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April 30, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-103

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Russia Minister of Defense Shoigu
The US is purposely provoking China and Russia, it is their plan for world domination.
Here https://twitter.com/AbrahamStein8/status/1652679454643089409?s=20

Posted by: Dave Oneil | Apr 30 2023 14:22 utc | 1

Is ‘Euro-Vision’ (song contest) covered in US and RoW?
BBC cover it live every year and I’ve spent a lifetime avoiding it on the basis it had close to zero artistic merit and it’s bloody awful IMO. Apparently Ukraine won the contest last year and on the basis that Ukraine can’t host this year, it’s hosted in Liverpool.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65378373
The propagandists here tie together winning a song contest with winning a war (most here realise that they’re insane). I get an awful feeling it may prove too tempting for western security services to stage a false flag atrocity, as a pre-text for escalation of direct NATO troop involvement.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Apr 30 2023 14:44 utc | 2

Sorry tired grammar. By “propagandists here” I meant the BBC propagandists in the linked article.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Apr 30 2023 14:48 utc | 3

I read on here yesterday, I can’t unfortunately remember the posters name. I apologise to the poster for that, rude of me.
Basically the gist of the post, the one that stuck in my mind and has been festering away all day is: Russia is getting to showcase all it sophisticated new weaponry in real time with real effect and, there must be a queue of folks wanting this to purchase all the good stuff for themselves, and Russia has not even brought out its best weapons, aren’t folk saying there is an S-600 very close to completion? And, they talk about a weapon of such as the world has never seen before.
His closing remark was: It is business.
Can’t argue with the logic at all but, weapons can’t be purchased with sanctions in place can they? So, will they find a way around the sanctions? Of course they will, we all know that now, irrespective of whatever outcome occurs in Ukraine, the pressure on the US to try and put a stop to neighbours trying to acquihire said new weapons, is going to put even more pressure on them. A bit like a pressure cooker on full heat with no release valve functioning.
Or am I talking out of my arse here? Wouldn’t be the first time!!

Posted by: Ken Tucky | Apr 30 2023 14:59 utc | 4

MOD clobber report has a mention of another missile strike (most likely with several missiles) in Konstantinovka on 24th mech brigade reserve concentration near Konstaninovka.
💥 More than 200 Ukrainian troops have been eliminated and around 280 more have been evacuated with injuries of varying severity as a result of a missile strike on temporary deployment areas of the 24th Mechanised Brigade and a unit of the AFU Special Operations Forces close to Konstantinovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 15:00 utc | 5

Shoigu: “The US is purposely provoking China and Russia, it is their plan for world domination.”
Ah yes, I remember Biden giving a speech in which he claims that Russia has no historical right to exist as a sovereign state…

Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Apr 30 2023 15:03 utc | 6

SO THIS IS IT THEN ON EVE OF MAY 2023 The counteroffensive starting point was clear from the beginning and it’s getting confirmed now.
🇷🇺 🇺🇦 Zaporozhye direction
situation as of 16.00 April 30, 2023
Ukrainian formations are finishing preparations for the announced offensive. In the Zaporozhye region, a comprehensive training was held with reserve units to enter the designated area and organize communications in the field.
🔻A battalion of the 116th mechanized brigade of the 10th army corps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine arrived at the Orekhovsky section . In addition, the command of the 128th Guards Rifle Brigade began moving assault groups to the front line. One of the units of the brigade arrived in Shcherbaki .
▪️In Omelnik, a forward command post for a group of troops was equipped. The other day, Ukrainian signalmen established a closed communication channel between the 108th troop unit and the country’s leadership in Kiev for interaction during the offensive.
🔻Paratroopers of the 46th airborne brigade of the Airborne Forces of Ukraine were deployed to the Gulyai-Polye sector . At least one battalion of the formation was understaffing in Pavlograd in the Dnipropetrovsk region.
▪️A group of special operations forces of Ukraine arrived at the Belogorye-Charivnoe line. SSO sniper crews equip firing points on the front line.
🔻Over the past few days, fuel, ammunition and military equipment have been actively transported through the island of Khortytsya to the Zaporozhye direction .
❗️Also, additional tactical aircraft Su-25 and MiG-29 from the base in Starokonstantinov flew to the airfields Shirokoe and Dolgintsevo near Zaporozhye and Krivoy Rog .

Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Apr 30 2023 15:05 utc | 7

The Russian MOD says they hit a train in Kramatorsk destroying up to 200 tons of ammunition

Posted by: OohCanada | Apr 30 2023 15:17 utc | 8

Bahkmut is all but lost to ukraine now so it would make sense to start fighting elsewhere so as to reduce the negative impact of that news. Fighting it at the eastern edge of the city, then ukraine can fight the glide bombs from their trench systems outside the city along the supply routes.
Frankly I’m thinking they’ll carry on from their too depending on how effective the bombs are with dirt – guessing by belograd mistake it’s about a 65 foot crater.
Anyways it makes sense to start a new thing when the old thing runs out.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 30 2023 15:18 utc | 9

Thank you Barflies for your interesting answers to my question regarding peace negotiations. Lots to digest.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 30 2023 15:27 utc | 10

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Apr 30 2023 14:44 utc | 2
If the EU are equating the success of the Eurovision Song Contest with the Ukraine’s success in the field, then they are really in trouble – but we know they are both shit.
And this is something I haven’t heard before:
“. . . on Thursday [13 April] Russian intelligence revealed their own assessment of Zelensky’s trip to Poland. They concluded that in the event of a severe defeat of the Ukrainian army Western Ukraine would effectively be folded into a Polish-Ukrainian Confederation (The Warsaw Union). Were this to happen then that part of Ukraine would become part of NATO and the EU. Any subsequent attack on Ukraine would represent an attack on NATO dragging in Europe and escalating the conflict into a true European war.”
Brian Green
https://theplanningmotive.com/2023/04/15/so-this-is-how-great-empires-fail-then-fall/

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Apr 30 2023 15:49 utc | 11

“weapons can’t be purchased with sanctions in place can they?”
1. Russia isn’t going to sell cutting edge technology, except to the most trusted partners.
2. Sanctions only diminish the Accuser. All sanctioned products will be built elsewhere. Necessity, is indeed, the Mother of Invention.

Posted by: kupkee | Apr 30 2023 15:50 utc | 12

They concluded that in the event of a severe defeat of the Ukrainian army Western Ukraine would effectively be folded into a Polish-Ukrainian Confederation
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Apr 30 2023 15:49 utc | 11

Ukraine comes with debts attached that would ruin Poland. Can’t pay. Won’t pay.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 30 2023 15:55 utc | 13

For the heavily propagandized:
The full interview where Evgeniy Prigozhin absolutely lambasted Shoigu and the MoD and the Kremlin bureaucracy just came out recently. Russian version here; https://dzen.ru/video/watch/644cc90da1be2f710a8d82dc?share_to=telegram
The bullet-points:
By the 80s, the Soviet Army was just a social club, ineffective and neutered and not even an organization capable of providing a social lift
Russia didn’t win the Chechen wars, Putin paid Kadyrov’s dad a bribe to end it
There was no such thing as the “Delbaltsevo Cauldron” in Donbass – Poroshenko’s army simply made an orderly retreat intact. It was a patriotic lie told by Russia
Wagner was the main force that saved Assad in Syria and was undermined by the MoD every step of the way
The SMO proved that the Russian army is totally demoralized, unorganized, untrained, undisciplined and unprepared
The MoD routinely lies about realities on the battlefield even about Wagner’s operations
The Russian Army in the north likes to get drunk and the Ukrainians make good money selling them cognac
Wagner launched its operation to stabilize the front when the Russian army was retreating in chaos and disorder following the Ukrainian counterattack
The military command gives bizarre orders to its men
There is no real leadership in the army
Russia has the resources to win, but the leadership keeps the resources away from the people who need it on purpose
Lower level officers are pressured to lie to higher-ups because everyone will get in trouble if they don’t
Bakhmut was a plan created by Wagner and General Surovikin to damage the Ukrainian army
Mentally-ill people in the command believed in saving funds and supplies for a later attack, but this decision was eventually reversed
Prigozhin says he knows where the supplies are being kept, there are enough supplies to fight another half-year
MoD Deputy in charge of supplies Aleksei Krivoruchka has to be fired
Prigozhin outlines some simply military math – one hectare requires X amount of shells to be successfully neutralized before a storm. Wagner needs 80,000 shells a day at the very bare minimum
On paper, the Russian Army has soldiers on Wagner’s flanks, but they are not there in reality
Prigozhin believes this is a political sabotage campaign directed at Wagner
Wagner is facing down 35k Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut and up 500 of their soldiers die a day, but are replenished. Every 20 minutes, 10 soldiers are sent in. An unending flood of reinforcements.
Wagner has been cut-off from supplies. Their representatives are sitting 4 days in line to get an appointment from the bureaucracy
The KGB stands for Club of Senile Grandpas (in Russian this acronym works) or the Club of Emotional Midgets
The KGB hates Russia. All their mistresses live good lives in the West so what do they care about the war. They demand that the officers lie to them and only tolerate nice-sounding lies.
The Russian army has been transformed from the world’s second-best army into one of the worst – Russia cannot even deal with Ukraine
Russia’s defenses won’t hold if supplies are not released to the soldiers
Prigozhin reaffirms that political intrigue is what prevents the release of these supplies
Prigozhin wants to launch a federal investigation into the corrupt officials responsible for this and the blood that they have on their hands
Prigozhin keeps a list of the thousands of Russian deaths caused by the MoD
Poor medicine leads to more deaths
Bakhmut could have been taken if Shoigu had given them their supplies
Wagner might have to retreat unless they don’t get supplies
Time to tell the truth and stop lying to the Russian people
Once the rains end and the ground dries, the attack will come, maybe by the 9th of May
The interviewer asks: “maybe you will use these weapons to storm Moscow?”
Prigozhin compares the hated bureaucrats who live on Rublevka to Jews living in Israel
No real answer about whether or not Wagner will march on Moscow, the question is dismissed as being ridiculous [I think its a fun fantasy]
Prigozhin has a helpful list of instructions in his office on how to configure scopes correctly for potential snipers (Kremlin assassins) who want to shoot him at his office in St. Petersburg written on his wall with a helpful hint to adjust for a potential dip in the path of the bullet caused by the long distance of a potential shot taken from across the Neva river
Wagner’s pressure is all that slows down the Ukrainian counterattack by diverting attention
Wagner’s intelligence says that they have spies, satellites, the whole works and according to their information, the Ukrainian threat is very real and can reach the Russia-proper border with the forces that they have
Wagner takes the opinions and analyses of their soldiers seriously, the Russian Military, in contrast, treats its soldiers like trash
They repeat a lot of points about the need for supplies
Ukraine wants to continue the advance further than Donbass and then Poland and NATO
Interviewer: “are you a demoralization agent?”
Prigozhin: the Russian people need to know because they will have to pay in blood for this. The bureaucrats will simply flee to the West. They are the ones afraid of the truth
Prigozhin asks why Russia continues to sell oil to the West through India? Says this is treachery. The elites in Russia are in secret negotiations with the Western elite. [A word-for-word Strelkov talking point].
General Teplinsky is one of the good ones, it’s good news that he is back
More talk about supplies
Wagner won’t march on Moscow (lol)
There is nothing to celebrate this May 9th on Victory Day. Respect for the fallen, but no cause for celebration and pompous ceremonies. Russia hasn’t earned this theatrical display

Posted by: Longhorn | Apr 30 2023 16:00 utc | 14

Wagner’s Prigozhin Issues Most Dire Warning Yet Ahead of Ukrainian Counterattack
@ https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/wagners-prigozhin-issues-most-dire
This is a really damning statement against the Russian military and controlling bureaucrats. He’s quoting Wagner’s Prigozhin.
Is roloslavskiy legitimate?
One thought is that this is deliberate misinformation, to encourage the Ukrainians to make their long-anticipated attack, get creamed by the Russians, and then come to the negotiating table.
It’s certainly not the sort of thing I hear from McGregor, Ritter, and Larry Johnson.

Posted by: metamars | Apr 30 2023 16:00 utc | 15

It’s certainly not the sort of thing I hear from McGregor, Ritter, and Larry Johnson.
Posted by: metamars | Apr 30 2023 16:00 utc | 15
The Russian interview of Prigozhin is posted. How can that be “deliberate misinformation”?
McGregor, Ritter, and Larry Johnson and DD are Western psyops. Look at what you wrote…you believe Western grifters over Prigozhin. Talk about propagandized.

Posted by: Longhorn | Apr 30 2023 16:07 utc | 16

NATO is Raging and Crying! The Liberation of ‘MARYINKA’ may Take Place in the Next Few Days!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yznYtvdd4_I
⚔️Battle for Maryinka
situation by the end of April 29, 2023 — RYBAR
🔻Tankers of the Southern Military District @tankistrossii100 report that in the center of Maryinka, Russian soldiers managed to break through the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Druzhby Avenue and knock them out from two blocks along Polygraphic and Kashtanova streets. Low-rise buildings in the western part of the city remained under the control of Ukrainian formations.
▪️On the southern outskirts, Russian military personnel, supported by artillery, are storming the positions of the 79th Airborne Brigade of Ukraine near the territories of Gorgaz and a wood processing enterprise.
▪️The losses of the 79th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine over the past few days amounted to 33 people killed. Reinforcements, as well as ammunition, were transferred from Zhytomyr to replenish them.
▪️Ukrainian paratroopers are actively using small-sized copters with a grenade drop system, as well as FPV drones to strike Russian positions.
https://t.me/sonar_21/2404

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 16:07 utc | 17

Sober view on Prigozhin:
“Its not all black and white. Im sure russia is ready on multiple levels for the ocunteroffensive. Ever since surkovin took over, theyve been pullung out of non defensible positions and consolidating alomg defense positions. Thats what has given the russians the strength to defend.
But thats not the end game. Im sure that there are gaps in the russian defence. Gaps caused by people who dont behave like they should. Either motivated by greed or betrayed by ego and incompetence.
I think these rather public comments by pirozgin is a combination of things.
1. An invitation to uk4aine to get off their backsides and actually get on with their counteroffensive . If the ukrainian side makes mistakes, russia could make a decisive push.
2. It could also be a way to get the military incompetence out in the open so the conversation starts happening.
3. It could also be a warning for the people who are causing trouble to fix their act.
Overall, everything that pirozgin sats should be treated seriously because he has the ear of putin and he has personally shown the competence to build a highly operational military unit that can rival most world armies today”

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 16:14 utc | 18

Thanks so much for the cascade of views Barflies. I know how much you love Victoria “Fuck the Eu” Nuland:
https://jamesburrillangell.substack.com/p/strange-diplomacy-victoria-fck-the

Posted by: Doim | Apr 30 2023 16:28 utc | 19

hard to tell if prigozhin is reciting a script or telling the truth, who am i to know.
one thing is certain, Russia and above all its officials, not to mention the military, are specialists, almost equal to the Ukronazis in terms of corruption and laxity, and vodka flows freely on their tables

Posted by: A.cagliostro | Apr 30 2023 16:35 utc | 20

After watching pretty much all of the Russian media coverage via
https://yandex.ru/search/ интервью пригожина
I’m a little shocked by the allegations mentioned there.Longhorn has put in some of what Prigoshin mentioned in the interview.
Prigoshin had prepared well for the interview (see the many scripts on the table in front of him).
If even 1/3 of his allegations are true, then it would be time to clean out the Russian Ministry of Defence.
The next few days (the Ukrainians are preparing to attack) will show whether Prigoshin is bluffing or really holding the better hand than the Kremlin.
His statements on Russia’s foreign intelligence service are particularly damning.

Ich denke, b wird sich mit dem Thema auch intensiv beschäftigen und vielleicht mehr Licht ins Dunkel bringen.

Posted by: Oberbayer | Apr 30 2023 16:39 utc | 21

@Jams O’Donnell | Apr 30 2023 15:49 utc | 11
It’s been discussed on here a while back … pretty sure that the ‘Union’ was discussed in Warsaw with US advisors and that Poland would be willing … but ,,, and there are BIG buts
# this would create political civil war in Europe … think about it .. Poland isn’t exactly all that popular — and the cost, the cost …. although the EU is now firmly in Uncle Sam’s pocket this might be a step too far … roll on Macron and Orban … I cannot- understand German Politicos servility but with Blackrock in charge of CDU and Baaerbock out neoconning the neocons anything is possible – the social democrats are toast – Rosa Luxenburgh must be wailing in some parallel universe as her compatriots support Nazis in Ukraine
# NATO has rules about this stuff – but as US writes the rules anything is possible – and the US has clearly decided that Poland is its new best friend in Europe to hassle Russia … as it takes over the old Warsaw Pact countries

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 30 2023 16:57 utc | 22

Re: Posted by: Longhorn | Apr 30 2023 16:00 utc | 14

Prigozhin asks why Russia continues to sell oil to the West through India? Says this is treachery. The elites in Russia are in secret negotiations with the Western elite. [A word-for-word Strelkov talking point].

Yes, I’ve wondered this myself.
Why does Russia continue to send supplies to aid the West in its fight against – RUSSIA?
Seems an incredibly stupid way to fight a war.

Posted by: Julian | Apr 30 2023 16:58 utc | 23

Victor Orban has got it figured out
https://twitter.com/HungaryBased/status/1651971665973108740

Posted by: lapin | Apr 30 2023 17:00 utc | 24

@ Geraint ap Iorwerth | Apr 30 2023 15:05 utc | 7
SO THIS IS IT THEN ON EVE OF MAY 2023 The counteroffensive starting point was clear from the beginning and it’s getting confirmed now.
Maybe it is just a good place to start offensive, and RF might just want them there. Although probably any other place will do.
It is a hideous way to start an offensive under heavy aerial, rockets, and artillery attacks, as RF is denying a lot to AFU at the moment.
@ Longhorn | Apr 30 2023 16:00 utc | 14
On the issue of Vagner’s CEO as a main big mouth behind dissing RF’s military structures, I would look at it as a typical Russian habit of discussions and ranting various stuff, like two babushkas.
Of course that Vagner had upped the ante in certain standards towards RF military affairs in fighting ability, innovation in various fields and such. Changing rigid structures to flexible ones is a difficult task.
But I have no doubt that this knowledge transfer will happen throughout RF Army Military Academies and such, faster than we think.
Regardless what ideas Pegov promotes as in a War Gonzo’s interview or a talk with Prigozin is just a good psy-op concerning both sides.
It serves its purpose, as it consolidates troublesome issues within RF bureaucracy, ranks, and hierarchy that are certainly present there ever since. Very good that this is mentioned, even better if tackled fast.
For the AFU side such troll-talk lures it into believing of dismay and incompetence of RF military. It is very difficult task for Ukrainian side to draw the correct conclusions.
It took almighty Stalin’s infrastructure around 3 years to get the Soviet Army where he wanted it to be, to counter Nazis hard and properly in a unison.
Admitting that is better than being so outrageously arrogant, as Russian Western counterparts are.

Posted by: whirlX | Apr 30 2023 17:02 utc | 25

From Remylind 23 telegram channel….
https://t.me/remylind21/1145
According to a reliable UA source (yes it’s all true so far) UA has started to withdraw to the last line in Bakhmut. Some units cover the retreat. Should it prove to be true, this will save Wagner from conquering some high-rise buildings. That’s why I’m a little surprised at the step of withdrawing at this point in time. I’ll wait and see what my sources tell me. But the UA source has always been right up until now. We will see.
This, if true, confirms Wagner/RU forces are surging west from the Jehova Witness Church, enfilading the Ukie Citadel.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Apr 30 2023 17:07 utc | 26

Prigozhin’s has sold you all a silk purse…that is actually a sow’s ear!

Posted by: donten | Apr 30 2023 17:09 utc | 27

@Longhorn | Apr 30 2023 16:00 utc | 14
Wow! What a man.
Humbly suggest that you offer Prigozhin a nice big fat contract to manage the Dallas Cowboys with the goals of winning the Super Bowl and then seceding from the Union and declaring Texas Independent.
The Tom Landry Medal of Honor awaits for the Great Prigozhin.
Go Cowboys – Go!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 30 2023 17:13 utc | 28

It’s game over for ukraine … poland ‘the hyena’ is waiting on the sidelines…

Posted by: AI | Apr 30 2023 17:19 utc | 29

Russia has been hit hard from sanctions they absolutely need to sell to India, people in Russia need to eat.
India takes a lot of risk dealing with Russia, allowing India to make sweet cash keeps them trading with Russia.
Once China,Russia and all the rest build their own payment system with the rest of the world the payback sanctions are going to decimate the west.

Posted by: OohCanada | Apr 30 2023 17:19 utc | 30

@Oberbayer | Apr 30 2023 16:39 utc | 21
Das “Licht” wird in den von Wagner erzielten Ergebnissen liegen – und ich habe lange vermutet, dass Prigozhin psychologische Spielchen spielt
How are Habermas and Streeck these days – are they still banned from the German MSM?

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 30 2023 17:22 utc | 31

About food.
The Black Sea (Russia + Ukraine) is about 30% of world grain exports.
After the start of the war, Ukraine faced a blockage of ports + bottlenecks in land logistics that cannot be expanded.
Think about it, 30 MILLION TONS remained unsold in the folds. This is how much Germany consumes in 3 years. Almost the same amount all of Russia exported in 2021.
With a harvest of 110 million tons, Ukraine exported 40-50 million tons.
60% of this grain went to the EU.
Now imagine the size of any European country. And how it is flooded with millions of tons of Ukrainian grain at low prices. It still disappears.
This resulted in restrictions on imports and transit by Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia and Romania. Save their industries from a competitor.
Today, the Minister of Agriculture of Poland announced that by the end of the year a COMPLETE ban on the import of agricultural products from Ukraine to the EU will be introduced.
At the same time, Russia simultaneously regulates the capacity of the grain corridor. Slowing down the inspection of ships and cargo traffic.
In fact, all Ukrainian grain is locked inside Ukraine.
In such a situation, Ukrainian farmers will stop sowing… In 2-3 years, Ukraine expects a multiple drop in production volumes. First we got rid of the industry. Now from agriculture. And this is 50% of all foreign exchange earnings in the country.
At the same time, Russian companies, despite the complaints of officials, are significantly increasing in volume and geography.
In fact, today Russia is actively capturing the world food market.
And if young bloggers are worried about chips and the iPhone, then I will reassure you – all this is dust.
On a planet with 8 billion people, people who have food will talk.

https://t.me/panchenkodi/3735

We agree with the Ukrainian journalist that the Ukrainian agrarian will soon “die out”. Everyone is very much interested in this, even our new Pole brothers.
We are confident that the time will come and Ukraine, due to the actions of temporary workers in power, will face a food shortage.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15237

Posted by: Down South | Apr 30 2023 17:25 utc | 32

Frau Merkel voiced what we painted many times back in 2022, emphasizing that if Zelensky had fulfilled the Minsk agreements, Ukraine would not have turned into ruins, hundreds of thousands of people would have survived and there would have been no broken destinies, Ukraine would not have lost new territories , but acquired Donbass, but as part of autonomy.
But Zelensky chose a different path. Everyone can see the result, but this is not the end, everything can end much worse.
In any case, the Ukrainian people have already “lost”, as each time it only gets worse and worse.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15238

Posted by: Down South | Apr 30 2023 17:26 utc | 33

Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President conducted a closed sociology: war weariness continues to grow in society, and Ukrainians are waiting for a counteroffensive in Crimea to end the conflict. Everyone is confident in the positive outcome of the battle for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and opposes any negotiation process with the Kremlin.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17524

Posted by: Down South | Apr 30 2023 17:28 utc | 34

unimperator | Apr 30 2023 16:14 utc | 18
`Ocunteroffensive`….. Love it, thank you. Much love from France x

Posted by: extremebuilder | Apr 30 2023 17:28 utc | 35

In the West, they began to publicly identify the problem into which Zelensky drove himself. Promising a battle for Crimea to all partners, he actually stopped the offensive of the Russian army and forced it to turn out, which drove the Armed Forces of Ukraine into zugzwang. Now we are forced to launch a counteroffensive on a well-fortified sector of the front, while the enemy is expecting a strike.
“Ukraine is not ready for its big offensive, but it has no choice” – this is the headline of a long article in today’s issue of The Times.
The British officers interviewed by the publication testify that their Ukrainian colleagues are confident. “They are ready for this and want to achieve serious success,” – says one of the interlocutors of The Times. At the same time, the publication draws attention to the estimates of American intelligence leaked to the media, according to which Ukraine is unlikely to achieve significant territorial gains.
But, in essence, Kyiv has no choice in the current situation. “President Zelensky has ruled the West with great skill, but to retain its support he must demonstrate what Washington insiders call a ‘return on investment’,” The Times notes.
Kyiv will have to attack in any case. Surely some major goal will be designated, like Melitopol, which has both practical meaning (cutting the land bridge between Crimea and Russia), and great symbolic significance. An attack on Donetsk is also possible – this would be a strong move, although the practical value is less here, writes the British edition.
But the problem is that Moscow is aware of the possible options for the Ukrainian plan. The Russians are hard at work digging in, and satellite photos show a growing number of trenches and fortifications, especially along likely Ukrainian offensive lines in the south. The number of victims on their part has decreased by about a third in recent weeks. They are preparing for a powerful defense, and it will not be easy to overcome it, concludes The Times.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17525

Posted by: Down South | Apr 30 2023 17:29 utc | 36

Our source in the OP said that the General Staff provided Zelensky with all the negative scenarios for the failure of the counteroffensive, which they modeled together with the Pentagon.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine may lose all the most trained units, and the Russian army will occupy the southern regions, in which administrative work is already underway in case our counteroffensive fails.
In the most negative scenario, the entire front may collapse and the enemy will occupy Kharkov, the Donetsk region and come out near Poltava.
The Azov operation is the largest battle of this war in terms of its scale, and the outcome of the battle may cost too much for Ukraine.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17527

Posted by: Down South | Apr 30 2023 17:32 utc | 37

Can you imagine if any of these latest Natzo claims re a Wagner CEO interview are true? And *still* Russia is defeating and demilitarizing Natzo? Then Putin was understated when he said “we really haven’t even started anything yet”.

Posted by: natokraine | Apr 30 2023 17:37 utc | 38

Our source reports that in the Office of the President, one of several plans for a future offensive includes an “invasion” of Russian territory (capture of border regions). A couple of villages
This action will:
– morale boost
– it will be a Mega informational victory
– raising the stakes in the game, which is necessary for the Western lobby in the case of a “nuclear, man-made” strike or catastrophe
– public humiliation of the Russian Federation in order to provoke certain actions
– an attempt to shake the Russian Federation from the inside
– diverting attention from a real offensive in another main direction.
Many in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine consider this a too dangerous step, which will give more trump cards to the Kremlin than to the Office of the President. But Zelensky did not abandon this plan, they simply made him a backup in case everything did not go according to plan “A”.
Therefore, some reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have recently been accumulating in the Sumy region, which the Russians covered with their planning 500-kilogram bombs.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15236

Colleagues, the General Staff, with the support of MI6, has already developed an operation to capture Belgorod; for these purposes, a special group of troops was created in Kharkov. Such a blow is needed for the psychological effect to take the war into enemy territory and cause panic.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/17530

Posted by: Down South | Apr 30 2023 17:37 utc | 39

@ Longhorn, #14
Nice cut and paste list. How many in your “office” did you have to ask to get it?
We’ll see how May plays out. If it goes badly for the Ukies, I suspect you will disappear from MoA like a fart in the wind…

Posted by: DakotaRog | Apr 30 2023 17:40 utc | 40

Written by Павел Владимирович:
Of Ukraine’s glorious counter-offensive
Zaluzhny now insists on postponing the long-awaited Ukrainian counter-offensive to the end of June, because he thinks better weather, warmer Dnieper river and dry soil will help Ukraine and be “more comfortable for its soldiers”. To me, this translates to “I don’t want to deal with this, please appoint someone else to orchestrate this debacle”.
It is clear now that Russia is no longer fighting the same Ukrainian army that it did a year and some ago. That army has been annihilated and so has the second one during another glorious counter-offensive, namely that around Kharkov. Now, with a third Ukrainian army, full of untrained men who don’t want to be there, Ukraine is pressed to venture on another great adventure. We’ve seen many videos of people being caught on various streets of what is still Ukraine (although it is getting increasingly silly to call it a country, even objectively) and many of them show less than enthusiasm. We’ve seen a guy fainting, a fella fighting the police (not just one, by the way) and these people will now be sent against the six layers deep Russian defences, protected by the actual Russian army. There was some talk that Ukrainians are hoping to rout the Russian army and throw it into panic (I’m assuming upon seeing their grand armada, carrying the banners of Odin or whatever), which I hope, for their own sake, isn’t true.
The insane mechanics’s dream that is Ukrainian heavy equipment garage is about as wonky as their personnel too. The many nations of the global West chipped in for this fight for the American dollar and so Ukrainians now have a bit of everything. As pretty as all this equipment looks with a swastika painted on it, it can’t do much without ammunition, which Ukraine has very little of now as well.
Another thing to point out now is the shortage of air-defence ammunition, which allows the Russian air-force to pummel the aryans to Valhalla daily.
In summary, the Third Ukrainian Army (I capitalise because it’s funnier that way) is a Frankenstein’s monster of equipment that has only been raised a bit. The monster knows it’s there, but can’t do much, in reality.
All of the things I mentioned aren’t getting any better, it’s all getting worse and worse daily and only accelerating. If this is clear to someone like me, who’s only military strategy experience comes from video games, I’m pretty sure it is clear to Zaluzhny.
I don’t like making predictions, but please allow me to make one: the Ukrainian counter-offensive won’t happen, at least not the way we imagine it. I know some highly knowledgeable people would disagree with me, but what the hell… The Western pressure on Ukraine will force them to do ‘something’ and that ‘something’ will be presented as a great counter-offensive, but it won’t be that at all. Instead it will be a desperate attempt at making it look like a counter-offensive, while throwing the too young and the too old with no experience or training against Russian artillery to please the Western masters.
This post is somewhat more snarky than my usual writings, please forgive me, I couldn’t help myself.
Thank you for reading.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/43912

Posted by: Down South | Apr 30 2023 17:43 utc | 41

Pepe Escobar provides a different interpretation of the Xi/Zelensky phone call, “What China Is Really Playing at in Ukraine”. The appetizer:

Imagine President Xi Jinping mustering undiluted Taoist patience to suffer through a phone call with that warmongering actor in a sweaty T-shirt in Kiev while attempting to teach him a few facts of life – complete with the promise of sending a high-level Chinese delegation to Ukraine to discuss “peace”.
There’s way more than meets the discerning eye obscured by this spun-to-death diplomatic “victory” – at least from the point of view of NATOstan.
The question is inevitable: what’s the point of this phone call? Very simple: just business….
Until recently, and since 2019, Beijing was the top trade partner for Kiev (14.4% of imports, 15.3% of exports). China essentially exported machinery, equipment, cars and chemical products, importing food products, metals and also some machinery.
Very few in the West know that Ukraine joined BRI way back in 2014, and a BRI trade and investment center was operating in Kiev since 2018. BRI projects include a 2017 drive to build the fourth line of the Kiev metro system as well as 4G installed by Huawei. Everything is stalled since 2022.

Pepe also mentions the SCO Defense Minister’s meeting that just took place in India which has gone unnoticed here. Being currently based in Moscow has allowed Pepe access to important sources that didn’t exist for him before. He’s been on RT several times, a guest on The Great Game TV program twice, and a participant in the Online Global Multipolar Conference. And his Telegram has become another information portal far better than two months ago.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 30 2023 18:07 utc | 42

Longhorn @ 14
If Prigozhin did say what you reported in your post at 14 and if he really meant it, this explains why the Wagners are quickly rapping up Bakhmut.
They will desperately be needed to help contain and to destroy the coming Ukrainian offensive.
It does look like the Surovikin, Prigozhin bond is in tact. That is goodness. Also, it appears that incompetent commanders are being shuttled out of the Russian ranks on the front lines.
I think Putin knew it would take some time and some losses to start tuning up the Russian army. Ukraine has provided that opportunity.
Despite their corruption, the Russians are starting to clean house with the Wagners being the head butler making the master aware of incompetence within his castle.
Russia is a beast like the other 3 beasts spoken of in Daniel 7. Like the beast before it and the two following it, the bear is still a beast which will have its share of corruption like the others.
So, it is no surprise that corruption lies within it.

Posted by: young | Apr 30 2023 18:22 utc | 43

“Ah yes, I remember Biden giving a speech in which he claims that Russia has no historical right to exist as a sovereign state…”
I think you mean when Biden told Poland that Putin needs to be overthrown. It’s the head of the national security apparatus in Ukraine who said Russia has to be “shattered” and “disarmed.”
Happy to help.

Posted by: line islands | Apr 30 2023 18:23 utc | 44

@16 Longhorn
“McGregor, Ritter, and Larry Johnson and DD are Western psyops. Look at what you wrote…you believe Western grifters over Prigozhin. Talk about propagandized.”
Lol. I love how people still listen to Prighozin. Prighozin is just a sly “entrepreneur” who is trying to milk the Wagner participation in the SMO in order to advance his huge political ambitions. He has no military experience nor is he in command of Wagner’s military operations. I’m not even sure he is the one that actually spills the money needed to keep Wagner afloat.
Honestly, the Russian MoD has been much too patient with him. The more I look at the Russian nationalist environment, the more I’m confronted with a segment of the Russian population that is so suspicious of their own government and so traumatized by the lac of communication before the Izyum retreat that they are ready to believe any private (that is, not State-related) conman that successfully managed to depict himself like a hero by leveraging Wagner’s soldiers military successes.

Posted by: Leonardo | Apr 30 2023 18:28 utc | 45

Russia isn’t selling oil to the west. India and Singapore and the Saudis, etc are buying Russian oil and oil products. They’re selling those products on to the west and making a profit doing so. Those making the profit are growing accustomed to it and to working with Russians. It’s called soft power.
That’s not to say that there aren’t still direct money making schemes, nor that everyone in Russia has its best interest at heart. Plenty have their own best interest at heart and only that interest. You’ll find those in every country; it’s a feature of Liberalism. They’re the people who sold US industry to China and pillaged the US population for the banks.

Posted by: Lex | Apr 30 2023 18:35 utc | 46

I notice the perplexing ‘news’ contradictions regarding the musicians.
I just judge them by their fruit production-:)

Posted by: Robert Hope | Apr 30 2023 18:36 utc | 47

karlof1@42
D octorow had a piece on the NewDelhi conference a couple of days ago.
He confirmed that none of the MSM had noticed it.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 30 2023 18:36 utc | 48

Prigozhin is on the ammo warpath….
Most likely, Suvrokin is husbanding ammo for his counter offensive after the Ukies shoot their wad…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Apr 30 2023 18:38 utc | 49

re Prigozhin. after the UK Sun , UK Defense Ministry and NAFO , why not do some grade A trolling. im suprised he didnt go as far as saying he will rip putins cancerous liver out if he doesnt get what he wants.

Posted by: hankster | Apr 30 2023 18:39 utc | 50

Has putin not yet expired?
The guy has been falling down stairs, off balconies, pooping his britches, dying of cancer and about to be assassinated so much now that some idiots don’t even believe it’s all true anymore-:)

Posted by: Robert Hope | Apr 30 2023 18:51 utc | 51

Posted by: kupkee | Apr 30 2023 15:50 utc | 12
[“weapons can’t be purchased with sanctions in place can they?”
1. Russia isn’t going to sell cutting edge technology, except to the most trusted partners.
2. Sanctions only diminish the Accuser. All sanctioned products will be built elsewhere. Necessity, is indeed, the Mother of Invention.]
India has had to either postpone or cancel some Russian weapons deals. Either due to the sanctions or that the weapons are needed by Russia in Ukraine.
For instance: https://www.businessinsider.com/india-says-russia-not-delivering-weapons-everything-to-ukraine-2023-3 and https://indianexpress.com/article/world/russia-ukraine-war-india-weapons-systems-us-7799245/

Posted by: Response2 | Apr 30 2023 18:53 utc | 52

@bevin
here it is [h/t nakedcapitalism]
Meeting of the Defense Ministers of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in Delhi
There were a couple of outstanding and newsworthy developments at the SCO gathering in India today. One was the speech delivered by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. Several minutes from this speech were carried on Russian news channels and what we heard was Shoigu declaring that from the start of the Special Military Operation in Ukraine the Collective West was throwing all of its military assets against Russia.
The other noteworthy development was the side meeting of Shoigu and his Chinese counterpart Li Shangfu. They were shown on television walking side by side to that meeting. Russian news tells us that Li used their meeting to extend an invitation to Shoigu to visit him in Beijing, and that Shoigu accepted.
The impact on the other SCO member states, observers and dialogue partners of these close and fast developing relations between the Russian and Chinese defense ministries cannot be overstated. Today they were all direct witnesses of this fact. Among other things, this spells the end of opportunities for Central Asian states to play Russia off against China in obtaining favors, as Western media believed they were doing. It completely vitiates all efforts by U.S. Secretary of State Blinken over the past several months to pressure these same Central Asian countries into loosening or breaking ties with Moscow. These states are now all caught between a rock and a hard place.
The drama of the Russian-Chinese entente also will bear on the future conduct of India and Pakistan. Here, too, the options for playing games or fence sitting are fast disappearing. For their part, Iran and Saudi Arabia will surely be among the countries taking great comfort in the bloc forming between the states they rely on to pursue a foreign policy independent of diktat from Washington.
https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2023/04/28/meeting-of-the-defense-ministers-of-the-shanghai-cooperation-organization-in-delhi/

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 30 2023 19:12 utc | 53

I can see many people of troll identity waiting for Putins demise, the simple fact is if you got your wish , I think most will agree a stronger harder replacement will be there in the wings as a new leader with the full on intent to completely destroy Ukraine and the west. It can be Akin if somebody killed Joe Biden. Any reason to blame Russia/China\ Iran or whoever is on this weeks sanctions list. Neocons are obsessive which will be there downfall.

Posted by: Scot1and | Apr 30 2023 19:27 utc | 54

“Russia has the resources to win, but the leadership keeps the resources away from the people who need it on purpose.” Posted by: Longhorn | Apr 30 2023 16:00 utc | 14

This gets to the heart of the matter. Russian nationalist patriots inside the military/corporate/finance/media/bureaucracy complex are few. The likes of Vicky Nuland have an army of minions handing out bribes so people will commit small acts of treason disguised as incompetence. Unless Russians depose their globalist elites and their middle management minions, they are finished, same as the west. The front lines are not in the Donbass, they are in Moscow and St Petersburg.

Posted by: Drifter | Apr 30 2023 19:31 utc | 55

Pavlograd railway area hit heavily. huge fires light up the night sky. large men and machinery transfers destroyed of the AFU.

Posted by: hankster | Apr 30 2023 19:44 utc | 56

Happening: “Ukrainian telegram channels report the presence of fourteen Tu-95MS strategic bombers in the air”

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 30 2023 19:55 utc | 57

17 Tu-95ms aircraft is already confirmed in the air. This is a bigger group than that created after the attack on the Crimea bridge

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/43994

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 30 2023 20:00 utc | 58

More FUD, particularly the latter–Distortion–from today’s crop of trolls. Their desperation increases at the same pace as Ukraine’s losses. I wonder when they’ll switch to China, whcih they know even less about.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 30 2023 20:02 utc | 59

The Russians tactically got into the artillery ammunition depot in Pavlograd, Dnepropetrovsk region, which are intended for the Donetsk group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
First, there was air defense work on the Geran-2 kamikaze drones, and then the missiles arrived.
The danger remains. Part of the UAV continues to move inland.
The Russians used the “pull” tactic, where UAVs are used as a shield, and missiles following them hit targets with lightning speed.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15240

Posted by: Down South | Apr 30 2023 20:05 utc | 60

I wondered when the first deep fake would be used as a weapon of war .perhaps its this one!!

Posted by: WRFB | Apr 30 2023 20:07 utc | 61

Unprecedented strike on enemy air defence – multiple S-300 launchers destroyed in Pavlograd
According to Readovka’s source, after the Russian Armed Forces carried out a night strike on the Pavlograd railway junction, eyewitnesses have reported a mass detonation of anti-aircraft missiles for the S-300 complex. According to our information, two divisions (up to 16 units) of S-300P were destroyed. In addition, supply vehicles with reserve ammunition were hit.
A huge fire volcano has erupted over the city and the detonation of rockets has continued for almost an hour.
The enemy’s air defences are severely damaged.
#source (https://t.me/readovkanews/57875)

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/44002

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 30 2023 20:10 utc | 62

young @ 43
The bear in Daniel 7 refers to the Medo-Persian Empire. Daniel 7 has nothing to do with Russia except they both are referred to as “bears”. I am a son of a mother. You are a son of a mother. But that doesn’t make us brothers or the same person. Stop with your unsupported Bible commentary. If you would just take a moment and research what Bible scholars say about the meaning of the bear in Daniel 7 you would do yourself and others a favor. People with an ignorant understanding of the Bible has dragged a lot of good men to hell. Don’t be that person.

Posted by: Dferg | Apr 30 2023 20:13 utc | 63

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Apr 30 2023 14:44 utc | 2
Ucraine won the EUrovision Song Festival in
– 2004 (Orange revolution)
– 2016 (Maidan), winning song “1944”.
– 2022 (War with Russia) with voting irregularities, unsurprisingly in favor of Ucraine.

Posted by: Passerby | Apr 30 2023 20:16 utc | 64

@55 it is true and not particularly welcome to say here. Russia has a big problem with wanna be Europeans 5th columnists especially in the central bank and military.
Nonetheless Bidens handlers have been quite helpful in shoring up the nationalists case. Seems like the 5th columnists are being used up to prosecute this war. After all the ethnic based hate I don’t think they’ll have as many people who will belive the narrative of the free world. The people they do pick will be pretty mercenary and much more likely to be double agents
First though Putin, the central bank people and Shoigu’s people would be best used supporting front line units. And if they sabotage russias defences against the next Ukrainian attack, it might happen and a replay of the russian Civil War after ww1 can take place.
Using up the assets indeed. Imagine selling out your country and then being betrayed in turn. It’s inevitable.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 30 2023 20:18 utc | 65

Number of aircraft increasing still

❗️BREAKING
‼️🇷🇺💥🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ It is reported that there are already 21 Tu-95MS aircraft of the strategic aviation of the Russian Federation in the sky, the total salvo is 136 missiles

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/62509

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 30 2023 20:18 utc | 66

Posted by: Drifter | Apr 30 2023 19:31 utc | 55
I would like to add Brussels, London, New York and Washington DC to your list.

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 30 2023 20:32 utc | 67

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtWT8CvWbX0

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 30 2023 20:37 utc | 68

Missile attack in Pavlohrad that appears to have destroyed UKR AD
All those Tu-95s
Reports of 2 RUS subs leaving Sevastopol into Black Sea
Big night…

Posted by: Gengar | Apr 30 2023 20:39 utc | 69

Here is the long version of the Ukronazi execution of the Wagner troops that Prigozhin mentioned the other week. Barbarians, and they (or someone) are trying to fundraise off the video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1652627989547429889

Posted by: LGB! | Apr 30 2023 20:46 utc | 70

“Prigozhin is on the ammo warpath….
Most likely, Suvrokin is husbanding ammo for his counter offensive after the Ukies shoot their wad…
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Apr 30 2023 18:38 utc | 49”
Astute comment.

Posted by: osi | Apr 30 2023 20:48 utc | 71

Anyone know why Russia hasn’t taken out the RR lines in Ukraine? Over 1 year into the “SMO” and Ukraine can still import weapons via rail and move them around Ukraine. Maybe they just want Dementia Joe to visit Zelensky once a year?

Posted by: Dulles_Did_Dallas | Apr 30 2023 20:48 utc | 72

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 30 2023 20:00 utc | 58
Bombing some ukro groupings in the Zaporizhe front line perhaps. It’s been proved that missiles are no longer only for high-value rear targets but front line units. While the area is large, the ukros must have staged some full battalion size units here and there in expectation to attack soon.
“[ Album ]
‼️Russian Aerospace Forces “smart bombs” destroy bases and clusters of equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the south before the counteroffensive
An accurate blow destroyed hangars with equipment in the Kherson region.
Reconnaissance reveals, and aviation continues to destroy enemy targets with gliding bombs.”
https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/29298
[ Album ]
‼️💥Ukraine is under attack: explosions and a huge fire in Pavlograd
In the sky, “Shahids”, strategic bombers took off from distant bases, in Ukraine there was an air raid.
The first arrivals in Pavlograd, Dnepropetrovsk region, there was a terrible fire on the site, local sources write.
https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/29313
Pavlograd is a/the major railway junction leading to Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and Konstantinovka and rest of Artemovsk area. Maybe they put it out of commission for good, usually those junctions have a certain switch table which might be impossible to repair if they are hit well.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 20:49 utc | 73

❗️ The Russian Navy is reported to have launched eleven ships and two underwater missile launchers into the Black Sea.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/44010

‼️🇷🇺💥🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ It is reported that many air defense installations and ammunition for them were destroyed in Pavlograd. There is practically nothing for the Nazis to shoot down Russian missiles.
Tu-95 moved to the missile launch areas. Sleepless night ahead. Approximate time of arrival of a cloud of cruise missiles is about 1 a.m.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/62512

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 30 2023 20:50 utc | 74

” Russia Minister of Defense Shoigu
The US is purposely provoking China and Russia, it is their plan for world domination.
Here https://twitter.com/AbrahamStein8/status/1652679454643089409?s=20
Posted by: Dave Oneil | Apr 30 2023 14:22 utc | 1 ”
Sounds like Shoigu just stated that ZioAmerica thinks it can win those conflicts. How, would that be possible however ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 30 2023 20:51 utc | 75

“Air defence in Pavlograd mostly gone 😁”
https://t.me/gzvonews/6049
Big fireworks at Pavlograd.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 20:54 utc | 76

Anyone know why Russia hasn’t taken out the RR lines in Ukraine? Over 1 year into the “SMO” and Ukraine can still import weapons via rail and move them around Ukraine. Maybe they just want Dementia Joe to visit Zelensky once a year?
Posted by: Dulles_Did_Dallas | Apr 30 2023 20:48 utc | 72
Yes, I can tell you why. Russia wants to destroy as many expensive NATO military equipment as possible, because it wants to destabilize the NATO member states and wants to demilitarize NATO. It’s quite simple, actually. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 30 2023 20:57 utc | 77

BTW, Zelensky just came out saying the CounterOffensive™ needs to be postponed due to the leaked documents in the US like a month ago or something.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 21:02 utc | 78

” Russia has been hit hard from sanctions they absolutely need to sell to India, people in Russia need to eat.
India takes a lot of risk dealing with Russia, allowing India to make sweet cash keeps them trading with Russia.
Posted by: OohCanada | Apr 30 2023 17:19 utc | 30 ”
If ZioAmerica wanted India to stop selling, India would be hit with massive sanctions as its economy is totally depended on supplying services to the US and the EU. At that point India would simply comply or suffer massive economic consequences.
So here’s option two:
India is allowed to sell so that the EU doesnt suffer too much.
Option three: Its all theater with purposely built in loop holes.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 30 2023 21:03 utc | 79

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 30 2023 21:03 utc | 79
We just had recently news reports on Reuters and bloombags that the major diesel suppliers to EUrope currently are India and *drumroll* Morocco. Both whose main suppliers are some Middle East producer, who are buying record amount of oil or refined oil products from Russia, or India. We see how it all works.
The global commodity market for oil and gas (LNG) work as it did before, Russia is making dough hasn’t done anything but lied about sanctions for the past 15 months.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 21:07 utc | 80

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 21:07 utc | 80
*Russia is making dough and Ursula VDL hasn’t done anything but lied about sanctions for the past 15 months
They have supposedly placed 11000 sanctions.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 21:08 utc | 81

Offensive this, counteroffensive that, ad infinitum. Boring!
Ready, not ready, weather bad, ready again! Wait, no ammo, not ready. Ready again, it’s started! No, maybe it hasn’t. Literally for months now. This magical troop movement better be spectacular, and I expect that ANY gain, however small, will be 24/7 news for a week in the West. The suspense!
Russian forces waiting for “The Big Offensive” to move may be idle for months. If war were a spectator sport this would not do, more action! However, time is also an enemy in war and not wanting to sound like every other “shock and awe” proponent, I do believe that Russia should pick up the pace just a bit to keep Kiev on the back foot. I now pass into the ranks of armchair generals all over the earth. Perhaps I should just be in church instead. Idle hands are the Devils playthings.
Perhaps waiting for contracts to run out on the Russian soldiers and they start going home is the new offensive for Keev?
Happy Sunday all. Cherish life.

Posted by: Fudup | Apr 30 2023 21:09 utc | 82

⚡️Unprecedented attack on enemy air defense by 10 Russian TU-95MC Heavy Bombers. A number of Ukrainian S-300 systems were destroyed at a railway junction in Pavlograd.
❗️According to Readovka, after last night’s strike of the Russian Armed Forces on the railway junction of Pavlograd, eyewitnesses report a mass detonation of anti-aircraft missiles for the S-300 complex.
❗️According to our information, two divisions (up to 16 installations) of S-300P were destroyed. In addition, supply vehicles with reserve ammunition were hit.
💥The shockwave from the explosion was so powerful it broke windows throughout the whole city of Pavlograd.
⚡️Such a massive Russian missile sortie has happened only twice before: On February 24 (the beginning of the SMO) and October 10, 2022, in revenge for the Ukrainian attack on the Crimean bridge.
https://t.me/AussieCossack/6905
Also, apparently a chemical enterprise was hit, hosting among others fuel tanks. There were also rumors that British DU ammunition was stored in Pavlograd.
Donbass

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 21:29 utc | 83

Dulles_Did_Dallas @ 72
One of two things, either they want the enemy to come to them as they seriously over-extended themselves in the first part of the SMO and they will not do that again; the Pentagon wants them out in the open, the steppe west of the Dnieper, spread out and far from home, or, Russia can’t hit the railroad lines and bridges all that easily or effectively, or most likely a practical mix of both. Put it another way, Russia is doing the best they can, they are making lemonade out of lemons, life is very often like that. Have yourself a glass of lemonade.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 30 2023 21:29 utc | 84

“In Kiev, Major General Volodymyr Oleinik, who commanded the territorial defense units, was shot dead near his home.”
Intel Slava Z

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 30 2023 21:45 utc | 85

“The Ukrainian media are reporting dozens of Russian ships, submarines, and strategic bombers, which should launch a powerful volley of hundreds of missiles at targets on the territory of Ukraine any minute.
The American RQ-4B Global Hawk and P-8A Poseidon are watching the expected strike and other military activity of the RF Armed Forces at this moment from the Romanian sky.”
Slavyangrad

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 30 2023 21:53 utc | 86

@ LightYearsFromHome | Apr 30 2023 21:29 utc | 84
the Pentagon wants them out in the open, the steppe west of the Dnieper, spread out and far from home, or, Russia can’t hit the railroad lines and bridges all that easily or effectively, or most likely a practical mix of both.
Oh, no. Nobody from the Collected West wants to see RF approaching it, but that is inevitable, and their nightmares will come true soon.
The way up to Polish border is rather open, so that is why, if one wants to go there, the one doesn’t blow big bridges ove the wide rivers. Might want to use those.
Railroad is repairable in, like, a day and for very little money/cost. So to blow 100 m of the railroad is not cheap and has no real effect.
It is more effective to destroy large traffic and transportation knots, and apparently this is happening, less often we would like to see it, but it seems it is under the control.
Put it another way, Russia is doing the best they can
Well, it is funny how after every bitching session by Vagner CEO onto RF Army, the very same Army does a few hours of amazing “shock and awe” that one can only wish for.
I think they can do much better. I am not so sure, but as of today it seems that Putin’s ‘not starting in earnest’ quote is not valid anymore.

Posted by: whirlX | Apr 30 2023 21:57 utc | 87

Dunno if the news of 16 S-300 launchers (two divisions?) is true but that is irrecoverable loss for Nato. They simply have nothing of the quality or numbers to come anywhere near replacing them.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 30 2023 22:01 utc | 88

Don Firineach @ 53

https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2023/04/28/meeting-of-the-defense-ministers-of-the-shanghai-cooperation-organization-in-delhi/

Most important write up of the day, maybe the month, maybe the year. Sides are being drawn up, less and less gray area, soon it’ll be black and white, and world war. That how it always goes. Maybe with a little luck this time it’ll go different, this time one of the sides is coalescing to avoid war.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 30 2023 22:04 utc | 89

@ Apollyon | Apr 30 2023 21:53 utc | 86
The American RQ-4B Global Hawk and P-8A Poseidon are watching the expected strike and other military activity of the RF Armed Forces at this moment from the Romanian sky.
They better stay there, but without any guarantee that they are safe.
I think that RF, as Putin announced, will stop playing by the rules, and then it’ll get hideous for NATO.
After so much sneaky, pompous and arrogant poking and peeking below the belt and doubling down as there is no tomorrow, what else can one expect?

Posted by: whirlX | Apr 30 2023 22:11 utc | 90

I speculated, but definitely didn’t predict today’s mass effort by Russia. Ukraine couldn’t begin its well-publicized major offensive until the ground dries, which looks likely to happen soon. The longer that Russia waited, the more NATO equipment that will have been delivered and waiting to be destroyed. Finishing clearing Artemovsk freed one of their urban-warfare forces. (I’ll try to not call it Bakhmut any more since it is back in Russian hands.)
I don’t know if Russia will take this opportunity to destroy weapons that are still in other countries. I expect them to destroy any with DU in those countries if they can. Will Russia sink other’s ships transporting weapons, especially DU ones? We’ll see.

Posted by: barstool | Apr 30 2023 22:13 utc | 91

Oh, yea, the early that Russia shows the obvious inability of Ukraine to win, the more it hurts the pro-Ukrainian candidates for US President.

Posted by: barstool | Apr 30 2023 22:17 utc | 92

The Poseidon is gone.

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 30 2023 22:24 utc | 93

barstool: but all of the candidates are pro-Ukraine. Trump is, at best, neutral…until he appoints more Pompeo and Bolton types.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 30 2023 22:37 utc | 94

@LGB! | Apr 30 2023 22:40 utc | 95
Trump wants what’s best for Trump, it’s as simple as that. He might end the war – if it suited him. No strategic vision – just blind self interest.

Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 30 2023 22:44 utc | 95

LGB!: One of the good things about Trump is that he’d rather cut deals than conform to ideologies. I just hope that Trump is no longer interested in (or feels compelled to) cutting deals with the Deep State.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 30 2023 22:46 utc | 96

the pessimist: true dat. At some point, however, blind self-interest is more likely to intersect with the survival of humanity than Derp State imperialism.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 30 2023 22:49 utc | 97

hmm…is “derp state imperialism” a typo or a Freudian insight?

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 30 2023 22:51 utc | 98

@ Posted by: barstool | Apr 30 2023 22:13 utc | 91
Weather forecast for the week is lots of sun and warming temperatures.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Apr 30 2023 22:56 utc | 99

@malenkov | Apr 30 2023 22:37 utc | 94
I was thinking about running for POTUS myself. I have a distinct advantage: as barstool, I have three good legs to stand on!

Posted by: barstool | Apr 30 2023 23:00 utc | 100