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April 26, 2023
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For a little entertainment, you can watch the South Korean president sing “American Pie”. Posted by: denk | Apr 27 2023 17:49 utc | 101 Myself, my last two Prezzy votes were for Jill Stein and Gloria La Riva (the latter primarily because of her running mate). I mean, since my vote is meaningless anyway, why shouldn’t I vote my conscience? Posted by: malenkov | Apr 27 2023 18:18 utc | 102 john f kennedy who appointed Robert McNamara ( the bomb by the numbers man at the heart of Heller’s ‘Catch 22’ as Secretary of defense, Dean Rusk (he who was a former president of the Rockefeller Foundation & insisted on escalation in Vietnam), Posted by: denk | Apr 27 2023 18:21 utc | 103 @malenkov 102 Posted by: Not Ewe | Apr 27 2023 18:26 utc | 105 @Debsisdead, #74: @denk, #101 and #103: Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 27 2023 18:58 utc | 106 #105 Posted by: Dingo | Apr 27 2023 19:04 utc | 107 @denk, #100: Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 27 2023 19:06 utc | 108 SpaceX inadvertently makes an experiment illustrating what happened 12800 years ago Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 27 2023 19:38 utc | 109 It is often said that a picture paints a thousand words, so here’s 2,000 words worth: Posted by: West of England Andy | Apr 27 2023 20:24 utc | 110 THE DIRTY TRICKS DEPT. spooked the crowd at RFK Jr.’s announcement speech last week. As RFK Jr. was finishing up on U.S. imperialism, CIA overthrows and the DoD Budget–all of a sudden the fire alarm went off followed by an announcement to leave the building. RFK Jr. looked over and was instructed that everything was OK–he made a joke and the speech continued. Posted by: Dulles_Did_Dallas | Apr 27 2023 21:08 utc | 111 SO I DEFINITELY EXPECT PLENTY OF FUCKERY TOWARDS RFK JR. BY DEEP STATE VIA MSM/SM (INCLUDING COMMENT SECTIONS) Posted by: Dulles_Did_Dallas | Apr 27 2023 21:28 utc | 112 @ Dulles_Did_Dallas | Apr 27 2023 21:28 utc | 112 who’s moniker I agree with along with the RFK Jr perspective Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 27 2023 22:04 utc | 113 If (like me) you are struggling to understand what’s going on in the horn of Africa, Afshin Rattansi’s Going Underground has an informative interview that is worth watching. No prizes for guessing who’s in the background orchestrating chaos.
Posted by: farm ecologist | Apr 27 2023 22:39 utc | 114 Dr. Hudson has written a critique of Janet Yellen’s 20 April speech at Johns Hopkins University that he describes as a Declaration of Economic War against China. I commented in similar manner here and at Simplicius’s blog on her speech, and I’ve posted Hudson’s 6-page paper here. The main comment I made was in relation to China’s offer to be a negotiating medium to bail the Outlaw US Empire out of its losing war in Ukraine and the degree of urgency that the Chinese envoy will apply to the project given the Empire’s escalating belligerency. IMO, this Declaration goes beyond Trump’s initial Trade War and will generate bigtime blowback for the West–if Europe joins, they’re utter fools. noteworthy text by Taibbi on the Censorship-Industrial Complex (as usual with him a longer entry 😉 Posted by: AG | Apr 27 2023 23:08 utc | 116 Jonathan Cook has written the best article that I’ve seen on Tucker Carlson’s sacking. Posted by: bevin | Apr 27 2023 23:09 utc | 117 Iran claims it can identify the “electronic fingerprints” of individual emitters, such as those on different jets of the same type, “Iran Can Now Track Unique Radar Signature of Individual F-35 Jets”. As you read the article, it becomes clear that Iran’s capabilities are even more advanced and pose an the following hypothesis: It’s unlikely that electronic emissions are contained within the body of a submarine, but how rapidly do they disperse within water? Do they last long or travel far enough to be detected in manners similar to acoustic detection? If Iran has figured out how to detect such emissions, that would explain its recently claimed ability to force a sub to the surface. Perhaps that’s how China found the sub that was claimed to have hit a seamount. I can easily imagine EW specialists from Russia, China, and Iran all working together to develop new means of detection and interdiction. IMO, not including Iran in the China/Russia defense matrix is a mistake. The young imam.of my mosque completely pissed me off shortly after Ramadhan was finished by insinuating that their community spying on me as an English convert was doing a good job of keeping me under control. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 28 2023 0:12 utc | 119 He certainly has courage. I would like to see him succeed. I wonder how much the Kennedy name weighs on him. I haven’t been following the open thread so not sure if this has already been linked Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 28 2023 1:28 utc | 121 Scorpion @ 120 Posted by: dh | Apr 28 2023 1:31 utc | 122 On the current political discourse, this article on Tucker Carlson is interesting and prompted me to look into the speech he gave at the Heritage Foundation last week. Here’s how Bridge described it:
There are many barflies who will agree with some of what Carlson had to say. Yes, there’s a lot of “folksy” filler between his main points, but IMO one our big problems is not listening to civil discussion coming from what’s deemed “the political enemy,” although IMO Carlson is one of the rare ones who attracts fire from both sides. So, if you haven’t already scrolled onward, read Bridge first and if you’re still curious read Carlson. Montenegro? The recent election led to the ejection of one of NATO’s friends-sand pensioers- in the Balkans. Posted by: bevin | Apr 28 2023 1:48 utc | 124 World peace is now possible thanks to Saudi Arabia ending petro dollar supremacy. A bankrupt US won’t be able to print fiat to fund endless wars. Zelenky sees the handwriting on the wall, will jump abord the BRICS prosperity train and sign a Chinese brokered peace deal. Post industrial auto manufacturing hub, Detoit’s staggering abandoned house footage https://youtu.be/uMV8-DPSs-8 Posted by: Willow | Apr 28 2023 2:03 utc | 125 Also at Sidebar-the New Left Review’s blog- is Capital’s Militant a study of Peter Thiel. Posted by: bevin | Apr 28 2023 2:12 utc | 126 Scorpion @ 120 As some of you noticed, the most important event of this week is 75th anniversary of Independence of Israel, at least, judging on Tweets not from my “follows” that omniscient AI of Twitter placed in my feed. I am proud to contribute to the celebrations, if modestly, in a “reply”. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 28 2023 2:23 utc | 128 Meanwhile, back in Donaldlandia, some information comes out about the Lago Doc Raid:
Scorpion @127 Posted by: dh | Apr 28 2023 3:25 utc | 130 rfk the least evil
Well Bannon is the prime force in the rfk election campaign.
I can see where that one come from and had stopped arguing any more.
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Caitlin on election
Posted by: denk | Apr 28 2023 3:34 utc | 131 John F’s rationale of supporting India in the 1962 War (money AND weaponry) can have one and only one interpretation: Racial hatred against the Yellow Peril.
the gringo offered to help their Indian soul mates detonate its first bomb before China,. Posted by: denk | Apr 28 2023 4:01 utc | 132 Reuters has a posting up with the title Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 28 2023 4:20 utc | 133 “There are many barflies who will agree with some of what Carlson had to say. Yes, there’s a lot of “folksy” filler between his main points, but IMO one our big problems is not listening to civil discussion coming from what’s deemed “the political enemy,…” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 28 2023 4:45 utc | 134 one more thing to add to my @134 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 28 2023 4:49 utc | 135 In case this hasn’t been posted… Posted by: Seer | Apr 28 2023 4:50 utc | 136 at post 2134 leads to a line of thinking – corporate media which is heavily politicized – owned by deep state, needs to be reigned in. perhaps enact laws banning corporate media from having a political opinion. allow blogs/alt media/small media free reign. Most now get their news from the internet. Enact laws that require search engines to come up with closest match. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 28 2023 5:16 utc | 137 @ Seer | Apr 28 2023 4:50 utc | 136 with the link to the RFK Jr interview Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 28 2023 5:25 utc | 138 transhumanism Posted by: Dingo | Apr 28 2023 5:53 utc | 139 @ Scorpion 127 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 28 2023 5:54 utc | 140 @denk, #131:
Thanks for the advise denk :-), but with all due respect, I’m an American citizen and when I vote in an American presidential ballot, whether a candidate is friendly or adversarial to China is not a priority of my concerns. It’s taxes, taxes, taxes, and rules, rules, rules, issue concerning my personal livelihood and well being. I said I’ll vote for rfk.jr only on the basis of relative lesser-evil characteristics among all those who have declared or indicated their candidacies. I consider him right when he said he runs so as to remove Biden from office, that’s an important point coming from someone within Biden’s own party. Biden has been absolutely terrible in office by whatever measure one uses to gauge leadership quality. Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 28 2023 6:01 utc | 141 Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 28 2023 6:01 utc | 141 Posted by: denk | Apr 28 2023 6:29 utc | 142 @ denk and Oriental Voice 141 142 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 28 2023 8:33 utc | 143 Let’s hope you don’t get let down. Chinese People’s Navy arrived at Port Sudan to evacuate Chinese citizens frm Sudan. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 28 2023 9:24 utc | 145 denk | Apr 28 2023 6:29 utc | 142 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 28 2023 9:41 utc | 146 This is a very interesting post. But for more information, go to https://manas.news/. Posted by: manas.news | Apr 28 2023 10:46 utc | 147 Canada’s PM Trudeau, Council of Foreign Relations, blood-sucking insects… FYI Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 28 2023 12:37 utc | 148 Scorpion @144 You obviously have more faith in humanity than me. Maybe you had a happy childhood. I didn’t. But I have been lucky. My ‘better angels’ are my kids and wonderful grand-children. Enough said. Posted by: dh | Apr 28 2023 13:11 utc | 149 “…RFK is cut from very different cloth. Although born and raised in the public eye, he has gone under the radar for decades. He has a speech impediment making him a type of XXXXXXX…” Posted by: juliania | Apr 28 2023 13:32 utc | 150 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 28 2023 9:41 utc | 146 Posted by: denk | Apr 28 2023 13:45 utc | 151 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 28 2023 8:33 utc | 143
Really ?
Wuflu..
Forgot your med eh ?
nor Africans,
Nor Afghan
Nor iranians
You must be a gardenist, always at odds with the world, er, the jungle
earth to mug Posted by: denk | Apr 28 2023 14:07 utc | 152 This is interesting. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2023 14:08 utc | 153 Some interesting sleuthing about the shipping traffic near the NordStream sabotage: Posted by: GT Stroller | Apr 28 2023 14:19 utc | 154 From the long RFK interview in Tablet:
This sounds entirely feasible to me. Some people like to argue: ‘The US did it!’ or ‘No, the Chinese did it!’ and so on. In fact, neither country is the monolith language structures easily make them sound. There are wheels within wheels. In the corporate industrial world many nation state borders only exist because they require different filing procedures. Apart from that they are irrelevant. They owe no allegiance to nation states or their populations. 60% of Chinese exports are produced by companies partially or mainly owned by Western investors. Tariff arrangements favor Chinese over domestic manufacturers in order to maximize profits and market share for the large multinationals comfortable with manufacturing in many different countries driving the domestic-only players – who used to be the majority in all countries – into the past and out of the future. I doubt these are either ‘American’ or ‘Chinese’ policies, rather Big Business driven. Breaking news. US is going to force euro vassals to use US dollar in energy related transactions. That most likely means the bells tolling for the euro area, rising inflation and austerity in the euro zone countries. Basically total vassalage and servitude, and now even financial and economic control of the EU by US. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 28 2023 15:02 utc | 156 unimperator | Apr 28 2023 15:02 utc | 156– Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 28 2023 14:52 utc | 155
Those vid are definitey the handwork of CIA/MI6/ASIO, TO spook a flight of investments outta China, after Trump’s trade war failed to crush Chinese supply chain network.
‘seems obvious’ ! Posted by: denk | Apr 28 2023 15:55 utc | 158 Yesterday there was speculation on Putin visiting some industrial park and that he might be targeted via drone, but nobody knew where. Putin did indeed visit an industrial park outside Moscow and one of its products are drones. There are four events that are important for Russia followers: Meeting on the development of unmanned aircraft; Visit to the industrial park “Rudnevo”, “Vladimir Putin visited the new Rudnevo industrial park, which is part of the special economic Technopolis Moscow zone.” Be sure to look at the photos as there’s a model of the entire park shown and it’s very impressive. Presentation of organizations in the field of unmanned aircraft systems, “Vladimir Putin met with representatives of organizations on the territory of the Rudnevo Industrial Park in the field of unmanned aircraft systems.” Meeting with President of the Russian Association of Fertilizer Producers Andrey Guryev, lots of data and info presented about this critical industry. All of these are in Russian. The other event from yesterday was the fuel loading of the Akkuyu NPP in Turkey that consists of a plethora of speeches. Today is the Day of Russian Parliamentarism and Putin addressed the meeting with members of the Council of Legislators at the Federal Assembly. As you begin reading, Putin mentions some of the history of the Russian Legislature and the rationale it set for itself. Do take note of its socialistic nature which is present in today’s Russia as Putin makes clear.
scorpion the troll has got some cheek… Posted by: denk | Apr 28 2023 16:41 utc | 161 Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 28 2023 16:14 utc | 160 Posted by: Paco | Apr 28 2023 16:49 utc | 162 And the beat goes on. About the World Online Conference on Multipolarity:
The event begins at 7am Moscow time. There’s no info about it being broadcast in non-Russian languages. The agenda of presentations is impressive. I do suggest bookmarking the host website as it’s another good source. Here the troll quoting Breitbart [one of his goto source] on the HU JIng Tao ‘purge’
Hey is that you, Dean Rusk ? Posted by: denk | Apr 28 2023 16:55 utc | 164 Paco @162– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 28 2023 16:50 utc | 163 Posted by: Paco | Apr 28 2023 17:26 utc | 166
Still not convinced it’s all that binary (East vs West etc.) but whatever. In any case, Fred always has an interesting take, and often with good facts.
And of course there is more… It’s not just China: Russia is hosting 4 way talks between Turkey, Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia to normalize relations between the four countries. Posted by: Matthew | Apr 28 2023 18:57 utc | 168 the weekly train derailments Posted by: Dingo | Apr 28 2023 19:11 utc | 169 @karlof1 | Apr 26 2023 18:51 utc | 22 Posted by: Hermit | Apr 28 2023 20:54 utc | 170 @Bemildred | Apr 27 2023 16:53 utc | 94 Posted by: Hermit | Apr 28 2023 21:04 utc | 171 @karlof1 | Apr 28 2023 16:59 utc | 165 Posted by: Hermit | Apr 28 2023 21:11 utc | 172 @28-20 & 114 & 145 Posted by: Isego K. | Apr 28 2023 21:15 utc | 173 Posted by: Hermit | Apr 28 2023 20:54 utc | 170 Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 28 2023 21:16 utc | 174 @malenkov | Apr 27 2023 18:18 utc | 102 Posted by: Hermit | Apr 28 2023 21:27 utc | 175 The crackpot who drew the map breaking Russia up into 40+ statelets has plans for Iran too: Posted by: GT Stroller | Apr 28 2023 21:31 utc | 176 @Giyane | Apr 28 2023 5:54 utc | 140 Posted by: Hermit | Apr 28 2023 21:53 utc | 177 the overconfident, slick people Posted by: Dingo | Apr 28 2023 22:00 utc | 178 @Bemildred | Apr 27 2023 16:53 utc | 94 Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 28 2023 22:20 utc | 179
Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 28 2023 22:26 utc | 180 # 180 Posted by: Dingo | Apr 28 2023 23:03 utc | 181 @karlof1 | Apr 26 2023 16:15 utc | 6 Posted by: Hermit | Apr 28 2023 23:13 utc | 182 Posted by: Dingo | Apr 28 2023 23:03 utc | 181 Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 28 2023 23:18 utc | 183 Hermit | Apr 28 2023 23:13 utc | 182–
That part of the discussion begins about halfway through. Hudson also remarks about the dollar becoming hegemonic after WW1 in most of his books and in many essays. people give away their will, freedom, control Posted by: Dingo | Apr 29 2023 0:10 utc | 185 The censorship of RFKjr by Outlaw US Empire’s BigLie Media has begun RT reports: “ABC News censors presidential candidate’s vaccine comments.” Posted by: Dingo | Apr 28 2023 23:03 utc | 181 Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 29 2023 0:14 utc | 187 Bemildred: Not only are the criminal conspiracies commonly referred to as “political parties” not taxed, but their intraparty elections, the results of which they are under no legal obligation to honor, are conducted at public expense. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 29 2023 0:15 utc | 188 It floors me that this is even legal. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 29 2023 0:31 utc | 189 Bemildred | Apr 29 2023 0:31 utc | 189– # 187 Posted by: Dingo | Apr 29 2023 0:55 utc | 191 Thierry Meysann’s Voltaire net is now producing a weekly newsletter in six European languages. The first issue is free, ten PDF pages. Posted by: bevin | Apr 29 2023 1:33 utc | 192 @karlof1 | Apr 28 2023 23:56 utc | 184 Posted by: Hermit | Apr 29 2023 2:31 utc | 193 It’s amazing what you can find using public domain data. The OECD has excess mortality data for all the OECD countries. You can download parts into Excel spreadsheets and play with it. Posted by: Bruce O'Hara | Apr 29 2023 2:47 utc | 194 That was Nader’s #1 point in 1996 & 2000 along with Civic Literacy. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 29 2023 2:48 utc | 195 @ Bemildred | Apr 29 2023 2:48 utc | 195 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2023 3:46 utc | 196 As clever beasts in the US, we created the Fairness Doctrine that was in place from 1949 until 1986……points being: we have been there before, we can be there again, we need to have the public good being the goal instead of private profit/control and maintain vigilance. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 29 2023 4:34 utc | 197 Competition: an event in which there are more losers than winners. Otherwise, it is not a competition. A society based on competition is therefore primarily a society of losers. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 29 2023 4:41 utc | 198 Its all about optics and so they kept First Republic Bank alive until the weekend Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2023 4:56 utc | 199 Just to let you know that corruption in the US is fairly evenly spread there is this posting title Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2023 5:08 utc | 200 |
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