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April 25, 2023
Biden Prepares To Give Up On Ukraine

The much ballyhooed Ukrainian 'counteroffensive' is destined to fail its purpose of severing Russia's supply line to Crimea and to liberate 'occupied territory'. The Biden administration has finally recognized this and is out to lower expectations and to preemptively blame everyone but itself.

The first to be briefed was Politico:

Biden’s team fears the aftermath of a failed Ukrainian counteroffensive
Behind closed doors, the administration worries about what Ukraine can accomplish.

The New York Times joined in:

Ukraine’s Spring Offensive Comes With Immense Stakes for Future of the War
Without a decisive victory, Western support for Ukraine could weaken, and Kyiv could come under increasing pressure to enter serious peace talks to end or freeze the conflict.

From the Politico piece:

Publicly, President Joe Biden’s team has offered unwavering support for Ukraine, pledging to load it up with weapons and economic aid for “as long as it takes.” But, if the impending fighting season yields limited gains, administration officials have expressed privately they fear being faced with a two-headed monster attacking it from the hawkish and dovish ends of the spectrum.

One side will say that Ukraine’s advances would’ve worked had the administration given Kyiv everything it asked for, namely longer-range missiles, fighter jets and more air defenses. The other side, administration officials worry, will claim Ukraine’s shortcoming proves it can’t force Russia out of its territory completely.

That doesn’t even account for the reaction of America’s allies, mainly in Europe, who may see a peace negotiation between Ukraine and Russia as a more attractive option if Kyiv can’t prove victory is around the corner.

The Times offers less drama:

While Ukrainian officials have said their goal is to break through dug-in Russian defenses and create a widespread collapse in Russia’s army, American officials have assessed that it is unlikely the offensive will result in a dramatic shift in momentum in Ukraine’s favor.

Ukraine’s military faces many challenges — one reason that a stalemate remains the most likely outcome. Fighting in Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine this winter has drained ammunition reserves and led to heavy casualties in some experienced units.

Back to Politico which draws the bigger picture. If Ukraine proves incapable of doing what the Pentagon had planned for it it will be pushed into a 'ceasefire' which is hoped to become a permanent solution. The Biden administration will then leave the Ukraine issue behind and fixate on its next big target  -  China:

Biden and his top aides have publicly stressed that Zelenskyy should only begin peace talks when he is ready. But Washington has also communicated to Kyiv some political realities: at some point, especially with Republicans in control of the House of Representatives, the pace of U.S. aid will likely slow. Officials in Washington, though not pressing Kyiv, have begun preparing for what those conversations could look like and understand it may be a tough political sell at home for Zelenskyy.

“If Ukraine can’t gain dramatically on the battlefield, the question inevitably arises as to whether it is time for a negotiated stop to the fighting,” said Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations. “It’s expensive, we’re running low on munitions, we’ve got other contingencies around the world to prepare for.”

“It’s legitimate to ask all these questions without compromising Ukraine’s goals. It’s simply a question of means,” Haass said.

Neither Ukraine nor the supporting NATO countries have the means to extend the war. The original, archived Politico piece read:

The fighting has taken a toll on the Ukrainians as well. Fourteen months into the conflict, the Ukrainians have suffered staggering losses — around 100,000 dead — with many of their top soldiers either sidelined or exhausted. The troops have also gone through historic amounts of ammunition and weaponry, with even the West’s prodigious output unable to match Zelenskyy’s urgent requests.

The corrected later version replaced 'dead' with 'casualties'. While the first version was a nearly correct but too low count the new version is far off the mark. The total casualties are a multiple of 100,000.

Still – the Biden crew knows that the end is coming:

U.S. officials have also briefed Ukraine on the dangers of overextending its ambitions and spreading its troops too thin — the same warning Biden gave then-Afghan President Ashraf Ghani as the Taliban moved to sweep across the country during the U.S. military withdrawal in 2021.

Zelensky has, like Ashraf Ghani, made enough money from the war and is expected to silently move out. But for now it seems unlikely that he is willing to do so.

The alternative to giving up is for the U.S. to escalate again by putting boots on the ground. But Biden wants to win his reelection fight and any further escalation of the war in Ukraine would likely prevent that.

Comments

Posted by: Chris | Apr 25 2023 15:52 utc | 100
Toxic Immasculinity
Piano

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 25 2023 15:58 utc | 101

Perhaps as RFK’s VP? Some months ago, I watched his extended sit-down with RFK about his battles with big-pharma, vaccines, GM foods, and pandemic political corruption. It was quite inspiring. Their affinity and synergy were palpable.
Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 25 2023 15:50 utc | 99
That would be one, yes. Tulsi perhaps another, I am no expert there. The election is still almost 1.5 years away, 1.5 years ago Biden had just gotten started tearing down the temple around him.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 25 2023 16:00 utc | 102

Slavyangrad reports a quote from Syrsky that Bakhmut must be held or the Ukr. army would collapse. So, the meat grinder continues and worse if it involves the best troops Ukr has being thrown in. The numbers cited for Ukr troop reserves to be used in a counteroffensive are nearly meaningless – if they don’t have heavy arms. Human wave attacks? Banzai charges? A million Chinese blowing bugles in North Korea?
I thought they would invade Transnistria because it looks so vulnerable and impossible to defend. They didn’t. I am inclined to think that they couldn’t, actually. Kill off the punishers and who knows what happens to Ukraine.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 25 2023 16:02 utc | 103

This phase of the conflict is The Battle for the Black Sea. Ukraine must push South and take Crimea to be successful. Russia will move West to block them and continue to take Odessa and the rest of the access to the Black Sea. That will leave them holding the cards for negotiations. Ukraine would have to ship through Russia to cheaply get their products to the Mediterranean Sea. All other routes send all of their products through expensive overland paths through other countries.
Taking that Western area will also make it easy for Russia to claim territory that borders Transistria.
If they care to, Russia could then start negotiations holding almost all of the important cards.

Posted by: barstool | Apr 25 2023 16:04 utc | 104

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 25 2023 16:02 utc | 103
By last information, Bakhmut is reduced to some blocks (west of the rail line already by several hundred meters?) and Ukraine lost Khromove. The thing with this town is that the UKR controlled area of Bakhmut gets smaller, which makes artillery concentration continuously more effective, resulting more losses per salvo and faster losing.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 25 2023 16:07 utc | 105

Spring/summer campaigns are still unclear, what will happen as fresh formations, not exposed to bloody war yet, enter the field. Last summer, Russia had “layered artillery” that was effective up to a point, but crumbled because the lines of control did not have enough trenches, boots and mines. By some reports, they fixed all three aspects, Ukraine fixed some of theirs…
Biden administration is in a bind. They cannot flood Ukraine with weapons, and they cannot resort to “ah, never mind”. Ever important political calendar requires to have something nice to show by the summer of 2024, preferably earlier. How much will Ukraine bleed until then?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 25 2023 16:08 utc | 106

It is a depressing assessment of the American public if it is true that they would vote against Biden if the war in Ukraine stopped. If it is true that Americans are that blood-thirsty and immoral, than they deserve any consequences they get.
But I highly doubt that any decisions are made with elections in mind. American elections are rigged, from the selection of the candidates to the “news” coverage of the campaigns to the counting of the votes.
Will they actually put Biden up again? That would be an insult to the American public and the world, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t do it.
I thought that they would get rid of Biden after the first farcical impeachment in 2019, when the narrative told was that he was the front runner, therefore Trump asking about the status of the prosecution was going, and briefly stopping arms to the Kiev regime, (or so they claimed), was somehow “election interference”.
Biden the “front runner”? What kind of absolute nonsense were they spinning? No one would vote for that senile old corrupt pedophile. Who wrote this script? Surely once the impeachment was over they would drop that ridiculous line.
And yet…..
I have learned that I am unable to predict what our insane ruling overlords will do next, so I won’t try.
I will only point out that they badly want Russia’s resources. If they fail in Ukraine they will try something else.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 25 2023 16:14 utc | 107

Biden Prepares To Give Up On Ukraine

Martyanov has been right from the beginning. The target of the Ukraine war is and has always been Europe.
The gas pipelines that provided cheap gas that made European industry highly competitive have been destroyed. Gas is now 4 times more expensive (last I checked) than the US forcing European industries to relocate to the US. An Iron Curtain 2.0 has been raised keeping Europe firmly away from Russia and under the thumb of the Anglo Americans. European weapons inventories have been depleted leaving Europe wholly dependent on the US for protection. The Anglos cracked the whip and EU leaders are fully back in line.
The conflict has served its purpose and the Anglo Americans have achieved their goals. Time to move on.

Posted by: Down South | Apr 25 2023 16:16 utc | 108

@87
mahan is a favorite of us navy advocates and late 19th century proponents of U.S. empire including teddy Roosevelt.
preferred doctrine was naval power could encircle the heartland…..
Roosevelt saw us navy taking over for royal navy…..
continues to keep us navy funded up to usaf

Posted by: paddy | Apr 25 2023 16:16 utc | 109

political calendar requires …
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 25 2023 16:08 utc | 106

“On January 19, the US gross national debt hit the debt ceiling, set by Congress at $31.4 trillion.”
https://wolfstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/US-Gross-National-Debt-2023-04-03-short_.png
The US Government has more problems than the outcome of its next election.
See also ==> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-24/biden-mccarthy-locked-in-debt-standoff-with-new-deadline-on-tap
The US has to borrow to pay for its proxy war. From whom? At what rate?

Posted by: too scents | Apr 25 2023 16:19 utc | 110

Apparently CNN did not get the message to tone down the copium. Saw this on front page online. Must different faction giving CNN headlines to write up.
“Ukraine military claims impressive results against Russia in Kherson.”
Previously the headline claimed major Russian loses of equipment and people. Clink the link and goes to different headline.

Posted by: Erelis | Apr 25 2023 16:22 utc | 111

The war will continue for years becaus the aim of the US Gov is to have constant war between Russia and …who ever is stupid and corrupt enough to die for the US Gov.
War is System-immanent in the capitalist System (as we say in Germany). It in the more ca. 250 years of US history only 16 years the US was not involved in a war. So as long as the US – System exists, peace is an exceptional status in the world.

Posted by: victim of war | Apr 25 2023 16:23 utc | 112

@Don 78
Sorry Don, there are Russian Solntsepek units just itching for the ukros to mass for an attack. If anyone should frag their officers it’s those Ukrainian soldiers still alive after being fed into the Artymovsk meat grinder for the past year.

Posted by: Fred777 | Apr 25 2023 16:24 utc | 113

What I find amusing is the assumption that Russia will be interested in negotiations on terms Washington or Keev would offer. Lavrov has characterized the U.S. as non-agreement-capable, and Russia has a clear upper hand right now which they would be well advised to press IMO.
At this point if ‘the west’ wants peace, it will have to be a peace that favors Russia. And that is the sticking point for ‘the west’. If it is an inconceivable outcome for our ‘leaders’, Russia might as well carry on.
What sort of peace offer might be an actual inducement for Russia to accept peace? Well, if I was Russia the minimum I would consider is:
-retain all regions that have voted to join Russia,
-free votes in each remaining Ukrainian oblast on future status with the choice being independence, joining Russia, or staying with a newly constituted Ukraine;
-formal agreement from NATO that no more states closer to Russia will be admitted and that certain types of destabilizing weapons will not be posted in NATO states admitted since 199?;
-a new government and constitution in Ukraine, outlawing Naziism, committing to neutrality, and limiting military capabilities;
-indemnity against specious legal persecution of Russian citizens for events during the conflict;
-investigation of crimes by the Kiev regime and its agents between 2014 and 2022; and
-release and remediation of all Russian assets frozen, seized or damaged by NATO members since February 2022.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Apr 25 2023 16:24 utc | 114

The articles are the Biden Admin’s plan B.
Of course there are doubters, but plenty of people in D.C. believe Ukraine can achieve something with their 12 new armor brigades. The absence of a notable winter or spring offensive by Russia suggests they did already – Russia has been hanging back waiting to absorb the blow. And delay works to Ukraine’s advantage because Putin is reluctant to call up more troops, and their contracts are always counting down.
Russian Air Force in the mix is interesting to me. Did the Iskander strike on the Georgian legion actually happen ?

Posted by: GoFast | Apr 25 2023 16:33 utc | 115

A hundred guys with atgm and manpads have combat potential unprecedented in wars history.
Interesting. Ask ISIS how did that go.
FAB 1500 Glide Arial Bomb thermobaric ordinance fused to explode 100 meters above the ground sanitizes approximately 6 soccer fields.
Than there are FAB 3000, FAB 5000, and FAB 9000. Also with various effects on the target and combat/deter/stand-off purposes.
Pushing Ukraine to go for a direct walk to a hell-road, while being officially physically absent on the battlespace is a most cowardly and despicable act by the “Combinated West” ever since they left caves and tried to build a civilization.
A voluntary self-inflicted genocide hypnotized by very wrong values.
Question is how the Western capitulation will look like?

Posted by: whirlX | Apr 25 2023 16:36 utc | 116

Zelinsky and his cast of scammers have played Biden and his Euro idiots like a grand piano. They’ll be off with all the loot and everyone else will be stuck with western Ukraine full of morons, psychos and unemployed. Slavi Ukraini!
Of course Russia will take its fair share to let them go.
That’s what I call ‘stalemate’.

Posted by: TheRealRightway | Apr 25 2023 16:39 utc | 117

Lex Talionis no. 101
I wonder if he regrets making those videos. (Or if he even remembers.) I guess all the nato mob like them.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 25 2023 16:39 utc | 118

Question is how the Western capitulation will look like?
Posted by: whirlX | Apr 25 2023 16:36 utc | 116
i hope it looks like Zelensky desperately trying to hang on to a rope ladder dangling from the last helicopter leaving.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 25 2023 16:40 utc | 119

Russia has achieved the goals of the SMO, to deplete Nato weaponry, to deplete USUKIS economic unipolarity, to question the legality if all Nato expansionist, to destroy Ukrainuan neoNazism, to secure Rusdian speaking allies, to oermanently change European Russophobic politics, to expose Usukis Russophobia as an existential threat to world peace.
There is no way that USUKIS can continue poking the bear after losing militarily on the battlefield. Poland , like Turkey in Syria has been exposed as a warmonger.
Britain has been exposed as a piece of toilet paper.
Nobody in the US is going to start any kind of war with China. All that will happen is that goods which now come by sea will come by train in future. The US will pay VAT instead of making money out China.
It us now up to the US, UK and Apartheid occupied Palestine to sort out their democracies one vote per person in universal suffrage regardless of Algorithms, Race, Religion or privilege.
Democracy at least deserves a try in the the lands of oft-repeated losers.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 25 2023 16:41 utc | 120

Question is how the Western capitulation will look like?
Posted by: whirlX | Apr 25 2023 16:36 utc | 116

Imagine the Israeli settlers that can not buy a crust of bread without the unearned income that derives from Western fictionalization needing to sell down their real assets to make ends meet.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 25 2023 16:42 utc | 121

To those who favor a sort of eternal conflict with Russia in Ukraine, I have to ask, who would pick up the tab for that? Would the IMF. US and EU forgive a huge number of loans? Who pays $5 billion a month ( plus $ for more weapons) to prop up the Ukr government? Will Russia bomb agricultural tractors that might be used to haul armor? Will spring planting get done in any case? By who, pensioners? Can they stop more young people from running away from a ruined nation? In the next couple of years, would the EU look at more Ukr. war and say, ‘yeah, we’re up for that’.
Is Poland going to get stuck with propping up Ukraine? and it’s debts? You know, the folks who keep demanding EU cash and German reparations?
I still don’t see how Russia grabs Odessa but if they did, Ukraine would be nearly powerless. No ports.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 25 2023 16:43 utc | 122

Western fictionalization
correction: too scents | Apr 25 2023 16:42 utc | 121

Western financialization // basically the same thing.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 25 2023 16:48 utc | 123

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Apr 25 2023 16:39 utc | 118
If there is anything I think Zelensky regrets doing in front of an audience and some cameras is calling for a ceasefire in Donbas during his acceptance speech.
slava whatever.
geroim mumble mumble.

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 25 2023 16:50 utc | 124

The Chinese don’t operate like that.
They put fentanyl on the US border.
Much deadlier than missiles …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 25 2023 15:10 utc
# 70
Deploying Fentanyl as a chemical weapon as well as the illegal aliens who smuggle the Fentanyl into the United States is not only deadlier than missiles but safer. The United States isn’t going to retaliate against Mexico much less China. The US isn’t even going to finish the border wall to keep the Fentanyl out much less deploy armed troops along the border with orders to shoot to kill.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Apr 25 2023 16:55 utc | 125

@Petri Krohn | Apr 25 2023 14:05 utc | 41

Russian propaganda and Russian disinformation are codewords U.S intelligence uses for truth, particularly unwanted truth.

Maybe I am wrong:

Dedollarization Is Chinese Propaganda?Gonzalo Lira — Again

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 25 2023 16:57 utc | 126

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 25 2023 14:15 utc | 43

US power is in full collapse.

The likely replay of a Biden/Trump election farce is the proof of your assertion, democracy, the US most pushed export product is reduced to a pathetic contest of two rotten, old, ignorant and corrupt clowns. Brezhnev, Andropov and Chernenko look bright and spirited if compared to that roster, and we know how that ended.

Posted by: Paco | Apr 25 2023 17:02 utc | 127

@116 it went extremely well for Isis. They destroyed syrias vast armored forces and nearly took it all before russia stabilized it to hold the best bits, before the US seized the eastern oil fields.
In Iraq they overran mosul. Iraqi society had to mobilize a new army the pmu to fight them at great cost, with Iranian assistance as well.
So did isis conquer the countries? No but they destroyed their armies and forced their allies to rescue them at a huge cost.
So, well, yeah ask isis indeed. Or just read the battlefield reports daily for years and then you’d know.
Atgm and manpads are to vehicles what machine guns were to cavalry in www1.
First they killed them all and then spurred innovations to counter act them.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 25 2023 17:08 utc | 128

Interesting news that coincide with January releases from RAND and CSIS including the acknowledgment that the Western proxy Ukraine has become a tapeworm of the West, eating up all of their military stocks and wearying it. So Russia sucks and lays the NATO dry within Ukraine. Accordingly, from the Russian point of view, this result should be expressed in peace negotiations so that a sustainable reform of Europe’s security structures with guarantees can follow.

Incentives would have to be given to Kyiv: perhaps NATO-like security guarantees, economic help from the European Union, more military aid to replenish and bolster Ukraine’s forces, and the like. And aides have expressed hope of re-engaging China to push Putin to the negotiating table as well.

That’s still a lot of fantasy framework. The Western public is poorly informed of a number of events, notably the April 2022 event that Bennett described in crushing a negotiated settlement by Anglo Saxons. Russia will probably not agree on any kind of ceasefire during possible negotiations, but will want to make steady progress on the front line. Such measures from a Russian point of view will be instrumentalized in the West as well as against China for preparing the next phase of chaos. Shocked and loaded with all the “great concerns”, the West will portray Russia as a pariah who never wanted to negotiate and that you could not negotiate with Putin. Most Sanctions are likely to remain in place (to domesticate europe) or they might develop as a key negotiating tool for the West to lure Moscow.

If the counteroffensive does not go well, the administration has only itself to blame for withholding certain types of arms and aid at the time when it was most needed,” said Kurt Volker, the special envoy for Ukraine during the Trump administration.

I guess, europe and germany might be targets for bigger blaming games. Anyway, nice to hear from Volker again. I remember his words (clicking “Read More” on Kyiv Post will trigger a security warning on your pc, no kidding) back in 2019.

So-called People’s Republics in Donbas should be eliminated.

Volker was referring to the assurance of cooperation to the Donbas-People on the Ukrainian constitution in Minsk2 as well as the status of an autonomy as a result of a decentralized constitutional reform in Ukraine. Perhaps in the West a chain reaction of “autonomy” was feared in Ukraine, which would reach from Charkiv to Odessa following on the successful Donbass model, so that Russia would have achieved the destruction of Ukraine as part of a democratic declaration of the will of the people – and without any kind of Russian sacrifices. That is why the West called Minsk2 “a win by Putin” for several years. And that although the agreement was approved in the UN Security Council based on Western votes.
However, the war in Ukraine will continues. Such approaches by Politico and NYT are better to understand as a transition to another phase of confrontation in Asia.
The level of this challenge is constantly increasing and the time window could shrink for the US. The whole world is showing Washington how they feel about this project with their attitude towards US sanctions and the dollar. The developments in the Middle East are not only impressively positive on their own. The Middle East was a field of chaos ignited in the great game of confrontation that could be orchestrated by Russia and China together. A second phase targeted Europe and Russia.
Much points to a maximalist approach by the US in Taiwan as well. If Washington throws the world into chaos, the US should be the only safe Orbit for industry,
investement, technology and finance. In another way, the US can hardly compete with the growth market in Asia, where the patents are distributed today. They have neither their own society nor the world enough constructive to offer (not even talking about access to resources). In order to have the advantage, they have to wreak havoc on everyone else.
BUT is there any social cohesion left within US society for such a move? Can the US go to war at all? I strongly doubt that. A next proxy would be needed who bleeds for Washington for sure. Well, I usually expect the worst these days when it comes to Western mindsets. On the other hand, I see a more painful defeat of the West as an opportunity to return to realistic approaches and the necessary foundation for re-democratization of our own societies.

Posted by: Konrad | Apr 25 2023 17:13 utc | 129

Maybe Brandon will drop out late in the race due to health issues and Kamela will take over.

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 25 2023 17:14 utc | 130

b –
‘ballyhooed’ is a GREAT word!
I hope you write a book about all this one day, the real story, of what really happened, and why.
in gratitude,

Posted by: Irish | Apr 25 2023 17:17 utc | 131

@Piotr Berman | 48

And they hated being forced to Polish education and the lack of Ukrainian in the public sphere in Poland between the world wars. The outcome of putting them back under Polish rule would not be any better now.

Two observations: first, the Poles may well get around that by training violent dissenters for terrorist raids into Russia, and second, if that doesn’t work then the Poles will be forced to counter the terrorism unleashed against them with transparently draconian violence that will cause a lot of trouble between Poland, Western Europe, and the US.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 25 2023 17:17 utc | 132

All America’s intentions are irrelevant, only Russia’s intentions count.

Posted by: gT | Apr 25 2023 17:23 utc | 133

RFK Tulsi
Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 25 2023 15:50 utc | 99
Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 25 2023 16:00 utc | 102
I saw somewhere stated that there will be no primary debates for Biden. RFK should tell the DNC that he will not promise to support the winning candidate. What can they do? No debates to keep him out of. Only smears.
Tulsi would be a good vp partner, they seem ideologically close enough but she’s out of the Dem party and I don’t think the people who vote in the dem primary like her anymore. i hope he/they go independent. They could probably get support from Jimmy Dore, Joe Rogan, maybe Tucker and more. Just speculating….
I don’t think Biden will be able to physically make it along with all the corruption exposures.

Posted by: migueljose | Apr 25 2023 17:26 utc | 134

Thanks to US/NATO and their allies so-called partners, more than 300,000 servicemen from Ukraine including foreign mercenaries have perished during the SMO.

Posted by: AI | Apr 25 2023 17:29 utc | 135

It is delusional to think that west will stop supporting Ukraine on reason of money. Anos mainly England has plotted this war. But English are a coward race who plots all wars but not dare fight unless both parties are tired then English heyena will come to feast on carcass.
So English through its vassal usa will go on giving arms and BBC propaganda to Ukraine.
Only real destruction of english men and land will stop the perennial wars plotted by English parasite race.

Posted by: Sam | Apr 25 2023 17:31 utc | 136

For some reason western media is talking as if Ukraine has got any initiative in deciding a ceasefire. There’s a possibilty the offensive fails, Zelensky asks for a ceasefire and then the Russians- “No ceasefire.”
The only reason the strategic bombing stopped is because the RAF is fully focused on tactical bombing on the front. Satelite-precision-guided Bombs ranging from 500kg to 1500kg, including thermobarics, a famous russian source from the airforce said that “Now 4-3 fighters go in a sortie, in the near future 40 fighter-bombers will go simultaneously.” The airforce also has 5 ton and 9 ton tested bombs in stock. Anti-Tank guided cluster air-dropped bombs exist too.
If you think this war will end with such a kind end as a ceasefire along the current frontline you’re naive. It’s going to be complete humilation of the western faction. Russian will threaten and execute a strategic bombing campaign until full surrender or complete destruction of Ukraine’s power grid. This is a radical guess but threat of desctruction and meltdown of nuclear powerplants is also possible- Russia can “nuke ukraine without nukes”.
The current situation is extremely similiar to that in the time of World War 2, 1944, Western Europe. A bloody slow advance in Hurtgenwald with high casualities, the front line becomes static. Germans start the massive Ardennes offensive with a grand plan to cut the western allies in half and force a ceasefire (Exactly like UA’s plan to cut Crimea and Donbass and force a ceasefire too) it greatly fails and after that the allies continue to advance rapidly.
WW2 Media was also active and detailed. People from all major factions witnessed the front from theater newsreel footage. German media was extremely similar to today’s Ukraine. Even during the short Ardennes offensive Germans captured a lot of footage of German soldiers walking confidently among burning american vehicles and dead Americans soldiers and publicized it at home.

Posted by: A200 | Apr 25 2023 17:31 utc | 137

@ neofeudalfuture 128
In Syria Hillary Clinton built concrete bunkers to house Al Qaida/ Daesh. Weaponry was supplied from other warzones by USUKIS along with torture rendition crazies on US payroll and the Western media circuses.
The Nato operation against Syria was run from Turkey and Turkey and Israel attacked Syria economically, militarily, and with psyops terror in the tradition of Genghis Cohen before.
Syria was a war on Muslims by terrorists inspired by Usama bin Laden the Saudi millionaire friend of George Bush. The war on Muslims was intense. Wherever the terrorists went they fired on civilians to leave their property for them.to commandeer. Once you make takfir of a law-abiding and practising Muslim, all the normal Biblical Mosaic equivalents of the 10 commandments are destroyed. Absolute terror caused by brainwashed and non- practising non- Muslims from every corner.
Those whose evil ideologies created this system of terror, enjoyed the luxury of asylum seekers in Britain, or Istanbul etc.
Their victims were herded into refugee camps and sexually exploited by Islamist mafia.
Syria was not militarily strong and its
civilians were thrown into danger.
That’s the way USUKIS fights its proxy wars.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 25 2023 17:33 utc | 138

“”Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones.”
Then there’s Mark Twain “What I don’t know never hurt me, it’s what I know for sure that just ain’t so”.

Posted by: ian | Apr 25 2023 17:33 utc | 139

@Petri Krohn #126
I don’t know about laowhy’s (sp?) motivations but his buddy serpentza always struck me as a slimy character and he flipped to 24/7 anti PRC after he somehow (as a South African citizen) got US residency. I imagine in wouldn’t take much of the $300,000,000-$500,000,000 the US is spending per year to crank out anti-China stories to support a few “influencers” in royal style.
https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/china-news/21091-a-500-million-dollar-business-america-s-state-sponsored-anti-china-propaganda.html

Posted by: BillB | Apr 25 2023 17:33 utc | 140

@ SG 4
will Russia try a rapprochement with Western Europe … It could make sense from a geopolitical point of view and I think the Russians are actually open to a number of scenarios.
This simply does not “make sense”. Trolls like to get an early start in the comments, and you are # 4. I’m not making the accusation, but I do ask the question.
I think we onlookers can categorically rule out the possibility that Russia would accept any pause because a pause would allow the West restock its armories and restart the attacks. After the West’s tremendous lies and illegal war-mongering against Minsk 2, and because Russian leaders are not stupid, there will not be any “Minsk 3”.
It is impossible for Moscow to reach any agreements with the liars and cheaters in Paris, Berlin, London and Washington. That impasse can’t and won’t change until and unless there is entirely fresh leadership in the West who will acknowledge the dirty deeds and crimes against humanity. Fresh leadership which is agreement-capable and is prepared to start making reparations for all the damage done by previous governments of these “democracies”. Obviously and unfortunately, such leadership is years away, and a pessimist might doubt it will ever happen. Not everything has a happy ending.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Apr 25 2023 17:36 utc | 141

Shorter Don Bacon:
“Run for your lives, Moskal orcs! Run from the onslaught of the invincible Ukrainian cannon fodder, oops, war machine! But first do Mother Russia a favor and frag all of your officers!”

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 25 2023 17:36 utc | 142

Paco | Apr 25 2023 17:02 utc | 127
US most pushed export product is reduced to a pathetic contest of two rotten, old, ignorant and corrupt clowns. Brezhnev, Andropov and Chernenko look bright and spirited if compared to that roster, and we know how that ended.
I wonder which American politician will take the role of Gorbachev. Before that US needs a purge of a MIC lobby from top-down to ensure that neo-con-hegemon ideology is being defeated, marignalized and de-politicized.
Failing that, it will have pretty grim distopian look and a rough ride towards an unsustainable future.
A crashtest-dummy politics blazing around, no doubt.

Posted by: whirlX | Apr 25 2023 17:39 utc | 143

I don’t think Biden will be able to physically make it along with all the corruption exposures.
Posted by: migueljose | Apr 25 2023 17:26 utc | 134
Thank you for your comments.
I am hearing Kamala says she is going to be VP too.
I will be surprised if he (RFK Jr.)is not anathema to the DNC. Tulsi works with Tucker because she is also an outsider. Any two of the three works, but it will depend on personalities I think. RFK seems closer on policy.
Tucker & Tulsi, has a ring to it.
Biden running is itself ludicrous, with Kamala even more ludicrous, so I have to agree with you; but then it is hard to make sense of a situation which is not sensible.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 25 2023 17:39 utc | 144

Anout that RFK/Tucker Carlson dream ticket:
Democrats universally decry Carlson as a racist, and I can’t imagine that RFK Jr, whatever he might think about blacks, would be willing to sacrifice that electoral demographic.
But then, I’m not sure I’d put anything past the proud father of a Ukronazi warrior.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 25 2023 17:42 utc | 145

@ 128 neofeudalculture
isis = usa paid mercenaries.. not sure why i bother.. better to let you believe the bs you read in the western msm

Posted by: james | Apr 25 2023 17:50 utc | 146

I think a Kennedy/Gabbard ticket is more likely. (In fact, I doubt Carlson will enter politics.)

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Apr 25 2023 17:50 utc | 147

Outlets like Politico have a history of push panic heavy stories, since the sensationalism attracts readers. It’s unwarranted to construe these instances of crying wolf, with added character assassinations of Zelenskyy, into a pre-set scenario of Biden wanting to give up on anything.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Apr 25 2023 17:51 utc | 148

@ 48
Vitalhyi Makhinko says in “https://thebarricade.online/what-is-the-solution-for-western-ukrainians/” that Galicia would be better off as an independent European state. I guess the same roadmap applies to Volhyn. I listened to Roxzne by Sacher-Masoch and judging by the context of that story Galicia really belongs to an is going from Italy up to Poland and Lithuania and is culturally European. They wanted to conquer additional space to the East as they did in the current political Ukraine but that project failed a couple of times at least. I think Russia can live with an indepdndent Sestern Ukraine that is part of Europe. I think Russia would not occupy those territories anyway based on shat I read of the insurrection type killings the Soviet administration suffered in those areas.

Posted by: Richard L | Apr 25 2023 17:54 utc | 149

Figleaf23: Tulsi Gabbard isn’t a Democrat. She’d have to rejoin the Party first—and she’s a billion times more anathema to the Party than RFK Jr is.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 25 2023 17:56 utc | 150

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Apr 25 2023 17:51 utc | 148
outlets like politico are reliable purveyors of disinformation the Democratic Party wants them to push.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 25 2023 18:00 utc | 151

President Biden has a Kamala Harris problem. She is his replacement if he can no longer serve, and even loyal Democrats are unnerved by the idea of having her and her nervous giggle becoming POTUS.
At this point there’s no way he can replace her without it looking like kicking her to the curb. Maybe there’s a fantasy of Clarence Thomas’s seat on the Supreme Court opening up, and that being given to Harris, but even loyal Democrats that control the Senate would be loathe to rubber stamp such an obviously unqualified person for that position.
If Biden runs with Harris, a lot of voters that lean towards Biden would see Harris as fairly certain to replace him, and refuse to vote for that to happen.
Biden would be compelled to replace Harris with a Black woman, and thus it would be obvious he thought Harris had been terrible, and that alone would cost him support among otherwise loyal Democrats.
My theory has been that Biden will run so as to keep other Democrats from doing so, and then he’ll later drop out at a time when only an extremely well funded member of the establishment could jump in and become the nominee. Remember, there will be no debates scheduled.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 25 2023 18:00 utc | 152

“1.5 years ago Biden had just gotten started tearing down the temple around him.
Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 25 2023 16:00 utc | 102

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 25 2023 18:02 utc | 153

@ 138
The young imam of the mosque in Birmingham I attend, praised the Islamic Statecterrorists who murdered Chritians in Churches and Tourists on holidays.
I reported him to Prevent , the British terror co-ordination team forvthe promotion of proxy Islamist terror.
Thereupon for this nonsense is that Indian Imams can only conceive of Christianity as a type of Guru worship like Hinduism.
As a Christian once , I never conceived of Jesus pbuh as anything other than a prophet. They are intellectually stuck on the idea of Hinduism and have no grasp of the fact that since 1400 the Bible has been available for all to read in the English veracular, with no need for priests whatsoever.
Islamist imamsxalso make the mistake of thinking that Chritianity encourages promiscuity in the way as the Shi’a Muslims. Again they have literally no understanding of Western culture so they assume it us the as their Middle Eastern rivals without having the foggiest idea of what Christianity actually is.
British Muslims detest the English people, thinking that they are the same as the soldiers of the British Raj. All of my Muslim neighbours will start screaming at their children if they see me in my garden near their children. It’s embarrassing how these evil preconceptions are handed down through one generation to another, blindly.
The mosque has always spied on me , even after are years living here in the Asian community. Its like living in Outer Mongolia.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 25 2023 18:05 utc | 154

To be an enemy of America is dangerous. To be a friend is fatal. Henry Kissinger

Posted by: m9777 | Apr 25 2023 18:11 utc | 155

The Empire of Delusions thinks the Russians will agree to negotiate just because America asks “nicely” with their best used car salesman fake smiles pasted on their ugly pusses?
1) Denazification
2) Demilitarization
3) DeNATOfication
This is the absolute minimum acceptable to the Russians. These are the offers the Ukraine is going to have to START with to interest Russia in negotiations. To sweeten the deal the Ukrainians will likely have to agree to independence referenda (supervised by the Russians) in all of their regions.
I doubt the Nazis will let Zelensky agree to such negotiations.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 25 2023 18:11 utc | 156

Kamala will make an exit through the backdoor. Shes useless
I am pretty sure Biden (and Obama) will recruit CIA super agent Pete Buttidude to the VP task.
Hes actually very likeable by the Gen Zers (yeah gross I know)

Posted by: Comandante | Apr 25 2023 18:13 utc | 157

What I find surreal about these US Press articles is the way they keep foreshadowing scenarios without taking into consideration Russia’s intentions. They appear to have already decided that if Ukraine’s offensive fails then the US will be able to negotiate a “stalemate” settlement and the Russians will gladly accept it.
To me this is a measure of how widespread delusion and arrogance is among the community of these so called US “experts”: they do not attribute any kind of agency to Russia. What has happened up to now didn’t teach them anything. They still believe that they can decide when the war starts and when it ends and that everybody else will just acquiesce to their wishes.

Posted by: Leonardo | Apr 25 2023 18:15 utc | 158

karlof1 | Apr 25 2023 15:36 utc | 89

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 25 2023 18:15 utc | 159

@bevin | 87
Bemildred | 77
Arch Bungle | 82
YetAnotherAnon | 67
Odd. I would say that what we’re seeing today is a total confirmation that Mackinder was correct.
What Mackinder theorized was that a united Asian heartland would emerge to dominate the world economically and, potentially, militarily as well. Well, we now have that unified Asia and it’s already, just a few years in, wreaking absolute hell on the Western European and US economies. Russia’s military is proving that Atlanticist weaponry is just useless in the face of their own military might. Moreover, there’s no conceivable way that the countries of NATO are going to be able to ramp up and match Russia’s industrial capacity at any point in the near future, so that means Russia’s military is going to dominate the world for at least a decade, more likely IMO for the next three or four.
China, meanwhile, is running all over the planet making new economic deals in the global south that will, along with de-dollarization, soon enough free them from the neo-colonized status that the US has imposed on them via WTO and IMF.
Mackinder’s strategy was for Britain to control as many of the edge countries as possible so that it could both prevent a unified Asia from emerging and also control trade on the seas. The strategy worked extremely well up until WWII happened and the US decided to steal it.
The US stole the strategy, as well, following WWII, thus we got the Vietnam war, Indonesia and Japan/S. Korea as vassal states, and US involvement in the Middle East. The UK held on to its influence over India, Thailand and Malaysia (but lost Burma) by creating the Commonwealth. It was all done under the vestige of “fighting communism”, but clearly–in hindsight–what it was really about was maintaining the disunity of the Asian heartland.
Now, we have China emerging as the unifier of Asia–particularly with its OBOR/BRI initiative–and imminent de-dollarization, along with a vast network of train track that will entirely bypass seagoing trade and presto!
The Atlanticist countries’ economies are visibly evaporating at a surprisingly rapid pace.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 25 2023 18:18 utc | 160

#4
That’s exactly it! What does Russia want? The answer of course is a europe free from the nutcases in London and Washington.
How long more it takes for that to happen is anyone’s guess. The Anglo-Saxons have failed with Russia and will fail with China.
Nobody listens seriously to failures and eurasia certainly won’t entertain these imperialists anymore.
My only concern as an Irish man is where does this leave us, stuck in the middle of these failed nations, hating the English elites and a pawn of US political wankers looking for the Irish American vote.

Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Apr 25 2023 18:19 utc | 161

My analysis is fantasy, politically immature and simple yes, but it feels like an organic progression of what has come so far and what is possible next:
The “fighting season” referred to in the Politico should actually be the growing season, and the battlefields strewn with blasted out tanks and rotting bodies should be fields of green, carpeted in 3 inch sprouts right now.
Zelensky with flee with his loot.
What ever still called Ukraine is/will be sold in a fire sale – all it’s assets, including its fertile farmland, all owned by private corporate trans-national entities whose income is larger than several of the world’s nations put together, who have no loyalties to anyone or anything but their profit potential and their global power.
The physical and political vacuums left behind will be filled, with new tensions, between western mercenary armies (guns for hire drawn from the Proud Boys et al. and Svoboda et. al. and all other aspiring ultra right wing fascists needing education and training camp space and experience for their own private future purposes in their countries of origin…along with official UN peacekeepers of some sort. They won’t get along. or maybe they will. they might be the same people ultimately?
Migrant/refugee camps will be set up – run by the UN or by the private corporate entity occupiers? – and will repopulate the land, giving North Africans and Syrians and now Sudanese, amongst all the many others disturbing European sensibilities, a “legitimate” shore to aim for. And giving the occupying forces (ultimately the private corporate entities) a cheap labour source to rebuild the place into who knows what, for who knows what future purposes. Hopefully agriculture. But maybe massive penal colony prison complexes of man camps that farm out inmates all over the world for every kind of resource extraction. Anything seems to go in the privatised world out of public view. all in the name of rebuilding Ukraine, restoring Europe, protecting democracy.
Ukraine could become the first privately owned bricks and mortar secret corporate state, run by a Board of Directors manifesting the interests of its shareholders – “democracy friendly” “occupied” and “in transition” with “good future intentions”…

Posted by: Irish | Apr 25 2023 18:22 utc | 162

I got on the DNC mail list somehow with a plea from Joe.

Every generation has a moment where they have had to stand up for democracy. To stand up for their fundamental freedoms. I believe this is ours.
That is why I am running for reelection as president of the United States. If you’re with me, I hope you’ll let me explain exactly why this campaign matters so much and then consider pitching in to support it and the DNC.
When I ran in 2020, I said we were in a battle for the soul of America. We still are. The question before us now is whether we’ll have more freedoms or fewer in the years ahead. More rights, or fewer. I know what I want the answer to be.
Giving folks a little more breathing room. Making your life a little freer. This has been the work of my lifetime. And we’ve made real progress these last few years.
But, across the country, MAGA extremists are lining up to take us backward. They’re trying to gut Social Security and Medicare. They’re trying to raise prices on prescription drugs and repeal the cost-saving measures we’ve put in place for the hardworking families, all while saying we have enough money to cut taxes for the rich.
They’re telling women what health care choices they’re allowed to make. They’re telling you what books should be in your kids’ schools. And if you don’t like it, tough luck: They’re going after your right to vote, too.
But we can stop them. There is nothing beyond our capacity if we do it together. So, I am asking: Will you split $10 between our campaign and the DNC today? . . .

No foreign affairs, zilch, nada, because that’s entirely the Prez’s responsibility, don’t ya know. (Some call it autocracy.)

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 25 2023 18:23 utc | 163

LOL
the same day US MSM articles claiming “Russia in panic because of Putin arrest warrant…”
This comes out:
“South Africa wirhdraws from ICC. Putin will be able to attend BRICS meeting”
LoLz

Posted by: Comandante | Apr 25 2023 18:25 utc | 164

@ Figleaf23 114
Your “minimum” is a non-start. It needs other, harder items. It’s probably useful to consider the outlines of a settlement, not to counsel Moscow -LOL, but just to improve our understanding of the magnitude of these epochal changes.
1. Figleaf’s minimum doesn’t prevent the former Ukrainian oblasts from becoming limitrophes like the Baltic states. Indeed, these oblasts have no economic basis and would be looking to be Western puppets like the current Baltic limitrophes.
2. Russia accepting that Finland stays in NATO ? Highly doubtful because Finland made a treaty with the USSR, and with Russia as the successor state, to remain neutral forever. Well, the Finns broke the very treaty which returned Finland’s independence. So why would the Finns honor some lesser treaty with details about what kind of weapons were allowed into Finland ? How can anyone predict what kind of brand-new types of WMD’s might be invented ? If it’s bioweapons, glass vials of weaponized microbes or viruses, even the tightest inspections could not provide security. Maybe Russia should just invite the Finns to vacate the land, and then make the former Finland uninhabitable, forming a barren buffer. It might be unfair to Mother Earth, but not unfair to the Finns who broke their oath of neutrality.
3. Because NATO has no reason to exist beyond being a war-mongering organization in search of enemies, the very existence of NATO is bad for Russia and the RoW. I think the Kremlin is being incrementalist in its demands, and eventually NATO itself will cease to be.
4. “Limiting Ukraine’s military capability” ??? Why should Russia accept any Ukrainian military, ever, for any reason whatsoever?
5. You mention indemnity for Russian citizens, but you didn’t mention the longstanding Russian demand for Ukrainian war criminals be brought to justice. I hope the Kremlin adds the entire ICC to its list of war criminals.
6. You didn’t mention the rebuilding of former Ukrainian and Novorossiyan cities destroyed in the war. I don’t think the Russians want their brother Slavs to suffer, and Russia doesn’t want to bear the enormous costs of reconstruction. It’s a safe bet that if Russia ever again sells gas and oil to Europe, then the former EU nations will have to first start paying reparations for the Ukraine. I’m not an optimist. I think the Euro-trash will never be willing to die to get rid of their imposed governments; instead the former EU nations will get used to living in poverty with no future and – of course – no resources coming from Russia. So the most likely future is Russia paying to restore the Russian part of the Ukraine, and the former NATO states slowly becoming “404”.
7. Russia should demand the prosecution of all the Western elites who, since 1945, actively promoted the Nazis and a war against Russia. The criminals are a wide swathe of Western society. Academics, media editors and TV stars who were incredibly overpaid for their lying war propaganda, the lying politicians, the criminally violent police forces, and the shadowy figures of the Deep State. If those elements are not punished, then the whole sh*t-show would eventually grow back. Of course this is unacceptable for Western leaders, so it’s going to take a very long time and a great deal of suffering to get rid of the snake heads. If it happens at all.
I’ve often said that the key to understanding the “hybrid war” is to take seriously Putin’s three goals for the SMO. But I believe there is an unstated 4th goal, which is to make sure this can never happen again.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Apr 25 2023 18:28 utc | 165

Posted by: Dave Oneil | Apr 25 2023 12:15 utc | 5

The US is too invested in Ukraine to “give up on it” The media is pulling the strings on both sides


This is also how I see the near future.
However, I also believe that were the US to ease up on the throttle, it wouldn’t compromise what it has achieved so far. The main achievements being:
– An extensive and durable break of relations between Europe and Russia
– The widescale destruction of a country with very strong ties to Russia, ties that extend far beyond the concept of near-abroad.
These developments are unlikely to be reversed anytime soon. In fact, I would think that they would carry on by mere inertia.
In my opinion, the US is aiming to undermine the development of a prospective competitor. With that in mind, once the fire has caught on in one spot, it would make sense to start focusing on other areas of the Eurasian continent.

Posted by: robin | Apr 25 2023 18:29 utc | 166

Whatever the US does is becoming less relevant. The good cop China, bad cop Russia game has barely begun.

Posted by: Rae | Apr 25 2023 18:29 utc | 167

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 25 2023 18:00 utc | 151
outlets like politico are reliable purveyors of disinformation the Democratic Party wants them to push.
Actually, Politico specifically has a reputation of posting “Dems in disarray” stories that portray the Democratic party as always about to fail badly and get torn apart by its own members. The opinion of Politico among ardent Democrats is very low.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Apr 25 2023 18:31 utc | 168

Just a one-time comment.
Finishing a proxy does not make russia save.
As long as the neocons plan a decapitating nuclear first strike against russia, only a preemptinve strike against the US can provide safety or a demilitarisation of the US military industrial complex. I therefore believe,that russia will just continue quietly to prepare for that.

Posted by: antifreece | Apr 25 2023 18:36 utc | 169

@48 This is 149 with typos removed. Sorry — vision problems.
Vitalhyi Makhinko says in “https://thebarricade.online/what-is-the-solution-for-western-ukrainians/” that Galicia would be better off as an independent European state. I guess the same roadmap applies to Volhyn. I listened to Roxane by Sacher-Masoch and judging by the context of that story Galicia really belongs to an axis going from Italy up to Poland and Lithuania and is culturally European. They wanted to conquer additional space to the East as they did (maybe the politicians from Kiev and Washington used them) in the current political Ukraine but that project resulted in chaos.
I think Russia can live with an independent Western Ukraine that is part of Europe. I think Russia would not occupy those territories anyway based on what I read of the insurrection type killings the Soviet administration suffered in those areas.

Posted by: Richard L | Apr 25 2023 18:38 utc | 170

(I’m sorry for posting two times in a row.)
I could always take an article like this:
Gallup: Russia Suffers Global Rebuke After Invasion
with text like Across the 137 countries and territories that Gallup surveyed in 2022, a median of 57% said they disapprove of Russia’s leadership — a dramatic increase from 38% in 2021 and by far the highest point in Gallup’s trend dating back to 2007. as well as Out of 137 countries surveyed in 2022, majorities in 81 disapproved of Russian leadership. and construe it into a personal scenario of the world turning on Putin in contrast to the insistance that it’s the other way around.

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Apr 25 2023 18:40 utc | 171

” giving North Africans and Syrians and now Sudanese, amongst all the many others disturbing European sensibilities, a “legitimate” shore to aim for. And giving the occupying forces (ultimately the private corporate entities) a cheap labour source to rebuild the place into who knows what, for who knows what future purposes.
Posted by: Irish | Apr 25 2023 18:22 utc | 162 ”
For what purpose you ask ? For whom ? I strongly suggest you watch the following video completely with an open mind. You dont have to agree with everything thats presented, however, see if any of the information ” rings true ” to you. Others are also invited to view.
The SMO is not what is seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lovBh5u30jY

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 25 2023 18:43 utc | 172

” What I find surreal about these US Press articles is the way they keep foreshadowing scenarios without taking into consideration Russia’s intentions. They appear to have already decided that if Ukraine’s offensive fails then the US will be able to negotiate a “stalemate” settlement and the Russians will gladly accept it.
Posted by: Leonardo | Apr 25 2023 18:15 utc | 158 ”
Theres another answer to your confusion and Its fairly obvious.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 25 2023 18:46 utc | 173

Babel-17 | Apr 25 2023 18:00 utc | 152
“the Senate would be loathe to rubber stamp such an obviously unqualified person for that position”
Kamala has a deep knowledge of American politics, having served in a variety of positions under Willie Brown.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 25 2023 18:47 utc | 174

Posted by: Inkan1969 | Apr 25 2023 18:31 utc | 168
no it isn’t. politico, Daily Beast, Business Insider are some of the most reliable purveyors Biden has. if the dems want to increase fundraising, they have MSNBC and politico push the story that Trump or whoever is a great threat. I’ve never seen a comment by an “ardent democrat” bashing politico, but many such comments using it as a source.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 25 2023 18:48 utc | 175

“Why would Russia stop until the current government is gone ?
So they can rearm and come back in 5 years.”
Posted by: Kiser8 | Apr 25 2023 12:03 utc | 2
Good question, Kiser8. The Russians now know that under no circumstances can they trust any agreement with the West, and even less so with Ukraine. They will be reluctant to accept anything other than total surrender of Ukraine’s forces. That is what they meant by ‘demilitarisation’. And they will object to extreme nationalists having any leading role in post-war Ukraine. That is what they meant by ‘denazification’.
They (the Russians) may have to accept the survival of a rump quasi-nazi state centred on Lviv as the price for a truce with the West – but with a hard border.

Posted by: Coldish | Apr 25 2023 18:49 utc | 176

” British Muslims detest the English people, thinking that they are the same as the soldiers of the British Raj. All of my Muslim neighbours will start screaming at their children if they see me in my garden near their children. It’s embarrassing how these evil preconceptions are handed down through one generation to another, blindly.
The mosque has always spied on me , even after are years living here in the Asian community. Its like living in Outer Mongolia.
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 25 2023 18:05 utc | 154 ”
Silly Whitey and his altruistic delusions. Do you actually believe the ” migrants ” came to Europe to live in a peace, love, and brotherhood utopia with the indigenous Europeans ? Your Nativity has no limits it seems.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 25 2023 18:51 utc | 177

“My theory has been that Biden will run so as to keep other Democrats from doing so, and then he’ll later drop out at a time when only an extremely well funded member of the establishment could jump in and become the nominee. Remember, there will be no debates scheduled.
Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 25 2023 18:00 utc | 152 ”
Paging Mrs. Clinton. Mrs Clinton, please pick up the red phone.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 25 2023 18:53 utc | 178

Eoin Clancy | Apr 25 2023 18:19 utc | 161
I don’t think “Anglo-Saxons” have much to do with it at all. Biden, Nuland, Sunak, Macron, that German guy I can’t remember – where are all these Anglo-Saxons?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 25 2023 18:53 utc | 179

Coverage by the main stream Western news outlets of the Ukrainian war has dropped significantly. The Bud Light fiasco is moving into first place of attention. Biden is happy with that! Maybe this is why AB made such a terrible marketing “mistake”.
Yet, the USA still must take the Russians down. Otherwise, the United States Dollar (USD) will quickly lose its status of the reserve currency of the world.
So, what will Biden and company do?
The USA’s only option left is a nuclear launch against Russia. I am sure this is in the planning. And I think that planning is quite serious.
Most likely, the Russians are fully aware of this planning and know the approximate time when the USA will be ready to launch. So, the bear will launch first to gain first strike advantage.
While Americans are distracted with woke and other abominations of their decadent society, the nukes will rain down upon their land. Within one hour the USA will be destroyed by fire. Such is the fate of Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlot and Abominations of the Earth.

Posted by: young | Apr 25 2023 18:55 utc | 180

Now, we have China emerging as the unifier of Asia–particularly with its OBOR/BRI initiative–and imminent de-dollarization, along with a vast network of train track that will entirely bypass seagoing trade and presto!
The Atlanticist countries’ economies are visibly evaporating at a surprisingly rapid pace.
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 25 2023 18:18 utc | 160
Thank you for your comment.
WE drove them together. WE made it happen. Thirty years ago they were ready to be our friends. We turned it down. We had the snotty attitude.
I am sure this now is not what McKinder had in mind to do. You can say we failed to prevent it, but it appears to me we have driven the process, forced march actually, existential threat, and not even shy about it.
That said, it is certainly true that a unified Eurasia and Africa will be formidable as an “enemy”. And certainly it is a “natural” development. That does not make a theory of controlling it with agression from the outside wise.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 25 2023 18:57 utc | 181

“But, if the impending fighting season yields limited gains, administration officials have expressed privately they fear being faced with a two-headed monster attacking it from the hawkish and dovish ends of the spectrum.”
Don’t you love it when the talking heads, pundits and politicians “fear” they’re going to have to make a different decision if you guys slogging around in the mud and gore and stench of death don’t make “gains”?
Dammit! Kill kill kill!

Posted by: Swrichmond | Apr 25 2023 18:57 utc | 182

Meanwhile the world looses interest in using the $US a little more every day.
Ponder on the consequences of that for the answer to the question of where all this military conflict stoked by US will end up

Posted by: But really | Apr 25 2023 19:00 utc | 183

For those who are fantasizing about some Quixotic RFK Jr./Tucker Carlson candidacy? WILL NOT HAPPEN. It’s DOA. Big Pharma and Big MIC aren’t going to let RFK get anywhere near the Democrat nomination regime. And, third party candidates cannot win in the American electoral system.
This is going to be Trump v. Biden Part Deux. The anti-Trump sentiment on this blog is strong, bordering on TDS. It’s Anti-American, and I get it. But, nonetheless – Trump garnered 13 MILLION more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016 (75 million total) and the unique – planned – circumstances post-Covid lockdowns enabled the Democrat mail-in/harvest/central counting electoral fraud that put a corrupt, aged Crash Test Dummy into the Oval Office. A guy who is an existential threat to every life on Earth.
I would recommend all here to watch pollster Rich Baris and his “People’s Pundit” YT site for a reality check. The Electoral College reigns supreme in American Presidential elections and Trump is THE ONLY Republican nominee who can attract a Populist, multi-racial and class constituency that would not otherwise show up to vote for Democrats OR Republicans. They hate the UniParty, and they know the election was stolen in 2020. A significant margin of voters in the Rust Belt (PA, MI, WI, OH) and the “new West” (AZ, NV) will vote for Trump or no-one. They’ll stay home. No Republican can win Georgia but Trump. It won’t be RFK Jr., it won’t be DeSantis. It’ll be Trump or whomever the Democrats throw into the slot as Joe Biden descends into the depth of senility, fecklessness and danger to everyone on planet Earth. America – the West – is finished if Biden wins re-election. Put the dagger in.

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | Apr 25 2023 19:02 utc | 184

Martyanov has been right from the beginning. The target of the Ukraine war is and has always been Europe.
The gas pipelines that provided cheap gas that made European industry highly competitive have been destroyed. Gas is now 4 times more expensive (last I checked) than the US forcing European industries to relocate to the US. An Iron Curtain 2.0 has been raised keeping Europe firmly away from Russia and under the thumb of the Anglo Americans. European weapons inventories have been depleted leaving Europe wholly dependent on the US for protection. The Anglos cracked the whip and EU leaders are fully back in line.
The conflict has served its purpose and the Anglo Americans have achieved their goals. Time to move on.
Posted by: Down South | Apr 25 2023 16:16 utc | 108
As a European I’m inclined to agree This also fits broadly with Michael Hudson’s analysis.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 25 2023 19:04 utc | 185

There are still a few US cheerleaders here who believe that Russia doesn’t have the military strength to finish off the Ukies. Right now the Ukies don’t have the military strength to finish off themselves. And, besides, the main thing that Westerners don’t seem to recognize is that Russia doesn’t intend to move to the border of Poland. They’ve still got the coast to occupy and a little more in the middle. There are lots and lots of Russians in the conquered sectors who haven’t been pleased with Ukraine’s pisspoor showing governing them. Russia’s economy is growing (3% last year) versus wherever the Ukraine has landed. And there are a lot of ethnic Ukrainians married to Russians who don’t want to see their spouses condemned to second-class citizenship in a Nazi Ukraine.
When the Ukrainian “counter-offensive” collapses the fleeing Ukies will be running through the mud across open fields for hundreds of miles. Fish in a barrel.

Posted by: Bob In Portland, Ore | Apr 25 2023 19:09 utc | 186

Posted by: Comandante | Apr 25 2023 13:48 utc | 35
They have a pandemic planned for ’25. They could move up the timetable on that. In fact, given now know about their tabletop exercises, maybe the announced date is a decoy & they intend to launch sooner.
See “Catastrophic Contagion”, the Severe Epidemic Enteritis Respiratory Syndrome (SEERS) tabletop held at Johns Hopkins in 10/22 involving the usual suspects.

Posted by: Mary | Apr 25 2023 19:09 utc | 187

There will be no ceasefire in place…Russia will get its objectives, and then some, including a demilitarized rump Ukraine..

Posted by: pyrrhus | Apr 25 2023 19:15 utc | 188

I hope b is right on his assessment of the status quo of this war. But I also doubt that he is right about Biden, per se, wanting to end this failure and switch to another one against China instead.
Now that Biden has declared his candidacy for the 2024 run, he’ll use diatribes, lies, propaganda, and administrative optics against China to win popular support, hoping to win 2024 because anti-China rhetoric have proven effective with American voters (nah! all western voters, really), even more so than anti-Russia rhetoric. But to take on China over the Taiwan powder keg is way too much of a task that at this stage of America’s national might/capability it can muster. He would switch to battling China, but just for the optics and hypes. All western politicians have done that for the past two decades, haven’t they???
I am amazed and impressed that somehow China has made the right call on the Ukraine War ending by Summer 2023. Prior to issuing the Chinese Initiatives (the 12 points plan) to end the Ukraine War in late February, China issued a commentary that said that they have made simulations the results of which indicated that embarrassingly tight resource availability in the west would force them to reduce their support of Kiev soon. Thus, time is right for a call to negotiation; thus also China’s position paper and proposal. I thought, at the time of reading the Chinese commentary, that they are wishy-washy and sticking out their head way too early. I now have to tip my hat to China’s analysts and strategists. They called the situation right, deep into the bones of the matters. What brilliance! Do any barflies here know of any other geopolitical elves elsewhere having demonstrated similarly brilliant insights????

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 25 2023 19:16 utc | 189

@JessDTruth | 141
I am not saying that it is going to happen in the near future (i.e. when NATO stops sending weapons to the Ukraine), but of course some kind of conciliation between Russia and Western Europe would make a lot of sense for a number of reasons. So I think that the Russians are still contemplating that possibility.
First of all, it is a bloodless way to weaken the United States and the U.K., which are right now the main troublemakers for Russia, China and the rest of the world.
Second point, no matter what they tell you, Russia is a European country. Its most valuable land, the basins of the Don and the Volga, is all in Europe. Russians need to secure its western border, but antagonizing and destabilizing European countries would only achieve more insecurity.
Third point, American and Russian propagandists, with all their babbling about the American empire, the serfs of the empire etc., severely underestimate European countries. Russian elites are not that stupid though. They know that those countries are actually a far harder nut to crack than many around here think. So better have a good deal than a long, full blown confrontation. Russia could get more security for its western border and some valuable trade partners, while those European countries willing to have a deal would get security on their eastern borders and a valuable trade partner.
The Martyanov-like guys have a good understanding of military strategy, technology, even science, but they have still something to learn about industry. This is a selected list of countries and the relative weight of their manufacturing sector over their whole economy:

country….. | % GDP
—————–
China……. | 27
Japan……. | 20
Germany.. | 19
Italy………. | 15
Russia…… | 14
U.S……….. | 11

Russia, for all its achievements, still needs one or more industrial partners. China can be one, but a strategical thinker does not put all his eggs in one basket. Western Europe could be the other one.

Posted by: SG | Apr 25 2023 19:16 utc | 190

Trump, Desantis, Younkin, Kennedy have less than ZERO chance to win anything.
Ukraine war will go on for at least 2 more years.
Posted by: Comandante | Apr 25 2023 13:31 utc | 31
I agree with your overall premise that a winner has already be declared for the 2024 election – it’s not Joe tho.
Two points about the next proxy war:
(1) US Air Force general of the material airlift command already has said they are getting ready for war with China in 2025
(2) recent war games were run over China/US situation for 2027.
US/West cannot fight Russia and China at the same time – they just can’t. The plan has always been tie up Russia first, then go after China. That is exactly what will happen.
Trump ‘won’ to allow time for planning and build out/up of new weapons. He is a no-war guy with anyone, not Ukraine nor China. Joe ‘won’ to tie up Russia; the war will not end but it will not continue, either…..cease fire will be declared and uneasy peace will come about with Ukraine divide between Russia side and EU side. But it will also do a good job of tying up a bunch of Russian Forces.
There is one person on that list that has already said we shouldn’t be in Ukraine as the real enemy is China – that is meatball Ron, the next president of the US of A, who will be used to start the Taiwan China war. This war will be fought primarily with air and naval power with missiles; we will not need tanks or 155mm artillery, hence why they are be allowed to be used up in a land war. We needed the time between 2016 and 2024 to get the new aircraft band next generation missiles ready (army & navy has their hypersonic ready now; Air Force will have their in a year. Newish stealth cruise missile already on line, too. New Air Force bomber will be online within two years.)
Of course, the West will not win this war, either – but if you pay attention the goal has stopped being about winning for the last 70 plus years, it is only about mucking up things elsewhere so the dollar remains supreme. Russia & China plus the RoW can try go away from the dollar all they want; they may even succeed for a bit. But it will be hard to sustain that once the West makes it too costly to try to move goods and services between China, Russia, and the RoW.
And don’t bring up the whole notion of ‘can’t start a war with your biggest supplier of goods to the West’. That threat only works if the Western leaders actually cared about their people.

Posted by: drsmith | Apr 25 2023 19:23 utc | 191

I wouldn’t waste too much energy thinking that strategy of US liberals is influenced by election calculations. They proved in 2020 that they can steal elections, so no worries there. They only have one eye out the window for the torches and pitchforks. That’s the only thing that can stop them, unless they go full monty and provoke a Russian missile strike. In the meantime, as long as they can keep mortgaging the US economy to spread the graft (with 10% for the big guy) the project will continue.

Posted by: JT | Apr 25 2023 19:24 utc | 192

SG: You could have saved yourself a lotnof typing just by consulting a map: Russia does not border Western Europe.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 25 2023 19:27 utc | 193

@172 zelensky has openly called for ukraine to imitate Israel. I think it had to with being militarily self sufficient but it seems to be a slip about colonizing ukraine, once the descendents of russian colonists are removed.
Lots of russian jews in Israel, they can hang out with the white south African refugees once Israel becomes a war zone.
I dunno if it’s a 1000 year old master plan or if the jews are still slaves for older groups or what. But the land is being depopulated as we speak, and it looks intentional as well, so that speaks for itself.
Anyways i find these politics boring. I worship the war God, fighting the good fight against the biggest lie ever told – there is only one God.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 25 2023 19:27 utc | 194

“Posted by: drsmith | Apr 25 2023 19:23 utc | 191”
Umm china borders russia. They can easily keep moving supplies back and forth during war. not to mention they have big allies in Iran, Turkey, Saudi and Africa.
And if US disrupts sea trade lanes, well, 2 can play that game. You would also see Western trade ships sinking to the bottom of the sea en masse.
The main problem with US and war in either China sea or Black sea is that its a logistical nightmare for the US. It would not be sustainable.
US would be forced to go nuclear in less than 2 weeks of fighting on every single scenario.

Posted by: Comandante | Apr 25 2023 19:37 utc | 195

What about Odessa?
If the Ukr counter-offensive ever does materialize and its large ‘last chance force’ is decimated by the by the seemingly-impregnable dense Russian prepared defences, the Ukr army would be substantially defenceless and there will be irresistible US and EU pressure on the Ukr leadership to negotiate a settlement.
Whatever lands are given up by the Ukrs, Odessa will remain under Ukr control — this would give rise to the possibility of strong US pressure to establish a naval base there — a completely unacceptable situation. As well, Kharov will remain in Ukr hands and pose another long-term threat.
What to do?

Posted by: chet380 | Apr 25 2023 19:38 utc | 196

NATO may possibly become a pure European construct. The US not expelled, but no longer having the only voice. First, Ukraine is settled. The euros will have a full voice here, and were never on board with the coup and the war. Then a sorting out of NATO and new members. Then, economic reintegration with Russia. All this will take 10 years min., maybe 30. If the US and europe were smart, they’d use Russia as a hedge against China as they did the reverse 50 years ago. Their shortsightedness has weakened their empire badly.

Posted by: seer | Apr 25 2023 19:40 utc | 197

Commadante @164
This comes out:
“South Africa withdraws from ICC. Putin will be able to attend BRICS meeting”

Something very odd has happened that I have not seen in my lifetime. I think we need to coin a term for it, but first I will try to describe it.
In normal times, institutions tend to hold their own survival as the most important thing, above all else. Even when it goes against the principles of their founding mission. For example, it used to drive me batshit crazy when some environmental group would come out in favor of illegal immigration here in the US, despite the fact that clearly, it adds to overpopulation, and more housing developments destroy animal habitats, more people equals more cars equals more pollution, etc.
Wouldn’t it make more sense for environmentalists to side with the restrictionists? It would make their job easier, I naively thought.
But then I realized, that these institutions are more concerned with their own survival and propagation, similar to how an animal has survival instincts, than doing their mission work. By selling out to the man, they get funding, grants, and cush gigs in think tanks.
This has been the normal order of things.
However, lately, the pattern is breaking down. Clearly, the ICC’s bureaucratic power is directly related to how many countries are party to it. Every country that withdraws weakens the institution. They had to know this risk when they issued the Putin indictment.
And yet, they merrily went down this suicidal path. Ultimately, this may end up with the ICC becoming nothing more than a regional EU court, with no jurisdiction or scope outside of Europe.
Similarly, German politicians apparently no longer care about the country’s industry, economy, or workforce. They’ve happily allowed a foreign power to destroy their infrastructure with no repercussions or even acknowledgment.
Perhaps better students of history can cite a similar time when institutions and governments chose suicide over a balanced risk management approach. I would guess that we have not seen this since the run-up to WWI.

Posted by: Chris | Apr 25 2023 19:41 utc | 198

” I dunno if it’s a 1000 year old master plan or if the jews are still slaves for older groups or what. But the land is being depopulated as we speak, and it looks intentional as well, so that speaks for itself.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 25 2023 19:27 utc | 194 ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT7r89tNA0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejSXekd_yY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIlRzba2xTc

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Apr 25 2023 19:44 utc | 199

Ukraine could become the first privately owned bricks and mortar secret corporate state, run by a Board of Directors manifesting the interests of its shareholders…
Posted by: Irish | Apr 25 2023 18:22 utc | 162
Just to be nit-picky, a lot of the British colonies were run for profit corporations. They did it that way for the usual reason people start corporations: it is a way of raising money.

Posted by: Jmaas | Apr 25 2023 19:48 utc | 200