i think if ”
a lasting Peace does not come to middle east there will be no Israel after the dust settles.
Forces are in place to push Israel out of the Middle East.

Posted by: snake | Apr 8 2023 16:33 utc | 3

Well this news in terms of the Yemen War is fantastic truly wonderful. It is also brilliant to see the troubles in the Middle East being jointly finished by all countries. It’s a beautiful gift for Easter.
It shows what truly Great Statesman and Leaders can achieve with Diplomacy, Dignity and Courage real courage in the face of continued aggression by the USA.
God Bless Xi and Putin and the Crown Prince Bin Salman. They are changing the World for the better.

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Apr 8 2023 16:36 utc | 5

Where are those A-10’s going to be based? They can’t operate off aircraft carriers. Middle Eastern countries should probably invite the US to evacuate their military bases and go home.

Posted by: Jeff Harrison | Apr 8 2023 16:44 utc | 7

What a joy it would be to have peace in the world.
Thanks for the posting b.
What I keep expecting to see is/are assassination attempts of a few leaders to scare the others.
With the leadership of Xi, Putin and others, the world outside of empire is turning all that war energy back on empire such that it will destroy itself.
That is what we have been watching so far and there is more to go…..think about when all those US troops on foreign soil are forced home to a country that is a financialized shell of its former self…..it won’t be pretty but needs to happen, IMO.
I will try and live through it and educate my fellow Americans about alternatives to the God Of Mammon way

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2023 16:51 utc | 9

The best hope for a secure and peaceful Jewish State remains UN Resolution 181. 181 remains the sole internationally recognized boundries between the 2 states.
Let‘s pray that peace comes soon.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 8 2023 16:57 utc | 11

Great to hear that there’s light at the end of the tunnel regarding the war against Yemen. Now, it’s only a matter of time for US-led forces in Syria to be evicted. The big one will be the closure of Al Udeid Air Base; no need for other forces to take over. I hope the old trick of offering a solution for a problem that you purposefully created doesn’t fool anyone anymore.

Posted by: Ian2 | Apr 8 2023 17:09 utc | 13

The rapid disintegration of whatever it was the Trump administration had been attempting in the ME – and at the time it appeared as a major shift, particularly by KSA – is a stark and visible reversal of the usual bi-partisan continuity in US foreign policy. It underlines that a Washington Consensus is a very real thing, and that the Trump admin was not part of it. But why or how this Consensus lost its local affiliates so relatively rapidly after the Dem foreign policy team returned to power is interesting to ponder.

Posted by: jayc | Apr 8 2023 17:22 utc | 15

Strange times.
For the coalition lacking the shock&awe brute force USSA slaughter the innocent women and children to win the war. A tried and true method by the USSA dating back to 1948 in Korea.
On the ground. The supposedly so called back in the stone age native militias. Rather than being an easy clay pigeon target. Have consistently out fought out shoot and outwit and completely confuse the invading forces. Since the day UK planted the flag in Aden.
As for this so called illusion of peace put forward. Will be stuck on the point as to how much the greedy Faisal family of thieves can steal all the fossil pollutant reserves held within the 200 km coastal reserves.
I would classify this as fake truce of sorts to allow the Faisal family to steal every last barrel or cubic meter of gas from Yemen.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Apr 8 2023 17:32 utc | 17

The moneylenders tables being well and truly turned over; Happy Easter

Posted by: Red | Apr 8 2023 17:47 utc | 19

Russia & China outplayed Amerika in the ME and that’s a good thing for them. Pepe E. for your reading pleasure.
https://thecradle.co/article-view/23394/iran-and-saudi-arabia-a-chinese-win-win
Thanks b

Posted by: jo6pac | Apr 8 2023 17:58 utc | 21

Uh oh, guess Commissar is part Houthi in addition to being Slav master race.

Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 8 2023 18:04 utc | 23

Let’s also remember Trump’s contributions to peace in the middle east with the Abraham accords.
Iran to Israel through Saudi arabia?
Hard to see now but the bridge is there and its saudi arabia.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 8 2023 16:34 utc | 4
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Trump did what? Contributions to peace?

Posted by: Ed | Apr 8 2023 18:05 utc | 25

Posted by: Exile | Apr 8 2023 16:57 utc | 11
Why should any part of this land be shared with a bunch of grifters who murdered so many to get it?
And if this land is partitioned between those grifters and it’s native people, who will have the rights to the resources around it, and who will have the right to an army? Who will have the sovereign right to host any ally of it’s choosing on the land? What happens in conflicts with other bordering states?
UN resolution 181 is another stupidity brought to us by the ‘geniuses’ who created this mess to begin with …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2023 18:11 utc | 27

Soon Israel will no longer have the USA to rely upon. When that day comes, Israel will either repent coming to the Lord Jesus Christ or they will perish. The best I can understand from the Bible, they will repent obtaining the protection of the Lord.
Posted by: young | Apr 8 2023 18:05 utc | 24
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You’re a sick puppy Mr. Young. Your kind has been singing this song for 2223 years (plus or minus), yet nothing. Events in almost every generation brings out the end of days prophets, and the generations pass, on, and new prophets rise, but Jesus never does.
But one does have to respect the pertinacity of the of the end of days prophets; as someone who has lived part of my childhood in a fundamentalist orphanage and/or with fundamentalist foster parents, I know that I do.

Posted by: Ed | Apr 8 2023 18:29 utc | 29

The most dramatic story here of all is Saudi Arabia continuing to thumb its nose at the US. Fifty years ago, there was a lot of talk about the US simply invading the Arab side of the Persian Gulf, taking all the oil, and building a wall around the area after expelling the few inhabitants. This was never really doable, but now the neocons can’t even mouth it. Fifty years ago, Al Sa`ud was considered an unpopular royal family that ran to the US for protection, so the US protected them in exchange for their undertaking to modulate the price of oil and recycle their dollar-denominated profits to purchases of US government bonds and US military equipment. And the US security-trained MBS didn’t seem likely to rock the boat, because who would have ever thought such a small and weak country could turn on the US that much? Without Saudi Arabia as the linchpin of the American system in the Middle East, what do they have? Egypt, which is more dependent of Saudi and the Emirates than it is on the US? So this is a great reversal of fortune.
As for the comparison of Saudi Arabia with Georgia @ futkon | Apr 8 2023 16:37 utc | 6, the Georgians continue to hope for US support against Russia to get back what they regard as their terra irrendenta in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, so opposing the US is not so popular, despite what the alignment with the US has actually done to their country. But in the Arab world, after all the US, its military, and its neocons have inflicted on the region, the street is decidedly very anti-US, so MBS can only gain in internal popularity by opposing it.
The other thing is the hysteria of the settler movement in Israel. It seems that many of the non-settler Israelis are starting to worry enough about their survival to come out against the settlers. The settlers have only one goal: the complete ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from Palestine. This fits with their nationalist logic but looks especially ugly in our world of mass communication today, nor are the settlers very popular even within their own nationality, let alone outside of it. So no wonder they are hysterical. They continue to hope for a general war that will give them cover to drive out the Palestinians, but that wouldn’t be easy in any case. Nevertheless, they remain a dangerous element in the mix, and the US as usual remains supine before their depredations.

Posted by: Cabe | Apr 8 2023 18:42 utc | 31

” You’re a sick puppy Mr. Young. Your kind has been singing this song for 2223 years (plus or minus), yet nothing. Events in almost every generation brings out the end of days prophets, and the generations pass, on, and new prophets rise, but Jesus never does.
Posted by: Ed | Apr 8 2023 18:29 utc | 29 ”
Well said. Cuckstianity is a Zio form of mind control by design. Notice how willing he’s to absolve his Zio masters of any crimes and guilt as long as they “repent”. Fortunately, thats not how the universe works. At this point, the only way for the Zios to ” repent ” is if they collectively ” off ” themselves.
Do not forget, do not forgive.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 8 2023 18:46 utc | 33

The US Govt is like someone with herpes who thinks preventing everyone else from getting laid will somehow cure it from the nasty disease it got from being the reckless arrogant bunch of (#*&$ we all know they are.

Posted by: Et Tu | Apr 8 2023 18:47 utc | 35

Lovely if it happens.
The details will be worth looking at very carefully.
I wonder if Socotra will be mentioned. (A Yemeni island where Israel the Emirates are setting up military bases. Expelling the Yemenis who lived there)
But there is always hope and the bright side to look for.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 8 2023 18:49 utc | 37

” I’ll believe Saudi and UAE exit from Yemen when I see it – the fractures within Yemen itself will remain … Yemenis could do with a break – but I suspect that the Iron Hand of Saudi and UAE influence on Yemen will remain …. unless Iran can come in as facilitator of the future …
Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 8 2023 18:47 utc | 36 ”
In the agreement with Saudi Arabia, Iran purportedly agreed to stop arming the Houthis.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 8 2023 18:51 utc | 39

Ever since Iran announced its proposed security/peace plan–HOPE–at the UNGA in 2019 by President Rouhani–which was a mirror of Russia’s long proposed plan–there’s been lots of diplomatic negotiations between all the players along with some pushing on the battlefield that led to the Outlaw US Empire’s cancellation of itself in the region when Trump murdered Soleimani and his Iraqi partner. Iran’s response then showed the region its capabilities and that peace is a much better path. That this peace is being arrived at between what’s called a hardline Iranian government and the Saudis shows the continuation of Rouhani’s policy, which is clearly Khamani’s. As Escobar, Crooke and others familiar with the regional dynamics have written over the years, to get results of this sort takes much diplomatic tact, time and related patience, things the Outlaw US Empire lacks as we just saw with the DCI’s visit and the weak show of force. Apparently, the Empire pukes didn’t notice that Russia and China are the guarantors of this agreement and the others that are forthcoming.
What happens within Occupied Palestine has been the subject of speculation since the beginning of February when the centrifugal forces made themselves overt. Crooke’s latest today addresses the larger moves to peace and relegates Nuttyahoo’s problems to the corner but doesn’t completely dismiss them and is a must read. The parent site has several articles about current happenings, this being the first I’d suggest.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 8 2023 19:02 utc | 41

According to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide,4 genocide includes various acts “committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group” as such, including:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; and
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.5
This definition is reflected in Article 6 of the Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC), which has jurisdiction over crimes occurring on the territory of the State of Palestine since June 13, 2014.6
The Genocide Convention was written in the aftermath of World War II
Unfortunately it is the Dream and ideological aim of right wing Israel & many US Christians.

Posted by: ATM | Apr 8 2023 19:15 utc | 43

It’s more coordinated and concerted than it meets the eye.
Many believed that countries would de-dollarize in response to anti Russian sanctions and asset seizure merely out of self preservation.
While that’s indeed happening, no one predicted so many would de-dollarize so fast in so little time. Last month witnessed dozens of agreements including those between Brazil-China, pan-Latin American currency, Mexico desiring BRICS, Russia-global Yuan trade, India-ASEAN, first yuan LNG transaction from UAE, Kenya of all countries demanding non-dollar with Saudi etc.
But these peace deals in the Middle East are a complete surprise to everybody.
I have an incredibly difficult time believing they’re organic and not in the works for a very long time.
The global conspiracies like the “big reset” schemed up at Davos are nothing compared to the behind-the-scenes master plans carefully formulated by Putin and Xi Jinping to overthrow the US empire with almost all Global South leaders in on it with various degrees of cooperation.
We’re most likely witnessing the largest revolution in human history to overthrow an empire.

Posted by: FieryButMostPeaceful | Apr 8 2023 19:18 utc | 45

🚨 BREAKING: A burst of three rockets from Syria targets the occupied Golan without activating the “Iron Dome.” One of the rockets made impact near a zionist settlement in the area. Two fell in an open area.
Syria breaks its slumber.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/53609
Resistance fighters open fire on zionist settlement guards in the settlement of “Rehelim” near #Nablus.
Resistance fighters open fire on IOF soldiers in #Qalqilya.
🚨 Settlers’ homes in the settlement of “Ma’ale Gilboa” are damaged after being heavily shot at by resistance fighters. This settlement is built on the Palestinian land of Jalboun, #Jenin.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/53610
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/53611
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/53613

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 8 2023 19:33 utc | 47

Iran Observer tweets:

Hebrew sources: Unofficial reports from Lebanon indicate the arrival of senior Iranian military officers in Beirut
right now; The heads of Hamas, Islamic Jihad are there along with Hezbollah Secretary General Nasrallah
7:21 PM · Apr 8, 2023 · 3,434 Views

https://twitter.com/Iranobserver01/status/1644752263749988353

Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2023 19:35 utc | 49

The dragon is coming.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 8 2023 17:15 utc | 14

It is here and has had its eyes open for a while. It moves slowly to guarantee momentum.

Posted by: Rae | Apr 8 2023 19:56 utc | 51

Threats to the Saudi’s and Iran by the US might not be enough this time and conflict might be a foregone conclusion, the US and its oppressive apartheid regime of Israel can’t afford to stand by and see China and Russia get Iran and the Saudi’s onside, which in the most art would lead to a breakout of peace in the region.
I expect some sort of event to take place that leads to hostilities, the USA’s proxy terrorist fighters will probably begin the conflict and give the US an excuse to step in.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 8 2023 20:11 utc | 53

Republicofscotland | Apr 8 2023 20:11 utc | 53
So, the US will not only fight Russia, threaten China … they will fight Syria, Iran and KSA and the rest of the Arab countries in ME … for Israel?
With what?

Posted by: crone | Apr 8 2023 20:19 utc | 55

@Deplorable Commissar, #52:
Smart as you are I thought the answer to your curiosity should have been self-realizable easily. China has refrained (so has Russia)from supplying Iran with top-notch weaponries, in consideration for Israil security. There isn’t any international law against doing so. China/Russia doing so would chill the Anglo-Zionist spines.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 8 2023 20:29 utc | 57

By the way, Israil, on the other hand, has stealthily supplied top notch weaponries to India. Not that China is paranoid about it. It has been understood mutually that China/Israil would not do things to undermine each others’ national securities.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 8 2023 20:31 utc | 59

Lurking behind the peace push is the well recognized, beyond essential requirement, to diversify economic development in preparation for the days when the hydrocarbon riches are depleted. I’ve mused about that before and posted the following comment at Escobar’s VK in response to his recent column:
“Your article sparked an idea: Under Persian Gulf pipeline from Saudi to Iran, then to Pakistan and onto China that would help get the Peace Pipeline finished through Pakistan into India and beyond. And Iraq must get involved. My quick addition says India will need to consume at least as much oil as China has this century just to catch up, and then there’re the needs of all the nations to India’s East. And the energy rich also need to send their products West to Africa, which will need as much as India just for starters.
“Over 25 years ago, you noted energy would be the main driver of geopolitics and geoeconomics in the 21st Century, but it appears too many have forgotten that North America has used up most of its endowment and within the next several decades will become energy poor. When the history of the early 21st Century is written in 50 years, the Neocons will be seen as huge failures for their inability to capitalize on capturing West Asian energy–their failure was to prioritize Occupied Palestine over the energy riches and to allow the Neoliberal Parasites to run wild.”
Getting the dollar out of the international energy trade is key because US-based inflation will cease to cause poor nations to lack for energy, with the arrangement between Kenya and Saudi being the first of many. IMO, it’s important to stop comparing the dollar with all other national currencies and start referencing the yuan over the next several years until Ukraine is solved and the ruble regains its convertibility. The other part of this equation are the illegal sanctions, as once the new regime of clearing mechanisms is in place circumventing the remaining choke points the Outlaw US Empire can employ, the sanctions become meaningless as they become unenforceable.
Many nations set goals for 2030, and the main requirement for most to come close to attaining those goals is peace and stability in the international marketplace, which is currently being rendered dysfunctional by the Outlaw US Empire’s illegalities as it tries to enforce its waning hegemony. China’s three Initiatives, its similar agreements with Russia combined with Russia’s newly announced foreign policy concept are all designed to lead, promote, shape, and bring to reality a revamped multipolar system of relations are desired by all nations outside of the NATO Bloc. Again, that’s 7/8s of the planet’s people and the nations having the vast majority of essential resources. All EuroAmericans have is fiat cash and massive corruption along with a feeble industrial base that continues to be robbed of its vitality.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 8 2023 20:35 utc | 61

It is weird that the believers of the Abrahamic religions fight each other with the same God on their side.
Posted by: too scents | Apr 8 2023 20:32 utc | 60
It’s the height of arrogance and navel gazing hubris to assume that an entity created all of the matter, space, and energy that comprises existence just for some johnny come lately talking monkeys on a tiny spec of dust in middle of nowhere. Top that off with that entity being concerned with who you fuck, what you think and any significance your existence from the state change that brought you into consciousness and the one that took you out.
What could possibly be the use of continuing such a consciousness whatsoever? Torture the tiny stupid creature ad infinitum? Come on what the fuck does anyone know or have achieved that would serve any purpose in keeping a record of? So this perfect creation of yours actually requires micro-mangement or the talking monkeys lose their shit? Seriously.

Posted by: liveload | Apr 8 2023 20:40 utc | 63

@4, @15, @48, The “Trump administration” never existed, was opposite of what it promised 2016 voters, immediately backtracked on The Wall saying would have to ask congress, made Jared Kushner de facto president. “Abraham Accords” was merely a weapons deal betw. Israel & UAE. In 2017 alone Trump dropped 60,000 bombs. He bombed Syria and Afghanistan 10 wks after inauguration, in April 2017 publicly surrendered his Cmdr in Chief duties to “his generals” in Pentagon, in July 2017 went on tv to announce he now thinks endless Mideast wars are necessary. In Aug. 2017, humiliating him in front of the world & nullifying his 2016 voters (who’d voted to normalize relations w Russia), all Russia decisions were removed from him by House & Senate & reassigned to Senate.”Hero?” Yes, Hero of Davos. On March 13, 2020 Trump unilaterally overthrew US, suspended US Constitution, said children should stay home from school, thus causing millions of parents to leave or quit their jobs to stay home w. children. Never in history have millions of healthy people been forced to isolate and lockdown. Trump is a girly man whose only job is to stay in headlines 24/7 to raise cash for RNC/WinRed/Trump/Kushner Family & Girlfriends profit centers.

Posted by: susan mullen | Apr 8 2023 20:53 utc | 65

@liveload63. Its actually the height of arrogance and navel gazing hubris to discount the good that a religious belief can have on an individual.
I get it. It isn’t for you, or me for that matter. That being said WTF are you to tell others what to believe? A big fat fucking ZERO is who. Get over yourself and leave others alone. Seriously.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 8 2023 20:56 utc | 67

When a former Israeli Defense Minister known for his hawkish views on the Palestinians and Iran’s government comes out publicly with warnings of the Israeli govt’s self-destructive actions and behaviour, and warns of Israel becoming a mirror of Nazi Germany (in his references to “Mein Kampf” in reverse), you certainly know that Israel is in a state of existential crisis. Especially as its neighbours are demonstrating the use of diplomacy and discussion to resolve what were once considered intractable problems lasting for decades. Whatever “role” Israel was supposed to serve on its founding in 1948 no longer exists (if it ever did, Israel itself coming into being through terrorist actions) thanks to Israel’s own thoughtless activities over the past 75 years.
Future historians are likely to view (if they are honest) the period of Israel’s existence for what it really is: a wolf masquerading as a sheepdog supposedly to help keep a neocolonialisr peace in the Middle East on behalf of the West.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 8 2023 20:58 utc | 69

too Scents @68 “What is a schism worth?”
I think you have to go back to the beginning of monotheism and work forward from there. Pharaoh Akhenaten usually gets the credit in 1350 BC..

Posted by: dh | Apr 8 2023 21:03 utc | 71

America sending a warship to the Middle East has nothing to do with ensuring peace they are there to stir up war. people say its the administration not the people, that’s bulls**t they are all invested in the military industrial complex, pensions and prosperity of Americans depends on them making a profit from death and destruction. Anyone who is invested in the MIC through there investments individually or through an investment for their pensions etc are just s guilty as the ones who invested in cigarette manufacturers who also profited through death and disease.

Posted by: Les | Apr 8 2023 21:20 utc | 73

@liveload63. Its actually the height of arrogance and navel gazing hubris to discount the good that a religious belief can have on an individual.
I get it. It isn’t for you, or me for that matter. That being said WTF are you to tell others what to believe? A big fat fucking ZERO is who. Get over yourself and leave others alone. Seriously.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 8 2023 20:56 utc | 67
See that’s the problem, a simple concept cannot be kept intact in any reality involving humans. You say one thing, the damn apes go off, once again, doing their own thing. Do you people even hear yourselves?

Posted by: liveload | Apr 8 2023 21:38 utc | 75

ahh it seems the time has come
peops you better start to dance because the vibe is coming .)

Posted by: Macpott | Apr 8 2023 21:47 utc | 77

“The Saudis have had enough of U.S. interference in their region. They are looking for development and development requires peace.”
That is surely part of it. I think another part though was the illuminative aspect of the $300B confiscation of Russian assets by the west on the excuse of the Uke war, a war that the western powers were not even involved with, except by proxy. I think the Arabs thought to themselves “if they can do this to Russia, why wouldn’t they do it to us in the future using some other stupid and convenient excuse?”
All the trillions they have invested in the west are vulnerable and they know it. As soon as it’s convenient, there will be some proxy war, “terrorist event,” etc. that will allow London and DC to lock down and then absorb the $$. The Arabs need to begin the process of divestment from the west … but they need to do it in such a way as to not trigger an immediate takeover.
Posted by: Caliman | Apr 8 2023 18:46 utc | 32
yes, that is key, Russia, China all got cured of parasitical fever the same way.

Posted by: botmetkas@gmail.com | Apr 8 2023 21:55 utc | 79

” @Deplorable Commissar, #52:
Smart as you are I thought the answer to your curiosity should have been self-realizable easily. China has refrained (so has Russia)from supplying Iran with top-notch weaponries, in consideration for Israil security. There isn’t any international law against doing so. China/Russia doing so would chill the Anglo-Zionist spines.
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 8 2023 20:29 utc | 57 ”
As smart as you seem , the following information should’ve been know by you already.
– Israel-China Arms Trade: Unfreezing Times
July 16, 2012 –
https://www.mei.edu/publications/israel-china-arms-trade-unfreezing-times
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ISRAELIS AIDED CHINA ON MISSILES
By David B. OttawayMay 23, 1988 –
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/05/23/israelis-aided-china-on-missiles/ac476260-1cc5-4879-9de3-b3993dfec57b/
– Between Beijing and Washington: Israel’s Technology Transfers to China
Yoram Evron
Journal of East Asian Studies
Vol. 13, No. 3 (SEPTEMBER–DECEMBER 2013), –
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26335261
– Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China
24 Dec 2013 –
https://www.military.com/defensetech/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china#:~:text=Secret%20U.S.%20missile%20and%20electro,Israeli%20defense%20official%20to%20resign.
– The U.S.-China-Israel Technology Triangle –
https://www.cfr.org/blog/us-china-israel-technology-triangle

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 8 2023 22:30 utc | 81

Mashallah. 140,000 Palestinians and others prayed Tarawi prayers outside Masjid Al Aqsa this evening.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2023 22:36 utc | 83

Posted by: Dan Farrand | Apr 8 2023 20:25 utc | 56
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A response to the God navel gazing trolls who like to interject their religious views into the very serious MoA discussions about modern geopolitical issues.
God is omnipresent: She knows everything in advance and therefore she cannot change or repent.
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1. “God is not a man that he should lie; neither the son of a man that he should repent.” Numbers 23
2. “The Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.” 1 Samuel 15:29
3. “The Lord … will not repent.” Psalm 110:4
4. “I the LORD have spoken it: it shall come to pass, and I will do it; I will not go back, neither will I spare, neither will I repent.” Ezekiel 24:14
6. “For I am the Lord, I change not.” Malachi 3:6
7. “With whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.” James 1:17
God repents; therefore, she is not omnipresent, and neither is she God.
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1.Before the flood (and just after the sons of God had sex with the daughters of men), God repented for having made humans. “And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart”. Genesis 6:6
2. “And Moses besought the LORD … Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath and repent of this evil against thy people. … And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.” Exodus 32:11-14
3. God threatens to judge his people and repent by killing everyone, saying, “I will make mine arrows drunk with blood and my sword shall devour flesh.” Deuteronomy 32:42
4.”For the Lord shall judge his people and repent himself for his servants…. I kill … I wound … I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh.” Deuteronomy 32:36-42
5. God repented after selling the Israelites to their enemies (because of their groanings).
“It repented the LORD because of their groanings.” Judges 2:18
6. After Saul failed to commit complete genocide as God commanded, God repented of making Saul king.
“It repenteth me [God] that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments [Committing complete genocide on the Amalekits] … and the LORD repented that he had made Saul king over Israel.” 1 Samuel 15:11, 35
7. After God killed 70,000 men (and 200,000 or so women and children) in a pestilence to punish Israel for a census that God (and/or Satan) inspired, “the Lord repented him of the evil” and quit killing people.
“The anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah. … So, the LORD sent a pestilence upon Israel from the morning even to the time appointed: and there died of the people from Dan even to Beersheba seventy thousand men. And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, it is enough: stay now thine hand.” 2 Samuel 24:1-16
8. And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel. … And God was displeased with this thing; therefore, he smote Israel. … So, the LORD sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men. And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the LORD beheld, and he repented him [self] of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, it is enough, stay now thine hand.” 1 Chronicles 21:1-15
9. If a nation repents of its evil, God will repent of the evil things he had planned to do to it.
“If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.” Jeremiah 18:8
10. “If so, be they will hearken, and turn every man from his evil way, that I [God] may repent me of the evil, which I purpose to do unto them because of the evil of their doings. Jeremiah 26:3
11. Therefore, now amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you. Jeremiah 26:13
12. “Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him at all to death? Did he not fear the LORD, and besought the LORD, and the LORD repented him of the evil which he had pronounced against them? Thus might we procure great evil against our souls.” Jeremiah 26:19
13. “If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: for I [God] repent me of the evil that I have done unto you.” Jeremiah 42:10
14. If a nation does evil, God will repent of the good things he was planning to do to it.
“If it does evil in my sight, that it obeys not my voice, then I [God] will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.” Jeremiah 18:8
15. After Jonah’s converted the people of Ninevah, God repented of the evil that he planned to do to them.
“So, Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh … So, the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth … For word came unto the king of Nineveh … and he … covered him with sackcloth and sat in ashes … saying … let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God. … God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them.” Jonah 3:3-10
16. In Amos’s first vision, God makes grass-eating grasshoppers, and then repents.
“GOD shewed unto me; and behold, he formed grasshoppers … when they had made an end of eating the grass … The Lord repented for this.” Amos 7:1-3
17. In Amos’s second vision, God burns up the earth and sea, and then repents.
“Behold, the Lord GOD called to contend by fire, and it devoured the great deep, and did eat up a part. … The LORD repented for this.” Amos 7:4-6
18. “I [God] am weary of repenting.” Jeremiah 15:6
Yes, I know that apologists have spent 2000 years trying to explain away these embarrassing contradiction and they have failed.
At MoA, using religion to support a position about modern geopolitical issues is nonsense, and off the subject; but the neo-God trolls keep bringing it up as an answer to complicated issues, and they often work in pairs and groups. I have noticed this on many other sites as well.

Posted by: Ed | Apr 8 2023 22:42 utc | 85

@ Ed 85
Your counting is good.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2023 23:00 utc | 87

@85 Ed
The Gnostics openly declared the war mongering schizophrenic Old Testament God a pretender. A creator he may be, but Yaldabaoth a bastard child of Sophia’s irreverence toward the natural order of things.

Posted by: Jacq | Apr 8 2023 23:20 utc | 89

Saudi delegation in Iran to discuss reopening diplomatic missions:
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/04/08/701199/Iran-Saudi-Arabia-delegation-embassy-consulate-general-Tehran-Mashhad-Foreign-Ministry

Posted by: Menz | Apr 8 2023 23:29 utc | 91

The dinosaurs ruled the earth for 230 million years
I doubt the human race can survive that long
So take a step back from yourself, and have a good laugh.

Posted by: Dingo | Apr 8 2023 23:35 utc | 93

Hezbollah fought to a draw but a win is beyond them — Don Firineach | Apr 8 2023 18:47 utc | 36
Yeah, dream on, dude. Israel’s another paper tiger. Lots of unsupported pretension. Their days are numbered. Start counting. — john | Apr 8 2023 19:52 utc | 50
I think that if “a win” was within reach of Hezbollah, they could go for it. IDF has a big advantage in terms of weapons and manpower, and it seems to be diligent in training the soldiers and periodically recalled reservists (this diligence may vary according to my sole observation point, a visit to Israel to do some joint research, as my host was called to reserve duty, I visited his rather hilarious military unit consisting solely of reservists).
IDF also has an illustrious history of blitzkriegs and large scale battles. Recently, it developed unparallel expertise in harassing villagers, e.g. unique formulation of “skunk water”, specialized machines for uprooting olive trees and application of herbicides (a bit less successful with sheep), clobbering worshippers etc., raising doubts if their current capabilities match their former glory. But I still see no match between defensive capabilities of IDF and offensive capabilities of Hezbollah. IDF has very complete kit of weaponry, can mobilize a vast trained manpower and a short border to defend. Hezbollah has at least 5 if not 10 times smaller manpower and very incomplete kit of weapons. However, if the tables are reversed, defensive capability of Hezbollah is nothing to sneer about.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 8 2023 23:47 utc | 95

@liveload. Thanks for the sitrep on your anti human stance. FOAD. As kindly as humanly possible that is.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 8 2023 23:31 utc | 92
Again with the butthurt, lol yeah ok dude. Like that’s what this is about. See this is what I’m talking about. You immediately assume you think you know what I’m talking about but you don’t know a fucking thing. Where did I attack you personally? Now you can either address any of my points and withdraw your idiotic ad hominem attacks.

Posted by: liveload | Apr 8 2023 23:50 utc | 97

About prophecies and documented edicts of the Lord: it is clear that the Lord is changing His mind from time to time, and why should He not? So, after so many centuries without credible prophecies (apologies to Latter Day Saints, Rastafarians etc.), we need to use our reason to figure the good and the bad, who should be smitten, who should be lauded etc.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 8 2023 23:55 utc | 99