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March 30, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-75
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Looks like the Russian security services have arrested an WSJ reporter. Espionage. Posted by: Just Observing | Mar 30 2023 14:11 utc | 1 Minimum, incomplete, low-ball KIA(only)(FEBA only) 570+ … Translated:
From the altworld.com Posted by: Paul | Mar 30 2023 14:36 utc | 3 Posted by: Just Observing | Mar 30 2023 14:11 utc | 1 Posted by: Chris | Mar 30 2023 14:45 utc | 4 A new Battle of Kursk Posted by: DR-Montreal | Mar 30 2023 14:47 utc | 5 @ Just Observing | Mar 30 2023 14:11 utc | 1 Posted by: too scents | Mar 30 2023 14:50 utc | 6 An Hour and a bit with Big Serge chatting to Donbass Devushka Posted by: Aslangeo | Mar 30 2023 14:50 utc | 7 Shadowbanned : In my opinion… Posted by: Leuk | Mar 30 2023 14:55 utc | 8 Posted by: DR-Montreal | Mar 30 2023 14:47 utc | 8 Posted by: Milites | Mar 30 2023 15:07 utc | 9 Leuk@11 Posted by: bevin | Mar 30 2023 15:09 utc | 10 DR-Montreal | Mar 30 2023 14:47 utc | 8 Posted by: paddy | Mar 30 2023 15:18 utc | 11 @ OttoE | Mar 30 2023 15:00 utc | 13
An incomplete OTOH here. Perhaps bar collectively contribute to a summary compilation ? Or someone aware of a concise working list already extant ? ‘Tis on topic. Posted by: Andrew | Mar 30 2023 15:53 utc | 13 DR Montreal – 8 Posted by: Clueless Joe | Mar 30 2023 15:58 utc | 14 https://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/14676 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 30 2023 16:04 utc | 15 Andrew @ 22 Posted by: dh | Mar 30 2023 16:08 utc | 16 Posted by: Clueless Joe | Mar 30 2023 15:58 utc | 23 Posted by: Milites | Mar 30 2023 16:25 utc | 17 @ DR-Montreal | Mar 30 2023 14:47 utc | 8 Most non-Germans are looking at Olaf Scholz in disbelief, given how he subordinates vital German interests to the orders he receives from the White House. He even made plans together with Biden of how to conceal from the public Biden’s role in the NordStream sabotage. This happened early in March on Scholz’s 80-minute visit to Washington, as Seymour Hersh has learned from a source. It resulted in the ridiculous story that was fed to the media, about a sailboat crew of 6 people committing the attacks. Nobody believed that story even in Germany, but at the same time, nobody seems to care about anything here – let alone shine a light on Chancellor Scholz’s role in the cover up. Posted by: grunzt | Mar 30 2023 16:42 utc | 19 “A counteroffensive by Ukraine that has been much-anticipated should not be considered as a make-or-break moment in its conflict with Russia, Kiev’s Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba has said, urging his country’s foreign backers to maintain their support regardless of the outcome of this expected operation. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 30 2023 16:44 utc | 20 Ukraine is playing down importance of the expected counter-offensive. It seems there is very little faith of it succeeding. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 30 2023 16:45 utc | 21
Heh, reminds me of Questions from Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. Posted by: Forest | Mar 30 2023 16:48 utc | 22 Chevrus @17 Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 30 2023 16:49 utc | 23
Posted by: Down South | Mar 30 2023 16:51 utc | 24
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/51521 Posted by: Down South | Mar 30 2023 16:54 utc | 25 Did anyone see the Chinese journalist take the UN to school about the US occupation of Syria? It was a thing of beauty! Posted by: Slat1 | Mar 30 2023 16:56 utc | 26
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/39750 Posted by: Down South | Mar 30 2023 16:58 utc | 27 @1 re spies Posted by: c | Mar 30 2023 17:01 utc | 28 A thing of beauty indeed! Posted by: p | Mar 30 2023 17:02 utc | 29 It’s a conundrum for ukraine. It can’t take territory without an offensive, and it can’t end the war until it takes all the territory. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 30 2023 17:04 utc | 30
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/39711 Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 30 2023 17:06 utc | 31 Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 30 2023 17:06 utc | 31 Posted by: Paco | Mar 30 2023 17:11 utc | 32 @William Gruff: Posted by: Chevrus | Mar 30 2023 17:13 utc | 33 Although not fully on board with PCR on this point, he does have make one, namely that the entire SMO business is extremely risky with unacceptably high likelihood, in his view, of escalation to nuclear war thanks to the neocon capture of the US. Conclusion from his latest piece:
PCR fear of NuclearWar @ Slat1 | Mar 30 2023 16:56 utc | 26 Down South @24– Posted by: Milites | Mar 30 2023 16:25 utc | 29 Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 30 2023 17:30 utc | 37 Outraged no. 35 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Mar 30 2023 17:53 utc | 39 Slat1 @ 26
The best part is at the end you realize how he set the UN idiot up, head fake for the dunk. Please China, more where that came from. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 30 2023 17:55 utc | 40 28 – Yes, I remember him getting arrested in the Rzeszow area, a major hub for sending weapons to Ukraine. I wondered what happened to him. Posted by: Waldorf | Mar 30 2023 17:58 utc | 41 Is not the UN official in question a man with a Pakistani pedigree? Posted by: bevin | Mar 30 2023 18:00 utc | 42 Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 30 2023 17:15 utc | 34 Posted by: GT Stroller | Mar 30 2023 18:01 utc | 43 Another week has passed so it must be time for another Weekly Briefing by Marai Zakharova of which Ukraine is third on the list and long as usual. It begins with the following reminder:
And many paragraphs of review later, we read the following:
The briefing transcript as of now is incomplete, although the video is available at the link. Perhaps in six hours it will be done and more can be shared. Scorpion @34 Posted by: Paul Damascene | Mar 30 2023 18:09 utc | 45 @42 Haq or al-Haq is a very common surname among muslims. It’s actually a suffix meaning Tuth. This particular Faran Haq seems to have trouble living up to his name. Posted by: dh | Mar 30 2023 18:11 utc | 46 @46 I will try that again… Posted by: dh | Mar 30 2023 18:13 utc | 47 Offensive v Counteroffensive Posted by: Ghost Ship | Mar 30 2023 18:15 utc | 48 @48 Any comments? Posted by: dh | Mar 30 2023 18:19 utc | 49 @35 Outraged – Thank you for that video. At 10 min 30 in on it, there is a woman named Dana Stroul Co-Chair of the Syria Study Group. She gives a very scary glimpse of the neo-con mindset regarding Syria. Thank you! Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 30 2023 18:30 utc | 51 It is not clear where this is all headed, put it that way, which is why PCR is concerned. Whether he is right or not about nuclear escalation risk, there are still many unanswered questions yet to be clarified… Posted by: Exile | Mar 30 2023 18:32 utc | 52 Posted by: Ghost Ship | Mar 30 2023 18:15 utc | 48 Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 30 2023 18:42 utc | 53 DR Montreal 5 Posted by: Rob Campbell | Mar 30 2023 18:46 utc | 54 Why are the Ukie fans still going on about peace deals and negotiations? There will be no end of this conflict for the Ukraine (or whatever it will be called at that time) beyond total unconditional surrender. Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 30 2023 18:59 utc | 55 grunzt | Mar 30 2023 16:42 utc | 19 Posted by: Ghi | Mar 30 2023 18:59 utc | 56 For the historically minded: Posted by: Paul Damascene | Mar 30 2023 19:01 utc | 57 Exile @ 52
Good point, however everyone was busted from the Great Depression going into WW2, Germany beyond flat broke, yet they always find the money for war. I’m no economist but I think you have to go to a full on war economy to do that, in this hybrid war you are correct about de-dollarization. I wouldn’t be too triumphalist though, it’s not like the dollar will go to zero, which is absurd, but it’ll probably level off at 60% for a long while, there’s a lot of inertia here, not just the petrodollar but all the three hundred years of Anglo-Saxon financial plumbing that makes global capital and trade go round. Probably it’ll take 20ys for the dollar to just become one of many currencies in a multi polar world, if hegemony winds down in a reasonable way and not in destruction and chaos inducing fitful bangs and booms. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 30 2023 19:14 utc | 58 The neo-cans have not “captured” Washington. They are just employed there. And they are employed to do what they are doing, which is to defend the practise of US hegemony. Posted by: bevin | Mar 30 2023 19:15 utc | 59 Ghi@56 Posted by: bevin | Mar 30 2023 19:23 utc | 60 @ bevin Posted by: natokraine | Mar 30 2023 19:25 utc | 61 @Outraged | Mar 30 2023 15:28 utc | 12 Posted by: OttoE | Mar 30 2023 19:29 utc | 62 From Victor’s telegram channel…. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Mar 30 2023 19:37 utc | 63 So, lots of things in play but IMO too complex to happen fast. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 30 2023 19:14 utc | 58 Posted by: Exile | Mar 30 2023 19:37 utc | 64 What are 200s and 300s ? Posted by: OttoE | Mar 30 2023 19:46 utc | 65 at Paul. Operation Barbarossa had a contact line as big or bigger I believe Posted by: Tannenhouser | Mar 30 2023 19:51 utc | 66 What are 200s and 300s ? Posted by: too scents | Mar 30 2023 19:53 utc | 67 bevin | Mar 30 2023 19:23 utc | 60 “…The real problem with neo-nazis is that they are like Nazis without brains. Posted by: OttoE | Mar 30 2023 19:54 utc | 68 @OttoE | Mar 30 2023 19:46 utc | 65 Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 30 2023 20:00 utc | 69 A bit of a classic on twitter about US journalist /agent Posted by: Aslangeo | Mar 30 2023 20:10 utc | 70 Having learned, during a fortnight in France, that Sputnik and RT are unavailable there I post this Posted by: bevin | Mar 30 2023 20:11 utc | 71 This is my first post. What is really going on in Bakhmut? I thought from reading on MOA that it had already fallen to Russia, perhaps I was mistaken. In any event, why is it still in contention do you think? Posted by: TreborSays | Mar 30 2023 20:16 utc | 72 Heavy precipitation in the Donbas region. Trains have been halted due to snow in Rostov-on-Don. Posted by: too scents | Mar 30 2023 20:17 utc | 73 @ bevin Posted by: natokraine | Mar 30 2023 20:18 utc | 74 It has been reported that in the last week 5% of Bakhmut has fallen to the Wagner forces of Russia. If the Russian advance is at that rate and continues at that rate, then Bakhmut will completely fall to Russia in around 7 weeks. Posted by: young | Mar 30 2023 20:20 utc | 75 This is OT but there seems to be a lot of concern in the MSM about the Wall Street Journal reporter who has been detained in Russia on charges of espionage. These teleprompter readers would have more credibility if they had displayed any concern for Julian Assange. I would think Putin could troll the west by trading one for the other but I am not sure Julian would want to be tainted by such a deal. Posted by: Quid Me Vexare | Mar 30 2023 20:20 utc | 76 Posted by: bevin | Mar 30 2023 19:15 utc | 59 Posted by: Anto | Mar 30 2023 20:25 utc | 77 unimperator@24 Posted by: bevin | Mar 30 2023 20:28 utc | 78 ” Nazi with brain is an oxymoron. Proof enough is that they drove people with brains into exile. The most prominent example is Albert Einstein, I guess. Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | Mar 30 2023 20:28 utc | 79 This is my first post. What is really going on in Bakhmut? I thought from reading on MOA that it had already fallen to Russia, perhaps I was mistaken. In any event, why is it still in contention do you think? Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 30 2023 20:29 utc | 80 TreborSays | Mar 30 2023 20:16 utc | 72 Posted by: grunzt | Mar 30 2023 20:35 utc | 81 @ TreborSays | Mar 30 2023 20:16 utc | 72 Posted by: natokraine | Mar 30 2023 20:44 utc | 82 Posted by: TreborSays | Mar 30 2023 20:16 utc | 72 Posted by: Surferket | Mar 30 2023 20:52 utc | 83 Since months Western tv news states food prices have increased “because of the war in Ukraine”. This is a good excuse to avoid blaming government. But peoples’ support for the war disappears. Posted by: Passerby | Mar 30 2023 20:58 utc | 84 TreborSays | Mar 30 2023 20:16 utc | 72 Posted by: grunzt | Mar 30 2023 20:59 utc | 85 @Bevin@59 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Mar 30 2023 21:03 utc | 86 Posted by: Just Observing | Mar 30 2023 14:11 utc | 1 Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 30 2023 21:10 utc | 87 Xi said it in Moscow: changes not seen in a hundred years are taking place, and Russia and China are the catalysts of this change. @ ThusspakeZarathustra | Mar 30 2023 17:53 utc | 39 Julian Ropke, broke bad in my book today: Posted by: GoFast | Mar 30 2023 21:33 utc | 90 Military Summary channel report today mentioned (Russian) sources of Ukraine losses in Bakhmut which aren’t included in MOD reports. They mentioned approximately 230/170/30 KIA/WIA/MIA Posted by: unimperator | Mar 30 2023 21:34 utc | 91 The Americans snatched defeat in front of Victory when the 9th Army could have walked into Central Berlin in April 15, 1945 and Eisenhower decided to honor the agreement with Soviets and save maybe a few thousand lower-class American lives which were more than made up in a peninsular named Korea, which very few Americans had heard about before, 5 years later. Posted by: kulmthestatusquo | Mar 30 2023 21:38 utc | 92 Corbyn becoming an independent. Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 30 2023 21:38 utc | 93 @ GT Stroller @ Paul Demascene. Thxs for replies. Outraged @2 Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Mar 30 2023 21:45 utc | 95 I am amazed by the skill with which they handled Trump’s indictment and subsequent arrest to come. They were very worried about reactions but handled it very well. Posted by: alek_a | Mar 30 2023 21:46 utc | 96 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 30 2023 21:34 utc | 90 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 30 2023 21:50 utc | 98 Posted by: GoFast | Mar 30 2023 21:33 utc | 89 Posted by: NoName | Mar 30 2023 21:54 utc | 99 bevin | Mar 30 2023 20:11 utc | 71
WTF ? Je suis français, and, oddly, I have lived ‘ere for a while.. Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 30 2023 21:59 utc | 100 |
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