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April 13, 2023
More Doubts About The ‘Leaked’ Briefing Slides – Updated

Updated below (17:30 UTC)

When media reported on the first batch of 'leaked' Pentagon briefing slides they also published pictures of the originals.

Then came a second round which conveniently was more about bashing Russia than on the releases itself. Those leaks were labeled as new or from a previously unknown source. Among those stories were:

No Russia-Ukraine peace talks expected this year, U.S. leak showsWashington Post, Apr 12, 2023

The grinding war between Ukraine and Russia is expected to bleed into 2024 with neither side securing victory yet both refusing to negotiate an end to the conflict, according to a Defense Intelligence Agency assessment that is among the highly sensitive U.S. government materials leaked online and obtained by The Washington Post.

“Negotiations to end the conflict are unlikely during 2023 in all considered scenarios,” says the document, which has not been disclosed previously.

A stalemate also will result in Ukraine enacting the “full mobilization” of its remaining eligible population, the document predicts, sending more young men to the front lines.

Leaked US intel: Russia operatives claimed new ties with UAEAssociated Press, Apr 12, 2023

U.S. spies caught Russian intelligence officers boasting that they had convinced the oil-rich United Arab Emirates “to work together against US and UK intelligence agencies,” according to a purported American document posted online as part of a major U.S. intelligence breach.

The document viewed by the AP includes an item citing research from March 9 with the title: “Russia/UAE: Intelligence Relationship Deepening.” U.S. officials declined to confirm the document’s authenticity, which the AP could not independently do. However, it resembled other documents released as part of the recent leak.

The slides I have seen so far are from late February and the first days of March. A March 9 document is new.

New Leaked Documents Show Broad Infighting Among Russian OfficialsNew York Times, Apr 12, 2023

The additional documents, which did not surface in a 53-page set that came to wide public attention online last week, paint a picture of the Russian government feuding over the count of the dead and wounded in the Ukraine war, with the domestic intelligence agency accusing the military of obscuring the scale of casualties that Russia has suffered.

The new batch, which contains 27 pages, reinforces how deeply American spy agencies have penetrated nearly every aspect of the Russian intelligence apparatus and military command structure.

(The piece is bylined by Bellingcat's Aric Toler.) There is no explanation where the "additional documents" are coming from or how they were found.

US thinks UN chief too accommodating to Moscow, leaked files suggestBBC, Apr 13, 2023

The US believes the UN secretary general is too willing to accommodate Russian interests, according to fresh revelations in classified documents leaked online.
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It is the latest from a leak of secret documents, which US officials are scrambling to get to the bottom of.

I am also curious about the selective reporting of a second stash of documents by mainstream media.

This looks to me like someone is now piecemeal feeding additional 'intelligence' to the various outlets. Each runs a different stories. If this is from a common stash how come that these outlets seem to have coordinated who is taking on what briefing slide?

No pictures of the underlying briefing slides has appeared in this second round of 'leaks'.

Now the Washington Post claims to have lots of information about the person that 'leaked' the first stash of the Pentagon briefing slides:

The man behind a massive leak of U.S. government secrets that has exposed spying on allies, revealed the grim prospects for Ukraine’s war with Russia and ignited diplomatic fires for the White House is a young, charismatic gun enthusiast who shared highly classified documents with a group of far-flung acquaintances searching for companionship amid the isolation of the pandemic.

United by their mutual love of guns, military gear and God, the group of roughly two dozen — mostly men and boys — formed an invitation-only clubhouse in 2020 on Discord, an online platform popular with gamers. But they paid little attention last year when the man some call “OG” posted a message laden with strange acronyms and jargon. The words were unfamiliar, and few people read the long note, one of the members explained. But he revered OG, the elder leader of their tiny tribe, who claimed to know secrets that the government withheld from ordinary people.

The young member read OG’s message closely, and the hundreds more that he said followed on a regular basis for months.

I am skeptical of that way too neat story. Is this "mutual love of guns, military gear and God" for real?

The tale does not really explain how the 'reporters', the Post's intelligence and national security scribe Shane Harris and Samuel Oakford of Bellingcat fame, found the person or why it was willing to completely spill its beans:

This account of how detailed intelligence documents intended for an exclusive circle of military leaders and government decision-makers found their way into and then out of OG’s closed community is based in part on several lengthy interviews with the Discord group member, who spoke to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity. He is under 18 and was a young teenager when he met OG. The Post obtained consent from the member’s mother to speak to him and to record his remarks on video. He asked that his voice not be obscured.

His account was corroborated by a second member who read many of the same classified documents shared by OG, and who also spoke on the condition of anonymity. Both members said they know OG’s real name as well as the state where he lives and works but declined to share that information while the FBI is hunting for the source of the leaks.

One does not use real names when joining a gamers talk server or similar venues. So even if the Post had that member's online 'name' there would usually be no way to find it.

Did the teen gamer contact the Post? But why would s/he talk at all about the issue?

And why would the Post publish so many details about the person? This will evidently make it easy for the FBI to identify her or him.

The Post also claims that the stash is much bigger than previously known:

The Post also reviewed approximately 300 photos of classified documents, most of which have not been made public; some of the text documents OG is said to have written out; an audio recording of a man the two group members identified as OG speaking to his companions; and chat records and photographs that show OG communicating with them on the Discord server.

But the Post does not say where those 300+ documents come from or what they are about. Are they not the more important story?

We have pictures of the first stash of the files. The briefing slides seem real to me. The language is correct Pentagon lingo. The abbreviations used are typical. But some of the information therein, like the casualty numbers, is dubious. Do the Joint Chiefs of Staff really get briefed with Ukrainian defense ministry numbers that are know to be mere fantasies? The Pentagon and/or the CIA certainly have their own casualty estimates. Why not brief those?

We have seen no picture of any slide that the additional stories are based on. Why were those not published?

A plausible explanation is that the first release was a real leak but that someone is now pushing new 'leaks' to dedicated outlets that are only half true or mere propaganda.

On top of that the Washington Post story about 'OG' is not only weird but suspicious.

At Naked Capitalism Lambert Strether and Yves Smith also have doubts about it:

Yves and I discussed this piece; it seems to us remarkably “shiny”; perhaps written, from clues in tone and structure, by an entity other than the bylined “reporter.” The central character in the excessively tight narrative, “OG,” the leaker, is putatively a Christian, a gun enthusiast, and something akin to a cult leader of a group of disaffected teenagers on the Discord server where the documents were found; his motive in placing the documents there seems to have been to consolidate his authority and moral ascendancy over his group. Meanwhile, “OG” seems almost perfectly calculated to fit neatly into the “fascist traitor” hole in liberal heads. I wonder if we’ll ever find him? One can see “The Hunt for OG” storyline persisting for many weeks, good job. […] As far as cui bono, Yves points out that obvious next steps are to pass the pernicious Restrict Act and exert authority over yet another platform, Discord.

Or is all of this a diversion from the Ukrainian loss of Bakhmut?

Or was all this leaked as a warning to the White House by someone high up in the security state?

Seymour Hersh's latest about Zelensky's corruption may give a clue. A summary of the paywalled Hersh piece says:

Meanwhile, Hersh, citing an intelligence official, said that the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines and lack of strategic planning with regard to Ukraine had caused a growing rift between the White House and the US intelligence community.

“There is a total breakdown between the White House leadership and the intelligence community,” the intelligence official was quoted by Hersh as saying.

The alleged rift dates back to the covert operation last fall to blow up Russia’s Nord Stream pipelines, a move that was purportedly ordered by President Joe Biden.

“Destroying the Nord Stream pipelines was never discussed, or even known in advance, by the community,” the official said.

Another issue dividing the Biden administration and the intelligence community is the lack of planning on Ukraine. The official highlighted Biden’s decision to deploy two brigades a few miles from the Ukrainian border in response to Russia’s special military operation.

If there is some bad blood between the military or intelligence community and the White House the whole 'leak' story may well have been placed to limit the White House's option.

Update (17:30 UTC)

The New York Times has found the 'leaker' and published his name and whereabouts.

Leader of Online Group Where Secret Documents Leaked Is Air National Guardsman

The leader of a small online gaming chat group where a trove of classified U.S. intelligence documents leaked over the last few months is a 21-year-old member of the intelligence wing of the Massachusetts Air National Guard, according to interviews and documents reviewed by The New York Times.

The national guardsman, whose name is Jack Teixeira, oversaw a private online group named Thug Shaker Central, where about 20 to 30 people, mostly young men and teenagers, came together over a shared love of guns, racist online memes and video games.

The lead writer byline starts with Erin Toller of Bellingcat fame, another byline is of Christiaan Triebert, formerly Bellingcat. It was Triebert who who tweeted out the NYT story:

Christiaan Triebert @trbrtc – 16:02 UTC · Apr 13, 2023

We've identified the leader of the Discord group where top secret U.S. documents were leaked — it's a 21-year-old member of the Massachusetts Air National Guard, specifically its intelligence wing. Gift link, no paywall:

Here’s what we know about the leader of the online group where secret documents were leaked.

One writer byline of a Washington Post piece above was Samuel Oakford likewise a former Bellingcat writer.

We know that Bellingcat is an outlet for the British external intelligence service MI6. This thereby looks very fishy:

chinahand @chinahand – 17:11 UTC · Apr 13, 2023

if bellingcat id'd the leaker wonder if gchq fed some breadcrumbs so nsa could continue to maintain "we don't surveil US citizens w/o a warrant". there's a whole 5 eyes tagteam built around dodging national restrictions on surveillance, i think

I for one find it extremely concerning that the Washington Post and the New York Times worked more intensely on identifying the source of the leaks that the leaked briefing slides. Since when is it their job to find people who endanger the national security state?

/End Update/

Comments

I have scant knowledge on games with Christian/military themes, but I got reasons to believe that they can profoundly affect the participant. One evening I was pondering the issue of the prevention of personality damage by electromagnetic waves. Tinfoil hat is a folk remedy, with some justification in high school-level physics, but is this the state of the art? For example, it may get loose, waves may enter the brain through uncovered surfaces of the head etc. Would a replica of a mediaeval knight helmet be better?
First, I consider cost and availability. A highly praised version from solid steel was under 50 USD on Amazon, so within financial reach. Then I checked the reviews and they were somewhat disturbing. To wit, most of the reviewers suffered from the compulsion to type “Deus Vult” again and again, in all-caps, one chap seemingly more than 100 times.
The resulting altered mentality could lead the victim to the feeling of (a) divine mission (b) omni-potence, “I can access more secret documents than any young schmuck in USA!” (c) compulsion to brag about the fruits of his mission under Deus Vult command.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 13 2023 23:34 utc | 201

I have an idea about differences between leaked documents – counterintelligence found the leak and identified the person. then before detaining him, they fed him false documents (part of psyop) and allowed him to leak these falsified docs too. And at the end once psyop docs are leaked he was detained.

Posted by: asehi | Apr 13 2023 23:36 utc | 202

European Union Civil War anyone?
If this is tried it will be one gigantic SH1T-SHOW.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 13 2023 22:28 utc | 176
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And you think the existing US/NATO proxy war isn’t already a SHIT-SHOW? What I want to know is will there be a referendum in what is left of Ukrainian and Poland? I hope so because that would justify the referendums by the four Oblast in the former Eastern Ukraine which voted to join the Russian Federation. If not, then it would be illegal and undemocratic by all UN standards.

Posted by: Ed | Apr 13 2023 23:43 utc | 203

A short play entitled ‘The leaked documents’
An expensive tastelessly decorated luxury flat in Washington: A group of people, ranging from plain to ugly but all well dressed, are celebrating, clinking glasses of champagne, laughing and and occasionally high fiving one another awkwardly. Circulating amongst them are masked serving staff, hands holding trays piled high with Hors’ D’ouevres.
Inside a shattered building: Sound of constant explosions from incoming artillery, occasional muffled curses and distant screams cut short. A conscripted Ukrainian soldier, caked in dirt, turns to the audience ‘Can you please do something about these glide bombs, and where are the tanks you promised us?’.
A Russian regimental CP: Soldiers sit and stand, talking quietly and occasionally pointing at maps, some look sad, others stone faced. Constant sounds of outgoing rounds and the buzz and hum of radio sets.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 13 2023 23:44 utc | 204

@Melaleuca
any suggestions how the material got out in the first place?
or would that be too speculative – since we appear to know nothing genuine about that part.
I like this lost control –> regain control theory.
It makes sense as to how the real world works. It´s not all chaos. Neither is it all 100% constantly manipulated.
thx for the work so far

Posted by: AG | Apr 13 2023 23:50 utc | 205

AG @ 205 “any suggestions how the material got out in the first place?”
That’s what interests me. Did he just stumble across them or were they left in his locker for him to find?
Should be a good story…..assuming we get the truth.

Posted by: dh | Apr 13 2023 23:56 utc | 206

Refinnejenna | Apr 13 2023 23:25 utc | 198

All this damage control and anything else connected to it as a consequence are serving to divert public attention away from what is really happening: that the US government simply has no clue (and never had any) as to what is happening in Ukraine, and US intel agencies have lost control of any narrative they may have had or tried to foist on Ukraine – because for a long time, they too have been operating in their own hermetic information bubble.

Yep.
A toxic sludge of people.. who are all in varying degrees lazy, ambitious, subservient, dullards. All feeding and feasting on each other.
And for decades none of it seemingly mattered, right up to now, with in excess of 100k Ukrainian soldiers killed and a nation eviscerated.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 0:02 utc | 207

The entire story of the MA airman is such contrived bullshit that it really only puts in doubt one thing, viz. the IQ of the people who invented this ridiculous script. They are buffoons if they think anyone believes this comic book level crap. Until recently, Washington’s political whores at least knew how to concoct artful lies. Now they make asses of themselves every time they leak one of their tales to the lickspittle numskulls who toil in the bowels of rags like WaPo, the NYT, or to their counterparts in the disgraceful London press bordello.

Posted by: Jack Gordon | Apr 14 2023 0:03 utc | 208

The Larry Johnson/Judge Napolitano vid interview as was stated above is a must see. Larry hypothesizes the leak was deliberate and internal–high up internal as two of the docs are way beyond reach of most, the CIA and the FISA. The FBI to “investigate” is another point. The interview between the WA Post and one of the alleged “kids” is staged as Larry said–tense use and other linguistic markers give it away. It will be interesting to read what he writes about this later.
It appears that Larry has had to follow the Saker on registration to comment.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 0:03 utc | 209

The key is the inclusion of a CIA doc in the tranche–there’s zero possibility the scapegoat could’ve had access to that. IMO, the question now becomes: Was he set up? Since he had to be provided with the CIA doc at least, then yes becomes a very strong possibility.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 13 2023 23:28 utc | 199
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You’re a very wise and learned man with a keen eye for bullshit.
Who believes any of this rubbage? The orchestrated lies would be comical if tens of thousands of human souls weren’t being slaughtered on a monthly (soon to be daily) basis. They’re fathers, brothers, husbands, sons and beloved friends and allies. Slavic brothers and sisters in some needless and lethal war. What motivates these people like Nuland, Soros and Sullivan … beyond evil? Is that it?? Why?
I worked hard all my life and provided for my beautiful family. I didn’t ever sign up for this. I wrote both my Senators and got back “Thanks for reaching out and fuck you” responses. Is there any end to this death and destruction?

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | Apr 14 2023 0:07 utc | 210

Melaleuca | Apr 13 2023 23:25 utc | 197 “Donbass Deshuva is quick to have the pages.”
Donbass Deshuva is I believe a team. They have been on podcasts. A woman, a couple of men. Could be wrong on that.
And this https://twitter.com/btr_fan21/status/1644384711576256538.
“@AricToler There are a lot more in the server”
“They deleted the images but I managed to save all”
That twitter account was created in December 2022 I scrolled through a lot of it at it was just a mass of retweets. It seems that only the doc stuff where the owner of that twitter account makes any comment and that is to bellingcat. I assume that is also a spook account set up for the operation.
The DD crowd are not 4chan types. How did they get onto them so fast? Was there a deliberate and innocent looking hint sent as there TG and twitter accounts have a good number of followers and its in English?
The wapo bellingcrap gameboy stuff doesn’t pass the stink test. I’m not sure that it exists.
This is an operation planned by and planed by a faction at the very highest levels and going by that twitter account supposedly holding all the images, some time in the making. Perhaps planning for it started after the pipes where blown.
Perhaps they could have gathered a mob of teen age game boys, sent them the information and just sat back knowing teenage kids would start spreading it around but its leaving a lot to chance. They may even have done that but if so that’s most likely a red herring. If we allow that the docs were given to teenage boys, there also would have been something in place to insure the docs got into the public domain 4chan and wherever else and then various social media accounts notified of their existance.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2023 0:12 utc | 211

The way the leak story is being steadily amped up, makes me more convinced it – or at least much of it – is disinformation.
The Russians seem to be treating it as disinformation.

Posted by: dnomsed | Apr 14 2023 0:13 utc | 212

Posted by: dh | Apr 13 2023 23:56 utc | 206
Or he was professionally groomed by the original leaker, the FBI have been found to have targeted church congregations before . Then all the leaker does is pass the poor sap information to help him win an online argument, possibly started by somebody who knew all the buttons to push to get a response after studying the groomers profile of the target. They then sit back and wait, trusting that somebody of his rank will not recognise the real significance of the documents he’s been given.
There is the problem of including the CIA documents, that Larry and other people who are aware of intel protocols have immediately zeroed in on. Including these rarely seen documents undermines the lowly NG minion narrative they have obviously pre-crafted. If the validity of the story is effectively questioned, and given the increasing scepticism toward anything this regime say, have the plotters not committed the cardinal sin of creating a cover-up that is more dangerous for them than the supposed crime?

Posted by: Milites | Apr 14 2023 0:20 utc | 213

This leak narrative is not worth the time it takes to walk across the street.. Government secrets violate the first Amendment.. If tried in a civil court, by a jury, I predict a not guilty outcome no matter the content of the disclosures or the ways and means used to obtain the content. No one likes a government that keeps secrets.

Posted by: snake | Apr 14 2023 0:22 utc | 214

Milites @ 213
Yes it was most likely something like that. He was a damn fool to fall for it. But I’d still like to hear his explanation. Or whatever explanation his lawyer can concoct.

Posted by: dh | Apr 14 2023 0:26 utc | 215

Larry Johnson- A high level operation to take down the Biden crew that have screwed the pooch.
Images that can be accessed agreed to be genuine.
Bellingcrap – British playing a role.
MSM writing on contents of fabled doc’s not seen by the public thought to be not genuine.
Russia gate Dems British working together to cook up crap to take down Trump.
If the leak operation is also about pulling out of the war against Russia… UK is as fanatical as the poles about destroying Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2023 0:29 utc | 216

AG | Apr 13 2023 23:50 utc | 205
suggestions how the material got out in the first place?
Nope. That’s what we *all* (@bar, @NSA!) want to know.
That 4chan post was unexpected and certainly not “planted”, hence the panic from the Nuland/ISW/Sullivan cabal.
It blew up 4chan and the 4pages were “everywhere all at once”. Which is why Elon Musk mocked the hapless intel stooges who demanded he remove it from twitter.
He knew it was already a hundred bushfires and trying to control was ridiculous and would make him look ridiculous.
The “originally posted at Discord” solution is Bellingcat.
It seems the docs were indeed posted to the ThugShaker Discord much earlier than they appeared on 4chan.
How did Bellingcat know this, and know it so early?
I recall that at the height of RussiaGate John Podesta, John Brennan, the deputy editor of WaPo and a few others at Georgetown University were using a gaming forum to trade info.
A hacker was lurking. His purpose was to find access to bank accounts. He didnt care and didn’t understand the discussion he was monitoring. But at some point he leaked the conservations he’d saved. Shit encountered fan at high velocity (and then was forgotten)
So. The Discord element has me intrigued as to who was hosting the Discord, who were the moderators? How does Bellingcat know about the Discord?
Speculative: Was Bellingcat hosting the Discord? Entrapment of useful idiots is long de rigueur or SOP.
I don’t agree the leak was deliberate. The panic was palpable.
But did how the docs make it to 4chan? That’s a chain of custody the FBI has been brought in to obfuscate.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 0:31 utc | 217

Piotr Berman | Apr 13 2023 23:34 utc | 201
Thanks.
A thread with a post that delivers a chortle is a good thread IMO.
thanks

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 0:33 utc | 218

You say kabuki.
I say kayfabe.
Kabuki, kayfabe.
Kayfabe, kabuki.
Let’s call the whole thing off.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 14 2023 0:34 utc | 219

There was a huge effort to create this much disinformation. You have to say that all the detail and its confusion speak to an intense effort by various US government entities.
NYT and WaPo more than willing to oblige, never in doubt.
The only purpose behind this noise, IMHO, is to provide some cover for Ukraine coming apart militarily. That time has been coming for a while and it is increasingly difficult to pretend that the Ukies are winning or that the ‘Wunderwaffen’ have been turning the tide.
NATO gave it the best and all they could. Sic transit Gloria Pax Americana. RIP would not be anything they would be willing to endure.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 14 2023 0:35 utc | 220

@Ed | Apr 13 2023 23:43 utc | 203
I did qualify with the adjectival ‘gigantic’ – but let’s not get into vapid argument …
First, the EU – this would create Internal political havoc – and the EU is already a mere patsy of US/NATO and suffering for it … many in EU not too happy with the Poles on many issues … especially on the Judiciary … Macron would certainly not support it and I can imagine the response of the other ‘EU bad-boy’ – Hungary – the latter under increasing pressure from the US …
NATO – again this would create havoc … but Erdogan is in line to lose election which will change dynamic in NATO and Black Sea and RF … US is certainly supporting the opposition .. not a fan of the man but he is providing some stability at the mo .. economy in tatters and hammering the Kurds won’t work this time
That said, this idea has been floated by some US ‘Think-Tanks’ … perhaps testing the waters … and the Polish admin are uber-Russophobic and Zelenski is clearly terrified of the Azov/Kraken etc
Russian Federation – One can only imagine …
It’s an insane idea – but it has been floating around for a while now … and nothing surprises me anymore …
The ‘instantly’ in the piece cited by South Front is, ergo, incorrect.
……………………………………………………………
Let’s try some sanity – Jeffrey Sachs [a few hours ago]
Russia Correct – and advocating agreement between India [media v. China hostile] and China which would be real game changer in a new multi-polar world …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inFgTbGlWI0
# I won’t mention the Dallas Cowboys but a big fan of the Texas Relays

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 14 2023 0:43 utc | 221

You say kabuki.
I say kayfabe.
Kabuki, kayfabe.
Kayfabe, kabuki.
Let’s call the whole thing off.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 14 2023 0:34 utc | 219
My favorite song off of the “Gene Okerlund Live at the Enormodome” concert!!!

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | Apr 14 2023 0:44 utc | 222

I don’t know if the young idiot was set up but I fully expect Trump to say he was and promise to pardon him if elected.

Posted by: J | Apr 14 2023 0:49 utc | 223

Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2023 0:12 utc | 211
AricToler is Bellingcat.
He was directing attention to the ThugShaker discord almost immediately.
And although 4chan is anonymous, he was posting the same there… (cut and paste is lazy, and has caught many out over the decades).
I’m sticking by my view no-one expected the docs to appear on 4chan.
The stench of panic from Sullivan was too real.
But just because they were caught off guard. They are very, very skilled (and resourced) at turning things around.
Sullivan directed corporate media not to report the leaks
They complied
Then he told them what to report about the leaks.
They complied
Nuland ISW intel cabal is back in narrative control, and we can thus confidently not believe anything about the leaks from here forward.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 0:56 utc | 224

don’t know if the young idiot was set up but I fully expect Trump to say he was and promise to pardon him if elected.
Posted by: J | Apr 14 2023 0:49 utc | 223
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So, Trump has NOTHING to do with this and your Trump Derangement is a mental illness. Why are you so fixated … worried … about him?
What gender do you “identify” with? Hate to break it to you … the “Unscientific” Trump thinks we’re either XX or XY. Males or Females. Seize HIM! Crucify him!!
Get over your TDS. We’ve got HUGE, LETHAL problems. Our lives are at stake, no cap, and your zombie hero Biden is the Kamikaze pilot.
And … leave our young kids alone. Ya hear me???!!!

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | Apr 14 2023 1:02 utc | 225

Drake Schroeder: TDS or no, what J imagines would in fact be a savvy move on Trump’s part. What’s more, it could well be the right thing to do.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 14 2023 1:14 utc | 226

@Ed
This is my new Texas star …
The Incredible Story of Rhasidat Adeleke: Texas and Ireland’s 200 & 400m Global Sprint Threat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmXescR2P2k
I’ll hold onto your St. Thomas Landry award for a while …!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 14 2023 1:24 utc | 227

More? I thought we had more than enough already.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 14 2023 1:28 utc | 228

Ukraine’s President Zelensky Accused of Embezzling Western Aid Money | Vantage with Palki Sharma
[5mins]
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is facing the heat once again, this time for allegedly embezzling money which Western nations rushed to Ukraine to help it repulse Russia’s invasion. Palki Sharma tells you more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgT0_Wv6N8o
The US wants corruption to be ‘more discrete’ – quite

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 14 2023 1:33 utc | 229

Drake Schroeder @210–
Thanks for your reply. What’s important is to know it’s happening AND why. Neocon and Neoliberal motives have been discussed over the years; I’ve come up with two explanations: Megalomania and Pleonexia that have been motivators for centuries. I’ve also delved into why those arose @10,000 years ago, but that’s not for this thread. Larry said he’ll write more tonight. Many await. But what he said to Judge Napolitano is enough to drive discourse here for now as some is already out up thread.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 1:45 utc | 230

AG @ 205:
Your comment (for some odd reason best known to my tiny little brain) reminded me of how the Stuxnet virus infected computer networks way back in 2010.
Legend has it that someone left a USB stick in some common area (like a public restroom?) and a curious schmuck picked it up and wondered what was in it so he (maybe she) stuck it into a PC or a laptop. This is how the Stuxnet virus supposedly came to infect computer networks worldwide but particularly in Iran.
Of course this doesn’t answer the question of who and why would leave a USB stick of information out in the open for someone to notice; or stick a file or an attachment to an email or a post intended for several people and then send it off into the deep blue cyber-yonder (unless by mistake which may happen more often than we’d think).

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 14 2023 1:54 utc | 231

Don Firineach @ 228:
Yes, I imagine Zelensky was supposed to take the US$400 million in installments over several years, not all at once.
But then he does need to pay for darling Olena’s shopping sprees in Paris or wherever.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 14 2023 1:58 utc | 232

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 0:31 utc | 217
Your theory about the leak being ‘not deliberate’ is not mutually exclusive to the idea it was planned, if we are talking about rival factions working with their respective intel tools, against each other to further their agenda. I worked in a company whose owner was corrupt, and this corruption leached its way to contaminate the entire company, as Chaucer said, if gold rusts what shall iron do? Biden is corrupt to the core, as was Obama, the institutions they helmed became corrupt, and with corruption comes factionalism, between the corrupt and those less so. Again I witnessed this phenomenon first hand, though instead of factions we called them rival mafias (which is highly appropriate when talking about ‘The Big Guy’). We were stuck in the middle, with our departmental head committing crimes daily and the owner of the business, with powerful political contacts, able to flaunt rules, especially those pertaining to employment rights. So, we set out to cause as much mischief as possible and one way was getting the rival mafias to ‘fight’ each other by letting them know each other’s plans. Petty stuff and not in the same league with the Big Beasts, but highly effective as a spanner chucking exercise.
Could it be that the institutions have become so fractured and corrupted that this leak was part of a factional battle, initially designed to embarrass and delay the agenda of a rival, by employing a targeted, groomed mark?

Posted by: Milites | Apr 14 2023 2:01 utc | 233

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 14 2023 1:54 utc | 230
I though it had been originally designed to destroy the Iranian centrifuges by affecting their control systems, but an engineer, at the installation, took the corrupted memory stick or laptop, IIRC home and plugged it into his PC, which was connected to the internet.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 14 2023 2:14 utc | 234

Connecting the dots, there was a sailboat that somehow transported tons of equipment to blow up NS2, which could only have been possible with massive artificial buoyancy, which could have been provided with a large enough number of weather balloons, which we have coincidentally been seeing floating around the earth lately, and which the Air Force have been shooting down, perhaps in an attempt to conceal them, and somehow AF Sgt Tashayda caught wind of all of this and they had to frame him to shut him up.
Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

Posted by: Boris Badenov | Apr 14 2023 2:21 utc | 235

surprised it took this long given all the reality winner-ish dumbness of the guy(s). as someone who got busted in the past looking at…questionable stuff on federal computers i can tell you they know every link you click and every page you print. (in my defense, i was a very, very bored temp at the time. plus they wouldn’t let me use the fridge. not related just super gay.)
it is nice that the bellingcats took a break from their xboxes and pretended to do something i guess. they’ve kinda been coasting on the russiagate thing for a while and it’s not like trump’s kids are leaving laptops lying around with whore vids and crack pipe pics. yet.

Posted by: the pair | Apr 14 2023 2:32 utc | 236

@Down South 112
if I follow Nicolai Petro´s scholarship e.g., this EU matter is absurd, since shortly before MAIDAN EU and RU had essentially BOTH agreed to help UKR financially. RU never had real issues with UKR being part of EU unless NATO was settled.
The only party who did NOT agree were the natonalists in RADA who simply refused to go along with this plan.
But who the hell knows this TODAY?

Posted by: AG | Apr 14 2023 2:32 utc | 237

@ 222 Drake
Lol. Thx

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 14 2023 2:32 utc | 238

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 1:45 utc | 229
You missed out that psychopathy, sociopathy and narcissistic personality disorders give a distinctive edge in certain career paths, especially where promotions are involved.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 14 2023 2:34 utc | 239

help please
no idea why but I can only post from phone. desktop no not even if I change name and email. can read ok.
not sure if from b or Microsoft or spooks or my incompetance. cannot download any new browser either.

Posted by: watcher | Apr 14 2023 2:37 utc | 240

Forgive me my cynicism, but this leak has a bit of stench. Possibly a partial psy-op. The patsy is as credible as Lee Harvey Oswald. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I think the old playbook is wearing as thin as the veneer of a Hollywood movie.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 14 2023 2:39 utc | 241

This is in any case irrelevant since Russia is not going to base its military operations on the alleged leaks. Whether they’re real or not makes zero difference in the real world.
Of course if it increases suspicions, internal spying, and infighting in Amerikastan that’s all to the good.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 14 2023 2:39 utc | 242

As the lies get more and more preposterous, they betray a certain amount of panic in DC.
I guess losing unipolar hegemony really is traumatic.
Get these clowns a support animal.

Posted by: Chris | Apr 14 2023 2:47 utc | 243

Apologies to b if he doesn’t think this link to Ellen Brown relates but I think it does big time
The Cobalt Gold Rush and the East Palestine Disaster
Ellen Brown is not known to make things into what they are not and the rabbit hole she presents is scary to me.
Just how manipulated is the world we live in?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 14 2023 2:53 utc | 244

I continue to be skeptical about the alleged leaks. The allegedly classified information is far to innocuous or commonly known to be worthy of being classified. The alleged perpetrator is far to low ranked to allegedly have access to such a broad spectrum of allegedly classified information. I suspect that the alleged perpetrator was set up by the US government. The motivation for the alleged leaks of allegedly classified information by an allegedly religious conservative gun enthusiast is to justify more stringent regulations on the internet.
Here is an interesting take on the issue:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/04/13/the-leak-was-the-op-white-house-and-congress-demand-new-powers-think-restrict-act-in-aftermath-of-classified-intel-leaks/

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Apr 14 2023 2:59 utc | 245

And, I might add, the Feral Bureau of Intimidation is on the case. We can can all sleep well tonight.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 14 2023 3:01 utc | 246

pepe escobar twitter
Old school Beltway intel source, retired:
Controlled leak.
Internal.
Way, way up – beyond the CIA.
21-year old gamer is a fall guy.
The circus is in town – actually a show that never ends.

Posted by: hankster | Apr 14 2023 3:09 utc | 247

Q: HOW DOES A 21 YEAR OLD PART-TIME GUARDSMAN WITH NO SENIORITY GET 100 DOCUMENTS OF INTELL???

Posted by: Dulles_Did_Dallas | Apr 14 2023 3:13 utc | 248

i note the many comments about how it smells. this is wring that is wierd etc etc. not just how a 21 yr old gets to have clearance to even see that combination of documents from well above his position of service. and bellingcrap. their only purpose is psyops, narrative management if you prefer, new verbiage. drip fed just enough truth to hook one in then its off to the unicorns for the big ticket items.
saudi not only dumped the dollar and made a side with the new boss they actually said syria should have its sovereignty back from foreign forces. ie USA out. now thats big, not been reported bar a few lines here and there. so lets just call it a psyops from the empire of lies

Posted by: hankster | Apr 14 2023 3:19 utc | 249

The Ukraine war if seen through the lens of reality, as opposed the fake media narrative, is simply indicative of the vile and corrupt nature of our current society. War for profit, MIC raking in the orders from compliant and chastened vassals, the money laundering in Ukraine itself, the bellowing of a sinking power threatening more wars, the leaks and attendant fake narrative.
Then we have the WEF with their “we will all own nothing except the rich” narrative, one accepted as reasonable rather than with the horror of the totalitarian state it entails, banks collapsing, inflation rampant, money printing, and now to crown it all the CBDC’s designed to completely control a woke and ignorant population that idolizes men in drag as somehow the epitome of human evolution.
Russia/China may be a fake opposition although they appear genuine, time will tell. If real the planet will split into two camps. One thing is certain, if living in the West, things are going to get real ugly before they ever get better, those that wish to impose their will are organized and holding the levers of power.

Posted by: Organic | Apr 14 2023 3:20 utc | 250

This is in any case irrelevant since Russia is not going to base its military operations on the alleged leaks.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 14 2023 2:39 utc | 241
This reflects my principal reaction to the whole drama – this caper is in no way directed at practically altering Russian military planning. There has been a lack of noticeable reaction from the Russian side, while the western media is tied up in knots. The idea that this is a deliberate leak of genuine documents seems more probable.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Apr 14 2023 3:30 utc | 251

Milites @238–
Thanks for your reply. Those traits are subsets of the two I provided: Megalomania and Pleonexia.
//////
Larry Johnson has written some more as promised:

Until I saw the document labeled, CIA Operations Center Intelligence Update, I was inclined to believe that the leaked documents were the work of a frustrated whistleblower. But I have changed my mind. This looks like a controlled, directed leak by individuals who manipulated the 21 year old National Guard troop into taking certain documents and posting them on a public server.
The CIA Operations Center Intelligence Update is a document produced by analysts in the Operations Center to be delivered to the regular CIA analysts. When I worked in the Ops Center I was responsible for monitoring traffic from Latin American posts and flagging items that the analysts in the Latin American Division need to know. I would write up summary paragraphs just like the ones in the documents leaked on line. This was an internal CIA document. It was not broadcast to the other intelligence agencies. In my 23 years working with U.S. military commands around the world, I never saw a copy of this type of report circulating among those with the highest clearances. Never. How did a 21 year old kid get his hands on at least two of these?
The classified documents now in the public domain are focused primarily on Russia and Ukraine. The CIA Ops Center docs now floating around the internet are only partial copies. For example, there are three pages, all classified Top Secret, from an eight page document. If you’re a goofy 21 year old gamer simply intent on impressing your young proteges, why not take all eight pages. My guess is that the other five pages contained no intelligence information on Ukraine or Russia.

There’s more at the link.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 3:40 utc | 252

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 13 Apr 2023⚡️
🔹#Kursk Region:
▪️ In Glushkovsky district, the enemy terrorists once again shelled the village of #Krasnooktyabrsky, damaging a residential house. There were no casualties.
🔹#Starobelsk (#Svatovo) Direction:
▪️ There are no significant changes in this section of the front, with positional fighting and artillery duels along the line of contact.
▪️ At #Svatovo, Ukrainian terror formations fired three rockets from HIMARS MLRS, destroying several economic and administrative buildings on the territory of the town’s hospital.
🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction (MAP):
▪️ Fighters of the Wagner PMC, after mopping up the vicinity of Rose Alley in #Bakhmut, have entered Oborona and Kraynya Streets.
▪️ In the centre of the city there is fighting in the area of the Grain Elevator and the Railway Station. To the south, fighting continues near the Bus Station and the Tranzit Hotel.
▪️ In the southern part of the city, the AFU continue to hold positions in multistory buildings near Chaykovsky and Korsunsky streets.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ North of #Avdeyevka, Russian servicemen are fighting near #Novobakhmutovka, expanding the zone of control towards #Novokalinovo.
▪️ In #Maryinka, positional fighting continues in the central part of the town.
▪️ Ukrainian terrorist formations shelled the #Donetsk agglomeration again. The DPR capital, #Panteleymonovka and #Vladimirovka have been hit; one person died and several were injured.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In #Melitopol an air defence system was triggered. An enemy drone was intercepted over the city. Preliminarily, there were no casualties or destruction.
🔹#Kherson Direction on #SouthFront:
▪️ On the right bank of the #Dnieper, Russian forces hit identified enemy points in #Kazatskoye, #Antonovka and #Kherson. Guided aerial bombs have been used to defeat targets such as ammunition and equipment depots.
➖ The Ukrainian terrorist formations responded by shelling civilian infrastructure in #Kakhovka, #Tavriysk and #Gornostayevka. In Nova Kakhovka, one civilian was killed as a result of shelling of a school.
🔸Political Events:
▪️ General Thierry Burkar, head of the Joint Staff of the French Armed Forces, arrived in #Ukraine to meet Zaluzhny. The Ukrainian general asked for ammunition, air defence systems and new aircraft for the needs of the AFU.

https://t.me/sitreports/7142

Posted by: Down South | Apr 14 2023 3:47 utc | 253

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Battle for #Bakhmut – Situation until the End of 13 Apr 2023⚡️
🔹 In #Bakhmut, the Wagner PMC assault squads have completely cleared the Roses Alley area, taking control of the People’s House and entering Kraynyaya and Oborona streets.
▪️ Fierce fighting continues in the central part of the city near the Grain Elevator and the Railway Station. The “Wagnerians” have crossed the railway line in some areas.
➖ To the south, assault squads are fighting near the Bus Station, attacking enemy strongholds along Kosmonavtov Street near the Tranzit Hotel.
➖ One of the units of the 227th Battalion of the AFU’s 127th Territorial Defence Brigade has abandoned one of its positions near the Railway Station.
▪️ Reinforcements from Chasov Yar have been redeployed to the western outskirts to strengthen the defence.
▪️ In the south intense fighting continues along Korsunsky Street. On the Chaykovsky – Korsunsky triangle and to the north of Samolet, the AFU stubbornly holds a strong fortification, using multistory buildings as strongholds.
📌 At the Moment, the Defence of #Bakhmut by Ukrainian formations continues. There are no visible signs of the city being abandoned by the AFU forces.
➖ Nevertheless, the “Wagnerians” are breaking through the positions of the Ukrainian formations, controlling already about 80% of the populated area.
➖ The transfer of the flank defence in #Soledar to the regular army paratroopers has freed up considerable resources of the PMC assault squads, making it possible to reinforce the onslaught in the city itself.

https://t.me/sitreports/7141

Posted by: Down South | Apr 14 2023 3:49 utc | 254

OT but interesting

During an interview with Elon Musk, BBC correspondent James Clayton complained that there were many posts “inciting hatred” in his Twitter feed. Elon Musk asked to give specific examples, but the journalist could not do it, because “he had not used the social network for four weeks”:
– I notice an increase in hate speech on Twitter, including with racist and sexist content.
– And if something seemed sexist to you, should it be banned?
– I’m not saying that…
– I’m just wondering what you mean by hate speech. I’m asking for concrete examples.
– To be honest, I…
– At least one example.
– You know, I don’t use the Twitter feed anymore, I don’t like it.
– Then where did you see it?
– Well, I used to use it.
– Then give an example. I keep asking, but you still don’t bring me. That is, you don’t understand what you’re talking about.
– Really?
– Yes. You can’t give an example. Not a single tweet. But at the same time you claim that there is a lot of hate in the language on Twitter, and this is not true. You just lied.
– Many organizations say the same thing!
– People generally talk all sorts of nonsense. I’m asking for a single example.
– Okay, never mind.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/41799

Posted by: Down South | Apr 14 2023 3:53 utc | 255

Elsewhere I just commented that the kid’s Oswald and the target’s Biden. But what faction’s pulling the trigger? Neocons wanting to displace Neocons, or Neoliberals wanting to displace Neocons? Or is there a third faction? What new stories will be told by daybreak?

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 4:04 utc | 256

Offensive on Avdiivka: the Russian army captured a section of the N20 highway and part of the AFU defense line
This is stated in the latest reports of Ukrainian military analysts.
▪️”The operational situation in the Avdiivka direction. To the west of Novobakhmutovka and northeast of Krasnogorovka, Russian troops managed to capture a section of the N20 highway and a stronghold of the AFU. The fighting continues.”
▪️”Heavy fighting in almost all areas. The Russians are building up artillery forces.
A threatening situation persists north of the city due to pressure from Krasnogorovka and Kamenka towards the AKKhZ and the northeastern outskirts of Avdiivka.
▪️The situation is very difficult on the part of the Opytnoe-Vodiane.
To the north of Vodiane, Russian troops launched a series of attacks towards the village of Severnoye and the village of Tonenkoe.
▪️Positional battles and artillery battles continue in the village of Pervomaiske.
The AFU is struggling to contain attacks, but their number is very large.

https://t.me/geromanat/5878

Posted by: Down South | Apr 14 2023 4:05 utc | 257

Re: Russian MOD & FSB infighting: I speculated this was the reason for Shoigu’s heart attack https://aaronlee.substack.com/p/poisons-slow-and-fast-gambits-against

Posted by: Aaron Lee | Apr 14 2023 4:20 utc | 258

This topic is simply impossible not to post about. This leak rhymes with the Zimmermann Telegram that the British used to get the USA into WWI. Except the proxy WWIII in Ukraine is already underway between NATO and the Russian Federation. But the month it took to go public is forever in a stalemated trench war.
I agree the first batch posted at Discord was real in their discussions of war, armament and God. Old farts, would never sanction their PowerPoint presentations being released to the public. Once copies were posted to 4chan and Minecraft chat rooms, the Five Eyes knew. Everything since is some sort of Info Operation. Note — Joint Chief Mark Milley mused about the return of the draft. Instead of being mercenaries, draftees in a just war would not to post information on the web that would harm God and Country.
Additional points; Bellingcat’s involvement means the British wanted this outed. There is definitely a split between the Intelligence Community and the loony Balkan diaspora White House National Security Staff and the State Department. Intelligence Agencies weren’t consulted about the Nord Stream’s destruction. The Pentagon clearly does not like the way things are going. The President is in la-la land. The leaks clearly point out that Secretary Anthony Blinken’s talk of retaking Sevastopol this summer is crazy insane.
Really, there are really only a very few options left. Either there is a global nuclear war or a UN Armistice and a new manned DMZ is built from the Arctic Ocean to the Black Sea. Cheap Russian energy will be quite the lure for Europeans. One Nord Stream natural gas pipeline is still functional. Once the peace treaty is signed, the North American hegemon will be no more. Surviving Westerners will have to live within their means in a tripartite world.

Posted by: VietnamVet | Apr 14 2023 4:25 utc | 259

karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 4:04 utc | 255
With Johnson’s update there is CIA involvement. Johnson I think wrote Bellingcrap is funded by both CIA and Brit intel and they look to be running the cover story for how the doc’s got out into the wild.
His summary was the documents were carefully chosen to show how bad the war in Ukraine is going with the spying Doc’s carefully chosen to be damaging to Biden.
Escobar tweeted something about being told this being run at the very highest level, above that of the CIA.
Larry also said something along those lines in the interview that only one spook service could pull together intel documents from three different services. Checking back on the video – Office of the director of National intelligence.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2023 4:32 utc | 260

Peter AU1 @259–
Thanks for your reply. Larry said there’s dirt about UNGS, S. Korea and Occupied Palestine too. I’m very curious what those docs say. As I wrote @255, Biden and his crew are all targets, but Biden the most. More spin will appear, and that will help determine which faction’s at the root.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 4:42 utc | 261

“Seems the entire bar has missed the fact that this “kid” is classified as a “pilot”, which denotes officer rank, not enlisted.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 13 2023 20:33 utc | 138
What is the significance of that?
.
“.. The President is in la-la land. ..”
Posted by: VietnamVet | Apr 14 2023 4:25 utc | 258
No, he is in Ireland, talking with the little people..

Posted by: Ново З | Apr 14 2023 4:45 utc | 262

And another question Karl – what is UNGS?
“.. UNGS, S. Korea and Occupied Palestine too. I’m very curious what those docs say. As I wrote @255, Biden and his crew are all targets, but Biden the most. More spin will appear, and that will help determine which faction’s at the root.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 4:42 utc | 260

Posted by: Ново З | Apr 14 2023 4:51 utc | 263

To add to my last comment, if Johnson is correct that these document were carefully chosen to create a picture, to create circumstances, then to disseminate them by putting them in some boy gamer site and leaving everything to chance is bullshit.
So the story is got into the MSM via reporter randomly checking through pro Russia or Russian social media social media. The Donbass TG channel was first to post it to telegram. How did they get it? They don’t inhabit the same spheres as teenage gamers.
Some how perhaps through a fake account, DD was dangled a bait, a link. Then it spreads a bit through TG channels and job done. Next tell an MSM reporter where to look.
But the thing is if all those docs were required to paint a picture, create a circumstance or whatever then it couldn’t be left to chance that they all got out to where the public could access them.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2023 4:53 utc | 264

UNGS = UN Secretary General?

Posted by: Ново З | Apr 14 2023 4:57 utc | 265

karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 4:42 utc | 260
If this is designed to get Biden out before he finishes his term. Sullivan and Blinken I assume could be easily sacked by a new president – Harris?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2023 5:02 utc | 266

Jimmy Dore puts this shit nicely. https://youtu.be/hbMyGEuj8To
What a world we live in.

Posted by: Vesa | Apr 14 2023 5:22 utc | 267

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Apr 13 2023 15:20 utc | 14
I don’t believe the hype. OG would be the handle of a 50 year old. A twenty one year minecraft devotee old would call themselves ‘Lil Miney’.
Eoin Clancy nails it @ 51. As others have said, this is obfuscation. Designed to increase confusion of the domestic public.
Don’t take your eyes off material reality, yesterday the clobber list is longer than ever.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Apr 14 2023 5:41 utc | 268

How did the homo leaker get access to top-secret bile??
“””His role involved working on transporting cyber security equipment.”””
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11970945/Top-Republican-intelligence-committee-demands-know-Discord-chatroom-leak-went-unnoticed.html

Posted by: mangowashername | Apr 14 2023 5:46 utc | 269

Bellingcrap you say. Then it’s totally fake and just dumb noise. How is the death count in Ukraine or the post vax cardiac ward or the new born going. So much to ignore, so much to distract, so little time to do it all.
Any instructions yet from WHO?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 14 2023 5:47 utc | 270

Texeira looks like an actor. He is.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 14 2023 6:28 utc | 271

@ Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 0:31 utc | 217
bellingcrap is the western spooks front door news delivery boy station… that’s how they know shit others don’t – typically western slanted shit from the western spooks angle of obfuscation and etc. etc..
——-
karlof1 and peter au.. thanks for your posts…

Posted by: james | Apr 14 2023 6:39 utc | 272

From the beginning theater is correct- hippie knows. Psy op is correct. This is only about turning your eyes away from what is reality and massive smackdown by Russia in Ukraine. Buying time for not admitting that they blew up nord stream. These people are terrorists. International criminals. One of them is in Ireland right now.
What I am saying is that all the information that was supposedly leaked by the 20-year-old gamer dude has no relevance whatsoever to anything and it’s completely known crap anyway.
Quit talking about it. Quit fueling the psyop. By talking about it you keep the psyop working. There’s nothing to talk about. the whole thing is completely bogus. Grow up and see through it. Or maybe you got caught up in that from the beginning and was scared of covid and ran out and got a vaccine. That’s called a psyop fundraiser. Or in my area that’s people dropping dead from vaccination. I’ll put my Ukrainian piece on the thread. Cheers all

Posted by: Diego | Apr 14 2023 6:39 utc | 273

@ Diego | Apr 14 2023 6:39 utc | 272
what is interesting about this is who has the knives out for who here?? – big players as i see it.. that is why some of us are focused on it.. they have sharp knives, lol… the fall guy is just another distraction – all of the surface story is a distraction, but underneath the question of who is driving this and what the intent is – that is the reason some of us are focused on this..

Posted by: james | Apr 14 2023 6:42 utc | 274

And a shout out Uncle Tungston! Dude you read my thoughts.

Posted by: Diego | Apr 14 2023 6:43 utc | 275

Asia Times take on this all this palaver
https://asiatimes.com/2023/04/new-era-leaker-charged-old-type-is-still-around/

Posted by: Flashspur | Apr 14 2023 6:51 utc | 276

Fox news published on the 11th

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-document-leak-may-have-come-from-outside-pentagon-sources?intcmp=tw_fnc
Separately, among the classified documents published online, there is also highly classified intelligence that was not part of any of the Department of Defense briefing books, Fox News has learned.
That intelligence appears to be produced by other U.S. agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.

And this

“These photos appear to show documents similar in format to those used to provide daily updates to our senior leaders on Ukraine and Russia-related operations, as well as other intelligence updates.

Same as what Larry Jonson has said today. Director of national security office is I believe who put together the daily briefings so the involvement of that office seems a near certainty.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2023 6:53 utc | 277

You know, a long time ago, in reading about the fall of the Ancient Rome, I remember being shocked about the story of Emperor Caligula marrying his horse (who was also, btw, a Senator).
How could they have gotten so crazy and degenerate as to let the emperor do such a thing? It seemed mind-boggling. But now, I understand. The USA is only half a step away from Caligula level insanity.

Posted by: Sam | Apr 14 2023 6:59 utc | 278

Here’s an article on Finnish Nato membership.
If TLDR, the crux of the message is that due to swampy and forest terrain any actual passages are blocked by obstacles. There won’t be any kind of conventional advance with tanks either in the direction of Helsinki or on the other hand, towards St. Peterburg.
A war will likely mean destroying Nato equipment and infrastructure in Finland with nuclear weapons. If Nato places nuclear bombs in Finnish air fields or installs potential missile launchers, it will drastically increase the chance of it. US will soon install them and there will be a Caribbean crisis 2.0.
https://en.topcor.ru/33890-chto-poterjala-finljandija-i-chto-priobrela-rossija-ot-vstuplenija-sosedki-v-nato.html

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 14 2023 7:01 utc | 279

Surprising number of Germans don’t believe the official story about the leaks and the patsy. Scroll through the comments:
https://www.merkur.de/politik/us-leaks-geheimdokumente-whistleblower-ursprung-discord-ukraine-krieg-geheimdienst-fahndung-92208421.html

Posted by: Exile | Apr 14 2023 7:04 utc | 280

As far as whoever was supposedly arrested in relation to the leaks there is another major fall guy that has now been set up. The leaks appear to be preparation for pulling out of Afgha… er Ukraine. Hersh has conveniently exposed Zelensky’s corruption at around the time leaked doc’s is hitting the media..
Hersh did a hit job on Biden not that long back when this leak operation would have most likely already started. That reminds me, if Biden is another fall guy, there is a snow covered laptop laying around somewhere.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2023 7:11 utc | 281

Thx James. You’re right. We have to keep looking deeper. Best

Posted by: Diego | Apr 14 2023 7:25 utc | 282

Just my 2 cents with 40 years in the Army and access to this kind of stuff. This is a sophisticated PSYOP with several clever goals. If we assume it is a US operation the best way to analyze this is to see what the goals might be. First, it is obvious this is the beginning of being able to walk away from US involvement in Ukraine. The second is to sow distrust among both enemies and allies. As always it is the regime of chaos. The third is to support the REACT Bill to clamp down on online communications and close the gap with less obvious targets like Redditt and Discord. All must be censored and monitored completely. This will likely cause a kneejerk reaction and a Patriot Act version 2 with further erosions of Constitutional Rights. The latter is important as unrest is growing in the US and is reaching a boiling point. The next election is going to be the most chaotic in history and a lot is happening so more obfuscation is required.
Add in the very careful design of the leaker being a young white male, right-wing, Christian, gun-loving, anti-semitic and anti-Black (I will assume LGBTQ+ will crop up soon). It is a trifecta.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Apr 14 2023 7:50 utc | 283

Three leaked text pages related to Ukraine are shown on this Russian news video. I had not seen these pages before. Does anyone have a link to the originals?

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/41818

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 14 2023 7:53 utc | 284

@ Old Microbiologist | Apr 14 2023 7:50 utc | 282
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Experience shows that the MIC loves to eat its own dogfood.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 14 2023 7:59 utc | 285

Ad. Sam 277
Caligula did not appoint his horse a senator because he was crazy. He did it to humiliate the Senate (the most powerful and ancient institution of Rome) and to show he reigned suppreme. That he could do even that.
It was an indication though of the perversion and degeneration of Roman society, especially at the top. Many parallels between the decline of the Roman empire and the American empire can be found. One doesn’t have to look far.

Posted by: Michael | Apr 14 2023 8:06 utc | 286

I am about to leak America’s top secret. I was quietly sitting on it for eleven years… When this secret goes out and attracts all of the international attention – America, as an empire would be over… So there it is :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NK0Y9j_CGgM
S 🙂

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Apr 14 2023 8:24 utc | 287

I’ll add the leaks are credible and basically nothing new to anyone who reads stuff like here at MoA or follows Ritter, MacGregor et.al.
The subject chosen to be sacrificed is 21 years old and in the Air Guard. He is not a pilot. At best, he is a janitor or coffee getter. Giving TS access to a lowly airman is very unlikely, but not impossible. Given the plethora of bad actors over the years, it should be assumed that security has been “figured out” by now. These leaks were of a type that would be used in a tabletop briefing of someone very senior. Think Joint Chiefs level. So, how would that be even viewable at a National Guard intel unit? Extremely unlikely.
Looking at the airman in question, at 21 he couldn’t be a pilot. To be a pilot requires a BS degree usually in Engineering (usually aeronautical engineering) and often a Master’s is typical. Then we have 36 months of flight training. Add it up. It is impossible, especially in the Air Guard. Weekend warriors don’t get that kind of training. Pilots in the Air Guard usually came from active duty and typically work as commercial pilots and keep their military flight hours up for retirement (and additional pay) with the Air Guard.
I will admit I accepted the leaks as valid up until they cherry picked this guy and started overdoing it with the March 6th leaks. It was too much to be believable by any intelligent person. Add in the original stories came form the NYT and WaPo sources no longer with any credibility at all.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Apr 14 2023 8:27 utc | 288

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 13 2023 21:11 utc | 149

.. And it all comes from one source, or two, however you want to call it – Ukraine MOD facebook account seemingly run by teenagers, ISW and “British intelligence”.

So well, let the remaining “better Nazi youth” of UKR now do it – the final game – then, based on their current educational poor minds of a virtual Internet knowledge.
Plus:
Mix actual war scenarious all up then, and present it daily by SmartPhones together with some new pandemic & vaccine stories to degrade them finally down to a sort of .., of like apes ..

Posted by: spare_truth | Apr 14 2023 8:27 utc | 289

You know, a long time ago, in reading about the fall of the Ancient Rome, I remember being shocked about the story of Emperor Caligula marrying his horse ..
Posted by: Sam | Apr 14 2023 6:59 utc | 277
Which me reminded of a question I’ve had for a while, particulary since statues have been destroyed – “What was so Great about Catherine (born Princess Sophie of Anhalt-Zerbst · 2 May [O.S. 21 April] 1729 · Stettin, Pomerania, Prussia)?”

Posted by: Ново З | Apr 14 2023 8:32 utc | 290

Lucca and Niggerbrapp

I read a few days ago that a couple of boys on discord did the leaks. Thier usernames were Nig#€rbrapp and Lucca. Apparently thier friend was trying to prove that he was an intel dude.
https://www.gfilotto.com/this-is-precisely-the-type-of-person-they-have-working-in-the-deep-state#comments
Posted by: Wazdaka | Apr 13 2023 18:31 utc | 93

To read the screenshot of the 4Chan comment, remove the “resize=1024” from the end of the url. Or use this link directly.

https://i2.wp.com/www.gfilotto.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/img_8987.png

Vocabulary:

  • chug = Comfy Happening in Ukraine General (pro-Russian 4Chan subthread under /pol/)
  • glowie = CIA or other intelligence operative
  • brap lover = affection for the sound of gunfire
  • BTFO = “blown the fuck out”
  • kek’d = LOLed

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 14 2023 8:36 utc | 291

At the end of the day the content of these papers is only the US Intelligence view of the situation, not facts.

Posted by: Pancho Plail | Apr 14 2023 8:43 utc | 292

Milites | Apr 14 2023 2:01 utc | 232
rival factions working with their respective intel tools, against each other to further their agenda Yep. I’d agree that’s exactly what’s in play here.
@PeterAu: …”only one spook service could pull together intel documents from three different services. ….. Office of the Director of National intelligence.”
Hmmm. Ok. So that’s… Avril Haines.
Who is Avril Haines???
Reading this hagiography in The Guardian… she stepped straight out of the pages of a Tom Clancy novel…
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/26/avril-haines-director-of-national-intelligence

What counts even more, though, is her previous relationship with the president, [Biden] something none of her predecessors had. That alone could make her one of the more powerful directors of national intelligence.
“I was in the PDB [president’s daily brief] every morning with her for the last couple of years [of the Obama administration] when she was deputy national security adviser, and so was Biden,” [Ben] Rhodes* said. “Presumably now as DNI, she could be the person briefing Biden every morning on intelligence matters.”

[Rhodes= “Barack Obama’s former speechwriter and foreign policy aide who is a close friend of Haines”.]
Tidbits from guardian^:
… David Priess, a former CIA official now chief operating officer at the Lawfare Institute, said her unusual life story is an advantage in the world of espionage.
…she deferred college for a year and instead went to study judo at Tokyo’s Kodokan Institute, where she rose to a brown belt.
On her return to the US, she studied theoretical physics at the University of Chicago and to help make ends meet, worked as a car mechanic, rebuilding car engines.
…she plunged into her next dream project, restoring a second-hand plane and flying it to Europe. With her flight instructor she found a 1961 Cessna and rebuilt its navigation, communication and other electronic systems…
…Haines married her instructor, David Davighi. They moved to Baltimore…
…saw a newspaper advertisement for a bar-brothel that had been seized in a drugs raid and was being auctioned off. They bought it…
…Haines had changed direction again. Community organising had got her interested in the law and in 1998 she enrolled at Georgetown University, where she came to specialise in human rights and international law.…
“Georgetown” is HRC, Podesta, an absolute rats nest of spies and spooks and connections…
As I said in an earlier post, Podesta was using a gaming server to communicate during RussiaGate, with others at the “Georgetown outpost”. So they have form in using these back alleys of the internet to bypass scrutiny.
Watching JudgingFreedom _ Napolitano’s interview with Tony Schaffer.
Schaffer says fewer than 15 people have access to the tranche of docs…. It “goes right to the top”.
Avril Haines gave three presentations recently:
March 8, 2023, Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines delivered opening testimony at a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing for the Annual Threat Assessment of the U.S. Intelligence Community.
She said: “Before I start, I just want to publicly thank the men and women of the Intelligence Community, whose work we are presenting today. From the collector to the analyst and everybody in between who made it possible for us to bring you the annual threat assessment in hopes that this work will help keep our country safe and prosperous, thank you.”
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/congressional-testimonies/congressional-testimonies-2023/item/2373-dni-haines-opening-statement-on-the-2023-annual-threat-assessment-of-the-u-s-intelligence-community
>…The ‘Most Lethal Threat’ To America Revealed: Militarised Nazis More Dangerous Than China Or Putin, New Intelligence Report Says
The unclassified report, published in February, warns about “transnational RMVEs,” which stands for “Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists.”
“Transnational RMVEs continue to pose the most lethal threat to U.S. persons and interests, and a significant threat to a number of U.S. allies and partners through attacks and propaganda that espouses violence,” the assessment says.
The report defines such RMVEs as “largely a decentralized movement of adherents to an ideology that espouses the use of violence to advance white supremacy, neo-Nazism, and other exclusionary cultural-nationalist belief.”
The assessment goes on to warn a prolonged conflict in Ukraine could benefit RMVEs, in terms of learning military skills.
“The total number of foreign violent extremists traveling to Ukraine has been limited,” it adds.
Haines’s assessment has skeptics. Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Arkansas, asked Haines at a recent Congressional hearing if she was serious about her warning about RMVEs.
Both sides of the U.S. political spectrum have a list of internal activist groups which they consider dangerous.
For Republicans, the list includes Antifa and Black Lives Matter. For Democrats, it includes The Oath Keepers and Patriot Front.
https://knewz.com/rmve-intelligence-nazi-threat-violence-terrorgram/
[So. Avril doesn’t like young men with “nationalistic” ideas… like Christians and militia members….? ]
>…Jan 27: An Evening With Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines.
This program is co-hosted by the Clements Center for National Security, LBJ Presidential Library, Public Interest Declassification Board, and the Strauss Center as part of a two-day conference “America’s Secrets: Classified Information and our Democracy” on January 26 and 27, 2023.
Director Haines’s keynote was held in-person in the Lady Bird Johnson Auditorium located at the LBJ Presidential Library.
About:
……… DNI Haines received her bachelor’s degree in physics from the University of Chicago and a law degree from Georgetown University Law Center.
Ok. What this tells me is that Avril Haines has recently delivered some public presentations… [inb4: big deal🙄].
Someone relatively junior will have pulled together the docs for her to use.
Someone young, clever with software and tech, but not really smart enough to know the importance of what they were collating?
Someone supporting the Ukraine side in the conflict, who found the slide showing Ukraine losses at half those of Russia, and thought posting this would be the winning “proof/source” on an anonymous image board ???
Lololololol=
While I was delving at this address:
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/speeches-interviews/speeches-interviews-2023/item/2370-dni-haines-summit-for-democracy-opening-remarks
At first her speech was available.(4pm)
And when I returned … (7pm)

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Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 8:58 utc | 293

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2023 3:40 utc | 251
Interesting to know, also good for a Scrabble game! There is also one element that is oft overlooked, which is the removal of any spiritual dimension in life can, in certain individuals, create similar symptoms, though they are not actually suffering clinically from the syndromes mentioned. The Harvard Business Review wrote a fascinating and highly prescient article, twenty years ago, linking the success of capitalism with Christianity, in essence saying that without its moderating influences and subtle checks and balances it was in danger of destroying itself. Whatever your view on religion, they predicted the current sad state of affairs, and the rough generational timeline that this decay would take place in.
I do smile when atheists attack religion, and then talk about the evil West versus the RoW, when the RoW are by and large quite happy with admitting the spiritual dimension into their everyday lives.

Posted by: Milites | Apr 14 2023 9:13 utc | 294

At first her speech was available.(4pm)
And when I returned … (7pm)
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Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 8:58 utc | 292
I found it 404’d as well, but clicked on the proffered link to the home page; via this I was able to find the following: https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/speeches-interviews/speeches-interviews-2023/item/2374-summit-for-democracy-2023
Is that the same thing you were initially looking at?

Posted by: West of England Andy | Apr 14 2023 9:15 utc | 295

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 13 2023 15:02 utc | 8
“A house divided cannot stand.”
It looks like a slow motion train wreck to me.
A self inflicted wound ……

Posted by: Paul GV | Apr 14 2023 9:16 utc | 296

Old Microbiologist | Apr 14 2023 7:50 utc | 282
Always good to see you posting.
support the REACT Bill to clamp down on online communications and close the gap with less obvious targets like Redditt and Discord.
Yep yep yeppity yep.
careful design of the leaker being a young white male, right-wing, Christian, gun-loving, anti-semitic and anti-Black
The “profile” from central casting.
A glove-that-fits profile matching Avril Haines recent testimony on
RMVEs,” which stands for “Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists…. The biggest threat to the US, according to Avril.
Old Microbiologist | Apr 14 2023 8:27 utc | 287
These leaks were of a type that would be used in a tabletop briefing of someone very senior. Think Joint Chiefs level. So, how would that be even viewable at a National Guard intel unit? Extremely unlikely.
I think someone young, tech and software savvy put a PowerPoint together for Avril Haines to deliver at one or all of the recent public presentations she’s delivered.
With outsourcing and “working from home” a laxness has crept in re security.
Imho that’s why Jake Sullivan panicked after the 4pages appeared on 4chan.
The Nuland cabal knew exactly what these docs were.. and they were temporarily discombobulated as to how the docs got into the wild.
Bellingcrap stepped in, it’s always lurking in the dark Osint world. It probably ran the Discord where the docs were first stored, prior to the 4chan release.
@PeterAu
The Donbass TG channel was first to post it to telegram. How did they get it? from 4chan. It was the post at 04/06/23(Thu)01:33:13 on 4chan that started this.
Bellingcrap then lead the hunt to the ThugSaker Discord.
The 4chan post lit a thousand bushfires on the internet… Donbass Deshuva for sure is lurking 4 chan, and were quick to grab it and repost.
They’ve now become “collateral damage” as the US has seen this as an opportunity to shut them down. Their daily view numbers, and their previously uncontrolled content would have been a source of consternation for the US Nuland ISW narrative controllers. Now they’ve been able to neuter Donbass Deshuva TG.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 9:17 utc | 297

Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 8:58 utc | 292
I looked her up earlier though just at Wikipedia. That speech that has disappeared – can you remember the date of the speech?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2023 9:18 utc | 298

Ново З | Apr 14 2023 8:32 utc | 289
What was so Great about Catherine
I could be all wet but it is my assumption that she was simply a large woman. In german she is referred to Katherina die grosse.
Charlemagne is called Karl der grosse in german as well.

Posted by: dan of steele | Apr 14 2023 9:24 utc | 299

Petri Krohn | Apr 14 2023 8:36 utc | 290
>… brap (lover) I thought to be farts.
But I know better than to let 4chan suspect I’m a boomer. 😎
West of England Andy | Apr 14 2023 9:15 utc | 294
Maybe. I was doing a dig and a trawl, opening tabs, doing a quick skim… and then the dog insisted it was walking time.. when I got back Avrils page had disappeared.
I’m in a mood to be suspicious of everything ATM 🤨

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2023 9:25 utc | 300