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March 23, 2023

Ukraine Open Thread 2023-68

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For all the poor humans needlessly dying to satisfy Uncle Sam's hegemonic demon.

Liam Clancy - Band Played Waltzing Matilda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFCekeoSTwg

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 23 2023 16:43 utc | 1

ISW saying again that Russia running out of precision missiles.
How many more times are we going to hear that?
They claim there are less being used. Perhaps Ukraine's air defence depletion means less missiles achieves the same result as three months ago.

Posted by: Truthsayer | Mar 23 2023 16:43 utc | 2

Every day there are videos where the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine talk about the loss of equipment and personnel.

Another problem is that Bankova sends untrained fighters to this sector of the front, which confirms the fact of a shortage of manpower and equipment. Many say that the office workers are now trying to stop the advance of PMC Wagner with the help of heavy losses.

The problem is that large losses hit the morale of the army and society, even though the Office of the President is trying in every possible way to hide this moment.


https://t.me/legitimniy/15010
Everything is very bad in the Bakhmutovsky meat grinder, Avdeevka and in the direction of Seversk. It is customary in the Office of the President to launch distracting stuff on the network all these days in order to shift the focus of the discussion.

https://t.me/legitimniy/15011

Posted by: Down South | Mar 23 2023 16:50 utc | 3

I was notified this morning by Tik Tok of my account suspension due to me thanking a Ukrainian poster who was lamenting the death and destruction in the Ukraine due to the war; simply expressing my ephemeral gratitude to the Ukrainian government and the Ukrainian people who keep it in power for suffering, dying and sacrificing their country's cities and infrastructure so I could continue enjoying the fruits of US hegemony.

Posted by: ctpalmer | Mar 23 2023 16:52 utc | 4

Re-posted from tail-end of previous thread:

Minimum, incomplete, low-ball KIA(only)(FEBA only) 500+ ... Translated:

Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation (22.03.2023)

◽️ In the Kupyansk direction, artillery fire of the Western Group of Forces hit enemy units in the areas of Dvurechnaya, Sinkovka, Olshana and Kotlyarovka of Kharkiv Oblast.

💥 Over 50 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored combat vehicles, two vehicles, and a 2C3 Akatsiya self-propelled howitzer were destroyed.

💥 In addition, an ammunition depot of the 103rd Territorial Defense Brigade was destroyed near the village of Kislovka, Kharkiv region.

◽️ On the Krasno-Limansky direction, operational and tactical aviation strikes, artillery fire and heavy flame throwing systems of the Center Group of Forces hit AFU manpower and equipment in the areas of Chervona Dibrova, Ploshchanka and Kuzmino of the Luhansk People's Republic.

💥 Over 90 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored combat vehicles, three pickup trucks, a Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer, and a D-30 howitzer were destroyed in this direction during the day.

◽️ In the Donetsk direction in the course of active actions of the units of the "Southern" group of troops, air strikes, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems over the past day destroyed more than three hundred Ukrainian servicemen, three armored combat vehicles, three vehicles, the self-propelled artillery unit "Acacia", as well as the howitzer D-20.

◽️ In the South Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia directions, strikes by operational and tactical aviation and artillery fire of the Vostok Group of Forces hit AFU units in the areas of Ugledar in the Donetsk People's Republic, Zaliznichne, Malaya Tokmachka and Malye Shcherbaki in the Zaporizhzhia region.

💥 The enemy's losses during the day were up to 40 Ukrainian servicemen, three vehicles, and one US-made M777 artillery system.

💥 In addition, a fuel depot for military equipment of the 102nd Territorial Defense Brigade was destroyed near the Zaliznichnoye settlement in Zaporizhzhia region.

◽️ In the Kherson direction, up to 20 Ukrainian servicemen, two vehicles, as well as a Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer were destroyed as a result of enemy fire.

💥 Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile forces and artillery of groups of troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation hit 83 artillery units of the AFU at firing positions, manpower and equipment in 112 areas.

💥 Two hangars with weapons and military equipment of the AFU were hit on the territory of the airfield "Shkolny" near the city of Odessa.

💥 Russian Air Force fighter aircraft shot down a Ukrainian Air Force Mi-8 helicopter near the village of Malye Krynki, Kharkiv Oblast.

◽️ During the day, air defense forces destroyed 26 unmanned aerial vehicles near the settlements of Krivosheyevka, Mykolaivka, Rubizhnoye, Kreminna of the Luhansk People's Republic, Peski, Novoandreyevka of the Donetsk People's Republic, Vasilievka, Stepovoye, Novopokrovka of the Zaporozhye region, as well as Golaya Pristan and Krynki of the Kherson region. In addition, three HIMARS MBRLS rockets were intercepted.

📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed (losses over previous 24hrs(+?)):
403 aircraft, (Daily avg 1.1)
224(+) helicopters, (Daily avg 0.6)
3,528(+26) unmanned aerial vehicles, (Daily avg 8.9)
414 surface-to-air missile systems, (Daily avg 1.1)
8,370(+7) tanks and other armored combat vehicles, (Daily avg 21.8)
1,070 multiple rocket launchers, (Daily avg 2.8)
4,410(+7) field artillery and mortars, (Daily avg 11.4) and
9,052(+13) special military vehicles. (Daily avg 23.3)

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Minimum, incomplete, low-ball KIA(only)(FEBA only) 465+ ... Translated:

Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation (23.03.2023)

◽️ In the Kupyansk direction, air strikes and artillery fire of the "Western" grouping of troops hit AFU units in the areas of Artemivka in the Luhansk People's Republic, Dvurechnaya and Berestovoye in the Kharkiv region. The losses of the enemy in this direction were up to 70 Ukrainian servicemen, an infantry fighting vehicle, two pickup trucks, a Grad MLRS combat vehicle, as well as an M777 artillery system manufactured in the USA.

◽️ In the Krasno-Limanskoe direction, strikes by assault and army aviation, artillery fire and active actions of the units of the Group of Forces Center hit enemy manpower and equipment in the areas of Chervona Dibrova of the Luhansk People's Republic, Yampolovka and Terny of the Donetsk People's Republic. During the day more than 80 Ukrainian soldiers, two armored vehicles, three pickup trucks, as well as a D-30 howitzer were destroyed in this direction.

◽️ In the Donetsk direction, as a result of active actions of units and artillery fire of the "Southern" group of troops, more than 250 Ukrainian servicemen, six tanks, five armored combat vehicles, seven vehicles and a D-20 howitzer were destroyed during the day.

◽️ In addition, an ammunition depot of the 53rd mechanized brigade of the AFU was destroyed near the village of Lastochkino.

◽️ On the South Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia directions, air strikes and artillery fire of the Vostok Group of Forces hit AFU units in the areas of Ugledar and Novomikhailovka settlements of the Donetsk People's Republic. Total losses of the enemy in these directions were up to 50 Ukrainian servicemen, one pickup truck, three vehicles, as well as D-20 and D-30 howitzers.

◽️ In the Kherson direction, up to 15 Ukrainian servicemen and five vehicles were destroyed in the course of the day.

💥 Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery of groups of troops (forces) of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation struck 76 AFU artillery units at firing positions, manpower and equipment in 114 areas during the day.

💥 A fuel and lubricant depot of the 65th AFU Mechanized Brigade was destroyed near the Zaliznichnoye settlement in Zaporizhzhia Region.

✈️ Russian Air Force fighter aircraft in the vicinity of Boguslavka, Kharkiv region shot down an Su-24 aircraft of the Ukrainian air force.

💥 The air defense forces intercepted five HIMARS MBRLS rockets during the day.

◽️ In addition, sixteen unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed in the areas of Zaliman, Kreminna of the Luhansk People's Republic, Vladimirovka, Vasilevka, Pavlovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, Berestovoye, Lozovaya of the Kharkiv Region and Alyoshki of the Kherson Region.

📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed (losses over previous 24hrs(+?)):
404(+1) aircraft, (Daily avg 1.1)
224 helicopters, (Daily avg 0.6)
3,544(+16) unmanned aerial vehicles, (Daily avg 8.9)
414 surface-to-air missile systems, (Daily avg 1.1)
8,384(+14) tanks and other armored combat vehicles, (Daily avg 21.8)
1,071(+1) multiple rocket launchers, (Daily avg 2.8)
4,415(+5) field artillery and mortars, (Daily avg 11.4) and
9,073(+21) special military vehicles. (Daily avg 23.3)

Comment:

Sustained nominal OP tempo, yet focused & targeted. Higher actual AFU KIA than MOD incomplete claimed over preceding 48hrs. Six MBTs destroyed in past 24hrs.

Unsustainable manpower & materiel AFU losses continue to mount. Bahkmut reduction continues, primarily by Air Strikes & indirect Fires. AFU trapped forces desperately short of shells, mortar rounds, even small arms ammunition.

Avdiika double envelopment expands. Three remaining secondary MSRs all under RF attack. The central & key town of Orlovka is already under RF Fire control, hence all ingress/egress to/from Avdiika is now limited & incurs losses. Limits reinforcements/replacements & all logistics supplies & withdrawals, including vegicles, heavy arms & wounded.

Both Bahkmut & Avdiika have been since at least Mar18'23 & continue to be targeted, by RuAF sorties using precision guided medium & heavy glide bombs from a distance of up to ~40Km(Low cost, mass quantity, FAB-500 & UPAB-1500B-E, 500Kg & 1500Kg) to reduce major fortifications & troop concentrations & strongpoints. In addition waves of Air Launched Cruise Missiles(ALCMs), Kh-59, Kh-101, Kh-555 and S-300 missiles in the secondary ground attack role, along with continual artillery, mortar, rocket & heavy ranged flamethrower barrages, as well as Army Attack Helos.

Three concentrations of AFU troops & mercenaries were targeted by missile strikes in accommodations in urban city areas beyond FEBA. Casualties unknown.

AFU has not demonstrated an ability to prevent reduction of either Bahkmut or Avdiika by counter-attack to recover lost flanks or deploy sufficient or even combat effective tactical reserves. Continued inability to resist comparatively modest numerous RF limited advances on multiple axes in multiple sectors.

RF developing at least one, possibly two additional double envelopments on other fronts. Further AFU losses incurred in probing attacks & reconnaissance in force in Zaporizhzhia region.

AFU has already withdrawn units from NW, N, S & SW sectors of Theater, to reinforce Bahkmut & Avdiika with nil effect.

AFU continues to be held fixed in place & under constant disadvantageous attrition from direct & indirect Fires, including elsewhere all along FEBA.

Status & capability of AFU Strategic Reserve ?

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 23 2023 16:53 utc | 5

I finally had an opportunity to actually read the statement by Vladimir Putin regarding the supply of depleted Uranium ammunition. Unlike some of the more hysterical posters on this forum who were defecating in their women's underwear, Putin obviously has a more realistic understanding of what Depleted Uranium is. I am also certain that Putin doesn't wear women's underwear and that he doesn't have difficulties with incontinence.

A few clarifications on what Depleted Uranium ammunition actually is. Since the US doesn't recycle spent fuel rods (an abysmally stupid policy), the US doesn't utilize Uranium that has been irradiated in a nuclear reactor to manufacture ammunition.

Also, be aware that the US military is extremely cognizant of radiological hazards. As an example, the US Navy refuses to deploy tactical nuclear weapons that utilize Plutonium rather than Uranium-235 for the fissile material. Plutonium -239 which has a half-life of 24,0⁰0 years is about 20,000 times as radioactive as Uranium-235 which has a half-life of about 450 million years. Even bomb grade Plutonium contains significant quantities of Pu-238 which has a much shorter half-life of 89 years as well as Pu-240 which undergoes spontaneous fission. Since crew bunk in the torpedo room, the Navy doesn't want Plutonium fueled bombs. Air Force crews spend far less time in proximity to nuclear weapons and are separated by more distance, so Plutonium fueled bombs are less problematic.

I don't believe that Putin is stupid enough to retaliate for the use of DU munitions by using nuclear weapons. However; Putin is shrewd enough to exploit the hysteria as a justification for the interdiction of NATO tanks and ammunition before they enter Ukraine. I expect that more drones as well as satellites and manned surveillance aircraft will also be shot down.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Mar 23 2023 17:06 utc | 6

🇫🇷🇺🇦France has been training Ukrainian pilots on Mirage 2000 aircraft for a month and a half, - Le Figaro

▪️Accelerated training on French fighter-bombers takes place at the air bases of Mont-de-Marsan and Nancy. The decision to train pilots was made on the eve of Zelensky's visit to Paris on February 8.

▪️If a political decision is made, France could supply the Ukrainian Armed Forces with a dozen fighters, Le Figaro writes.

▪️Paris is phasing out the Mirage in favor of other aircraft, notably the Rafale.

So more junk, may get donated to State Museums, Airbase Guards, oh, & Ukraine too.

Yet ...

Ukrainian Air Force denies Le Figaro’s report that France trains Ukrainian pilots on Mirage fighter jets (updated) - Ukie, EuroMiadan-Press

Le Figaro reported that France is currently training a group of around thirty Ukrainian pilots on Mirage 2000 combat aircraft, Le Figaro writes. According to the report, the pilots are receiving an accelerated training program on French fighter-bombers at the Mont-de-Marsan and Nancy air bases, which has been ongoing for more than a month and a half. If the political decision is made, France could also deliver around ten fighter jets to the Ukrainian army, Le Figaro added.

Update:

Information about the training of Ukrainian pilots in France on Mirage 2000 fighters is not true, according to Yurii Ihnat, the spokesman of the Air Force Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He stated this in a comment to the Ukrainian office of Radio Liberty on March 22.

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Posted by: Outraged | Mar 23 2023 17:09 utc | 7

Posted by: ctpalmer | Mar 23 2023 16:52 utc | 4

They hate the truth.

Posted by: Colin | Mar 23 2023 17:22 utc | 8

Don Firineach@1

And here's a song for those fighting for the Donbas. Christy More and Viva Quinta Brigada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQbXO828Vio

Posted by: bevin | Mar 23 2023 17:26 utc | 9

Another Weekly MFA Briefing presented by Maria Zakharova has two long sections about Ukraine of which I provide the first. I should also mention there's a portion devoted to MH-17 developments and the observance of two notorious anniversaries--Opening of Dachau in 1933 and the 1999 NATO Aggressive War against Serbia. There's also a long section devoted to "On the discriminatory nature of the current global monetary and financial system." I should also add the transcript isn't complete, but the video is available at the above link.

And now, About the Ukrainian Crisis:

In the territories of Zaporozhye, Kherson regions, the DPR and the LHP liberated from the neo-Nazi kiev regime, there is an active establishment of peaceful life. Tens of thousands of specialists from other regions of Russia are restoring and rebuilding residential buildings and civilian infrastructure, repairing hundreds of kilometers of roads.

On March 15 of this year, a technological complex of the asphalt concrete plant was installed in the Lutuginsky district of the LPR, a trial batch of road surface was produced. This will put in order about 410 km of roads, 20 bridges and overpasses. In Mariupol this year it is planned to repair 54 km of roads, 5 bridges, complete the restoration of the city center, build another 30 multi-storey buildings for 2700 apartments. In Donetsk, by the end of 2023, a perinatal center equipped with modern equipment, designed for 149 seats, will be put into operation.

Time has shown that the Kiev authorities succeeded only in destruction. Russia has returned to these lands forever (there is no doubt about this) and is actively restoring what was destroyed by Ukrainian neo-Nazis. Naturally, they did not destroy alone. They were actively assisted in this by those who created them and brought them to power illegally. First of all, the Anglo-Saxon duet (Washington and London). We'll talk about that later today [this part of the transcript isn't complete yet].

On March 18 of this year, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky introduced another package of sanctions against 300 individuals and 141 legal entities. In addition to the Russians, the list includes individual citizens of Iran and Syria, including Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Restrictive measures have been introduced against a number of enterprises of the domestic military-industrial complex, aviation, shipbuilding and automotive industries, including the Kalashnikov, Almaz-Antey concerns, as well as several companies from Iran and the UAE.

The Kiev regime deliberately put the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions on the stream. This is done in order to keep their own policies afloat, including in the West, and to continue to do what they do best and in which they have no equal today – professional begging against the background of the total destruction of everything that was created by generations before them.

The "collective West" does not stop pumping the Kiev regime with weapons. On March 20 of this year, the Pentagon reported that since the beginning of the special military operation, the amount of American military assistance to Ukraine amounted to more than $ 32.5 billion. According to the head of the US Defense Department L. Austin, 9 NATO countries agreed to provide Kiev with more than 150 Leopard tanks for the formation of 9 tank brigades.

The EU announced the allocation of funds for the purchase of over 1 million shells for the armed forces of Ukraine. Money for these purposes is about $ 2 billion. – will traditionally be taken from the "European Peace Foundation".

On March 21 of this year, British Deputy Defence Minister Anna Goldie made absolutely irresponsible statements, announcing London's intention to transfer to Kiev, in addition to Challenger 2 tanks, also armor-piercing shells equipped with depleted uranium warheads. These words have been confirmed also these days at the official level additionally in the UK. It wasn't a caveat or another mistake. No, this is nonsense, confirmed at the official level by the UK.

All this is additional evidence of the aggressive intentions of the West, which does not need peace in Ukraine, in the region, and in the whole world. He is obsessed with the maniacal idea of inflicting a "strategic defeat" on Russia and is ready to sacrifice an entire country, peoples, millions of lives for the sake of this. We are ready to do everything if only this painful idea of the dominance of one's own exclusivity has practical confirmation through such destructive logic and its implementation.

This is confirmed by the words of US Secretary of State E. Blinken. Commenting on the visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping to Moscow, he directly stated the inadmissibility of a ceasefire in Ukraine. Let me remind you that the fund through which American satellites in Europe send money to the Kiev regime is called the European Peace Foundation. E. Blinken believes that there is no possibility of a ceasefire. How these things fit together in the same minds is completely incomprehensible. There can be only one answer – somewhere they openly and cynically lie. Obviously where. It's not a "peace fund" or a European one or any other. This "fund" should have long been renamed the "war fund". Then everything will be logical. And nothing will contradict each other.

Zelensky's regime continues to fight dissent and potential opponents. Recently, the Verkhovna Rada approved in the first reading the bill "On Strengthening Democratic Civil Control over the Armed Forces of Ukraine". It restricts the ability of military personnel to participate in the political life of the country. Clear. The political life of the Kiev regime is something sacred and belongs to those who occupied the offices on Bankova Street. And those to whom the Kiev regime together with V.A. Zelensky arranged their fate and form their reality as cannon fodder should not care about any management institutions and the implementation of such opportunities. They will be prohibited from such options as becoming deputies of any level, making public statements. They are limited in any manifestation of their own opinion on domestic political issues. Why do you think that is? Because the Kiev regime has fully (to the extent that it can even realize something) understood the inevitability of its own collapse and is trying to do at least something to postpone this terrible moment for them for a little. I want to disappoint them. The terrible moment for them has come a long time ago. The lack of conscience and any morality prevented them from realizing this.

By closing its mouth to its own military, the Kiev regime, in fact, is trying not only to hide the truth about what is happening in the combat zone. The story is much worse. Ukraine, torn apart by Western experiments, subjected to the pitting of its people against each other by the very political forces led by the West, plunges into what from the point of view of the program statements of its leadership was their terrible dream. You remember (not to mention Vladimir Zelensky and before him, and everyone else) how they said only that they see the future of Ukraine in the first as a democratic and free state, where every person has the right to say what he sees fit, has the right to participate in public and political life, that all power institutions should be controlled by the media in accordance with the law for openness and transparency in order to overcome. Unfortunately, there are ancestral problems for this country, namely the total dominance of corruption, bureaucracy and their merging.

I would like to remind you that in the words of the same Vladimir Zelensky, it was the word "freedom" that was in the first place, ahead of such concepts as well-being, economic growth, and financial stability. No, all this, of course, was important, but in second place, and in the first place is "freedom" and through the comma "freedom" and "peace". Take a look. At first, the Kiev regime struck a blow at the world, because they allowed the West to turn itself into a NATO bridgehead against Russia, to pump itself up with weapons, to sell and be bought. Then the blow came on freedom. At first, everything "went" gradually: repressions were launched against political figures, political scientists, and then journalists. After that, murders, disappearances, harassment, harassment and persecution of various species began. Then there was open censorship. And all this began long before 2022, pressure was exerted on the channels, and they were closed, reformatted and withdrawn in favor of other forces of influence. Then something happened that could not be put in any barrier, because the scale of the disaster was irreversible. The formation of a total dictatorship of one representative of the current group of power (directly V.A. Zelensky) began. There was only one channel for the dissemination of information. Everyone else had to be built into the mainstream. Total and severe censorship was visible behind everything that is published by the Ukrainian media. It was not just persecution that began, but real kidnappings, their disappearances are no longer as an isolated incident, but as a system.

Today, all this was enshrined, at least in the first reading, in the new law. This law does not just "put an end" (there is no longer room for crosses), but fixes the irrevocable departure of the current "group" of ruling people from the principles (at least in words voiced by them. there will be no return. It will only get worse).

Kiev sees another threat to itself in the preservation of the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church. Why? Probably because, as the saying goes (if you recall the terminology of the mid-twentieth century) "did not ziganuli". They did not swear allegiance to the criminals and did not retreat from what was inherited by their ancestors as covenants. On March 20 of this year, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy refused to meet with members of the Holy Synod who tried to urge him to prevent the escalation of the interfaith situation in the country and to stop the persecution against clerics and laity of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. They tried to do everything in their power to take advantage of the remnants of any system of communication between citizens and what is called (or used to be called) the state, and today is the Kiev regime. They urged to leave alone the Orthodox shrine - the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, to prevent its transfer to the schismatics. They tried to talk and be listened to. Even that was denied.

Apparently, the current Ukrainian god-fighters from power do not intend to stop. On March 21 of this year, the chairman of the Ternopil Regional Council M.I. Holovko said that the expulsion of the clergy of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church from another holy Orthodox monastery – the Pochayiv Lavra – is a strategic task (terrible words, but they said it), which should be solved in the near future. We talked about all these trends at international venues, sent letters, reports and reports, appealed and urged, explained long and hard when it could still be prevented. I am referring not only to the split and absolute violation of everything that was proclaimed as high ideals in Ukraine, and in Europe too.

In principle, it would be possible to use this topic in order to prevent the degradation of the general situation on the territory of Ukraine. The international community, in the form of Western countries blocking any discussion of these topics, was silent. Someone did not want to understand, someone to hear. Someone heard and understood everything, but did not want to do anything. And someone opposed and did it actively.

The new stage of the religious war in Ukraine started by the Kiev regime will not lead to anything good. The consequences will be tragic.

All these events, especially the UK's decision to supply armor-piercing shells with depleted uranium, show that neither Kiev nor its Western curators are interested in resolving the conflict. They are interested in the opposite – in escalating the situation. They do not care that by their actions they are turning Ukraine into a real scorched field (in the context of shells with united uranium, this will sound in the literal sense of the word), and now also into a source of radiation pollution.

For these reasons, the special military operation will continue. The goals and objectives outlined by the Russian leadership were repeatedly reconfirmed by him. We will once again return to the fundamental principles that, unfortunately, have now been trampled on the territory of Ukraine, in order to demonstrate everything that is happening there and give an objective assessment of it. [My Emphasis]

I'll look for the additional discussion that's noted above.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 23 2023 17:34 utc | 10

Russia is doomed ... doomed ...

The President of Finland approved the 14th package of military assistance to Kyiv, including three Leopard 2 tanks, the head of the Ministry of Defense said.

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Resident (Rezident_UA) (TG):

The main problem for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is that next week there will be heavy rains and we will have to wait for dry weather again, according to forecasts of the (AFU) General Staff, this is mid-April. In such a situation, the only option left is a concentrated strike at Krasnoe in the south of Bakhmut, which is known to the enemy (RF). In two weeks of downtime, we (AFU) can lose most of the districts in Bakhmut, and Syrsky must now solve this problem so as not to lose control over the city.

Hm, single axis of advance, concentration of massed troops, narrow frontage, limited traffic-ability. Marvelous.

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A rather motivational pointed pep talk ... translated text, clip in Russian here. Kotnews, Telegram.

Medvedev read Stalin's telegram dated September 17, 1941, to the directors of military-industrial enterprises:

"We cannot tolerate our troops suffering at the front from a lack of tanks, while you chill and idle in the far rear."

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 23 2023 17:37 utc | 11

ISW saying again that Russia running out of precision missiles. How many more times are we going to hear that? They claim there are less being used. Perhaps Ukraine's air defence depletion means less missiles achieves the same result as three months ago.

Posted by: Truthsayer | Mar 23 2023 16:43 utc | 2

They are not running out but they are also not using them as they should be.

The situation is very reminiscent to the one from August 2022 -- once again there are these large concentrations of UA forces for a rumored counteroffensive, the pro-RU crowd is dismissing it as not a serious threat, and we know how that ended.

Because back then for some inexplicable reason Russians did not make much of an effort to destroy them with stand off weapons before they could launch that counteroffensive, nor did they make any effort at all to isolate the battlefield.

The worry is that it's the same shit now -- Konstantinovka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk are supposedly getting hit daily but what is getting hit? Nobody is told anything, but if they were hitting what needs to be hit, there would be no possibility of a counteroffensive, and yet here we are.

Videos are circulating of large Ukrainian columns of lightly armored vehicles that could be taken out quite easily with a quick strike, but they are not touched? Why? How many times do we have to go through that?

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 17:41 utc | 12

Truthsayer | Mar 23 2023 16:43 utc | 2 ...run out of precision missiles...

In 2020 RU had 13 Iskander brigades, each having 12 units with 2 missiles on the erecter-launcher and 2 on the loader vehicle. That makes 48 missiles in a brigade, 624 in full. Warehouses not counting. I guess the majority is fitted with a guidance system (CEP 7 meters) and I'd call that precision missiles. The un-guided ones have a CEP of 50 - 100 meters and can be used for cluster ammunition in open field- (not so much in trench- and urban-) warfares, and/or for nuclear heads. Both scenarios don't happen at the moment.
While ("...quite a few...") Iskanders have been tested in the SMO (e.g. novel AD decoys), they have been rarely used. Reports are scarce. Two dozen is my guess. -- I would not count on reports that they run out of these. More likely, they are spared for any NATO escalation / times after declaration of war. For that, also Belarus has Iskanders now, as Reuters informed on Februar 1, 2023.

Quote from a RUSI article, Aug. 2022

The role of Iskanders in supporting Russia’s non-strategic nuclear arsenal means that they are not only a war-shaping capability, but also potentially critical to strategies for war termination.
At a strategic level, the system is likely to be central to any Russian attempt at escalation management and war termination through either targeting of critical infrastructure across Europe with conventional precision strikes

On the far side, exactly one year ago, BBC spread the news that "Russian forces have 3 days of food and ammunition left". Sic.

Posted by: OttoE | Mar 23 2023 17:44 utc | 13

Russia has returned to these lands forever (there is no doubt about this)

Well, it returned to Kherson "forever" too, and then left.

And neither Putin nor any other senior official has said a word about that for more than four months now. Not a single word. When is it going to be returned, how, etc. It's a regional capital of the RF we are talking about, and they are constitutionally obliged to regain control over it.

And when the KPRF filed an inquiry regarding the matter, United Russia blocked it.

So such claims are very hollow at the moment after that debacle.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 17:45 utc | 14

Russia is doomed ... doomed ...

The President of Finland approved the 14th package of military assistance to Kyiv, including three Leopard 2 tanks, the head of the Ministry of Defense said.

Laugh at it, but Finland just got into NATO.

Which means NATO bases and eventually presumably short range missiles within very close proximity to both Murmansk and St. Petersburg.

What did Putin do to stop that? Absolutely nothing.

What could he have done? There were plenty of kinetic options (e.g. take over a few towns so that there is a border dispute and Finland cannot join NATO because of that, destroy all airfields and military bases and make it clear that this is just a warning and strategic strikes will follow if the application is not withdrawn -- they lived in near perfect peace for 70 years with no threat to Finland, but now Finland is a hostile actor and it's there fault, etc. etc.). None of those options will be options very soon.

Such a marvelous display of strategy...

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 17:54 utc | 15

The tide is going out. . .

My media-area is being drawn to naming the US as the damn #@%&*(.
I'm much more condemning but this is a win.

Popular opinion does pay the taxes (if only in disguise).

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Mar 23 2023 18:01 utc | 16

Senior US military officers believe Ukraine has no chance of winning...

Meeting at the British foreign affairs think tank Chatham House, US military personnel, intelligence officials, and academics concluded that Ukraine, even with the help of the West, cannot compete in any way

📝"Russia is much bigger than Ukraine in terms of manpower and resources, money, and alliances with other major powers such as China and India." Most of the Ukrainian army has perished, with its best US-trained soldiers now becoming war casualties. "Ukrainian prowess was real, but Russia was nevertheless able to win this war based on its vast resources," the American Thinker article says

US experts and generals are confident that the result will be a "humiliating" truce for Ukraine and the West. It is assumed that Ukraine will disappear altogether. Everything to the west of the Dnieper will be transferred to Poland; the east will remain under Russian control

Posted by: Dferg | Mar 23 2023 18:04 utc | 17

@ Dferg | Mar 23 2023 18:04 utc | 17

That was quick, only 14 months since commencement of hostilities. A link please ?

Cheers

&

Laugh at it, but Finland just got into NATO.

Au contraire, will laugh at it & all your posts, huge belly-laugh uproarious guffaws! If you think Finland abandoning its faux neutrality to join derelict NATO given the length of it's border with RF, it's population size & state of it's military, as former territories of the then Russian Empire for over a century, is a great strategy, you're an even bigger fool than you are a Troll.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 23 2023 18:17 utc | 18

elmer fudd and his one horse talky point. Even the usa NIH has spoken that DU offers increased cancers and kidney problems, you can quote the BBC or Royal Hospital or any other government funded organisation , like any science today they give user pays results. trust us DDT is safe , trust us agent orange is safe , trust us thalidamide is safe, trust us mRna injections are safe, trust us DU is safe, sorry the empire of lies is talking in you, and after reading dozens of posts all trying the same wedge , i have to say enough. My view is why not contaminate the great food bowl of Europe agricultural land Blackrock and co. are about to lose, Then no one can export from it because suddenly your harmless radiation will be deemed harmful and become the reason to quarantine grain sales from this area.

Posted by: hankster | Mar 23 2023 18:25 utc | 19

Double envelopments are a new thing, didn't really see it good before. Now it looks like it forces supply routes to go closer to fire control zones at minimal territorial control necessary. Bahkmut is showing clearly now in the city itself.

It also forces one to move roads to get around the inner ring, which may be valuable in slowing movement restricting max throughout.

Interesting...

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 23 2023 18:26 utc | 20

hankster @19--

It announces its intentions with its moniker--Fudd--and has beyond outed itself.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 23 2023 18:30 utc | 21

Such a marvelous display of strategy...

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 17:54 utc | 15

#######################

Friend, don't be that guy in the trench that the other soldiers want to slip a live grenade under while he is asleep.

It is easy for you criticize the moves (or lack thereof) by others on the internet with little of the information, and none of the responsibility.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 23 2023 18:33 utc | 22

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 17:54 utc | 15

First, I just want to thank you for generously permitting those with differing analyses to post on YOUR comment section. ;>)

Seriously ... you take very strident positions on Russian strategic initiatives and campaigns that are ostensibly known only to those in the Kremlin and General Staff.

Could you please share ... generally ... what your particular bona fides are to make these judgements and statements? Do you have any military experience in War planning or direction that we can consider with respect and import? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | Mar 23 2023 18:37 utc | 23

Dugin has a piece up about the Russia/Chinese relationship, and how their different perspectives and interests keep one from dominating the other outright.

AXIS MOSCOW - BEIJING 2.0


For Moscow, Chairman Xi's visit at such a difficult moment is very important. It shows that the great power, China, is not at all in solidarity with attempts to isolate Russia on the international stage, as the West seeks to do, and that relations between countries and peoples are at a historical peak.

This is roughly how the responsible Russian expert community sees Xi Jinping's visit. This is a symbolic gesture of the established multipolarity represented by two world leaders who fully agree with each other on the main parameters of the future.

However, other voices are also heard in Russia. We can sometimes hear opinion that China is playing its own game, is not going to actually help Russia in its head-on confrontation with the West, and is ready to enter into separate negotiations with Washington. This is all the more possible because the Chinese economy is too dependent on Western markets, and China itself is not yet ready for a frontal conflict with the West and will try to postpone it as much as possible or avoid it altogether. But in the meantime, Russia may have fallen on hard times. The main topic of such fears is China's lack of readiness to provide military assistance to Russia.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 23 2023 18:39 utc | 24

Au contraire, will laugh at it & all your posts, huge belly-laugh uproarious guffaws! If you think Finland abandoning its faux neutrality to join derelict NATO given the length of it's border with RF, it's population size & state of it's military, as former territories of the then Russian Empire for over a century, is a great strategy, you're an even bigger fool than you are a Troll.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 23 2023 18:17 utc | 18

This is just imbecilic.

Norway hasn't been too much of a problem because Norway didn't situate offensive installations close to Murmansk. Which in turn was because during the Cold War there was a level of mutual respect and fear that is now long forgotten. Finland is already sufficiently rabidly Russophobic to allow to be used as such a platform, and that means St. Petersburg and Murmansk at direct gunpoint as well as the whole railway that supplies the Northern Fleet, which runs not too far from the border.

Is RU going to destroy launch facilities on NATO territory if nukes are to be stationed within 2-3 minutes flight from St. Petersburg?

It hasn't done so with Aegis Ashore in Poland and Romania, so there is no reason to think it will do so with Finland.

But if it doesn't do anything to stop nukes from being situated there, then the nuclear gun is right at its temple, and the power balance has shifted.

And if it can't do anything to stop it on NATO territory, then Finland must not be allowed to become NATO territory.

It's that simple.

What is the plan here? Please enlighten us.

P.S. RU has a window of 2-3 years to inflict a decisive military defeat on NATO. After that NATO gets hypersonics in numbers and the geographic encirclement factor once again tips the balance of power massively in their favor.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 18:41 utc | 25

@ Neofeudalfuture | Mar 23 2023 18:26 utc | 20
expanding an envelopment inwards and outwards decreases the risk of getting one of the "pincers" cut off, (creating two rings if you will)

Posted by: ctiger | Mar 23 2023 18:42 utc | 26

Scholz received instructions in Washington to cover up the Nord Stream blast!
.
Seymour Hersh, who has accused the US government of blowing up the Nord Streams, has published a new article saying Scholz received instructions from Biden to cover up US involvement during his Washington visit.
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Continue reading
https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2023/scholz-became-in-washington-instructions-for-covering-up-the-nord-stream-blasting/?doing_wp_cron=1679597900.8718299865722656250000

Posted by: mo3 | Mar 23 2023 18:58 utc | 27

@ ctiger | Mar 23 2023 18:42 utc | 26

Indeed.

ie Battle/Siege of Alesia, the Roman army of Julius Caesar against a confederation of Gallic tribes united under the leadership of Vercingetorix of the Arverni, 52 BC. Though contrary to the dictum of Dangerous vs Deadly ground. Sun Tzu would not be amused.

Cheers.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 23 2023 19:05 utc | 28

@ Dferg, §17:
There´s no way Russia will agree to Poland taking over the Ukraine west of the Dnieper.
That would just continue this sorry saga, especially in view of Poland´s stated intention to declare war on Russia if the Ukraine is defeated. And the Russians won´t stop at the Dnieper, at least as far as the coastal oblasts are concerned. They´ll annex the coast up to the Dniester. Otherwise NATO just uses Odessa as a naval base to keep the war going.
The Ukraine will be left as a rump of six oblasts (Kiev, Zhitomir, Xmelnitsky, Vinnitsa, Cherkassy and Yelizavetgrad. If they´re lucky, Chernigov and Poltava may be included. Its name will be changed to Chornarus, Malorus or Novorus or something: "the Ukraine" will disappear.
The Galicia-Wolyn area, which Russia isn´t interested in, will nevertheless be occupied and the Russians may acquiesce to Galician autonomy under Polish rule - but only if Poland declares peace, leaves NATO and demilitarizes (no foreign troops).
Same is true of Bessarabia with regards to Rumania.

Posted by: John Marks | Mar 23 2023 19:06 utc | 29

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Mar 23 2023 17:06 utc | 6

Anything to do with Putin or the UK's depleted uranium shells aside, what *does* the US use to manufacture its own DU ammunition?

As to the US military being extremely careful with anything, puh-leez. Ask the residents of Camp Lejeune or the children in Iraq born with cancer caused by US DU ammunition. I've even heard stories about US troops guarding DU ammunition coming down with cancer and other illnesses.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 23 2023 19:10 utc | 30

Re: Elmer Fudd | Mar 23 2023 17:06 utc | 6

you wrote:

" . . . the US Navy refuses to deploy tactical nuclear weapons that utilize Plutonium rather than Uranium-235 for the fissile material. Plutonium -239 which has a half-life of 24,0⁰0 years is about 20,000 times as radioactive as Uranium-235 which has a half-life of about 450 million years. Even bomb grade Plutonium contains significant quantities of Pu-238 which has a much shorter half-life of 89 years as well as Pu-240 which undergoes spontaneous fission. Since crew bunk in the torpedo room, the Navy doesn't want Plutonium fueled bombs. Air Force crews spend far less time in proximity to nuclear weapons and are separated by more distance, so Plutonium fueled bombs are less problematic."

Where in hell did you come up with that? Plutonium predominantly emits alpha particles – a type of radiation that is easily stopped and has a short range. You can hold plutonium in your hand and the alpha particles won't penetrate your skin.

No HEU warheads are used anywhere in the US nuclear arsenal.

Reason: critical mass of HEU is greater than Pu, so primaries must be bigger. This is not just a matter of throw-weight and warhead volume but also radiation per unit fissile material during detonation. Radiation from Pu primaries, used to implode secondaries, is MUCH greater -- I think proportional to fourth power of temperature as I recall, ceteris paribus. More mass, lower temperature.

You might ask the sailors aboard the USS Ronald Reagan how much the US military worries about radiation exposures.

Stick with Bugs Bunny and skip the comments until you do your homework.

Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 23 2023 19:10 utc | 31

About that depleted Uranium.
Depleted Uranium can be handled safely as solid slugs.
But, when used as tank ammunition, it becomes FAR more dangerous.

1. When the round hits tank armor, a large fraction of it instantly vaporizes and the rest can fragment. It then forms uranium oxide dust and can be inhaled or settle into the soil. When that happens, it can be easily ingested by breathing contaminated air or eating food grown in the soil. It can accumulate in body tissues.

2. Uranium is also a heavy metal chemical toxin like lead or mercury.

The long term effects are now well documented from Iraq and Serbia.
So, some of Ukraine's fertile fields where the battles are taking place can become too toxic to live or farm there.
Of course, this the US/UK strategy of scorched earth in defeat.
Since this now Russian territory and will stay that way, Russia will be forced to somehow deal with this contamination.
Russia has every right to prevent this ecological disaster in whatever way they find appropriate.

Posted by: Mar man | Mar 23 2023 19:11 utc | 32

Plutonium is a pure alpha emitter, your skin will shield you from Alpha particle radiation. My guess is that depleted uranium is about the same. The problem is when it gets inside you which it will when it's vaporized which it will be when shells hit. Once inside it causes Cancers and other mutations including the cells that become children. Tritium T3O is a low energy Beta emitter and requires minimal shielding but since it's a form of water you don't want it inside you, more Cancer and mutations. Besides when you add T3O to an atomic bomb it becomes a hydrogen bomb with exponential greater energy. Works well for runway lights in remote areas too. I don't believe that you could be more evil than the USA and neither did MLK.

Posted by: Bob | Mar 23 2023 19:15 utc | 33

@ John Marks | Mar 23 2023 19:06 utc | 29

Concur. Found the unlinked ref:

It slowly dawns on the West that Ukraine is not going to win - TheAmericanThinker Blog, Mar21'23

Writer David Goldman, who writes as the brilliant "Spengler" at Asia Times, foresees an ending of sorts to the Ukraine conflict, based on the West's inability to supply the resources to keep an extended war coming.

In his latest Asia Times piece, he noted the private thinking going on of people who make up the foreign policy community:

A gloomy assessment of Ukraine’s prospects for victory against Russia emerged from a recent private gathering of former top US soldiers, intelligence officials and scholars with resumes reaching from the Reagan to the Trump administrations.

Short of trained personnel and ammunition, one speaker argued, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky might consider a Chinese peace plan, especially after Beijing’s successful mediation of the Iran-Saudi dispute.

The several dozen attendees, many of whom had held cabinet or sub-cabinet positions, met under Chatham House rules, which forbid identification of individual participants but allow the content itself to be presented.

...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 23 2023 19:15 utc | 34

shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 17:54 utc | 15

spend a bit of time cogitating rather b4 typing!

what you scream about was the situation up to the 'inf' treaty of 1988! which the side walked away from.

both sides had irbms and ground launched cruise missile with launch to bang times too short for the surveillance and control of those days!

somehow world survived.

buh bye!

read up on tom schilling etc on nutual hostaging!

Posted by: paddy | Mar 23 2023 19:23 utc | 35

Posted by: Bob | Mar 23 2023 19:15 utc | 33

"The problem is when it gets inside you which it will when it's vaporized which it will be when shells hit. Once inside it causes Cancers and other mutations including the cells that become children."

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Totally correct, Bob. This is precisely the issue of this type of ammo.
The problem is not external radiation, but the internal radiation which you get when you inhale or ingest particles.
And that is extremely dangerous.

Posted by: Verdant | Mar 23 2023 19:28 utc | 36

@26 cheers thanks that's a good point.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 23 2023 19:38 utc | 37

Dferg | Mar 23 2023 18:04 utc | 17

the us' pentagon is horrified it may be shown totally inept after 30 odd years spending on profits from expensive weapons which could not operate in ukraine!

high profit, spending on unilateral disarmament.

the euro part of nato is disarmed on the cheap less than 2% gdp!

usa should have killed: b-2, c-17, f-22, f-35, mv 22, ford class carriers, virginia class subs, etc. and bought guns, shells and refueling vehicles....

Posted by: paddy | Mar 23 2023 19:39 utc | 38

U235,pu238 and pu239 are primarily alpha emitters so the radiation danger from them is similar, despite the different specific activity of each.

United Kingdom has reprocessed used nuclear fuel, so their depleted uranium could be from reprocessing.

Posted by: mi | Mar 23 2023 19:50 utc | 39

Re Hankster, #19.

Quote the BBC as an expert source?

Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Mar 23 2023 19:52 utc | 40

280 Membrum Virile
285 karlof1
284 Outraged

Thank you all sincerely for your responses and thoughts of Medvedev's modern role and future in the previous thread.

Posted by: NJH | Mar 23 2023 19:57 utc | 41

Re: Verdant | Mar 23 2023 19:28 utc | 36 and Bob | Mar 23 2023 19:15 utc | 33

Agree, it is the internal exposure to DU that poses a danger to those such afflicted.

I will summarize the writing of Paul Zimmerman below, which partially explains why this is the case.

What is not widely understood is that there is a fundamental difference between the refined and concentrated uranium metal as opposed to exposure of the ubiquitous uranium found in nature. This is because "the non-depleted uranium that is present in nature is, for the most part, found in low concentrations in soil, rock and water. Its concentration is routinely measured in parts per million.

According to the IAEA: The average concentration of natural uranium in soil is about 2 parts per million, which is equivalent to 2 grams of uranium in 1000 kg of soil. Proponents of DU frequently justify the safety of these weapons on the grounds that human beings are constantly exposed to uranium and show no ill effects. This argument is fancy footwork, but ultimately, hokum. DU munitions contain uranium in concentrations that are hundreds of thousands of times greater than the non-depleted uranium found in nature. With the possible exception of a small number of workers in limited sectors of the uranium fuel cycle and some who are involved in the fabrication of components for nuclear weapons, no human being on planet earth receives acute internal exposure to concentrated uranium at levels comparable to those who inhale particles of DU."

When this material is ingested or inhaled, the exposure is totally unnatural. The internalized particles are concentrated uranium. Once embedded in tissue, they act as point sources of radiation, and their level of radioactivity far exceeds that from naturally occurring uranium in the environment.

In other words, a particle of metallic uranium238 is going to emit a great deal more concentrated radiation than you would experience if you ingest or inhale naturally occurring uranium.

The other issue that comes into play here is how the biological effect of internal radiation exposures from such ingested or inhaled radionuclides are estimated using the current radiation safety standards. Tiny clusters of cells that surround a particle of DU (or cesium-138, strontium-90, etc., etc.) receive a relatively high dose of ionizing radiation, however, the standards average the dose over the entire organ system where it is absorbed.

Advocates for these standards will say that they take into consideration this dilutional effect by using "quality factors" or "weighing factors" because, for example, the formulas will multiply the effect times 20 for alpha particles. However, this is more than offset when the dose is averaged over the entire tissue mass wherein the dose is absorbed. It is like multiplying by 20 and then dividing by a million.

This is why there is such a discrepancy between the observed effects of so-called "low-dose" internal radiation exposures and the horrendous health effects created in young children living in regions that have been grossly contaminated by the fallout from the Chernobyl disaster. See Radioactive Cesium and the Human Heart" by Dr. Yuri Bandazhevsky.

Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 23 2023 20:06 utc | 42

My God some people on this forum are impervious to facts and information.

Somehow I got a typo on the Half-life of Plutonium -239. It is twenty-four thousand years. That is far shorter than the half-life of Uranium -238 which is over four billion years!

I'm very well aware of the fact that it is easy to shield against Alpha radiation. However; both Uranium and Plutonium also emit Gamma radiation when they emit an Alpha particle. Various Plutonium isotopes also fission spontaneously to emit Neurons. You need about a meter of concrete to reduce the radiation dose by 99.9%.

What is truly sad is that the ignorance in the DU issue is so similar to the propaganda that effectively shut down the United States' nuclear power program. If America were more energy independent, America might not have fought the first gulf War. America then would not have been attacked on 9-11 which provoked the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Mar 23 2023 20:08 utc | 43

@ Bob | Mar 23 2023 19:15 utc | 33

My understanding is a large proportion of a uranium projectile spontaneously combusts upon high energy impact with and penetration of a target. For a tank crew it can mean a fiery death. The oxides mentioned are from this combustion.

Regardless of the amount of residual radioactivity or not, it is a terrible poison to release upon a land, a people, or an ecosystem. Basically it seems like a terrible nuclear waste disposal solution for those without morals.

Posted by: anon1 | Mar 23 2023 20:11 utc | 44

Re: Elmer Fudd | Mar 23 2023 20:08 utc | 43

What is truly sad is that you continue to post nonsense.

I take it from your previous post that US subs should put a meter of concrete around their nuclear weapons to keep the crew safe from the HEU, no, wait, Plutonium?

Kill the Wabbit!

Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 23 2023 20:13 utc | 45

@ mo3 | Mar 23 2023 18:58 utc | 27

THIS PAGE COULD NOT BE FOUND.
Nothing could be found at this location.

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link to colonel macgregors commentary from 8 hours ago...

Massive Russian offensives are underway to terminate Ukraine

Posted by: james | Mar 23 2023 20:16 utc | 46

"...Laugh at it, but Finland just got into NATO..." shadowbanned@15

The belief that loading a sinking ship with millions of rats-even those of the furriest northern kind- will add to its buoyancy is an error often found among landlubbers.

Finland owes its independence and continued national existence largely to the good graces and pacific intentions of Russian governments. And yet it rarely misses an opportunity to show its ingratitude. In the last world war it was, of all the allies attacking Russia under Hitler's leadership, the most generously treated after the war.

Its, as Outraged says, 'faux' neutrality was the minimal price the Soviet Union asked for overlooking the Finnish role in the siege of Leningrad, a holocaust on its own.

As to Sweden, which prospered supplying the Nazi war machine, it is sad to see another nation's leadership selling their country's future for the price of a few scholarships to Universities far inferior to its own. Not least because part of the price they pay for being accepted as US satraps is the dismantling of the social safety nets their ancestors sacrificed so much to leave to them .

Posted by: bevin | Mar 23 2023 20:17 utc | 47

well said bevin.. thank you for saying all that...

Posted by: james | Mar 23 2023 20:21 utc | 48

Posted by: ctpalmer | Mar 23 2023 16:52 utc | 4

They hate the truth.

Posted by: Colin | Mar 23 2023 17:22 utc | 8

They don't understand sarcasm, satire or black humour either.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Mar 23 2023 20:24 utc | 49

Umpteenth request to STOP RESPONDING TO THE FUCKING CONCERN TROLL!! YOU ARE WHY HE IS HERE! GET A FUCKING CLUE!

But I digress...

Here are two links from Martyanov which are worth considerably more of your time than RESPONDING TO THE FUCKING CONCERN TROLL!

First, Larry Johnson on the possibility of a Bakhmut offensive:

Is Ukraine On the Verge of Launching A Counter Offensive at Bakhmut?
https://sonar21.com/is-ukraine-on-the-verge-of-launching-a-counter-offensive-at-bakhmut/

I received the following from a friend who is well plugged in with the Ukrainian side. I consider his information reliable:

Volodomyr Zelensky visited Chasov Yar today to kick off an offensive to relieve Bakhmut and push the Russians back. A number of armored and artillery brigades are being moved down from the North to support such a relief operation.

Chasov Yar may be four or so miles from Bakhmut. Zelensky can no longer chance a visit to Bakhmut as he did earlier this month.

As we have noted before there are somewhere between 15 to 20,000 UKA fighting inside Bakhmut, and the UKA area of control is shrinking and also bifurcated between a larger group in the western center of the city and the remainder in the north east of the city.

Sources report that Leopard and Challenger tanks have been moved into position for the relief operation, even though the room for tank operations is not great because of the bad weather, rain and mud.

Some experts think this relief operation will last only four or five days and may start as early as tomorrow. It can’t go much longer than that because the UKA has limited reserves and cannot afford a long battle or stalemate with the Russians.

It is anticipated this will be a very bloody battle and could be decisive for both sides.

Zelensky is acting outside of the advice he is getting from the US/NATO which desires a frontal attack on Crimea and not at Bakhmut or, further to the south, Avdviika, which is also under Russian attack and potential encirclement.

If the Russians lose at Bakhmut it pressages a much longer war, perhaps years.

Up till now the Russians have been operating slowly and methodically, but this will go out the window with a fierce rescue operation.

If the Ukrainians lose, it suggests that the UKA will have squandered much of its offensive capability, and it could lead to a chaotic outcome.

Larry then goes on to discuss the likelihood of Ukraine being successful at this alleged "relief operation" (we can't call it an "offensive").

Then we have Scott Ritter and Andrei Martyanov (for the bloviating hater, of course) on Garland Nixon's Youtube channel:

THE UKRAINE CRISIS - WITH SCOTT RITTER AND ANDREI MARTYANOV - VOLUME TWO (1 hour 18 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIJoFjqg80M

Spend your valuable time on these and NOT on RESPONDING TO THE FUCKING CONCERN TROLL.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 20:28 utc | 50

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 18:41 utc | 25

Or Russia is aware of this catch-up dynamic and is leveraging the fact that it’s counter-technologies can be tested against working hyper-sonic targets, not theoretical computer simulations.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 23 2023 20:29 utc | 51

Posted by: Milites | Mar 23 2023 20:29 utc | 50

Did you not read what I just said?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 20:32 utc | 52

Translated:

Ukraine, from RiaFan.ru

The head of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Social Policy, Galina Tretyakova, announced the abolition of lifetime benefits for participants in hostilities. The official noted that today some of them actually do not work due to the inability of the budget of Ukraine to provide these preferences. Instead, special scholarships are proposed for two to three years.

US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said that Washington will transfer to Ukraine 31 Abrams tanks from existing stocks, and not produced specifically for it. We are talking about an early modification of the M1A1, which, according to the Pentagon, the military of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will master faster than more advanced models. Thus, the United States intends to reduce the time of delivery of armored vehicles to Kiev.

Abolish Ukrainian veterans benefits ? That's gonna be great for morale at the Home Front & those in uniform. Corrupt OUN-B Nazi Killer Clowns.

Early M1A1's ? Last manufactured 1992, 4800 in use or reserve war stocks. Includes composite DU mesh armor. Could be transferred from NATO's US forward deployed stocks. Anticipated to be delivered to Ukraine by the Fall. Training of AFU crews yet to be organized ...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 23 2023 20:34 utc | 53

I have seen some bone-headed moves in my day, but Finland trying to join NATO takes the cake. Don't they know that a big part of why the Ukrainians are going to be missing generations of men is because they tried to join NATO???!? Is Finland somehow jealous of what Ukraine has done to themselves and wants some of that on their previously sovereign land. I don't get it man. Just pure-ty foolishness.

Posted by: LGB! | Mar 23 2023 20:35 utc | 54

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Mar 23 2023 20:08 utc | 43


Various Plutonium isotopes also fission spontaneously to emit Neurons.

Given you seem short a few, may I suggest that you capture them and make use of them?

Posted by: Lengai | Mar 23 2023 20:40 utc | 55

DU munitions are still widespread in U.S and U.K arsenals....most of the tonnage of DU munitions where in the form of automatic cannon in Iraq and the former Yugoslavia....20mm....25mm..30mm and when these penetrator sub calibre projectiles hit they cause aerosolization from impact and incendiary effects. But there are two distinct harmful effects from this toxic dust... radiological and chemical.... radioactive harm from alpha particles ingested or toxicity from this toxic heavy metal. During investigation into Gulf war syndrome...very specific studies from areas where DU munitions where used showed very substantial increases in overall mortality and congenital birth defects...very substantial increases in chromosome abnormalities in Bosnia and Kosovo. Now even though there is no specific ban on DU munitions because they kill by kinetic energy and not residual effects...there have been several attempts to address the environmental effects of these weapons... several nations have introduced bans on DU munitions and composite armour using this material. Regardless...I'm sure U.S would shit a chicken if someone dispersed these aerosolized DU byproduct over the continental united States. The current users of DU would also be setting themselves up for liability for damages done to foreign lands because of their usage of these weapons if they where to sign up for prohibition citing current and past studies. Just another poke of the Bear on the part of those shit eaters hunkered down behind the impenetrable wall of the English channel. This may have had historical relevance in days gone by but these are different times

Posted by: Joe | Mar 23 2023 20:41 utc | 56

"As of today, the enemy has deployed more than 80,000 [servicemen] around Bakhmut..." -Prigozhin

What is Prigozhin trying to say? Mass offensive incoming? Help? Wagoner can handle it?

Tass link- https://tass.com/politics/1593563

Posted by: Ramsey Glissadevil | Mar 23 2023 20:53 utc | 57

In addition to the self sharpening properies, DU is pyrophoric, the outer layer, molecularly speaking, is uranium oxide because it is already in contact with the oxygen in the air. When it hits a target and some of the outer layer peels off and turns into dust, some/most of the dust is the pure uranium that was beneath that outer layer. That pure uranium dust immediately reacts with the oxygen in the air and in the process of becoming uranium oxide it reaches several thousand degrees. So as that DU dart passes through a tank it will incinerate everything inside of it because of the dust generation that is occurring.

Posted by: J | Mar 23 2023 20:55 utc | 58

Spend your valuable time on these and NOT on RESPONDING TO THE FUCKING CONCERN TROLL.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 20:28 utc | 49

So why do you draw attention to the "concern troll" by continuously bellowing about him/her/it?

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Mar 23 2023 21:00 utc | 59

So the 3BM-32 Vant, used in Chechnya and Georgia used a special DU penetrator that helped fertilise the soil? The decision to supply the Ukrainians with these rounds was to stop embarrassing headlines about Challenger 2’s being unable to penetrate modern Russian MBT’s, from the frontal arc. Not evidence of the Wests desire to irradiate Ukraine; after all, 14 Challenger 2’s with life expectancies measured in days are going to be hard pressed to have any meaningful effect on the environment.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 23 2023 21:03 utc | 60

Or Russia is aware of this catch-up dynamic and is leveraging the fact that it’s counter-technologies can be tested against working hyper-sonic targets, not theoretical computer simulations.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 23 2023 20:29 utc | 50

I can't believe what I am reading.

Let's test the A-235s around Moscow with live ICBM fire while we're at it. Why not?

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 21:03 utc | 61

THE UKRAINE CRISIS - WITH SCOTT RITTER AND ANDREI MARTYANOV - VOLUME TWO (1 hour 18 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIJoFjqg80M

Spend your valuable time on these and NOT on RESPONDING TO THE FUCKING CONCERN TROLL.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 20:28 utc | 49

What is the predictive track record of "these" over the last 14 months, and what is the track record of the "concern trolls"?

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 21:05 utc | 62

Posted by: Ramsey Glissadevil | Mar 23 2023 20:53 utc | 56

Either playing his role as the lure or doing what most mercenary commanders do, inflate the risk to inflate the reward, to both their reputation and bank balance.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 23 2023 21:17 utc | 63

Maybe Prigozhin wants to say that now Russia has to apply nuclear weapons?

Posted by: somat | Mar 23 2023 21:18 utc | 64

I was notified this morning by Tik Tok of my account suspension due to me thanking a Ukrainian poster who was lamenting the death and destruction in the Ukraine due to the war; simply expressing my ephemeral gratitude to the Ukrainian government and the Ukrainian people who keep it in power for suffering, dying and sacrificing their country's cities and infrastructure so I could continue enjoying the fruits of US hegemony.

Posted by: ctpalmer | Mar 23 2023 16:52 utc | 4

I thought ByteDance was a Chinese company. Who runs the 'international' TikTok? (I say 'International' to differentiate it from Douyin)

Posted by: joey_n | Mar 23 2023 21:18 utc | 65

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 21:03 utc | 59

Ditto.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 23 2023 21:20 utc | 66

Depleted Uranium .. as dust.
I had a friend that climbed through a range tank target in Panama and 10 years later this metastasized in to a mild cancer that eventually ripped through his body causing a slow, untreatable death of eventual organ failure and debilitating loss of physique. DU dust is nasty. To get treatment, his VA doctor had to make a diagnosis of Lyme disease as the military for years refused to acknowledge the effects of DU.
Just posting this so that you readers can understand the problem a bit better.

Posted by: T S | Mar 23 2023 21:26 utc | 67

Posted by: somat | Mar 23 2023 21:18 utc | 62

He strikes me as the kind of character who’d want to have then in Wagner’s arsenal, just in case. Still, he plays his part well and soon might have the staring role, if Ukraine are stupid enough to launch a relief effort towards Bakhmut.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 23 2023 21:27 utc | 68

Posted by: Milites | Mar 23 2023 21:27 utc | 66

Dima estimates some 80,000 ready to rumble. Should be quite the dust up.

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Mar 23 2023 21:39 utc | 69

@ shadowbanned

First, I appreciate your posts as much as I appreciate anyone else’s here, including regulars, despite your handle appearing only a few months ago.

Russia attacking Finland now would be bad optics. (Yes, I heard you laugh at that.). But if Finland starts installing missiles of any kind, Russia can take them out — “We allowed a defensive pact but will not allow massing nuclear-ambiguous missiles on our border” — with better justification for the global audience.

I certainly don’t dismiss your concern. The small number of native Finns means increasingly little in a world of increasing automation.

Posted by: natokraine | Mar 23 2023 21:43 utc | 70

The numerous US war crimes in Iraq include the use of uranium weapons (not just DU but also enriched uranium was detected)

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2013/3/15/iraq-wars-legacy-of-cancer

The horrific, heart-breaking consequences of contaminating the environment with nano-sized uranium particles (which lead to chromosome breaks and permanent genetic damage when they reach the germ cells) can be seen here - WARNING: These babies are severely malformed and it is very hard to look at the pictures but we must face the bitter truth:

This is a crime against humanity (much worse than anything the Nazis did) because it affects many generations (people, animals, crops) long after the "kinetic" war is over ...(NATO also used uranium weapons in Serbia / Bosnia...as a consequence leukemia-rates skyrocketed... 20yr olds died within 18 months)

https://www.facebook.com/fallujahhospital2012/

Perhaps we should send these pictures to the UK government ... would it make a difference?


https://www.veteranstoday.com/2021/06/02/brits-in-coverup-of-us-tactical-nuke-use-in-iraq

Interview with Dr. Chris Busby about the high cancer-rates and birth-defects

Posted by: Pandora | Mar 23 2023 21:46 utc | 71

Posted by: james | Mar 23 2023 20:16 utc | 45

Try this (in German):
www.anti-spiegel.ru/2023/scholz-bekam-in-washington-anweisungen-zur-vertuschung-der-nord-stream-sprengung/

Posted by: Jx | Mar 23 2023 21:47 utc | 72

Posted by: natokraine | Mar 23 2023 21:43 utc | 68

The hegemony doesn't waste any time, who cares about some ratification processes. Mind you that this is the first time in history US is able to fly

"Finland's accession to NATO could be completed "in a few weeks" - NATO spy planes are already flying
According to Halturnerradioshow, two "Rivet Joint" reconnaissance aircraft flew over almost all of Finland today to collect data from Russia. These flights were very, very unusual"

https://twitter.com/spriter99880/status/1638978790096359433

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 23 2023 21:50 utc | 73

23 March
Zelensky's 80.000 army is ready to storm Wagner in Bakhmut. Military Summary (video, autotranslate enabled)
expecting UAF to push back Wagner-RFA to the Soledar direction from NW Bahkmut flank

coincidentally,
RT | Russia launches military satellite

According to a statement, a Soyuz-2.1a carrier blasted off at 9:40am local time (06:40 GMT) from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome in the northern Arkhangelsk Region, which partially lies beyond the Arctic Circle.

The rocket had “a spacecraft in the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense” aboard, the statement read. No further details were provided about the launch or the satellite itself.

Could this provide artillery target support?

Posted by: sln2002 | Mar 23 2023 21:56 utc | 74

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 23 2023 21:50 utc | 70

Mind you that this is the first time in history US is able to fly ...
Mind you that this is the first time in history US is able to fly right next to whole Kola peninsula, Murmansk and northern fleet naval base. I think it pretty much guarantees some kind of strike on Nato assets within a year or two.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 23 2023 21:57 utc | 75

Today, Military Summary said that 80,000 Ukrainian troops are DEFINITELY going to storm Bakhmut in the very near future. This is a new low for him. He's living in a fantasy world.

Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Mar 23 2023 22:00 utc | 76

One has to wonder at Russia’s inability to interdict mobile forces and equipment amassed at staging points.

Aircraft can’t be used due to stacked air defences, ballistic missiles are ineffective against columns and only offer one shot, so the only options are loitering drones.

The US has hundreds of reaper drones with 1.5 tonne payloads, 2000 kms range and loiter for 23 hours.

Russia has 2 stroke suicide drones with a minimal payload.

Russia simply can’t affect damage to Western supplied equipment in depth.

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Mar 23 2023 22:08 utc | 77

Following up on my Russian military budget article, I saw that the historical Russian budget with its 10% annual spending increases, was suddenly Grover Norquisted down 50% for 2023 according to Novaya Gazeta. From nearly 50 trillion Rubles in 2021, to 31.1 trillion in 2023. Hmm. https://aaronlee.substack.com/p/current-stated-budget-of-russian

Posted by: Aaron Lee | Mar 23 2023 22:12 utc | 78

Lengair, post #54.

Damn autocorrect spell checker.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Mar 23 2023 22:12 utc | 79

Aircraft can’t be used due to stacked air defences
Posted by: Johnycomelately | Mar 23 2023 22:08 utc | 74

So for what were the approx. 140'000 sorties the RuAF have flown in the special military operation?

Source:
https://www.firstpost.com/world/most-russian-fighter-pilots-gained-combat-experience-in-ukraine-war-claims-defence-minister-shoigu-12334982.html

Posted by: NoName | Mar 23 2023 22:17 utc | 80

Hopefully; folks can understand scientific notation.

http://www.iem-inc.com/information/tools/specific-activities

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Mar 23 2023 22:21 utc | 81

Some DU factoids

DU alloy emits approximately 60% of the alpha, beta, and gamma radiation found in natural uranium DU is a heavy metal that is 160% more dense than lead and can remain within the body for many years and slowly solubilize. The radiological toxicity of DU is lower than that of natural uranium, the chemical toxicity of DU is the same as that of natural uranium.
The uranium-235 that remains in depleted uranium emits only a small amount of low-energy gamma radiation. However, if allowed to enter the body, depleted uranium, like natural uranium, has the potential for both chemical and radiological toxicity with the two important target organs being the kidneys and the lungs.

If depleted uranium hexafluoride (depleted UF6) is released to the atmosphere, the uranium compounds and hydrogen fluoride (HF) gas that are formed by reaction with moisture in the air can be chemically toxic. In the operation Desert Storm, over 350 metric tons of DU was used, with an estimate of 3-6 million grams released in the atmosphere.

When DU shells strike a solid object, like a tank’s armour plating, they can go straight through it before erupting in a burning cloud of dust and metal fragments. The high temperature fragments created as DU passes through armour can spread to strike anything inside a tank and set fire to its fuel and ammunition.

Veterans and civilians who did not occupy DU-contaminated vehicles are unlikely to have internalized quantities of DU significantly in excess of normal internalization of natural uranium from the environment. Analysis found that the risks of DU-induced leukemia or birth defects are far too small to result in an observable increase in these health effects among exposed veterans or Iraqi civilians.

In vitro and animal tests suggest the possibility of chemically induced health effects from DU internalization, such as immune system impairment. It is a plausible working hypothesis that a significant part of the symptoms from various organs, which have been observed among veterans from Gulf War 1 and that have been grouped under the name of the Persian Gulf syndrome, may be explained as a consequence of mitochondrial DNA damage in various cell types and organs.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11259733/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17299528/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31796256/


Posted by: olaf22 | Mar 23 2023 22:31 utc | 82

heck, this schowbanned troll is really annoying, do like me avoid him

Posted by: A.cagliostro | Mar 23 2023 22:47 utc | 84

@bevan #9

And here's a song for those fighting for the Donbas. Christy More and Viva Quinta Brigada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQbXO828Vio

Thanks for reminding me - I haven't listened to this version in a while. It wouldn't be a bar without an oul song every now and then!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 23 2023 22:48 utc | 85

Posted by: NoName | Mar 23 2023 22:17 utc | 77

Hmm, that's 359 sorties per day - that's 100 sorties a day over what most people have been estimating at 200-250 per day.

Impressive if true. Way more reportedly than the US conducted daily during Iraq and the other low-level wars.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 22:51 utc | 86

One has to wonder at Russia’s inability to interdict mobile forces and equipment amassed at staging points.

Aircraft can’t be used due to stacked air defences, ballistic missiles are ineffective against columns and only offer one shot, so the only options are loitering drones.

The US has hundreds of reaper drones with 1.5 tonne payloads, 2000 kms range and loiter for 23 hours.

Russia has 2 stroke suicide drones with a minimal payload.

Russia simply can’t affect damage to Western supplied equipment in depth.

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Mar 23 2023 22:08 utc | 74

Reaper drones are just as useless as ground attack aircraft, even worse in fact -- they are slower and with fewer active defenses.

They will be cleared from the battlefield just as quickly as the Bayraktars were (which you don't hear about or see videos of at all anymore, and it has been that way since the first few weeks).

Columns being linear targets makes it hard for Iskanders, that is correct, but only up to a point. It's not one vehicle taken out per Iskander, the radius of destruction is quite a bit larger, so several Iskanders can decimate a column. Also, those columns you see now are light armor, not tanks, i.e. they are not super strongly resistant to big explosions.

Russia started using heavy glide bombs around Avdeevka, to great effect, they are within range of the columns around Bakhmut too. Why not use them?

And then you have Tornado-S with 100km+ range and a wide variety of rockets. What do we have here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_(multiple_rocket_launcher)#Rocket_projectiles

1) We have the 9М542 and 9M544 precision-guided rockets, which, unlike HIMARS, are independently targetable. So you are not shooting at the same spot. You can fire a salvo of 12 of these from one launcher, each of which will take out several vehicles. Fire a salvo from 3-4 launchers at the same time, the whole column should be destroyed.

2) We have 9M529 thermobaric munitions with larger destructive radius

3) We also have a variety of rockets that contain self-aiming submunitions. Created precisely for this purpose -- to destroy columns of armored vehicle. You launch it, it reaches above the target, releases the submunitions, then those individually descend on the armored vehicles from on top (where armor is weakest).

-- 9M532 has 20 submunitions with warheads around the same size as the Lancet (i.e. perfectly sufficient for the Humvees and MRAPs Ukies are using now)
-- 9M533 has 5 heavier submunitions for heavy armor.
-- 9M526 also 5 heavy specifically anti-tank submunitions

4) There are also anti-tank remote mining cluster warheads, such as the 9M527. Scatter the road around the column with these at night, what happens?

So the salvo of one Tornado-S launcher can in theory send enough submunitions to destroy 240 armored vehicles. Obviously, it won't be that many in practice, but even 25-30% success will make mince meat of Ukrainian columns.

Why, if there is such a column near Kramatorsk, isn't it being met with a Tornado-S salvo from Gorlovka/Alchevsk/Severodonetsk or one of the many other places well behind the front line but also well within range of it? The technical means are supposedly available.

There is still no answer.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 23 2023 22:56 utc | 87

Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Mar 23 2023 22:00 utc | 73

See the Larry Johnson article I cited above. Apparently this is a current theme. I don't doubt that it's possible, I just don't believe it will have any success.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 22:57 utc | 88

Posted by: sln2002 | Mar 23 2023 21:56 utc | 71
"Could this provide artillery target support?"

I don't doubt that it can. You don't put a military satellite up just to take pictures these days. This is probably a real-time image transmission with coordinates which will be easily integrated into the Russian battlefield ISR and targeting. Of course, even a satellite can't see everything at once without losing resolution, so it will likely only be tasked on what the Russians already suspect are concentrations of forces.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 23:01 utc | 89

@ T S | Mar 23 2023 21:26 utc | 65

Nothing used on the frontline is healthy.

Here is the link to all the info one might want or need on DU.
Also pretty good overview on who is using it and how and when.
Nobody is innocent there.

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 23 2023 23:02 utc | 90

Wall Street has started to alert its denizens that Ukraine might just be having a little trouble finding bodies for the meat grinder.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-year-into-war-ukraine-faces-challenges-mobilizing-troops-64dcdc49

Are they priming the American public for direct US involvement or are they sending the first signals that this might not end well for the Nazis?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 23 2023 23:02 utc | 91

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Mar 23 2023 21:00 utc | 57
"So why do you draw attention to the "concern troll" by continuously bellowing about him/her/it?"

How can anyone miss his fifty posts per thread? Obviously so you clowns WILL STOP RESPONDING TO HIS BULLSHIT.

Every fucking response to this asshole contributes to his continuing to disrupt the threads. Which means everyone who responds to this asshole is an asshole.

Get the fucking picture?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 23:04 utc | 92

America then would not have been attacked itself with Saudi and Israeli complicity on 9-11 which provoked served as bullshit justification for the already long planned the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

FTFY

P.S. Where does the US get its DU? That was a genuine question. You do know that there are numerous nuclear reactor powered electricity generating compounds in the USA, I assume? What do they do with the spent rods? During the Iraq invasion I read that is exactly where the military gets its DU, but I'm always open to being given correct information.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 23 2023 23:07 utc | 93

Worth watching:

Dmitry Medvedev at a meeting of the armaments commission read a telegram from Joseph Stalin from the time of the Second World War to the directors of military factories.

https://t.me/WarRealTime/7782

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 23 2023 23:09 utc | 94

@bevan #9

I like this version as well - Frank Ryan and the fight against fascism ...

Ronnie Drew Viva la Quinta Brigada Christy Moore song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWMOp9XPiVA

@all

depleted uranium "dust" is carcenogenic and DNA altering

@all again

fascists have to be fought

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 23 2023 23:13 utc | 95

^^^By "compounds" I just meant nuclear power plants, not combinations of substances. Wanted that to be clear since someone made the thread all science-y and stuff.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 23 2023 23:16 utc | 96

Which means everyone who responds to this asshole is an asshole.

Get the fucking picture?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 23:04 utc | 89

I've never responded to "this asshole". You on the otherhand...

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Mar 23 2023 23:20 utc | 97

Which means everyone who responds to this asshole is an asshole.

Get the fucking picture?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 23 2023 23:04 utc | 89

################

I forgive you for calling me an asshole. Maybe some apple juice and a nap will set your mood right. It sucks when posting with low blood sugar.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 23 2023 23:22 utc | 98

Hey Prof. Dr. Dr. General shadowbanned, why don’t you start your own substack? People who are interested in your excellence of military strategy could subscribe then…

Posted by: Zet | Mar 23 2023 23:27 utc | 99

@ LightYearsFromHome | Mar 23 2023 23:09 utc | 91

Thank you kindly. Was keen to find out what he said in his pep-talk. Cheers.

There's also this from Cyberspace News, Telegram:

He said that Russia will produce 1,500 battle tanks this year alone and boost production of other weapons to meet the army’s needs. His claims couldn’t be independently verified.

“The most important thing now is to make it all in necessary volumes, and we are launching new factories to do that,” Medvedev said.

So that's an increase from the current 800/yr T-90s to 1,500/yr apparently.

@ unimperator | Mar 23 2023 21:57 utc | 72

It's insanity. Just like the Poles the Finns are writing checks neither their military nor their nation can cash. This will not likely end well. :(

&

Cyberspace News - Telegram

Footage of the 🇺🇦"Ichkerian" (Chechen) Mansur Btn in Bakhmut ...it's been geolocated in the South part of Ivanovske

Intriguing.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 23 2023 23:32 utc | 100

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