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April 2, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-79
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Re-Posted from tail end of previous Ukraine thread …
@Outraged Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 13:36 utc | 2 Chicken bones on the floor Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 2 2023 13:56 utc | 3 Outraged, thanks for that summary – very informative. The reply of @2 is worthless. I love your posts, they are to the point, highly informative and worth the read. Keep up the good work!! Posted by: Jo Dominich | Apr 2 2023 14:12 utc | 4 Re: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 13:36 utc | 2 Posted by: Julian | Apr 2 2023 14:18 utc | 5
Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 14:30 utc | 6 Hungarian President on threat of nuclear war . “It is not an exaggeration” Posted by: Dave Oneil | Apr 2 2023 14:32 utc | 7
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40094 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 14:32 utc | 8 Posted by: Jo Dominich | Apr 2 2023 14:12 utc | 4 Posted by: Marduck | Apr 2 2023 14:33 utc | 9 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 14:30 utc | 7
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/52031
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40086 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 14:37 utc | 10 @ Jo Dominich | Apr 2 2023 14:12 utc | 4
Precision guidance FAB glide bomb detonates on the position of servants of the Kiev regime from Russian Aerospace Forces. Spectacular. TG clip. 9s. Big-bada-boom. Scott Ritter just stated that he gives Nuclear War with a complete destruction of life on earth a 70% chance. Posted by: Turk 152 | Apr 2 2023 14:47 utc | 12 the footage of the lady praying being mocked on the street has certainly created a closing of ranks among the world. harking back to old paintings of devils tormenting the righteous. i guess the religious persecution was low hanging fruit , the symbolism is powerful, Posted by: hankster | Apr 2 2023 14:54 utc | 13
There won’t be complete destruction of life, even humans will likely survive in the southern hemisphere at the very least, but yes, right now, under current policies, nuclear war is where things are headed. Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 15:04 utc | 14 @ hankster | Apr 2 2023 14:54 utc | 15 @ Down South | Apr 2 2023 14:32 utc | 9 Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 2 2023 15:21 utc | 16 Surprised no one here has remarked on the situation In Bakhmut. Posted by: Chris | Apr 2 2023 15:21 utc | 17 Re: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 13:36 utc | 2 Posted by: Urban Fox | Apr 2 2023 15:27 utc | 18 @ Chris | Apr 2 2023 15:21 utc | 20 Posted by: Urban Fox | Apr 2 2023 15:27 utc | 21 Posted by: Milites | Apr 2 2023 15:36 utc | 20 @2 to be sure though russia is at least aware this year no one is afraid of them anymore and if they want to hold or even win, they will have the hold current lines. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 2 2023 15:36 utc | 21 Posted by: Chris | Apr 2 2023 15:21 utc | 20
Posted by: Mike R | Apr 2 2023 15:38 utc | 22 “The US State Department says Secretary of State Antony Blinken urged his Russian counterpart, in a rare phone call since the start of the Ukraine war, to immediately release detained Americans.” Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 2 2023 15:50 utc | 23 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 2 2023 15:36 utc | 24 Posted by: Milites | Apr 2 2023 15:50 utc | 24 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 2 2023 15:36 utc | 21 Posted by: Milites | Apr 2 2023 16:01 utc | 25 Blinken is upset because Gershkovich was caught red handed spying (collecting restricted data) as was another American Paul Whelan. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 2 2023 16:02 utc | 26 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 2 2023 15:36 utc | 21 Posted by: Golddiggr | Apr 2 2023 16:03 utc | 27
Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 16:04 utc | 28
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/52098 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 16:08 utc | 29 “On March 31, Russian President Vladimir Putin approved the country’s updated Foreign Policy Concept, which says that Moscow can use its armed forces to prevent and repel attacks on Russia and its allies.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 2 2023 16:11 utc | 30 shadowbanned @ 14
The humans that survive will get eaten by the starving rats and roaches who will then perish themselves since they can’t live without us. Doom loop of existence. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 2 2023 16:18 utc | 31 For those that are suffering from the delusion, or are paid to spout shit about Ukraine winning the war. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 2 2023 16:19 utc | 32 re: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 15:04 utc | 16 Posted by: Steven Starr | Apr 2 2023 16:19 utc | 33 The absurdity of the ICC, and its ludicrous arrest warrant for Putin is only compounded by the knowledge that Russia has taken over the presidency of the UN Security Council. The ICC has no real credibility if it did Bush and Blair would be in prison by now. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 2 2023 16:25 utc | 34 She hid the IED in a figurine, which she presented to military commander Vladlen Tatarsky, who died as a result of the terrorist attack. Posted by: rk | Apr 2 2023 16:27 utc | 35 I should have mentioned that the criteria for launch in the Perimetr system also includes the requirement that the complete loss of communication with the NCA must occur during the specified time that the attack is expected to occur. In other words, this is not an open-ended authorization, it has to meet specific time parameters. Posted by: Steven Starr | Apr 2 2023 16:30 utc | 36 rk 35 Posted by: hankster | Apr 2 2023 16:34 utc | 37 $31.7 billion dollars thrown away in Ukraine, if I were an American taxpayer I’d be furious with Biden and his administration, I’ve read that US infrastructure bridges, roads etc aren’t in great shape, this money could’ve been invested in that instead of being thrown away in a far off land to appease the US industrial military complex. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 2 2023 16:38 utc | 38 The St. Petersburg attack seems to be a calculated provocation aimed at escalation. There’s no chance the Russian population will be “terrorized” by such acts, indeed quite the opposite. Posted by: liveload | Apr 2 2023 16:41 utc | 39 @Posted by: liveload | Apr 2 2023 16:41 utc | 39 Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 2 2023 16:55 utc | 41 @ Shadowbanned Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 2 2023 16:59 utc | 42 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 16:08 utc | 29 Posted by: _newbie_ | Apr 2 2023 16:59 utc | 43 Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 2 2023 16:55 utc | 42
So you saying these are all false flags planted by Russians? Posted by: hopehely | Apr 2 2023 17:12 utc | 44 There’s no chance the Russian population will be “terrorized” by such acts Posted by: rk | Apr 2 2023 17:13 utc | 45 @Down South | Apr 2 2023 16:08 utc | 29
I do not think “Vladlen Tatarsky” was a military commander, more like a war correspondent. This was his Telegram channel. Many Russian Telegram channels are now showing this video:
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 2 2023 17:21 utc | 46 @rk Posted by: liveload | Apr 2 2023 17:22 utc | 47 The United States is trying really hard to provoke the Russians into making a bad move. Posted by: Passerby | Apr 2 2023 17:23 utc | 48 the nazis get unlimited retries for anything they want to do and zero consequences for any failure. Posted by: rjb1.5 | Apr 2 2023 17:24 utc | 49 @Posted by: hopehely | Apr 2 2023 17:12 utc | 45 Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 2 2023 17:25 utc | 50 https://twitter.com/mazzenilsson/status/1642572418953670657 Posted by: xor | Apr 2 2023 17:31 utc | 51 Posted by: Dave Oneil | Apr 2 2023 14:32 utc | 7 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Apr 2 2023 17:37 utc | 52 You’ll need to cope after the nazi offensive approaches Melitopol or Soledar and Russia evacuates swathes of territory to “save soldiers’ lives”. Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 13:36 utc | 2 Posted by: B.F.Finlayson | Apr 2 2023 17:37 utc | 53 The Times on the catastrophic demographic consequences of the war for the Ukraine: https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1642413293896716289 Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 2 2023 17:38 utc | 54 The US and its NATO armed arm need Russia to attack now so that to cover for the ongoing financial crash and put a stop to the rearranging of the world countries into non-Western alliances…. Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 2 2023 17:39 utc | 55 The UK Labour party also supports sending DU weapons to Ukraine, the leader of the party the millionaire knight of the realm Sir Keir Starmer, who forced Jeremy Corbyn out of the party, also cleared the men who murdered Charles de Menzes of any wrong doing. Starmer also did everything in his power to keep Assange trapped in the UK, he even threatened the Swedes if they pulled out of the made up accusations against Assange, finally he didn’t prosecute rampant sex beast Jimmy Savile. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 2 2023 17:41 utc | 56 ” he’s always been nothing but a real piece of human shit. like all nationalism, Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 17:54 utc | 57 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 2 2023 17:41 utc | 57 Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 2 2023 17:55 utc | 58 Sputnik: Russian War Correspondent Vladlen Tatarsky Killed in Blast at St. Petersburg Cafe Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 2 2023 18:03 utc | 59 It’s not unheard of with targeted assassinations for the authorities to declare the presumed target dead so as to prevent secondary attempts. Not that I encourage people to get their hopes up, but for what it’s worth. Fomin hasn’t been in the field for a bit, instead providing commentary and analysis together with Rybar on Soloviev, but he clearly wasn’t averse to danger and I doubt he had any fear of death. Вечная память героям. Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 2 2023 18:04 utc | 60 Methane Gold Star, Ozone, Climate, and NordStream Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 2 2023 18:11 utc | 61 Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 17:54 utc | 58 Posted by: hophely | Apr 2 2023 18:12 utc | 62 Re: Kiev-Pechersk Lavra Posted by: Exile | Apr 2 2023 18:12 utc | 63 Re: Catastrophic Demographics Posted by: Exile | Apr 2 2023 18:20 utc | 64 The targeting of journalists, which is what this attack in St Petersburg was, is really tragic and just shows that Ukraine cannot win on the battlefield. So they resort to tactics of Al Qaeda on their enemies. Posted by: Chris | Apr 2 2023 18:21 utc | 65 Correlation might not be sufficient but it is necessary, so make of this what you will: Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 2 2023 18:22 utc | 66
The Counter-Summit for Democracy Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Apr 2 2023 18:25 utc | 67 rk, i hope you don’t work in a rape crisis/counseling center. Posted by: rk | Apr 2 2023 18:25 utc | 68 So today I did a little work, helping out at this artsy off gallery my neighbour is running in Hamburg, Germany – serving beers and actually cooking a hearty meal – when a young woman from Ukraine showed up. She barely whispered her name, Maria, and place of origin (Zhytomir), and that she had an appointment with my colleague/boss, with whom I’ve been in constant and at times explosive disagreement about the war. So when he came in moments later, just to make a point, I stood up, turned to Maria, and said “I am very sorry for what NATO did to your country!” From this point, he could have gone fully nuclear on me, but what happened instead is that he attentatively helped me out in my work for the rest of the day. Maria, meanwhile, got so sad that it transferred telepathically, heartbrakingly. We hugged before she left. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 2 2023 18:34 utc | 69 Re: Ritter’s estimate for nuclear war. Posted by: William Hruff | Apr 2 2023 18:41 utc | 70 The Hopium is on steroids here ar MOA. Posted by: Thim | Apr 2 2023 18:44 utc | 71 ” But not as good as the Slavic Nationalism, the bestest of all nationalismuses. Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 18:45 utc | 72 A man is murdered and whoops, trolls like rk and the ZA+ clade are back again. They can’t hide their glee: another Russian dead! These trolls lack all human decency, one wonders how such characters come to exist. Posted by: Anthony | Apr 2 2023 18:51 utc | 73 “The bridges are still not bombed, proving that Putin had no intention, zero intention, of winning this war.” Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 2 2023 19:04 utc | 74 “destroying the EU” means destroying the organisation called European Union, not destroying the EU member states. Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 2 2023 19:08 utc | 75 Must see Interview (German) Posted by: Nionde | Apr 2 2023 19:08 utc | 76 Ritter’s opinion about inevitability of Nuclear conflict is viable I think….the missing trillions from the defence budgets all over the world are funneled into massive deep underground military bases where the parasite elite expect to weather the coming storm they are initiating….the TeT offensive in Vietnam destroyed the fighting capabilities of the communist military and political wings of South Vietnam….the war from that moment was taken over by Hanoi…with the depopulation of Ukraine and destruction of it as a viable State…the Western puppet State becomes even more dependent and controllable…who knows…there may be massive immigration back to the Khazarian homeland from Israel and Patagonia… NATO has massive forces covertly built up in Poland Latvia and Romania….they are positioning ground support squadrons at this moment….I don’t see a lot of air superiority assets moving so I suspect that once Russian forces move west and in particular towards Odessa NATO will pour East hoping to salvage a Chunk …hoping to occupy Western Ukraine without fighting for it…for later further destabilization operations against Russia’s Western border and more money laundering for the politicians…there will be concurrent operations elsewhere…I had suspected Chinese troops would pour into Siberia….Russia maintains a massive blocking force in the East still. As far as the poor sucks not deep underground when these death cult adherent’s successfully push Russia to an all out nuclear attack to fulfill their sacred writings….it won’t be as bad as Carl Sagan’s nuclear winter but it will be the death of a majority of the Western world. Posted by: Joe | Apr 2 2023 19:08 utc | 77 Anyone have any insight if Gershkovich remained a Russian citizen ? He would have had to formally renounce Russian citizenship, just like we do. It a big pain-in-the-butt-long process to renounce Russian or US citizenship. Posted by: Exile | Apr 2 2023 19:15 utc | 78 Re, amerikan reporter/spy. The amerikans are so evil they actually use medical vaccination teams to spy in third world countries. This has caused distrust of the teams and children not being vaccinated and eradicatable diseases not being eradicated. Pure evil people. Posted by: Bob | Apr 2 2023 19:15 utc | 79 I’m shocked, I followed his Evening Vladlen every day, all I can say is the way he used to finish his programme, “The enemy will be destroyed, victory will be ours”, Rest in peace VladlEn, I’ll miss your evening talk, and let there be no doubt, this is terror and I hope measures are taken to stop it, there is only one way to stop it, the disappearance of the terrorist regime. Posted by: Paco | Apr 2 2023 19:27 utc | 80 Just did a close read of the long WSJ sympathy piece on Gershkovich – It’s very likely he has Russian, Israeli, and US citizenship. Posted by: Exile | Apr 2 2023 19:28 utc | 81 Haven’t been around much lately. Watching this daily gets repetitive. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 2 2023 19:29 utc | 82 If our host has been cooped with an offer he cannot refuse (literally… refusal is not an available option) then what kind of articles will he post here from this point forward? Doom-casting bullshit like what the NAFO (North American Fatties Organization?) trolls post? Regular readers would spot that at once. Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2023 19:36 utc | 83 There´s a real joker writing in the Daily Telegraph. Posted by: John Marks | Apr 2 2023 19:45 utc | 84 the west will strike with nukes first, whether as a false flag or otherwise. they are on the ropes, not russia. they have admitted to wanting to use “tactical” nukes. putin is sane. the west, not so much. Posted by: polarbear4 | Apr 2 2023 19:48 utc | 85 @ B.B. Finlayisan Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 2 2023 19:48 utc | 86 Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2023 19:36 utc | 84 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 2 2023 19:48 utc | 87 @persiflo 70 Posted by: AG | Apr 2 2023 19:49 utc | 88 Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2023 19:36 utc | 84 Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 2 2023 19:53 utc | 89 LoveDonbass @ 88 Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2023 20:01 utc | 90 @Steven Starr 33 Posted by: AG | Apr 2 2023 20:06 utc | 91 Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2023 20:01 utc | 91 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 2 2023 20:09 utc | 92 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 2 2023 19:29 utc | 83 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 2 2023 20:09 utc | 93 re: William Gruff | Apr 2 2023 19:36 utc | 84 Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 2 2023 20:11 utc | 94 Hmm- Posted by: OGDuck | Apr 2 2023 20:12 utc | 95 Perimetr @95: “Are you all sure that is William Gruff?” Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2023 20:23 utc | 96 Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2023 19:36 utc | 84 Posted by: Ed | Apr 2 2023 20:32 utc | 97 Scott Ritter just stated that he gives Nuclear War with a complete destruction of life on earth a 70% chance. Posted by: Mike | Apr 2 2023 20:35 utc | 98 Paco @81– @Steven Starr 33 Posted by: AG | Apr 2 2023 20:52 utc | 100 |
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