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April 26, 2023
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That didnt last long. Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 26 2023 14:39 utc | 1 MoA: “Biden Prepares To Give Up On Ukraine”. Posted by: maskazer | Apr 26 2023 15:13 utc | 2 “For the preservation of peace, freedom and prosperity, one thing is needed: liberation of Europe from the USA, Werner Rügemer writes.” Posted by: bevin | Apr 26 2023 15:22 utc | 3 I’m wondering how long it will take for a Republican government in the US to ban the book 1984. I read that book in 9th grade English class. Loved it at the time. But here’s a partial list of its sins: Posted by: fnord | Apr 26 2023 15:26 utc | 4 Just saw a video clip about US-designated President for Venezuela Joan Guaido, arriving at a US airport. Like a fugitive he walked alone, nobody there to welcome him on US soil. Posted by: maskazer | Apr 26 2023 16:10 utc | 5 I’ve completed the process of reading, translating and posting Lavrov’s post-UNSC Meeting Presser transcript, which can be read here or in Russian here. Russia’s MFA does have an English version, but it’s not complete yet. I made some general remarks and a specific response to the citation I posted last night from Sputnik since it didn’t quite get it correct. Lavrov’s discussion about the current state of dedollarization was informative and from my POV promising. The presser was about an hour long, and it took me about that amount of time to digest the transcript. There were a few revelations for me, and many for those at the presser. Yes, “President Guaido” is now a lonely figure. He could perhaps seek asylum in Canada, as officials connected to the Deputy PM were instrumental in concocting the lawfare argument articulated by the Lima Group which elevated Guaido in the first place, claiming the election of a Constituent Assembly “de-legitimized” the sitting government. Posted by: jayc | Apr 26 2023 16:22 utc | 7 @fnord Posted by: Fred777 | Apr 26 2023 16:26 utc | 8 @ Posted by: Fred777 | Apr 26 2023 16:26 utc | 8 Posted by: fnord | Apr 26 2023 16:34 utc | 9 @bevin #3 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 26 2023 17:06 utc | 10 where did all the pat lang fanboys go? Posted by: james | Apr 26 2023 17:11 utc | 11 “Tucker Carlson Could No Longer Be Tolerated by Corrupt US Media, Political Elite” isn’t the judgment of Sputnik but from the man it interviewed, Scott Bennett, a former US Army psychological warfare officer. What he has to say needs to be consumed by readers within the Outlaw US Empire, the emphasis is original:
And there’s more at the link. jayc@7 Posted by: bevin | Apr 26 2023 17:54 utc | 13 since RFKj has already made clear he plans to continue WW3 (“maintain territorial integrity of the Ukraine;” “UN peacekeepers in the East;” etc.) and like Trump, Bojo, etc., he just lies his ass off about covid and himself does the exact opposite of what he prescribes for others, Posted by: rjb1.5 | Apr 26 2023 17:54 utc | 14 RIP Tucker. you always were and always will be safe hands for the ruling class. Posted by: rjb1.5 | Apr 26 2023 18:00 utc | 15 It is immediately clear that RFK Jr. is fatally flawed in a number of ways. The mere fact he is trying to run as a democrat should immediately be a big red flag to anyone with eyes to see. For all his many good traits and while not an outright fraud like Bernie Sanders or AOC, he is a lame horse…. Posted by: JustAMaverick | Apr 26 2023 18:03 utc | 16 UK’s broken-down £3bn warship HMS Prince of Wales stripped for parts Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 26 2023 18:22 utc | 17 I see we already have people misrepresenting RFKjr’s positions. Here’s RFKjr’s position as stated at his campaign website: rjb1.5: did RFK Jr. really say “the Ukraine”? Maybe that’s a signal, a wink, a message in a bottle as it were, and there’s hope yet for him. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 26 2023 18:28 utc | 19 Posted by: bevin | Apr 26 2023 15:22 utc | 3 Posted by: v | Apr 26 2023 18:31 utc | 20 karlof1: That’s standard campaign wishy-washy, and to the extent that it corresponds to what the candidate himself would say, it’s standard speech out of both sides of the mouth. Or, as I put it a few days ago, there are two RFK Jrs, and one of them is lying. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 26 2023 18:33 utc | 21 malenkov @21– https://www.newsweek.com/russia-economy-unemployment-jobs-putin-shortage-1796602 Posted by: Dany | Apr 26 2023 18:51 utc | 23 karlof1: Posted by: malenkov | Apr 26 2023 18:59 utc | 24 —and building on the previous: wrt rjb1.5’s question about RFK Jr’s position on Israel, well, it would be remarkable if he weren’t the only currently active Dim Party politician, including Omar and Tlaib, whose position isn’t—channeling Stokely Carmichael!—prone. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 26 2023 19:04 utc | 25 Goshdarn it, too many negatives and not enough text editor: Posted by: malenkov | Apr 26 2023 19:10 utc | 26 Sinophobic propaganda is growing in Russian media. Posted by: Rita | Apr 26 2023 19:11 utc | 27
Posted by: Raaalph | Apr 26 2023 19:14 utc | 28 The Wall Street Journal, owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns FOX News, had a lackey of Murdoch’s there post an obvious hit piece of Carlson, and they’re so eager to have it read that I didn’t find it to be behind a paywall. Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 26 2023 20:13 utc | 31 #15 Posted by: Dingo | Apr 26 2023 20:32 utc | 32 @ 22 karlof1 Posted by: james | Apr 26 2023 20:35 utc | 33 On Words and Deeds: Biden and the DNC/D-party have a long record of deeds that are Anti-Human and totalitarian. Here’s a link to the incomplete list of RFKjr’s deeds, About RFKjr. From that narrative, one ought to conclude the RFKjr is Pro-Human and a small d democrat whose record shows he’s unafraid to take on centers of power, which would be anti-totalitarian. Poor hapless China just didnt know what was going on under its nose. So innocent and naive they are. Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 26 2023 22:08 utc | 35 An interesting new bit up at Covert Action Magazine today. Compares the Watergate scandal that brought down Richard Millhouse Nixon to Russia/Ukrainegate as they pertain to Trump.
Which, to me doesn’t necessarily signal Trump’s true philosophy on foreign policy as much as it signals his ability to “read the room” (aka a “Duh!” statement at this point), but it’s still saying the right thing.
I don’t think the (actual) American left is strong and united enough to mobilize sufficiently, but perhaps it’s time to become incrementalists? Meanwhile the Democrats and the Lepht will continue to pander to identity politics and use the levers of government to suppress any real competition or countervailing narratives while they drive us to the next Reagan and possibly WWIII. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 26 2023 22:11 utc | 36 james@33 Posted by: bevin | Apr 26 2023 22:38 utc | 37 This business of RFK Jr. Posted by: Grieved | Apr 26 2023 23:45 utc | 38 @ karlof1 | Apr 26 2023 18:24 utc | 18 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 26 2023 23:55 utc | 39 Looks like Russia is moving to ‘get its money back’. Posted by: powerandpeople | Apr 27 2023 0:08 utc | 40 @ Grieved | Apr 26 2023 23:45 utc | 38 with more good words about RFK Jr Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 27 2023 0:17 utc | 41 Don Bacon- Posted by: Robert Hope | Apr 27 2023 0:19 utc | 42 So RFK is siding with brave Ukrainians and expects Russia to pull out of Ukraine and guarantee its right house NATO military forces. . . .Unacceptable. Posted by: dh | Apr 27 2023 0:28 utc | 43 bevin @37 & Grieved @38– Don Bacon | Apr 26 2023 23:55 utc | 39– Again, here’s the controversial paragraph. I’ve bolded the evidence that RFKjr didn’t write it: karlof1 @ 0:31 utc: Posted by: malenkov | Apr 27 2023 0:46 utc | 47 @PeterAu…a follow on from a comment of yours a thread or two (or three) back…
PLC @Humble_Analysis Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 27 2023 0:46 utc | 48 As I’ve had to explain to too many, RFKjr didn’t write that bunch of hoohaw–a staffer did as the prose makes clear. Posted by: dh | Apr 27 2023 0:51 utc | 49 Underneath it all, will be the man who knew it would be this way, and came on anyway. Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 27 2023 0:58 utc | 50 Melaleuca | Apr 27 2023 0:58 utc | 50 Posted by: dh | Apr 27 2023 1:10 utc | 51 More metaphor! What a treat today is! Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 27 2023 1:12 utc | 52 Landmark agreement with S.Korea re. nuclear weapons. A little ambiguous but I’m sure China will get the message. Posted by: dh | Apr 27 2023 1:17 utc | 53 dh | Apr 27 2023 1:10 utc | 49 & 51– Melaleuca | Apr 27 2023 0:58 utc | 50 – “And it is ironic to me that a man attempting to speak truth so loudly in the U$ and across the world, is afflicted with a voice handicap….” Posted by: Grieved | Apr 27 2023 1:40 utc | 55 karlof1 | Apr 27 2023 1:30 utc | 54 Posted by: dh | Apr 27 2023 1:44 utc | 56 guild of actuarians called for an investigation . they had 17% but this article says 15% (1-2% is normal yearly number) your data is 13%. so i guess its take the number you like the most. Posted by: hankster | Apr 27 2023 1:57 utc | 57 Tucker Carlson has broken his silence, “Carlson in First Post-Fox Commentary Claims Those in Power ‘Resort to Force’ to Kill Debate”, with the lead paragraph saying: UK’s broken-down £3bn warship HMS Prince of Wales stripped for parts Posted by: PalmaSailor | Apr 27 2023 2:21 utc | 59 Re. Tucker C Posted by: farm ecologist | Apr 27 2023 2:43 utc | 60 RFKjr will be better understood when he is able to communicate (without weasel words) on these immediate issues: Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 27 2023 3:09 utc | 61 Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 26 2023 22:08 utc | 35 Posted by: denk | Apr 27 2023 3:10 utc | 62 Thanks for the Lavrov translation karlof1, much appreciated. Posted by: annie | Apr 27 2023 3:18 utc | 63 RFK JR just totally seriously pissed off his base with his most recent tweet wherein he said: We need to avoid the toxic guagmire of retribution and blame for the covid lock downs and mandates and focus on cleaning up the regulatory agencies. Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Apr 27 2023 3:45 utc | 64 RFK on Ukraine
Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 27 2023 4:08 utc | 65 karlof1@28….’brutal invasion by Russia’, that’s f’n disingenuous on his part. Whats his position on the 14k+ Ukrainians killed by…….hmmm, thought so. The guys a dick playing to the crowd, wait, that seems to be a faux politician thing these days, anyway, even Trump is still calling it like it is….a fuck up of ginormous proportions. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 27 2023 4:14 utc | 66 Don Bacon #65 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 27 2023 4:39 utc | 67 @uncle tungsten | Apr 27 2023 4:39 utc | 67 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 27 2023 4:44 utc | 68 In the face of a charismatic politician backed by a myth surrender all your powers of critical thinking. Jump up and down like a fanboy. Who needs a track record of decades of clear thinking when we have a Leader to follow? Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 27 2023 5:10 utc | 69 #66 Posted by: Dingo | Apr 27 2023 5:31 utc | 70 China explores peace in Novorossiya
I bet Zelensky did not intend that to mean NATO borders. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 27 2023 5:36 utc | 71 John Helmer is sowing the seed of hope.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 27 2023 5:39 utc | 72 With the recent talk between Xi and Z, the only party not willing to come to the negotiation table is empire. Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 27 2023 5:42 utc | 73 Gosh humans born after 1965 could be forgiven for imagining that between 1961 and late 1963 amerika had put the kybosh on imperialism. That no one in Latin America, Asia, the ME or Africa was slaughtered to favour the interests of amerika, but sadly that is simply not correct. Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 27 2023 9:08 utc | 74 james | Apr 26 2023 20:35 utc | 33 Posted by: grunzt | Apr 27 2023 10:13 utc | 75 So, are we going to have another election between the the love child of Foghorn Leghorn and Yosemite Sam, and the love child of Elmer Fudd and Mr Magoo? Look, squirrel! At this point, does it matter who steers the ship onto the rocks? Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 27 2023 10:23 utc | 76 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 26 2023 18:22 utc | 17
While on the other side of the world, Japans nominal GDP per capita is now far behind Singapore and HK, and a hairs breadth ahead of S Korea and Taiwan Posted by: littlereddot | Apr 27 2023 12:02 utc | 77 Stupid, stupid woman: Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 27 2023 12:56 utc | 78 @ 37 bevin, Posted by: james | Apr 27 2023 13:26 utc | 79 matt taibbi has a good article up from the past couple of days on the cic – censorship intelligence complex, under racket news…. others might wish to follow it and seek it out.. Posted by: james | Apr 27 2023 13:29 utc | 80 Andrew Korybko pens an insightful article at The Automatic Earth on Unipolar Liberal-Globalism vs. Multipolar Conservative-Sovereigntism. He deftly deconstructs the Orwellian redefinitions of “left” and “right” by neoliberalcons, which has caused such widespread befuddlement.
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2023/04/no-conspiracy-left-right-working-together/ Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 27 2023 14:06 utc | 81 These will make it clear as to whether he is absolutely sincere or just another wannabe. Right now he is clearly intending to be endorsed by a party that is one of the enemies of the people. While his words might be alluring, they will need to be precise. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 27 2023 14:51 utc | 82 That’s standard campaign wishy-washy, and to the extent that it corresponds to what the candidate himself would say, it’s standard speech out of both sides of the mouth. [RFK on Ukraine] Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 27 2023 14:52 utc | 83 European Commission president for comments saying Israel makes ‘the desert bloom’ when marking its 75th ‘independence’ day. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 27 2023 15:03 utc | 84 German president Steinmeier in Canada’s NWT … a nice change (in my completely unbiased opinion) from state receptions, business luncheons, university q&a’s. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 27 2023 15:15 utc | 85 Posted by: Grieved | Apr 27 2023 1:40 utc | 55 Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Apr 27 2023 15:16 utc | 86 @85 Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 27 2023 15:18 utc | 87 @Bruised Northerner | Apr 27 2023 15:15 utc | 85 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 27 2023 15:58 utc | 88 Bemildred | Apr 27 2023 14:51 utc | 82– Okay, who do you suggest? Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 27 2023 16:26 utc | 90 @karlof1: and I do agree with Grieved & others that he shows real courage here. And he has rare assets politically. Credit where it is due. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 27 2023 16:34 utc | 91 Bemildred | Apr 27 2023 16:26 utc | 90– Posted by: Karl Sanchez | Apr 27 2023 16:38 utc | 92 Hmm… 92 is mine. Thanks for your reply. As I point out, the issue isn’t with who we might pick as a candidate but the stranglehold the Duopoly has on the POTUS election machinery. Ralph Nader was an excellent choice for a candidate, but he was effectively locked-out of having an equal opportunity to win. I’ve voted Third Party since 1992 because they offered better choices. Perhaps the complete ruination of the nation will be required to rebuild it anew, although that will create strife for our progeny. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 27 2023 16:53 utc | 94 I am confused. Two titles in YouTube Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 27 2023 17:07 utc | 95 Type: “soME watch about USD remaining “the king”. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 27 2023 17:08 utc | 96 “This is why we have a Donor Oligarchy in America” … Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 27 2023 17:20 utc | 97 Piotr Berman no. 84 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 27 2023 17:29 utc | 98 For a little entertainment, you can watch the South Korean president sing “American Pie”. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 27 2023 17:35 utc | 99 Hello Deb Posted by: denk | Apr 27 2023 17:36 utc | 100 |
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