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March 29, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-73
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Well, in b’s well-earned absence, what are the best sources of information out there? Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 29 2023 14:32 utc | 1 War for Water – https://peds-ansichten.de/2022/12/krieg-um-wasser/ (in German) Posted by: Martina | Mar 29 2023 14:34 utc | 2 I’m sure there will still be enough intelligent well-informed logical posters here to keep this blog well worth reading while b takes a break. Posted by: Dalit | Mar 29 2023 14:39 utc | 3 Zelensky says that if Ukraine loses Bakhmut, public pressure will force him to negotiate with Russia. Posted by: catdog | Mar 29 2023 14:52 utc | 4 Head of Russia security council: Every day Western weapons are supplied to Ukraine brings us closer to the nuclear apocalypse Posted by: Dave Oneil | Mar 29 2023 14:56 utc | 6 Blinken won’t let Zelensky negotiate until all ‘Russians’ have been ethnically cleansed from the Ukraine. That’s official State Depart. Policy. Yessiree my friends. Posted by: Exile | Mar 29 2023 14:56 utc | 7 Posted by: Exile | Mar 29 2023 14:56 utc | 7 Posted by: catdog | Mar 29 2023 15:03 utc | 8 “Prigozhin says that both the Ukranian army and Wagner have been destroyed in Bakhmut.” Posted by: goldbach | Mar 29 2023 15:03 utc | 9 Posted by: goldbach | Mar 29 2023 15:03 utc | 9 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 29 2023 15:10 utc | 10 Using Chrome’s built-in translation function to access Telegram
I use Google Chrome with translation to read Russian language Telegram channels on my desktop Mac. This link works for me, but I need to be registered. If I go to web.telegram.org directly, it redirects me to another page, that does not load on my Chrome. (“k” works, “z” does not.) There are some issues in using Chrome’s built-in translation function. Telegram takes over almost all of the browser screen and normal mouse menus stop working. I use a 4K monitor with the browser screen about 2000 pixels wide. I can access the “Translate to English” menu only from the white borders that fall outside the green captive area. On smaller screens, it is very difficult to turn translation on. Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 29 2023 15:11 utc | 11 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 29 2023 15:10 utc | 10 Posted by: catdog | Mar 29 2023 15:13 utc | 12 Without wishing to sound like a concern troll, I’ve watched a fair lot of Russian video, and while they may have the shells, do they always have the accuracy? I’m pleased to see they’re starting to produce some kind of guidance/glide capability into their shells, otherwise you can throw a lot at a target before you hit. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 29 2023 15:15 utc | 13 https://t.me/ukraine_watch/478
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 29 2023 15:16 utc | 14 History Legends on yootoob is a hoot! Posted by: Chevrus | Mar 29 2023 15:18 utc | 15 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 29 2023 15:15 utc | 13 Posted by: catdog | Mar 29 2023 15:19 utc | 16 The big news this week is the horrific attack of Kiev’s thugs on Ukrainian Orthodox Churches throughout the country. Posted by: Exile | Mar 29 2023 15:21 utc | 17 A similar petition appeare in UK, but just 110 signatures so far. Posted by: hans23 | Mar 29 2023 15:21 utc | 18 What form does the US “not letting” Zelensky negotiate take? The US is not all-powerful. If the Ukrainians lose the will to fight then the US can’t do anything about that. Posted by: Exile | Mar 29 2023 15:25 utc | 19 https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/22722
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 29 2023 15:28 utc | 20 Pro-UA mapper Live UA Map has all roads into Bakhmut either red or within small arms range. It appears that the city is completely cut off from supply by marked roads now. It may still be possible to get some supplies through if they are able to go cross-country and cross the streams and wetlands. Meanwhile, Avdeevka has only a 5 kilometer gap to allow supplies in and that’s closing quickly. When Bakhmut and Avdeevka fall then it will be easy to encircle New York and Seversk too. Does UA have a plan? Posted by: catdog | Mar 29 2023 15:29 utc | 21 Prigozhin says that both the Ukranian army and Wagner have been destroyed in Bakhmut. Posted by: First Time Poster | Mar 29 2023 15:30 utc | 22 “Without wishing to sound like a concern troll, I’ve watched a fair lot of Russian video, and while they may have the shells, do they always have the accuracy? I’m pleased to see they’re starting to produce some kind of guidance/glide capability into their shells, otherwise you can throw a lot at a target before you hit. Posted by: Comandante | Mar 29 2023 15:31 utc | 23
Don’t he realize that The West wants nuclear exchange? Posted by: sarmat | Mar 29 2023 15:34 utc | 24 https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/22845
You can look it up on Google Maps, west of Zhytomyr Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 29 2023 15:41 utc | 25 This is part of an interview with Prighozin where a captain explains the situation in Bakhmut and the surrounds with regards to the AFU. Posted by: Down South | Mar 29 2023 15:48 utc | 26 Has there been any news yet about whether the Ukr Govt has evicted the Monks from Lavra? Zelensky shows how evil he really is by attacking the right to people’s place of worship by burning down monasteries and churches and arresting priests. Some EU Values we have right here! Pure Nazi ideology. As Alex Christoforou of the Duran said last year, Sanctioning a Holy Man (Pastor Kirril) will not end well for the people that imposed the Sanctions (e.g. like Boris Johnson in the UK). It will end very very badly for Zelensky and probably for the people of Ukraine who didn’t want any of this. Posted by: Jo Dominich | Mar 29 2023 15:52 utc | 27 Zelensky is safe and can make any decision he wants. His personal body guards are British and American special forces. Posted by: Bob In Portland, Ore | Mar 29 2023 15:52 utc | 28
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/39625 Posted by: Down South | Mar 29 2023 15:54 utc | 29
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/39629 Posted by: Down South | Mar 29 2023 15:56 utc | 30 @Norwegian 20 Posted by: AG | Mar 29 2023 15:58 utc | 31
https://t.me/IntelRepublic/17383 Posted by: Down South | Mar 29 2023 15:58 utc | 32 4 – I don’t know about public pressure, as the open expression of it could well lead to being beaten up or even killed by Zelensky thugs, with nary a word in the Western media. A decline in morale could result in mass desertion etc. but we may not be there yet. Posted by: Waldorf | Mar 29 2023 15:59 utc | 33 did something with Telegram change? Posted by: AG | Mar 29 2023 16:00 utc | 34 @AG | Mar 29 2023 15:58 utc | 32 Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 29 2023 16:08 utc | 35 … depleted uranium ammunition, which the UK has promised to provide Posted by: Passerby | Mar 29 2023 16:11 utc | 36 @YetAnotherAnon | Mar 29 2023 15:15 utc | 13″ Posted by: Mike314159 | Mar 29 2023 16:21 utc | 37 There are some issues in using Chrome’s built-in translation function. Telegram takes over almost all of the browser screen and normal mouse menus stop working. I use a 4K monitor with the browser screen about 2000 pixels wide. I can access the “Translate to English” menu only from the white borders that fall outside the green captive area. On smaller screens, it is very difficult to turn translation on. Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 29 2023 16:24 utc | 38 All types of notifications between Russia and the United States under START suspended, including on test launches – Russian Foreign Ministry Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 29 2023 16:40 utc | 39 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 29 2023 15:15 utc | 13 Posted by: Surferket | Mar 29 2023 16:41 utc | 40 Don’t use chrome. It’s barely disguised google spyware. Use something without one of huge US companies (Microsoft/Apple/Facebook/Google/rest of spyware peddlers) behind it, like Firefox, it’s a much better browser anyway… Posted by: Mr V | Mar 29 2023 16:42 utc | 41 Depleted Uranium powder dropped on Britain from ground up shells in Ukrainian soil? Posted by: kupkee | Mar 29 2023 16:42 utc | 42 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 29 2023 14:32 utc | 1
Lord Of War is currently available to non-registered viewers. Those sites seem to go off and then come back on so keep them open in your browser and check back now and again Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 29 2023 16:50 utc | 43 # 38 Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Mar 29 2023 16:52 utc | 44 I am ignorant, but suspect that guided artillery shells are of limited usefulness against moving targets. Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 29 2023 17:13 utc | 45 Zelensky is safe and can make any decision he wants. His personal body guards are British and American special forces. Posted by: Exile | Mar 29 2023 17:14 utc | 46 How could mummy from Tutuanchamonstan put direkctions when his is on data program? Posted by: BB Rad | Mar 29 2023 17:23 utc | 47 throwing this idea out to the bar. events in the Ukraine are likely to hot up in the next few months. Crimea is likely to be attacked. UK implemented a TEZ around the Falkland’s. Why would not Russia do the same as missiles/drones/boats attack from the sea. Posted by: duggie | Mar 29 2023 17:25 utc | 48 For the Telegram’ers Posted by: Cunningstunt | Mar 29 2023 17:25 utc | 49 Posted by: Passerby | Mar 29 2023 16:11 utc | 37 Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 29 2023 17:26 utc | 50 @ anon2020 | Mar 29 2023 17:13 utc | 47 Posted by: whirlX | Mar 29 2023 17:34 utc | 51 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 29 2023 16:40 utc | 40 Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 29 2023 17:35 utc | 52 Every day for a while now the Russian MOD is reporting huge Ukrainian manpower losses in the ‘Donetsk Direction’ of between 200 and 340. https://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12462255@egNews There are no where near this amount anywhere else. Anyone know why so many in this direction? Are they talking about Avdiivka or further south? Posted by: Rob Campbell | Mar 29 2023 17:44 utc | 53 Posted by: Rob Campbell | Mar 29 2023 17:44 utc | 53 Posted by: ObserverBG | Mar 29 2023 17:53 utc | 54 Posted by: whirlX | Mar 29 2023 17:34 utc | 51 Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 29 2023 18:04 utc | 55 anon2020 | Mar 29 2023 16:50 utc | 43 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 29 2023 18:14 utc | 56 RE: De-Dollarization Posted by: Exile | Mar 29 2023 18:20 utc | 57 @LightYearsFromHome 39 Posted by: AG | Mar 29 2023 18:20 utc | 58 This is worthy as it’s coming from Sladkov so whatever it is, real or psyops it’s worth noting. The fascinating part is the DPRK entering as a PMC. We are living in a very dystopian sci-fi world, future just keeps getting bleaker. Good luck to all of us with WW3 overrun with mercenaries and PMCs – global berserker chaos. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 29 2023 18:23 utc | 59 On Polish TV Posted by: unimperator | Mar 29 2023 18:26 utc | 60 ^ forgot to add that Sladkov is not a military commander but a war correspondent, from what I gather Russia’s most popular and trusted. Not sure what is up with that mis-statement, or where DonbassDevushka got it. I assume what he’s saying in the vid is what is quoted below. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 29 2023 18:27 utc | 61 unimperator @ 60
TV is a silly thing, still I find this interesting, the foaming at the mouth loud barking dogs of the ex-warsaw pact and this includes Ukraine all signed on for big meaty pieces of dismembered Russia that the USA and UK promised as soon as they carve up the carcass of the RF. So, now it will be Ukraine that is carved up and feed to the eager dogs? To a rabid dog meat is meat. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 29 2023 18:45 utc | 62 It does indeed look like reading Intel Slava necessitates a TG account now. Colonel Cassad is still easyly available and overlaps Intel Slava very much, although Cassad is rather more alarmist (warning about epic Ukrainian counter attacks) and Intel Slava shows much more hate of Ukrainian criminals, with some cruel delight in pictures of bodies. Posted by: Anthony | Mar 29 2023 18:52 utc | 63 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 29 2023 18:14 utc | 56 Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 29 2023 19:04 utc | 64 “by: Norwegian | Mar 29 2023 15:41 utc | 25” Posted by: Dalit | Mar 29 2023 19:16 utc | 65 AG @ 58
Because TG isn’t journalism it’s social media, and social media is a mess, though Slavyangrad is about as good as it gets. Thanks for the twitter find, nukes is important stuff, best get it right. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 29 2023 19:29 utc | 66 Some sickos in Anglosphere leadership
Well there now Mr. Putin and Mr. Shoigu, you have been warned; it’s all the way to Poland. Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 29 2023 19:46 utc | 67 @unimperator | Mar 29 2023 18:26 utc | 60 Posted by: barstool | Mar 29 2023 19:52 utc | 68 barstool @ 68
I vote for “Javelina”. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 29 2023 19:55 utc | 69 Military summary new analysis on coming Ukraine deployments. They say 3 army corps, 19 brigades including 2 artillery brigades. Remember that Ukraine just announced a 500k mobilization over 4 months. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 29 2023 20:08 utc | 70 A year ago most of the peoples in the Western world were pretty eager to see the USA and NATO take on the Russians. Posted by: young | Mar 29 2023 20:09 utc | 71 Some say that America favours long wars because long wars destabilise their opponents and prevent them from growing and then competing with the US. So America favours a long war in Ukraine, in the hope that a long war will destabilise Russia. And yes, America is trying to instigate lots of little wars all around Russia with the same aim. Only problem is: Russia doesn’t have a problem fighting all these skirmishes. In fact Russia is also intent on fighting a long war in Ukraine, with the intention of royally pissing the West off because the West can’t compete with Russian armaments production. Posted by: gT | Mar 29 2023 20:12 utc | 72 Let’s wish his majesty the d..ck swinger comedian President of the Ukrainian neonazis good luck in his campaign to take over Crimea.From a military point of view, how could he dream of going to Crimea when Ukrainian NATO proxies are losing in the center of the battlefield, Artemovsk, Avdeevka…? Also there’s noticeable change in Zelinski’s appearance. He looks a little bit wiser these days. It seems he has given up much of his earlier infantile tough-guy/superman character. Once Artemovsk is liberated, he’ll be ready to leave Ukraine. Posted by: maskazer | Mar 29 2023 20:13 utc | 73 Cheers, b. Posted by: Pacifica_Advocate | Mar 29 2023 20:15 utc | 74 Posted by: hans23 | Mar 29 2023 15:21 utc | 18 Posted by: Qolotlh Kernow | Mar 29 2023 20:16 utc | 75 Posted by: Mike314159 | Mar 29 2023 16:21 utc | 37 Posted by: Milites | Mar 29 2023 20:19 utc | 76 Re: the seized $300 billion of Russian foreign reserves Posted by: jayc | Mar 29 2023 20:20 utc | 77 Some wakening up at The Hill? Posted by: blueswede | Mar 29 2023 20:23 utc | 78
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted by: Vikichka | Mar 29 2023 20:29 utc | 79 Posted by: jayc | Mar 29 2023 20:20 utc | 77 Posted by: Milites | Mar 29 2023 20:35 utc | 80 @78 They will be running around frantically looking for some dirt on Senator Brakey. Posted by: dh | Mar 29 2023 20:47 utc | 81 blueswede | Mar 29 2023 20:23 utc Posted by: spudski | Mar 29 2023 20:49 utc | 82 @29 Down South Posted by: David Hart | Mar 29 2023 20:51 utc | 83 “Meanwhile for the West it is an existential issue because the whole world will laugh at the West if the West doesn’t win in Ukraine.” Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 29 2023 20:51 utc | 84 sarmat | Mar 29 2023 15:34 utc | 24 “…The West wants nuclear exchange… Posted by: OttoE | Mar 29 2023 20:52 utc | 85 Judge Napolitano interviews Col. Douglas Macgregor today, March 29, 2023. 1 hour ago @ 4:50 PM EST as I write. Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 29 2023 20:56 utc | 86 LightYearsFromHome | Mar 29 2023 18:23 utc | 59: Posted by: Ian2 | Mar 29 2023 21:03 utc | 87 Qolotlh Kernow | Mar 29 2023 20:16 utc | 75
Biscotte they’re not as stupid as you, you, you have now given your views, poss name & address to the people who really, really would like to know who their enemies are ? Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 29 2023 21:05 utc | 88 LightYearsFromHome | Mar 29 2023 18:45 utc | 62 Posted by: OttoE | Mar 29 2023 21:18 utc | 89 Catdog (4), thanks for citing that thread. Dead prisoners are a profit center for Russia. They are a net cost re: human capital. Whereas law abiding civilians are valuable human capital. When they die, millions of dollars (thousands of oz of gold if you prefer) of value is lost per death. Prigozhin is all about making $. He’s Russia’s official entrepreneur of state services. Whether it’s Kremlin catering, mercenaries, or prison-commercial ‘partnerships’ he sure knows how to extract value from strange places. “Pictures starting to filter out of Ukraine’s new Leopards. Looks like the AFU is slapping ERA tiles and side skirts on what is already an overweight vehicle. The grand reconquesta of Crimea is going to be quite the show – I’m looking forward to it.” Posted by: unimperator | Mar 29 2023 21:39 utc | 91 Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 29 2023 20:56 utc | 86 Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 29 2023 21:41 utc | 92 Military summary reporting central Bakhmut fallen, town hall captured by Wagner. Posted by: Chris | Mar 29 2023 21:49 utc | 93 Mariupol was surrounded and it still took almost a month to capture it. We see similar with Bakhmut, urban fighting is slow. Posted by: alek_a | Mar 29 2023 21:55 utc | 94 Ian2@87 Posted by: bevin | Mar 29 2023 21:56 utc | 95 Posted by: alek_a | Mar 29 2023 21:55 utc | 94 Posted by: Chris | Mar 29 2023 21:59 utc | 96 cery hard for me to comment these days because i have to use ohone. Posted by: watcher | Mar 29 2023 22:05 utc | 97 then there is the wonderful Maria. i guess you know my preference. Posted by: alek_a | Mar 29 2023 22:26 utc | 99 I think (as I have previously said) that this whole Ukraine (and soon to be Taiwan too..probably) thing is most likely part of a bigger plan, to get a third world war going, and from that a One World Government. The people behind this (the Rothschilds, Rockefellers etc., basically the Illuminati) intend to enslave all of humanity by taking cash out and microchipping everyone. This is Biblical stuff, literally. The mark of the beast. They are probably planning on killing most of us through some engineered virus too, they were behind covid too, after all. There’s proof of that too, but for some reason I can’t post the link on this site, the message won’t go through. Posted by: just somebody | Mar 29 2023 22:28 utc | 100 |
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