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April 4, 2023
Journalist, Spy Or Cyber Front Warrior?

Last Thursday, March 30, Russian authorities arrested the Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershovitch:

Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) claimed that Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich was “acting on instructions from the American side to collect information about the activities of one of the enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex that constitutes a state secret.” Gershkovich, who was arrested in the city of Yekaterinburg in the Ural Mountains region, will be held until at least May 29, according to Russian judicial officials.

The Wall Street Journal said it “vehemently denies” the allegation and demanded that Russia release Gershkovich, who has lived in Moscow for six years and was accredited by Russia’s foreign ministry. If convicted, he could face up to 20 years in prison.

Would the Wall Street Journal even know if the CIA hired one of its journos for a side job?

But fear not, the CIA would never do such:

The arrest shows that Moscow is “increasingly treating the United States as an open belligerent in a war against Russia,” according to George Beebe of the Quincy Institute, who previously led Russia analysis at the CIA.

Citing a 1977 law that banned CIA recruitment of journalists, Beebe argued that it is “very unlikely that Gershkovich is a U.S. intelligence asset or that his reporting was directed or influenced by the U.S. Intelligence Community.”

Surely, the CIA would never ever break a law, says a former CIA analyst …

But why then is the U.S. Secretary of State calling Russia for a talk about the man?

Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Sunday held a call with his Russian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov, to discuss Evan Gershkovich, a reporter for The Wall Street Journal and US citizen who was detained in Russia last week over spying allegations.

According to a State Department readout of the call, Blinken expressed the US’s “grave concern over Russia’s unacceptable detention of a US citizen journalist” and called for his “immediate release.”

According to the Russian side, Lavrov told Blinken that a Russian court will decide Gershkovich’s fate. “In light of the established evidence of the US national’s illegal activities, his future will be determined by court,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) claimed that Gershkovich, “acting at the behest of the American side, collected information constituting a state secret about the activities of an enterprise within Russia’s military-industrial complex.”

May be I am naive, but what Gershkovich inquired about was way too much on the questionable side than to be called journalism:

Kevin Rothrock @KevinRothrock – 17:15 UTC · Mar 30, 2023

Journalist @kolezev, who spoke on background to @evangershkovich before his trip to Yekaterinburg, says Evan hoped to intercept employees (literally in the street) leaving the UralVagonZavod plant in Nizhny Tagil or the NPO Novator missile factory in Yekaterinburg, planning to ask them how they feel about the invasion of Ukraine.

This more than the WSJ’s Wagner Group investigation seems likeliest to have triggered the FSB’s “espionage” paranoia. Evan knew the risks but apparently hoped that the FSB would let him be, given that war sentiment isn’t a state secret.

https://t.me/kolezev/13266

Колезев ☮️
Мария Захарова заявила, что «то, чем занимался в Екатеринбурге сотрудник американского издания The Wall Street Journal, не имеет отношения к журналистике». Марии Захаровой, конечно, виднее, ей в ФСБ…

Tass summarizes the accusations:

  • US citizen Evan Gershkovich, a correspondent for the Moscow bureau of The Wall Street Journal (WSJ), was detained in Yekaterinburg, Sverdlovsk Region, in the Urals region of Russia, on suspicion of espionage.
  • According to the FSB, the journalist was collecting top-secret data about an enterprise within the Russian military-industrial complex in the interests of the United States.
  • The American was detained while trying to obtain classified data.

Yekaterinburg has been a the metallurgical center of Russia for 300 years:

Yekaterinburg was founded on 18 November 1723 and named after Yekaterina I, the wife of Russian emperor Peter the Great. The city served as the mining capital of the Russian Empire as well as a strategic connection between Europe and Asia.

The city grew during the second world war when Russia moved its heavy industry away from the frontline to behind the Ural. UralVagonZavod is the largest tank manufacturer in the world. It is currently producing the T-90 tanks for the Russian army. NPO Novator is making anti-aircraft missiles and other weapons like the Kalibr cruise missiles which are currently in high demand.

To ask workers of such factories how they feel about the U.S. proxy war waged against Russia while that war is ongoing seems a bit off to me.

What would have been the offer by Gershkovich to any worker who would have spoken against the war?

Also, this was about more than just asking random workers:

The Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich was interested in operation of military-industrial complex facilities in Yekaterinburg, Sverdlovsk Region Legislative Assembly deputy Vycheslav Vegner, whom the reporter interviewed earlier, told TASS Thursday.

"[During the interview, Gershkovich] started asking questions regarding the military-industrial complex of Yekaterinburg, he named one such enterprise – ‘Novator’- and so on," Vegner said.

According to the lawmaker, the reported cited the experience of other regions on industry conversion and asked about the Sverdlovsk Region experience – for example, whether the enterprises change their profile, how many shifts there are, and if they are appropriately staffed. Vegner noted during the interview that he is not authorized to answer such question.

Anything about weapon production numbers or related issues are of course state secrets, at least during times of war. What then do we call such inquiries if not espionage?

Gershkovich also inquired about the lawmaker’s communication with Wagner PMC founder Yevgeny Prigozhin – to which Vegner answered that he is familiar with this issue, because he received applications from convicts who desire to volunteer.

The Wagner founder seems to have been of special interest:

In an interview with Kommersant, Yaroslav Shirshikov, a local public activist, said he spent two days with Gershkovich in Yekaterinburg. The main objective of Gershkovich’s mission "was to analyze society’s attitude toward Prigozhin. He wanted to find out whether public support for the special military operation was growing or dwindling," Shirshikov said.

The questions Gershkovich asked surely deserved some scrutiny from the Russian authorities. One wonders what else they found with him.

But don't look what Gershkovich has done, say some. Obfuscate it whenever possible.

Jason Rezaian @jrezaian – 3:17 UTC · Apr 2, 2023

When reporting on Evan's ordeal, avoid repeating the Russian narrative. The fact that he is a hostage is the story, not the supposed charges against him. Constantly humanize Evan.
Drop all our notions of competition and steel ourselves for a potentially long ordeal. #FreeEvan

Quoted Tweet:

Nicholas Kristof @NickKristof – Apr 2
Replying to @jrezaian @MtthwRose and @WSJ
Jason, you've been in Evan's situation. What would you suggest that the journalistic community do to support him?

Jason Rezaian indeed has experience with the situation. He had been imprisoned in Iran for espionage when he worked there as 'journalist'.

Not that the CIA would ever hire such …

On Sunday, April 2, the Russian war blogger Vladlen Tatarsky, real name Maxim Fomin, was killed in a terrorist attack in St Petersburg.

Russian authorities arrested the woman that had brought the bomb which killed Tatarsky. While the man was more of a warrior or grifter than a journalist the Russian public is likely to connect the cases. It will demand harsh punishment for Gershkovich. The Ukrainian secret service, which likely was involved in the assassination, may well have intended such.

Craig Murray – @CraigMurrayOrg – 18:04 UTC · Apr 2, 2023

My first thought is that terrorism killing a Russian journalist is really going to make things worse for Evan Gershkovich.

Then I realised that it is in Ukraine's interest for US/Russian relations to deteriorate further over Evan Gershkovich.

Russian pro-war military blogger killed in blast at St Petersburg cafe
Vladlen Tatarsky, who had over 560,000 followers on Telegram, dies in explosion that injures 19 people

But is this really in Ukrainian interest?

Gonzalo Lira – @GonzaloLira1968 – 19:41 UTC · Apr 2, 2023

Terrorist attacks like this one do nothing — except harden the Russian public’s resolve to smash the Kiev regime and take all of Ukraine.

It ensures that Russian public sentiment will never support a cease-fire or negotiated settlement.

In other words, this hurts Ukraine

Intermarium 24 @intermarium24 · Apr 2
💥 An explosion occurred in St. Petersburg, Russia during a meeting organized by Pro-Russian military blogger – Vladen Tatarsky. The cafe was owned by PMC Wagner chief Evgeniy Prigozhin. Unknown woman gifted Tatarsky a small statue with explosive device. 1 killed, 6 injured.… Show more

The unknown woman who 'gifted' the statue was Darya Trepova:

Russia media reports say Ms Trepova, 26, handed Tatarsky a statuette which was believed to contain the explosives that killed him and injured more than 30 people. Later in a video released by the Russian Interior Ministry, she is seen admitting she brought the statuette to the cafe where the blast took place.

Her husband Dmitry Rylov suggests she may have been duped.

Whatever happened, going forward Darya Trepova will not have an easy life.

Victor vicktop55 @vicktop55 – 13:37 UTC · Apr 4, 2023

Evgeny Prigozhin gave an exclusive interview to SHOT.

"Vladlen Tatarsky is a sacred symbol of Russia's struggle against external evil.

This attack was staged to remove the "voice of Russia" in order to weaken our struggle. But there will only be more resistance.

For people like Trepova, the death penalty should be brought back. Put her against the wall and drill a hole in the head. She is an enemy. Her employers are enemies. The fight against enemies must be absolutely merciless.

Now there are more attacks on journalists than on government officials. Because journalists are active people. They are the voice of the public. We need such active people to defend Russia in their field.

Unite is the first thing to do to fight the recruits. Society must reject any attempt to side with the enemy."

The cafe where the explosion occurred belongs to Yevgeny Prigozhin. He will hand it over to the Cyber ​​Front office. It will be renovated and everything will be furnished as it was on the day of Tatarsky's death.

"Cyber ​​Front – these are the people who defend Russia's interests in the information space. Cyber ​​Front will work even more actively. Nobody is afraid."

Prigozhin will provide material assistance to the victims of the terrorist attack from personal funds.

"Our task is to ensure that the patriotic movements that exist in our society continue to grow."
https://t.me/vicktop55/14271

Dima of the Military Summary channels suggested that the terror attack that killed Tatarsky was a planned diversion. It is supposed to move the public eyes away from the fact that the Ukrainian army is currently getting removed from Bakhmut. The fight there had been lost months ago but the Ukrainian army is only now giving up. Ten thousands of Ukrainian soldiers died there in vain.

One hopes that one day the people of Ukraine will hold those responsible who had needlessly sent those soldiers into such fate.

Comments

187 – It’s the stuff he has written, most recently, that I find objectionable, not his accent.

Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 5 2023 13:55 utc | 201

185 189
transcripts .. possible to play vid into speech to text software????….perhaps presenters could be persuaded of such ….oh boy . given up listening to Mercouris. no time to read his if transcripted though.

Posted by: Jo | Apr 5 2023 14:03 utc | 202

@Jo | Apr 5 2023 14:03 utc | 198

given up listening to Mercouris. no time to read his if transcripted though.

How interesting. /s

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 5 2023 14:10 utc | 203

>>>The existence of the Kulaks was incompatible with Soviet ideology and were dealt with accordingly.
But as a communist ideologue you can’t bring yourself to admit this…” Down South@166
There’s not much chance of a reasonable dialogue with someone as arrogant as you.
But let’s try. In the sense that they were hoarders and usurers, you are right: the behaviour of many kulaks was incompatible with Communist ideology. Of course it was also incompatoble with almost every other ideology: holding grain off the market toincreae profits at a time of famine is Crime #1 in almost all societies, before the liberal ‘let ‘er rip’ ideas that brought us the Irish Potato Famine (massses of food were exported whikle masses of people starved) and, of course, successive Indian Famines sponsored by the Raj and its utilitarian servants.
Under the NEP of that well known communist ideologist VI Lenin the market orientated behaviour of all peasants, including the larger, was encouraged. It was believed that by maximising production the famine problem would be solved. And that class struggle in the countryside would solve the problem that some peasants had taken more than their fair share of communal land and privatised what was never more than leased property.
But it wasn’t and Stalin’s government chose the classic capitalist agricultural choice: the enclosure of peasant holdings and fatming of consolidated monster farms “just like in America” and according to expert advice from US experts.
To an extent it worked, and there were no more famines except the terrible wartime and post war famines- of which the west took advantage as weakening incidents.
Its a complex thing- I know it is hard for anti-communist ideologists to keep their tempers in check as they look at Soviet history through the distorting lenses of Conquest, Applebaum, Snyder style lies, but it needs to be done.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2023 14:17 utc | 204

Now why all these attacks on Martyanov? OK, he’s not fighting in a trench in the Donbass, but are you?
His blog is his own (and liked by many), if you don’t fancy it, keep away from it and if you can write a better blog, we will visit you…but vicious commentary, totally uncalled for, reeks of Elenskiism…

Posted by: Anthony | Apr 5 2023 14:23 utc | 205

“..So true about the Assange swap nonsense. He is suffering a crime committed against him as a journalist by UK, US, Australia and to some degree Sweden. His case is completely unrelated to Russia.”
Norwegian@156
As was Snowden’s. It didn’t have much to do with Ecuador either but he took reference in the Embassy there for years.
And in one sense you are wrong: if Russia sincerely wants to see multipolarity and International Legality it has a real interest in diirecting a blow against the disgusting collusion which keeps Assange in jail. If Russia ‘does the right thing’ and Assange gets the run of eurasia in freedom it will speak volumes to the rest of the world.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2023 14:24 utc | 206

he took refuge. !!!!

Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2023 14:26 utc | 207

Posted by: Dan Farrand | Apr 4 2023 22:53 utc | 112
A most eloquent taking out of an ignorant, pretentious, sneering troll post that we are ever likely to read. Thanks.
Good to see b posting. And as usual some excellent information from the bar-flies.
I’m inclined to believe that the history of Soviet famines has been politicised by both anti-communist and anti-Russian propagandists. As a none expert I’m aware that the 31/32 famine and the liquidation of the Kulaks was not confined to Ukrainian SSR ie it wasn’t specifically anti-Ukrainian, and the argument that it was has been manufactured by the Bandera cult. This is why a world class dip shit and Banderite supporter, Liz Truss went to the Ukrainian capital in January 2022 and laid a wreath in memory of the ‘Holodomor’ but she didn’t make any similar memorial gesture to victims of the Holocaust at Babin Yar despite it being located in the centre of Kyiv.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Apr 5 2023 14:28 utc | 208

Related?????
YEKATERINBURG, April 5. /TASS/. The married couple detained for spying for Ukraine at a defense-sector enterprise in Nizhny Tagil have confessed to handing over blueprints to Ukrainian special services in exchange for approximately 100,000 rubles (1,270 US dollars), according to a video of their interrogation released by the Russian Federal Security Service’s (FSB) Sverdlovsk Region Directorate on Tuesday. “Yes, blueprints,” the woman said when asked what kind of data she shared. She said that they had been paid around 100,000 rubles. The Sverdlovsk Region resident were detained by FSB officers in the course of a special operation. A criminal case has been opened on high treason charges (article 275 of the Russian Criminal Code). A search of their residence turned up “items used for spying activities.”.

Posted by: Jo | Apr 5 2023 14:30 utc | 209

james, have you heard this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpFo_E9Fq2k

Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2023 14:39 utc | 210

Posted by: Anthony | Apr 5 2023 14:23 utc | 201
re: Andrei Martyanov
Hear, hear! So glad to know that there are others who find these savage attacks on Martyanov deeply objectionable. Cowardly, too. Using this blog as a platform to eviscerate the owner of another blog is sneaky and contemptible. Don’t like Martyanov’s point of view? Don’t read his blog. Spare the rest of us your hateful attacks.

Posted by: Mexicana | Apr 5 2023 14:44 utc | 211

207 – Well, I live a lot nearer the line of contact than Martyanov does, and it was no act of heroism of his to call Tatarsky a scumbag after his murder.
If I am ever by Seattle way, I will drop in on the naval expert and say hi.

Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 5 2023 14:59 utc | 212

Posted by: Mexicana | Apr 5 2023 14:44 utc | 207
Absolutely correct. Could never understand those people who can’t just stop reading or watching something that they don’t agree with and then have to make certain everyone knows of their displeasure. Typical narcissistic behaviour. Don’t like it, don’t read, watch, or whatever. Get your own blog or keep it to yourself.
Platform envy comes to mind. They can’t stand someone else has an opinion that other people may want to listen to, but they don’t.

Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Apr 5 2023 14:59 utc | 213

Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Apr 5 2023 14:59 utc | 209

Absolutely correct. Could never understand those people who can’t just stop reading or watching something that they don’t agree with and then have to make certain everyone knows of their displeasure. Typical narcissistic behaviour. Don’t like it, don’t read, watch, or whatever. Get your own blog or keep it to yourself.

I prefer exchange, however clumsy and poor.

Posted by: Catilina | Apr 5 2023 15:10 utc | 214

Digital Spartacus | Apr 5 2023 14:59 utc | 209
“Typical narcissistic behaviour.”
You mean like Martynov’s slander of Tatarsky and the Donbass soldiers as a whole?
(Which of course is what provoked the criticisms of Martynov in this thread, as is obvious to any non-retard.)

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 5 2023 15:16 utc | 215

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 5 2023 15:16 utc | 211
Oh dear, someone’s upset. Maybe this will induce more scenery chewing.

Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Apr 5 2023 15:20 utc | 216

The Martyanov complaints are standard issue Blackwashing rinse and repeat, caste doubt on the person brings doubt to what they say. In spite of a squeeky voice and a possible dubious background this Russian Ex-pat makes way too much sense for the TrollTeam to tolerate.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Apr 5 2023 15:22 utc | 217

@ Anthony | Apr 5 2023 14:23 utc | 201
thanks anthony.. ditto your comment!!
bevin | Apr 5 2023 14:39 utc | 206
thanks bevin… i didn’t know about this… great song and a surprise to see van morrison and levon helm singing it at the same time!

Posted by: james | Apr 5 2023 15:36 utc | 218

@ bevin – saw herb alpert last night…. the show was awesome.. i highly recommend it as i know they are playing in southen ontario later this month.. the band with him was amazing.. great show…

Posted by: james | Apr 5 2023 15:39 utc | 219

Re RFA hibernating:
The original idea of SMO was a clean and swift Putsch. No explanations about “diverting attack” can alter the catastrophic and abysmal failure. Putin was rightfully angry and displeased to the point of losing his personal mind. The sad state of the RFA and Росгвардия were glaringly manifest for all to see. The necessary purging of corruption and thieving must take time. It can not be completely done in a year.

Posted by: Catilina | Apr 5 2023 15:40 utc | 220

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 5 2023 0:45 utc | 129
As I said, Divine Providence is active even when we don’t see it. You have said that you do not. If you believe in God, pray for it. If you don’t, perhaps read Aquinas’s 5 proofs. The most compelling of those arguments, for me, is the necessity of a Prime Mover.
Regarding the Great Depression, yes, hardship formed character—what many call the Greatest Generation. Undoubtedly. But FDR began the long American decline that was obscured by the insulation of the USA from the destruction of WWII but that we see now accelerating into urban chaos, widespread poverty, government/corporate control of everything, and polarization of American society. He did this via the federal government, inching closer to what he saw as a “middle ground” between individualism and bureaucratic management. His great diplomatic error was his belief that Stalin was also reaching toward a middle ground, which led to Yalta, Soviet control of half of Europe, and the takeover of China by Mao.
Domestically, FDR began Social Security and many other government programs, arguably beneficial at the time (which is why they were passed). But without sunset clauses, these led to LBJ’s Great Society and other social programs that have increased dependence upon government, which can’t effectively manage anything and looks only to extend and permanize power.

Posted by: Ciaran | Apr 5 2023 15:45 utc | 221

Posted by: Ciaran | Apr 5 2023 15:45 utc | 221
Programs that make the US a bit more like the rest of the developed world – can’t have that! Heck we don’t even have universal healthcare, yet too much gubment is always the problem according to some. Any sign of instability and it’s time to throw out government stabilization of the economy, makes sense. Instead we need more neofeudalism – that will fix everything.

Posted by: JMW | Apr 5 2023 15:56 utc | 222

Agent K. Downer. The Aussie aid to east Timor filled with bugs. ‘National interest’ coupled to corruption.
Cambodia rips down an Aussie aid naval building. Much screaming and tearing of hair. Another five eyes listening post taken out.
Journalists that work for mainstream media.. none are innocent. they bear much of the responsibility for the US led death and destruction we have seen in the last three decades.
That clown arrested in Russia – he works for the five-eyes propaganda machine. Some idiot drug mule. A consumable.
Martyanov… he brings maths to warfare like no one else. My thoughts on the recent bombing and his response to it I wrote at his blog.
Something that really strikes me though that is so common in the west is the racism towards China. I see it in those about me and many Americans and British. Evil communism? they put it down to that but it goes back much further. Here in Australia, Lambing Flat. US also would have had its moments of glory in its goldrush days.
A great fear of the unknown. The culture so different from the west, from what we know and understand. It was only late in life I traveled to Asia and China. Too late.I would have liked to have gone back and traveled a lot more. If I go somewhere I don’t go on some planned idiot tourist package.
Doc Campbell, I watch a number of his videos on the vaccine fraud. He brings up solid stuff rather than US contrails. Works with some African nations ect. But when it comes to China, the one country that has done more for its people than any other, he starts raving and virtually frothing at the mouth so I have switch him off. Douglas Macgregor the same.
It is a childish thing, the fear of the unknown.
The bigger picture in Ukraine is the defeat of Nato. US terrorist bombings have been going on for decades. I don’t bother looking for daily updates on Ukraine now. Russia has Nato locked in its own trap. Wagners numbers what 30,000, 50,000, they are defeating nato. Apart from some parratroops fighting alongside wagner, the Russian military has not swung into action yet.
The war against China. It seems likely US will be defeated in Ukraine. But who knows, they are monkeys running about with grenades.
This last month, de dollarization of world trade has hit top gear. A lot of US dollars going home to roost. Ukraine/Bakhmut is the Russian noose and the US dollar is the chair the US is standing on. Russia is now kicking the legs off that chair.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 5 2023 16:41 utc | 223

Posted by: Ciaran | Apr 5 2023 15:45 utc | 221
i dont think you can logically prove the existence of god, any more than i can logically disprove that god exists. we’ll just have to disagree on that.
social security was good then and good now, and the problem with LJB’s great society is the he didn’t push for it, started walking it back even as it passed. it did not cause social decline, the war on unions and the middle class did that, starting in the 50’s.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 5 2023 16:48 utc | 224

Posted by: james | Apr 5 2023 15:39 utc | 219
Holy shit i had no idea he was still alive, let alone touring.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 5 2023 16:49 utc | 225

@Down South #169
As well as ‘collectivization’ of agriculture the other key policy, as I’ve noted before on this blog since I moved from years of lurking to participating, was ‘industrialization’ … the latter essential to defeating Fascism a decade or so later .. which was a phenomenal achievement in terms of upgrading industrial capabilities … and now back behind the Urals again …
Western Europe fails to acknowledge this debt to Stalin …. this is not to hide the brutal internal aspects of Stalin’s reign in the 1930s – especially for original Bolshevik intellectuals …

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2023 16:51 utc | 226

I pop in to A. Martyanov every now and then …
… and I usually LEARN something. I also chuckle at times …
… as I do here …
… otherwise why waste my time.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 5 2023 16:58 utc | 227

rjb1.5 | Apr 4 2023 20:34 utc | 89

Posted by: Arrnon | Apr 4 2023 19:38 utc | 76
only India and China spend more on their MILITARIES than the US does on its goddam PRISON system.

Amusing !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 5 2023 18:46 utc | 228

I can’t help wondering what would happen if Russia agreed to release him in exchange for the unconditional release of Julian Assange, Daniel Hale, and Leonard Peltier.
Since we’re speaking about political prisoners and such.

Posted by: Elizabeth Burton | Apr 5 2023 18:46 utc | 229

bevin@206

If Russia ‘does the right thing’ and Assange gets the run of eurasia in freedom it will speak volumes to the rest of the world.

The USUK would rather bite off their tongues than release Julian Assange, in exchange against whoever. Depending on his state of health, he would either give interviews on his long time in captivity, or it would be obvious to everyone that he was psychologically tortured and has suffered lasting damage. A barfly posted a recent picture of him – looks terrible. In either case, he would be a walking witness to their (and Sweden’s and Australia’s) crimes.

Posted by: grunzt | Apr 5 2023 19:32 utc | 230

Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2023 14:17 utc | 204

There’s not much chance of a reasonable dialogue with someone as arrogant as you.

I’m not the ideologue here.

But let’s try. In the sense that they were hoarders and usurers, you are right: the behaviour of many kulaks was incompatible with Communist ideology.

The weren’t eliminated because they were hoarders they were eliminated because the very existence of the Kulaks was incompatible with Communist ideology. Even if they didn’t hoard they still would have been eliminated.

Of course it was also incompatoble with almost every other ideology: holding grain off the market toincreae profits at a time of famine is Crime #1 in almost all societies

They were liquidated before the famine took place. The last of the Kulaks were eliminated in 1931. The famine took place in 1932/33.
The rest of your comment is waffle.

Its a complex thing-

There is nothing complex about it. When you eliminate en masse due to ideological reasons your commercial farmers and replace them with Party Commisars the result is famine. A Great Famine no less.

I know it is hard for anti-communist ideologists to keep their tempers in check as they look at Soviet history through the distorting lenses of Conquest, Applebaum, Snyder style lies, but it needs to be done.

More waffle and bluster. The central cause of the Great Famine was Communist ideology. Stalin made it clear that the mere existence of a Kulak was incompatible with Soviet ideology.

Posted by: Down South | Apr 5 2023 19:40 utc | 231

pretzelattack | Apr 5 2023 17:44 utc | 42

Posted by: AnotherBoringShow | Apr 5 2023 17:40 utc | 40
the fish goes senile from the top.

That is very good, unfortunately, it doesn’t really work because the fish has been rotting from the head for decades . . . if not more.

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 5 2023 22:32 utc | 232

William Gruff | Apr 5 2023 17:51 utc | 47

I wonder which is worse: giving someone money to buy their silence over some seedy dealings or demanding money to buy silence about something potentially embarrassing?
Looks to me like the one who should be on trial is the porno tart.

Hold on thar, podner ! Billionaire ‘seduces’ minor porn star into illicit relationship, mmm, where is the power there ?
He throws her some green, STFU “miss”, and carries on . . .
Who the fuck do you think you are ?

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 5 2023 22:40 utc | 233

Ah merde !
Got confused, posted comments on the wrong thingy, ah, well, who cares ?
Sorry.

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 5 2023 22:51 utc | 234

Down South@231
I have more interesting things to do than shouting at an idiot with a hearing problem.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2023 23:58 utc | 235

grunzut 196; AI is going to be any real threat anytime soon, just as self driving cars aren’t really happening; there are classic philosophical issues, like no logical system has been able to define knowledge in 3000 years of trying. AI is going to be pretty limited till we fix this 3000 year old riddle. Epistemology, Linguistics, no one is talking to them about AI, they know better; look what Chomsky says about AI

Posted by: scottindallas | Apr 6 2023 4:34 utc | 236

Pretzel and Ciriian, FDR and LBJ didn’t cause the decline, and it wasn’t a war on unions in the 50’s; it was Reagan/Thatcher economics. Ending the progressive tax code. The progressive tax code encourages industrialism, “low taxes” punish real industry and favors finance and well connected professionals, that is a tax on the economy sure as gov’t’ those paper pusher produce literally nothing yet take all the gains, that’s a tax

Posted by: scottindallas | Apr 6 2023 4:56 utc | 237

Downs 231; funny you didn’t learn about the dust bowl of the 30’s; there weren’t even Kamisars involved, but it happened here, what US gov’t policy did to OK created an vast famine; it was recorded in the Grapes of Wrath; perhaps you missed it. It was ironically also caused by financialization of the economy, “low taxes” or “trickle down” policies. When FDR adopted the progressive income taxes of Sen James Couzens, CFO and co-founder of Ford, industrialist that devised the $5 workday and 5 day work week; that stabilized banks, created the largest middle class and industrial base; till Reaganomics and Clinton helped do that in China

Posted by: scottindallas | Apr 6 2023 5:04 utc | 238

Personally, my beef with Martyanov was his idea that citizens of the US are any less Russophobic than citizens of European nations, as if both sides of the Atlantic weren’t fed with the same Atlanticist Russophobic propaganda since WWII. I didn’t realize that there was more to it than just that.
(Some have politely advised anyone of us who disagree with Martyanov to just simply not read his blog. And that’s what I’ve been doing, notwithstanding the commentary of a Disquser I frequently follow.)
At least one reader of one of his posts has called him out.

You are too cynical regarding Europe Mr. Martyanov. The vassals don’t have much choice, our only hope is that the US will be weakened enough for us to break free. In the meantime, there are quite a few backdoor deals running (like Germany buying oil from “Kazakhstan” via russian pipelines etc.). Not easy when there is a boot on your neck and 100k american soldiers on your soil like in Germany.
Just FYI, I’m not some brainwashed French or bootlicking German, I live in the EU but come from Yugoslavia and was on the receiving side of NATO bombs both as a civilian and as a soldier, so certainly no love for the crazy EU elites. But let me tell you, more than half of the “small” people here do NOT support the warmongering traitors nor the current political course. We have no power, even those several millions of French fighting like lions can’t change a thing about the sh*tty pension grab, let alone bigger issues. Our elections are a joke. You should try being a real orthodox christian and show some compassion instead of putting us all in the same basket with the ~5% of crazies in power. Especially since you’re not doing any better in the US, despite having 300+ mio. guns in private hands and all that empty talk about freedom and democracy. Your position over there is infinitely stronger and even so, you can’t do sh*t about whatever your ruling clique is doing. Lead by example maybe? Until then, compassion instead of hate would be much better.

Catharsis to me is when someone pulls a “Shut up Gringo” and teaches the USA resident, in his ivory tower, not to act so high and mighty.

Posted by: joey_n | Apr 6 2023 9:03 utc | 239

Glad and relieved you’re back b….this community you’ve created is important

Posted by: Steve | Apr 6 2023 10:09 utc | 240

> White House denies Evan Gershovitch is a spy.
> Literally no evidence he was one.
> “He’s probably CIA though, he tried to interview russians!”
Amazing take, b. Very insightful.

Posted by: Aaaron | Apr 6 2023 12:58 utc | 241

Aaaron | Apr 6 2023 12:58 utc | 241
As if they are going to admit anything. I would be surprised if he had spy on his business cards or listed the CIA as his past or present employer on his CV. What else would they say? Who believes them? I think it was the late and lamented Claude Cockburn who said something like “don’t believe anything until it has been officially denied”.

Posted by: ZimZum | Apr 6 2023 13:53 utc | 242

@ joey_n | Apr 6 2023 9:03 utc | 239
thanks joey.. that is fair.. i agree with the sentiment in the letter you shared..

Posted by: james | Apr 6 2023 15:48 utc | 243

What i dont understand why so much barking on this arest of the WSJ reporter, definitively this reporter tried to find out information that constitutes State Secrets related to the production of armaments and ammunition… What amazes me is the fact that Larry Johnsson compares this case with Assange’s case..he says that if you support this case that means we support Julian Assange’s arrest by the UK at the insistence of the US…I CANNOT UNDERSTAND how LJ can defend the CIA/NSA when he alone tells us how far these agencies have fallen. what LJ doesn’t seem to understand or doesn’t want to understand is the fact that Russia is at war with the US and that Russia has laws that clearly specify that this information is prohibited from publication.

Posted by: Steffen OPPENHEIMER | Apr 6 2023 18:31 utc | 244

@Sys ATI | Apr 4 2023 15:02 utc | 8
Perhaps they were blown away by a windvane?

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 9 2023 17:49 utc | 245

@Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 4 2023 21:07 utc | 100
It was a beautiful country that benefitted greatly from it’s neutrality. One can pity it’s population that had nothing to do with this move, but will pay the price.

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 9 2023 17:52 utc | 246

@ZimZum | Apr 6 2023 13:53 utc | 242
Cockburn said it, but others pioneered the expression.
Never Believe Anything Until It Is Officially Denied at Quote Investigator.

Posted by: Hermit | Apr 9 2023 17:59 utc | 247