways, organically.
Either way, moderating his views and making friends with the Kremlin did not save him….
[then some interesting speculations]
Who knows. I don’t want to spread disinfo. All I know is that:
–they didn’t catch Dugina’s killer and that there were also several culprits fingered in the early hours of that event as well.
–there are cameras everywhere in both Moscow and St. Petersburg
–either the FSB is criminally incompetent or …
**
Now here is the interesting part where we start speculating about what really went down and why.
So, Tatarsky was friendly with the Kremlin, but also able to criticize the war effort on occasion.
Could it have been in someone’s interests to eliminate this potential source of conflicting information piercing through the Kremlin’s echo chamber?
We know that Moscow and Kiev have not touched one another’s elites. There are no targeted strikes on key decision-makers in Ukraine – politicians, NATO officers, Ukrainian command, spooks and so on are off-limits. And the same detente appears to be in place vis-a-vis Moscow as well.
Could it be that Kiev knows it can kill Z-patriots with impunity so long as they do not touch Moscow’s elites?
We know that most of Moscow’s elites are sweating bullets and want the war to deescalate now that it is clear that Russia is losing. There are also such people in Ukraine and even in the West. A face-saving peace is possible and clearly desired by powerful people on both sides.
Could it be that this was a deliberate escalation to make peace talks harder?
Also, Ukraine considers former Ukrainians fair game and kills them all the time. Russia does not respond in kind, effectively giving Kiev carte blanche to kill pro-Russians in Ukraine.
Case in point: there was yet another assassination bombing in Novorussia today. The former head of the administration in the region, Maksim Zubarev, got hit with a planted car bomb and rushed to the hospital, but is probably already dead.
One thing is for sure: Russia sure does a bad job of taking care of its supporters.
The Kremlin seems to be able to take care of its own though.

These two things are not the same.

I don’t know what is up or down in Ukraine/Russia etc. But am increasingly of the view that regarding everything to do with the Outlaw US Empire is irredeemably wicked and everything to do with Russia and China as angelically pure is extremist thinking, therefore bound to be quite wrong.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 3 2023 22:18 utc | 83

⚡️ Ukrainian sources report explosions in Druzhkovka and Konstantinovka (under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces). An air alert has been declared in the southern and eastern regions of Ukraine .
⚡️A powerful explosion is reported in Odessa
Air raid alert in Odessa was not announced
@Slavyangrad

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 22:24 utc | 84

alek_a | Apr 3 2023 21:33 utc | 68
“Most of the information out there, even political statements, are there in function of the information War which is an extension of the real War going on.”
Absolutely. Ukraine would have no hope without western aid, so keeping western opinion in line is as important to the war’s sponsors as the battlefront. Hence the anti-Putin stuff, the ‘Russian atrocity’ stuff, and the ‘Ukraine are winning’ stuff.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 3 2023 22:24 utc | 85

Who are those two dancing on the bar …. must see this one … it is music night
Riverdance at the Eurovision Song Contest 30 April 1994, Dublin [8 mins]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0v_pu6miJ8

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 3 2023 22:26 utc | 86

James @50
RSH is manic-depressive. He’s what we call a “long cycler”, in that the span between his peaks and lows is weeks, or even months.
The condition is not what most people imagine. The “manic” phase can be characterized by brilliant, almost superhuman productivity (not always, but RSH certainly rises to that at times). The “depressive” phase doesn’t necessarily mean moping about navel-gazing and feeling sorry for oneself (though it can) but is more often characterized by low energy and difficulty engaging.
The treatment for manic-depression evens out the lows at the cost of destroying the highs. For many sufferers whose highs put them into the top 1% of human capabilities, that trade off isn’t worth it.
It’s a bitch of a disorder since for some it comes with a kick-ass gift. RSH is suffering the price for that gift right now, but don’t worry, he’ll be back after he “recharges”.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 3 2023 22:27 utc | 87

james@50….troll shock, not unlike shell shock, except one must force oneself to stop banging one’s head against the wall.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 3 2023 22:28 utc | 88

Thanks for the responses. We’ll see what happens!

Posted by: Martin Holsinger | Apr 3 2023 22:33 utc | 89

And when it comes time to invade Finland, it will be a pushover just like 1939.
Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Apr 3 2023 17:26 utc | 7

It wasn’t a pushover in 1939.
It might be now — after the decades of decadent prosperity have taken their toll.
But most importantly, there will be no invasion, or at least not for a while.
In Ukraine Russia cares about the land and the people.
In a hypothetical war with Finland, it will only care about the land, and not for growing food (not that you can grow much in Finland), but purely in terms of military control. And we know what that means.
P.S. You will often see it commented that the Russian Empire expanded to such an enormous size by mostly fighting in order to ensure its own defense rather than with imperialistic goals, usually done to “expose Russian hypocrisy”.
But there is a lot of truth to it. It’s not absolutely true — e.g. Siberia and the Far East were taken in the quest towards expanding the fur trade profits. But it is true for a lot of the expansion in the southern and western directions. Crimea is a classic example — it is very trendy to decry the fate of the Crimean Tatars, but the historic reality is that a major reason Russia took control of that area was because it was inhabited by slave traders who were selling Slavs to the Ottomans, and end had to be put to that. And then in the aftermath WWII they were deported because they collaborated with the Nazis.
A lot of the early expansion was for defensive purposes — in the wide open Eastern European plane it is an eat-or-be-eaten situation. The only stable condition is for someone to control it all.
In the 19th century, when it was a serious consolidated empire, establishing defensible borders was a very explicit motivation — thus the push in the Caucasus area and the conquest of Central Asia all the way to the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan.
This is also why the Russian empire, later the USSR, and now Russia were so multi-ethnic — there was never any motivation to do settler colonialism with extermination of the locals and repopulation of their land. Which is what the Anglo-Saxons did everywhere they went and weren’t met with tropical diseases more formidable than their weapons. Control of the land for defensive purposes was sufficient. Later than turned out to be a major weakness though — it’s a big reason the USSR collapsed.
Now here is the problem for the current realities. A “defensible border” in the 19th century, a world without nukes and long-range standoff weapons, is not what a defensible border means today. And it has been that way for decades.
The US is protected by oceans and weak neighbors, but Russia is surrounded by hostile actors right on its land borders. So long term it will be secure only if expands to the ocean or the hostile actors around it are no longer hostile. If you look at the map, the Scandinavian peninsula is critical — right now that is NATO controlled, and that means, most importantly, the US subs have a free pass at attacking from the Arctic, which would be much more difficult if that whole area was controlled by Russia. This isn’t even an unprecedented situation — the Swedish Empire got too ambitious back in the days, the Russians defeated it, and that is how they ended up with Finland and the Baltics. But that was before the 19th century and the invention of nationalism, so what people lived there wasn’t a major issue.
So if you are Finland, the Baltics, and even Sweden and Norway, long term you had the following choices:
1) Maintain friendly relationships with Russia and live in peace and harmony
2) Go to war with Russia (as part of a larger coalition, of course) with the hope that you will defeat it once and for all. Which means Generalplan Ost V.2, because even if it is Balkanized as some are dreaming now, it will reassemble eventually for entirely natural reasons, and come back with a vengeance
3) If you go for 2), but fail, Russia will have to one day erase you from the map, and take over. It is not going to be Putin in power forever, someone much more decisive may come one day. Perhaps with a mustache and a pipe in his hand.
Option 1) should have been the obvious choice, but no, they just can’t help themselves…
Finnish Russophobia is a particularly interesting example. Sweden fought a lot of wars with Russia back in the days, and was destroyed as a major power as a result of those. It’s understandable in their case. But Finland? Why? First, there had never been any tradition of Finnish statehood at all until Russia took over those lands from the Swedes. There would have been no Finland without that — the Swedes didn’t treat the Finns very well (they are not the same at all — Germanic Indo-European vs. Finno-Ugric people, the languages have absolutely nothing in common, etc.) and would have assimilated them eventually. Then there is the Russian Civil War, and yes, the Bolsheviks tried to recover Finland, but what is “Russia” to blame for here? That land was part of the empire previously, it was natural to recover it, and the Bolsheviks didn’t intend to Russify the Finns at all — that was still when they were in the “world revolution” phase, and korenization policies would follow shortly within what they controlled. The Winter War is usually presented as unprovoked aggression, but it really wasn’t — it was known Finland would ally with the Nazis, Leningrad was truly indefensible with the old borders, and they were offered double the land elsewhere in exchange. Quite reasonable on balance. Especially given what happened shortly after that –Finnish Nazis invaded and sieged Leningrad, and it would have probably fallen had it not been for the border having been moved as a result of that previous war. Then when WWII ended Finland wasn’t disappeared from the map, even though it could have been, but made neutral and enjoyed the benefits of trading with both sides and living in peace. Why would you throw all that away and seriously jeopardize your existence in the long term just for the sake of satisfying your primitive urge to feel racially superior towards your neighbors to the east?

Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 3 2023 22:40 utc | 90

Mark2 @78. I think we might be yes. Good night!

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Apr 3 2023 22:43 utc | 91

Interestingly, in 1956 Russia negotiated the return of the southern group (Kunashir, Iturup & Urup) and the Americans immediately forbade it, ordering the Japanese to claim more, which the Americans knew Russia would refuse . . .
Posted by: John Marks | Apr 3 2023 21:57 utc | 79

1956 was before SLBMs and modern ship-launched cruise missiles.
It is much more critical to control the whole island chain now.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 3 2023 22:44 utc | 92

Don@80. Wow, what an extraordinary rendition of this song. Bordering on angry I would say. Brings home the true horrors of war.

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Apr 3 2023 22:52 utc | 93

In response to Pacifica_Advocate@30,
I don’t know. This oft repeated maxim always struck me as being primarily applicable to combat situations where failure in battle inevitably meant certain death for the troops and it would appear that the very notion of soldiers laying down their arms and staying alive was never factored into the equation. Surrounded troops might fight to the death, but I’d expect that it’s far more likely that they, eventually, negotiate terms for surrender, if given the opportunity to do so.
In any case, I think there are more immediate and practical considerations at play when opting for a partial encirclement. For one, as in the case with Artemovsk, if you are able to intercept supplies and reinforcements somewhat effectively, you potentially get to destroy more enemy forces and equipment on the move than you’ve trapped in the cauldron to begin with. AFU even attempted to rotate troops in and out of the encirclement, part of which got destroyed along the way every time. In some cases, they got completely wiped out.
With a full encirclement, you wouldn’t have this sort of turkey-shoot from both flanks on troops who aren’t in a position to shoot back. Instead, you’d have all of these reinforcements flanking your troops while they’re trying to prevent break-out attacks, since a good few of your positions would be sandwiched between enemy positions. Your troops would also be locked where they are, unable to reposition without potentially breaking the encirclement or getting themselves surrounded. The front would have to be moved far past the intended cauldron to avoid this situation, as it was with Azovstahl, and you’d have to dedicate part of your front-line troops to keeping the enemy in the cauldron while the front moves on without them.
So it ends up being a big commitment for a fairly static paycheck, whereas with the door open you leave it to your opponent to decide how big the pot gets and how much you’re willing to stake.

Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 3 2023 22:55 utc | 94

@ John Marks, 44
I think you are viewing the current Japanese government far too optimistically. I’ve had several Japanese friends tell me bluntly that the current government is just a bunch of fascists looking to resurrect the colonial-era mentality of “Japan Uber Alles”. Abe and his clique certainly view both Taiwan and South Korea as “younger brothers” who should follow Japan’s lead. “Making nice with China” is nothing but good business.
If Abe and his group really did want to split with the US, they’d need to get rid of the US bases in Okinawa, but there’s no talk of that at any level. Instead, we’re seeing them try to grow the US military presence and increase cooperation.
Abe was killed by a guy with a very crude home-made gun for which his security detail simply wasn’t prepared. There are no civilian firearms in Japan except among the police and criminal underworld–an underworld that is well-integrated into the total political governance of the country. While I am skeptical of the US’s official story on the Kennedy assassination, in the case of Abe’s assassination it really doesn’t look like anything more than a crazy guy who had an imagined grudge.
If it had been a CIA op the weapon used would have been guaranteed to kill the guy, but that was simply not the case. It was a crazy guy with a crazy weapon who simply got lucky, from my perspective.
@ Jerr | 46
Stalingrad is the exception rather than the rule. Bernard, here, has pointed out that Russian artillery currently has the single road leading into / out of Bakhmut under full fire control. I watched a video yesterday where I saw five (!) Ukrainian APCs get wiped out while attempting to travel that road. The last one to be destroyed got sent to heaven after it turned around and tried to flee back the way it had come.
At Stalingrad, the Soviet military was fighting a defensive retreat and had serious problems with re-supply of pretty much everything. It was necessary to cut the Germans off from their supply lines in order to even the playing field.
At Bakhmut, the Russians have the upper hand and there’s simply no reason for them to advance into the devastation and try to occupy what they have now spent several months systematically destroying. It’s a wasteland. I noted in the NYTimes, today, that the Americans are saying the advance has “stalled”–even while the lines around Bakhmut (and Avdiivka, Ugledar, etc) are clearly advancing at a steady rate. Apparently, the “advance has stalled” because…the Russians aren’t moving in to occupy the devastated areas where there is little-to-no defensive cover. To my mind, that is simple War 101: if you’ve destroyed fortifications and there is nothing there to hide behind, don’t move into the area and try to hold it. Go around it, keep your big guns trained on the area, and don’t let anyone else move in or out.
The only way for people to “move out” is if you leave a corridor open for them. The Russians used the same tactic, repeatedly–routinely, even–in Syria, to great effect. The goal isn’t really to kill all the “bad guys”; the goal is to win the war so you can force your political will upon the losers. Forcing your enemy to fight to the last man is best avoided, simply because men–like any animal–will fight far more fiercely when cornered.

Posted by: Pacifica_Advocate | Apr 3 2023 22:55 utc | 95

Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 3 2023 22:55 utc | 94
Prigozhin actually made a comment today that it was actually Surovikin, who designed the “Bakhmut meat grinder” concept in the first place.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2023 22:59 utc | 96

The pro-NATO MSM propaganda narrative in UK continues unabated.
Clearly – The elites are sweating as it becomes clear that their slavish support for USA/NATO is cracking and unsustainable.
In the UK main opposition party (the Labour Party) soundings of influential local members are taking place as to how the war in Ukraine should end.
This does matter as party-leader Starmer is a member of the Trilateral Commission.
He is widely seen as a quisling shit and a fifth-columnist in the Labour Party – But he is one of Empire’s key players in the UK.
Let’s work to ensure that wedges can be driven into the cracks.

Posted by: Engineer-John | Apr 3 2023 23:05 utc | 97

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 3 2023 21:06 utc | 56
Thank God for your sane, wise presence here. I wonder if you know what a tremendous public service you are doing – and moreover doing so with such patience, knowledge and forbearance.
Posted by: Mexicana | Apr 3 2023 21:20 utc | 65
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I second the motion.
There are a few others who belong on the same list. I will add them up and post it as a small token of appreciation.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 3 2023 23:18 utc | 98

In response to unimperator@96,
He may have designed it, but his design wouldn’t work without the willing participation of Ukrainian commanders or Western advisors, whoever is calling the shots on the Ukrainian side. Though I suppose there might be some factor of inevitability not readily apparent to me for why they keep feeding the grinder with fresh meat.

Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 3 2023 23:23 utc | 99

@ Jo Dominich | Apr 3 2023 22:52 utc | 93 &
@ Apollyon | Apr 3 2023 22:11 utc | 82
Glad you appreciated it. Bob Dylan regarded Liam Clancy as the finest balladeer he had ever heard. So do I.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 3 2023 23:24 utc | 100