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April 12, 2023
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A question about practical matters. Posted by: Passerby | Apr 12 2023 16:30 utc | 1 Passerby @ 1 Posted by: dh | Apr 12 2023 16:45 utc | 3 For many years we have been warned about the impending introduction of digital currency by world governments to further control the masses. Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Apr 12 2023 16:53 utc | 4 Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Apr 12 2023 16:53 utc | 4 Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 12 2023 17:05 utc | 5 coping mechanisms people use to deal with living in a failing society Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 12 2023 17:22 utc | 6 Posted by: Passerby | Apr 12 2023 16:30 utc | 1 Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 12 2023 17:32 utc | 7 Jonathan W@2….. Pfizer lost their court case in the UK. They failed to provide the truth as what the ‘side affects’ might be from taking their experimental mRNA vaccine therapy. Not sure if Pfizer has UK government immunity, if not, maybe class action and individual law suits will follow. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 12 2023 17:37 utc | 8 When visiting Russia in the early ’90s it seemed to me that people survived by depending on their social network, gardening at their dachas, and creatively using the resources available to them – whatever they happened to be. Of course some turned to crime and corruption as well while others quickly became entrepreneurs. ‘Russian solution’ was distilled by a variety of methods using a variety of ingredients. Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 12 2023 17:39 utc | 9 Faithful to himself. Posted by: la bouteille | Apr 12 2023 17:53 utc | 10 @lex talionis | Apr 12 2023 17:32 utc | 7
and Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2023 18:10 utc | 11 la bouteille @ 10
Well, Xi accuses Emmanuel Macron of «kissing the ass» of the US President. The gay guys would call Macron, Lucky Pierre! Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 12 2023 18:12 utc | 12 Thank you Aleph_Null. Posted by: Woke American | Apr 12 2023 18:17 utc | 13 @ Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 12 2023 17:05 utc | 5 Posted by: Cabe | Apr 12 2023 18:20 utc | 14 coping mechanisms people use to deal with living in a failing society Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 12 2023 18:25 utc | 15 What are the coping mechanisms people use to deal with living in a failing society Posted by: Exile | Apr 12 2023 18:30 utc | 16 I would say we’re living in the Biblical End Times. They’re soon going to take out cash, and microchip everyone (mark of the beast). If you’ve read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the “Rothschild class” is going to usher in a false messiah, which is also told in the Bible. And that false messiah will tell people to take the mark. They’re also working on getting WW3 going, so that they can get a one world government, and also a one world currency probably from combining all the upcoming CBDC’s. As a believer in God and the Bible I just hope we won’t get BOTH WW3 and Armageddon. Hopefully it doesn’t work out that way. Either way I believe that Jesus is coming back soon. I actually do have a bit of insider knowledge on this matter but you would call me crazy if I told you all I know so I’ll leave that out. Also, for all you Americans, there’s a good likelihood that something bad (like it’s not bad enough already) might be coming your way. Read Revelation 17, it might very well be talking about the U.S. Posted by: just somebody | Apr 12 2023 18:33 utc | 17 @ Passerby | Apr 12 2023 16:30 utc | 1 Posted by: Boris Badenov | Apr 12 2023 18:38 utc | 18 BAR calls out AOC for being a hypocrite, war monger, military recruiter for cannon fodder.
The article continues at length. Ouch. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 18:39 utc | 19 sean the leprechaun | Apr 12 2023 17:37 utc | 8 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2023 18:39 utc | 20 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 12 2023 17:22 utc | 6 Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Apr 12 2023 18:45 utc | 21 Agree with all who point to the hazards of a CBDC. Here is their motive, from the horse’s mouth…. Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 12 2023 18:46 utc | 22 @ Aleph_Null | Apr 12 2023 17:22 utc | 6 & @ lex talionis | Apr 12 2023 17:32 utc | 7 Posted by: Cabe | Apr 12 2023 18:47 utc | 23 There’s a fair number of folks who cope by learning the intricacies of the spiritual side, https://folkpotpourri.com/thoughts-on-creation-on-a-beautiful-spring-morning/. If you haven’t tried talking to God about it, then it won’t do you any good to complain, and trying to contend that you don’t believe in Him doesn’t work very well either. He can make things right. Take a stroll outside with Him and talk – and listen – to Him. Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 12 2023 18:49 utc | 24 Tom_Q_Collins @ 19
The Gravy Train pulled up to the station, starry-eyed AOC with her cardboard suitcase filled with dreams and ambition climbed aboard, the whistle sounded, and she waved the small town suckers goodbye never to return to Palookaville. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 12 2023 18:52 utc | 25 Cabe | Apr 12 2023 18:20 utc | 14 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 12 2023 17:22 utc | 6 in response to Passerby | Apr 12 2023 16:30 utc | 1 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 19:08 utc | 27 Passerby | Apr 12 2023 16:30 utc | 1 “What are the coping mechanisms people use to deal with living in a failing society and how can this be applied to life in North America and Europe today?” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2023 19:12 utc | 28 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 12 2023 18:52 utc | 25 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 19:16 utc | 29 That term ‘toughen up precious petal’ perhaps needs to be kept in mind for what is coming. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 19:20 utc | 30 I posted this on the wrong thread, so this is a repeat of my Stonebird | Apr 12 2023 19:22 utc | 292 (Ukraine only) So the main thing has to be to rely on community, and that is what is most destroyed and thus lacking in the whole postmodern American scene. We have our religious community, and that is vitally important for support and help. Never mind what Hermit has said here to ridicule religious beliefs; for the most part, the specifics of those do not even matter. What counts is the existence of community, and hopefully eventually extended family ties, though those have also been thoroughly trashed in late capitalist America. Tom_Q_Collins @ 29
The human race would have been extinct long, long ago if it was made up of only cowards and frauds. Those that choose to be cowards and frauds live their lives in insult to all the courageous and righteous people that sacrificed all or a part of themselves to sustain us across at least a million and half years. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 12 2023 19:42 utc | 33 @ Passerby | Apr 12 2023 16:30 utc | 1 & Aleph_Null | Apr 12 2023 17:22 utc | 6 Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 12 2023 19:46 utc | 34 Stonebird @ 31
Sharp insight. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 12 2023 19:48 utc | 35 @Norwegian | Apr 12 2023 18:10 utc | 11 Posted by: Ново З | Apr 12 2023 19:55 utc | 36 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 12 2023 19:42 utc | 33 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 20:01 utc | 37 Stonebird | Apr 12 2023 19:37 utc | 31 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2023 20:04 utc | 38 Much love to the MoA community! Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 12 2023 20:10 utc | 39 You could do worse than Moo’s (BBQ) and Girl (Natasha)… Posted by: Boris Badenov | Apr 12 2023 20:19 utc | 40 To the depressed elders, please don’t avoid young people. Yes they are infuriating, maybe already half-broken by their teen years, but that is because there are no good examples. Posted by: Rae | Apr 12 2023 20:20 utc | 41 Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 19:20 utc | 30 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2023 20:29 utc | 42 Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2023 20:04 utc | 38 Rae | Apr 12 2023 20:20 utc | 41 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2023 20:48 utc | 45 News from India [50 mins] v. useful current affairs show … India and global focus Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2023 20:57 utc | 46 Aleph_Null @ 6 Posted by: circumspect | Apr 12 2023 21:17 utc | 47 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 12 2023 17:37 utc | 8 Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 12 2023 21:45 utc | 48 So the main thing has to be to rely on community, and that is what is most destroyed and thus lacking in the whole postmodern American scene.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 12 2023 21:47 utc | 49 I dug a hole 42 foot deep one time.first twenty foot with a crowbar the I got a bit smarter and thought fuck this is hard work so bought a jackhammer. I guess if I kept digging I could have emigrated to China. That was digging for opal when I wasn’t flying. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2023 21:52 utc | 50 Ahh bloody hell. That last one was to Stonebird and I didn’t put his username name/comment at the top. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2023 22:01 utc | 51 To cope with the failing nation I live in (the USA) I try many times to think of others. This seems one of the hardest things to do. When I worry about others, I don’t have space to worry about myself. And in fact there are plenty of others that I know or can imagine who are in a vastly more precarious situation than my own. Posted by: Grieved | Apr 12 2023 22:03 utc | 52 One other thing I do to cope with all the dark analysis I study is to divide everything by 4. Posted by: Grieved | Apr 12 2023 22:15 utc | 53 So, in other words, perhaps all hope is lost, and perhaps there is still hope. One can choose whether to be among the hopeless or the hopeful. But not just as a style of being – if we want to have hope, we have to join in to help.
Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 12 2023 22:24 utc | 55 Posted by: circumspect | Apr 12 2023 21:17 utc | 47 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 22:32 utc | 56 Grieved | Apr 12 2023 22:03 utc | 52 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2023 22:46 utc | 57 Maybe my scorn slipped and I’m being mean to a comment given naively at face value (such a comment could happen, despite being unlikely) but I’m mocking the Public Service Announcement of “you could end up in jail” and “this place could get shut down” in a place where everybody should (and likely do) know that there’s far worse on offer with hundreds of millions already dead and maimed during the last century including people dying and suffering right now. Even hellish US jails would be heaven in comparison for most of them. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 12 2023 23:14 utc | 58 Oops wrong thread (well, the right thread really, or maybe so, gah!), such is the peril of browser tabs. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 12 2023 23:23 utc | 59 @ Posted by: Passerby | Apr 12 2023 16:30 utc | 1 Posted by: Richard L | Apr 12 2023 23:52 utc | 60 Peter AU1, I am very much enjoying your posts, but I have to ask maybe its the words “pucker up precious petal” that are slipping into your psyche?… !هههههه Posted by: Ново З | Apr 13 2023 1:08 utc | 61 Speaking of the early European settlers in Canada which Richard L @ 60 referenced, I have to post this link to Canadian satire news outlet, The Beaverton, about the recent ice storm. (Extremely funny, IMHO) Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 13 2023 1:16 utc | 62 @Ozark Grandpa | Apr 12 2023 18:49 utc | 24 Posted by: Hermit | Apr 13 2023 1:31 utc | 63 @ Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 12 2023 23:14 utc | 58 I’m surprised how Russia’s not even in the top for protective cybersecurity technologies and nuclear energy… Posted by: La Cerise | Apr 13 2023 2:28 utc | 65 Read Revelation 17, it might very well be talking about the U.S. Posted by: Dystopian | Apr 13 2023 3:14 utc | 66 I was in need of sometime to see throughout the ridiculous argument used by Mehdi Hasan against Matt Taibbi. Posted by: Barnes | Apr 13 2023 3:15 utc | 67 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2023 22:32 utc | 56 Posted by: Duke | Apr 13 2023 3:29 utc | 68 ZH has a posting up wiht the tiele
They especially take on Charles Lister in the posting who is one of the more smarmy stink tank folks Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 13 2023 3:54 utc | 69 Some more music for you. Sorry b, I posted the last ones in the wrong thread. “Living in a Prayer”, Bon Jovi, “Quicksand Jesus”, Skid Row, and “All along the Watchtower”, Jimi Hendrix. Cheers. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 13 2023 4:15 utc | 70 Posted by: Duke | Apr 13 2023 3:29 utc | 68 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 13 2023 4:49 utc | 71 #69 Posted by: Dingo | Apr 13 2023 4:51 utc | 72 Ah Charles Lister, a real POS amongst all the other POS Middle East stink tankers. 2 others I immediately think of are Juan Cole and Aaron Lund. I must check out what Joshua Landis is writing these days. Posted by: Ново З | Apr 13 2023 4:53 utc | 73 Ah Charles Lister, a real POS amongst all the other POS Middle East stink tankers. 2 others I immediately think of are Juan Cole and Aaron Lund. I must check out what Joshua Landis is writing these days. Posted by: Ново З | Apr 13 2023 4:53 utc | 74 This isn’t VA stuff. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 13 2023 4:53 utc | 75 stonebird@31, agreed. i’ve been mulling this on global south.com. xi charmed the boy, & agreed the boy was an emissary from city. so what does it really mean? certainly the bri will include europe, inevitable, so is city cutting america adrift? things are moving @ such a clip as to be a blur yet we are witnessing israel challenging its leadership, america dazed & swallowing whatsoever is given it to swallow & europe on the brink of hardship it hasn’t endured since the end of city’s last great move. & south africa saying it may have to arrest putin on arrival! does city believe it might play go with xi? or putin? does city believe it has a chance…or simply its last chance? xi, putin & the RoH (rest of humanity) will play for time, time after all is theirs. fascinating. Posted by: emersonreturn | Apr 13 2023 5:26 utc | 76 Below is the title of a Xinhuanet posting and a Good Cop quote from it I like
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 13 2023 5:31 utc | 77 How does the posting title and quote below from Xinhuanet compare with Marcon’s visit?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 13 2023 5:35 utc | 78 “I’m concerned abt China. They build ports in Africa…” Posted by: Menz | Apr 13 2023 5:40 utc | 79 Xinhuanet also has a posting up about the current IMF meeting and the propaganda from that
No mention of debt jubilee here but lots of strong and meaningful words about fiscal responsibility/s Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 13 2023 5:41 utc | 80 IMF
https://www.ft.com/content/19add278-aa83-45f8-a84f-12750f32258f Posted by: too scents | Apr 13 2023 6:26 utc | 81 Grieved | Apr 12 2023 22:15 utc | 53 Posted by: Boris Badenov | Apr 13 2023 6:37 utc | 82 @Exile, #16:
C’mon, the society of the Waltons weren’t broken. Ours is. Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 13 2023 6:55 utc | 83 North Korea has just lauchened a strategic missile, sending south koria into panic. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 13 2023 7:21 utc | 84 Stonebird #31
Good question but I think Xi Jinping showed welcome to a nations leader that has some remnant capacity to think for themselves. Hence generous host to Macron. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 13 2023 8:04 utc | 85 Oriental voice @ 83 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 13 2023 8:06 utc | 86 Uncle tungsten @ 85 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 13 2023 8:29 utc | 87 My above typo first line last paragraph…. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 13 2023 8:37 utc | 88 Passerby @1 For me, it’s all about community. Living a simple life, supporting those that need support and providing leadership in the community if needed. The community need to come together, arrange some fun things, minimise the disruption by positive actions and taking responsibility. Posted by: Jo Dominich | Apr 13 2023 8:41 utc | 89 uncle tungsten | Apr 13 2023 8:04 utc | 85 Sharm el-Sheikh is correct Google earth spelling, rather than as written by me in @90; Sharm el Skeik You guys ever go back in the archives and see all the stuff laughably wrong here? Posted by: Old Fart Legion | Apr 13 2023 9:25 utc | 92 Old fart legion @ 92 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 13 2023 10:09 utc | 93 https://t.me/ZandVchannel/60100 Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 13 2023 10:17 utc | 94 https://t.me/ZandVchannel/60099 Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 13 2023 10:22 utc | 95 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 13 2023 10:09 utc | 93 Posted by: Old Fart Legion | Apr 13 2023 10:24 utc | 96 So old fart @ 96 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 13 2023 10:30 utc | 97 You guys ever go back in the archives and see all the stuff laughably wrong here? Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 13 2023 10:31 utc | 98 Thanks Mark 2 and Stonebird. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 13 2023 10:50 utc | 99 Old Fart Legion #92
It is not funny, it is a tragic state of world affairs. Illegal sanctions is war by other means and Iran has copped a decade plus of persistent assault. Cuba even more so. It is not funny. Millions of people are diminished and disabled by sanctions war. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 13 2023 11:06 utc | 100 |
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