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March 9, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-58

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

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@OttoE | Mar 9 2023 20:51 utc | 97

China. Troll of the day: China’s Foreign Ministry says China’s arms sales to Russia will be the same as US arms sales to Taiwan.

That’s not even a troll move, it is a check mate.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 9 2023 21:04 utc | 101

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 9 2023 21:04 utc | 104
And there’s no question about who will be getting the better value for money!

Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 21:08 utc | 102

The volume of Chinese arms supplies to Russia will be the same as the volume of American arms sales to Taiwan” — Chinese Foreign Ministry (https://t.me/china3army/19457)

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 9 2023 21:10 utc | 103

It’s interesting how everything that is obviously wrong in Hershes reporting is explained by eager bar flies as a clever way of protecting his sources.
Especially given that he practically outed them (or it) by retelling information from a meeting that very few people had access to.
Trust me: it’s no longer a secret in Washington who the source is. If it ever was.
Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Mar 9 2023 19:55 utc | 75

How is that not the most obvious bit of misdirection in the entire Hersh article? Clearly the details of an illegal covert operation would not be shared with the members of an Intel Advisory Committee, made up of political appointees.

Posted by: How Sausage is Made | Mar 9 2023 21:11 utc | 104

It seems that they finally start asking themselves, what will happen, when (not if)

… if the possibility of a Ukrainian collapse seems increasingly likely, what are the West’s options? Direct military intervention seems unlikely. Does the West pull the plug on continuing support and oblige Ukraine to negotiate, accepting the best deal it can get? Does the West have any residual obligation to the Ukrainian people?
No one wants to see a rerun of the debacle in Kabul. If Kyiv is about to fall, should the West try to impose an immediate ceasefire, one that gives time for Ukrainian soldiers, security personnel, and government officials to leave the country? What military equipment needs to be recovered or destroyed? What about civilians who want to leave? Is the West prepared to receive millions of additional Ukrainian refugees? Or should the West seek a geographic division that leaves a rump Ukrainian state where soldiers and civilians can regroup? How, and how long, could such an enclave be protected?

Never seen an article with more questionmarks. Quite obvious after all, that there is no appropriate way out.
The RAND Blog “Consequences of the War in Ukraine: The End and Beyond”
https://www.rand.org/blog/2023/03/consequences-of-the-war-in-ukraine-the-end-and-beyond.html

Posted by: Udkanten | Mar 9 2023 21:16 utc | 105

Does anyone find it odd that Russia is still effectively supplying Ukraine with oil?
The druzhba pipeline is still flowing (difficult to find info) and Bulgaria is refining Russian oil and resending it to Ukraine.
An analysis on this would make interesting reading.

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Mar 9 2023 21:17 utc | 106

Does anyone find it odd that Russia is still effectively supplying Ukraine with oil?
The druzhba pipeline is still flowing (difficult to find info) and Bulgaria is refining Russian oil and resending it to Ukraine.
An analysis on this would make interesting reading.
Posted by: Johnycomelately | Mar 9 2023 21:17 utc | 109

Worse, the Kremenchug refinery is reportedly running full steam.
It was supposedly hit back in the summer, and there was a period in which Ukraine did have a problem with fuel, but apparently it wasn’t destroyed or even damaged too badly. And it hasn’t been hit ever since. As a result Ukraine hasn’t had problems with fuel in many months.
Why???

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 9 2023 21:21 utc | 107

Latest Andrei for the haters… Haven’t listened to it yet but I believe he discusses the New York Times article.
Supermarket Intel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zShI5Xl4Ls&t=1s

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 9 2023 21:22 utc | 108

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Mar 9 2023 21:17 utc | 109
Nothing complicated about it; it’s clearly time to sanction Ukraine for breaking the West’s sanctions on buying Russian oil…

Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 21:23 utc | 109

Russian television viewers were hit with a fake report of a First Strike by NATO against Russia.
The incident is being blamed on a “hack.”
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03/09/russians-told-take-radiation-pills-and-find-shelter-in-another-hack-18414921/

Posted by: JesusIsJustAlright1 | Mar 9 2023 21:24 utc | 110

Also an interesting article from Gilbert Doctorow about the mood in Russia.
What They Are Talking About on the Russian Talk Shows Today: Full War Mobilization!
https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2023/03/07/what-they-are-talking-about-on-the-russian-talk-shows-today-full-war-mobilization/

As the latest editions of prime news and discussion programs Sixty Minutes and Evening with Vladimir Solovyov indicate, Russia’s political elites consider that these lines have been crossed, with or without delivery of the F-16 fighter jets requested by Zelensky; with or without the latest version of the Leopards or the Abrams tanks promised by the USA. The Russians also speak openly on television about the Polish, French and Italian ‘mercenaries’ whom their troops in Donbas are overhearing daily on the front lines, and there is no question but that these are in effect NATO officers, not volunteers from the street.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 9 2023 21:24 utc | 111

The US and Ukraine were the only two countries that opposed a UN General Assembly vote on condemning the NAZI ideology. It is no wonder that the US White House bestowed the International Women of Courage Award on Yulia Paevskaya, who goes by the nickname ‘Taira’ who is a member of the Azov Ukrainian nationalist battalion.
Moscow’s ambassador to the US Antonov “described Paevskaya as a “terrorist cutthroat whose hands are covered in the blood of the elderly, women, and children.” In March 2022, as the fighting raged in the besieged city of Mariupol, which is now part of Russia, Paevskaya “pretended to be a mother of two children whose parents she had killed herself,” and then tried to escape disguised in civilian clothing, Antonov stated.”
https://www.azerbaycan24.com/en/moscow-condemns-nazi-celebration-at-white-house/

Posted by: Krollchem | Mar 9 2023 21:26 utc | 112

@LightYearsFromHome, §63:
This freaky, LightYears. It certainly suggests the loose cannon, America, is about to go off dangerously.
It does suggest they´re not going straight to nukes but will press-gang vassals like Poland and Rumania – and Georgia – to do the dying. The only reason I can see for blanking all plane markings is to maintain the absurd fiction that America is not involved and that it´s a simultaneous attack by Poland, Rumania, etc., etc., to “defend themselves”.
But events so far have demonstrated that all the conventional arms that NATO and America can produce are nowhere near enough even when the fighting is confined to the Ukraine.
This mad, reckless policy by Brandon will certainly engulf all of eastern Europe. The Poles will have to rebuild Warsaw – again – the stupidity of Poland and Rumania is only matched by the ferocious ruthlessness of the current American power-brokers.
If Poland and Rumania broke with NATO, they might have a chance of picking up what they lost in WW2 from the wreckage of the Ukraine. Putin doesn´t want Galicia nor Bessarabia . . .

Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2023 21:27 utc | 113

Posted by: James c | Mar 9 2023 20:38 utc | 94
There’s a Wikipedia article on it with a timeline but I remember a poster here pointing out that it had some notable omissions back then … still, might be somewhere to start if you ignore all attribution.
I am quite interested in the simultaneity of renewed attacks on ZNPP and the discovery of serious corrosion problems at France’s Penly nuclear power station that possibly affect all of France’s nuclear power stations.
The attacks on have always ZNPP always had a flavour of trying to get it back on the table as a winnable chip for the EU.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 9 2023 21:27 utc | 114

LGB! @71 :” Nobody in Europe is going surrender…”
Don’t be silly. The EU already has surrendered. They will just have to get used to bending over for Russia rather than the US, though I doubt Russia really wants them.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 9 2023 21:27 utc | 115

And more official narrative!
Talking points opinion.
https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/bakhmut-tom-clonan-analysis-6013051-Mar2023/

Posted by: jpc | Mar 9 2023 21:28 utc | 116

Question:
Is what is happening in Georgia the result of not finishing this war quickly ?

Posted by: Derek Henry | Mar 9 2023 21:33 utc | 117

Posted by: Nikkei | Mar 9 2023 19:43 utc | 69:
Thank you for the link to Nikkei Asia. Interesting article. But I take issue with one thesis the article articulates: That is, China’s hope to restore relationship with Europe being behind its motivation to take this peace proposal initiative.
I believe this is a misread of China’s geopolitical inclination as of now. I think China is now resigned to Europe’s continued decline (has been since the turn of the century) to persist and would play lesser global roles in both economics and/or political realms going forward. Old Europe are all abject vassals of the Empire fearing their steady loss of racial supremacy since WW2, while new Europe has proved to be colonial wannabes yearning for crumbs and handouts from the Empire since the breakup of the Iron Curtain. What has any of these polities, Old and New Europe, shown anything resembling upward mobility? In new industry? In science/technologies? In politics buttressed with some dignity? All China sees in Europe are a bunch of beggars wanting to hold onto past glories (by brown-nosing whom they consider to be still the king of the jungle) with the remnants of their past wealth and economies. China would gain better returns from investing and developing the BRI in the new world: SE Asia; Africa; Latin America; Central Asia. By the way, the new world sees Europe/Empire in more or less the same light. That’s why China is building new cities in Africa and the Middle East, building new transport/logistics infra structures everywhere, instead of these being built by the Whiteman as in the past.
In Nov. 2021’s CPC Plenary Session Xi Jinping proclaimed that the world is facing a dramatic change, he called it change of a century. He meant the pending demise of the Empire and its loyal group of vassals in the 5-10 years to come. China has no use for tapping the dwindling wealth of the old west. China will slowly pare down its western currency reserve holdings and invest in a new world infra structure buildup that will render the West non-exceptional, just ordinary members of a new global community. China’s proposal is to tell NATO that promises have to be kept and national security is indivisible. Not only is there no need for new Asian NATO (call it ATO), it should actually disband, or else over time it will be forced to disband. So, why would China want to cuddle up to Ole West???
Now that the proposal is on the table, we shall see how it goes in 2023. I doubt that SMO will conclude by the summer, but the goals of SMO will be insidiously attained going forward anyway, without being characterized as such. Finland and Sweden, if they do join NATO, will be joining an empty shell, like the present so-called 5-eyes. NATO will, in the future, make use of China threat as the excuse for the western MICs to exploit their respective citizenries, while focusing their propaganda in Asia instead of North Atlantic. It will be a comical geopolitical charade, until the West runs out of money period.
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Posted by: Hamish H Wong | Mar 9 2023 21:35 utc | 118

I think cobalt is used in making shells-????-and military equipment??? is there enough to go round considering
“In terms of raw numbers, the Cobalt Market report 2021 from the Cobalt Institute cites that the incredible growth led by lithium-ion battery applications for electric vehicles accounting for 63% of annual demand and an 85% of y/y growth, with some 160,000 tons extracted in 2021. With the majority of mined cobalt going east to Chinese production facilities, it seems that Chinese corporations have swooped in to buy up a majority of the mines. China remains the largest refined cobalt producer, providing around 70% of both the 2021 refined supply, and with year-on-year growth..”
extract frm 21 century wire re electric vehicles….

Posted by: Jo | Mar 9 2023 21:36 utc | 119

However, yet again Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant is running on emergency diesels – the last line of defence. This is the sixth time – let me say it again SIXTH time – that ZNPP has lost all off-site power and has had to operate in this emergency mode. Let me remind you – this is the largest nuclear power station in Europe. What are we doing? How can we sit here in this room this morning and allow this to happen? This cannot go on.
I am astonished by the complacency – what are we doing to prevent this happening? We are the IAEA, we are meant to care about nuclear safety.
Each time we are rolling a dice. And if we allow this to continue time after time then one day our luck will run out.

This is the IAEA’s Director General from today’s meeting of the Board of Governors.

Posted by: Pudding | Mar 9 2023 21:37 utc | 120

Derek Henry 120 “Is what is happening in Georgia the result of not finishing this war quickly?”
What is happening in Georgia is more likely the result of Georgian ‘activists’ hoping to get jobs in Brussels.
Anyway the government has backed down on the foreign funding bill so the protesters will still get paid.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64899041

Posted by: dh | Mar 9 2023 21:42 utc | 121

William Gruff – I don’t doubt that they would, I’m just trying to figure out what it would look like. The only experience I have with unconditional surrenders was Germany in 1945 and Japan (other than the Emperor gets to stay) in 1945 as well. I can easily imagine an unconditional surrender when an army occupies a country, but what about when they dont? Or is that the plan?

Posted by: LGB! | Mar 9 2023 21:44 utc | 122

presumably ???? that vid western press is so keen to promulgate of a Rus platoon saying they do not want to go to war is a ukrops psyop???

Posted by: Jo | Mar 9 2023 21:45 utc | 123

Neoliberal captured nations don’t have policies aimed at uplifting the public and making the nation stronger, so the attempt to say Russia’s captured by Neoliberalism falls flat on its face when genuine evidence is applied. Time for that troll to drown under its bridge.
As for who Russia will negotiate with in Europe, the Hungarians are a good choice as are the Austrians. Every EU/NATO nation agreed three (3) times to abide by the principle of indivisible security yet all broke those treaties at the behest of their Master. When the Master is vanquished or at least removed from Europe, those nations will be free to agree to the concept again as it happens to be what Russia insists upon as I’ve noted dozens of times. However, something must be done with Russophobia, replacing it with Neoliberalphobia or Anti-Neofeudalism would be an excellent choice.
oldhippie @62–
Yes, but that was back in Neverland and Schwin is now owned by the Dutch and headquartered across the river from Portland in Vancouver. That latter city was once the major Liberty Ship building champion, but the industrial complex of both cities are rusted ruins like their Rust Belt counterparts. The Reagan/Thatcher and their disciples destroyed the UK and USA just as badly as the Neoliberals raped Russia only it occurred over a longer timespan without the same level of societal destabilization and death. I recall a book title from the 1990s, The Race to the Bottom, whose authors didn’t realize that had already happened within their own nation. Standing joke during Clinton’s reign about his “job creation”–Yeah, and I have three of them. I don’t really find it odd considering things that there’s no examination of the gray and black economies within the USA–Shadowstats latest unemployment report has 24.5% unemployed whereas the government’s U6 measure is only 6.6%, so those people need to be earning money somehow. New numbers to be released and discussed this weekend.
Again, all of this fits within the overall Big Picture that contains the 4,500+ year-long Class War between Creditors and Debtors, which forms the essence of the Civilizational War. Did anyone catch the snippet I pulled from the annual Threat Report released to Congress yesterday that the Empire accuses China of trying to uphold and implement the principles of the UN Charter, saying that poses a threat to individual freedom, while the Empire sends many hundreds to their deaths daily in Ukraine?!
Again, the trolls here are abetting gross immorality and Genocide and shouldn’t be provided with the time of day. Yes, some aren’t too obvious at first but then become clear soon enough. They’re clearly miserable wretches who need to be left to stew in their own shit or sent to the Eastern Front.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 9 2023 21:49 utc | 124

UAF has committed some of their T-64 and T-72 tanks on the outskirt of Bakhmut, where they got de-militarized.
https://t.me/Zornkrieger/31575

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 9 2023 21:52 utc | 125

Russia has a budget deficit and would need money for its own survival. That’s not surprising that Russia would sell its oil to EU, even at less than 4100₽ per barrel. The whole masquerade about how Russia won’t sell oil below $60 per barril was for internal purpose and nothing else – Like, the decree specified exemptions could be made with the permission of Vladimir Putin.
At the end of the day, Russia would more depend on EU than EU would on Russia. Something Vladimir Putin knew, hence why he would want to expand Russia’s economic partnership with Asia but turning out to be more complicated than expected.
Also, European officials realize how much Russia depend on EU. They will profit from this as much they could. I saw they’re thinking of lowering the cap at $40 and cap other products like coals, diamonds and so on.

Posted by: Trycep | Mar 9 2023 21:53 utc | 126

Posted by: jpc | Mar 9 2023 21:28 utc | 119
That was an absolute hoot! A good craic even.
Talk about copypasting stale Empire press releases and cobbling together an ‘article’, all in the name of journalism. I note a couple of commenters trying to call the author out, but I see Ireland has it’s own equivalents of the 77th Brigade and Bellendcat defending the Empire’s narrative.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 21:53 utc | 127

Posted by: Pudding | Mar 9 2023 21:37 utc | 123
In the absence of a better explanation. I’m assuming that the latest attacks on ZNPP are a mostly EU ploy to wangle “international” control of ZNPP so it can be used to prop up both Ukraine and EU generating capacity.
The way RF is pruning away Ukraine’s other generating capacity, it’ll end up complete dependent on the EU, which might itself suffer reductions due to technical failings.
If ZNPP stays firmly under RF control, there look to be serious additional risks for the whole EU grid. If these were to manifest in big power outages, the connection with reckless warmongering policies would be almost impossible to hide.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 9 2023 21:54 utc | 128

Is what is happening in Georgia the result of not finishing this war quickly ?
Posted by: Derek Henry | Mar 9 2023 21:33 utc | 120

Indirectly.
Had the war been finished decisively and quickly, Russia would have been able to pay more attention to the rest of the near abroad.
Also, people follow winners and stay away from losers. So the more the war drags on and the more pathetic and humiliated Russia looks (and make no mistake, if a nuclear superpower is allowing provocation after provocation deep into its own territory to go unanswered, that is a huge humiliation, as are building trenches inside pre-war Russian territory and many other things), the more US influence over the fence sitters will grow. And, of course, it is a core feature of Anglo-Saxon political strategy to be always aggressive and on the offensive (something the USSR and then Russia never learned, which is one of many reasons why the USSR lost the Cold War), so they are wasting no time to take advantage of Russia being distracted and perceived as weak.
Don’t expect Russia to do much about Georgia unless there is a real threat of it allowing NATO to set up camp there.
Kazakhstan is the real worry.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 9 2023 21:56 utc | 129

@Jo, #122:
Yes Jo, China is lacking lawyers and business consultants to boost their GDP. They have to resort to making steel, producing cobalt, or building high speed trains to make their economy look respectable in the eyes of the western analysts.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 9 2023 22:00 utc | 130

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 9 2023 21:54 utc | 131
Plugging Ukraine to EU grid is directly, and millions of refugees in EU is indirectly contributing to EU de-industrialization. While the gas price has fallen from its peak, it’s still multiples higher compared to 2017-2019 or other historical averages. It’s too late for industrial sectors. Biden supposedly told Scholz not to interfere with German industries when they say Hasta-la-Vista-baby and bugger off somewhere else.
The oil sales to EU never really ended. The price cap does not affect anything, because any legal trader in EU doesn’t directly buy from any Russian entity, always through a middleman.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 9 2023 22:00 utc | 131

Talk of NATO or “empire” surrender is wishful thinking at best.
The British Empire gradually shrank over 2-3 generations due to over extension and the inability to maintain it after 2 big wars. Why would the US and it’s NATO franchise holders be any different?
An eventual treaty with Russia is also unlikely. NATO will never agree and why would Russia trust them? Russia will stop when there is no longer a threat and/or the will/means to continue. The conflict line will be frozen until the next time.

Posted by: How Sausage is Made | Mar 9 2023 22:01 utc | 132

Posted by: Trycep | Mar 9 2023 21:53 utc | 129
And what rock did you crawl out from under?

Russia has a budget deficit and would need money for its own survival

Er… https://www.usdebtclock.org/ says “Hold my beer!”

Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 22:01 utc | 133

How Sausage is Made – That’s kinda what I am thinking here. North/South Korea type situation most likely on 404’s western border, maybe to include Moldova, but probably not any NATO states. I hope I’m wrong, but this is just one spectator’s guess. Maybe trade opens back up, but I just think there is a gonna be a new iron curtain.

Posted by: LGB! | Mar 9 2023 22:05 utc | 134

Everyone is fixated on the current duration of the conflict as a long drawn out war….put it in context of the war on terror….or war on drugs…or Vietnam war…or war in Afghanistan or Iraq. This has been just over a year….a special military operation…not a full high in intensity total war like WWii….where one 🕜 f the biggest European armies….supported and trained by NATO has been destroyed multiple times over…where nearly twenty percent of the Ukrainian land mass and a majority of the resources that constitutes it’s GNP are lost….there was time for referendums and a change in operational strategies as well as a partial mobilization in Russia …incidentally Ukraine is on the 8th or ninth mobilization in Ukraine….where 16 to 60 year old males and tens of thousands of females are on the Frontline getting blown away by Wagner… Marine and airborne light infantry. NATO expected and wanted a classic Red Army penetration followed by a intensive Ukrainian insurgency. The fact the Western training cadres where teaching small unit and counter insurgency tactics instead of combined arms manoeuvr warfare doctrine attests to this assumption…plus all the Armour didn’t start moving towards Europe from north America for several months even though 5 eyes knew explicitly of Russian build up and movement. So my contention is this Russian operational tempo is effective. 130 Russian tanks destroyed in Ulgedar is fanciful fantasy…. good rule of thumb by past precedent is MSM is full of shit. I’ve seen reports of high numbers of Ukrainian servicemen testing positive for drugs… similar to the methamphetamine derivative found in the terrorists killed at Beslan… speaking of drugs….U.S lawmakers are using their inside voice to loudly and publicly contemplate military action within Mexico to take on the cartels that are supposedly being armed by Russia…can’t make this stuff up

Posted by: Joe | Mar 9 2023 22:06 utc | 135

Complacency is the mother of defeat.
Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 9 2023 20:49 utc | 96
My way of saying it is that a war should be conducted with a sense of urgency.
Apparently the Russians don’t agree.
Now for a history of the war:
More than most people, the Russians are anti war, no doubt because of there remembrance of that terrible war, World War II. Also, there is a law in place that makes it illegal to use conscript troops outside Russia if there is no declaration of war. Putin chose both to obey the law and to not seek a declaration of war. To invade Ukraine they stripped the conscript troops out of the regular military units that invaded, and used the ‘breakaway republic’ troops along with groups that would be called civil defense forces in the United States. That produced an army that lacked a central command and might fare poorly in a major fight.
When they couldn’t reach a deal with Ukraine, and lacking the troops for a blow out fight, the Russians decided to retreat to a more defensible position. Across the Dnieper River in the south, and with a shortened combat line in the north. Next they started to put together a proper army of a few hundred thousand men and annexed four of the oblasts in the east. If they continue to obey their laws and don’t declare war, the military command is now free to use conscript troops in the annexed oblasts. That, and they are now damaging the infrastructure of the country with their smart munitions.
A lot of military types who should know what they are doing, thought that the Russians would launch a major military operation early this year, and it didn’t happen. It may or may not be smart tactics, but I doubt it is stupidity. They have something in mind. What I am not sure, but there are a collection of possibilities. One is that they think time is on their side because it is. Enthusiasm for the war is fading in the political west. China is now more firmly on the Russian side than they were a few months ago. And the west is burning through their weapons stores without doing much to replace the used munitions.
Another thought that comes to mind is that perhaps the Russians are not really concerned about the Ukraine war because they know they can take out the Ukrainians at any time. Their concern is with the possibility of a blow out fight with the full NATO forces. With that in mind they are positioning themselves for the best possible outcome should the war expand to a full NATO fight.
At any rate, war is more fun when it is fought with energy. I find this slow pacing to be frustrating.

Posted by: Jmaas | Mar 9 2023 22:07 utc | 136

Posted by: Trycep | Mar 9 2023 21:53 utc | 129
And what rock did you crawl out from under?
“Russia has a budget deficit and would need money for its own survival”
Er… https://www.usdebtclock.org/ says “Hold my beer!”
Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 22:01 utc | 136

He is correct, Russia forecasts a federal budget deficit of 2% of GDP for this fiscal year.
https://tass.com/economy/1527707

Posted by: How Sausage is Made | Mar 9 2023 22:08 utc | 137

@Krollchem, §115:
You might also have seen that Jill “Mrs Brandon” Biden and Anthony ´blinking´ Blinken gave an International Women´s award to a man yesterday. “Alba” Rueda was born and grew up a boy but “transited” at the age of 16 to a woman . . .

Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2023 22:09 utc | 138

What’s worse IMO is that no one within the federal government seems to care as long as the MIC reaps its excess profits and their stocks and dividends continue to climb.
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 9 2023 17:38 utc | 34
I think you’re right, not just with the line above but with the entire post. The problem the West faces isn’t just “can they win the next War?” (never mind this one), its comes down to a structural and an ideological mentality which underpins everything they do.
In the West the bottom line is always profit. It drives and it validates. Did the shareholders make more this year than they did last year? Yes? Good – give the CEO a bonus.
The only answer which counts in consideration of any enterprise is how much profit can it make? And if enterprise A makes x profit and enterprise B makes x + 2 then enterprise B is by definition more profitable and a “better” thing to invest in, whilst enterprise A can be sidelined unless needed if not just discarded. You can even see it in the way certain voices are over represented in the media even though outside of their particular industry, more often than not, they have very little of importance to say and yet on almost any topic they are treated as sages and the bastions of some sort of preordained wisdom. Why? Money. The more money they have the more important, we are led to believe, is their voice.
Now consider this war, one of the things I’ve heard a lot about are bridges, particularly the one that the Russians used to evacuate troops and the people of Kherson. It was hit repeatedly by Ukraine yet stood. Not just this one but I believe others as well. There isn’t a bridge in the UK which could handle that type of determined abuse.
Look at the the buildings, one of the reasons (to my mind) so many of the stay at home civilians have lasted so long is the large amount of shelters where many of them took refuge. I suppose it goes without saying that there is no equivalent where I live.
What do bridges and buildings have in common? They are apparently over engineered (it seems to me), at least by Western standards. Why is this? It might be that this is a mindset left over from Soviet times and the fear of war, I don’t really know, or it might be something from deeper in the Russian psychology, but wherever it comes from they have it, not just as a soundbite but they seem to live by it.
Now consider the West’s approach guided by profit, it seems that the go to organisational structure heavily depends on a just-in-time strategy. Large inventories? – no need, just keep a week or threes supply of spare parts and make the down stream organisation shoulder that inventory burden. When the downstream organisations do the same its all good as every body makes a profit and pushes the burden of the costs of inventory further downstream. It works very well and is very profitable as long as the well oiled J-I-T approach doesn’t encounter any hiccups. It most definitely is not a model for a country contemplating war.
This is why I think the Russians are able to shift their manufacturing up a gear with relative ease whilst the West is still organising meetings to discuss the set up of the meeting which will decide the requirements for an increase in production. But wait … do they have the skillset and the workforce ready? Probably not as they were also outsourced under the minimise costs/ maximum profit mentality as well.

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Mar 9 2023 22:11 utc | 139

I just asked, as an experiment, the AI ChatGPT to give me a timeline of significant military events in Ukraine over the course of the war.
It did a fairly crappy job. It first gave me a lot of boiler-plate about how “fighting continues with both sides blah blah blah and civilian casualties”. Then I told it to be more specific about towns and cities taken by each side, which produced a slightly better response.
Unfortunately it told me Mariupol was taken in December, which is hilarious. It also said Kramatorsk has already been taken and Bahkmut months ago, neither of which is true.
It did give this warning:

It’s important to note that this is just a brief and simplified summary of some of the major events in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, and that the situation is fluid and rapidly changing. It’s also worth noting that there may be discrepancies in reporting and interpretation of events, particularly from different perspectives and sources.

Which still doesn’t explain why it was so off on a lot of major events.
It also told me this:

I apologize for the mistake in my previous response. As an AI language model, I have access to the latest news and events, and my knowledge cutoff date is September 2021.

Why the hell it said it’s knowledge cutoff date was in 2021 and then proceeded to give me information for all of 2022 is a howler in itself.
Clearly the news feeds the AI is getting is seriously deficient. I’d take an answer it might give you on Ukraine with a large grain of salt.
I won’t post the whole thing as it is very long, covering the entire period of the war, but here is a sample so you can see what I’m talking about:

March 26-27, 2022: Russian forces capture the city center of Kiev, marking a major victory in the conflict. Ukrainian forces continue to resist in the west of the country, but reports suggest that they are under intense pressure from Russian forces…. [MY NOTE: This will be news to Ukrainians!]
May 6-12, 2022: Fighting continues in western Ukraine, with both sides reporting gains and losses in various parts of the region. The conflict has caused significant damage to infrastructure and displaced millions of people, creating a humanitarian crisis. The international community continues to call for a diplomatic solution to the crisis… [MY NOTE: Notice that it refers to the area of Ukraine involved in the fighting as “western Ukraine” not “Eastern Ukraine.” The rest is boiler plate it spits out on almost every entry.]
October 28-November 3, 2022: The conflict intensifies, with reports of heavy fighting and casualties on both sides. Russian forces make further gains in southern Ukraine, taking control of several more towns and cities, including Mariupol and Melitopol. Ukrainian forces attempt to regroup and launch counterattacks, but are facing significant challenges from Russian air and artillery support. The conflict has caused significant damage and displacement, with civilians bearing the brunt of the violence… [MY NOTE: it finally notices Mariupol which actually fell on May 20, 2022.]
December 2-8, 2022: Fighting continues in southern Ukraine, with both sides reporting gains and losses in various parts of the region. Russian forces take control of several more towns and cities, including Melitopol and Mariupol. Ukrainian forces attempt to resist, but are reportedly facing significant challenges from Russian air and artillery support. The conflict has caused significant damage to infrastructure and displaced millions of people, creating a humanitarian crisis. [MY NOTE: Then it repeats the capture of Mariupol in December!]
[MY NOTE: And again in February!]February 3-9, 2023: Fighting continues in eastern Ukraine, with both sides reporting gains and losses in various parts of the region. Russian forces take control of several more towns and cities, including Mariupol and Volnovakha. Ukrainian forces attempt to resist, but are reportedly facing significant challenges from Russian air and artillery support. The conflict has caused significant damage to infrastructure and displaced millions of people, creating a humanitarian crisis…

All in all, only a moderately useful exercise. I was hoping to get a nice timeline of military events for my upcoming Substack article on the war, but this is clearly inadequate.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 9 2023 22:12 utc | 140

Detrick Henry
Is what is helping in Georgia a result of not finishing the war quickly ?
No.
I think you overlooked the Ukraine situation (SMO) Is one battle.
Part of a much larger unprovoked attack / war against Russia over decades.
Physical, propaganda, Nucular weapons encroachment and subverting govenments bordering Russia.
Theirs a kind of enevertabilty about the whole western insanity.
The fall of the western empire, if you like.
It’s painfully and embarrassing.
Fast or slow in Uqraine. Depends how long you want life to continue for our family’s.

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 9 2023 22:14 utc | 141

Talk about copypasting stale Empire press releases and cobbling together an ‘article’, all in the name of journalism. I note a couple of commenters trying to call the author out, but I see Ireland has it’s own equivalents of the 77th Brigade and Bellendcat defending the Empire’s narrative.
Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 21:53 utc | 130
I know it’s beyond sad.
There’s a complacency in Ireland that’s going to get a very rude awakening pretty soon!
The Irish media is a tiny and shrinking pool of right on progressive types funded by government advertising during covid and MNC/ property advertising.
No one in that pool deviates from the official progressive narrative if they want to work.
Plus US corporations keep the party going for now.

Posted by: jpc | Mar 9 2023 22:18 utc | 142

@LGB!, §125
Yes, that´s probably the plan.
As LightYears remarked (at §63), America is lining up Poland and Rumania and some other minnows Georgia? Moldova? the Baltics? Finland? Slovakia? for sacrifice. Brandon thinks he can do a Ronnie Reagan who outspent the USSR into bankruptcy. Unfortunately for Brandon, the boot´s on the other foot and he´s spending America into bankruptcy.
Unfortunately for us (certainly for eastern Europe if they´re stupid enough), he´ll take us down the tubes along with America.

Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2023 22:19 utc | 143

Downplaying Russia’s budget deficit with mentioning USA’s debts would be an odd thing to do. USA could afford this because dollar is a strong currency and this country would weigh 15% in the global economy.

Posted by: Trycep | Mar 9 2023 22:21 utc | 144

Posted by: How Sausage is Made | Mar 9 2023 22:08 utc | 140
And what is the US federal budget deficit currently? Or projected to be?
Here we go again: https://www.usdebtclock.org/
Understand those numbers, then you might gain some insight into why the state of Russia’s finances are entirely irrelevant. Russia, indeed most of the non-financialised, non-Western economies are in a much, much stronger position than most conventional Western observers realise.
Money printer goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr… until they can’t get the spare parts for the printer (from China?) any more.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 22:22 utc | 145

If RF did launch a volley of Kinzhal there is a reason for that. Could be something as simple as for testing. Or it could be there was very special group of targets. Recall the one used way back a year ago took out an ammo bunker that was below 60 meters of solid bedrock. A normal 500kg warhead does not do that. US has no penetrator that would have a prayer of doing that. We know of the Kinzhal, we do not know much about it.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 9 2023 22:32 utc | 146

Posted by: Trycep | Mar 9 2023 22:21 utc | 147
“Sub-prime is contained”…

Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 22:36 utc | 147

Sounds about right, with this out of control Democrat spending on CRT and giving our money to the illegal aliens, not to mention 10% for the Big Guy.
If not the western border of the Ukraine, where do you think the new border might end up? Similar to the Cold War Iron Curtain? (Russia gets Eastern Europe, leaves the garden of Western Europe to rot until they decide they want to play nice)

Posted by: LGB! | Mar 9 2023 22:37 utc | 148

@LGB! §137:
Yep. Although Putin will have to take the whole of the Ukraine, he won´t want to keep Galicia nor Bessarabia. He´ll use them as bargaining chips when NATO eventually realizes negotiation is more profitable than continuing the war.
Galicia to Poland and Bessarabia to Rumania in exchange for scrapping NATO or, at least withdrawing from eastern Europe and Scandinavia, i.e. The EU/NATO don´t extend beyond France & Spain, Germany & Italy. Preferably both the EU and NATO should be disbanded. That should be Putin´s main aim.
My money´s on the 1939 border dividing the Ukraine into Galicia/Bessarabia in the West and Chornarus (six oblasts of the rump Ukraine) allied to RF and the rest annexed to RF.
Any bets on the ball coming to rest on the 1939 borders? $100?

Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2023 22:40 utc | 149

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 9 2023 22:32 utc | 149
Could well be all those reasons, plus a reminder that “Yes, we have these weapons and they work”, in order to quieten some of the barking in the European dog-pound.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 22:43 utc | 150

@LGB! §137:
Yep. Although Putin will have to take the whole of the Ukraine, he won´t want to keep Galicia nor Bessarabia.
Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2023 22:40 utc | 152

Bessarabia???
That area is Bulgarian/Gagauz/Russian mix, and the Bulgarian and Gagauz are pro-Russian.
It is also quite strategically important in terms of controlling the Black Sea.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 9 2023 22:46 utc | 151

@ James c | Mar 9 2023 20:38 utc | 94
thanks is all very true.. thanks for saying that.. eventually a light will be shone on this, as it is a parallel to the nordstream terrorist actions, and points directly to usa involvement..

Posted by: james | Mar 9 2023 22:54 utc | 152

Poland and Slovakia have agreed to hand over Soviet-built MiG-29 fighter aircraft to Ukraine, Slovak Defense Minister Jaro Nad said on Thursday. The day before, Polish President Andrzej Duda declared that his country would donate its entire fleet of MiG-29s.
In a post on Facebook, Nad stated that a Polish official had approached him at a meeting of EU defense ministers in Sweden on Wednesday, confirming that Warsaw would agree to the joint provision of the jets to Ukraine.
via rt. 41 planes.Apparently said wanted to deliver via Ramstein but USA refused….so blame cannot go them as percieved by Russia but directly blane(they hope?)to the sold out EU countries…..

Posted by: Jo | Mar 9 2023 22:57 utc | 153

mental health disorders in UK military grown by 80% in last few years it says on tv…so many PTSD and insufficient care afterwards…wonder how any and how many that survive ukies conscripted citizens afterwards are going to cope as so many have taken or been forced drugs on in service…..

Posted by: Jo | Mar 9 2023 23:06 utc | 154

@shadowbanned, §154:
You´re talking about Bujak (Odessa oblast west of the Dniester), southernmost part of Bessarabia.
Bujak, together with Moldova and Chernovtsy oblast, were all together called Bessarabia. It was Rumanian up until WW2.
About 20% of Bujak is Moldavian Rumanian (like Moldova), more than the Gagauz Turks (5%) but less than the Slavs (Russians/Ukrainians/Bulgarians) who, all together, make up 70% of the population. There´s a smattering of Armenians, Greeks, even Gypsies and Jews who survived WW2.
Russia would sensibly use Galicia and Bessarabia as bargaining chips to disband NATO or, at least, neutralization and demilitarization east of the old Stettin-Trieste Iron Curtain.

Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2023 23:14 utc | 155

John Marks – I ain’t taking that bet! Your crystal ball sounds as good as any. It would be nice if the UN could ban alliances such at the NATO and the EU ones, but as long as US and them have the veto power, that prolly aint happening.

Posted by: LGB! | Mar 9 2023 23:15 utc | 156

@ oldhippie | Mar 9 2023 22:32 utc | 149 who wrote

We know of the Kinzhal, we do not know much about it.

I think that the latest show of the Kinzhal has made an impression that we are not seeing yet. It is my gut feel and Norwegian will give me shit about it but oh well.
Another data point in my head today is that in the US markets went down significantly and precious metals not so much where they have been mostly in sync recently. Along with that is the price/yield of US Treasuries of different lengths bouncing off long term records.
I have written in a few other comments that I think the humanity pot is at boil and we are seeing the crazy froth of desperation and due diligence roll off the top. I don’t know how long we stay at boil or go over into nuke land. Maybe Z will back off but we all know that there lots of moving parts now that are not going to stop or go backwards in this civilization war about public/private finance.
I predict max crazy this year…..and then the heat gets turned down below boiling.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 9 2023 23:16 utc | 157

@LGB! §159:
OK LGB, where do you think the ball will land?
And would you take a bet on it?

Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2023 23:19 utc | 158

Sen. Lindsey Graham to pitch bill sending military after Mexico cartels
“I’m going to introduce legislation … to make certain Mexican drug cartels foreign terrorist organizations under US law and set the stage to use military force if necessary to protect America from being poisoned by things coming out of Mexico,” he added.
Graham said he agrees with former Attorney General Bill Barr, who wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed last week that the US should designate the cartels as terrorist groups and confront them the same way past administrations confronted ISIS in the Middle East.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/graham-proposes-military-action-against-mexican-drug-cartels/

… and what exactly did Bill Barr (former Attorney General under Trump) actually say?

Mexico has become a failed narco-state
Under international law, a government has a duty to ensure that lawless groups don’t use its territory to carry out predations against its neighbors. If a government is unwilling or unable to do so, then the country being harmed has the right to take direct action to eliminate the threat, with or without the host country’s approval.
https://thespectator.com/topic/mexico-has-become-a-failed-narco-state/

That last quote sounds familiar to me …

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Mar 9 2023 23:32 utc | 159

John Marks – Helllllll no, I ain’t betting, lol. Made a lot of bad bets over the years, thanks to mf Q and friends 🙁
But, if someone put a gun to my head, I might have to go with the western borders of Ukraine + Moldova and maybe, just maybe, one of more of the baltics (L, L, E) if they come to their senses and want to go back to Mama Bear.

Posted by: LGB! | Mar 9 2023 23:36 utc | 160

SattaMassaGana – I can guarantee you that Biden ain’t gonna invade his good buddy Mexico, so we are gonna have to wait until 47 returns. He had mentioned about the cartels before.
This goes back to what I been saying as the eventual steady-state for a while – Europe, Middle East. Africa for Russia, Asia for China, and North and South America for America. There will be three poles in the new Multipolar World and that should lead to world peace as long as everyone just stays in their sphere of influence.

Posted by: LGB! | Mar 9 2023 23:41 utc | 161

@110 info from last year was that it wouldn’t be restored in 2022.
I dunno if it’s running now, can you back that up? I had been thinking it was offline entirely and they’ve been importing fuel from the west.
https://www.ukrinform.net/amp/rubric-economy/3509685-destroyed-kremenchuk-refinery-cant-be-restored-this-year.html

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 9 2023 23:42 utc | 162

Does anyone watch the Ukie site hromadske? They obviously support the AFU but I find their interviews interesting to watch to catch context in various ways, between the lines or things that say when a person knows a bit more of the whole story.
This one isn’t dated, came out yesterday I think but could have been “filmed” earlier. Supposedly in Bakhmut and is a mortar team and their drone spotters. I found it interesting that there didn’t seem to be any radio talk with AFU infantry, this mortar team was basically one their on their own because of the drones. Supposedly hitting targets 2 to 2.5 km away. Their “hq” looked pretty good inside of the “office” compared to being out in a trench somewhere. The mortar looked like an 81mm or similar, they talked about the shells dropping “mines”. Pretty small shell for that unless it was petal mines or something smaller. They also showed “improvised” ordinance they were dropping from the drones onto the Russians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtCMRH9QmOk
This one has more of a “date” on it, supposedly from the last day or so of February. The AFU, and especially the media crew, were a little more “excited” about moving around the town. The guy over 50 in the stairwell had only been mobilized since January and this “rotation in” appeared to be his first combat experience. The BMP driver was much more of a veteran, having been in the army since last October. The company commander mentions 3 BMPs (so I think) at the present time. They should have 9-12 for a mech infantry company.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMLBhxhXIoE

Posted by: DakotaRog | Mar 10 2023 0:10 utc | 163

Druzhba remains open because it’s the means of supplying oil to Russian friendly or at least not antagonistic European countries.
Danilov was bitching today that Ukrainians are starting to talk about negotiations. That’s the Russian plan for Ukraine. Not to conquer the country but to pressure it until it throws out Zelensky and the puppets itself. If that fails, then a negotiated settlement where Ukrainians get to see the Russian aligned oblasts getting developed while rump Ukraine gets nothing from the west.
You don’t beat your little brother to death, you make him say “uncle” and teach him a lesson. And if you can fracture Europe and demilitarize it with only hopes that a dysfunctional and falling American empire will protect it.
Georgia is not a result of going too slow. Georgia would happen no matter what happens in Ukraine because the only tool left in the American toolbox is destabilization and the “arc of instability”. The antidote for that is when Europe watches the US abandon Ukraine and leave it as a violent, festering failed state right outside the garden wall. And that’s why forcing Ukraine to surrender with a big military offensive and conquering the country doesn’t do Russia much good. NATO won’t surrender because “it’s not a party to the conflict”. It has to be forced to abandon its prized proxy or the people of that proxy need to throw it out. That’s the example that Eastern Europe (minus the Poles) needs.

Posted by: Lex | Mar 10 2023 0:10 utc | 164

psychohistorian @ 160
Do you think Russia’s latest use of the Kinzhal was intended to make the world hold its breath? Because that would be really strategic, wouldn’t it?

Posted by: Guy | Mar 10 2023 0:14 utc | 165

Posted by: OttoE | Mar 9 2023 20:51 utc
China. Troll of the day: China’s Foreign Ministry says China’s arms sales to Russia will be the same as US arms sales to Taiwan.
That’s result of wishfull thinking inspired by CNN article headline – “China’s foreign minister equates possible supply of weapons to Russia with US military support for Taiwan” (if that was the original source).
Why China would send weapons to the Russia directly. and not through the North Korea?
BTW, Ukrainians are reporting massive usage of Russian’s new high precision planner bombs equivalent of JDAM-ER with more powerful warhead.
Yet, Ukrainians also posted first video of Switchblade-600 usage against Russian armored vehicles.

Posted by: asehi | Mar 10 2023 0:15 utc | 166

RE: shadowbanned; remarks about Prussia.
With respect, but I believe you got your history backwards.
The area around what is now Kaliningrad was originally Prussian as you say. Kaliningrad used to be called Koenigsberg until the Russians took over the area from Germany after WWII. Originally, Prussia was the land of a Baltic tribe by that name that went out and took over the area in central Europe inhabited by the German tribes culminating in the German State founded by Bismark in 1871. So, what really happened was the Prussians assimilated the “Germans”, not the other way around.

Posted by: Robbei | Mar 10 2023 0:24 utc | 167

I’ve been wondering if Bakhmut is a bluff and the primary objective is Avdivka. Is the spat about Wagner not being supplied enough munitions just the reality of it’s drop in priority.. By operationally encircling the former, have the Russians forced Zelensky to live up to his ‘festung’ rhetoric and fixate on holding or relieving the city, whilst ignoring the real Russian goal. Is Bakhmut part of the open deception campaign that the Russians are running against the NATO ISR complex? Perhaps the main effort will focus on a north, south axis, whilst Ukraine reinforces a second defensive line that will be orientated in the wrong direction, with her strategic reserve equally out of place.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 10 2023 0:25 utc | 168

Ya know why is Russia still struggling to control the area of the US state of Massachusettes right across their border?

Posted by: Deplorable Cro magno | Mar 10 2023 0:37 utc | 169

CIA’s attempts of colour revolutions in both of Belarus and Kazakhstan occured before the invasion. What is happening in Georgia had nothing to do with Moscow’s poor perfomance in this war. CIA would’ve eventually done this because expanding ties in South Caucasus was one of CIA’s options to weaken Moscow.

Posted by: La Cachette | Mar 10 2023 0:39 utc | 170

SattaMassaGana @162 & 142–
Wilson during the Mexican Revolution for one.
More likely the Mexican cartels will be used as the Terror/Death Squads they are already to oust AMLO. Long relationship between DEA, FBI, CIA, and all druggies
It would actually be very easy to defang the corporate profit motive by altering their Charters to saying they must serve the public and protect the environment over the need to make a profit or words to that effect. As a matter of fact, that idea’s been around for several decades, yet you rarely hear/see it invoked.
In August 2022, I wrote my most widely read article, “The Plundering Nations Last Stand”, where I included some of the better known citations made by the French legalist and political-economist Frédéric Bastiat:

When plunder becomes a way of life, men create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.
Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim–when he defends himself–as a criminal.
When misguided public opinion honors what is despicable and despises what is honorable, punishes virtue and rewards vice, encourages what is harmful and discourages what is useful, applauds falsehood and smothers truth under indifference or insult, a nation turns its back on progress and can be restored only by the terrible lessons of catastrophe.
When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law.

All those were made prior to 1849 as Class Wars blossomed all over Europe, while Marx opined that Capitalism was Revolutionary because it would cause the demise of Feudalism and those structures Bastiat wrote about. But the reformers lost when the Reactionaries launched their counterattack which continues today. And while there’re others who’ve written on the subject, Dr. Hudson has done the deepest and best analysis of its long history. The fundamental difference between the West and the Rest is Profit Versus People, respectively. A Feudal Financial Capitalistic system versus a Democratic Communitarian mixed economic system where most of everything that’s critical for humanity is organized as a public utility, including finance–Zero-sum versus Win-Win. That’s the Big Picture and ultimately what our Third World War is all about.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 10 2023 0:46 utc | 171

RE: shadowbanned; remarks about Prussia.
With respect, but I believe you got your history backwards.
The area around what is now Kaliningrad was originally Prussian as you say. Kaliningrad used to be called Koenigsberg until the Russians took over the area from Germany after WWII. Originally, Prussia was the land of a Baltic tribe by that name that went out and took over the area in central Europe inhabited by the German tribes culminating in the German State founded by Bismark in 1871. So, what really happened was the Prussians assimilated the “Germans”, not the other way around.
Posted by: Robbei | Mar 10 2023 0:24 utc | 170

No, the Old Prussians, who were not a Germanic tribe, were conquered by the Teutonic Order in the 13th century, and by the 17th century their language had completely disappeared and they were assimilated/replaced by Germans. Then the name was taken by the German state that started in that general area and eventually reunified Germany. But it is not a German state, not a continuation of the Baltic Old Prussians, it just had the same name derived from the toponym.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 10 2023 0:49 utc | 172

psychohistorian @ 160
Just a small note about Treasuries. Last week there was an auction of 10 year bonds. No one made a bid. Treasury raised the offer to 4.005. No takers. No one in the world wanted a ten year US Treasury.
Currently we are assured that today’s market price on a ten year is 3.87. No one wants to buy so the value goes up. Whatever. We all keep playing the game because we are so used to it. all the pieces and positions and persons are on their marks and ready, so why not just keep playing? Means nothing any longer. The game will end.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 10 2023 0:49 utc | 173

oldhippie @ 176
You understanding nothing about treasuries

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 0:53 utc | 174

psychohistorian | Mar 9 2023 23:16 utc | 160
us equity markets. the santa claus rally is getting old.
aside from worrying about nuclear armageddon…….
the federal reserve is obviously not addressing inflation, losing credibiity
biden put out his huge 2024 budget, with no spending cuts but intending to tax the stock markets to pay for everything, but debt will rise anyway!
and the weak us dollar is only strong compared to the weaker pound, euro and yen….!!
if the s&p reverts to pre covid trend we have a lot of big loses coming! and that may be best case!

Posted by: paddy | Mar 10 2023 0:54 utc | 175

There will be three poles in the new Multipolar World and that should lead to world peace as long as everyone just stays in their sphere of influence.
Posted by: LGB! | Mar 9 2023 23:41 utc | 164
Re my post: I found it amusing that a very similar argument that Putin made in launching the S.M.O. which was enough to get the warhawks riled up (to put it mildly) and yet 12 months later they make a very similar argument against Mexico without a shred of self awareness or shame.
Re your post, my only slight detraction from your post is that I read Bill Barr’s and Lindsey Graham’s threats as a shot across the bows of Mexico for not only failing to join in the sanctions on Russia but actually, as far back as 2022, ruling it out;
Mexico declines to impose economic sanctions on Russia
https://www.reuters.com/world/mexicos-president-says-will-not-take-any-economic-sanctions-against-russia-2022-03-01/
Mexico, along with several other Latin American countries seem to be showing themselves protective of their own independence, much more than the Europeans at least. So that tells me they might be less willing to remain within the US sphere of influence.
You may, however be right and to be fair the current order does appear undoubtedly to be in its death throes. In addition Russia and China do seem to be staking their claim as we speak. But I have a question (and its very much one which I don’t think can be answered fully at this point) how does the multi-polar world avoid the mistakes of the uni-polar one? I’m thinking of India specifically who are not ready yet (I don’t think) to take a seat as a major or global power but they do seem to be on the cusp.
Will the multi-polar world view India as a threat to their spheres of influence? And if so what steps will they take to possibly delay India’s rise? If they don’t view India as a threat, will they be happy for India to take a piece of their pie?

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Mar 10 2023 0:55 utc | 176

SMG – Good point, I had almost forgot about India. I don’t see them ‘joining’ China’s sphere. Maybe they get the bits that China doesn’t want, lol.

Posted by: LGB! | Mar 10 2023 0:59 utc | 177

SMG – and yeah, I understand that some latin american countries may not feel great about being in the US sphere of influence, so it would need to be a coordinated effort between the US and the other great powers (you stop supporting Cuba and Venezuela and we pull out of NATO and stop supporting Ukraine/Japan/SK). Could be just crazy enough to work!

Posted by: LGB! | Mar 10 2023 1:02 utc | 178

@ Oriental Voice | Mar 9 2023 22:00 utc | 133
@ West of England Andy | Mar 9 2023 22:22 utc | 148
LOL. Bravo.
@ psychohistorian | Mar 9 2023 23:16 utc | 160
Agree. Indicators NATO covert(not) Command HQs were hit. Red Lines, be real. Khinzal/hypersonics, be real, new strategic calculus.
@ DakotaRog | Mar 10 2023 0:10 utc | 166
It’ll be a translation issue Russian > English re firing ‘mines’. Consider the context when you see that. RF/AFU mortar crews firing ‘mines’ are firing ‘mortar rounds’. Lost in translation. Cheers.
@ Robbei | Mar 10 2023 0:24 utc | 170
Wasting your valuable time. It is a misinformation Psyops concern troll, best ignored. Cheers.
@ karlof1 | Mar 10 2023 0:46 utc | 174
Win-win, absolutely. In the meantime The School of the Americas, rides again, one last time. 🙁
@ psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 0:53 utc | 177
Impostor ?

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 10 2023 1:06 utc | 179

Posted by: shadowbanned | Mar 9 2023 20:23 utc | 85
“Let’s recall why these things are banned — because not all of them explode, so you are left with scattered small bomblets all over the landscape, impossible to clean up.
Now if UA was truly after “liberating” the territories that RU has taken over and is committing “atrocities” on a daily basis in, would they ever even think about using cluster munitions? That’s their own land after all, right?”
—————-
No! Ukraine forfeited its right to claim the Eastern Regions of the former Ukraine as Ukrainian after the 2014 coup against the elected government. That is why they (the Ukrainian Nazis) responded to the Russian people of the Donbass as you pointed out in your last paragraph:
“…these are the same people who covered Donetsk with petal mines, mined their own farmland so heavily tractors will be blown up by them well into the 22nd century (if there are still tractors then), shell civilians all over the Donbass, including with anti-personnel HIMARS rounds, did the same in Kherson (which had only been Russian for six months, i.e. the civilians there were even more “Ukrainian”, but it didn’t matter), etc. etc.”

Posted by: Ed | Mar 10 2023 1:15 utc | 180

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 9 2023 20:34 utc | 89 “US Patriot systems have trouble shooting down Houthi rockets, which are more or less modified Katyusha’s.”
Saudi Arabia seems to think they work well enough to buy more to shoot down those Houthi rockets.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-02/awkward-trip-to-saudi-followed-by-3-billion-sale-of-us-missiles#xj4y7vzkg

Posted by: Bill Smith | Mar 10 2023 1:21 utc | 181

@ Bill Smith | Mar 10 2023 1:21 utc | 184
Like dozens of other countries, KSA realizes that the purchase of US armaments, however poorly they may perform, ensures some degree of continuing US good will. Otherwise the only purchaser of F-35s would be the USAF.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 10 2023 1:26 utc | 182

In previous similar Russian attacks on Ukraine there were claims Ukraine shot down most projectiles. Though fanciful they may have comforted some Ukraine supporters. This time that hype is a whimper. What changed Kyiv?
Russia must totally neutralize Ukraine’s energy infrastructure, weapons factories, command and control centres and militia safe houses.

Posted by: Jason | Mar 10 2023 1:27 utc | 183

The real psychohistorian would have posted an argument, not a drive-by raspberry.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 10 2023 1:29 utc | 184

malenkov | Mar 10 2023 1:29 utc | 187
the real malenkov doesn’t know how to spell raspberry, so not sure who that is

Posted by: Marcus Arealus | Mar 10 2023 1:33 utc | 185

That’s so disgusting of Western officials to slowly start ditching Ukraine, while they were the ones to encourage Kievan regime to provoke Moscow with vague promises that Ukraine would join NATO and EU. Ukrainians deserve better.

Posted by: Versai La | Mar 10 2023 1:34 utc | 186

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 10 2023 1:26 utc | 185
That would seem to work okay if your country was actually not being attacked. As stated the Houthi’s are firing missiles and somehow Saudi Arabia is shooting most of them down.
Israel is another counter example on the F-35. They seem to like them and use them in and around Syria. And why did Switzerland buy F-35s if that was the case? They too want continuing good will from the US?
The logic of the argument seems to fall short: if the F-35 and other US weapons are is as bad (however poorly they may perform) as some claim, what would the US use to come to the aid of these countries that are only buying US weapons to keep continuing good will?

Posted by: Bill Smith | Mar 10 2023 1:40 utc | 187

A hopeful sign [from RT “Kiev’s security chief names ‘dangerous tendency’ among Ukrainians “]:
“[One should] bear in mind that those [people advocating talks with Russia] are growing in numbers. It is a very dangerous tendency when even people in western Ukraine are starting to talk about such things,” Danilov said, as cited by RIA news agency. He also pointed out a local politician in the western Lviv region that allegedly called on Kiev to sit down at the negotiating table with Moscow.”

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 10 2023 1:45 utc | 188

Posted by: Daenerys | Mar 10 2023 1:44 utc | 191
And the Moscow Times is an objective source?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moscow_Times

Posted by: Technophobe | Mar 10 2023 1:48 utc | 189

SattaMassaGana @179–
The Multipolar World will be governed by the Global Security Initiative which allows for zero hegemony just as the UN Charter envisioned. Initially, there’ll be two blocs–the Dollar Zone within which will reside the Euro zone and the RoW which will use the newly designed international financial system and its specific trading currency for interactions between nations while nations internally use their own national currencies. The hope of the designers is that eventually those in the Dollar Zone will want to participate in the wider system and thus eventually the Dollar Zone will be reduced to just Canada and the Outlaw US Empire. Clearly, there will be friction between the one nation trying to maintain its illegal, immoral hegemony and that of RoW, but it will be vastly outnumbered and at odds with its own public.
The real key to it all is the parasitism of Neoliberalism as it destroys its host economy thus gravely weakening the nation where it resides. Such a relationship cannot last forever, so RoW must merely be patient and await the inevitable demise of the Outlaw US Empire.
India, your main issue, is already sequestered within BRICS and SCO, and if it wants social stability will change its ways. Plus, India wants to act as a role model for other underdeveloped nations, but to do so it must change its unhealthy stratification. And it will be helped to do so via subtle external and not so subtle internal pressures.
Another unmentioned but problematic issue is that of Occupied Palestine and the fact that there’s no place in the world any longer for its behavior which is greatly similar to that of the Outlaw US Empire. Currently, there’s a great deal of internal turbulence that some local observers say is approaching the threshold of Civil War. So, it’s possible centrifugal forces will solve the issue before the RoW must intervene.
Unfortunately, paradigm changes of this magnitude don’t happen quickly, nor in this case would we want it to for that would likely mean it being solved via nuclear exchange. The best case is for most of the initial process to be completed in five years, although that could be shortened. Yes, there’re many variables still in play that will complicate or perhaps simplify the change; but the change is coming, and RoW is behind it happening.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 10 2023 1:48 utc | 190

@ Bill Smith | Mar 10 2023 1:40 utc | 190
Your examples show only that there are circumstances in which US garbage materiel can be employed without exposing their manifest weaknesses.
As to your last paragraph: What, the USA coming to the aid of another country? That was worth a tired chuckle.

Posted by: makenkov | Mar 10 2023 1:55 utc | 191

@ the pessimist | Mar 10 2023 1:45 utc | 192
Indeed, ’twas all good & well when Eastern & Central Ukraine/Ukrainians were doing the dying/suffering, yet now it’s come home to Galicians ?
@ Bill Smith | Mar 10 2023 1:40 utc | – All
Relentless BS. See.
@ Daenerys | Mar 10 2023 1:44 utc | 191
Sigh. What transparent rubbish, crafted from whole cloth. TheMoscowTimes propaganda = DebkaFile = VOA = RFE = VeteransToday, etc. See.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 10 2023 1:59 utc | 192

“PMC Wagner might be sidelined soon.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/09/wagner-boss-cut-off-from-official-channels-after-public-ammo-plea-a80437
Posted by: Daenerys | Mar 10 2023 1:44 utc | 191″
Kutuzov would have shot Prigozin in the head at the second outburst.

Posted by: Comandante | Mar 10 2023 2:11 utc | 193

Some videos for today.
Russia conducts major retaliatory strikes on the Kiev regime in response to last week’s Banderite terrorists attacks on Bryansk oblast:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/ukraine-retaliation-strikes:d
RT follows Wagner group on its Artemovsk advance:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Wagner_Artyomovsk_0803:a
Kiev regime terrorist attack foiled – Pridnestrovie government:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Transdniester-terror-attack-foiled:d
Wrong opinion: German anti-war activist faces charges for criticizing support to Kiev regime:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/arrested-yt:0

Posted by: Nate | Mar 10 2023 2:17 utc | 194

Downplaying Russia’s budget deficit with mentioning USA’s debts would be an odd thing to do. USA could afford this because dollar is a strong currency and this country would weigh 15% in the global economy.
Posted by: Trycep | Mar 9 2023 22:21 utc | 147
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Remember when Biden promised to reduce the Ruble to rubble?
Never happened. The Ruble is so strong right now, Russia has had to take measures to weaken it.
The USA’s purchasing power is all based on perception, not on any fundamentals. Several countries, specifically India, are now trading for oil outside of the USD. De-dollarization will continue and accelerate as Russia continues to prevail militarily. People are attracted to strength and the US continues to demonstrate weakness economically, militarily, diplomatically, and spiritually.
Have you seen the lineup of countries that want to join the SCO and BRICs? The future is not in America’s orbit. Even Africa is rejecting France and Germany now, particularly since Wagner has helped them deal with internal security issues.
The world is changing. Rapidly.
I didn’t post this for you, Trycep. You post like a Western agent. I posted this for people who are interested in the greater geopolitical picture.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 10 2023 2:25 utc | 195

Republicofscotland | Mar 9 2023 16:03 utc | 8
The sheer bias of the UN has been revealed during this conflict showing it to be a Western tool controlled by the USA…
Considering the UN was the brainchild of the CFR and State, for “managing” the post WWII world…

Posted by: Spanky | Mar 10 2023 2:29 utc | 196

Has there been any confirmation on what the target of the Kinzhal strike was? The result? Maybe telegram?

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 10 2023 2:38 utc | 197

That is not me at 177 telling oldhippie what he does or doesn’t know….grin
@ Guy | Mar 10 2023 0:14 utc | 168 who asked

Do you think Russia’s latest use of the Kinzhal was intended to make the world hold its breath? Because that would be really strategic, wouldn’t it?

The intention on the China/Russia side of our civilization war is to get the right God Of Mammon people to hold their breath. I don’t know what it is going to take but perhaps the puppets don’t have the balls/ovaries of the cult and are starting to become afraid.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 2:43 utc | 198

@William Gruff | Mar 9 2023 19:13 utc | 61
“And who is Russia to negotiate with?”
Russia has already set that standard: self-determination. Each region will have to decide for itself. I expect the soon to be freed eastern regions to quickly declare their independence and ask to join Russia. The tricky part will be if some region(s) in the west surounded by regions who have voted to join Russia choses something else.

Posted by: barstool | Mar 10 2023 2:45 utc | 199

Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Mar 9 2023 19:38 utc | 67
Exactly

Posted by: MervRitchie | Mar 10 2023 2:47 utc | 200