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April 23, 2023
The MoA Week In Review – (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-97

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Oz goes total US puppet.
. . .from BD:

Australia will slash its planned purchase of Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFVs) from 450 to 129 as part of a broader strategic shift outlined in a highly-anticipated policy document that seems to move away from homeland defense towards power projection, with a keen eye on the major strategic challenge in the region: China.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has hinted that changes were coming for several months. In November, Albanese that Australia would look to prioritize missiles, missile defense capabilities and drones, including armed drones. He appeared to ridicule the basic tenet of the army’s argument that armor will be needed to defend the Australia landmass, known generically as the “northern strategy” since the assumption was that no one could possibly move many forces to attack the island continent’s soft underbelly.
“Are we going to be involved in a land war in central Queensland? Is that likely? Well, no,” Albanese said. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 24 2023 14:15 utc | 101

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 23 2023 19:00 utc | 30
Does this buffoon Borrell understand that outside of France, no EU country has a blue water navy capable of projecting force outside of the region?
And Macron wants to stay out of the Taiwan trap?
This clown is beyond clown-world. Next level butt-clown?

Posted by: Chris | Apr 24 2023 14:16 utc | 102

Posted by: Chris | Apr 24 2023 14:16 utc | 101
I think he’s an ouroboros, but anal rather than oral.

Posted by: Antiwar7 | Apr 24 2023 14:28 utc | 103

Watching the UN meeting with Lavrov:
here

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 24 2023 14:36 utc | 104

@malenkov | Apr 23 2023 20:46 utc | 44
We are working on it. 🙂
Waiting for fiber…
Been over a year so far that we’ve been using our phones for bandwidth…
And before you ask, we can get Starlink, but you can’t run a server off it, all addresses are private and temporary leases.

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 24 2023 14:39 utc | 105

Hermit:
> And before you ask,
I lack the technical know-how to even ask. 🙂 Thanks for the information!

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 24 2023 14:52 utc | 106

” Russia and Ukraine, despite being locked in an armed conflict, continue to trade products and services with each other, a situation that journalist Seymour Hersh described as “quite crazy” in an interview with the TV show ‘Going Underground.’
“Oil and money transcends any sort of rationality, I guess,” Hersh said in the interview aired by RT on Monday. ”
https://www.rt.com/russia/575256-hersh-ukraine-corruption-zelensky/

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 24 2023 15:02 utc | 107


Are we going to be involved in a land war in central Queensland? Is that likely? Well, no,” Albanese said. . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 24 2023 14:15 utc | 100

Like his Lib PM predecessor, Scum Mo, Lab PM Albanese is a coŕrupt intellectual pygmy, a cretin and a traitor. When his party ascended to government in May 2022 ‘Albo’ lacked the imagination and/or wisdom to at least PRETEND to review Scum Mo’s AUKUS folly, before embracing it chapter and verse.
Lib/Lab Members of Parliament are provided with 5 (or 6) Taxpayer-funded office staff. Independent and “other” party MPs are provided with 1.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 24 2023 15:10 utc | 108

…from Asia Times
Western tech firms just can’t resist China’s chip market
Applied Materials, Lam Research and Siemens among those looking past US sanctions to attend semiconductor-related event in Guangdong

US tech titans Tim Cook and Elon Musk are under fire for their business ties to China but they are not the only Western tech executives trying to protect their hard-won Chinese markets in an increasingly hostile political environment at home.
US semiconductor production equipment heavyweights Applied Materials, Lam Research and KLA participated in the 25th China IC Manufacturing Annual Conference and Supply Chain Innovation Forum held in Guangzhou from April 17-19. . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 24 2023 15:17 utc | 109

. . . .pass the chips…from scmp. . .
US threatens to hollow out Taiwan’s hi-tech industry in the guise of defence

. . .How predictable! Just look at what’s happening to TSMC, one of a handful of producers of the most advanced chips in the world and the pride and joy of the island’s tech industry. It was, for many years, one of Warren Buffett’s major holdings. But recent corporate filings show his flagship Berkshire Hathaway cut its stakes in TSMC by 86 per cent in the fourth quarter, the reason cited being geopolitical risks over Taiwan.
Meanwhile, TSMC has been compelled by the Americans to shift production offshore to the US with a US$40 billion investment in Arizona. That is part of the industrial policy under the Joe Biden administration to redevelop America’s domestic hi-tech industry, but it has led to warnings by the opposition in Taiwan that the island’s own industry is being hollowed out.
The fear is more than justified. US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo recently called the US dependence on Taiwanese chips “untenable” and “unsafe”. During a recent trip to Taipei, top Republican legislator Michael McCaul warned that the island’s semiconductor industry was a strategic asset that’s “very vulnerable to invasion”. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 24 2023 15:27 utc | 110

Don Bacon | Apr 24 2023 14:15 utc | 100
Oz has been a total US puppet since WWII. Hereditary English monarch and US foreign policy.
Current headlines in the government daily tabloid…
Australia is entering the ‘missile age’ and is no longer protected by its geography, defence review says
……
Australia’s military has begun one of its greatest shifts since WWII. Here’s how it will change
……
Boy says he feels ‘dirty and angry’ as woman who raped him when he was 12 is jailed for four years
………..

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 24 2023 15:46 utc | 111

“…TSMC has been compelled by the Americans to shift production offshore to the US with a US$40 billion investment in Arizona. That is part of the industrial policy under the Joe Biden administration to redevelop America’s domestic hi-tech industry, but it has led to warnings by the opposition in Taiwan that the island’s own industry is being hollowed out.
The fear is more than justified. US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo recently called the US dependence on Taiwanese chips “untenable” and “unsafe”…” Don Bacon@109
That pretty well explains why war over Taiwan is so unlikely. The imperialists want one but there is nothing in it for Taiwan, except for a few fanatical throwbacks to the 50s who will always resist anything to do with the Communists.
From Taiwan’s point of view a future in China is full of promise, sharing in the country’s rapid growth and specialising in certain critical economic functions, while negotiating protections for unique cultural and social matters from Beijing.
It is most likely that the people who work in the chip sector, including those who manage and own it are likely to see that dependence in the US is a lot more dangerous- economically and otherwise- than getting out from under the protective arm which is working so well for the ‘allies’ in Ukraine.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 24 2023 15:48 utc | 112

bevin | Apr 24 2023 15:48 utc | 111
From what I see of it, it is not throwbacks to the 50’s that are the problem, rather it is the younger woke generation.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 24 2023 15:55 utc | 113

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 24 2023 6:23 utc | 86
PS. He did mention several times he is at odds with family members some of whom are in the administration. And they might have been appointed to help provide the ‘CIA don’t do assassinations’ cover story. Or they might be scared into it too.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 24 2023 15:59 utc | 114

Don Bacon @108-9–
Thanks for those postings. Once outside Taiwan, what will drive innovation with so few STEM grads within the Empire? And where is that $40 Billion going to come from? Here’s some interesting info from TSMC’s Wiki:

In November 2020, officials in Phoenix, Arizona in the United States approved TSMC’s plan to build a $12 billion chip plant in the city. The decision to locate a plant in the US came after the Trump administration warned about the issues concerning the world’s electronics made outside of the U.S. In 2021, news reports claimed that the facility might be tripled to roughly a $35 billion investment with six factories [12+35=47]….
In December 2022, TSMC announced its plans to triple its investment in the Arizona plants in response to the growing tensions between the US and China and the supply chain disruption that has led to chip shortages. In that same month, TSMC stated that they were running into major cost issues, because the cost of construction of buildings and facilities in the US is four to five times what an identical plant would cost in Taiwan, (due to higher costs of labor, red tape, and training), as well as difficulty finding qualified personnel (for which it has hired US workers and sent them for training in Taiwan for 12-18 months.) These additional production costs will increase the cost of TSMC’s chips made in the US to at least 50% more than the cost of chips made in Taiwan….
In 2020, TSMC announced a planned fab in Phoenix, Arizona, the US, intended to begin production by 2024 at a rate of 20,000 wafers per month. As of 2020, TSMC announced that it would bring its newest 5 nm process to the Arizona facility, a significant break from its prior practice of limiting US fabs to older technologies. However, the Arizona plant will not be fully operational until 2024, when the 5 nm process is projected to be replaced by TSMC’s 3 nm process as the latest technology. At launch it will be the most advanced fab in the United States. TSMC plans to spend $12 billion on the project over eight years, beginning in 2021. It will create 1,900 jobs directly. [My Emphasis]

It seems the $40 billion is old news. That costs are so much greater merely confirms what Dr. Hudson has said over the last decade plus that the USA’s economy isn’t competitive. So, for the sake of national security, component costs will be 4-6x greater than before further fueling already out-of-control inflation. Also note that the deal to make this move was done under Trump, not Biden, and that it was given to an anti-labor state. The only plus seems to be that nearby ASU is an engineering university where new talent might be recruited from.
It’s very possible that by 2024, Mainland China will have mastered 3nm and be moving beyond that to the next level given the current policy incentives to develop and modernize. And of course, this is just one of many tech areas driving change where the decided advantages already reside in Eurasia.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2023 16:06 utc | 115

France is currently lying at the UNSC meeting. I was heartened by Japan’s speech and all the Africans. It seems by assumptions as what would transpire were correct.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2023 16:11 utc | 116

Tucker Carlson has quit FOX News.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2023 16:25 utc | 117

RT reports that RFKjr has thrown down the gauntlet and vowed to “unwind US Empire”:

Chief among Kennedy’s campaign proposals, as noted in a six-point plan published on his official website, would be drawing a line through US military interventionism abroad and “start[ing] the process of unwinding [an] empire.”
“We will bring the troops home. We will stop racking up unpayable debt to fight one war after another. The military will return to its proper role of defending our country,” the plan stated, adding that “America cannot be an empire abroad and a democracy at home.”
Regarding the Ukraine conflict, Kennedy stated that the US mission is “to end the suffering of the Ukrainian people.” However, he argued that Ukrainians are “victims” not just of Russia, but also of “American geopolitical machinations going back to at least 2014.”

Will BigLie Media report this, ignore or distort it?

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2023 16:32 utc | 118

Israel has horrendously expensive water desalination plants that are turning the eastern Mediterranean into another dead sea, and with US assistance to the tune of some $13,000 a year per Israeli Jew can afford exorbitant water fees. Palestinians cannot. So they give their thirsty children nitrate laden water and they die.
Posted by: Hermit | Apr 24 2023 6:38 utc | 88
I thought Israel was sharing some of the desalinated water with the Palestinians, but I should have known better. However, now that the Palestinians received no benefit from the desalination plants all three of them should go to the to top of Hezbollah’s missile hit list. Taking them out would help the environment too.

Posted by: Chas | Apr 24 2023 16:39 utc | 119

Free speech in the UK could soon be a thing of the past.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/tower-twitter-uk-minister-calls-jailing-social-media-bosses-who-do-not-censor-speech/5816831

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 24 2023 16:44 utc | 120

karlof1 | Apr 24 2023 16:32 utc | 117
If RFK is genuine then he is a fool. US ceased being a democracy at the last election. Trump as the sitting president was de-platformed. Although he could always fill stadiums, he had no access to media of any kind.
The Hunter Biden laptop buried, the mail in voting irregularities, conspiracy theory or real? I am now inclined to think that was real, that dummy votes were sent in in a number of regions.
US is now firmly led by a criminal deep state and Americans will need to use force to remove them. US, or here in Australia, anywhere in the western world, people have had their heads pumped full of this word democracy and that blinds them to what is going on.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 24 2023 16:48 utc | 121

Tucker Carlson has quit FOX News.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2023 16:25 utc | 116
What next? The Presidency?

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 24 2023 16:58 utc | 122

Peter AU1 | Apr 24 2023 16:48 utc | 120–
Thanks for your reply. I read your messenger and looked at the Russian UN site to see if I could find what you referred to but had no luck, although I did find this from 5 April.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2023 17:02 utc | 123

@Scorpion | Apr 24 2023 7:36 utc | 91
Added to my Usually Recommended News Sources
https://sitrepworld.info/ Useful aggregator (historical site One Democratic World here https://legacy.sitrepworld.info/Home.html) Secondary verification required.

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 24 2023 17:10 utc | 124

I thought Israel was sharing some of the desalinated water with the Palestinians
Posted by: Chas | Apr 24 2023 16:39 utc | 118

Sure they share the water. They pass it though their kidneys first.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 24 2023 17:14 utc | 125

Peter AU1@112
I meant mental throwbacks to the 50s. The ‘woke’ bigots are very similar to the neo-Victorians who blighted our youth in the 50s: straight-laced, humourless, hungry for powerful arses to lick (Royals in particular), true believers in the Imperial mission, intent on silencing anyone with ideas of his own. And of course, dripping with the redeeming blood of the saviour.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 24 2023 17:17 utc | 126

@karlof1 | Apr 24 2023 16:06 utc | 114
Just as genetic researchers fled to Europe, India and China when the Bush administration blocked genetic research (and have not returned), at least four of our friends have retired from tenured positions at Ivy League universities, because, when Chinese and Russian students were “dissuaded” from studying in the USA by Trump and Biden, American students did not have the background or mental capacity needed for postgraduate studies in Engineering, Physics or Computer Science, leaving their courses unsubscribed. Two of them are now teaching in China.

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 24 2023 17:26 utc | 127

I think it would be interesting to read articles and updates on this topic on the portal https://tafsilar.info/

Posted by: tafsilar.info | Apr 24 2023 17:36 utc | 128

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2o5UKQf54fI
Tucker out. Hmmm.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 24 2023 17:42 utc | 129

https://legacy.sitrepworld.info/Home.html) Secondary verification required.
Posted by: Hermit | Apr 24 2023 17:10 utc | 123
Not sure what that means but his email is there I think

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 24 2023 17:43 utc | 130

Karl, I went through the transcript and flicked through the linked video of the meeting but did not see it. Possibly a different meeting. This is the link to Nebenzia holding up a Ukraine school textbook at the UN.
https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1649475006391263242?cxt=HHwWlICx3e2xjuQtAAAA

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 24 2023 17:46 utc | 131

The BIG Geopolitical/Geoeconomic move to come …. China/India
What does 18th China-India Corps Commander Level Meeting indicate?: Global Times Editorial
The Chinese and Indian militaries held the 18th round of China-India Corps Commander Level Meeting on Sunday. According to the important common understanding of the leaders of both countries, the two sides held in-depth exchange of views on expediting the resolution of relevant issues. The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation defense ministers’ meeting will be held soon in India. There is widespread anticipation that the defense ministers of China and India will meet on this occasion. Therefore, many analysts believe that the latest negotiations between the two militaries sent a positive signal and will create a good atmosphere for further high-level contacts between the two countries.
Since the border friction between China and India broke out in early May 2020, it has been going on for nearly three years. During this period, the two sides have held multiple high-level meetings, 18 Corps Commander Level talks, and several bilateral consultation and coordination meetings. At the same time, the two militaries achieved disengagement at four locations, including the Galwan valley. Although making breakthroughs is a difficult and slow process, the two sides have established a broad consensus through “marathon-style” negotiations, which is to promote the stabilization of the border situation through dialogue.
[,,,] Washington is clearly leaning toward India, trying to provoke and escalate China-India conflicts. Not only have US media reported that intelligence agencies got involved, but politicians in the Congress have also started to interfere in, “affirming” India’s stand on the disputed territory issue, and think tanks have suggested bringing the territorial disputes between China and India into the scope of their so-called Indo-Pacific Strategy. To be frank, these actions by the US are like sugar-coated poisons for India. While this so-called support may seem to give India some “momentum” in the short term on the border issue, Washington, which is good at using offshore balancing to provoke conflicts for profit, will actually lead New Delhi into a dangerous situation that is not in line with its own interests.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202304/1289739.shtml

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 24 2023 17:51 utc | 132

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 24 2023 17:10 utc | 123
Not sure what that means but his email is there I think
Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 24 2023 17:43 utc | 129
Try removing the trailing right parentheses on the URL.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 24 2023 17:56 utc | 133

If RFK is genuine then he is a fool. US ceased being a democracy at the last election. Trump as the sitting president was de-platformed.


Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 24 2023 16:48 utc | 120

With respect, that’s not quite right. The ‘Christian’ West scuttled Democracy when “Privatise Everything” Neoliberal AmeriKKKa decided, in the mid to late 1970s, that politicians should be Privately Owned by Donors. And the daydreams of voters and Trade Unions could be safely ignored, ridiculed and crushed.
If RFK becomes Prez, keeps his promises and gets bumped off, the US Revolution will make the French Revolution look like a Sunday School picnic.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 24 2023 17:57 utc | 134

” when Chinese and Russian students were “dissuaded” from studying in the USA by Trump and Biden, American students did not have the background or mental capacity needed for postgraduate studies in Engineering, Physics or Computer Science, leaving their courses unsubscribed. Two of them are now teaching in China.
Posted by: Hermit | Apr 24 2023 17:26 utc | 127 ”
Why would Russian and Chinese students study in the West when the Chinese and Russian educational systems are far superior ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 24 2023 19:31 utc | 135

I’ve been on a geopolitical I Ching kick the past few weeks. It has been fun looking at the world through the eyes of old perspectives and vice versa. Coming to end end. But when news of Tucker Carlson’s exit from Fox broke I did a cast based on EST time. Interesting little co-incidences with 64,6 Before Ending leading to 40 Relief with internal Nuclear of 63 After Ending.
The commentary for the Primary hexagram 64 is the only one which features a FOX, indeed the fox is a star!
The changing line at the top in a Fire-Sun trigram indicates that the visible one of the two (the front/anchor man) left in an ‘over the top’ fashion but the result has to do with Relief, like that after a thunderstorm.
Before Ending can mean, in this context, that things could not keep going this way, they couldn’t come to a proper fruition. The last two hexagrams, like the first two, deal with fundamental principles as well as immediate situations. So this is sort of a big deal.
The commentary also indicates that the fox, in getting its tail wet, doesn’t come out of this with the results that it wanted. My suspicion is that Tucker was made offers that he felt he had no choice but to refuse.
Glenn Beck – who popped up on my Youtube offerings when the news broke and seems to have grown a huge head of white hair in only a few years – said that when he had to leave suddenly he was not fired but given his contractually required severance pay – both parties agreed they could not work together. Tucker has often said that he works without editorial oversight. Quite possibly they were trying to exercise some given some of his emails were used in a lawsuit they just settled for over 700,000,000. Ouch! Even for Fox.
Anyway, the Yi is saying that Tucker is the one who left, that he is relieved and that for Fox things didn’t end they way they wanted. Sounds about right.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 24 2023 19:54 utc | 136

France, protests, live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvmYN0rJXa0

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 24 2023 20:02 utc | 137

Scorpion, you ask the question, then you throw your yarrow sticks and from them you assess the divination. What happens if at the same time a number of other people ask the same question, throw their sticks and do their interpretations. Will there be similarity of results?

Posted by: Ново З | Apr 24 2023 20:22 utc | 138

If RFK becomes Prez, keeps his promises and gets bumped off, the US Revolution will make the French Revolution look like a Sunday School picnic.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 24 2023 17:57 utc | 134
I think we are on the same page. But to me there is something about being a live winner vs a dead martyr. JFK changed nothing in the American system.
I remember an interview with Putin were he was asked about how he felt when Yeltsin appointed him PM then president. He said “A hanged man cannot drown”. He fully understood what he was going into. He made no moves prior to the election as oligarchs controlled the media. The oligarchs did not see him as a threat and media coverage was favorable. Then and only then, after he had become elected president he destroyed them. Separated state from business.
But to do that, he had the respect of the uncorrupted sections of intel and military.
Those that are not part of the US deep state, like Trump and RFK, if they do not have the backing of intel and military, they are up shit creek without a paddle.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 24 2023 20:26 utc | 139

Peter AU1 | Apr 24 2023 17:46 utc | 131–
The tweet is dated 21 April so the presentation was probably earlier given the time stamp, etc. IMO, the best way would be to email the delegation and ask as opposed to hunting hither and yon.
Hermit | Apr 24 2023 17:26 utc | 127–
Thanks for your reply and its evidence. That subject’s been discussed here since 2016 if not before. I made it a point to provide evidence from Russia that math is hard there too and special efforts and incentives are required to attract potential talent. When I reentered college in 1996 at 41, I was still attracted to the science track but I would’ve had to take 5 years worth of math to get back up to speed, and that was far too long, so I went with what was my own coursework design–history heavy humanities with teaching and ESL components that totaled 156 units/credit hours Summa Cum Laude. Of course, I had to take some sciences to move forward so I chose Geology and Geography which fit very well with my customized major. I consider myself literate in science, which works for my purposes.
Don Firineach | Apr 24 2023 16:58 utc | 122–
Funny you mention that as I’d thought of that possibility several weeks ago. I bet he goes freelance.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2023 20:46 utc | 140

From CNN:
The Ukrainians face an enemy weaker than it has been for months, with the Russians even sending wounded convicts back to fight on the frontline, according to accounts from convict recruits.
Kyiv’s forces have better weaponry and training from NATO than ever before. And they surely have good, real-time information from their Western allies to pry open any advantage.
And the silence that we see now – the near total absence of TikToks or commentary from the Zaporizhzhia front line – may be the clearest indicator yet that this vital step is afoot

Or this is really bad propaganda out of “This.Is.Pure Trash inc.” or it is, as in badly written admission, very short of proclamation of an joint NATO/Ukraine attack on RF.
In both cases a pile of deadly lies, with a really sad outcome for NATO and its “innocence”.
Any day now.

Posted by: whirlX | Apr 24 2023 21:07 utc | 141

Deplorable: Not enough room in Chinese universities—everyone in academe knows this. Probablybthe same is true re Russia.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 24 2023 21:52 utc | 142

Scorpion, you ask the question, then you throw your yarrow sticks and from them you assess the divination. What happens if at the same time a number of other people ask the same question, throw their sticks and do their interpretations. Will there be similarity of results?
Posted by: Ново З | Apr 24 2023 20:22 utc | 138
This method is based purely on time. No sticks. Each hour things re-arrange. I used it once on lunar New Year’s in 2022. At 8.30 AM we had a fairly large earthquake. So I used this time method and got Double Thunder – quaking below, quaking above!
The whole thing is ridiculous, but coincidences like that keep happening. People have been puzzling over these patterns for millennia. They are based on a simple but profound insight that our relative world – the world of living beings dwelling the realm of experiencing – is binary, or has polarity. Coins have two sides, put it that way, but that principle runs through everything. They made a symbolic language that is part visual part mathematical out of this insight. When you spend time with the hexagrams you start to see relationships with different shapes and patterns which shapes and patterns in everyday life which in turn reveal basic principles.
Water is just water, but also the qualities of water reveal various different aspects of reality, both physical, emotional and spiritual. It yields, it flows, its outside can be easily penetrated but its core is the source of all organic life forms, it can flow around any obstacle over time and reaches its journeys end. And so forth. Fire on the other hand is most intense on the outside but hollow, sometimes almost cool on the inside in the blue center. So it radiates outwards and upwards, whereas water concentrates inward and downward. We can see these sorts of dynamics in plant shapes, as well as emotional styles, qualities and outcomes. Everything relates to everything and yet everything comprises limitless differences and particularities. The yin-yang lines are a way of mirroring this. Some can read tea leaves. Others read hexagrams.
It’s best not to try to determine whether it’s art, science or hocus pocus. Just like one can only go so far contemplating who we are, where we are, what is going on. None of us know how we are made and yet here we all are. Some things just don’t get to be spelled out.
Meanwhile, the Gateway Pundit has a good and short piece on Tucker and why he had to leave this week.
I’ve worked my Reading summary for my little blog but not published it yet (forgive bad layout!):
EVENT: 2023-04-23 11:30 Tucker Carlson Out 64,6 > 63 <40
64 Before Ending > 63 After Ending < 40 Relief Nuclear 63 Primary 64 Derived 40
䷾ ䷿ ䷧

IMAGE
Water under Fire, Moon under Sun, repeated
Almost but not quite; departure before completion

JUDGMENT
The hexagram shows Water and Fire, repeated, alternating lines in almost ideal balance yet every line, unlike Nuclear 63, is in the wrong place.
The two parties have been intertwined but it become intertanglement.
The lower trigram Water is the place of heavy matters: Fox News Corp;
the upper trigram Fire where things are seen, stories told: Tucker Carlson.
The very top line changing is Tucker Carlson
as far away from Fox News as he possibly could be,
so much so that he left.
According to Confucius’ commentary things did not go the Fox’s way
so most likely Tucker is the one who walked.
This split creates both Shock (Thunder ☳) and Relief (40).
The Nuclear 63 – After Completion – indicates
an important dynamic
has come to an end.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 24 2023 22:16 utc | 143

@Don Firineach, #132:
The Sino-Indo Corp Level Dialogue has been going on and off since 2017, right after the start of the India instigated Doklam Incident. Resolution of this conflict would depend on sincerity, which India doesn’t want to show. Therefore, this 18th meeting is just another meeting held for show and wouldn’t amount to much. The GT editorial was published just to embellish the position; hoping against hope.
India has sentimental-based complex against China, basically arising from the 1962 conflict. They blame China for assisting Pakistan, for not adhering to the colonial border delineation done by their British overlord, for anything they can think of to demonize China, both for relieving their own frustration of not being able to even the 1962 score as well as to appease the Empire. Like Japan and Taiwan, Indians are willing to be Empire’s cannon fodder with alacrity as regards China.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 24 2023 22:18 utc | 144

” Deplorable: Not enough room in Chinese universities—everyone in academe knows this. Probablybthe same is true re Russia.
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 24 2023 21:52 utc | 142 ”
Although, this might be true for China I strongly doubt thats the case in Russia.
From what I’ve been reading the Chinese students who cant make it in Chinese universities get sent to Western schools as a back up plan. Strangely, studying in the West might also be some kind of status symbol back home for both the Chinese and Russians.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 24 2023 22:20 utc | 145

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-blasts-fox-news-for-ousting-tucker-carlson-and-presents-an-interesting-theory-on-why-it-happened/
The article about why he left, a theory proffered by RFK whom Tucker interviewed after he announced his candidacy, when none of the other majors would do so.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 24 2023 22:30 utc | 146

Read “The Ambassador & the Hit List at Consortium News”. It is a small reminder of the vast numbers of good people, the best in their societies, the Lumumbas and Guevaras, who have been killed, often after being tortured by imperialist chartered assassins.
In this case those murdered included six Australian journalists-that wouldn’t happen today.
After the recent death of veteran Australian diplomat Richard Woolcott, Peter Job says the historical record leaves him an unquiet grave.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/04/24/the-ambassador-the-hit-list/

Posted by: bevin | Apr 24 2023 23:06 utc | 147

I’m quite surprised to see those few voices here talking about Kennedy as if the messenger were important, in contrast to the vastness of the message he carries.
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. speaks in this short clip about the meaning of his father and uncle, and how they both knew that that were in a high-stakes game, and that, as veterans of combat in war, they both believed that there were objectives that were higher than life, that were worth the price of death:
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Reflects On The Assassination Of JFK & RFK
Kennedy, the younger, looks to these men and knows that he is a Kennedy, and perhaps the greatest honor of this is not in the living as a Kennedy but in the dying as a Kennedy.
And so, compelled by honor and an ethos of fair play for all humanity, Bobby Junior now steps forward, offering his life, if that’s what it takes, to present a message.
They may kill the messenger, but what mattered only, and ever, was his message.
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Of course, they can’t kill him. That would make the message obvious even to the brainwashed. That could be the final straw in many ways. They know this. Kennedy knows this.
They’ll wash him out in the primaries. And the Democratic Party will reveal itself in all its craven ugliness and detestable nature for the can of worms that it is, while the puppet alternative to RFK is ushered in.
And Kennedy knows this. He presents himself as a Democrat because he represents what that party used to stand for, in an earlier day. He reminds the party, and the country and the world, that one person still exists who believes in those earlier principles.
It is the ultimate shaming of the Democratic Party, and they will do it to themselves, over his sacrificial appearance in the fray.
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Kennedy is the sacrifice, and he offers himself as the sacrifice, no matter who takes him down, no matter what stops him, no matter how they manage to shackle him.
He has lived a life of purpose and substance. In just the last 2-3 years he has given us the truth of Fauci and the AIDS epidemic, as the playbook for the Covid episode, and he has given us Turtles All The Way Down, as the definitive reference story of vaccines. And all before this, he fought many a fight and won several – all to the benefit of the otherwise un-championed people of his country, and the world.
Now he does a thing that was called for in the 1960s, by Mario Savio, that there comes a time when you must put your body on the gears of the machine, to stop the machine:
Mario Savio – Rage Against the Machine
And so, Robert Kennedy, man of honor, heeds the call, and answers.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 25 2023 0:14 utc | 148

Grieved @148–
I hope you don’t mind, but I copy/pasted your excellent words to my VK Wall for others to read. I also provided the RT article announcing his intention to end the Outlaw US Empire’s Empire. Now, we’ll see if my commentary remains blocked.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 0:36 utc | 149

Today’s Alastair Crooke is, “Europe Has Lost Its Guiding Myth”, which I thought a curious title since so many myths permeate Europe. Of course, Crooke’s referring to the Greek and Roman myths, the latter being wholly contrived as some of us know. Also as some of us know, myths and religions are formulated to provide answers to humans for unexplainable phenomena. Some, like the Roman myth The Aeneid, however, are manufactured for contemporary political reasons which are then abused in the pursuit of power, like the Outlaw US Empire’s Manifest Destiny, and the current myth of the “rules based world system.” After showing the current NATO outlook to be delusional, Crooke warms to his topic theorug this citation:

Historian Paul Veyne, a towering figure in the history of the ancient Roman world, once posed the question: Did the Greeks Believe in Their Myths? All societies, he wrote, contrive to some notional distinction between ‘truth’ and ‘falsity’, but in the end, according to him, this too, is just another ‘fishbowl’, the one we happen to inhabit, and it is in no way superior, as a matter of epistemology, to the fishbowl in which ancient Greeks lived and made sense of their world, in no small part through myths and stories about the gods. [Emphasis Original]

After further deliberation, Crooke is able to make his next two important points:

The implication of Veyne’s analysis is that Rome is false as a comparison to support the ‘myth’ of the inevitability of U.S. primacy: The ‘mythical’ neo-con approach of course is instrumentalised to convince us all that U.S. primacy is ordained (by the gods?), and that Russia is low hanging fruit – a fragile rotten structure that easily can be toppled.
Do then the neo-cons believe their own myths? Well, ‘yes’ and ‘no’. ‘Yes’, in that the neo-cons are a group of people who come to share a common view (i.e. Russia as fragile and fissiparous), often proposed by a few ideologues deemed to be credentiallised. It is a view however, not based in reality. These adherents may be convinced intellectually that their view is right, but their belief cannot be tested in a way which could confirm it beyond doubt. It is simply based on a picture of the world as they imagine it to be, or more to the point, as they would like it to be.
Yes, the neo-cons believe their myths because they seem to work. Just look around. As the means of communication have become decentralized, digitized and algorithmic, contemporary culture has forced individuals into herds. There is no standing apart from this discourse; there is no thinking outside of the Tik-Toc feed; it gives rise to the formation of a pseudo-reality, severed from the World, and generated for wider ideological ends [The Narrative]. [Emphasis Original]

And finally we get to the grand Rovian fallacy of being capable of making your own reality against the actual reality:

The neo-con myth of Russia on the cusp of implosion makes no sense. But it is a picture of the world as the neo-cons imagine it to be, or more to the point, would like it to be. The shortcomings of the Ukrainian forces as detailed in (their own American) Intel leaks: They pretend not to notice – convinced, as Foreign Policy explains, that once the expected Ukrainian offensive launches, if “the Russian soldiers panic, causing paralysis among the Russian leadership … then the counter-offensive will be successful”. [Emphasis Original]
The more such delusional analysis is pursued, the more functional psychopathy will be exhibited, and the less normal it becomes. In short, it descends into collective delusion – if it hasn’t already. [My Emphasis]

Crooke then asks if an already divided Europe that’s cracking even further will attack China and why–has it become as delusional as the Neocons? Well, clearly there are some who are, but many more aren’t–those political/industrial players from Germany and France who want their nations to survive the EU’s Eurofascism and that of the Four Fanatics: Poland, and the three Baltics.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 1:10 utc | 150

And so, Robert Kennedy, man of honor, heeds the call, and answers.
Posted by: Grieved | Apr 25 2023 0:14 utc | 148
Marvellous post.
I met a mid-level Montreal politician who was scared off by simple means, something I had often imagined hypothetically. He found in his car before driving home after work a picture of his little girl in school that morning. Whether or not he was willing to risk all to win his campaign, he was not willing to risk the life of another, let alone his own daughter. RFKs decision to run puts all in his circle at grave risk. For this reason have long felt that any movement strong enough to have a chance to effect truly substantive reform needs to come from widespread principled and deeply felt support so that it cannot depend upon one person’s leadership.
To lead he must be a servant. A servant has to have a master and the master has to be as fully committed, nay more, than the servant. He is serving the idea of an ideal America, but that idea only has worth if the people are fully committed for in a Republic, by definition, ultimately they are master.
He will attract a powerful, spirited following by truly serving the heartfelt, bedrock aspirations and needs of the people who in turn match his authentic kindness and bravery with corresponding devotion and courage so that they can meet any and all obstacles surely in their mutual path.
When I consulted the YI about RFK in early April it gave 9 Taming Power of the Small leading to Taming Power of the Great. Both involve accumulation in a context of being in a weak position relative to significant potential or power. Perhaps if he stays under the mainstream radar without becoming too prominent too quickly he will develop a formidable following. Interestingly, a cast about President Xi’s motivation yielded the same 9 Hexagram. The ruler is a single yin-yielding line in the 4th place subordinate to the usual Ruler in the 5th place, surrounded by five strong yang lines. In other words, the restraining power of the small.
No easy answers.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 1:14 utc | 151

Sorry to go on but I just noticed:
The changing line in RFK’s 9 was the 5th adding another weak or soft line above his in the servant of the Ruler 4th line. This can be seen as a sign that he lifts the people up into the Ruling position especially since the resulting upper trigram in 26 is Mountain which is Earth made majestic and lofty, also having a sense of both stillness-calm and majesty in that a mountain’s peak touches heaven.
Anyway. I wish America well, and any who strive to save her. All humans have both angelic and demonic aspects, including each and every citizen. It is never entirely black. The materialist Power has gone too far, clearly. Time for the pendulum to swing back?

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 1:33 utc | 152

“…He presents himself as a Democrat because he represents what that party used to stand for, in an earlier day…’ Grieved@148
When was that? When the South was Solid for Democrats and segregation and the Primaries were All White?
As for his Covid record:wasn’t he on the same side as the anti-vaxxers and the Koch Bros? A believer in the herd immunity-let ‘er rip school of epidemiology?
I ask because I’m not certain.
Is he calling for ‘Medicare for All’ incidentally?
Just today I was reading about the 1964 coup in Brazil by the military, a coup, like that in Saigon in 1963 in which the President was killed and the coup co-ordinated with the US Embassy.
According to the US Ambassador Goulart reminded RFK of Jimmy Hoffa. I wonder who Hoffa was reminded of by Kennedy who, like Trump, was an acolyte of Roy Cohn.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 25 2023 1:40 utc | 153

Scorpion @ 152 Could you check on the Marvin Gaye v. Ed Sheeran copyright suit? It’s keeping me awake.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/24/arts/music/ed-sheeran-marvin-gaye-copyright-trial.html

Posted by: dh | Apr 25 2023 1:44 utc | 154

@ Grieved | Apr 25 2023 0:14 utc | 148 with the nice observations about Kennedy’s efforts…thanks
Very well stated and I may send it off to others like karlof1’s posting of it to his VK environment

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 25 2023 1:44 utc | 155

Posted by: dh | Apr 25 2023 1:44 utc | 154
I’d happily do a cast for you and natter on all night, ‘thinking out loud’ but NYT? Not my cup of T.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 2:10 utc | 156

Scorpion @156 “natter all night…”
Please don’t I need my rest. I’m a firm believer in the I-Ching. It probably saved my life at Woodstock. Told me to stay off the brown acid.

Posted by: dh | Apr 25 2023 2:15 utc | 157

Just wrote a letter to family member in Woodstock (NY). One of the best little towns in the US, IMHO.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 2:19 utc | 158

@158 Lovely place, Yasgur’s farm did get a little messy for a few days. .

Posted by: dh | Apr 25 2023 2:21 utc | 159

bevin | Apr 25 2023 1:40 utc | 153–
Your critique really is a biting commentary on the D-Party as only New Dealers come close to qualifying, while Truman was a mass of contradictions as were JFK, RFK and LBJ. Carter allowed Volker to kill Labor to save the bond holders, and the rest since are just fronts for Neoliberal Parasites. As such, RFKjr has a great deal to overcome, but the gist of Greived’s comment is correct–someone with balls needed to step into the fray regardless the personal cost and challenge ALL OF IT.
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Speaking of providing challenges, Dr. Hudson’s new book, The Collapse of Antiquity, challenges the long-held narrative about Greece, Rome and West Asia in a new interview in which he opens with these remarks:

Well, what Rome bequeathed to the West was creditor-oriented law. That really means the financial claims of the oligarchy, the 1% on the rest of the economy, instead of protecting the economy at large, which is very largely composed of debtors. So when you say you’re supporting the rights of creditors, that means their rights to deprive the rest of the economy, their debtors, of their liberty. That’s celebrated today as if it’s individualism. But individualism, certainly Roman style is not egalitarian; it’s oligarchic. The Roman idea of liberty was the privilege of the oligarchy to indebt, expropriate, and deprive the bulk of the population of its liberty, of its means of support, of its access to the land. That’s what made classical antiquity so different from the 3,000 years that had gone before in the ancient Near East, where there was the takeoff.
In all the rest of the ancient Near East, you had rulers restoring access to the land, cancelling the debts, and liberating the debt slaves. While Greece and Rome were developing from the 7th century BC to the 1st century BC, even in contemporary Babylonia, you had very little debt bondage. You did have slavery, largely girls who were captured in the mountains. The Sumerian and Babylonian word for slave is ‘mountain girl,’ but you didn’t have debtors, citizens falling into bondage for their debtors irreversibly.
What Rome did was make this loss of liberty, this dependency, this bondage, irreversible and permanent. And that really is what made Western civilization different from everything that went before, and we’re still in that period. [My Emphasis]

There’re many things said by Hudson I’ve never read before, and I’m not going to be a spoiler for others. The link is there; click it and enjoy learning.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 2:33 utc | 160

Missed it. Was a forlorn and poncy little schoolboy in Harrow on the Hill. Strange. But it gave me a sense of Victorian culture which they were only just beginning to transition out of by the late 60s when I was there. My first week I sat in the original old school classroom at a desk which Lord Byron had carved his name deeply into. Maybe. Looked old. The desks were that old for sure. He, like Winston, another famous pupil there, hated it too! Lovely place to be miserable in! England’s largest swimming pool we called ‘Ducker’ for some reason. And her largest private library. Huge cricket grounds for several hundred, 10 games at once. Not all bad!
The Head Boy, with a full set of manly whiskers at 18 years of age, was Indie Coomeraswami, grandson of an Indian PM. My roommate one term was a ferocious fully whiskered 15 year old bully and pervert, something Iqbal, with curiously graceful fingers and eyelashes, scion of a Pakistani leader. Indie was all class. Iqbal was a monster who was expelled soon after. I confess my attitude about Pakistan has never softened since!

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 2:44 utc | 161

Posted by: dh | Apr 25 2023 2:21 utc | 159
Whoops. My last was in reply to dh, Sleepless in Woodstock.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 2:51 utc | 162

Latest from Gonzalo Lira on Tucker Carlson firing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Admbn2ciKDk
I don’t always buy what Lira’s selling, but I think he nailed it. This is a seminal moment – a disaster for any sort of pushback against the narrative shapers.
Dissent to the narrative will now have to be found in the blogosphere, and scattered alt-media channels at risk of de-platforming.
Enjoy this bar while you can!

Posted by: Chris | Apr 25 2023 3:00 utc | 163

@161 Interesting. Believe it or not I was at an English Grammar school for a few years. I only recall one fellow pupil being from India. Good cricketer. He was considered quite exotic at the time. Somebody will tell us to STFU in a minute.

Posted by: dh | Apr 25 2023 3:05 utc | 164

@153 bevin | Apr 25 2023 1:40 utc
I rarely speak directly to you and always with immense respect, as now.
Your questions, to me, represent what I meant by looking to the messenger rather than to the message.
I’m trying to say that…within the ordinary story line, the deus ex machina just appeared on stage.
We don’t stop the ask the deus its platform. Rather, we remain captivated by the sudden appearance, blinded by the light of what just happened.
So, regardless of specifics, that’s my point – the import of his appearance. We only note his arrival on the scene, his appearance in the space. This is what we ponder, and marvel at. An icon appears in a charged atmosphere. What electricity could this produce?
~~
We’re not looking for just another political run on just another political platform. This is not ordinary, and we don’t seek ordinary outcomes. It doesn’t matter if he becomes president. But if he hands down the mythos of goodness to the most recent generation that is now too far removed from JFK to appreciate that mythos, then that alone is enough. Truly, enough.
We are in the realm of myths. And our hearts are still broken, those of us who are still alive. We would adore to see justice, we yearn to see justice – but we expect no such thing.
But the continuance of that longing for justice will be legacy enough, for these impoverished grandchildren, in this impoverished age.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 25 2023 3:45 utc | 165

There’re many things said by Hudson I’ve never read before, and I’m not going to be a spoiler for others. The link is there; click it and enjoy learning.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 2:33 utc | 160
Terrific article. Reading through I was thinking: wouldn’t it be great if he could report on what Xi did in China recently with the anti-corruption drive. I wonder if he could break down the various major elements in play similar to how he describes the autocracy-democracy-oligarchy dynamic.
Seems to me the American equivalent of monarch-tyrant (someone who can clean out the oligarch-infested stables) is the Presidency. But it was always questionable and now is a joke. Without that sort of jubilee-starting-over ability, the tendency of power imbalance to increase ad infinitum is inexorable. Though of course when things get too imbalanced they will stop functioning. I personally suspect the elites in the West know this and their Reset agenda has something to do with engineering a type of jubilee situation in the form of economic collapse whilst retaining the ability to remain on top owning more rubble than anyone else who owns none and who only gets paid a pittance for cleaning it up and rebuilding for the benefit of the same rentier oligarch class. Something like that. Classic example of having cake and eating it, whilst others live off leftover crumbs.
Also, though no doubt he writes about this elsewhere, in this article he talks about the (negative) power of indebtedness having a downward momentum that at some point becomes dysfunctional for the elites etc. but he doesn’t describe the flip side of that same dynamic much, namely the negative power of credit. As creditors increase their relative share of theh national productivity pie, they reduce the share of the rest whilst still needing to do something with that increasing share.
This is perhaps one of the principal driving forces behind your plunder principle because having impoverished your own immediate area you have to go elsewhere to get return on the investments you make from the relative excess rentier income you make from domestic sources. When too many people have to spend too high a percentage of their earnings on debt and taxes (same thing often), there is less extra transactional velocity and value circulating domestically. So have to go abroad. Or import large numbers to create growth (a big part of the US model the past two centuries).
So credit has appetites to keep growing because it becomes addicted to maximizing return. The debtors payment is instant capital for a rentier class who have to do something with it lest it not get the greed-expected return. It can’t just sit there or, heaven forbid, be given away. Some good works, yes, but never more than a tithe at most.
It seems to me that a good polity has not only to be mixed, but also to manage cycles well. There will always be growth and decline cycles, indeed one cannot happen without the other. Similarly there will be sectors of the population rising whilst others are falling – relatively speaking. You can’t herd generations of crafty, conniving, creative, imaginative human beings into stasis. And I like his three-sided equation. It prevents falling into the trap of thinking there are just two sides, one up the other down. It’s more of a swirling dynamic with regular turbulence thrown in to muddy the waters further. This is not necessarily a plot, either, just the nature of complex systems.
Also, there is more to life than money and power and some cultures do – at least in part – get this even as they also have various healthy and unhealthy money and power dynamics in play. So there are other elements in the human tapestry, which materialist emphasis tends to overlook.
Where I live in a small town, the local population, many very poor, take great pride and pleasure in regular street processions and celebrations which clearly mean a lot to them. They great moments, special time. And time is all we have in our fleeting lives. Not much else. As Scrooge belatedly discovered one Christmas Even in Dickensalandia.
Take Europe: along with all the bad things which have been and can be said and done, many of the old towns, villages and farming areas are truly marvelous, not to mention all the craftsmanship and cuisine. Qualitative versus material treasure – like my local celebrations. I gather much of Eastern Europe is still like that though have never been. Such things came about because goodness was allowed expression by all levels of society. And of course parents love children and the land and their communities and children love them back and continue on in return. You can see it in so many villages and landscapes in Europe still (and most other countries of course). It’s not all about economics, though Hudson does a terrific job of explaining things in a fascinating, illuminating light.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 3:45 utc | 166

Pepe Escobar at his Telegram on Tucker Carlson cites this tweet from RFKjr:
“Fox fires @TuckerCarlson five days after he crosses the red line by acknowledging that the TV networks pushed a deadly and ineffective vaccine to please their Pharma advertisers. Carlson’s breathtakingly courageous April 19 monologue broke TV’s two biggest rules: Tucker told the truth about how greedy Pharma advertisers controlled TV news content and he lambasted obsequious newscasters for promoting jabs they knew to be lethal and worthless. For many years, Tucker has had the nation’s biggest audience averaging 3.5 million — 10 times the size of CNN. Fox just demonstrated the terrifying power of Big Pharma.”
Imagine RFKjr and Carlson on the POTUS ticket.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 3:55 utc | 167

Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 3:45 utc | 166–
Thanks for your reply. Now, while thinking of what you just wrote, read Crooke.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 4:00 utc | 168

An icon appears in a charged atmosphere. What electricity could this produce?
Posted by: Grieved | Apr 25 2023 3:45 utc | 165
Aye, there’s the rub, the yin and yang, the two it takes to tango. The icon doesn’t generate the electricity rather magnetizes it and in turn further electrifies those who provided that current. Without the context, the container, the medium, there is no flow, no resultant building wave.
Right now I see him has having truly extraordinary potential. I suspect for him to have a chance to realize that he and the country need time for that small flame to grow into a larger fire (in the positive sense), slowly and quietly as ordinary things do in natural reality. If he and the electricity-magnetization principle are exposed to the harsh lights of the natural samsaric phantasmagoric circus too soon, if the spotlights grab him before there is a real audience, the opportunity to build something genuine – which means for many people to have the opportunity to buy in at their own personal heart levels – will be snuffed.
But the potential is extraordinary, that’s for sure. If it is roughly reasonable to describe the nation politically as split between three elements, the Red, the Blue and the Indifferent Grey, all three – though perhaps the latter to a lesser extent due to their tepid nature – feel the country going down the drain alarmingly, most likely they believe because the opposing color is making it happen and they somehow have to vanquish them. The storylines have different words but the story arcs are almost identical. I suspect this has been deliberately engineered but if so it just involves skillfully manipulating natural human tendencies always in the mix.
To move through and beyond this incredibly negative, dispiriting dynamic is going to take a very soft touch. There is already way too much hardness in the mix. This is what needs to be transformed somehow. Usually, when encountering thick habitual patterns which have turned into obvious pain, the trick is to examine the pain, to feel it thoroughly, not run away or ignore. Only by feeling can things begin to open up a little. If this dynamic has real potential, there are going to be some tender, painful national teaching moments along the way as the nation learns to feel its humanity again.
Would help if people stopped following the news, but that’s been impossible since the days of ancient Egypt, Mesopatamia and everywhere else!

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 4:03 utc | 169

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 25 2023 3:45 utc | 165
Thank you, Grieved. Yes.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 25 2023 4:44 utc | 170

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 2:33 utc | 160
And thank you, karlof1 — I shall enjoy that link to the Hudson interview. I am so grateful for the opportunity I had after four years of Latin in high school to then study two of Greek in college. It all fell into my lap, and even before I go to your link, the distinction I felt between the two languages as a student I feel between western Christianity and eastern today. And ever since I’ve been online ‘making noise’ that has been my ‘beef’ with the world, that Christianity, true Christianity, is not what the west thinks it is.
I have been like Alyosha crying out to Ivan (his western educated brother) “But it’s not like that at all! That’s Rome, and not even all of Rome! Your Grand Inquisitor doesn’t believe in God! Ah, and maybe you don’t as well!” [Words to that effect; I’m not giving a direct quote.]
We come from different directions on this forum. Here, we touch bases.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 25 2023 5:04 utc | 171

Three minute video of US/Philippine Amphibious Assault Military Exercise in Palawan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0D-9bHDmQ0
Brooke’s Point is way down near the southern tip of the island on the east side.
“Strengthening the ties between the two nations.”
That’s one way of putting it.
China not mentioned.

Posted by: Walt | Apr 25 2023 5:50 utc | 172

@Deplorable Commissar | Apr 24 2023 19:31 utc | 135
I suspect that for many Warsaw block students it was the lure of opportunities in America as portrayed by Hollywood. As Einstein said, “I came to America because of the great, great freedom which I heard existed in this country. I made a mistake in selecting America as a land of freedom, a mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my life.” Only for many they were coming here for opportunities they could not find in their home countries – and often spend so much time reassuring themselves that the US is better that they end up convincing themselves that their home country was far worse than in reality, and so find a sense of satisfaction. The Chinese have a tradition that the first son studies at home and the second abroad. Then, once both are established, they trade, benefiting both and providing a path to migrate if necessary.
Whatever the grounds, many used to come to the US for their Masters and Doctoral programs, and a fair number remained behind, drastically improving US competitiveness. While Greencard lottery winners and asylum seekers often end up in low paid positions and trapped, along the lines of, “I came to America because I heard the streets were paved with gold. When I got here, I found out three things: First, the streets were not paved with gold; second, they weren’t paved at all; and third, I was expected to pave them”, immigrants who graduate in the US tend to do far better than the Americans who graduated with them. Then again, outside of quants and physicists who were lured here in the nineties, to work for ludicrously high salaries in the investment field, professionals who moved here at the peak of their careers often cannot stand the bullshit, “America the best at everything”, “God bless America”, religion and hypocrites everywhere, cardboard houses lacking any architectural merit, broken services, larcenous pricing, shoddy goods and service, poverty everywhere, insular thinking, extremely narrow expertise (but a tendency to imagine it extends to other fields), tolerance and wonder, as at a dog doing tricks, when Americans discover foreigners can do things, followed by extreme jealousy and backstabbing when the foreigners outperform the Americans, and in consequence many leave, rather than trying to acclimatize.

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 25 2023 6:08 utc | 173

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Posted by: Alfred (Hurghada) | Apr 25 2023 6:35 utc | 174

RSF is begging the US and other terrorist states for a no fly zone over Sudan. LOL.
https://twitter.com/cirnosad/status/1650794180762021890
The Sudanese army has imposed losses on the RSF at a rate that exceed those of any conflict in recent history.
https://twitter.com/cirnosad/status/1650795785808932864
The Sudanese army has imposed losses on the RSF at a rate that exceed those of any conflict in recent history.
https://twitter.com/cirnosad/status/1650793241804144640
Haven’t heard much of Sudan. But if you want a generalization, RSF is a US proxy and is getting a beating. Western countries are evacuating their embassies from Sudan. Sounds a lot like Afghanistan. Western politicians seem to worry that Russia will end up having more influence with the government in that country.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 25 2023 9:58 utc | 175

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 2:33 utc | 160
My first comment on Hudson’s interview, and it is an important one I feel is on his statement that “Aristotle said that democracies turn into oligarchies.” Well, Aristotle may have said this, but he is quoting Plato. It was Plato who takes his friends right through the beginning part of the dialogue which commences at the Piraeus, the incoming and outgoing port of Athens, with a short conversation between Socrates and an elderly wealthy citizen, Cephalus, on the subject of justice and the just man.
That important dialogue is Politeia**. I am alarmed that, so far in my partial reading of the interview, Hudson skips over Plato’s contribution. My question as I continue to read the interview will be, why does he do this? To my mind, Aristotle represents a lower and even distorted version of the truths being considered by Plato in this dialogue.
(There is even a dialogue written by Plato which uses Aristotle as one of the questionable questioners of Socrates. Search ‘Bernard Suzanne’ for his study on this subject.)
Another difficulty I am having is that ethics vs. practicalities seems to be the issue in Hudson’s mind. This makes sense in that we see the results of ignoring the latter. Yet also, there have been writings which suggest the importance of ethics in many historical instances which have survived in ways Hudson seems to suggest are distortions. I don’t buy it, even though distortion is most certainy currently in play. ‘Greed is good’ is a distortion; ethically, we know in our hearts it is not.
** Commonly translated ‘The Republic’, which breaks down to “Things Public”. The Greek definition has ‘polis’ not ‘things’. I’d loosely call it ‘Peopledom’.
Back I go to read the rest of the interview.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 25 2023 15:21 utc | 176

Mediaite reports that Tucker C was fired, so my little Yi interpretation that he walked was wrong. Surprise, surprise. Of course given that I associated him with the Fire trigram above I coulda-shoulda come to the simple conclusion: he was fired!
That said, it’s a blow to Fox. So most likely they asked him to change tack and he refused. In that sense, he fired himself by not going along with his employer’s wishes. So it’s most likely a mixed bag either way. And if he DID refuse, then of course it is in no small part thanks to his own initiative that he ended up leaving.
Apparently it was heavy pressure from advertisers that caused the Board to make him leave. That makes sense. Also makes sense that if the news is about to get really bad for the ruling classes, either defeat in Ukraine or an escalation of conflict into Taiwan area, then they would not want such an outspoken critic as the #1 News Anchor in the nation at that time. Internal memos released reveal that this is precisely why the then Nr. 1 new show host at NBC was fired, Phil Donahue. They didn’t want him criticizing the USG war policy.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2023 15:48 utc | 177

juliania @171&6–
Thanks for your replies. I suspect Hudson uses Aristotle more than Plato because the former has had greater impact on the Western world, but I’ll need to read his book to confirm that.
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Lots of outer space related news coming out of China due to a major conference occurring there: “China to build gigawatt-level space power station: leading expert”; “China details International Lunar Research Station building plans”; and “China releases first Mars global color images obtained from country’s first mission on Space Day”. Quite a lot of ambition is contained in those articles, and one can see why the Outlaw US Empire is concerned about China’s advancement since it threatens its Must Always Be #1 Doctrine. So, we can see there’re other reasons behind the Empire’s use of Taiwan as another Ukraine. Recall, China was barred from participating in the ISS program to keep it from gaining tech knowledge which was a huge mistake.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 16:57 utc | 178

Great piece on the firing of Tucker Carlson at Fox by Jimmy Gore, I certainly don’t agree with a lot of what Carlson believes in but he was the most truthful journalist of all the MSM. Now he probably starts his own platform and gets more viewers than Fox News, another decision blowing back on the US capitalist internationalist elites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjw9m1cG5S8

Posted by: Roger | Apr 25 2023 17:21 utc | 179

Continuing my reading at 176 of Prof. Hudson’s interview above, I see that the interviewer does restore Plato to the conversation. I haven’t finished reading, but will just comment on Prof. Hudson’s version of the first part of the “Politeia” dialogue. It is not quite correct. Plato begins with Socrates conversing with
the wealthy Cephalus, whose wealth as Cephalus describes it is a mean between his grandfather’s large accumulation, dissipated by his father, rebuilt by himself. Cephalus, like Hamlet, is concerned about what lies in wait after death. He excuses himself at a critical point to go placate the gods. His son takes up the argument as Cepalus’s heir. At one point, yes, he becomes confused, but along with Socrates he comes to an agreement that one should neither injure one’s friends nor one enemies. At no point does the inference to credit and debt made by Dr. Hudson (which may be appropriate but isn’t explicit) get spoken by Socrates as part of the argument. Instead, the agreement between the two participants, Polemarchus and Socrates, is forcefully interrupted by Thrasymachus, who is a ‘might makes right’ character in the dialogue.
At any rate, that opening conversation is a gem, and I’m grateful to Prof. Hudson’s interrogator for raising the subject. I’m not sure I’d have known how to respond without returning to look at the actual conversation — only, I do strongly feel there is much more to “The Politeia/Republic” than economics, although that is certainly how the entire dialogue begins. And on and on it goes.
In Prof. Hudson’s defence, economics does indeed underlie the conversation. For, Thrasymachus threatens a fine upon Socrates, which is paid by Glaucon, Plato’s brother, in order for the conversation to continue. Socrates himself doesn’t speak for pay and has no money.
All of these hints do charge what is being said with the overall knowledge of Socrates’ demise that permeates each of the dialogues and strengthens their message. Still, the dialogue isn’t entirely about economics, just as the life of Christ recorded by his disciples isn’t about re-establishing a jubilee year and perishing on the cross because of his quest to do so. Those may have been the motivations of their would-be-destroyers; thankfully they did not succeed. We still have them both.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 25 2023 17:31 utc | 180

South African ANC party votes to pull out of ICC.
It’s easy to remember the MSM narrative bragging on how they created difficulty for Putin to go to the BRICS meeting through the ICC, lol.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 25 2023 17:42 utc | 181

China Institute of International Studies:
“The foundation for political survival in the US is parasitically attached to Israel’s powerful Jewish forces and the various political actors that are inextricably linked to them” – Dong Manyuan

Posted by: ctagger | Apr 25 2023 18:01 utc | 182

juliania | Apr 25 2023 5:04 utc | 171
You might appreciate this.
“…“Oh, the European nations are unaware of how much we love them! I believe the generations to come after us will understand that to be a true Russian means to strive for all the European contradictions to be reconciled for ever, our Russian soul will be the way out from the European misery, ours is the soul omnihuman and all-uniting, and it will embrace all our brothers with love, and it will, perhaps, utter even the last word of general harmony, brotherly unity of all nations according to the law of Christ’s evangelical learning! If Pushkin had lived longer, he would have, perhaps, created great and immortal Russian characters, who would have been more intelligible to our European brothers, which would bring our brothers much closer than it is the case now; we might succeed in explaining all the truth of our pursuits to them, and that is how they would understand us better than they understand us now — they would stop looking at us, them being all so arrogant and with distrust the way they are doing now’….”
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/04/24/russia-and-the-west-or-who-cannot-understand-whom/

Posted by: bevin | Apr 25 2023 18:45 utc | 183

Lavrov isn’t allowing his time at the UN to be unproductive. He was on a roll again today on the issue of Occupied Palestine, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks at an open meeting of the UN Security Council on the situation in the Middle East, including the Palestinian question, New York, April 25, 2023:

Dear colleagues,
Ladies and gentlemen,
The Middle East today is undergoing a profound transformation, which is unfolding in a very contradictory way. More than ever, it is necessary to improve relations between the states of the region, stabilize conflict zones and step up efforts to resolve them politically and diplomatically based on the principles of the UN Charter.
Our position is set out in the new Concept of Russia’s Foreign Policy. We proceed from the priority of forming a stable and comprehensive architecture of stability and cooperation in the Middle East, as well as promoting interreligious and intercultural dialogue. We intend to develop active cooperation with all countries of the region both bilaterally and through our contacts with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, the League of Arab States and the Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Persian Gulf. We see a growing interest in Russia’s initiative to ensure collective security with the participation of all the coastal Gulf countries, both the Arabs and Iran, with the involvement of the “outer circle” of influential states.
We welcome the positive changes that until recently seemed difficult to achieve. I am referring, first of all, to the restoration of relations between Saudi Arabia and the Islamic Republic of Iran through the mediation of the People’s Republic of China, practical plans for Syria’s return to the “Arab family” (for which we have been working for a long time), and the normalization between Damascus and Ankara that began with Russian assistance using the advantages of the Astana format. Largely thanks to the proactive actions of Riyadh, steps have been outlined to accelerate the settlement of the bloody conflict in Yemen.
At the same time, we note with deep regret and concern that the Palestinian problem remains behind the positive changes. In initiating today’s meeting, we set ourselves the task of increasing attention to the unprecedented increase in tension and violence in the Arab-Israeli conflict zone. We believe that it is more important than ever to reaffirm the “common denominators” of the Middle East settlement, enshrined in the decisions of the Security Council and the General Assembly, to stop the threat of another armed confrontation and to clear the political horizon for the resumption of the peace process.
Events in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, East Jerusalem and the line of separation between Israel, Lebanon and Syria have raised tensions to extremely dangerous levels. Since the beginning of the year, more than 100 Palestinians have died as a result of military raids in Jenin, Jericho, Nablus, Huwar, clashes in connection with the violation of the status of the Holy Places, and thousands of wounded. The number of casualties among Israelis is also growing. What the representative of that country has just said.
The situation is exacerbated by Israeli strikes on Syria (at least 10 attacks in 2023), including the shelling of Aleppo airport, through which humanitarian aid is delivered to victims of the devastating earthquake on February 6 this year.
The main reason for the regular outbreaks of violence between Palestinians and Israel remains unilateral steps to create irreversible facts “on the ground” and the choice in favor of forceful methods of “protecting” these “facts”. It is impossible to ignore the record pace of construction of settlements with the legalization of outposts retroactively, the expropriation of land, the demolition of houses, arbitrary arrests. Equally, it is unacceptable to turn a blind eye to the growing radicalization of the “Palestinian street” and the deepening of the split between the main Palestinian parties, fraught with violent confrontation.
In such conditions, we consider it important to remove and prevent the symptoms of a worsening situation. We see it as an absolute imperative that all the leading players confirm that there is no alternative to a two-state solution that meets the right of the Palestinians to their own independent state with East Jerusalem as its capital and the right of the Israelis to peaceful and secure coexistence with their neighbours and in the region as a whole. Only a return to direct negotiations on all final status issues will be able to break the vicious circle of violence and radicalization and restore mutual trust.
However, instead of helping to restore the political horizon, the United States and the European Union continue their destructive attempts to replace the real world with some kind of economic half-measures and promote Arab-Israeli normalization, bypassing a just solution to the Palestinian problem and bypassing the Arab Peace Initiative. The Middle East Quartet of international mediators fell victim to such actions.
Now Washington claims to be the sole sponsor of the Middle East peace process, not embarrassed by the fact that it has long lost the neutrality and impartiality inherent in an honest broker, especially after the well-known decisions of the Trump administration, which directly contradict UN Security Council resolutions and which the Biden administration has not canceled.
The fact of non-compliance with Security Council resolutions – and not only on the Middle East settlement – deserves special mention, and in this connection. Not so long ago, the United States and its allies threw all their efforts to bring this issue to the debate in the UN General Assembly every time a veto was used on any issue in the Security Council. We did not object, although the idea was openly aimed at Russia. We have nothing to hide: when we use the veto, we clearly explain the reasons. We do not hesitate to repeat our arguments in the General Assembly.
But here’s the thing: the veto is an inalienable right, a full-fledged part of the mechanisms enshrined in the UN Charter. The use of the veto does not contain any violations.
Failure to comply with Security Council resolutions is a violation of the Charter. Namely, Article 25 of the Charter, which requires everyone to comply with the decisions of the Security Council. Maybe it’s time for those who openly bury the adopted resolutions to report to the General Assembly? Among the resolutions sabotaged by the West are the decisions on Palestine, the Golan Heights, Western Sahara, the Kosovo settlement, the Iranian nuclear programme and, of course, the Minsk agreements on Ukraine, which we discussed in detail yesterday.
Americans and Europeans are rudely speculating on the Ukrainian issue, trying to blackmail and threaten to pull developing countries to their side and thereby divert their attention from the problems of the Middle East and other regions of the Global South. Say, now we will defeat Russia, and everything will work out by itself. Thus, the crises in which developing countries have long been interested in resolving fall victim to the double standards and colonial instincts of the West, which is obsessed with selfish interests to dictate its demands to the whole world, ignoring the culture and traditions of other peoples, and mocking international law.
Let me quote an excerpt from US Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s interview with Walter Blitzer on February 8, 2021. Answering a question about the Golan Heights, the Secretary of State said that leaving aside the legal aspects of this issue, from a practical point of view, the Golan is very important for Israel’s security. As long as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is in power in Syria, as long as Iran is present in Syria, and there are militia groups supported by Iran, the Bashar al-Assad regime itself – all this poses a serious threat to Israel’s security, and from a practical point of view, I think that control over the Golan in this situation is still of great importance for Israel’s security. Legal issues are something else.
I quoted the statement of Antony Blinken, who twice said: “leave aside the legal aspects of this issue” and “legal issues are something else.” Here is an example of how resolutions are implemented and how the United States positions itself in our Organization in general.
In such circumstances, the role of the UN as a coordinator of multilateral diplomacy is especially in demand. We call on the leadership of the Secretariat and the Secretary-General personally to pay increased attention to compliance with the decisions of the Security Council, especially those related to the Middle East settlement. We would also like to see the Secretary-General more actively discharge his duties as moderator of the Quartet without waiting for “permission”.
Recently, the Secretary General proactively announced the convening of a meeting in early May of a meeting on Afghanistan. We support this. But why not just as proactively announce the convening of a meeting of the Quartet? This is in his prerogatives.
At the same time, we call on Israelis and Palestinians to cease all unilateral actions that jeopardize the possibility of implementing the two-state formula, including terrorist and other armed attacks, incitement to aggression, disproportionate use of force by anyone, illegal actions in connection with the settlement issue, attempts to change the status quo of Jerusalem.
We wish the Palestinian movements to rise above party ambitions and unite on the political platform of the Palestine Liberation Organization. That will make it possible to improve the socio-economic situation, strengthen administrative institutions and be ready to engage in dialogue with Israel on behalf of the entire Palestinian people. We know that our friends from Egypt, Jordan, Algeria and other colleagues are also working towards restoring Palestinian unity. We are also making efforts in this direction. We will continue them.
I would like to note the special role of Saudi Arabia as the author of the Arab Peace Initiative, the role of Jordan in the custody of the holy sites of Jerusalem, the role of the League of Arab States and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation. We attach absolute importance to the need to do everything possible to continue the effective work of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East.
Russia will continue to do everything possible to contribute to the stabilization of the Middle East and North Africa, to advance the Middle East settlement process together with the countries of the region and in coordination with other conscientious mediators. As always, we are open to discussing relevant initiatives as part of collective work at the UN.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 18:58 utc | 184

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 24 2023 22:18 utc | 144
I will remind everyone of the jataka story of the elephant and the conversations he hears. The place where the elephant was kept a few thieves gathered at night regularly and spoke bad things, the elephant went rogue and injured and killed a few men. The owner asked a knowledgeable man what to do? And according to his advice the owner changed the habitat of the elephant and placed him near a place where good discussions take place. The elephant became calm and behaved.
India is a place where the average iq is 82. Compared to the iq of china of 101, it is very less. Yet many Indians do great deeds compared to china. also many Indians do worse things compared to china. the jataka story explains that dichotomy.
almost all Indians carry two things, delusion of grandiosity and mental scars. mental scars result when the delusion of grandiosity is broken. 1962 china-india war provided a great mental scar. However delusion of grandiosity is like second nature to Indians.
In a future possible war between china and india, this delusion of grandiosity will come into play. There will be some spectacular failures, also some odds defying successes on india’s part. This delusion of grandiosity is what mr modi feeds the Indian people. However mr modi is promoting hindi at the exclusion of other languages. china can try to create a tamil caucus, a telugu caucus, an oriya caucus and what not. This unhealthy practice of the union govt of giving undue advantage to hindi speaking students an upper hand in civil and administrative services may prove to be the undoing of the union state of india.

Posted by: IndianAntiTroll | Apr 25 2023 20:04 utc | 185

Sudan timeline, from twitter. Would’t it be nice to have something sijilar for Ukraine?
AUG 24, 2022 – US Ambassador appointed to Sudan (Following a 25 year lapse)
SEPT 28, 2022 – US Ambassador warns Sudan against finalizing
Russian naval base deal
NOV 11, 2022 – Blinken urges Sudan to consider “US support for
the rapid formation of a civilian-led transitional government”
DEC 5, 2022 – UN brokers Framework Agreement between Sudan’ s
military leaders and leading pro-democracy parties
DEC 7, 2022 – Blinken threatens travel ban for Sudanese who
endanger Framework Agreement deal
FEB 12, 2023 – Sudan confirms deal for Russian naval base, key
players Lavrov and Burhan
FEB 16, 2023 – Biden Admin sends $288 million in humanitarian
ald to Sudan
MAR 9, 2023 – Victoria Nuland visits Sudan to “discuss democracy”
APRIL 8, 2023 – Conflict escalates between Sudanese Armed Forces (under General Burhan) and paramilitary group RSF (under Dagalo)
APRIL 22, 2023 – US evacuates Sudan
APRIL 24, 2023 – Blinken announces ceasefire

Posted by: Passerby | Apr 25 2023 21:28 utc | 186

Grieved re RFKjr
Thank you for your great prose and celebration of this leader in these times of change. I too trust that the spirit is with him. He has a deranged political party to overhaul and a great wall of capitalism to deconstruct as it has its foundations laid entirely on top of the Congress.
More power to your hand and spirit to craft these fine words.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 25 2023 21:48 utc | 187

Passerby #186

Sudan timeline, from twitter. Wouldn’t it be nice to have something similar for Ukraine?

Patience please.
Certainly the integration of the Russian Paramilitary force and the Russian Army is functioning well after a bout of jostling.
If Ukraine is to follow the Sudan formula the next step is for the establishment of a Russian Naval Base in Odessa. This is likely to occur in 2023 – 2024.
I doubt that Nuland need visit and Blinken would be a bit premature to be announcing a ceasefire anytime soon but I would not put that past him.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 25 2023 21:58 utc | 188

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 1:10 utc | 150
It has taken me a while to get back here, but thank you, karlof1 for your analysis of the Alistair Crooke article on myths. “Arma virumque cano…” I studied in high school the Aeneid, coping with Latin, which was not particularly hard, yet the impact the Iliad and Odyssey had later in college turned my Classic Comics perception of warfare on its head. I just have an instinctive feeling that mythology was on a far different plane in the Greek epic poems than in the Latin one — I can’t imagine a Classic Comic version of the Iliad, though I suppose there might have been one.
Still, Socrates was adamant that the epic poets not be admitted to the ideal state in Politeia, and that set me back considerably. He goes as far as to create his own myths at the end of some dialogues, correcting the suppositions of afterlife experiences and depictions of the gods. His own considerations of what ought to be taught as divine attributes form an important segment of Politeia. And what struck me in those sections was that Socrates, whilst decrying the portrayal of godlike figures can yet quote from memory passages with which his friends are as familiar as we would be with some Biblical texts today.
I liken this to what currently goes on in television portrayals that have such bias as no longer to be anything other than predictable. I don’t think that is because we have become jaded about these matters; it is because they are not portraying depth of character and thinkable conflicting personal attributes. They could be rendered as Classic Comics or by Disney. And tv, it has been pointed out, is a cave experience, not a thinking one. Makes me wonder if Edward R. Murrow was correct when he said, “This instrument can teach.”
Maybe not.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 25 2023 23:26 utc | 189

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXnkGeKBLqs
I came to this at the last. Thank you, Grieved. These heroes plus Martin Luther King were the speakers and movers of my generation. I was fortunate to be present, educated near Washington, DC when they also were there. Ignorant newcomer that I was, I studied the words of the revolutionaries who fought the redcoats. Bevin, they were what you embrace today. And to this man, they are family.
I honor him, along with those whose memory we cherish. He doesn’t know everything but what he knows goes deep and true.
This country needs him. This is the way home.
With the drawing of this Love and the voice of this
Calling
__We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

[T.S.Eliot, FOUR QUARTETS]

Posted by: juliania | Apr 26 2023 0:16 utc | 190

Trump’s boy Random Guaido landed in the USA seeking asylum. LMFAO
https://news.antiwar.com/2023/04/25/venezuelas-juan-guaido-lands-in-us-seeking-refuge/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 26 2023 0:20 utc | 191

Posted by: juliania | Apr 25 2023 23:26 utc | 189
The difference is that Socrates quoted from memory, which was a major part of the study of rhetoric. Memory training was a big part of rhetorical studies.
With today’s MSM and virtual learning and lifestyle, the objective is to expunge memory requirements from learning. Everything from doing mental arithmetic (now call math), use a calculator instead; remembering family and friends phone numbers and addresses, use a contact manager; to how does one get from point a to b eventhough they have done it a hundreds times.
People have been trained not to develop their memories. So the nightly news, politicians, academics, etc can dump what they want into these empty mental vessels watching television or what passes for that. Since they don’t possess any longer the capacity to develop critical memories without their being constantly reinforced; they can be programmed and reprogrammed very easily. They simply stop reinforcing their viewers with one set of memories and reinforce a different set of more suitable or useful memories. This happens very quickly, and the viewers feel they are very intelligent because this type of messaging always makes them feel knowledgeable.

Posted by: Jerr | Apr 26 2023 0:21 utc | 192

Posted by: Jerr | Apr 26 2023 0:21 utc | 192
Thank you, Jerr. But even in his own time, Socrates was singular. There was only one of him, and one was all that was needed for his students – Plato and even Aristotle. Most others even then were learning their rhetoric studies in order to profit from them. We know their names, and something of what they proclaimed, but we don’t know them as well as, if we read him carefully, we know from Plato what Socrates taught. And Socrates comes to life – the Politeia is spoken in his voice, as is his Apology. We are there in the courtroom with him, not with his accusers. Their silence speaks volumes.
The time of Socrates was like this time; they killed him.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 26 2023 0:48 utc | 193

juliania | Apr 26 2023 0:48 utc | 193
Yes, Socrates was special.
Yes, they killed him.
However, he was not a zombie.
They don’t kill zombies.
They enslave them.
Hopefully today’s choice isn’t death or become a zombie; if you want to live an honest life.

Posted by: Jerr | Apr 26 2023 1:00 utc | 194

@ Jerr | Apr 26 2023 0:21 utc | 192 with their description of what I know as agnotology (the manufacturing of ignorance)
Thanks for that perspective that many do not see
I think about what our species could be achieving without the conscious dumbing down and am saddened by the fact but hopeful it will end soon. As someone who has experienced the potential of mental health healing with bio-electric instead of the Big Pharma bio-chemical approach I only hope that the God Of Mammon shit show that is the social structure of the West/empire will end soon so the transition to bio-electric mental health care can blossom as it should.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 26 2023 1:10 utc | 195

We even have in our time one, or maybe several, Alcibiades. They are dangerous because they take what they learn to use unscrupulously and they begin as attractively as did Clinton and Obama – and maybe other politicians as well. They fool even the wise among us. Just as did the politicians in Socrates’ era.
I am hoping there will arise, not a great politician, but one who can find the thread of honesty and truth that runs through a country’s history in order to hold fast to the good and expose the charlatans, the carpetbaggers, for future generations. That’s the real education that’s needed not just for the youth but for everyone. I think Russia has people like this, and maybe China as well.
The world is watching. Like the phoenix, both those countries are rising. And we, we provide the alternative. Go forward, world! In peace!

Posted by: juliania | Apr 26 2023 1:23 utc | 196

ZH has a posting up with the title
Taibbi: Report On The Censorship-Industrial Complex
The quote

The material you’ll be reading in the next week or so is designed to accomplish two things. The first task we settled on was to create, through interactive lists and other features, a quantitative map of the world Shellenberger described in his written testimony, a censorship industrial complex that:
Combines established methods of psychological manipulation… with highly sophisticated tools from computer science, including artificial intelligence. The complex’s leaders are driven by the fear that the Internet and social media platforms empower populist, alternative, and fringe personalities and views, which they regard as destabilizing.
In pursuit of that first goal, organized loosely around a thing we’ve been calling “The List,” Racket welcomed people like Lowenthal and Geneve Campbell, (formerly of the Berkman Klein Center at Harvard). With their experience in the “anti-disinformation” space, Andrew and Geneve helped a team of journalists and researchers put together what we hope will be an accessible starter kit for everyday readers hoping to acquaint themselves with the biggest organizational names in the “CIC.”
The second goal had reporters like Aaron Maté, the Pulitzer Prize-winning Susan Schmidt, “The Hunt for Tom Clancy” writer Matt Farwell (a co-worker of my late colleague Michael Hastings), military-veteran-turned-reporter Tom Wyatt, the wonderfully obsessive Racket contributor Orfalea, and others attempt to tell the broader history of the new international censorship phenomenon.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 26 2023 5:25 utc | 197

I hope this is the other issues thread
B like other alt media observers points out the confused state of the usg.
I have grown more convinced over the years about a fundamental misconception that I believe part of the conservative americans are upholding.
Namely that their original economic strategy associated with Alexander Hamilton is mistakenly seen as being a sellout to Britains bankers. That is the US, a young nation, with an intention by its leaders to develop the economy by building infrastructure, needed powerful allies to have an incentive to want the same thing: a successful economic development of the US.
By allowing Britains bankers to obtain shares in the bank this mutual interest became a reality.
And I restrict my analysis to the earlier part of the US development and I dont defend what happened later when Palmerston was in the loop in Britain.
But what the americans who lament Alexander Hamilton omit is that this earlier phase probably wasn’t liked at all by the rest of the british imperial elite!
This meant that the new Nation developed into a rival faster than would have been possible without such an arrangement.
Would it have been possible if they instead had opted to print currency but without any neutral foreign investors having any incentive to desire this to be successful?
I think in that case that those foreign bankers might have been directed more towards trying to sink the US economy.
Was it realistic to avoid sharing the profits with those who mattered at the time?
I dont think so.
Alexander Hamilton, who in his youth was under the influence by the british and certainly would have been an asset for them if the US hadnt defeated the colonial master.
But after the break with Britain, his training by the brits now turned him into the opposite of an asset.
He was killed in a duel by Aaron Burr.
The latter was initially seen as a war hero. But became very closely allied with the british. The opposite development compared to Hamilton.
And they had made a gentlemans agreement about not to use real bullets or not to aim at each other. But Burr shot to kill.
It is worrying that only the Larouche circle is being honest about it.
My theory is that, for a long time, both the british and their oligarchic brethren in the US fear everything which paints national development in a positive light.
The fear of tariffs and the fear of the protection of a national industry. Of the encouragement of innovation and knowhow.
As we know now after the outsourcing era the US uses all sorts of protectionist measures and has essentially degenerated by resorting to globally extended violence and subversion. The economy became so financialised that they are stuck in a bad situation.
But the elites still want to uphold a false impression of how it began.
Fearing it would encourage the same phenomenon which led to several nations trying to emulate the same idea.
In France Germany Russian and China.
(Actually much later both Cuba and Nicaragua had such intentions before the US encouraged the communist takeover. Only JFK honestly wanted to bring down Castro while the CIA which had supported the revolution only pretended to attempt to assassinate him. I dont hate the cubans, all I am saying is it was the US elites who brought communism to them, not like everybody expects only the USSR)
But also in the 19th century Paraguay.
The latter nation was subjected to massacre of 75% of the male population as a punishment for not having wanted to be a vassal
Those who were vassals were pitted against Paraguay in this terrible manner.
China France Germany Russia were all being dragged into destructive conflicts instead of being allowed to develop in peace and in mutual interest.
And the US began as a positive example for all these nations.
Something many otherwise intelligent americans fear to even touch.
I spot a vulnerability and I think it is detrimental for the americans.
China and Russia are now attempting to organise the world in a manner which has a lot in common with what the early american republic was pursuing.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 26 2023 12:45 utc | 199

A puzzle – one that interests me, anyway, for Wednesday. Canada’s satire news outlet posts a story:
Diversity hire? Golf Town recruits white guy with ADHD
https://twitter.com/TheBeaverton/status/1650990570389786625
? —>
Microsoft-Activision spread blows out after U.K. blocks takeover
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-26/microsoft-activision-spread-blows-out-after-uk-blocks-takeover
Or – ? —>
Russia targets Ottawa think-tank as part of foreign interference campaign against critics
https://globalnews.ca/news/9650090/russia-information-macdonald-laurier-institute/
Or maybe – ? —>
Le Groupe Robert ajoute un entrepôt à son parc immobilier
https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/marche-immobilier/2023-04-26/le-groupe-robert-ajoute-un-entrepot-a-son-parc-immobilier.php
Or, really, maybe even this – ? —>
China not to observe Ukrainian crisis quietly — Xi Jinping
https://tass.com/world/1610043

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