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April 1, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-77
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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I cannot help but notice that everyone appears to be ignoring the important post made by Roland | Apr 1 2023 19:07 utc | 49 which concerns Grayzone’s article on the ICC warrant for President Putin Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 2 2023 0:11 utc | 101 ” Nonsense, all Western and Southern Slavs are already firmly incorporated in EU/NATO framework. Majority of Slavic nations are lined up against Russia. The only one that supports Russia is Belarus, but that is basically Russia too. Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 0:14 utc | 102 Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 2 2023 0:07 utc | 100 Posted by: hopehely | Apr 2 2023 0:34 utc | 103 Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 0:14 utc | 103 Posted by: hopehely | Apr 2 2023 0:45 utc | 104 1. Schwere Panzer-Abteilung 504 Posted by: Angelo | Apr 2 2023 0:49 utc | 105 One of the reasons why this war flared up was the Zelensky needed it to save his rapidly declining approval ratings. In this interview Olga Baysha explains what has happened in Ukraine in the past year. Posted by: bevin | Apr 2 2023 0:51 utc | 106 @Angelo – Sorry amigo, I haven’t the foggiest notion what you are trying to say to me. Posted by: LGB! | Apr 2 2023 0:55 utc | 107 More from Olga Baysha: Posted by: bevin | Apr 2 2023 1:02 utc | 108 It all seems so utterly unlikely, but those soldiers, in turn, seem to be so utterly believable. Posted by: Ed | Apr 2 2023 1:17 utc | 109 ALERT re: Deplorable Commissar Posted by: Ed | Apr 2 2023 1:26 utc | 110 ” Are you sure ‘your people’ want to be ‘liberated’? Maybe they are quite happy being ‘occupied’… Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 1:32 utc | 111 ZH has a posting up with the title
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 2 2023 1:40 utc | 112 @ Ken Tucky 2: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 1:41 utc | 113 “I cannot help but notice that everyone appears to be ignoring the important post made by Roland | Apr 1 2023 19:07 utc | 49 which concerns Grayzone’s article on the ICC warrant for President Putin Posted by: Ed | Apr 2 2023 1:41 utc | 114 Bakhmut babuska explains why Ukraine voted for Zelensky. Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 2 2023 1:43 utc | 115 By Russia’s performance on the ground Mr. Ed. There’s a reason why Berhard and Saker decided to disappear. They either got offers they couldn’t refuse or they know whats coming. Posted by: Ed | Apr 2 2023 1:48 utc | 116 ” Has there been a single video of an actual Russian/LDNR “human wave assault” on anybody? ” Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 1:59 utc | 117 This is the closest thing I could find for Russians in a ‘human wave’ Posted by: LGB! | Apr 2 2023 2:12 utc | 118 By Russia’s performance on the ground Mr. Ed. There’s a reason why Berhard and Saker decided to disappear. They either got offers they couldn’t refuse or they know whats coming. Posted by: MiniMo | Apr 2 2023 2:13 utc | 119 @Deplorable Commissar 118: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 2:27 utc | 120 Friendly reminder. Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 2:28 utc | 121 Here is a song by Drudkh. A black metal outfit from 404. I don’t think they’re that bad in terms of black metal, but I far prefer Gorgoroth or Craft. Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 2 2023 2:33 utc | 122 bevin @107 & 109 Posted by: polarbear4 | Apr 2 2023 2:44 utc | 123 @Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 1:59 utc | 118 Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 2 2023 2:45 utc | 124 I want to state appreciation Posted by: Dingo | Apr 2 2023 2:53 utc | 125 ” The only way to judge success from a distance is the overall ‘progress’ and then, Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 2:57 utc | 126 @ Deplorable Commissar | Apr 2 2023 2:57 utc | 127 Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 2 2023 3:08 utc | 127
There is a very realistic scenario in which Russian elites surrender even Crimea.
If they are sure they will eventually have the technical capabilities to destroy the West without taking too much of a hit themselves, then maybe it is indeed for the better (for everyone) if that is what happens. Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 3:11 utc | 128 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Apr 2 2023 3:19 utc | 129 #128 Posted by: Dingo | Apr 2 2023 3:19 utc | 130
First strike has to happen as unexpected as possible, in order to reduce the opponent’s ability to react. Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 3:35 utc | 132 Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2023 21:14 utc | 73 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 3:54 utc | 133
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Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 3:57 utc | 135 There clearly was dissatisfaction on the Russian side to operations. A horde of top brass was fired, and Surovikin was given command.
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Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 4:01 utc | 138
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/51973 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 4:07 utc | 139 @ kupkee 4 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 2 2023 4:08 utc | 140
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/39999 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 4:10 utc | 141 @127 the smo is a strategic victory by securing the land bridge as it stands now. The quality will be improved if they can use secure the annexed boundaries of course. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 2 2023 4:13 utc | 142 @ hopely 105 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 2 2023 4:17 utc | 143 Paul @ 18 121 If you are going to dish out dirt about Patrick Armstrong, the least you could do is buttress your argument with some sources. Yeah, I am sure that (add sarcasm tags here) that the main reason he posted well thought out articles a was that he wanted to make money. Posted by: paxmark1 | Apr 2 2023 5:06 utc | 145 “by: Nate | Apr 2 2023 3:19 utc | 130” Posted by: Dalit | Apr 2 2023 5:32 utc | 146 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 2 2023 4:17 utc | 143 Posted by: hopehely | Apr 2 2023 5:41 utc | 147 @Paul Damascene | Apr 1 2023 17:57 utc | 18 Posted by: MG | Apr 2 2023 5:46 utc | 148 These threads illustrate one thing: that you are all along for the ride. Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 2 2023 6:08 utc | 149 @hopehely 147: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 6:18 utc | 150
Posted by: Catilina | Apr 2 2023 3:59 utc | 137
https://thesaker.is/the-goldilocks-war/ Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 6:18 utc | 151 @paxmark1 1945: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 6:22 utc | 152 https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/51986 Posted by: _newbie_ | Apr 2 2023 6:59 utc | 153 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion_Dollar_Brain Posted by: Squeeth | Apr 2 2023 7:00 utc | 154 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 6:22 utc | 152 Posted by: Surferket | Apr 2 2023 7:01 utc | 155 Hast thou never heard about the Kalergi Plan ????? Posted by: gT | Apr 2 2023 7:03 utc | 156
The current situation is a catastrophic strategic loss. Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 7:26 utc | 157 B-52 bombers are simulating nuclear attacks on St. Petersburg, etc. unthinkable prior to the SMO things. Posted by: rk | Apr 2 2023 7:51 utc | 158 Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 7:26 utc | 157 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 2 2023 7:57 utc | 159 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 2 2023 7:57 utc | 159 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 2 2023 8:04 utc | 160 shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 7:26 utc | 157 Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 2 2023 8:04 utc | 161 @2 Ken Tucky Posted by: Cornelius Pipe | Apr 2 2023 8:11 utc | 162 Cornelius Pipe @ 162 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 2 2023 8:33 utc | 163
Cramming so many oxymorons into a single sentence is quite a feat. Did you have to work at it, or does it just come naturally to you? Posted by: Lengai | Apr 2 2023 8:43 utc | 164 @ Down South | Apr 2 2023 6:18 utc | 151 Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 2 2023 9:03 utc | 165 @unimperator | Apr 2 2023 8:04 utc | 160 Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 2 2023 9:18 utc | 166 @ bevin 109 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 2 2023 9:22 utc | 167 Deplorable Comandant @ all his above. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 2 2023 9:27 utc | 168
When did US strategic bombers fly over Estonia prior to NATO expanding to the Baltics? Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 9:30 utc | 169 Outraged #16 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 2 2023 9:44 utc | 170 unimperator @ 26 / Mary @ 95
I saw this way back too, I filed it also under “babies dumped out of incubators,” and have to call it out here. The Russians aren’t immune to BS and poor propaganda. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 2 2023 9:45 utc | 171
Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 9:52 utc | 172
Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 9:54 utc | 173 @ hopehely 147 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 2 2023 9:54 utc | 174
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40042 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 9:56 utc | 175
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40044 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 9:58 utc | 176 Cochineal ? Where did spellchecker get that from? Cocaine Posted by: Giyane | Apr 2 2023 9:59 utc | 177
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40054 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 10:00 utc | 178
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40055 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 10:02 utc | 179
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/40057 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 10:03 utc | 180 .. Posted by: Ново З | Apr 2 2023 10:03 utc | 181 .. Posted by: Ново З | Apr 2 2023 10:03 utc | 182 Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 2 2023 9:03 utc | 165 Posted by: Down South | Apr 2 2023 10:04 utc | 183 [ Album ] Posted by: unimperator | Apr 2 2023 10:06 utc | 184 https://vk.com/wall701885602_66976
Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 10:31 utc | 185 Military summary reports Russians have managed to accumulate a large “attack fist” around Vekrhnotoretske (NE of Avdeevka). There are several possible attack scenarios: Posted by: unimperator | Apr 2 2023 10:41 utc | 186 The authorities of Ukraine and the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine collect “reproductive material” from soldiers in case of death or injury. The corresponding decree has already been issued and is being distributed among commanders at various levels. Due to high losses, the Zelensky regime is going to avoid a demographic catastrophe in Ukraine in this way. The cynicism of the Kyiv authorities knows no bounds. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 2 2023 10:43 utc | 187 By reading comments I can tell that the 2nd Foundation is alive and well. Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 2 2023 11:38 utc | 188 reply to 187 Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 2 2023 11:39 utc | 189 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 2 2023 10:41 utc | 186 Posted by: Milites | Apr 2 2023 11:48 utc | 191 The US/UK warmongers won’t like this one little bit, its probably true as this newsrag often releases UK security service info. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 2 2023 11:49 utc | 192 @shadowbanned 185: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 2 2023 11:51 utc | 193 Posted by: gT | Apr 1 2023 17:25 utc | 14 Posted by: Due West | Apr 2 2023 12:05 utc | 194 Minimum, incomplete, low-ball KIA(only)(FEBA only) 395+ … Translated:
@Ken Tucky Posted by: Bianca | Apr 2 2023 12:13 utc | 196 Apr 2 2023 9:56 utc | 175 Posted by: paddy | Apr 2 2023 12:32 utc | 197 Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 10:31 utc | 185 Posted by: Milites | Apr 2 2023 12:35 utc | 198 Biswapriya Purkayast @ 114 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 2 2023 12:38 utc | 199 Posted by: shadowbanned | Apr 2 2023 9:30 utc | 169 Posted by: Milites | Apr 2 2023 12:54 utc | 200 |
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