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April 20, 2023
Russia And NATO Agree – The War In Ukraine Will Continue

NATO chief says Ukraine’s ‘rightful place’ is in the alliance – AP – Apr 20, 2023

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg defiantly declared Thursday that Ukraine’s “rightful place” is in the military alliance and pledged more support for the country on his first visit to Kyiv since Russia’s invasion just over a year ago.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy urged Stoltenberg, who has been instrumental in marshaling support from NATO members, to push for even more from them, including warplanes, artillery and armored equipment.

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Prevention of Ukraine’s accession to NATO remains one of special op’s goals — Kremlin – Tass – Apr 20, 2023

MOSCOW, April 20. /TASS/. Prevention of Ukraine’s accession to NATO remains one of the special military operation’s goals, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters Thursday.

"Of course, because, otherwise, this will pose a serious, significant threat for our country’s security," the spokesman said, answering a question.

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The Turkish publication “Aydınlık” would like to receive a response from Mr. Yevgeny Prigozhin on the following questions:
Recently, the information and analytical portal Türk Avrasya and several Turkish media outlets published information that Russia could allegedly reach an agreement with the United States to withdraw from the Ukrainian conflict, while limiting the activities of the Wagner PMC in Ukraine and other regions of the world.
Do you know anything about such agreements? If the activities of the Wagner PMC are limited, how will you and the Wagner PMC react?
In your recent article, did you really call for an end to the war in Ukraine by stopping at the currently occupied territories, as reported by most Turkish media outlets?
The Wagner PMC’s press service response:
“The Wagner PMC does not pursue the interests of any narrow circle on the territory of Russia.
The Wagner PMC has no task of seizing economic objects, production facilities, enterprises, or anything else.
As I have said many times before, the tasks of the Wagner PMC in Ukraine are to not disgrace Russian weapons and to protect the Russian people from humiliation.
Therefore, of course, such negotiations can take place because a huge number of representatives of the deep state, oligarchic structures, who are today trying to negotiate their comfortable future. And, of course, if there are enough patriots in the country, they have no future.
What is the future for the Wagner PMC?
First, in any case, we are defending Russia, defending the Russian people. Second, we support any honest and fair undertakings in the world, so we defend oppressed peoples, including African nations, against bandits, terrorists, and unreliable neighbors. And if we have allies, of course, we are with them. If representatives of Turkey are such allies, we will be happy to join the alliance with representatives of Turkey.”
Today in Turkey, there is a serious movement and a guy with iron balls named Erdogan is actively advancing the national agenda and capturing new territories, bringing them under Turkish control and doing it from the perspective of his national greatness, which is absolutely right.
Therefore, his task is to make the Ottoman Empire, and our task is to expand the boundaries of Russia worldwide from Alaska to Australia and South Africa.
By the way, representatives of a certain power bloc from South Africa have come to see me, and we are already discussing this issue with them. If a state called the Ottoman-Wagner USSR is formed, I think it will benefit the whole world. Then the German-British-French-US alliance will have less influence in the world.
Now, as for the second question, whether to finish off the SVR or not. We are in a war between Russia and Ukraine for certain territories that Russia considers inherently Russian. The same situation is happening around Turkey in certain directions. Therefore, Russia has captured these territories and must prove to everyone that they belong to it.
Whenever you capture territory, there is always a counter-attack. Therefore, you need to capture, wait for two or three counter-attacks, defeat the enemy, and when they are ready for any agreements, then you can put a thick point on it.
For this, you need to not relax and enjoy, but prepare, work, fight, and, I emphasize again, prove to everyone that it is yours forever, not just running away afterwards. And right now, if we return to the first question, there can be no agreement, especially with Americans who always deceive.
At the same time, about the situation in Ukraine… Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense report on the progress of the special operation in Ukraine on April 20, 2023:

Posted by: Rob | Apr 20 2023 20:48 utc | 101

There will be no peace lest NATO is abolished or destroyed, it will leave Russia no choice but to neutralise all of Ukraine and go all the way to the Polish border.

Posted by: expat | Apr 20 2023 20:48 utc | 102

Henry Moon Pie | Apr 20 2023 20:34 utc | 96–
Thanks for your reply. The twists and turns of Empire and its politicos always seem to be unearthed and exposed too late lending credence to Rove’s maxim that they make their own reality. But then, what is reality when created on falsehoods; is it not also false?
Clearly, the conflict will continue until Russia’s 2021 security demands become reality.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2023 20:53 utc | 103

Posted by: Willow | Apr 20 2023 20:40 utc | 98

Americans will need to shop with wheelbarrows full of their “worth-less” woke bucks

North America has a huge resource rich domestic economy, I’m sure their wealthy elites will do good business even after the world hegemon premium is discounted to that of a mere great power.
It’s Europa that I feel sorry for, resource poor and currently hurtling towards deindustrialisation ala UK in the 60-80s.

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Apr 20 2023 20:55 utc | 104

Agree with Leser @88, and since the bar is going all Tulsi Gabbard on RFK, he did say this:
The collapse of U.S. influence over Saudi Arabia and the Kingdom’s new alliances with China and Iran are painful emblems of the abject failure of the Neocon strategy of maintaining U.S. global hegemony with aggressive projections of military power. China has displaced the American Empire by deftly projecting, instead, economic power. Over the past decade, our country has spent trillions bombing roads, ports, bridges, and airports. China spent the equivalent building the same across the developing world. The Ukraine war is the final collapse of the Neocon’s short-lived “American Century.” The Neocon projects in Iraq and Ukraine have cost $8.1 trillion, hollowed out our middle class, made a laughingstock of U.S. military power and moral authority, pushed China and Russia into an invincible alliance, destroyed the dollar as the global currency, cost millions of lives and done nothing to advance democracy or win friendships or influence. https://reuters.com/business/energy/oil-soars-more-than-5bbl-jolted-by-surprise-opec-output-cuts-2023-04-02/

Posted by: George | Apr 20 2023 20:56 utc | 105

Posted by: whirlX | Apr 20 2023 20:25 utc | 93

.. With an all-in mentality, NATO is doomed. It is still dangerous and one has to be careful not to underestimate it, but against RF …

Underestimating the NATO Top leaders have always been a big failre – some countries are waing up.
But Your “but” sense of this comment [.. the RF will win anyway at least] is not yet really proofed. All about we speculating ..
The currently enhanced horrible Meat-grinder in Artemnowsk (Bakhmut) is a war on 1000-year old tactics with a very strong blood lost sacrificed.
Now, “we”‘ll enter the stage of Drone- & Missile war strikes performed by a modern Radio/Radar/SAT System & Attack tactics – even all “normal” men/women/children would prefer another wealthy world to live …

Posted by: spare_truth | Apr 20 2023 20:59 utc | 106

Sorry for not linking correctly, am on my phone…
Posted by: Zet | Apr 20 2023 20:09 utc | 90
Wow, thanks for that. I will be bookmarking.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2023 21:06 utc | 107

paul…#89..very likely russian EMP over Kyiv on 04/19/23-whatdoesitmean.com

Posted by: sejmon | Apr 20 2023 21:09 utc | 108

If RFK JR is elected do you think he will at least be as smart as Trump and bring his own security detail?

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Apr 20 2023 21:09 utc | 109

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Apr 20 2023 21:09 utc | 109
One hopes that he will at least avoid taking part in motorcades using open top vehicles. Specifically in Dallas and Chicago.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2023 21:11 utc | 110

Posted by: George | Apr 20 2023 20:56 utc | 105

Agree with Leser @88, and since the bar is going all Tulsi Gabbard on RFK, he did say this: … The Ukraine war is the final collapse of the Neocon’s short-lived “American Century.”

Yes, he talks big on Twitter, and might make an interesting presidential talking head for the more pragmatic realists in the US elites who appear to be finally pushing back against the current neocon infested White House circus. Blue vs Blue like Trump was Red vs Red, it would be hilarious if we finally left the Clinton vs Bush dynastic era in a faux replay of ‘Camelot’. Queue CIA kill team on a grassy knoll as the final curtain act for US Full Spectrum Dominance!

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Apr 20 2023 21:16 utc | 111

Left without comment. Well, other than that this echoes what has been discussed here at MoA. I didn’t do a careful read so I’m sure it’s full of not-so-subtle hints that war with China needs to happen, but maybe I’m wrong.
https://dnyuz.com/2023/04/20/as-xi-befriends-world-leaders-he-hardens-his-stance-on-the-u-s/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2023 21:17 utc | 112

It would appear that a Russian bomb or missile malfunctioned and fell on Belgorod. The armament buried itself before detonating, initial reports talk about 1 wounded individual, presumably lightly. Lots of civilian infrastructure around the point if impact, getting away with damaged cars and broken windows would be very fortunate.

Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 20 2023 21:22 utc | 113

Posted by: young | Apr 20 2023 19:40 utc | 76
Russia makes its final preps for a nuclear launch directly against the USA from now until early July, Russia launches within two weeks after it takes and secures the Donbas.
REGARDLESS: Regardless of the accuracy or lack of accuracy of “MY BEST TIMING ESTIMATE”, Russia will launch against the USA soon after the Donbas falls.
Are you serious, or was this sarcasm?

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Apr 20 2023 21:25 utc | 114

In response sejmon@108,
Maybe stupid question, but what kind of EMP detonation can you get on camera? Maybe a CG one, or some sort of virtual EMP that doesn’t fry electronic devices?

Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 20 2023 21:26 utc | 115

@Sam, 23 has a dim view of the English: “Russia must target england because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world”
My people mostly come from Scotland, and I was brought up with a subtle disdain for the English. As an adult, though, I believe it was the Norman Conquest and Occupation of Britain that created the poor image of English people. Ask the Irish about the Normans… the first slavers, the last barbarians, predators of Britain.
Norman money, Norman descendants, still hold power in Britain, Canada, and in America, likely Australia and New Zealand, too.

Posted by: tedder | Apr 20 2023 21:30 utc | 116

Re RFK Jr. and the Kennedy clan
A short musical interlude for those who don’t mind a bit of ’80s synthpop;
Shona Laing – (Glad I’m) Not a Kennedy

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Apr 20 2023 21:37 utc | 117

Posted by: tedder | Apr 20 2023 21:30 utc | 116
I think you’ll find the Normans were appalled at the idea of slavery, feudalism being far more efficient and productive, and banned it. They also were shocked at how corrupted the Anglo-Saxon Church had become and instituted reforms that immediately tackled this. The Scots, Welsh and Irish all seem to harbour ‘disdain’ for the English, because that’s the coping strategy of the conquered. Too many intelligent people today still have their views subtlety corrupted by a very perfunctory and highly subjective understanding of their nation’s history. Normans bad, everyone else, freedom loving, sophisticated, culturally and ethically superior people. Pft! There’s a reason my name is Milites.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2023 21:48 utc | 118

Yes this war will continue….and escalate. The west is insane, lost in arrogance and incompetence and incapable of rational action. World War has already begun even if the vast majority of the population hasn’t the first clue. Nothing pulls us back off the edge this time.

Posted by: JustAMaverick | Apr 20 2023 21:48 utc | 119

Posted by: Zeug Gezeugt | Apr 20 2023 21:16 utc | 111
Trump was Red, White and Blue, that was the problem for the Uni-party (two wings, one bird) he was not in the Big Club. So it was Red and Blue v Trump.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2023 21:56 utc | 120

NATO can pledge unlimited support to Ukraine, knowing that it can deliver very little material aid. It’s just empty blather. As far as Ukraine joining NATO, that will be determined by facts on the ground, which don’t look promising for fulfilling that goal.

Posted by: Rob | Apr 20 2023 22:01 utc | 121

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2023 20:37 utc | 97
I would like to see American politicians talk more about peace. I think Kennedy’s is a good start. I think his current peace proposal will have to be upgraded.
Here is the archived DM article-
https://archive.is/FCWcI

Posted by: Browser | Apr 20 2023 22:02 utc | 122

I did a Yijing cast on RFK earlier this month. Interestingly, his reading had the same hexagram as President Xi’s only three casts before (long odds!).
There are many red flags around his – or anyone’s – candidacy given the very strange and disturbing nature of the American political scene. But I think he has potential.
First, when very young his father and uncle were murdered. He was much too young then to be politically corrupt etc. He was an innocent. Interestingly the cast mentioned this quality (Earth). Also, both main hexagrams, 9 & 26, have to do with storing, or also one could say potential.
I find it hard to believe that someone with his history and also his very difficult to hear voice can come through. But we don’t know what sort of hits the US is going to take in the next 12 months. It could be historic. Someone with a very real potential to embody an iconic presence during such a time might be just what the gods order to effect a substantive change.
I believe the early tragedy he suffered and which most likely is what has caused his voice to be so quavering combined with his career as someone who has taken on companies like Monsanto and won indicates that he has a level of sincerity combined with competence rarely found in political candidates. He may be deluded or naive in some ways, but I very much doubt he is a hack or shill. Possible – the man has children and any man with children can be controlled – but unlikely.
We shall just have to see…

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 20 2023 22:05 utc | 123

Posted by: expat | Apr 20 2023 20:48 utc | 102
A failed offensive, or an inexorable forward momentum by Russia might very well lead to a 1917 situation. An elite upper class, totally separate from the system of governance they impose on their people, are sending thousands of poorly trained, poorly equipped soldiers to their deaths, to protect their privileged position. The Western supporters will try to keep the conflict going, perhaps a Polish legion, but it will have run it’s course. I also think the collapse of the present Ukrainian government will come far quicker than either of the two combatants suspect, predict or have contingency plans for. Preference breaks, especially in times of conflict, lead to wall demolishing moments and change at a dizzying pace.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2023 22:08 utc | 124

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2023 20:32 utc | 95
Is that the COVID that probably came from one of their labs. An opinion, however much it was labelled by the empire as ‘wrongthink’ many epidemiologists originally suspected.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2023 22:13 utc | 125

Karlof1 no. 30
The daily mail? Seriously? No wonder the link is blocked.
They’re on a par (worse even) than sly news.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 20 2023 22:15 utc | 126

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2023 18:37 utc | 44
Leftists were confidently predicting, before and during his term in office, that Trump would start so many wars that the world would face extinction. When he did the exact opposite, he was attacked by the uni-party and when he survived hoaxes and scam-impeachments they said the same thing would happen if he gained a second term.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2023 22:23 utc | 127

I will no longer post. Not that
I ever did much!
Sorry folks.
“Caitlin Johnstone: Biden DOJ Indicts Four Americans for ‘Weaponized’ Free Speech” Consortium News, Caitlin J.

Posted by: HelenB | Apr 20 2023 22:26 utc | 128

#114
I understood it as
Seriously, hyperbolic.

Posted by: Dingo | Apr 20 2023 22:28 utc | 129

Browser | Apr 20 2023 22:02 utc | 122–
Thanks very much for your reply and link you provided, which was a very informative read. I have several immediate reactions about his entire platform that deserve to be refined. One I’ll share is that he proposes to prune the tree instead of uprooting it and planting a new one, which might get him elected but won’t alter much. And as I’ve already stated, he’s dead wrong about Ukraine, which means he’s also wrong in the areas related to it. Perhaps he’s that way because of his dead kin? It’s been floated that he and Trump ought to run on the same ticket, which IMO is nuts. I note more news items than the last time I checked with most still dissing him without commenting on his campaign proposals.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2023 22:28 utc | 130

ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 20 2023 22:15 utc | 126–
The link Browser supplied @122 that I replied to is actually quite good and better balanced than US BigLie Media’s distortions.
Kennedy2024 provides his initial campaign ideas.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2023 22:34 utc | 131

Zeug Gezeugt #104. Similar to the Great Depression, it will be at least a decade for the US to reindustrialize and NATO is out of ammo without ability to replace so US supported NATO will go broke as well. Meanwhile America will resemble the prophetic film, “Escape from New York” The world will divorce from the financial albatross that is America and the US unipolar model of extortion through instability, war and chaos will be supplanted by the BRICS model of multipolar peace and prosperity through stability.

Posted by: Willow | Apr 20 2023 22:46 utc | 132

Today, the last day of Ramadhan showed how little humanity had entered the mentality of the leaders of the mosque.
A young man who was having growth moment was being objectionable to the mosque management. So they first humiliated him by calling the ambulance, then laughed at his distress in front of the ambulance staff, and then called the police to put him.in his place.
ALL institutions always protect the pride of the institution itself before the welfare of the individual. NATO refuses to back down from its horrendous mistake in coordinating an attack on Russia even after the loss of 300, 000 Ukranian soldiers.
The horrendous mistake was Thatcher’s false premise that society doesn’t exist and that socialism therefore has no purpose. The opposite is the case. In neo-liberalism the individual has no value, but the corporate money-making institution has obvious significance in terms of its power and wealth.
The fact that NATO is oblivious to the death of 300,000 Ukranians/Iraqis/ Yemenis/ Afghans/Libyans/Africans/Syrians has compelled the RoW to reject the polity of the West. The fact that a month of fasting and prayer has not increased the humanity of the mosque one jot, is a damning indictment of the polity of all institutions.
We need to dismantle the institution of Nato and we need to dismantle all institutions that place the interests of the leaders over the interests of the individuals. Some chance!

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 20 2023 22:50 utc | 133

Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2023 22:23 utc | 127
Leftists. LMAO. You mean corporate Democrats, the establishment GOP and the corporate Media?
Trump tried pretty hard to start a war with Iran. He also tried pretty hard to invoke, what, a 3rd Intifada by moving the embassy to Jerusalem? Trump’s sanctions killed tens of thousands in Venezuela alone. Trump didn’t withdraw from Syria and started stealing their oil. US air strikes occurred frequently on Syria under Trump. Or how about his administration (Pimpeous for one) bragging that they actually sent weapons to Ukraine when all Obama had sent were MREs? Or when he expelled a record number of Russian diplomats and enacted sanctions? Or when he indicted Assange, the pre-eminent truth teller on US wars? Or what about Yemen? Africom (https://issafrica.org/iss-today/is-trump-militarising-us-africa-policy)? Or how about the fact that Trump did more drone strikes in one term than Obama did in 2?
In any case, there was really nothing left to destroy in terms of low hanging fruit. Obama and Bush had already destroyed most of those countries. Iran isn’t such a fruit, but the plans were in place, I’m sure. This Trump as an anti-war President mythology is just that – a convenient fairy tale, or perhaps better put a fairy tale borne of convenience.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2023 22:50 utc | 134

There’s a Polish journalist, Stanislavski, who has been interviewing Ukrainian refugees in Poland. Here he is interviewing a Galizian activist, Makhinko, about the future of Ukraine. Transcript here:
https://thebarricade.online/what-is-the-solution-for-western-ukrainians/
Interesting quotes from Makhinko:

The West will have an impact on where the demarcation line will be drawn…the scenario in which the demarcation line runs along the Zbruch River, separating Western Ukraine from Eastern Ukraine, is quite plausible.

[•••]

It is no secret that the majority of Ukrainian soldiers are Russian-speaking…
A resident of the main part of Ukraine would have had a hard time understanding what a Galician says, especially if the latter speaks quickly.

[•••]

Today’s Ukrainian society is a consumer of primarily Russian culture. And next to Moscow the capital of Ukraine, Kiev, is becoming the vanguard of Russification in Western Ukraine. And this irritates Galicians, who begin to oppose Kiev most of all.
Does it make sense to bet on the shaky Kiev regime, which, frankly speaking, expresses primarily European capital interests while hiding behind national Ukrainian slogans, now and in the future?

[•••]

Many local patriots believe that an independent Galicia would be far more successful in reforms and EU integration.

Posted by: Browser | Apr 20 2023 22:51 utc | 135

Karlof1 no. 131
Ok. Thankyou. Got that.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 20 2023 22:55 utc | 136

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2023 22:28 utc | 130
Thanks. As far as I can tell he is the only American political figure to suggest removing nuclear-capable missiles from Russia’s vicinity. The sites in Poland and Romania have to go.

Posted by: Browser | Apr 20 2023 22:55 utc | 137

Trump’s then Secretary of State (and future CIA director) on Ukraine:

You know, I agreed to come on your show today to talk about Iran. That’s what I intend to do. I know what our Ukraine policy has been now for the three years of this administration. I’m proud of the work we’ve done. This administration delivered the capability for the Ukrainians to defend themselves. President Obama showed up with MREs (meals ready to eat.) We showed up with Javelin missiles. The previous administration did nothing to take down corruption in Ukraine. We’re working hard on that. We’re going to continue to do it.

Yeah, about that corruption. See, Trump’s team was working not to eliminate corruption in Ukraine, but to enable and cement a different group of corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs and US politicians/appointees, not to mention dig up dirt on Joe Bidet’s drug addled loser son.
Recall that Ukrainegate was because Trump threatened to withhold money for “aid” (i.e., weapons and bribes) from Ukraine that his own administration had promised, in return for a favor. There was never any doubt that the money/weapons would be sent, but the CIA needed a more “friendly” face to serve as the spokesperson for US Empire and Trump wasn’t cutting it, so they decided to try taking him out.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2023 22:57 utc | 138

Sorry, the Pimpeous One was first in charge of the CIA and then the Secretary of State.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2023 22:58 utc | 139

Re: Posted by: Chris N | Apr 20 2023 16:51 utc | 19
I’m glad you have such faith in these leaks Chris, I happen to be far more cynical when leaks emerge from within the bowels of the Deep State – something definitely stinks about the whole affair.

Posted by: Julian | Apr 20 2023 23:05 utc | 140

Re: Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 20 2023 17:25 utc | 26
Ha! I appreciate the riposte – very pithy! I chuckled!!

Posted by: Julian | Apr 20 2023 23:09 utc | 141

Journalist Laurent Brayard says that some SBU members operating in Mariupol in 2015 were English speaking foreigners. He said that in an interview on ukr-leaks at around 3:02 in that interview.
https://rumble.com/v2jfud0-interview-with-french-journalist-laurent-brayard.-part-one..html
Laurent was in Donbas in 2015 and he talked with a man who came from Mariupol. That man told Laurent theat he had been arrested at his home and taken somewhere where he was beaten and tortured by five members of the SBU in uniform. Four of them spoke English but no Ukrainian.
That adds to the weight of the arbuments pointing to a takeover of Ukrainian institutions by Anglo-Saxon interests in the wake of the Maiden coup.
That’s an interesting interview.

Posted by: Richard L | Apr 20 2023 23:11 utc | 142

@ 133
The last resort of the mosque leaders to control this poor young man was to bring in the specialist Mullah who deals with evil spirits to diagnose and label him as possessed. A bit like the US calling in the ICC to accuse President Putin ofvwar crimes after USUKIS has spent 50 billion dollars building up Nazi hate and military infrastructure to attack Ruasia.
Institutions which are about power and control arecthecmain cause of all human problems.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 20 2023 23:12 utc | 143

The longer this war goes on without any glorious counteroffensive, the more undeniable it will become that NATO is a paper tiger incapable of protecting anybody.
I suspect most Ukrainians who fell for the trap of NATO membership saw it initially as some sort of holy grail, but now they must be waking up to the hook in mouth with every forced conscription, funeral and missing loved one.
Social mood is a funny thing. When it breaks, it can result in a phase change that brings shocking results, like the BLM protests in the US.
If I were a Zelensky regime supporter, I’d be getting my bribe money ready and escape plan well-rehearses.

Posted by: Chris | Apr 20 2023 23:15 utc | 144

BHADRAKUMAR today:
“. . .it is improbable that Russia can ever reconcile with the Zelensky regime, which Moscow sees as a puppet of the Biden administration. But how can Biden possibly dump or lose sight of Zelensky while the skeletons are rattling in the family cupboard?”
Easily answered but the crux here–it’s been here all along–is that something must be done about (read “to”) Zelensky. Of course. Otherwise it’s backing down this highly-built ladder just one rung. Everything is still up in the air with Zelensky still there.
Biden’s dilemma is his alone. Him needing Zelensky is not a convincing motive or politically important especially compared to Putin’s not needing (putting it graciously) Zelensky is a howler. Biden is over. He is not in the President game any longer.
And this war will be over & done when Zelensky is put away into the history books.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Apr 20 2023 23:23 utc | 145

More bollox. This time from that ptetentious lying jerk Gen. David Patreus.
This time the great offensive is now JUNE….yes, june folks.
All this is nonsense. The west and kiev are playing for time, hoping theres a coup or uprising in moscow. Thats their only chance of a victory.
Talk of the ghost offensive also keeps the west pumping money into the kiev dump.
There aint gonna be an offensive.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 20 2023 23:25 utc | 146

1. Make a deal with whom in/for Ukraine ? Neither Europe nor the USA are (diplomatically speaking) “agreement capable. In other words, they are liars and deceivers. Ergo, Russia, after being continuously slapped in the face, being the subject of derision by lesser beings, cannot, must not be lulled into accepting anything less than the control of sufficient territory and the complete NEUTRALIZATON of Ukraine.
2. This Ukraine war has now brought the whole world to the clarity needed. The USA cannot be trusted. Even if you make a deal with one U.S. Administration, the very next Administration can change everything. While the U.S agreed to a “One China” policy, without consulting nor the consent of the people of Taiwan, now U.S. war mongers would prefer to renege, and start a fight with China. China, a country built with U.S. capital and free access to the U.S. consumer market.
3. U.S. Aircraft carriers. Do not be surprised if China and Russia take out every single carrier throughout the world. Just as Aircraft Carriers replace Battleships, today’s new toys make Aircraft carriers useful only in attacking small, defenseless nations.

Posted by: kupkee | Apr 20 2023 23:29 utc | 147

Milites @ 118 “Normans bad, everyone else, freedom loving, sophisticated, culturally and ethically superior people.”
Actually it seems to be Anglo-Saxons that get all the blame. Never mind that they were dispossessed in 1066. The Normans ruled the British Isles for 600 years until the Tudors and Stuarts took over. Hard to say who runs it now.

Posted by: dh | Apr 20 2023 23:35 utc | 148

@pretzelattack 64:
Inkan69 is a nazi that’s been leaving blueyellow ragwagging naziganda comments on my site for over a year now (and which I no longer even read, let alone approve for publication). He’d love nothing better than the nazis to be left in power.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 20 2023 23:38 utc | 149

“…I suspect most Ukrainians who fell for the trap of NATO membership saw it initially as some sort of holy grail..” Chris@143
Certainly it was something like that: membership of NATO or the EU was seen as auyomatic entry into the charmed circle of the ‘golden billion.’
It was like a Cargo Cult:
“Imitate the north Americans and the wstern Europeans and you will become what they are, you will have a new car, a good jib with high wages and minimal hours. You will have holidays like the French and Barbecues like the Americans. There will be sun drenched beaches and vast amounts to eat and drink. And you will have a Schengen visa allowing you to travel where you wish and earn all that you can…”
Dadly nobody told them that the ‘party’ such as it was of the golden years was over: industry was closing down, jobs had become more precarious than ever, all those social services had been dissolved and commercialised… we all know the drill.
Ukrainians are paying a high price for a one way ticket on the escalator to Hell.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 20 2023 23:44 utc | 150

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2023 22:50 utc | 134
No. I meant Leftists, socialists, children, or whatever plural noun is used to describe those current ideologues and zealots who have disposable ethics and bend every sinew to force the arc of history to be on their side. As for the rest of the revisionist history regarding Trump, there’s plenty out there on the inter-webs to weave a different narrative.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2023 23:52 utc | 151

@bevin 149
The EUNATO (pretty much the same thing now) is a mafia organisation: once in, never out.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 20 2023 23:54 utc | 152

I also think the collapse of the present Ukrainian government will come far quicker than either of the two combatants suspect, predict or have contingency plans for. Preference breaks, especially in times of conflict, lead to wall demolishing moments and change at a dizzying pace.
Posted by: Milites | Apr 20 2023 22:08 utc | 124
I think this sort of scenario is probable. There are multiple scenarios where the Ukrainian military and even government fall into cascading failures. All indications are that NATO is running out of everything except words. It could drag on, but I think it’s just as likely that Ukraine shatters into a million pieces if it faces a catastrophic event. I also think Russia isn’t willing to possibly overextend to provoke that event, so it waits for the promised offensive to deal the blow then.
If the southern offensive demanded by DC meets a hail of FAB-500’s, crossing the Dnieper is thwarted and Russia finishes off the electric grid (which is still held together with wire and twine), it’s game over. With or without a serious counter blow on the ground.

Posted by: Lex | Apr 20 2023 23:58 utc | 153

I post this for some light relief and a bit of intrigue. I have no wish to print the address of the shitrag it comes from – it was British and it came up on msn.con/news.
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Putin dramatically sacks his top admiral who’s leading ongoing military drill
Ben Ashton
Thursday 20 Apr 2023 10:59 am
Sergei Avakyants has been fired from his role as Russian’s Pacific Fleet Admiral by dictator Vladimir Putin
Vladimir Putin this week sacked one of Russia’s most senior commanders who has been overseeing major war games.
Pacific fleet admiral Sergei Avakyants was leading vast military operations which were seen as a significant show of strength to the West.
Nuclear bombers were spotted flying over neutral waters off the east coast of Asia, while submarine attack exercises and naval live fire drills are ongoing.
Russia’s latest muscle flex appeared to be a warning especially aimed at the US, South Korea and Japan after the three nations held joint naval missile defence exercises in the same region this week.
But now the top naval officer in charge of the showcase of the fleet at Russia’s disposal has been fired from his role.
Putin’s decision to axe Avakyants, who has headed the Pacific Fleet since May 2012, was confirmed by deputy prime minister Yuri Trutnev.
No replacement was announced.
It’s unclear if Putin was dissatisfied with the ‘high alert’ exercises as Russian defence sources revealed eight Tu-22M3 bombers – capable of carrying multiple nuclear missiles – flew over thSea of Okhotsk and the Sea of Japan yesterday.
Two Tu-95MS nuclear bombers were also flying over the Bering and Okhotsk seas on Tuesday.
The drills came after the Kremlin dictator had ordered a sudden spot check on the combat readiness of his Pacific Fleet.
They were officially labelled a success, but are evidently still ongoing despite the dismissal of the key admiral.
The surprise sacking of Avakyants is further indication of Putin’s frustration with his top brass, with the admiral becoming the latest in a long line of Russian commanders to face the chop.
Avakyants was one of Russia’s most respected naval officers, who was a recipient of the Order of Naval Merit and the Order for Service to the Homeland in the Armed Forces of the USSR.
He was seen as a close ally of defence minister Sergei Shoigu who had announced the combat readiness exercises.
Last year, the fleet won prizes as the best trained of Putin’s naval fleets.
The 66-year-old has now been demoted to a backroom role in Moscow leading military sports and patriotic training.

Posted by: Ново З | Apr 20 2023 23:58 utc | 154

Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 20 2023 23:25 utc | 145
I believe Operation Citadel was initially scheduled to start in May, and then June, before finally commencing in July; how history rhymes!

Posted by: Milites | Apr 21 2023 0:00 utc | 155

>>Ask the Irish about the Normans… the first slavers, the last barbarians, predators of Britain.
The Irish in the United States who have a negative thing about the original English language speaking population, and some do, call the other side the English, or Anglo-Saxon. I know some and I have never heard them say Norman.

Posted by: Jmaas | Apr 21 2023 0:03 utc | 156

Welcome to WW3
Posted by: Sam Vandenberg | Apr 20 2023 16:08 utc | 2

Not yet. China needs to be actively participating militarily as well. IMO, economic trade “wars” do not count. Although China have yet to assign an ambassador to the US, they have yet to kick the US ambassador out.

Posted by: Ian2 | Apr 21 2023 0:12 utc | 157

Jmaas @ 155
Ask your Irish friends about the deal Diarmait mac Murchada made with Henry II of England and the Earl of Pembroke in 1170 to jointly rule Ireland.

Posted by: dh | Apr 21 2023 0:16 utc | 158

I posted a reference to this interview of French/Russian journalist Laurent Brayard,
Interview with French journalist Laurent Brayard. Part one.
I assume my post was filtered out by the software and the reason may be the http reference. One can google for the title. It’s on rumble.
The point that attracted my attention starts at 3:04 in the interview.
There were SBU members in uniform who took part to beatings and torture who were English speakers from foreign countries and did not speak Ukrainian. That’s in Mariupol in 2015. That points to a takeover of an Ukrainian institution by Anglo-Saxon countries.

Posted by: Richard L | Apr 21 2023 0:20 utc | 159

@Chris N | Apr 20 2023 16:15 utc | 8
Apparently, this is a loss the USA is prepared to pay.
PS There won’t be much left of NATO or the EU either, but nobody will miss them

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 21 2023 0:20 utc | 160

Posted by: dh | Apr 20 2023 23:35 utc | 147
No that’s just a pejorative term used by people who are very selective with their historical knowledge. Scholars debate about when the Norman influence waned and an English identity began to be established (12th-13th) centuries but it is true to say the impact of their wholesale takeover still can be felt today (French based surname equals wealthy background). Who runs it now? The same people who rule all countries, the wealthy, that is, after all, how they became wealthy. Over the last century that division of wealth and power has been more equitable; however even those hard-fought concessions have triggered a vicious backlash by people who want to establish a techno-feudal future for the majority. Hence food and energy being used once more as control mechanisms, along with democratic governance subverted and co-opted, and a pandemic here and there for good measure.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 21 2023 0:24 utc | 161

Milites @ 160 The Normans didn’t build all those castles for no reason. Some of them still occupied today.

Posted by: dh | Apr 21 2023 0:27 utc | 162

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 20 2023 22:50 utc | 134
Thank you.

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Apr 21 2023 0:31 utc | 163

Re: HelenB | Apr 20 2023 22:26 utc | 128, no longer post
I had the same reflex beginning of march when I saw that site listed on a regulatory sanction list by the fed in the USA ‘ s northern neighbour.
About a week after that I even saw this very bar mentioned in mainstream French language media as comparable. The same MSM is now in overdrive against China. The pressure is unbelievable, even the place where I work is getting attacked repeatedly in the media with this foreign interference story.
It’s getting dangerous to even express political thought in this place where they can freeze your bank assets on a whim as per the truckers.
Just getting my head above the parapet this once to say hi to all the usual suspects, the old timers, they know who they are, thank you so much to keep up the discussion, you’re as informative as ever. I barely ever posted, you might not even have noticed, but I keep reading yous and enjoying the never ending debates. You guys are great. And of course, profoundly grateful to b, was worried for you awhile back there, take good care big man.

Posted by: htyul | Apr 21 2023 0:32 utc | 164

@158
Funny. The internet search for the title does not take me to the rumble video. Then a post includibg the rumble link gets filtered out. So here is the link on telegram. I hope this one is not filtered out!
https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/2105

Posted by: Richard L | Apr 21 2023 0:47 utc | 165

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 20 2023 19:46 utc | 78
“While I may agree in some and disagree other parts, I think it will ramp up – it will ramp up in the sphere of disabled satellites.”
RESPONSE: No doubt the continual ramping up is, and will continue to be, in all spheres including satellites.
The ramping up does not end in negotiation this time because if the USA allows the current Russian Federation, it means the death to the USD. Also, Putin has learned that the West cannot be trusted after their word and even written treaty.

Posted by: young | Apr 21 2023 0:51 utc | 166

>>>>>> kassandra | Apr 20 2023 16:05 utc | 1

I finally deduced a definition of the “rules-based international order.” It means the U.S. makes the rules, and the U.S. gives the orders.

I think it’s more convoluted than that. Washington does indeed make the rules but they’re not applied equally to each country. An important part of the rule of law is that the law should be applied equally but in the rules-based international order certain rules apply only to certain countries but not others and certain countries have more flexibility in how the rules are applied.

As for who orders anything, I’m not sure that is necessary as the countries that are part of the rules-based international order know what is expected of them and act accordingly but with an appearance of acting independently. I think the best analogy is the way the Final Solution was implemented. Holocaust deniers often claim that Hitler never issued an order to implement the Final Solution so he didn’t know about it, which is rubbish. He didn’t need to issue an order because his underlings knew what was expected of them and the competitive nature of the Nazi regime ensured that the various departments of the regime tried to out perform their competitors.
The same happens with the rules-based international order with Annalena Baerbock being the most competitive in western Europe while the Baltic States and Poland are the most competitive in the east.

After WW2, the CIA and probably the military decided or were directed to study how the Nazi regime operated including the individual approaches of senior members of the Nazi regime to see what could be learnt and applied to the way Washington ran the world, which might explain why the various parts of the US military and regime are so competitive and divided. For example, Colonel Douglas Macgregor mentioned in a recent podcast with Tony Schaffer how in the SMO, the Russian military identified a target of opportunity and a Kalibr cruise missile was launched from a Russian warship in the Black Sea within seven minutes, something that could never happen with the current US military.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 21 2023 0:51 utc | 167

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 20 2023 19:58 utc | 86
Vladimir Putin dosent need to take the drastic (understatment) action you suggest. Only desperate people do desperate things.
Russia has won this war, on any level, gage or definition you care to mention. But don’t hold your breath waiting for Washington to anouce it.
RESPONSE: Mark2, Russia has no choice but to launch. Putin knows that Biden and show will escalate this conflict to the point that the USA launches. Russia can not afford to allow the USA to have the first strike advantage. That is why Putin has given his generals the orders to escalate the time table to take the Donbas. Soon afterward, Russia will launch against the USA.

Posted by: young | Apr 21 2023 0:56 utc | 168

IMO, here’s the Howler for the day: RT reports Yellen saying: “Biden is willing to damage US economy to counter China.” Gee, didn’t Trump already do that? Here’s a bit more:

President Joe Biden will stop at nothing to protect America against security threats posed by China, even if the actions he must take damage his own nation’s economy, US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has claimed.
“National security is of paramount importance in our relationship with China,” Yellen said on Wednesday in a speech in Washington. She gave the example of blocking China from obtaining certain technologies, adding, “We will not compromise on these concerns, even when they force trade-offs with our economic interests.”

IMO, Yellen is very worried about the lack of buyers for US debt. Trying to halt China’s tech advancement is utterly foolish. Indeed, confronting China is utterly foolish as there’s absolutely no rational reason to do so. Trying to rule the world is no longer, or ever was, a rational goal. And trying to do that is turning the entire world against you Yellen.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 21 2023 0:58 utc | 169

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Apr 20 2023 21:25 utc
Are you serious, or was this sarcasm?
RESPONSE: Let’s wait until mid July to see if it was serious or sarcasm.

Posted by: young | Apr 21 2023 1:00 utc | 170

>>>>> Jmaas | Apr 21 2023 0:03 utc | 155
As was explained to me by an Irish Nationalist who had family on both sides of the border, anyone who was not of Irish origin was a “Brit” and this included all the colonialist who settled there over the centuries and when a hard-line Irish Nationalist said “Brits out” he was referring not just to the elements of the government in the North that were parts of the British Civil Service and the UK military but also all the many colonialist who had settled there over centuries, a problem for him because some of his relatives were “Brits”.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 21 2023 1:02 utc | 171

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 20 2023 23:38 utc | 148
Your site says “Leave a Comment” and so I leave a comment. It’s your website; you have every right to do whatever you want with the comments. And to dedicate your life to reaching your goal of labeling every human being in the world a Nazi.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Apr 21 2023 1:02 utc | 172

More pathetic crap from the Empire, “US Does Not Believe Syria Deserves Readmission to Arab League at This Time, State Dept. Says”, which has zero authority within the Arab League. Also, the Outlaw US Empire started the conflict within Syria and of course refuses to “normalize relations,” which is yet another reason why NATO must be utterly defeated in Ukraine.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 21 2023 1:06 utc | 173

Ghost Ship @ 170 How does he feel about Vikings? They founded Dublin.

Posted by: dh | Apr 21 2023 1:09 utc | 174

maybe it wasnt felt as much here, but the NAFO trolls after a brief lull are back in force with new talky points on most msm. trying to mix GDP with PPP and project the wests economic collapse onto RF seems the main thrust.

Posted by: hankster | Apr 21 2023 1:35 utc | 175

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 21 2023 1:06 utc | 172
Hopefully they aren’t paying much attention.

Earlier this week, Syrian President Bashar Assad met with Saudi Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud in Damascus to discuss ways to resolve the conflict in Syria and achieve normalization of relations between Syria and the Arab world.

God, Syria and Bashar! – Rami Kazour

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 21 2023 1:36 utc | 176

There is a Nobel Peace prize waiting for anyone who can figure out a negotiated settlement to this war
Good luck

Posted by: Steven | Apr 21 2023 1:53 utc | 177

@ karlof1 | Apr 21 2023 1:06 utc | 172 with this and other comments….thanks
Empire trying to tell the Arab League what their membership should be is just another show of what the RoW needs to see as what they don’t want in the new multi-polar world.
Empire is showing the RoW exactly why Might-Makes-Right patriarchy is not the social organizational way forward for our species. Its has had a run of 2K+ years but its extinction ending by extrapolation does not appeal to all humans. Those RoW humans are saying to the Might-Makes-Right patriarchy that extinction is preferable to living under totalitarian cult rule by a historical minority of our species.
This is what Russia is fighting for and China is right behind along with the RoW……the “meek” shall inherit the earth.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 21 2023 1:58 utc | 178

Steven | Apr 21 2023 1:53 utc | 176–
The figuring is easy; it’s finding someone with the authority and willingness to negotiate that’s the issue. The key issue is the need for the hegemonic Bloc to agree to dissolve itself; otherwise, the conflict will continue until that issue’s resolved.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 21 2023 2:00 utc | 179

dh (#161 et al)
Yes, it started with Strongbow under the Plantagenet Henry II, and continued through the 1366 Statutes of Kilkenny, which listed a number of English (Norman) controlled lands and forbade alliances with Irish chieftains as well as intermarriage with the Irish.
However, the centuries-long antipathy of the Irish toward the British results from the atrocities committed after the Protestant Reformation, such atrocities being both ethnically and religiously motivated. Priests and Bishops murdered, the Mass forbidden, inheritance forbidden to practicing Catholics, etc.
And then there was (To Hell or Connacht) Cromwell. Then the Famine (An Gorta Mor), throughout which cattle and grain were exported from Ireland to pay for London luxuries for absentee landlords. Add in the Settlements of Ulster, which transported lowland Scots to all the good farmland in eastern Ulster, and the transportation of Irish Catholics to English slavery in Jamaica and Barbados. Add the refusal of Protestant companies to hire Irish Catholics even up to the Troubles in the 1970s.
English Protestantism perfected its inhuman treatment all over the British Empire beginning in Ireland. Not the Normans.

Posted by: Ciaran | Apr 21 2023 2:03 utc | 180

I understand the allure of RFK to some, but there is no real-world chance he’ll be allowed by the Administrative State to gain any scintilla of momentum for a 2024 Democrat Primary run. If there is one Lobby that is perhaps as powerful as the rapacious MIMACC/Israeli War Lobby in Congress, it’s the rapacious Big Pharma Lobby.
RFK is a visceral enemy to both.

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | Apr 21 2023 2:04 utc | 181

Interesting how fast Larry Johnson is backtracking.
https://sonar21.com/will-jack-teixeira-get-the-general-petraeus-treatment-for-mishandling-classified-intelligence/
From “Texeira couldn’t have possibly had access to the documents” to “he couldn’t have access to CIA documents” to “let’s see if it can be proved in court that he was the one who posted the documents.”
I predict the same thing will happen about his insistence that Evan Gershkovich was not a spy.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 21 2023 2:10 utc | 182

@karlof1 | Apr 20 2023 16:49 utc | 18
That was a beautiful piece of rhetoric. I think that your “The world has taken up Nancy Reagan’s mantra in its message to the Empire–Just Say No–while taking Thatcher’s mantra to the landfill as There are Alternatives.” Is one of the most perfectly formed and balanced sentences I have had the pleasure of reading this whole year, maybe longer.

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 21 2023 2:15 utc | 183

Ciaran @ 179 All true alas. The Irish….especially Catholics…have suffered a lot of injustice. Let’s not forget the Protestant Reformation began in Europe. The level of hatred is difficult to understand now but it still seems to simmer in a few places.

Posted by: dh | Apr 21 2023 2:19 utc | 184

> Stalling without any meaningful offensive
1. Who told told what Putin’s plans are? The real ones that nobody knows about.
2. Publicly he says: “denazify, demilitarize, etc”. If Ukraine does not exist, then the mission has been accomplished. If it exists as a wasteland, then the mission has been accomplished. Medvedev wrote that nobody needs Ukraine, why do you expect a land conquest a la 1580s? A literal bottomless pit in place of Ukraine is perfectly fine for Russia.
3. Why on Earth would anyone want to do an offensive, if entire western military production is being destroyed swimmingly as is? WHY do anything before clearing out their ammo warehouses? Why not wait till nobody can offer any resistance and then wait some more, just to be on the safe side? To entertain an anonymous internet poster? The west can do nothing, or it it would have done something by now. Militarily the West is 100% impotent. Politically, unfortunately there is always room for defeat, especially against such crafty manipulators as the British.
4. In short, stop demanding entertainment and go live your life. History will happen with or without your monitoring.

Posted by: GreenSky | Apr 21 2023 2:45 utc | 185

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 21 2023 2:10 utc | 181
Read Johnson’s article, he is still consistent in his assessments. Teixeira is implausible to be this leak’s main actor, and it is unclear whether there was (were) other higher-ups who had implicated Teixeira. I find your comments on Johnson in this still developing case to be rush and hostile.
https://sonar21.com/will-jack-teixeira-get-the-general-petraeus-treatment-for-mishandling-classified-intelligence/
“……At this point Jack Teixeira is alleged to have posted classified intelligence documents to the web, but there is no direct evidence that he actually was the one who placed those documents in a chat room. That remains to be seen if the allegation, which comes from one of the members of the chat room, can be proven in court. If that cannot be proven, he still faces potential charges on mishandling classified information…….”

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Apr 21 2023 2:50 utc | 186

@KitauSupporter 185:
I did read the article, and most of it is give over to plea bargaining by the likes of Petraeus and whether Teixeira will be allowed to make a plea bargain deal.
Going from “there is no way a 21 year old airman could possibly have accessed the documents” to plea bargaining, what did this suggest to you?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 21 2023 2:56 utc | 187

>>> Ghost Ship | Apr 21 2023 0:51 utc | 166
No doubt you’re right, but sometimes humour is a better antidote to propaganda than thoughtful analysis.
Whenever we hear one of them going on about their “rules-based international order”, we should automatically translate that as “We make the rules, we give the orders.”

Posted by: kassandra | Apr 21 2023 3:14 utc | 188

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 21 2023 2:56 utc | 186
I would rather wait to judge. There are still a lot of unknown gaps between possessing the docs and posting the docs.

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Apr 21 2023 3:19 utc | 189

you guys don’t see the patterns (…) this war will stop only when a republican president comes into power again..)
Haha u funny guy u think Kevin McCarthy no got boner for Russia and China get informed n get back to me k?
Posted by: 1pipe1 | Apr 20 2023 18:27 utc | 41

Posted by: nwwoods | Apr 21 2023 3:35 utc | 190

These comments mean nothing. ZERO. Its the Empire of Lies. Meaningless and subject to change the next day. Propaganda and narrative control. These people are useless idiots.

Posted by: JustTruth | Apr 21 2023 3:40 utc | 191

@KitaySupporter 188:
Waiting to judge is exactly what Johnson didn’t do, or else he wouldn’t have had to eat his words.
Anyway, here’s Simplicius76′ latest:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/western-experts-new-fear-russia-is
A good article on the Westernaganda now faced with the prospect of eating its words on Russian tactics and how it’s trying to avoid doing that.
Also contains a line applicable to Johnson: there’s no such thing as an “ex” CIA, Simplicius76 says.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 21 2023 3:43 utc | 192

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 19 Apr 2023⚡️
🔹#Russia’s Border Areas:
▪️ In the #Belgorod region, an explosion has occurred in a residential development in the south of #Belgorod. According to an official report from the Russian Ministry of Defence, it was caused by an abnormal descent of an aircraft munition from a Su-34 bomber. There were no casualties.
▪️ In the #Bryansk region, the Ukrainian terrorist formations fired mortars at the village of #Lomakovka, residential buildings and a substation were damaged. According to preliminary reports, there are casualties.
🔹 #Starobelsk (#Svatovo) Direction:
▪️ There are no significant changes on the front, positional fighting and artillery duels continue.
🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction (MAP):
▪️ In the western outskirts of #Bakhmut, Wagner PMC assault squads have taken control of the strongholds of the AFU’s 93rd Mechanized Brigade at the #Khromovo – Chasov Yar highway.
▪️ In the central part of the city, Russian units liberated the area of the Transit Hotel, pushing the enemy back from the railway.
➖ West of the grain elevator, Ukrainian formations are making unsuccessful attempts at local counterattacks.
▪️ On the northern outskirts, the “Wagnerians” are advancing in a broad front along the streets of Levanevsky, Oborony and Pobedy.
➖ Fighting continues for control of the large garage cooperative located between Levanevsky Street and Chaykovsky Street.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ The Ukrainian terrorist formations continue indiscriminate shelling of the DPR capital, two houses were damaged in Kirovsky and Petrovsky districts of #Donetsk, one woman was killed.
▪️ In #Maryinka, Motorized rifle units of the RF Armed Forces took the Fire Station on the western edge of Druzhba Avenue in a semi-circle. At the moment, the territory is being cleaned of the Ukrainian remnants.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ The situation has not undergone significant changes, the enemy is strengthening defensive lines on the frontline and conducting reconnaissance of engineering structures of the RF Armed Forces.
🔹#Kherson Direction on #SouthFront:
▪️ Russian units hit AFU facilities on the right bank of the #Dnieper near #Kherson.
➖ In turn, the Ukrainian terrorist formations shelled civilian infrastructure and residential buildings in Nova Kakhovka, #Kakhovka, #Gornostayevka, #Krynki and #Kardashinka.
🔸Political and other Events:
▪️ #NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, during a visit to #Kiev, announced strong support from Western countries for #Ukraine, promising further arms supplies.
▪️ The Commission of the Ukrainian Ministry of Culture, supported by police and armed groups, has taken control of the Kiev Pechersk Lavra’s 39th building.
▪️ #Kiev city council terminated land lease agreement with the Russian embassy.
▪️ The US State Department has announced a new $325m military aid package for #Ukraine, which will include HIMARS missiles, mortars, artillery shells and guided air bombs.

https://t.me/sitreports/7472

Posted by: Down South | Apr 21 2023 4:06 utc | 193

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🤚 Military Expert Boris Rozhin on the Situation in the #Artyomovsk (#Bakhmut) Sector as of 23:11 Moscow Time on 20 April 2023⚡️
🗓 By the End of 20 April, the situation for fans of Adolf Hitler’s and Stepan Bandera’s ideas in #Artyomovsk had worsened.
🔹In the City, Wagner PMC assault squads continued to push the enemy towards the multistory buildings on the western outskirts of #Artyomovsk, advancing through the northwestern neighbourhoods and west of the city centre. The enemy lost all its main positions near the railway tracks and Railway Station. There is also heavy pressure in the southwestern quarters to the east of the monument to the pilots.
🔹In Addition, pressure has intensified to the northwest of #Khromovo, where our troops came close to the road to #Khromovo through a wooded area, which has dramatically increased the number of destroyed AFU equipment that tried to break through from Chasov Yar on the road and fields between #Khromovo and #Krasnoye. Physically the route has not yet been cut off (there is still no photo/video confirmation), but fire control over a number of its sections is complete, which is reflected in the increase in losses of the AFU – up to a battalion of infantry per day.
🔹The Enemy’s Attempts to counterattack are stopped in the city by Wagner, and to the north and west of the city by Airborne Forces.
➖ The frontline at #Krasnoye has not changed fundamentally.
🔹In Addition, Enemy Concentrations in the #Slavyansk – #Kramatorsk agglomeration are regularly hit by missiles, drones and planning aerial bombs, which also leads to an increase in losses for the AFU. One of these strikes hit the command post of the operational group “Bakhmut”.
📌 Wagner currently controls around 83-84% of #Artyomovsk.

https://t.me/sitreports/7471

Posted by: Down South | Apr 21 2023 4:07 utc | 194

Young is really obsessed with getting nuked, and he is now a troll in my eyes. He knows no history nor the proper context of the nukes that will come for his country, as there are still many steps that have to be passed before that happens…sheesh.
I decry his ignorance, LOL. The Holy Roman Empire’s last hurrah will include nuking your USA but not for another few years yet, Russia on the other hand will be facing the leader of the HRE with the prophesied 200 million man army after the whirlwind listed in Daniel..

Posted by: Arcticman | Apr 21 2023 4:23 utc | 195

RFK jr on Ukraine:
In Ukraine, the most important priority is to end the suffering of the Ukrainian people, victims of a brutal Russian invasion, and also victims of American geopolitical machinations going back at least to 2014. Diplomacy has never really been tried. We will offer to withdraw our troops and nuclear-capable missiles from Russia’s borders. Russia will withdraw its troops from Ukraine and guarantee its freedom and independence. UN peacekeepers will guarantee peace to the Russian-speaking eastern regions. We will put an end to this war. We will put an end to the suffering of the Ukranian people. That will be the start of a broader program of demilitarization of all countries.

Posted by: Blabbycat | Apr 21 2023 4:29 utc | 196

@Blabbycat 195:
Those “Russian speaking Eastern regions” are now de jure Russian territory so best of luck to RFK getting UN “peacekeepers” there.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 21 2023 4:41 utc | 197

A newer video from hromadske, a med evac guy from the 93rd Uke brigade making 2 trips into Bakhmut getting some lightly wounded out. Overall, pretty bleak for the Ukies in the video, expect the Slavic fatalism of the 3 infantry collecting the rifles from the wounded guys leaving and heading back to their positions. The hromadske crew didn’t send their main female reporter into the city, she only shows up in the ambulance ride the last few minutes of the video. Of the 4 lightly wounded guys in that vehicle, 3 are well over 50 years of age. The one oldest looking guy, who seems to have been severely concussed and/or PTSD out, barely can talk in any real sentences, ends up slumping over on the younger guy on the ride out. U.S. Congress and State Dept people should watch these videos on a continuously loop everyday.Such misery and worthless loss…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_OAI2XbpO4&t=56s

Posted by: DakotaRog | Apr 21 2023 4:45 utc | 198

Hermit | Apr 21 2023 2:15 utc | 182–
Thanks for the reply and kudos. I seem to write best in the mornings.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 21 2023 4:55 utc | 199

@ Hermius 145
Betrays is one of those idiots who will never fight clean. His intention is a nuclear strike which might take time to prepare the public for. Then he’ll be left with two craters in Eastern Europe, one in Ukraine and one in Russia, and 500 craters where used to be the major cities and installations of NATO.
Hexshould stick to womanising and keep his mouth firmly shut.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2023 5:20 utc | 200

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